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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: nooy with you, Launch Strickler back with us. He's a researcher, author,

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Speaker 1: publisher of the syndicated Phantoms and Monsters blog. Very successful.

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Speaker 1: He began the blog back in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: It has grown in popularity is read by tens of

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Speaker 1: thousands of paranormal enthusiasts, investigators, and those seeking the truth.

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Speaker 1: Lawn welcome back. How are you, hey, George? Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. I'm hanging in there. I'm looking forward to this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're fighting off the COVID and everything else. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's been difficult, but we're getting through at him different

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Speaker 1: different times for people, isn't it it is? Hey? How

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Speaker 1: did you get interested in covids and I in these

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Speaker 1: kinds of creatures cryptids? Well, I had originally I was

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Speaker 1: doing just paranormal investigations. I'd started back in the seventies,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it wouldn't quite comment back then like

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Speaker 1: it is now. And I eventually I had in a

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Speaker 1: bigfoot encounterback in nineteen eighty one. And when that occurred,

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Speaker 1: I instantly became interested in it because I wanted to

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Speaker 1: find out what it was I saw first of all,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to try to get an explanation as

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Speaker 1: to what this thing was. And that kind of started

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Speaker 1: the journey. Did you get the answers you were looking for?

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Speaker 1: You know, I guess I did, but I you know,

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Speaker 1: there's always you know, you get one answer, there's always

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Speaker 1: another question, you know. And that's that's kind of had

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Speaker 1: kept me going ever since. I mean, there's just so

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Speaker 1: many many strange things out there, unusual things that people

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Speaker 1: can't explain, and h you know, the whole crypted field

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Speaker 1: has remained staggant. There always seems to be something else

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Speaker 1: popping up, and h that's what keeps us going. A

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, there was a case in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: wasn't there of a winged humanoid? Yeah? This actually started

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Speaker 1: in two thou eleven when there were there were three

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Speaker 1: sightings towards the end of the summer and of this

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Speaker 1: this winged being. It had some aspects of being like

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Speaker 1: a humanoid shape being, but it had wings. The wing

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Speaker 1: structures were described as being like that of a bat.

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Speaker 1: But it was pretty innocuous. Uh. There was a photograph taken,

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Speaker 1: though I am not sure if that was actually a

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Speaker 1: photograph of the actual being itself. So as time went on,

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Speaker 1: you know, that did create a bit of a stir. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Those three sightings were all three reported to the mouf

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Speaker 1: On CMS, and we really couldn't get a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of information other than what Moufon had provided. So in

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Speaker 1: earlier two thousand and seventeen, reports started showing up on

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Speaker 1: mouf On cms of these wing being sightings, wing humanoid sightings.

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Speaker 1: And as time went by, a friend of mine, Manuel Navarette,

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Speaker 1: who lives in Chicago, he's a UFO investigator, started contacting

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Speaker 1: me telling me about that this had phenomena had started again.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, there were the first several reports

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Speaker 1: were made to the mouf On CMS, and then we

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Speaker 1: started soliciting reports to be reported directly to us and

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Speaker 1: it started coming through, and you know, twenty seventeen was crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was literally unbelievable. We received fifty plus

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Speaker 1: reports that year. Wow, the same thing, something very similar. Yeah, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, there were there were some chain differences. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The first report was kind of that of a mothman

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Speaker 1: insectoid type being, but we also had what people were

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Speaker 1: and uh. But that kind of that kind of waned

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Speaker 1: the reports for consistently like that of a gargoyle or

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Speaker 1: a bat wing humanoid. Wow. Now this was the basis

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Speaker 1: of your book, Mothman Dynasty, wasn't it. Yes, which is

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Speaker 1: a great book, by the way. And are we still

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Speaker 1: getting reports of this thing? Yeah, we are. The majority

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Speaker 1: coming from the area of O'Hara International and the suburb

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Speaker 1: of Rosemont. We do occasionally get a sighting in the

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Speaker 1: about eighty percent of the sightings that we have gotten

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Speaker 1: two pilots with reports who actually saw them. Why. They

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Speaker 1: right yeah, people, I mean, these these folks have been

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Speaker 1: to put their story out. There are people reporting one

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Speaker 1: ever had one report of two of these things, and

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Speaker 1: the most part, it's always a singular being and it's

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Speaker 1: been some, but very few. What does your gut tell

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Speaker 1: that way. Why these porters opening up or how they're

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Speaker 1: very fleeting. They seem to show up very quickly, are seen.

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Speaker 1: We've had some sightings where people describe them as looking

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Speaker 1: that's a bit weird. Um. You know, we have had

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Speaker 1: other impossible alien beings. We've had witnesses who have seen

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Speaker 1: of these craft. Uh. You know, we've had human small

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Speaker 1: You know, just like a lot of other cryptid activity,

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Speaker 1: And when they call it the smiling man, is that

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Speaker 1: in and out and uh, you know, did he shape shift?

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Speaker 1: It seems that he may have something to that effect.

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Speaker 1: But as far as you're saying that it was did

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Speaker 1: he have a big smile like the grinning me, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that maybe that was maybe over exaggerated to

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Speaker 1: interesting now and next half after the break, I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the not deer sightings, which are very

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Speaker 1: bizarre too. These are all strange little stories. Tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell me about your bigfoot sighting that you had. Well,

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Speaker 1: this was in May of nineteen eighty one. I was

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Speaker 1: I was fly fishing on the south branch the Tapsco

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Speaker 1: River near Sykesville, Maryland, and it's an area I'd been

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Speaker 1: at many times. And I was in the river in

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Speaker 1: chess Waiters fly fishing, of course, and I happened to

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Speaker 1: notice across on the other side of the river, on

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Speaker 1: the north side, there was a dog kind of moving

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Speaker 1: in and out of the weeds, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: didn't pay it in mind, but I knew it was there.

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Speaker 1: But not long after, I heard this thing yelp. And

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Speaker 1: as I looked over there, I saw this huge harry

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Speaker 1: I could see it really well from chest up because

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Speaker 1: the weeds were so high. Definitely not a bear. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a bear. And as this thing stood up

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Speaker 1: and I'm watching it, it moved to my left and

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Speaker 1: walked out of the weeds and I got a full

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Speaker 1: the time. You know, of course, I had heard of

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Speaker 1: the Boggy Creek thing and all that, but I wasn't

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Speaker 1: really into the big foot phenomena. I you know, I

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Speaker 1: had heard about it. You kind of got pulled into it,

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Speaker 1: I did, and h but this thing was maybe about

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Speaker 1: fifty foot away from it was standing there. We locked

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Speaker 1: eyes and it was making like a ticking sound, which

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Speaker 1: I later discovered that it was probably gnashing its teeth.

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Speaker 1: I've had other reports of something sooner than that, and it,

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Speaker 1: you know, it stood there. It was definitely a male

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Speaker 1: because I could see the genitalium on this thing, very hairy,

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Speaker 1: about eight foot in height, had a somewhat conical head,

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Speaker 1: but it had a very very thick brow ridge on it,

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Speaker 1: typical bigfoot description. But this in a way to me

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Speaker 1: looked more like a Neanderthal or more human than as

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Speaker 1: opposed to being a gorilla or almost like the missing link. Yeah. Possibly,

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, if I had had a weapon,

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Speaker 1: i'd have never shot at it, you know. So you know,

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Speaker 1: we were looking at each other for a good five

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Speaker 1: seconds or so. And did he run away? He just

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Speaker 1: turned around on the diamond and started walking swiftly up

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