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Let's go and drinks a 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: legendary queen's wrapper. He's on Miami Hippop Pioneer up his 29 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: dj e FN. Together they're drinking up with some of 30 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: yet number one sorts for us New Year's e Just 32 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: time for drink champs. Trink up, motherfucking up? What the 33 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: good be hoping he is with his two PC boy 34 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: and O R. What up is d j e F 35 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: and his drink chat? Ya yallow ma up. When we 36 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: think of the West Coast, when we think of a 37 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: person who's been standing here phenomenal, you think of a 38 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: person who stood by Dr dre side. If we heard 39 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: he's still running the pharmacy right now. It's this very 40 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: moment he's transition and went into another whole direction and 41 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: he made motherfucking cars. Pam Baker. He has stood the 42 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: test of time. You see him on Fox TV. Out here, 43 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: I ain't doing what I gotta do, still out here 44 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: with the thickest Cubans, making the West Coast look good. 45 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: If you don't know what I'm talking about, we're talking 46 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: about the one the only said, you've been out here 47 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: monkey footing this game for a long goddamn time. You 48 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: got one of the most rememberable videos of all times. 49 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: What you get? Man? That was crazy. It was the 50 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: first time we seen a person like even though it 51 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: might have not been one take, it looked like one 52 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: take like that. That's how we've seen me. Like what 53 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: the yeah? That was like, I mean, there's a story 54 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: behind that video. When I was on a Loud Records 55 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: of that video that was I was gonna get to 56 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: That's a big part of it. So I was on 57 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: a love of records and at the time it was 58 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: like heavyweights on the label and and and we had 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: a West Coast office, and in the West Coast office 60 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: it was me the alcohol I think um seller dwellers, 61 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: going back and forth. But they was trying to break 62 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: it into the West, and so we were kind of 63 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: like on our own island, and you we all know 64 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: you can't go to war from my island. So I 65 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: had to be more creative with in order to impress 66 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: the New York office. You know, uh, shout out to 67 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: Matt Life's Scott Free, all those guys. Yes, So so 68 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I went to uh, I got to um, I got 69 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: to this idea of wanted to do this one shot video, 70 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: and all the directors that I kept talking to didn't 71 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: They couldn't wrap their head around it. And so I 72 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: didn't want to give up on the idea. So there's 73 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: one director that wanted to actually do it, but he 74 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: was a porn director. Yeah, and so he was crazy. 75 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: He's like, you know I could, I'm shooting all kinds 76 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: of other wild ship Why why couldn't I do that? 77 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: So we it's third it was thirteen shots. We we 78 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: did it in like two days, two days, and then 79 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: we put that thing out and then it just took off, 80 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: and I think I was like the first real impression 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: I got to the music industry. Well, everybody had to 82 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: step our video game. Yeah, the game. Just in case 83 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: you didn't know that anybody, because we had beatings about you. 84 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: This guy the water and the water come on, this 85 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: doesn't allow. But I wanted. I wanted to do like 86 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: videos like that, Like that was you know, I was 87 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: new to the industry, like paparazzi. That was my idea 88 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: to put the orchestra on the beach because I just 89 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: wanted to do other than what everybody else was doing. 90 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: I've always tried to be like that and a true 91 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: drink chaps fashion. You're a real drink chap because when 92 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: I googled you, I realized that you got married and 93 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: the rest of them the same same drink, you know, 94 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: which is great. Only I could do that. You know. 95 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: It was first of all, I love being married, and 96 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it turned into us I 97 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: love being married to by the way, absolutely And it 98 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: was a beautiful ceremony. We had, you know, all our 99 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 1: friends and family there and we everything went off without 100 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: a hitch. I got back to you know, we were 101 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: standing in the resort next to the place we got married, 102 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: and then we ended up getting in the room and 103 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: my wife was like, you forgot the box, you know, 104 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: the box where everybody dropped the gifts, you know what 105 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, right, the money, and so I feel like, 106 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: you know what, it's right around the corner. I feel good. 107 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: Let me run to go get to every ship. So 108 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I hit the corner, got the box, came back out, stopped. 109 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: You know. I was really excited about getting back and uh, 110 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: I hit a light and then lights came on. Okay, 111 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: so you so right, So you did hit it. Like 112 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: so it's not like like the police, let's not racial, Like, no, 113 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give them that I did. I did 114 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: fly fly like you know what I'm saying. And so 115 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: they lit me up. So I pulled over the thing 116 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: and I was literally, I mean like, this is the 117 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: this is where I got stopped. This was the hotel, 118 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: you know. And so so I was telling I was like, yo, 119 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, I just got married. I was just here. 120 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: It was there and this and this. My motherfucker said, 121 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, wi's your tuxedough. I was like, nick, I 122 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: just you know what fun you just you know, just 123 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: I got time for this. I was in there for 124 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: about an hour, you know what I'm saying. It didn't 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: the folks came and got me. But the next day 126 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: it was like it was you know, how do you 127 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was all over the place, 128 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: it was fucked up. Then I was mad, as you 129 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: can tell my booking photo man. But at the same time, 130 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, now it's it's it's it's a funny story. 131 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: You know. Definitely only I could pull some ship like 132 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: that crazy. So now when you described earlier, you said 133 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: loud right now again, we just had that press on 134 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: here too, And you guys were like that was like 135 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the epitome of you guys, that pig, big punt. Like, 136 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: how is it even being on a legend every label 137 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: like that? Is it competitive? Is it like like you 138 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: describe it, all the New York niggas hated us. I said, 139 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: it was two separate things, you know what I'm saying. 140 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: And it was like when we go to the office, 141 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: it was like all these niggas is here. You know 142 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because at the time, you know, Wu 143 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: Tang was a juggernaut, you know what I'm saying, Um, 144 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: it was, it was super. So it was like we 145 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: always had to prove ourselves and then when we got victory. 146 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: When you're saying we, you're saying West Coast West Coast. 147 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't the hardest or the executives or the people 148 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: in the office. It was just like you want, man, 149 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: you know what it was back in the day. I mean, 150 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: come on, you know, it's like we used to it. 151 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: You know, West Coast niggas flying to New York. The 152 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: radio DJ played the ship when they come from the airport, 153 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: then you know it's there. And then when they go home, 154 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: it's like like that. It's like that, let's keep it. 155 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: But that's what I mean, not now, not now, you 156 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because the too global, but what 157 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: hip hop was very regional at the time, you know 158 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so when we would come in, 159 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: we would always have to be proving ourselves. And so 160 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: once we started having success, especially like behind what you 161 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: see is what you get. And then when we started 162 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: doing the doctor's race stuff, it was kind of like, oh, okay, 163 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: it's accepted and it was a different field when it 164 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: came in the office. But Steve Refkin, Rich Isaacson, you know, 165 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: all these guys were like really behind what we were doing, 166 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: and so it was a struggle at first, but then 167 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: once they saw how serious it was getting, it became 168 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: something like it we became part of the family, and 169 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: what was that a goal for you? It is like 170 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: to be accepted in New York because we know absolutely, 171 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: because we know like for us it's like, you know, 172 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: we we invented hip hop or whatever, but we we 173 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: in the funny ways we look for y'all for cool signmon, 174 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: like we looked to y'all to be like and then. 175 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it did ever mean like 176 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: for y'all to be accepted. Absolutely absolutely, I remember going 177 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: and I remember we used to walk down the streets 178 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: in New York drinking forties. You know what I'm saying, 179 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: sitting on the stool, just going. I remember taking the 180 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: train when I went to by myself to go to 181 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: see Master Ace, when I first got to train, by 182 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: the way. But it sounds very dangerous, Well, I mean 183 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't I I think so because they always put 184 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: out of town man, and they don't want to put 185 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: us in the jungle. But but we can. Well you know, 186 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: I would just I would love coming to New York 187 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: and and and sitting in the studios and and and 188 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: listening to the vibes and listening to because out in 189 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: the West, you know, there's only a few cats that 190 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: are considered lyrical, you know what I'm saying, and so 191 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: yeah and so um, you know me feeling like I 192 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: wanted to be part of that. UM. I would always 193 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: seek out people that I felt lyrical as well. So 194 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: that's that's why I'm being accepted in New York was 195 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: so important. I remember going to New York and shooting 196 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: the I think you were there too, the greatest day 197 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: in hip hop that they had everybody, like everybody lined 198 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: up on the steps. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a 199 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: really big deal for me. I got a lot of 200 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: respect for the DJs, the culture, the m c s, 201 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: you know, the breakdance and graffiti, everything that came from 202 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: New York. You know what I'm saying. You know what 203 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: the crazy ship is social me. If you'd have had 204 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: social media back then, you you wouldn't realize how much 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: of New York appreciated you more. That's the problem is 206 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: you can't find these people because back then there was 207 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: no way to get in. I knew. I knew because 208 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: I walked down the street and people tell me exactly, 209 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: and then people wasn't playing the records and exactly. It 210 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: was good, but y'all thought I was from there first. 211 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there was like this legal from what you 212 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: were whole The whole crew was spitting speaking of LIX 213 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: because you gotta record with the albumhost. When you say 214 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: drinking a Henny is a gift, yeah, I could drink 215 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: a whole Hennessey filth. So I called out a problem, 216 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: but I call it a gift. We just want to 217 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: see you start that just wants alright, let me try 218 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: to see that. I'm not going a live let me 219 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: tell you alright, alright, only for you man, listen. But 220 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: when we go, would you it was a lot of alcoholic, 221 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: A lot of alcohol is And I said exactly, but 222 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: you enjoy yourself listen because I don't know if you know, 223 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: but we we celebrate people's careers over here. You got 224 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: a tip it when you do it. We celebrate people 225 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: to do over here. And for you standing the test 226 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: of time. A lot of people don't understand how hard 227 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: that is. Like you know, I respect these brothers with 228 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: these two year careers and one hit oneers and people. 229 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: I respect them to the same way because they can 230 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: feed their family. They can feed their family. But by dollar, 231 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: Dolly g I'm not respect. People have been out there 232 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: the years and they were trying to said you was 233 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: one of the first people, Like I'm gonna be honest, 234 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: you might have created love and hip hop. Now hit 235 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: me out. I know everybody like, what the funk? Hit 236 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: me out? Of anybody? You were the first rapper to 237 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: fun with reality and make it cool. Do that seed 238 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of burped every other reality show after that for calls. 239 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: I think what we did pimps because Will and um 240 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: L L did it, but they didn't script this show. 241 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: You this is non script correct, absolutely, so um I 242 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: think you were like, yeah, so described to me because 243 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: you know you exhibit y'all here the West Coast and 244 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: these these people from MTV step to you or wasn't 245 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: a production company that steps to you prior? So it 246 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: was a production company. A gentleman named Rick Herbert's came 247 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: to me so rich. Yeah, he came to me and 248 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I want to do this car 249 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: show because I was getting my cars actually done at 250 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: West Coast Customs. Whoa and so and so he and 251 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: I was just sitting around cracking jokes, making people laughing. 252 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: Ship and so he was like, you know, you'd be 253 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: a great host. I was like, fuck you, I'm not 254 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: gonna you know, there's nothing else compared. Yeah, there's nothing 255 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: compared to. So we literally we literally did the pilot 256 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: and and somebody one of the one of the camera 257 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: guys backyard. Uh, he had a friend at his We 258 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: literally put an air freshener and put some new hub 259 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: caps and watched the ship. That was like what we 260 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: did to the car. And so you know, he came 261 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: in and was like, oh, this is great. And I 262 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: was just working with them and making jokes about him 263 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: in his car and and so, uh, they took it 264 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: to MTV. They bought ten episodes, uh, and they put 265 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: us on at like eleven o'clock at night. The show 266 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: came on and then it just took off out of 267 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: the atmosphere and then we ended up being part of 268 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: Light next to the Aston Kuttrol Show, the Pump Show. 269 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: They packaged me with Punked and Bam uh and then 270 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: it became yeah, and so that's when they really like 271 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: became like this international account your money right now. It 272 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: was seven seasons of that that that when they pulled 273 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: you together with that, that's when you knew your tax 274 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: bracket got different. No, it did not. It did not, 275 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna get into that because you know, 276 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: you know it. It turned out to be, you know, 277 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: a benefit of on my side anyway, you know what 278 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you like the exposure and the way 279 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: that I became a household name was it allowed me 280 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: to go in and start doing films and start doing 281 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: my own thing outside of what that is. Now. My 282 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: Ride was the catalyst for all of the car shows 283 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: that you see now. There was no other car show. 284 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: It was like, I don't think the speech chatnel had 285 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: even existed when we first came, so um, it was. 286 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: It was a lot that was going on with that show. 287 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: It first it started, like really, what people miss about 288 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: piping My Ride is that it wasn't about me. It 289 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: wasn't about the car. It wasn't even about the kid. 290 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: That's about wish fulfillment. It was about somebody wish fulfillment, 291 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: you know, like like people at home thinking that this 292 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: could happen to me, you know what I'm saying, And 293 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: so all right, and so people you don't like Jerry 294 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: Speaker was the opposite, like this is also this can happen. 295 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: Everybody has said, you know, if you don't have a 296 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: lot of money. Everybody has a shitty car. Everybody wishes 297 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: they could make it look better. I don't have enough 298 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: to get a new one, but I like what I have. 299 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: And so, you know, once it got away from that 300 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: and turned into okay, hold this bright can and look 301 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: this way and then put the videos, you know, games 302 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: up all the thing, I was like, where it's all 303 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: these checks going, you know, and then they hand me 304 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: my little my little fee for hosting, you know what 305 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it was like, yo, man, alright, cool, 306 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: so um, let me finish my thing. Because I'm a 307 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: man of my word. Always complete what I what I started, 308 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I always fulfill my going tracks. 309 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: And so once it was done, it was done, you 310 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So um, I ended up going 311 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: and doing films and and and really like focusing on 312 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: my ship and that when I first did paid my ride, 313 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: I was kind of like nobody was talking to me, 314 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: like my peers and hip hop weren't didn't have an 315 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: opinion at the time, you know what I'm saying. Like 316 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: because because because as you said, this is something that 317 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: didn't exist before. So CATS was sitting back looking like, 318 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: what is this nag doing what I'm saying? It's just 319 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna you know, so you can't high five unless you 320 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: know you're gonna win and you know what I'm saying. 321 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: And so, um, I felt like the show was taken 322 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: away my credibility of what I've had already done, you know. 323 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: And so because people, you know, I was I was 324 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: used to having cats like us walking up to me like, 325 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: hey man, you know what I'm saying, my nigga, you 326 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But now I got soccer moms, 327 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: and I sat, K, do you hear my records and 328 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? And so and so then it 329 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: was kind of like a tough thing for me because 330 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: it would taking so much time. I wasn't able to tour, 331 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to record albums. I was you know, 332 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: I was there film and film and film and filming. 333 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: So I didn't have time to put out how how 334 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: roughly like one season, how many weeks would it take? 335 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: I We'll see, that's the thing. Um, it would be 336 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: it's usually thirteen episodes in this perpien. But then somewhere 337 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: in the contract and the fine print, it's like Oh, 338 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: we're gonna do season. I'm saying thirteen, B and C, 339 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: and like, hey, hold on you extending the season is 340 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: what I was up in my ship, you know what 341 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so it was kind of like that's 342 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: the game that the Tug Award that was happening up 343 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: until they couldn't. So, like I hear most people would 344 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: love a hip hop and they'll say, you know what, Um, 345 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: I didn't make a lot of money, but I got 346 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: the exposure and the exposure was worth it. Is that 347 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: something that you you kind of relate to. That's what 348 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: I say to make myself sleep better at night. But no, 349 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: all jokes aside. Man, you know I love what my 350 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: right I did. Dude, I can go around the fucking 351 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: world and people recognize if they don't know me from 352 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: my music, if they don't know me from my uh 353 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,239 Speaker 1: from my UM for my acting or whatever, then they 354 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: know me from that. And I'll take you the one 355 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: because as I'm matured, I figured out that that cue 356 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: raining is what's gonna dictate what you can and can't do, 357 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: because if you're putting assids in the seats, people recognize 358 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: you face recognition, then you can work in this industry, 359 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, let space some louist for that guy. So 360 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: what did it? Did it during the season of filment 361 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: of Pepper? I'm so sorry, dude. Was it ever not 362 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: being fun when like before you you knew about the 363 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: business part of you. No, I mean, even even when 364 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: the business was, was you know, not exciting? Um, I 365 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: think the only thing that because I mean people always 366 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: say you did some funked up ship to that car 367 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: and Pip my ride or whatever it was, or people 368 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, like that the wild Ship. But I didn't 369 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: do ship to the car. You know what I'm saying 370 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: that I was, I was, I was in the beginning 371 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: and at the end, you know what I'm saying. I 372 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: never fixed that right, right, But but I was the 373 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: face of the show. So so that ended up being 374 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: all of my ship, you know what I'm saying, all 375 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: of it, you know. But you know, there was this 376 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: thing that that happened that kind of you know, if 377 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: you remember, there was there was a switch of garages, 378 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, from West Coast Customs and it went over 379 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: to a different garage, you know, And there was an 380 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: instance where I bring that up because I was the 381 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: face of the show. So one of the cars wasn't 382 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: fixed correctly. And long story short, this kid was driving 383 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: this vehicle I was supposed to be like damn their 384 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: brand new and the steeringwell came off when he was 385 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, driving and ship he put it on the 386 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: break and the ship swore to the side. He was 387 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: able to get out of traffic. Right. So imagine if 388 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: that ship would have killed him. You know what I'm saying, 389 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: would be the face of that too, you know, So 390 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: be careful what you ally yourself with and what you 391 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: you know it. You know, it may be huge, it 392 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: may be great, but at the same time, you gotta 393 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: be be careful of of of who you are, what 394 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: you represent to that brand. How many other shows have 395 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: tried to came at you and uh to replicate everybody 396 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: every time and everybody you know, and then and then 397 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: and then. The thing is is everybody wants to pitch 398 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: these ideas, and everybody wants to, you know, um uh 399 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: talk about this new It's not like painting my ride, 400 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: but it's you're gonna be with the car. But but 401 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's like, wanta do we we? We had 402 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: lightning in the bottle. It was great. I'm glad we 403 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: were the first, and I'm gonna leave it there. Man, 404 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: you don't you don't go backwards. You are you ever 405 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: gonna do it reality TV again? At this point, I'm 406 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: gonna say no, Yeah, it wasn't because of the experience 407 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: was bad or because it's just no. I just enjoyed 408 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: doing scripted better. You know. I enjoyed being on the sets. 409 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: I enjoyed learning. I'm starting to enjoy directing as well. 410 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: You know. So I started doing, um, my own stuff, 411 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I started directing my own 412 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: films and my own shorts, and we were very proud 413 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: of what'll be done. Let's make some nooy of that. 414 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Because I googled that, I got two different things right there. 415 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: One set you born in Detroit, yes, and another said 416 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: he was born in New Mexico. Yes, but you're born 417 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: I know what it says on the internet, but let 418 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: me let me cli. I was born in Detroit, Michigan, 419 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: in September eighteenth, ninety four. Yeah. So, um, my mother 420 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: passed away when I was nine, and my dad got remarried. 421 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: Uh and his wife wanted to live in Albuquerque, New Mexico. 422 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: So at nine, ten years old, I moved out there 423 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: with my new family. Um, and then after I did 424 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: like I did, I did, I did seven years. It 425 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: felt like jail, but I was in said, I was 426 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: in there for seven years in Albuquerque, and then I 427 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: went to California. So there's a lot of people because 428 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: I went to high school in Albuquerque or all of 429 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: the high schools that got successfully kicked out of all 430 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: of motherfucker's. But I went to Albuquerque. Um, like all 431 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: the high schools got you know, in a bunch of trouble, 432 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of you know difficulty out there. I 433 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: was angry that my mother had died. I was, you know, 434 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was, you know, in this 435 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: forcing this new family. My dad got made married like 436 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: maybe two three months after my mom passed away. Uh 437 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: and uh. And I just was in a really tough spot. 438 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: And so when I went to California, I ended up, 439 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, going by myself. At seventeen. Absolutely I was 440 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: selling crack. So I was serving and out there and 441 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: it's a small town and you know, we was, you know, 442 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen driving around and go BMW would go Daton's 443 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: and you know, like it's like the cops knew exactly 444 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: who we were. It's only five black people there at 445 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: the time, so it was crazy. And so you know, 446 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: there were some things. You know, there was a murder 447 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: that happened. There was a whole bunch of ship in 448 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: the street, and I was like, you know, um, I 449 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: told my dad that at the time resident you know, 450 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: my dad just passed away as well, you know, so 451 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: uh I told my dad. I was like, if I 452 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: don't get out of here, then I'm gonna die. So 453 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go to California and see what 454 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: I can do with this music. Um. And at the 455 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: time I was, I was rapping, but it was kind 456 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: of like it's it's like a hobby. I would I 457 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: would go to like Ku and them and go wrapping 458 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: a little the only rapp show they had, and it 459 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: was like on the university campus. I was wrapping under 460 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: Exhibit eight. And so I left the seventeen, went to 461 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: California and ended up you know, just meeting up with 462 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: three sixty, which was a production crew James Broadway, and 463 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: then I got with King T. He introduced me to 464 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: the alcoholics and so on. The yeah, like that that's 465 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: how it was formed and and and um, so what 466 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: made you start rapping? Because I loved it. Man. You know, 467 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: my parents were very religious. They never let me listen 468 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: to hip hop. UM, so I had to get it 469 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: where I could. I used to, you know, have a 470 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: little Sony Walkman that I scavengered up, and when I 471 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: went to school, I would get tapes from my homies 472 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: and I would listen to it there. Then I started 473 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: taking it home and then they found the ship broke 474 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: the ship every time they found some ship from hip hop, tape, CDs, 475 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: anything ship, the early influences. But I bought everything. I 476 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: bought everything from DJ Magic Mike, from from Miami. Yeah, 477 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: the bass music. I listened to the Two Live Crew 478 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I listened to I listened to UM. I listened to 479 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: rock Him, Big Daddy Came, I listened to UM, just Ice, 480 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: I listened to All I Got. I remember listening to 481 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: the Tommy Boy. Um. What do you think that that? 482 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: That that first tape they came out with with the 483 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: guys breaking on the front. Oh, I remember. I mean 484 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: I listened to everything. I wasn't reaching a lo at 485 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: the time because I just loved it. But I felt 486 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: when I've got my hands on the d O C 487 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: H C D. Yeah, the DC is my favorite rapper period. 488 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, so um, you know I started listening 489 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: to like that and then when they found them, they 490 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: would just confiscate or break everything, and so I ended 491 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: up writing my own brahms, my own brahms and yeah yeah, 492 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: so you know what I'm saying, well I am um 493 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. Before all those cash, we used to 494 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: all be in this club called Unity and so we 495 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: that was where like the rappers were coming from. The 496 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: project Blow was like another style of another side that 497 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: was doing the same thing, you know, coming up, and 498 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: so there was like this real, like real live, vibrant 499 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: underground hip hop scene in Los Angeles. And so um, 500 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: once Snoop went from Death Row over to UM Masterpiece 501 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: like the No Limit, Um, you know, we had had interaction. 502 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: I was cool with Snoop UM and he called me 503 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, you know we we're working 504 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: on this album. I want you to come get down. 505 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: I think Dr dra gonna do to be Is it 506 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: cool if you call you? It's like yeah, it's not 507 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: please and so so um, as you said, it came 508 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So so then UM, a couple of minutes 509 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: later Drake called me. He telled me, you know, he 510 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: had echo sound you want to come through you know 511 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: see what you got. I think, I just I think 512 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: the phone was still in the air, and when I 513 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: was already out the door, I was already moving, and 514 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: so I ended up going to the studio. Uh. It 515 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: took me about fifteen minutes to write that, and then um, 516 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: I laid it and then I shook his hand and 517 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: I thank you for the opportunity. I didn't ask for 518 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: the who I should sit in the invoice too. I 519 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: didn't ask, you know what the publisher. And this year, 520 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: I didn't ask what the split. I didn't give fun 521 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Thank you Dr Dre. I appreciate it. Yeah, he said 522 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: it was for top Dog. Yeah for for for Snoop's album. 523 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for the opportunity. Boom. Uh. Like a week later, 524 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks later, Snoop called meies 525 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: like a nephew. You know, we're using that as a single. 526 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: But I was like, my life is about to change, 527 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: ensure enough from you know, from that that was like, 528 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, you know, as an underground cat, you know, 529 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: being on MTV, you know, and and and being pushed 530 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: across that platform at the time, it's huge. There was 531 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: no you know, online ship that could really like pump 532 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: it to where it was. It was like the video 533 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: shows and the DJs were making this work. And so 534 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: that was my first time really on that type of 535 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, top ten, top billboard, you know, all kinds 536 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: of ship. And then Dre started being you know, interested 537 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: in what I was doing, and so I never once 538 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: asked Dr Dre to pay me for anything that we 539 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: did together because I was already on Loud, I was 540 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: already on Columbia. You know, it's like they should be 541 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: paying you, you know what I'm saying. And so, um, 542 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: then that opportunity led to uh me being they being 543 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: invited to be on his record, you know, and then um, 544 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: what was this in the first one that you're working 545 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: on with him? Um that was the Chronic two thousand one. Yeah, 546 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: uh and so every yeah yeah. So so you know 547 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: he called me in to be you know, on the 548 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: on the two thousand one, and then we ended up 549 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: going on the Up and Smoke Tour and that that 550 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: was it. Man, it was like it went up another level, 551 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, and man, that was that was a very 552 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: pivotal point in my career and um, oh, how was 553 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: it just being around that just the environment, because, like 554 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: you said, you went on the tour. It was fucking crazy, man, crazy, 555 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: this is this is this is hip hop and roll. 556 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 1: This is like okay, dude. I went from looking at 557 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: these guys and reading their reading the credits on their 558 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: their projects to being in the studio and on tour 559 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: buses and behind you know, stages and you know, in 560 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: prayer circles and getting ready to go hit the stage 561 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: and you know, like these this was a real like 562 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: dream come true for me. It was crazy. It was 563 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: that the upper spoke to. Yeah, it was crazy. It 564 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: was crazy, dude. It was like the people that showed 565 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: up to that tour, um, they saw a piece of 566 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: history that I don't know it's ever gonna be repeated. 567 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: You know. To have that many stars at that at 568 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: that time on one bill and have no hiccups and 569 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: get to it all forty forty shows and and and 570 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: then get back and and really become friends and family 571 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: and then continue on. That was incredible. Man. You know, 572 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: I definitely cut my teeth on that tour. I had 573 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: been on tours before, but nothing like that. You know. Now, 574 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: one of fifties famous records. He said, spoken all that, 575 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: did you do you think fifthy was gonna be as 576 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: big as fifty years. I remember Eminem playing before a show. 577 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: He called me in the room and he played kill Me. 578 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: He played, he played fifties music, and it was like, 579 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna sign him. Yeah, California, No, he was, 580 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: I think he was. He was on the road. He was, 581 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: actually he was on up a smoke. Remember what he 582 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: played you was one of the mix tapes. I think 583 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: it was a mixtape. Yeah, it was the one where 584 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of the black and white cover and he 585 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: has the he got the hat on the bulletproof vest. Well, 586 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: he always has on the bulletproof but I think it 587 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: was like one of his first, first first joints. And 588 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: then I listened to it, I was like, oh, ship 589 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: should be crazy because you can hear it in the 590 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: music and now um at the music. I was amazed. 591 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: But to see what he's done with not only his 592 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: TV prey is uh and his production and it's just business. 593 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: His his business and branding is and his trolling is 594 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: right up there. That's part of the marketing services. But 595 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that fifty is as big as he is. 596 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Are you in the studio 597 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: when he quoted that, he just he just shot me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 598 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: I think. I think Tracy, Tracy over at the Shady 599 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: Camp actually is the first one that told me and 600 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: he did it and I was like what and then 601 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: you know, it's like they called me to the video 602 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: and history. Let's make a look. Is this is this 603 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: a type of ball time? I think it's this is 604 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: this is a part of the show. It's a little weird, 605 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: it's a little a great because we gotta listen. We 606 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: celebrate your life, appreciate, thank you. Let me just tell 607 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: you something. This is what I hate in the game. 608 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: So many people want to celebrate you. If you're gone, 609 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, let's not go on what or something happened 610 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: to you. People say how Greek this guy he is? 611 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: And why I can't say that to you right now? 612 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely wise. And let's what I say our culture. And 613 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: when I say our culture, I don't want it to 614 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: be racial because it's not just black. And you know, 615 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about our culture period, like m she searched 616 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: he's white and we should be praising him he's got 617 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: what we should be great, and I want to keep 618 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: continuing to do that. Like I want our culture meeting 619 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: hip hop. Let's let's let's pig each other up. For 620 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: for instance, it's it's we've been through all of that. 621 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: You know, heard this guy, heard this ship, We've done 622 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: that already that let's go forward. Yeah, let's move forward. 623 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: And I I, for one, I've seen I've seen your career. 624 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: I've seen what was the album dropping ninety eight? Uh, 625 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: there was at the Speed of Life in the forty 626 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: days forty nights, and you know I dropped in like that. 627 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: So I understand, you know, you know I see and 628 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: and and it should be celebrated. You know what I'm saying, 629 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Like hip hop were superheroes about. You know, I'm saying 630 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: some of us don't wear a cake, some of us 631 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: do that. Not a kid, yea, heroes don't wear a cap. 632 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What the fund is this? Yea? 633 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Looking to the What the fucking I see you're trying 634 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: to slide this it on me? Right? Any of those 635 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: it's called tag it's a drink Champions edition. Alright, sal 636 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: ain't that bad? I think he's gonna say that it's 637 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: the list, right. So on the Upper Sloop Tour, that's 638 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: a certain part where you just take a bottle. You 639 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: used to do for real, man, I used to do 640 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: a lot of ships that you said, you that probably 641 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: part of you say. I used to do a lot 642 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: of ship that you know, it's not you know, good 643 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: for me, And so I had to h really evaluate 644 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: what was happening and kind of like, you know, I 645 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: don't know if it's called getting old and maturing or 646 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, but I look at 647 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: other people and I don't have to learn, you know, 648 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: by doing the same thing. I can look at somebody 649 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: and know like, oh I don't want to do that 650 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or man, that didn't paying out the 651 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: way they thought it was, and take that and use 652 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: it in my my my navigation. So you know, I 653 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: feel good about, you know, what I've done. I mean, 654 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: have no regrets what I've done in hip hop. But 655 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't do none of that ship like I used to. 656 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm running. I'm running, I'm running businesses, family, 657 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: you know, I have things that are that are very 658 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: very important to me, and so I know what that 659 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: feels like, I know what it feels like to have 660 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: unlimited alcohol. I know what it feels like to be 661 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: able to roll pounds of weed all day every day. 662 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: I know what that feels like. But I've never had 663 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: a billion dollars, you know what I'm saying. I've never 664 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: had hundreds of millions of dollars um. Not that, not 665 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: that even material is the is the goal. It's like, 666 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: how hard can I push my success? How hard can 667 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I get to where I want to go so I 668 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: can turn around to help the people I want to 669 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: help instead of seeing everybody get help, you know, and 670 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: and and and pull their other homeboys out and be 671 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: able to laugh at the cats that that ain't in 672 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 1: their click. I want to take care of my people 673 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: the same way, you know. So that's what that's what 674 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: motivates me to become more and to not listen to 675 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: the people that have negative ships to say. But have 676 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: you know that I take care of people that that 677 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: that want to be in my circle, you know, And 678 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: that's easier than dealing with people that ain't and ever 679 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna be convinced, you know? Now? You know what I 680 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: always say, I say old when you celebrate it and 681 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: not tolerate. Yeah exactly. Hell yeah, this is where people 682 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: want wanted you to be there. Like a lot of us, 683 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: we be we want to be accepted in places we 684 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't even care. Yeah yeah, I don't care, because it 685 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: may be it may be some light over there that 686 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: you think somebody else is getting in. You admire the 687 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: sparkly ship or whatever. But oh man, the people that 688 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: I've expected to be in my corner and be part 689 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: of my success never were. It was the people that 690 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, we're sitting there with me when it wasn't glamorous, 691 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: and then you can see the excitement when something happened 692 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: for me, even if it wasn't that big, if if 693 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: it was just something like they was genuine. You know 694 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that. So that's where I'm at with it. Man. 695 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: I I used to want to be I want to 696 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: be accepted. I want to be fitting. I want to 697 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: I want to be around these guys. I want to 698 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: be in this circle. I don't give a funk about 699 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: that ship. You know what I'm saying, because it means 700 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: nothing because even when you get there, you find out 701 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: that the niggas don't like each other either. Know, it's 702 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: like the side. I thought you guys were teamed, but 703 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: they don't work like that, you know, and so you 704 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: better off making the people. That's what you now, the people, 705 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: that's what you then, you know? Do you just wait? 706 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: Hold on? Sorry? Do you still wrote with the producer 707 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: that did Paparazzi DJ at one point? No? They they 708 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: I did the track for proper Rozzi. He's l a producer. UM, 709 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: I see him, but we haven't done any music together. 710 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time you came to Miami, 711 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: or at least the first time? I thinking listen, he remembers. 712 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember the first time, probably going through a lot, 713 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: but what happened here? He can't he can't to win with. Actually, 714 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: before when it was popping, it was the hood it 715 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: was hood Stock. Paparazzi was out just release. Yes, and 716 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 1: we saw you, my crew saw you, and we recognize 717 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: you and you were just hyped to be recognized because 718 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: you just had a vinyl single years out like that. 719 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: And then you said I need to be in Winwood 720 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: at this spot called hood Stock. We were in the beach. 721 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: It was how can I be down? Yes? Uh? And 722 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: you told me to do that was with you was 723 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: either DJ or the producer of Paparazzi, and I said, yeah, 724 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: I'll take you, Okay, I don't know, let's go at 725 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: my pathfinder and you didn't want. We didn't have room 726 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: because I had my crew be path find my thing too. 727 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: And then so this boy wouldn't sit in the back 728 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: of the trunk because we wasn't my crew. We you know, 729 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: we in our seats already. But he said, I'll jump 730 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: in the luggage area, no problem. And I just remember 731 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: him with he had an Echo canteen with jin and 732 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: juice in it. And we passed up. We pulled up, 733 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: we pulled up to the hood stock. We got to 734 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: the wrong area. So it's just a fence. We just 735 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: echo to Mark Echo Yeah. And MLP was performing on 736 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: stage with Heather be And then we start climbing because 737 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: there was no way to get into it. We start 738 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: climbing a fence. I don't know none of this. I'm 739 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: that kick at this point and were locally people They're like, 740 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's crazy. Climbers and existed went on. There 741 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: was some chaos on the show. I just said, just 742 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: a crazy man. Damn the can about to bring it 743 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: up and what the fun he was wading out. I'm 744 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: telling you, man, like I'm saying man, we had a 745 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Man, we had a lot of fun 746 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: with that. We we did not let off the gas whatsoever, 747 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, and we have fun with it. Man. But 748 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, me looking back at that time 749 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: and seeing I did exactly what the funk I was 750 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: supposed to do. I was young, I was a teenager. 751 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: I was you know, I had a record out. You know, 752 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: I had come from the most shittiest ship show you 753 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: can think of, and I was having fun, man, And 754 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: I just think I'm just thankful for the experience. I've 755 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: had a thankful you know, for people that that but 756 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: understand me and and have those members can remember that 757 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: ship for me because God knows. But I'm glad. Man. 758 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we didn't have social media back then. 759 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: Like now you can turn on your cell phone and 760 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: you can record the memories that you know it's gonna 761 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: mean something other people are gonna see it. But we 762 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: have that up here. Man. It's like we got pictures 763 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 1: here and there of moments, but that that time, that energy, 764 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it feels really special to me. Special, 765 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: special now two thousand Dr Dre exactly produced album. Now 766 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: other people get a beat from Dr Dre, you might 767 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: get a purse something. I'm an athlete, not when people 768 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: get saying right right, and not not on interscope or aftermath. 769 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: If you're not on after math, you did this on loud. 770 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: How did you do you had no actually actually, actually 771 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: that question takes us back to the top of the conversation. 772 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: After we had did what you see is what you get. 773 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: Louds say go back and make another album. They didn't 774 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: want to film another video, and bitch, please hadn't come 775 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: out yet. Um, and oh no, it had come out, 776 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: and that's why I got so mad. Okay, so I 777 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: got extremely pissed, and so Steve Rifkin was, you know, saying, 778 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: you know, yeah it was good, but now imagine if 779 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: you come out with more music. I was like, you 780 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: didn't even promote the music that we just put out. So, um, 781 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: I got pissed, and I just left on tour and 782 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do an album. I just refused 783 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: to budget. And so Steve Ripkin shout out Steve Ripke, 784 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: and I love you, man, but I'm just telling the truth, 785 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, Steve you know. Uh, Steve tried to show 786 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: up to the first Up and Smoke show and was 787 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: turned away at the gate because uh they were and 788 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: they asked me, and I felt like, why should you 789 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: be able to benefit off something that you had nothing 790 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: to do with? This relationship that I built with Dr 791 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: Dre and Snoop and all these guys is on my accord. 792 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: And so then it was like, UM, you know, okay, 793 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna go. And even though it would 794 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: be so opportune for me to record an album, you 795 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know you you're not gonna 796 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: do right by it, you know, So I just went 797 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: and started working. Everybody thought it was on Aftermath. Everybody 798 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: thought I was on Interscope. Uh. And so then, um, 799 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: ray knew what I was going through, you know. Uh, 800 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: but that's about it. And so afterwards, um uh at 801 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: the end of the like halfway midway through the tour, 802 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: Dre and Um and Jimmy called Steve in and asked, Okay, 803 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: so we love exhibit, we love what's going on with 804 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: his career, and we love you know, working with him. 805 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: We know you know you you brought him to this point. 806 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: How can we get him over here with us to 807 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, be with us. And Steve said he wrote 808 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,240 Speaker 1: a number on a piece of paper that Jimmy Ivan 809 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: was like really, so it kind of combossed it and 810 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 1: I was I was I felt like Steve was trying 811 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: to fuck my ship up, you know what I'm saying. Like, 812 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, man, um, then he's like 813 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: you like my son. You know I started with you, 814 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this thing together. I was like, bro, 815 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: you don't even want to film a video where we 816 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: had the number one ship across all I hop, like, 817 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? So I was at odds 818 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: with the label and so um. Then when we finished 819 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: the tour, uh, he was like, let's go do a record, 820 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: Let's do this whatever. I was like, yeah, Steve's like 821 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: doing what. I was like, Um, I'm only gonna do 822 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: it if you take care of Dr Dre and Dr 823 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: Dre was like, you're gonna pay me this and then 824 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, you know what I'm saying. And 825 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 1: then we're gonna we're gonna get it done. You know. 826 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: But I don't want this money to come from exist, 827 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: but I wanted to come from you, said Jesus, and 828 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: that's why the record is ours. You know, Dre. Dre 829 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: has always been one hundred thousand percent with me, and 830 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: I will never say anything derogatory or negative about him. 831 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: I will always be by his side. I was always 832 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: bride with him. You know what I'm saying, that's that's 833 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,959 Speaker 1: my nigger. He's my friend. You know what I'm saying, 834 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: He's my mentor. He made. He made a lot of 835 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: things happen in my career that I never thought would happen. 836 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: So you know, and and and we still to this day. 837 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, have a report that you know, 838 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: we can sit in the room and topic just like this. 839 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm some real ship and all you involved 840 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: with the pharmacy? Is that true? Right now? We're in 841 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: a hiatus. I think everybody has other stuff to do. Um. 842 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: I think the I think the Anderson Pack program, and 843 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's definitely doing what it 844 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: has to do. Congratulations to Andy. You know he over there, 845 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: he killed it him in Noble Yeah. I love his 846 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: I love his new record. Uh and and so that's 847 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Beach One is still going strong, shout 848 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: and saying low. Uh, you know Eddie and and and 849 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: Johnny all the people over there at the pharmacy. So 850 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: right now, if they bring it back on the air, 851 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna be right there. Okay, man, So 852 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: what what what? What? What? What was it wrong? I 853 00:48:53,440 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: produced the whole shows, they said, was the executive. God. 854 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,439 Speaker 1: Now I'm so, um, let me ask you, so, let's 855 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: get let's go into California for a little bit. Because 856 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: if you're in New York, you gotta be involved with uh, 857 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be like a five center. You're 858 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a Muslim. You know what I'm saying. Nowadays, 859 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: you gotta be a blood or crypt at all started 860 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: from California gang rules, you know, um, which is crazy 861 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, hip hop, Like we gave 862 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: y'all hip hop, and y'all gave us gang culture. Now 863 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: now it's real gang cloking, Like it's actually places where 864 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: you go and you could actually tell that this is 865 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: all all blood section and this is all a crypt 866 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: section from the same thing that I used to go 867 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: to your neighborhood. You see, it wasn't there before. I'm 868 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 1: not not in New York, not in New York, not 869 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: in New York. So what what what? What? What do 870 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: you think about that? Like, what's your opinion? I think, 871 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 1: how gang good? You just explode everywhere. I think, you know, 872 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: the dynamics of game banging in Los Angeles are very complex. Um. 873 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: I came in when I was a teenager. Um, I 874 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: hang around a lot of crips. You know what I'm saying. 875 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: I have a lot of blood friends, but mostly I 876 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: hang out with a lot of crips. And um, I 877 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: see how I go outfit like you. But I don't 878 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: think you ever had a red outfit, you know, I mean, 879 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: but I mean no, no, you good? Yeah, but you 880 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: know I never, I never, you know, claimed the neighborhood. 881 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I hung out with a 882 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: lot of cats and Venice Venice Shoreline is you know, 883 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,959 Speaker 1: That's why I was hanging out. But you know, coming 884 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: from where I was coming from and being around that 885 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: because I was there was there was crips that will 886 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,479 Speaker 1: come to Albuquerque to get weight, you know what I'm saying, 887 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 1: from California because it's right there next to the border, 888 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: right and so I would be able to come to 889 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: l A and already having affiliation with people that I 890 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: met doing that, and so that's when I got to 891 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: l A. I was you know, I was embraced by 892 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: these cats and you know, they had an apartment and 893 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: then you know, I ended up you know, that's where 894 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: I met my my first son's mother, you know what 895 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so um, from there it was it 896 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,479 Speaker 1: was like I wanted to be all in. It was like, nah, 897 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: you're going to do this music ship because you're good 898 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: at it. So you can't say no way with us. 899 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: You can't run no missions with us. You can't do 900 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: all that ship and then show me what you wrote today, 901 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so that's kind of 902 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: like how I viewed it, and that's how I saw it, 903 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: and that's my my my view of where it was now. 904 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: When it started traveling, there were no bloods and crypts 905 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: in New York. When first one to New York, there 906 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: were no neighborhoods like that. There wasn't no niggas that 907 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: even knew. They thought it was silly. They usually get 908 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: mad at us, even on records, like I remember, like, 909 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, it was like a thing to work about. 910 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 1: How whack the West Coast niggas was for cursing and 911 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: gang banging and black black sheet, Black Sheet, listen to 912 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: black Sheet. What I'm saying that they had like the 913 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: skit where it's like a real like fucking gang bang 914 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 1: in his wag calling bitches and the bitches is whack. 915 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: They could have meant that about New York because remember 916 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: we had zood re lation in New York. It probably 917 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: wasn't as powerful as Bloods and crypt but it was 918 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: considered the gang we have five, so it was more 919 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: about that West Coast. Let me just just say that, No, 920 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: I understood, understood. Now, I'm not taking the skit. That's 921 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm just saying that he's talking 922 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: about that origin. He talk about the origins too bread. 923 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna shut up. No. But but but then 924 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, then when it first started, I gotta admit, man, 925 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 1: it just like you gotta be kidding me. You can't. Yeah, 926 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: you can't have bloods and cribs in New York. It's 927 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: just not supposed to happen. Ain't supposed to happen. But 928 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: then as you know, because it's not, that's like saying, 929 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, I know, I know, but befollow me. So 930 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: in that world, as that world operates, it's casts coming 931 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: from l A to New York and they're going into 932 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: the jail system and they and they and they surround 933 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: it and they and they spread the world, and the 934 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: word gets spread, and now it's neighborhoods in New York 935 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: because who's to tell this kid from brook that went 936 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: to jail and bang the ship in jail that he 937 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: can't come outside and do it even though he never 938 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: stepped foot in Los Angeles, and except that he's actually 939 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 1: claiming right like hell, at this point, it would be 940 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: a great nut crip in New York. You said great 941 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: nun like grape streets, great grape streets. You said a 942 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: great grape nut. What I mean, like a great great street. 943 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So if a person bang 944 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: Grape Street and his phone, uh Harlem, it's kind of 945 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: crazy because he's that's not where they're from. The fall 946 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes they sometimes sometimes it is because they followed 947 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: the O G set, you understand. So they'll say, so, 948 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how it works, like do to put 949 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: them on? And you know, I'm just saying, let's suppose, yeah, 950 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: the guy who put them on it's from a certain 951 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: set and that's set, it's from California. They'll they'll claim 952 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: that set and still being on. I don't know, I 953 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: don't know how the transfer program works, but your games 954 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: except accept absolutely and and why wouldn't they, but you know, 955 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: and some guys who was like, you know that, ain't 956 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,879 Speaker 1: that ain't real game banging because you know, you look 957 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: at the way the the Kachi Kid was represented, you know, 958 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,320 Speaker 1: it offended a lot of real you know that moves 959 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: back at the crib and the fact that there was 960 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: no i mean yeah, paying homage to to what it 961 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 1: really represented because it's casted you know that they really 962 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: died for that ship, you know, and yeah yeah yeah, 963 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: and so so to make a mockery of it and 964 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 1: become like it's a it's you know, it's it's it's 965 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: not tell you that. Yeah yeah, yeah, who hate on? 966 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: I ain't talking about you know, that's just the example 967 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: that you look at y G and you look at 968 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: how you don't even get kids reputable, you know what 969 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and you really bang that. So I'm never 970 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like to change it up a little bit, 971 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: but I've never seen someone wreck their selves in front 972 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,359 Speaker 1: of like the audience like that, Yeah, what do you mean? 973 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: What do you mean? But like what what what? What? 974 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: What happened with six nine? Like what happened with him? 975 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: Like it was one plenty of times everyone, you have 976 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: fifteen examples of when you do it like this, this 977 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: is exactly where it leads to, and he paid attention 978 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: to none of that, like what Joe told him, This 979 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: is exactly what No. But I think that's I think 980 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: it's different. I think we've had tragedy and hip hop before. 981 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: I think we've seen like like like like like super 982 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: super fucked up ship that's happened in hip pop. But 983 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: I think what's different about him is that we live 984 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,959 Speaker 1: in this time where everything is recorded, everything is Yeah, 985 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 1: it's like he filmed himself into the thing. And that's 986 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: the dangerous part. It's like everything ain't supposed to be, 987 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, displayed to the public, especially if you live 988 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: in in that world. And I think that we're living 989 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: in the age now where all of that is out 990 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: the window. I mean, you see somebody struggling, you know. 991 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: And the new footage, the new footage TMZ TMZ is 992 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: the worst, by the way, I like Harvey a little bit, 993 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: but the ship that he just put out. Listen, they 994 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: had some balance of six nine filming his friend filming 995 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: somebody robbing the ship, and then they had someone filming him. Yeah, 996 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: and then they just put it out and they just 997 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: and how does the FBI not say, oh, I'm gotta 998 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: use this in all investigations it Why is it no 999 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: one saying TMZ is the snitch. No one says that. 1000 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: No one says TMZ is the actual rat m. They 1001 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,959 Speaker 1: don't want to outgate. They're grabbing these funny said, they're 1002 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,919 Speaker 1: throwing these people out there. And no, no one plays 1003 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: TMZ for nothing because why there their civilians. I don't 1004 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: think you're civilian. If you're digging into game ship, you 1005 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: should be accountant, just like a game. Oh I went 1006 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: to no one, I'm saying this is keeping real. TMZ 1007 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 1: is the new fat, TIMS is a new fat people 1008 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: rather go to TMZ and get paid from TMZ. How 1009 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't name anonymous like you think you can paying for that? 1010 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: Funny to say, Oh, I mean TMZ, I'm assuming they're 1011 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: paying you. It's just bad new seals with them. Do 1012 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: they have a footage of two people shooting at the 1013 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: back of au and the cameras movement and the cameras moving. Yeah, 1014 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: it's not a stationary camera. The cameras following the ship. 1015 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: You know what's going on? I don't know, but I 1016 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: think they're just recording some wild ship and just so 1017 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: happy to beat them. You know what I'm saying. You 1018 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 1: ever thought that, well, we'll be our own paparazzi, because 1019 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: that's that's essentially what's happening right now. People, people not 1020 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: even being followed. Yeah, you're setting out your own dumb 1021 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: foot this to yourself. Yeah, and then out and they 1022 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: say they snihing you sent this ship the world so 1023 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: exactly right. No, I think that we come from an 1024 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: age where, remember, it wasn't cool to do commercials. It 1025 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: wasn't cool to be associated with a brand. It was 1026 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 1: like you were selling out, you're selling you was selling out. 1027 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: You're selling out you you know. But then we'll take 1028 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: this Saint Odds commercially and they left them back again. Yeah, 1029 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: first I think, but it was it was you know, 1030 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't cool back then. But now fast forward, you know, 1031 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: every all said, everybody talks about is being a brand. 1032 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: I want to be on some screen time and what 1033 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 1: it is, you know what I'm saying, so so so 1034 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: it's just wild to see how things change. I think 1035 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: there's a negative in the positive that comes with that. 1036 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: I think that we um have the opportunity to cut 1037 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: out the middleman and we are able to create our 1038 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: own revenue streams. But on the side, the negative side, 1039 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 1: I think that some of us aren't ready to be 1040 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: on camera yet because it brings out the worst and 1041 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: the most ugliest side of us that are sometimes portrayed, 1042 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: and then it becomes more fuel to the fire for 1043 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 1: the people that hate us. But this like like like 1044 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: want to be instant famous, everybody you want to be famous? First, 1045 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: wasn't Super had oh oh ship and he took it 1046 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: somewhere else. I'm sorry I keep music keeping. I'm just 1047 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: saying because because it's Super No, I'm just saying no, no, 1048 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't have no beef. I don't think I've ever 1049 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: met her. To tell the truth, people think that's not me. 1050 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: That was Jada kiss line, super bad, super bad, It's 1051 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 1: not my line. Thanks for clearing up. Definitely needed to 1052 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: clear her life. But but what I'm saying is she 1053 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: became famous for you know, a certainty, but people didn't 1054 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying, And then it's all 1055 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 1: these other people who But she said that before social 1056 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: media though, Yeah, but that tripled down to it. That 1057 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: actually made that's a part of it. That's what I'm 1058 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,919 Speaker 1: gonna say. It's like my dog Hecklers, He's said the line. 1059 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: He's like, there's no more fans of the music anymore 1060 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 1: because the fans themselves are starting out because of social media. 1061 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: They themselves believe the artists. They want the views and clicks, right, 1062 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: So why I ain't gonna be your fan? Now they're 1063 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,800 Speaker 1: your peer? Yeah, exactly, So everybody's star exactly. You just 1064 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 1: happened to be a little further follows yea, yeah exact. Yeah. Yeah, 1065 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Like everybody has their own goal, like like like your 1066 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: goal might be you know what, we get two hundred 1067 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: likes today, and I'm the man. You win up. You 1068 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: get two hundred likes like they ain't got You're going outside, 1069 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: you getting you know what I mean, your little over brand. 1070 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,439 Speaker 1: You're like, yo, my dude. They be like, yeah, anything good, 1071 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 1: I got my two hunds. Yeah, and now that's get 1072 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: sense of accomplishment. And now that's why the music business 1073 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 1: is taking me because no one wants to buy you. Right, 1074 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: you can buy my own. You're like, damn, everybody wants 1075 01:02:54,320 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: to be the dealer. Who is the clients? It's not music, 1076 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: it's just content. Now it's just stream trolley. There's the 1077 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: crazy ship going on, like Charlie met when we went 1078 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 1: to Philly. Charlie met some chick in the street and 1079 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: she looked at how many followers he had to see 1080 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 1: if she wanted to talk to him. Charlie, but that's 1081 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 1: all wait a minute, story again, said he's trying to 1082 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: use social media to connect, Like, yo, let's exchange whatever. 1083 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 1: What's your I G B? Because I understand now that's 1084 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: people to say what it was. There was no phone number. 1085 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: He wanted to do the face the Facebook of the Instagram. 1086 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 1: And then she looked at his father like cool, like that, 1087 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 1: whoa wut? She had more followers, asking how many followers? 1088 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 1: They asked how many followers you got? I was the 1089 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 1: first time I've seen that, but I can imagine it 1090 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I'm like about the game, man. 1091 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the new generation. Man, it's terrible. Sorry, 1092 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: So you know you haven't been you haven't been disgusted 1093 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: about the hip hop game to do him up, you know, 1094 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 1: whatever point you want to you know what I'm talking 1095 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: about the new hip hop be political about. I wouldn't 1096 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: say disgusted. Man, I just don't listen to it, you 1097 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like at the point that I am, 1098 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: when I go digging and looking through hip hop right now, 1099 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, I find myself kind of like I don't 1100 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 1: understand where they're going. I just want to be I 1101 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 1: want to be brought up to speed when they get there. 1102 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like I want to 1103 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: see the best come out of this, you know. And 1104 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: so because I love hip hop. You know, there's been 1105 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 1: the dirt ship when we were you known first coming 1106 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: out too, and so now it's kind of like there's 1107 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: so much of it. I think of the hip hop 1108 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 1: hip hop, there's there's more. Like you said, we're just 1109 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: talking about bouncing off everybody being an artist now, everybody 1110 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: with a laptop in the phone right now, I can 1111 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: put some content out. So I the ship that pops, like, 1112 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 1: I'll wait for that and then I look at it 1113 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I wonder why they like that? 1114 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, okay, well, let me see. 1115 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 1: I try to find an upside in it. And when 1116 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 1: I can't find the upside, then I just put it down. 1117 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 1: You know. I listened to a lot of satellite radio. 1118 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: I listened to I try not to stay um like stagnant. 1119 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 1: I want to be, you know, up to day to 1120 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on, like Blue Face and listen 1121 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 1: to that. And then I listened to Then I listened 1122 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: to like Jie Parrico. Then I listened to you know, 1123 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 1: like I listened to everything that's kind of like what 1124 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,919 Speaker 1: everybody is looking at. I'll peek at it and see 1125 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: if they if they there yet, you know what I'm saying. 1126 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: But then I look at you know, lyricists, and I'll 1127 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: look you know. I listened to static, you know what 1128 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's Graham, Jones and Cats, and see what 1129 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: they on. And then I, you know, because the l A. 1130 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: D J's, you know, um, you know, the big radio station, 1131 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 1: they just kind of play the static. They play that 1132 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 1: on safety. They'd be in the que club or the 1133 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 1: White Boy could yeah, yeah, because they bring back the 1134 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: Baker Boys of the radio in l A. Man, I 1135 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: can't I wish Man, I wish man. I mean it's 1136 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: it's it's different cats out there that's trying to push 1137 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 1: the culture. Man. But you know, I think, Um, I 1138 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I'm still looking for I'm a lyricist. 1139 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: I love I love that about hip hop. I love 1140 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 1: when I can see a picture or feel a vibe 1141 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: or know what somebody is at and not even be 1142 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: there because of what they're saying. You know, I like 1143 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 1: being taken on a journey, you know, so, um, if 1144 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: that don't happen, then I'm not attracted to it. You 1145 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm said. I get it. I understand, like, 1146 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's a trapp and then there's you know, 1147 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: there's people like that vibe, and then there's people that 1148 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: just like the beat and don't give a funk about 1149 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: the lyrics, all of these different aspects, and then that 1150 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: was it's wrapped song categories in the Grammys. You know 1151 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because that's the thing. So it's like 1152 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 1: I see it evolving. I'm just waiting until he gets 1153 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 1: to it is better stay God, damn, let's pretty crook 1154 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 1: it eye deserves look like because we call you crooked Eye, 1155 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,439 Speaker 1: and I know you changed. The kid crooked, can't crook it. Yeah, 1156 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: that's it. That doesn't matter to you. Now let me 1157 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 1: ask you. Now I'm looking at you. Spoken us a god, 1158 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: a guy from l A spoke us of guards always think. 1159 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: So I think on one thing and I need to 1160 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 1: ask both of guys, two kids of the West Coast. 1161 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 1: Did should make the West Coast better? L A beller All. 1162 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on how you look at it, 1163 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he definitely put on 1164 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 1: for this for the coast. You know, he was well 1165 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: established West Coast label that's going down in history. So 1166 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: if you feel like that's something, then that's positive. You 1167 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,799 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He brought a lot of bloods 1168 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 1: and crips together, you know what I mean he did. 1169 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, he did a lot of good things to 1170 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,919 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he would rebuild nurseries 1171 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 1: that burned down, or you know, every every year he 1172 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,640 Speaker 1: had a Mother's Day feast and Beverly Hills where he 1173 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: go to the hood and pick up all the mothers, 1174 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and taking the Beverly Hills 1175 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: buying something nice to eat, and you know kids that 1176 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: haven't seen their father's you know what I mean. Incarcerated, 1177 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 1: he would charter busses on Father's Day and send the 1178 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,560 Speaker 1: kids out to go see their pomps and all that. 1179 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 1: Like he did a lot of things, man. But as 1180 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 1: far as for hip hop, I just think I would 1181 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to judge somebody about how they treat me. 1182 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,719 Speaker 1: And when I was on death row, I was treated 1183 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: with treating. Will you know what I'm saying? I was 1184 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 1: treated well. So I ain't got nothing about to say. 1185 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: That's real, that's real. Um, you have you have a thought? 1186 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 1: Uh all the West Coast b where it's at right now? 1187 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 1: Like you know, we got we got game out there, 1188 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 1: we got the forty, we got you two guys never 1189 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 1: see um you thought you thought the West Coasts were 1190 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 1: maintained as as you know what I'm saying, because West 1191 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Coast is his own planet exactly. You know, it's like, 1192 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: you know a good thing about y'all you can go 1193 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,680 Speaker 1: can go just the l A. Yeah, I'm but no, No, 1194 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: it's not even about record sales. It's about the status 1195 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 1: and the respect that people have for each other. And 1196 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 1: and because you said it's game culture, I mean when 1197 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 1: you got legendary ship. You still people that that recognize 1198 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: and love Rodeo and Joe Cooley. You know what I'm saying. 1199 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 1: There's like once you hit that status, like we have 1200 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 1: concerts in l A where you see rappers that you 1201 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:30,680 Speaker 1: know maybe been on you know, like recently, and then 1202 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 1: you got casts that can come back from as far 1203 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: as twenty years ago and still have the same crowd. 1204 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,600 Speaker 1: To me, but it's like it's like people respect that 1205 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 1: and you put off for the W And that's what 1206 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 1: it's about, because the rest of the world ain't really 1207 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 1: putting on for the W. We got pockets and support. 1208 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 1: But I mean when when when and when everybody loved 1209 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 1: the West Coast? Everybody loved the West Coast, but then 1210 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: it moved and went to the south. From when it 1211 01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 1: goes back in, it moves around, you know what I'm saying. So, 1212 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,679 Speaker 1: but on the West, I mean, we always celebrate the West, 1213 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, but I expect that now do you think 1214 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 1: Joe Button's will be where he was at? If? Like, 1215 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 1: I mean, did you ever see this coming? Like because 1216 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: because didn't it wasn't you and joe y'all got cool 1217 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: because you're sparring lyrically like a little bit. I mean, 1218 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,680 Speaker 1: me and Joe, Um, we was as sparring him and 1219 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 1: Royce was sparring, you know what I'm saying. And Royce 1220 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: was sparring back and forth. You know what I'm saying. 1221 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Joe hit this kid. Nino blessed and asked him if 1222 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 1: I could turn the record around for him in like 1223 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. So you know, Nino was like, yeah, 1224 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,639 Speaker 1: you know, so he sent me the record I got 1225 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 1: on the record. The record was called Slarterhouse and that's 1226 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the how you know slarter House started. Um, you know, 1227 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: produced by my man back here. You know, you know 1228 01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I scream, you know it's partly your fault too, man, 1229 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: Snarterhouse Man, I didn't know that's real. But yeah, yeah, 1230 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: did I know that he would be where he is 1231 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 1: as far as media, Joe, Yeah, I see you. I'll 1232 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 1: teach you to all fitters. Let me tell you the 1233 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 1: way I'm gone with it. I see you do a 1234 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: blog where I don't know if it's called a blog 1235 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 1: or whatever. I just see your addressing it where you didn't. 1236 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 1: You didn't agree with his opinion of eminence, right, And 1237 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: I felt you because sometimes even if that's how you fail, 1238 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 1: shut the funk up, like like, I'm not saying you know, 1239 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like, if you're my brother, and you're 1240 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: my brother, sometimes my opinion of you, even if it's bad, 1241 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: that should be between me and ye direct to the Yeah, 1242 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 1: you're accurate. I mean, I just felt like his approach 1243 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,640 Speaker 1: was wrong. Like, you know, if you don't like something, yo, 1244 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: it's not for me. I don't like it, you know 1245 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 1: what I mean? Cool, that's the homie. You know this 1246 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,639 Speaker 1: ain't for me. But when you say something is trash, 1247 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,519 Speaker 1: you shoot on Paul Rosenberg's rollout, you do you know 1248 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 1: you're taking it a little further. And then I know 1249 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 1: the backstory. I know that there were some issues that 1250 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 1: you felt against the label. You're not giving a fair 1251 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: critique now because now you've got malice behind what you said. 1252 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,720 Speaker 1: It's personal. And then my whole thing was like listen, man, 1253 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 1: just keep it abut you know what I mean. And 1254 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,599 Speaker 1: it eventually it came out where He's like, I felt 1255 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: like I was better than them for ten years, this, 1256 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,920 Speaker 1: this and that, and they took me off this record. Eventually, 1257 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: can we address that? I mean, we could address anything. 1258 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 1: I'm on the Champs. Maybe yes, I like Joe Buttons. 1259 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 1: I like a muss person, I like a muzzle artists. 1260 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,639 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't not show up that statement. 1261 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, for he says, he didn't say that. I 1262 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,640 Speaker 1: mean every MC is supposed to feel like they be. 1263 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: So I give you that much space. What you ever saying, 1264 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying said, But I now that 1265 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 1: you said that, I think you got to back it 1266 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 1: up with more than just a statement, because because m 1267 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: came at you where you at Joe, you said you 1268 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 1: was better than for the past ten years. He gave 1269 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: you a few bars and you can't say your retirement 1270 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 1: it's just you gotta all bets are off. Yeah, you 1271 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: gotta back it up. Now. You just said this, so 1272 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 1: you know if you don't back it up, I don't 1273 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 1: think that you even believe that. You know what I'm saying. 1274 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 1: This is very where is Rory? I was here, hold 1275 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 1: on my favorite you will come back. I think it's 1276 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 1: interesting because you know I think I know is that 1277 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 1: you guys got respect for each other. I think that 1278 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 1: I think what you said it was like, yo, listen, 1279 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't have to like everything my man 1280 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 1: does at all, Right, But it's the way of my 1281 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 1: approach it. Yeah, yeah, like now and then keep in 1282 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 1: mind like I'm Sam signed the Drink Champs records, right, 1283 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 1: I got some much ship, but I'm signed to you guys. 1284 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 1: I do everything and I'm supposed to do, And you 1285 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 1: guys do everything you're supposed to do contracts with right, 1286 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 1: and things don't work out? Say things don't work out, 1287 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 1: but outside of the contract, I get jammed up on 1288 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 1: some real life ship. Right, you guys come to my 1289 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 1: aid like that in a major way. I would never 1290 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,560 Speaker 1: forget that, all right. I feel like Joe forgot that 1291 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 1: when he was saying what he was saying. You feel 1292 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 1: me like, I don't forget solid ship. That's just now 1293 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 1: how I'm cutting, Like I even remember You probably don't 1294 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 1: remember when I was young on death Rod came out, 1295 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 1: Me and Sheil came up to a session you was 1296 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: at though all the soulid Southtrack studiostreet and and you 1297 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 1: was making sure we was good. You see what I'm 1298 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 1: saying on that good left? Yeah? I remember, I never 1299 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: remember solid ship. You feel I never forget solid ship, 1300 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I would think that 1301 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 1: as long as em and Paul didn't crossing him in 1302 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: a certain kind of way. I would think he would 1303 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 1: have enough respect to just be like, yo, you know what, 1304 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna step on the gas on this one 1305 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean, I don't like it. 1306 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that I don't like it. But 1307 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: you know this is when it's just fair, like you know, 1308 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,719 Speaker 1: you can't. You just can't like every game. Let's play, 1309 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but then it's a 1310 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 1: it's a difference, you know, I get what you were saying. 1311 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: And although I don't think it hurt even any way 1312 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 1: shape for fashion, but voice in the opinion, sometimes it 1313 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,600 Speaker 1: can't be hurt. It can't be especially coming from a 1314 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 1: family member, you know what I'm saying, Like, come on, especially, 1315 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys have family strucks. I 1316 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,559 Speaker 1: don't know that if that was the case. But if 1317 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 1: that wasn't it definitely affects the smartouse. Yeah, you know, yeah, 1318 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: it definitely did, because me and Royce was behind the 1319 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 1: scenes working trying to get down out to the people, 1320 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 1: and you know, that was like a grenade, you know 1321 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that he took the pin out and 1322 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 1: tossed that bitch what happened. Uh, but I'm trying to 1323 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,720 Speaker 1: stuff I'm not, but now that was that that was real? 1324 01:17:52,840 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 1: Because um so in your opinion, right, because I uh 1325 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,720 Speaker 1: I heard he said he felt like that day like 1326 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 1: M wasn't pushing U slaughter house, like it was something 1327 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 1: that was missing missing, meaning M had just sold these 1328 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 1: millionaires a union unit units. You come into you guys project, 1329 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 1: you guys project doesn't work, and he's kind of I 1330 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,240 Speaker 1: don't want to say he blamed or but he kind 1331 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 1: of alluded that MS fast that right. Well, I mean, 1332 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 1: you know, it's like you guys were talking earlier about 1333 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: the ship and the culture in the way that technology 1334 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 1: plays a part now on social media. I believe we 1335 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 1: came in at a time on Shady where M didn't 1336 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: have to do so much ship. He was used to 1337 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:49,759 Speaker 1: having one formula to make things rock, but that formula 1338 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 1: was changing with the times. So what M did? He said, Okay, 1339 01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 1: that first round, that's on me. Y'all go back in 1340 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 1: and make another album, and I'm gonna just let y'all rock. 1341 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 1: Do whatever y'all want to do, handle it the way 1342 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 1: you want to handle it, roll it out how you 1343 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,800 Speaker 1: want to roll it out, just do you. We all 1344 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 1: agreed and went back into the lab. That's my problem 1345 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 1: with If you agreed to go back and record another 1346 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 1: album and give it another shot, why are we still 1347 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 1: talking about the second This is the second album on 1348 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,679 Speaker 1: Shad First album was E one Slarterhouse self titled second album, 1349 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Our House on Shady Records. Third album, Glasshouse, 1350 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,840 Speaker 1: that's the one that's the one that never came out. 1351 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: You guys have proved that an indie route was could 1352 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: be successful, right, correct? Correct? I mean, but we I 1353 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 1: moved to New York for like a month and a 1354 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 1: half and we did the whole glass House out there, 1355 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: just us how we wanted to do it. They gave 1356 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 1: us the ball and then you know what I'm saying, 1357 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:57,680 Speaker 1: the team broke up. M I thought it was like 1358 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 1: someone else. I'm a little what is it called? Because 1359 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was like way deeper than that. So 1360 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,560 Speaker 1: you're telling me it's it's like but the way you 1361 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 1: just simply just said that, Yeah, I mean there's some 1362 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 1: things with slaughter House, you know that we we need 1363 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 1: to talk about. But I mean, people, you're gonna have 1364 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 1: something like I'm not an hold my breath though lyrical 1365 01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 1: bars and and there was a brotherhood and well, I mean, 1366 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,240 Speaker 1: you know I thought it was. I thought it was, 1367 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 1: and then at times I said, you know what, I 1368 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,639 Speaker 1: don't think it was. But if one person isn't brotherly, 1369 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make it all full brotherly or no, no, no, no, 1370 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, It's just I'm just cut different. Like you know, 1371 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 1: I got three slaughter house tattoos, you feel me, Like 1372 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,720 Speaker 1: like when it was going down, if if anybody was 1373 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 1: in trouble, I was there with him. And you know 1374 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm just it was just a difference 1375 01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 1: to not to break up. Yeah, but just a different 1376 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Just remember how serious it was. But an incident happened 1377 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 1: in the l A. What you know, two individuals, How 1378 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 1: personal you took it. How people were saying, man, you 1379 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,560 Speaker 1: know cooking out here, wow because of believe you know, 1380 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,559 Speaker 1: someone's hands got laid on in l A. Yeah. Yeah, 1381 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,559 Speaker 1: and that was personal for you. That was that wasn't 1382 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 1: in That was very personal because I feel like, if 1383 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,799 Speaker 1: you're on my coach, you should feel comfortable to move around. 1384 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 1: And I would hope that that's the same way if 1385 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm in your city. You know what I mean. So 1386 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,160 Speaker 1: I took even though it was two city things, even 1387 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,960 Speaker 1: though because all parties, I know, you know what I'm saying. 1388 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,400 Speaker 1: So it's like, why would you do that? Because I 1389 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 1: felt like it was a spit in my face? How 1390 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,559 Speaker 1: how is that? Like, let's just say it for them? 1391 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,720 Speaker 1: Because he was talking to cold Joe was a great 1392 01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 1: on They got into some ship l A. It was 1393 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,400 Speaker 1: on of grounds. Joe kind of he kind of live 1394 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,880 Speaker 1: streamed the whole kind of thing, which was he kind 1395 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: of brought the coroller like the first because I believe, 1396 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. And then with brother brolls 1397 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:29,640 Speaker 1: out here right now, then I'm man, I love her 1398 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, I said, ray dog, 1399 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 1: you know why why on my coach? So you know, 1400 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 1: we came up there with a football team because the 1401 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 1: way Joe sounded on the phone, I said, I'd better 1402 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 1: bring the whole city. You know what I'm saying. And um, 1403 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 1: believe it or not, some of my people fell out 1404 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 1: with me over that because they wanted to ride, well, 1405 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:54,280 Speaker 1: they wanted to ride, but they fell out with me 1406 01:22:54,439 --> 01:23:00,320 Speaker 1: because they feel like Joe didn't respect them and they 1407 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 1: and they was ready to go one percent for Joe, 1408 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 1: so so they felt like he didn't respect that at all, 1409 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I fell out with 1410 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,000 Speaker 1: some of my people that I came out to Sandbox. 1411 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,960 Speaker 1: We behind that, you know what I'm saying. So it 1412 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 1: was a horri deal. But you know, luckily, I'm the 1413 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 1: type of dude that's gonna go to the ogs to 1414 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 1: Triple O GS and say, Yo, man, should I go? 1415 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 1: They like, it's your call, and I'm like, yo, man. 1416 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 1: You know, I got love for my man Ray, you 1417 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got love for people different 1418 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 1: people in the Wouchang, you know what I'm saying. So 1419 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I was able to go talk to the old g 1420 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 1: s and they was like, look, man, you might just 1421 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 1: want to lay low on this one, you know what 1422 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 1: I mean, because look how your man is acting towards us, 1423 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was just a 1424 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 1: bunch of crap. But I mean, I'm good with Ray, 1425 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm good rouchange. I speak 1426 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,080 Speaker 1: to him offering Brisoners. My wi is my guy guy, 1427 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm just happy that 1428 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 1: it all turned it something positive, you know what I mean, 1429 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Because I don't like that low vibration ship and I feel, yeah, 1430 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,040 Speaker 1: only I don't like the way I feel when I 1431 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 1: feel like we're about to have to do something, you 1432 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:14,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean? God that ye little. It's just 1433 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 1: because you know how everybody in saw the house. When 1434 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 1: I look at it, uh, I feel like you took 1435 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:27,800 Speaker 1: it most personal. Hit me out, meaning I felt like, 1436 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: you know, industry, we don't believe in the industry, got 1437 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,000 Speaker 1: the while like I just like, man, this is just 1438 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:36,760 Speaker 1: what it is. But I feel like you was like 1439 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 1: somebody like, yo, this is a brotherhood. I'm an hone 1440 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,560 Speaker 1: of that. Let's say that that they didn't know that 1441 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,800 Speaker 1: or anybody out of that. But I just feel like, 1442 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,560 Speaker 1: like me from the outside looking at I don't have 1443 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,760 Speaker 1: no inside information, you know. I'm just looking as a fan. 1444 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,000 Speaker 1: I can be a fan too, and I'm looking like 1445 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,640 Speaker 1: I knew those those certain situations you took personal. I 1446 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,960 Speaker 1: knew certain situations you you wanted to honor it, you 1447 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And um, I don't know. I 1448 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,599 Speaker 1: don't think it's over. You don't think what's up? Chris? 1449 01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:18,320 Speaker 1: It's a wrap on that. Yeah, damn world the first 1450 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:23,680 Speaker 1: a minute, but talking about cruise, being that we are 1451 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:30,440 Speaker 1: dream champs. We got to acknowledge the alcoholics Cruise alcoholics. 1452 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: Such a fan of that movement, the bird us alcoholics. 1453 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 1: But what what's what's up with there? Is it? Oh man? 1454 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 1: As far as keen t ching t is the person 1455 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:50,360 Speaker 1: that I have the most like he's he lives right 1456 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 1: around the corner. He lives right down the street from me. 1457 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,639 Speaker 1: So you know, I really, you know, feel good about 1458 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, my relationship with him. I know, you know, 1459 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 1: j ro Old Tash uh j Rose back in l A. 1460 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 1: He moved to Sweden for a while. Yea do like 1461 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 1: the hip hop sc yeah yeah, and then and then 1462 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 1: uh Tea Tash and Eastwood fur in Vegas. Yeah. But 1463 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean we when we see each other, it's all love. 1464 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,400 Speaker 1: You know. How the crew get created? Though King t 1465 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,920 Speaker 1: created every was it like collectively? Like all y'all, this 1466 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,880 Speaker 1: is what it is. This is alcoholics and this is 1467 01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 1: the crew, the Lytics. No, King t Uh Actually, um 1468 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: j Row, east Wood and Tash were a group called 1469 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 1: E s P before they were to Alcoholics, right, Um 1470 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,160 Speaker 1: Tash and Eastwood from Ohio and so when they came 1471 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,800 Speaker 1: through and J Rowe from Pomona. So they all got 1472 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,400 Speaker 1: together and King T was like, yo, y'all need to 1473 01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,920 Speaker 1: change E S E S P, which was like, um, 1474 01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:08,439 Speaker 1: something street poets and you do every day. He's just like, 1475 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, Key was like, no, no, it's you know, 1476 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:19,040 Speaker 1: it's printing the ie Lympics. No, but Keith T creating 1477 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 1: is like, Yo, you guys need to call yourself the 1478 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 1: alcoholics alcoholic. Scott signed to loud and then I think 1479 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:30,759 Speaker 1: after that I was third. Yeah, I came on second, 1480 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, from after the alcoholics, and then the far 1481 01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,960 Speaker 1: right came after me. And it's such an extension of 1482 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 1: the crew to like yeah people or whatever. Yeah, so 1483 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 1: many people. Absolutely, it was it was. It was. It 1484 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 1: was a family. We all was used to run together. 1485 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,360 Speaker 1: And it was at the first full tank of the 1486 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:52,760 Speaker 1: West coast of the West Coast. Yeah, um, because the 1487 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:57,000 Speaker 1: West Coast have another rain, like like you said for like, 1488 01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have errors from well, how do 1489 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:06,439 Speaker 1: you say it's not raining right TV? Right now, I'm 1490 01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 1: not that I'm saying a new one, like a brand 1491 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 1: new one like you're trying to talk about like the 1492 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,320 Speaker 1: like the like what we call like the golden days. 1493 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 1: Then when when when death row and motherfucking and and yeah, 1494 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 1: but a certain generation it is going through a golden 1495 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 1: name but already got you. I'm saying that another We 1496 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,760 Speaker 1: already got that. So you're saying that's saying something brand new. 1497 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 1: We got it, just got a little different. It's just 1498 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,639 Speaker 1: gonna look different. It's gonna's and it's we saw that one. 1499 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 1: So it's not gonna skill the same note, but it's 1500 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,080 Speaker 1: gonna look different. But it can happen for sure, because 1501 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:56,760 Speaker 1: like we didn't want the guy with the rainbow head, 1502 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:02,800 Speaker 1: but he did bring a couple of trophies home and 1503 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:12,640 Speaker 1: we did claim's like, yeah, broke our trophy. But I 1504 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,479 Speaker 1: think you do you think the face of musical is 1505 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,800 Speaker 1: going to continue to change like that? Yeah, I think 1506 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,439 Speaker 1: our value system of what we used to make. You know, 1507 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,920 Speaker 1: our judgments on hip hop has changed. Well I think, yeah, yeah, 1508 01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,759 Speaker 1: are you're right? Our judgment will change, but their judgment 1509 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 1: with yes and and our and the goal post has 1510 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,120 Speaker 1: been moved. So you know, we used to be able 1511 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 1: to judge people's success by plaques. We used to be 1512 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:45,040 Speaker 1: able to judge people's success by you know, awards. Um. 1513 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,920 Speaker 1: Now it's kind of like um, like the plaques, aren't 1514 01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 1: people used to people get excited for two hundred thousand 1515 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,600 Speaker 1: records sold and three hundred thousand records, So now you 1516 01:29:56,439 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 1: with it the numbers like the numbers that used to 1517 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,320 Speaker 1: be put up on the fun a lot more money. 1518 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:16,479 Speaker 1: How would excitement over sixty reconsole when I mean, it's like, 1519 01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,640 Speaker 1: so are we had to reevaluate what is valuable with 1520 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 1: the whole ship, you know what I'm saying. So we 1521 01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:23,960 Speaker 1: can't look at it the way we used to look 1522 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,719 Speaker 1: at it. So that's why people are able to become 1523 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,479 Speaker 1: like suits, like I'm sorry, superstars overnight through the streaming 1524 01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,639 Speaker 1: ship and through these other things. But then you gotta 1525 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,960 Speaker 1: look at the longevity of it, you know what I'm saying. 1526 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,400 Speaker 1: Like these guys they turn on and they out a 1527 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,320 Speaker 1: year in the next year, So there's there's the price 1528 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 1: to pay for that instant fame. But the one thing 1529 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,560 Speaker 1: that I do get the new generation that is so 1530 01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 1: awesome is they can go directly. Absolutely that's the Yeah, yeah, 1531 01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,040 Speaker 1: so are they because a lot of them are you 1532 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:07,839 Speaker 1: mean to be going direct? And he pulls tribution, Yeah exactly. 1533 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,800 Speaker 1: People like that because he makes these young kids rapping 1534 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,880 Speaker 1: that don't have a label deal or don't have anything. 1535 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,240 Speaker 1: It makes them feel like, well, if he could do 1536 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:18,640 Speaker 1: it like that, I could do it like that. And 1537 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm steady trying to tell you he's not doing it 1538 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,960 Speaker 1: like that. There's always a wizard of Odes false product. 1539 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You give him a false hold, 1540 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. It's making the music ship too, 1541 01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 1: because anybody could make it. Like anybody could literally, like 1542 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen a tweet the other day, I 1543 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:41,600 Speaker 1: think I hosted it, and um and I see the 1544 01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,960 Speaker 1: tweet and they said, you know, back in the days, 1545 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,439 Speaker 1: we would want to, you know, make a record like 1546 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:53,600 Speaker 1: rock him and we could have another part of this, 1547 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,000 Speaker 1: he said. But you can't never make it, he said. 1548 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 1: The thing is nowadays these kids could listen to a 1549 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,479 Speaker 1: record and say, you know what, I make that and 1550 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,479 Speaker 1: really make that that. That's like we can't do gender 1551 01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,720 Speaker 1: juice over can't do that, and like make that ship 1552 01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,240 Speaker 1: a class you can new pitch please right now and 1553 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,200 Speaker 1: like making the same ship like right now you can 1554 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:21,680 Speaker 1: actually do whatever. Wouldn't be thinking whatever these kids are doing, 1555 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:29,760 Speaker 1: you can actually do it. I got X is a 1556 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:43,760 Speaker 1: pertect big pharmacy. Oh you heard, he's that you'll give 1557 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,679 Speaker 1: him one thing. At least at least they're peaceful about 1558 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 1: the ship because I might get shot. You know what 1559 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That people used to beat over. You can't 1560 01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 1: just jack somebody style of them bite somebody. You know. 1561 01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,080 Speaker 1: Now they just all sound like each other and do 1562 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:04,719 Speaker 1: the funk sound like a j problem? There's no problem, 1563 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We came up. It was 1564 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:18,080 Speaker 1: hands on, hippop hands on. He was so hands on. 1565 01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:22,560 Speaker 1: I forgot, what's your relationship with that? Mad right? Me 1566 01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,880 Speaker 1: and Busino? I think he uh, he says something about Slaughterhouse, 1567 01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: and it was at a time where I didn't understand 1568 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,920 Speaker 1: that when you're going to another level, people are gonna 1569 01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,240 Speaker 1: say ship you feel me? I thought that I still 1570 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,599 Speaker 1: have to react to every fucking thing that everybody said. 1571 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:41,840 Speaker 1: You know, now I understand I don't have to react 1572 01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 1: to ship, you know what I'm saying. But he said 1573 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,040 Speaker 1: something negative about slaughter House and I was just in 1574 01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,559 Speaker 1: that mode like, yo, no man, you know what I mean? 1575 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,680 Speaker 1: And then him and Royce had a little back and 1576 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,360 Speaker 1: forth and it was it was crazy because you know, 1577 01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 1: I used to funk with buses. You know. You know 1578 01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He got the day the day and 1579 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,559 Speaker 1: Dave made you know what I'm saying, and I respect 1580 01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,760 Speaker 1: what they put down with the source and you know 1581 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,400 Speaker 1: that's stuff that's the original bodyboard hip hop fast. You 1582 01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:13,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I just I just hated that. 1583 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,200 Speaker 1: I probably handle that a little wrong. You know what 1584 01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. To be honest with you. You know what 1585 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because he's bigging you up. They're coming on 1586 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 1: here and them actually bigging you up. Let's saying the 1587 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,320 Speaker 1: exact opposite of what's happened. At the time. He's like, 1588 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,519 Speaker 1: you know, Cook, it's my man. He just you don't 1589 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,000 Speaker 1: know what's going on in the room. And I was like, 1590 01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that. Yeah man, I mean 1591 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's you know, cool man. I just like 1592 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 1: I said, Dog, I was just in that space. Dog. 1593 01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,760 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you and that when you're lawyer. When 1594 01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 1: you're lawyer, can't see but you're riding for the team, 1595 01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,000 Speaker 1: supposed to ride for the team and everything else. Later 1596 01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 1: he's supposed to say whatever. You know, these things, you know, 1597 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,960 Speaker 1: januinely cares about the culture, whether you agree with some 1598 01:34:54,040 --> 01:35:01,040 Speaker 1: of these views or not. Yes, yes he cares about 1599 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,560 Speaker 1: the culture like he's a hip hop but he is 1600 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:08,400 Speaker 1: one million percent for the culture is one million percent. 1601 01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,720 Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes you know you you could be 1602 01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:15,679 Speaker 1: in the right place, right y'all think he probably whatever 1603 01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,840 Speaker 1: he said he is. It's so crazy. I don't even 1604 01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,439 Speaker 1: remember what it was about. But I think it has 1605 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,680 Speaker 1: something to do with us being attached to eminem and 1606 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:27,519 Speaker 1: m and history, you know what I mean. So and 1607 01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 1: plus I wasn't even around me and you know what 1608 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:33,439 Speaker 1: I mean. But you know, silly ship like that. Yeah, man, 1609 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:38,720 Speaker 1: hip hop, I'm actually I actually love that we can grow. 1610 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 1: I actually love that, you know, people get like I 1611 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,880 Speaker 1: love Drake and Meet Mills situation right now, like, and 1612 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,080 Speaker 1: I love that Drake even made fun of it like 1613 01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,320 Speaker 1: a poster. Mean was like, yo, if I hurt you 1614 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,639 Speaker 1: and I ain't, He's like, did you see that ship? 1615 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:58,880 Speaker 1: Like watching? And I think that's what makes hip hop dope. 1616 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I can we can be but as 1617 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,320 Speaker 1: long as no one got their hands put on, no 1618 01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 1: one's gonna hurt that. We can also you know, make 1619 01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:13,719 Speaker 1: amends and then make money. And it helped sixteen thousand 1620 01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 1: other people make more money. I feel like that's I 1621 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,000 Speaker 1: feel like, I feel like that's what the East Coast 1622 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 1: West Coast say is. It was a big misunderstanding, and 1623 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:24,760 Speaker 1: now I look at it. You can't go to the 1624 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,519 Speaker 1: East Coast without seeing a West Coast due East Coast. 1625 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,840 Speaker 1: I can't go to the West Coast, but I've seen 1626 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:35,160 Speaker 1: the East Coast dude, like, and it's just but we 1627 01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been there fun if it wasn't some type 1628 01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:42,080 Speaker 1: of like like not the same We're respected the smoke, 1629 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,400 Speaker 1: but the fact that that happened and what it is 1630 01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,519 Speaker 1: today and what it is today like to this day, 1631 01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,599 Speaker 1: I go out there and everybody when I'm in um 1632 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,400 Speaker 1: in l A, most of the people I see is 1633 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,080 Speaker 1: from New York people. And then when I'm in New York, 1634 01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,560 Speaker 1: everybody's like, man, you know, they we both got the 1635 01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:05,800 Speaker 1: opposite goal whatever. Always it's always funny. When I was 1636 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,479 Speaker 1: when I give an iced tea because I'm like, what's 1637 01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 1: up over the room, He's like, you don't you know 1638 01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,600 Speaker 1: I live over here, Like like, damn, you know I 1639 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:16,680 Speaker 1: want to live where you just laugh exactly, And I 1640 01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:23,600 Speaker 1: love New York man killing it, man doing movies you 1641 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,519 Speaker 1: gotta be in l a correct. You know. A lot 1642 01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,400 Speaker 1: of movies you know and not get booked in that light. 1643 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,599 Speaker 1: But a lot of movies are filmed in other plays 1644 01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:38,200 Speaker 1: like yeah, Van cool, you know Atlanta. Um film film 1645 01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,320 Speaker 1: can happen anywhere, you know, But the business isn't that 1646 01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:46,599 Speaker 1: like you know, um and the people that that really 1647 01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,800 Speaker 1: are pushing buttons and the studios are there, you know. 1648 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,280 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna come there as an executive as 1649 01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,960 Speaker 1: as as an actor, you will at some point, um 1650 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:02,280 Speaker 1: come to that La Copter. God, damn, I'm not gonna lie. 1651 01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:08,639 Speaker 1: You have the best weed in the morning. I remember, 1652 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't you. I don't remember that. I got a 1653 01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,840 Speaker 1: little story for you. I was on the West Coast 1654 01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:18,000 Speaker 1: one night. I just left out a subclub and I 1655 01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 1: stood outside smoking and you was out, was like you 1656 01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,840 Speaker 1: helped me down. I was outside smoking and he was 1657 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 1: looking up. He was like, it's just snormy. You could 1658 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:32,120 Speaker 1: just buy himself just I was like, yo, I had 1659 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:38,560 Speaker 1: already got soaked in and yeah, man like, because you know, 1660 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,240 Speaker 1: it was scary for us at first, you know what 1661 01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,519 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because of you know, the biggie thing like 1662 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,040 Speaker 1: you know that ship that that's some scary ship, like 1663 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,800 Speaker 1: you know for us, because we didn't. We were too 1664 01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,040 Speaker 1: young to understand what was going on. We're too young 1665 01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:55,639 Speaker 1: to understand that the disc record could lead to too 1666 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,840 Speaker 1: We're coming ain't bad? All right? Yeah, he called me. 1667 01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,800 Speaker 1: You're we come inhead. We want to put you in 1668 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,600 Speaker 1: the podcast where you at. You sound drunk? All right? 1669 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,799 Speaker 1: All right, come in here, come inside, Come inside, Come inside, 1670 01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,160 Speaker 1: I said, he sounds drunk. I ain't even here, but 1671 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,720 Speaker 1: it was it was I remember I remember after Big 1672 01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 1: Dying m I don't care what the record label we 1673 01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,000 Speaker 1: was on. They we would lad and they would make 1674 01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 1: sure we had security, and I was like a non 1675 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,400 Speaker 1: security dude, and it was just like it was something 1676 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,639 Speaker 1: we couldn't fight and we were like literally like shoku. 1677 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,040 Speaker 1: And I remember none of us hunk out, like none 1678 01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:37,160 Speaker 1: of us came. It was one of those days and 1679 01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,479 Speaker 1: I came out and I said it. I remember evening 1680 01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,519 Speaker 1: actually said. I was like, man, you know New York dudes, 1681 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:46,840 Speaker 1: don't hangtu eather like, don't finish that, don't finish the sentence. Remember, 1682 01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,439 Speaker 1: it was like a chill because I was like because 1683 01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,760 Speaker 1: it was like literally that tab bore at the time 1684 01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,719 Speaker 1: because I was that was real, Like we hadn't seen 1685 01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,320 Speaker 1: death in hip hop, like we've seen death and hip 1686 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:05,040 Speaker 1: we didn't see you know, cancer, diabetes and like that, 1687 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,600 Speaker 1: so you know, it was real. So where we at now, Popsipe, 1688 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,160 Speaker 1: And that's the exact same thing I'm talking about when 1689 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:12,560 Speaker 1: I came to New York because that was one of 1690 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,040 Speaker 1: my first trips to New York, you know what I mean, 1691 01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,320 Speaker 1: And I didn't know what to exact. I'm on death 1692 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,280 Speaker 1: row records, you know, I'm going to the East Coast 1693 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,080 Speaker 1: ship I might be loving. You feel me, so you 1694 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 1: know when you did what you did, you feel me 1695 01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:28,519 Speaker 1: and that's what made me say, you know what, this 1696 01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,439 Speaker 1: is solid dude, man. You know what I mean. I'll 1697 01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:32,680 Speaker 1: never forget this moment, you know what I mean. And 1698 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,200 Speaker 1: I like how you say giving the people the flowers 1699 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,640 Speaker 1: and all that, because like even x X is of 1700 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,560 Speaker 1: one hundred dude, period. You can't find people in the 1701 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,840 Speaker 1: industry that's one hundred like that, you know what I mean. 1702 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 1: So when you do, you gotta give them their flowers 1703 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,600 Speaker 1: while they hear you. Gotta say it on public platforms. 1704 01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,360 Speaker 1: People act like it's illegal to tell the truth. Sometimes 1705 01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,599 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But this dude right here 1706 01:40:52,760 --> 01:41:00,800 Speaker 1: one many levels to show love, yeah, show love like um. 1707 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:06,439 Speaker 1: One of the craziest things is uh us to say 1708 01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:10,720 Speaker 1: no homebo. Right. We get I get it. But a 1709 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,120 Speaker 1: lot of times if I say, yo, cookie man, you 1710 01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,280 Speaker 1: know that first you got on the I might just say, 1711 01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, no, homo five because the bird was hard. 1712 01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:24,240 Speaker 1: He's showing a line. And the thing is, it puts 1713 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:27,280 Speaker 1: a taboo on our culture when that's that should be 1714 01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,760 Speaker 1: the exact opposite. That should be like, you know, we 1715 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,439 Speaker 1: shouldn't even say that. We should be like yo, man 1716 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:37,559 Speaker 1: who killed that? Give people all mainstream show yeah yeah, 1717 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,080 Speaker 1: and we gotta we gotta, we gotta change that in 1718 01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,479 Speaker 1: our culture. We have to exchange it. We have to. 1719 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,839 Speaker 1: We have to like this is why I drink champions 1720 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,600 Speaker 1: it like you know, so many people, you know, we 1721 01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,840 Speaker 1: will see I'm gonna keep it real. I don't want 1722 01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,760 Speaker 1: to front. We will see so much slack. We put 1723 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,640 Speaker 1: on ot Genesis and we put on young dogs, right 1724 01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:03,920 Speaker 1: people that's probably I considered legends, but we wanted to 1725 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,519 Speaker 1: get them benefit. Doubt they knew brothers. They're coming up, 1726 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,679 Speaker 1: they're doing it, and we built our this this ship 1727 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:25,639 Speaker 1: so bad that the fans really fans there. But come on, please, 1728 01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:30,400 Speaker 1: let come on. We don't gotta break the screens. Get 1729 01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:40,720 Speaker 1: a chance, get talking about real quickly. Oh you can't 1730 01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:53,720 Speaker 1: even Dominican jacket too pure, you don't worry about come on, 1731 01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,040 Speaker 1: we're sure you guys. Mike, we don't know. Mike, you've 1732 01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:01,000 Speaker 1: got the boom. Mike, right, get this away. I need 1733 01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,400 Speaker 1: to do saying. Oh, that's right, that's a right, that's 1734 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,120 Speaker 1: right to do. St. Pelusa. Let's make some voice producing. 1735 01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,400 Speaker 1: That's the found the right started in that motherfucker's career, 1736 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,240 Speaker 1: right there? Are you? Loco? I know you know, you 1737 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,080 Speaker 1: know that we're gonna joe this podcast. Really you didn't 1738 01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:25,880 Speaker 1: know this is rory? Yeah? Really no, No, that's it, Yeah, 1739 01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:32,400 Speaker 1: familiar milion. This is never gonna be a slaughter house again. 1740 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:38,880 Speaker 1: This is an ambush. I didn't know. I didn't let this. 1741 01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:45,240 Speaker 1: This is a total inbush outside Crook's love all that. 1742 01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 1: This is an ambush. I just want to make that close. 1743 01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,560 Speaker 1: It's a total ambush. I can't because I love you. 1744 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what you were doing. The house to 1745 01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:57,840 Speaker 1: come back quick. We sold the house is none of 1746 01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:59,920 Speaker 1: my business. Why did y'all ask me if I sold out? Yeah, 1747 01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,559 Speaker 1: that's true, that's why would I That was a great response. 1748 01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,559 Speaker 1: Crook and Joey do a lot of respect. I love Joe. 1749 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 1: My loyalty is always with Joe, But why would have 1750 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 1: an opinion on sold house? That's gonna do with me? 1751 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:20,000 Speaker 1: I got a expenion, So you're not smoking. I think, 1752 01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,000 Speaker 1: I think I want to. I want you to you know, 1753 01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:26,760 Speaker 1: if Drake and meet mail where you're going with this 1754 01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:30,880 Speaker 1: can move on? I think eventually slow the house because 1755 01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 1: I think it's it's too important to hip hop to 1756 01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,320 Speaker 1: let that go. Me personally, I don't know where everything 1757 01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,559 Speaker 1: lies wherever because I don't. I don't know everything because 1758 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm also an artists. I don't know if you had 1759 01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,160 Speaker 1: an agenda here with a sold house. No, I don't. 1760 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say a word that we could talk 1761 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 1: a hip hop but I don't have any opinion. A 1762 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:55,840 Speaker 1: lot of apples and what they do that I mean, 1763 01:44:55,920 --> 01:45:01,320 Speaker 1: they're very HIPI as a fan, I love Let's like 1764 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,360 Speaker 1: saying like if I was actually about Wu Tang, right, 1765 01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,400 Speaker 1: if I was gonna say Yo Wu Tang, you would 1766 01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,360 Speaker 1: say what messy man is not one of my best friends. 1767 01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:13,679 Speaker 1: So I can comment objectively great, fucking great. I can't 1768 01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:17,280 Speaker 1: objectively talk about start out. One of the members is 1769 01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,439 Speaker 1: one of like, that's tenly to me. I respect that, 1770 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,200 Speaker 1: So I can't. Let's stay business. It's not about business. Respect, 1771 01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:29,360 Speaker 1: that's not about it. Pete, about where are you from? 1772 01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,240 Speaker 1: Queen's you set up? Can you get to try to 1773 01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:38,560 Speaker 1: take them all? Shout? He get a shout? Can we 1774 01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,240 Speaker 1: get a run of plause for your project? This ship? 1775 01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what project? Oh think, what are you 1776 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,840 Speaker 1: talking about? My favorite part of that intro? Man? What's 1777 01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,160 Speaker 1: what's the bar? I'm about to get rich of a 1778 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:59,080 Speaker 1: pure personality again, Thank you man. I appreciate it. Everybody 1779 01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,080 Speaker 1: but yourself. That's right. That's good because I stay ahead 1780 01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:05,280 Speaker 1: like big up everybody else and then you no one 1781 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,400 Speaker 1: to pay attention to what you're doing. I want you 1782 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:09,880 Speaker 1: have a little bit of beef. I do have a 1783 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:15,800 Speaker 1: little beef with you. Here we go again, changing. I'm 1784 01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:20,280 Speaker 1: a professional. Last time I came here, when I was 1785 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,519 Speaker 1: on here, it was cool. It was like, really this 1786 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,479 Speaker 1: is like some real professional. You got the whole We 1787 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,320 Speaker 1: was in a different world. Try to like this ship 1788 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:35,000 Speaker 1: doing takes like this ain't the cool. Yes, it's crazy, 1789 01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:43,080 Speaker 1: sold brother, I'm sorry we're not saying the checks. Time 1790 01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,479 Speaker 1: I was here, this ship was like you kick you 1791 01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,400 Speaker 1: see a man show man. They got hair and makeup. 1792 01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,679 Speaker 1: Oh no, they do the pup and they got stars. 1793 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,720 Speaker 1: They stylish. At least you don't do hair makeup and 1794 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 1: stylish man, that's debatable. No, we don't got on hair makeup. 1795 01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,600 Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but I wouldn't be so. And 1796 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,840 Speaker 1: they'll think it here and do hair and makeup. He 1797 01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:14,120 Speaker 1: is a hair friend. Weeople were right. We are turned. 1798 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,680 Speaker 1: We are a different show. But let me just say 1799 01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,559 Speaker 1: something right here. Let me pick up to a state 1800 01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:21,960 Speaker 1: of the coach other big up to Joe, what y'ab 1801 01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,360 Speaker 1: what you do? Let me pick up to the Joe podcast. 1802 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:29,439 Speaker 1: Think y'all do? And and it's love and it's a 1803 01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:32,559 Speaker 1: community's end to think about the way if y'all succeed, 1804 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,639 Speaker 1: we all success. The same fans ship is say, kind 1805 01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:40,200 Speaker 1: of a new uncharted territory type of ship, like the 1806 01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:44,400 Speaker 1: more with our Spotify deal, like that just gave people 1807 01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,479 Speaker 1: more worth, like when they saw what we was worth 1808 01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,760 Speaker 1: for that Spotify deal. That means the next podcast that 1809 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:51,800 Speaker 1: comes up as the same numbers as us are. I 1810 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:53,559 Speaker 1: know what we're worse because I know what they got. 1811 01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,519 Speaker 1: So when I did the revote ship like grap Radar 1812 01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,720 Speaker 1: all that ship. Any time we do the ship like 1813 01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,320 Speaker 1: people try to we're all. I know, we do the 1814 01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:08,800 Speaker 1: funny ship like. But it's not with me to think 1815 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,000 Speaker 1: about it is this is what I believe in. I 1816 01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,960 Speaker 1: believe hip hop to control hip hop. Now what I 1817 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,280 Speaker 1: mean by that is I love Hennessee right. I love 1818 01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm lie, I don't really love it, but I'm like 1819 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,600 Speaker 1: I love love more. I love more Whack right. But 1820 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,080 Speaker 1: if I had a choice, I would like to own 1821 01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:27,599 Speaker 1: my own version of more Whack Right. And I would 1822 01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,720 Speaker 1: like that to be on the table. To me in 1823 01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,880 Speaker 1: a perfect world is if I'm going to get socks, 1824 01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,040 Speaker 1: them socks is owned by somebody that is owned by 1825 01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,880 Speaker 1: somebody that owns something in hip hop. If I'm going 1826 01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,720 Speaker 1: to get news, I want like I said, I said 1827 01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,600 Speaker 1: it all the time, I want Jim Jones to be 1828 01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,840 Speaker 1: my weather man, like when I get the weather, and 1829 01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a nigga like Jim Jones going 1830 01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,320 Speaker 1: on the back with saying your ship is real and Brooklyn, 1831 01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,800 Speaker 1: do the fucker. I would rather that, Like if I'm 1832 01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,439 Speaker 1: going to go see sports, I would like to see 1833 01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,960 Speaker 1: j the Kiss being the person that's telling me, you'll 1834 01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:09,200 Speaker 1: listen the niggas that lake is they I would like 1835 01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,600 Speaker 1: it to come off from hip hop, like that's what, 1836 01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:14,800 Speaker 1: that's what, that's my dream, that my dream is. I 1837 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,200 Speaker 1: never have to go outside my culture. And now with 1838 01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:22,120 Speaker 1: that being said, our culture can't be Ratio. It can't 1839 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:26,240 Speaker 1: be you know, blacks and Latinos. That has to be everybody, 1840 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 1: anybody that love hip hop. That's our new race is 1841 01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:35,719 Speaker 1: hip hop. That we all bonded, we all congested together 1842 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,920 Speaker 1: because we're all repper that one flag and that's hip hop. 1843 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:43,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's gonna save humanity. I'm sorry, 1844 01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:46,200 Speaker 1: I got way too deep right now. Just's just not 1845 01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,439 Speaker 1: really dream jams. I'm sorry, but we're gonna shout out 1846 01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:52,720 Speaker 1: David Banner who was here are you? And he talked 1847 01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,360 Speaker 1: about that everything he was wearing except his pants, he 1848 01:49:55,439 --> 01:50:01,400 Speaker 1: owned it like he owned it and changed the economy 1849 01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,519 Speaker 1: in the hood. You see what I mean. It saved 1850 01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,120 Speaker 1: a lot of lives and they changed the entire economy. 1851 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,599 Speaker 1: You gotta do rapping. You gotta managers, you gotta producer, 1852 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,000 Speaker 1: you gotta promoter, you gotta graph artist, you gotta hip 1853 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,519 Speaker 1: hop exact. You got people getting checks all because of 1854 01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:20,200 Speaker 1: the culture, and if it could do something as powerful 1855 01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,280 Speaker 1: as that, they could do exactly what you wanted to do. North. 1856 01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,599 Speaker 1: But when the cultures are changing the economy of the industry, 1857 01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,000 Speaker 1: that's when the culture started to change. Did the culture 1858 01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 1: change or did mainstream rap just come into play, but 1859 01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,880 Speaker 1: the culture still. I just I've seen people down the 1860 01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,560 Speaker 1: street with the kids on the walls, you know what 1861 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I go to Italy, I see people out there. 1862 01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:45,360 Speaker 1: You know they're rapping. Because it wasn't the president of 1863 01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:48,200 Speaker 1: the at one point, Yeah, he wanted to give me 1864 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:52,000 Speaker 1: an exact job, you know what I'm saying that, and 1865 01:50:52,000 --> 01:51:04,560 Speaker 1: then he made came on. But that's how well he 1866 01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:08,160 Speaker 1: me and you talked about executive positions and you know, 1867 01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,160 Speaker 1: sugars like this. I'm going to go meet with Leor 1868 01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:13,800 Speaker 1: and I want you to learn the game and get 1869 01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,240 Speaker 1: your business i Q. So I'm gonna take you with 1870 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 1: me so you could just soak up the game, you 1871 01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and that's how she was, so, 1872 01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, and he wanted to do like retirement funds 1873 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,120 Speaker 1: for artists. He wanted to do health you know what 1874 01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, insurance for artists. But every time he tried 1875 01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,400 Speaker 1: to do something on that level, he got resistance from 1876 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:38,000 Speaker 1: the powers that be. And sometimes that resistance comes in 1877 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,320 Speaker 1: the form of the FEDS knocking at your doing. Luis, 1878 01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,400 Speaker 1: you should what I mean. So he had that mindset though, 1879 01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:48,240 Speaker 1: absolutely he had that mondset. We all biggest God bless 1880 01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:51,120 Speaker 1: I want to I want to thank you, exhibit, to 1881 01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:54,759 Speaker 1: thank you for coming out showing a love because honestly, 1882 01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,559 Speaker 1: this is what makes us who we are. We gotta 1883 01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:03,120 Speaker 1: keep saluting and supporting each other. Dig motherfucking crooked eye. Man, 1884 01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,960 Speaker 1: you brought you some snakes to Oh that's that's okay. 1885 01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm into that, you know. I'm Romeo eighteen seventy five 1886 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,960 Speaker 1: is like my favorite man. Okay. So that's like Romeo 1887 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,639 Speaker 1: and Juliette. Yeah, Romeo and Julian. That's a love story, 1888 01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:24,120 Speaker 1: like Jimo said. Yeah, And I also want to thank 1889 01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:27,120 Speaker 1: you too, war We gotta also want you to set 1890 01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:34,240 Speaker 1: up at all. I just think it's just something I 1891 01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:38,160 Speaker 1: was kid about that I wouldn't. That's inside, that's person 1892 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:44,920 Speaker 1: that we know. It wasn't. Man, you know like that 1893 01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,280 Speaker 1: was a great connection right here, like I actually brought 1894 01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,640 Speaker 1: you up. Like he's here, like he knows. I mean, 1895 01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,040 Speaker 1: people want people want to know that's how strong the 1896 01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:56,320 Speaker 1: sat Our house brand was. Yeah, I mean not you 1897 01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,360 Speaker 1: still want to know outside of let's be clear, I 1898 01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:01,840 Speaker 1: got a little side commission at all. But as a 1899 01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,240 Speaker 1: hip hop or as a person that knows that four 1900 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:08,560 Speaker 1: different lyricists got together and did some crazy ship and 1901 01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't know why it's going. I know that the 1902 01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:15,479 Speaker 1: M ship played a big part of it. That's all. 1903 01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:17,320 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying, 1904 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:22,000 Speaker 1: And I just man and let me just ask you again, 1905 01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,760 Speaker 1: this is not a sound But did you know? That's 1906 01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:28,440 Speaker 1: how you know it's a set up? What did you disrespect? 1907 01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:30,639 Speaker 1: When here comes from disrespect? You named Joe went kind 1908 01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,519 Speaker 1: of too far when he was critiquing M's album or 1909 01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:38,639 Speaker 1: or uh. I think a lot of things that Joe 1910 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:40,519 Speaker 1: said were made up. If you go back and look 1911 01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:42,280 Speaker 1: what he said on every Day Struggle, I think it 1912 01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:48,960 Speaker 1: got blown out of proportion. I think I was I 1913 01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,080 Speaker 1: think a lot of ship went to the headline thing 1914 01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,240 Speaker 1: and and just knowing Joe personally and how much he 1915 01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:59,240 Speaker 1: loves him and respects him proportion though, if you go 1916 01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,320 Speaker 1: back and look what he said on Everyday Struggle, I 1917 01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:05,320 Speaker 1: challenged anyone that picks. He used the word trash, and 1918 01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,160 Speaker 1: I think that was what was the Remember the context 1919 01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:12,040 Speaker 1: exactly of what was trash untouchable? I guess he says 1920 01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,040 Speaker 1: his trash stored in the rice or some ship. You 1921 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,519 Speaker 1: know what Joe be saying? Yeah, going on, I mean 1922 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:21,120 Speaker 1: that's going to podcast. No, No, the thing that everyone 1923 01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:24,160 Speaker 1: was talking about was right there. Okay, yeah it wasn't aboutcast. 1924 01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,479 Speaker 1: But did he clarify it on on your podcast? Yeah? Yeah, 1925 01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,839 Speaker 1: we significantly went through it. And you know, I'm always 1926 01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,480 Speaker 1: as as one of his close friends, the first person 1927 01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,880 Speaker 1: to say when he bugging, And I don't think he 1928 01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:40,160 Speaker 1: was sucking. I think it was Honestly, I don't want 1929 01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,200 Speaker 1: to know you, don't want to have more complications but 1930 01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,480 Speaker 1: platform with you, because what yeah, that's nothing to do 1931 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:47,360 Speaker 1: with me. I got I want to be here to 1932 01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:52,520 Speaker 1: talk about here because I love North to death. My 1933 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:56,080 Speaker 1: whole thing is is that, like I was saying, dog, 1934 01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:02,440 Speaker 1: if you got a issue with somebody pass on the 1935 01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:06,200 Speaker 1: critique of the album and their singles, because how can 1936 01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:09,480 Speaker 1: you be fair? How can you come from a place 1937 01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:12,280 Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, you just listening to it, 1938 01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:15,000 Speaker 1: you say, and your personal feelings to the side. I 1939 01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:18,880 Speaker 1: don't think so, you know what I mean? And I 1940 01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,400 Speaker 1: just think that with everything that see, me and Royce 1941 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,600 Speaker 1: were very hands on Snarterhouse from the beginning to the end, 1942 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,360 Speaker 1: me and Royce to five nine. So all fitness, I'm 1943 01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,840 Speaker 1: sorry to cut your sustrainity and I wanted you to 1944 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:34,960 Speaker 1: finish your point. But um, so we're talking about revival, right, Yeah, 1945 01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:38,640 Speaker 1: we talked about revival, but then Kama Kazi actually came 1946 01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,960 Speaker 1: out after that, which was the am I correctory. The 1947 01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,680 Speaker 1: Karmic Kazi came out right after him. So do you 1948 01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:48,080 Speaker 1: think m felt that like a little bit like like 1949 01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:50,840 Speaker 1: that's from Joe particular, But I'm just saying, just do 1950 01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:52,880 Speaker 1: you think that he felt that from that fans? So 1951 01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,720 Speaker 1: that's why he went and made Karma Kazi. I think 1952 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,440 Speaker 1: he was inspired, and I think he was inspired by 1953 01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,360 Speaker 1: his critics. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I think 1954 01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:03,800 Speaker 1: he was inspired by his class and he just went 1955 01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:06,080 Speaker 1: in and got and that's him. He gonna he's gonna 1956 01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:08,080 Speaker 1: speak his mind. I mean, he's done in his own career, 1957 01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:10,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he was just inspired. 1958 01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:14,040 Speaker 1: He went in and he made some ship. And you know, 1959 01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:18,720 Speaker 1: like I said, Dog, it's just like I said me, Royce, 1960 01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:23,120 Speaker 1: we just really we win the trenches for slaughter House. 1961 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,800 Speaker 1: You give me so when it you go in the 1962 01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:30,440 Speaker 1: trenches like that, and if you if you got a 1963 01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:34,160 Speaker 1: communication line with your brothers, then you talk to your 1964 01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,000 Speaker 1: brothers like, Yo, this is what I'm about to do. 1965 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,400 Speaker 1: Is this gonna harm anything that you guys are doing 1966 01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,960 Speaker 1: to try to get glass House out right now? Because 1967 01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't like my time to be wasted. If I'm 1968 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,400 Speaker 1: flying from Cali to New York sitting in the office, 1969 01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,040 Speaker 1: is fighting for this Glasshouse ship on my own time? 1970 01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,000 Speaker 1: Let me know if you're gonna throw a grenade at 1971 01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:56,280 Speaker 1: that bitch, you know what I'm saying, Just let me know, 1972 01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:00,440 Speaker 1: and I won't get on that plane. You feel me, God, 1973 01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,720 Speaker 1: it's gone all right? Yeah, wrap it up. Let's wrap 1974 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:19,760 Speaker 1: it up. He's not a quit. Now. I gotta take 1975 01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:20,120 Speaker 1: a PASSI