WEBVTT - Desert Survival: Josh and Chuck Save Your Tookus 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.560 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:13.920 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.800 There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there. You 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.800 put the three of us together, and you've got stuff 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.639 you should know just in case you ever get lost 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.400 in the desert. Is what we're going to give as 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.080 our gift to you. Tradition. You know, it's funny as 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:32.280 I was reading a podcast newsletter today, like an industry newsletter, 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.320 and I'm gonna buzz market it, alright, uh, and I 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.279 mean there's only one now, there's probably more than one. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.159 There's several, are there? I think? So all right, I 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.159 should get on there. I've seen at least two. Two 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.400 can be several, right, isn't that the Biblical unit? Several 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.680 is two? I thought the Biblical unit was a cubit, right. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.240 I'm glad we can laugh at this one. Um. And 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.160 it said there was an article specifically about podcast burnout, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.520 and they interviewed someone that was like, you know, she 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.560 started podcasting in two thousand seventeen and blah blah blah 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.119 and experienced burnout. And I gotta laughed. I was like, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.000 I mean, I get it, like people burn out in 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.680 different ways and they may have a it's tougher workload 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.360 than us. But I just sort of snickered that after 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:24.000 eleven or click going on, eleven years, very soon ye 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.679 have this April, but eleven years, like we we have 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:32.080 moments of not burnout, like we get a little warm 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:37.080 kind this again, but that quickly passes very quickly. You know. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.679 I'm never like I've never burned out. I would say 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.880 that where I don't want to do this or anything. No, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.840 I know, I would say there's probably been like literally 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.440 five times. I'm sorry to use the word literally, but 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.440 I literally mean literally in this sense, yes, because you've 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.680 built a statue of paper machee after each time represent 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.360 each burnout, right, and they're they're on my desk, you 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.040 can count them. Is five. But it comes in like 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.440 just digging into a topic at a time when there's 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.560 like a bunch of other stuff going on or whatever. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.200 It's just been a really long stretch where maybe we're 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.920 recording more than usual, and then when we get in 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.040 here to record, it's gone agreed. That's when it doesn't happen. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:19.919 I don't think I've ever been and let me knock 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.480 on wood. I don't think I've ever been in a 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.640 recording session with you and been like not wanted to 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.079 do it, agreed my friend. And weirdly, I am more 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:33.280 burnt out with movie crush at times like it sounds. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.680 Trust me, I'm not seriously complaining, But ask Emily how 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.119 many times I've been like, I gotta watch this movie 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.480 tonight notes on because it takes long, and like I 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.200 have to pause to take the notes because I don't 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.120 want to miss anything. So it takes like three and 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.080 a half hours to watch a movie and take notes. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.840 And plus, how I guess you're you're fundamentally not able 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.280 to enjoy the movie. It's not like enjoying a movie, right, 0:02:55.280 --> 0:03:00.160 you're quite analyzing it a little bit. And it's at night. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.440 I'm kind I guess you're right, kind of, but and 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.720 it's at night, so it's like I'm technically not at work, 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.880 and sometimes it's just like I don't want to watch whatever. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.200 Yeahint point break? Who's who's his point break? Jordan Morris 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.720 of Bubble and Jordan Jesse go, Okay, yeah, point break 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.880 is a good one. No, no, no no, it was. It 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.959 was really kind of fun watching that. Actually I don't 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.120 know why I pulled that one up, okay, because it 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.000 was the most recent one I watched. But to take 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.400 notes on point break and it can be a little tedious, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:34.960 right bra. There's that one great part where they do 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.440 the midnight surf and Kiano has just learned, you know, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.080 and you just hear this because it's obviously a d 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.400 R like recorded afterwards, and you just hear him yell 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.640 m E and surfing. Man. It's just such a great line. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.000 Does he say E or the F word? Well, he 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.720 says the F word. That would have been better if 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.960 you have said maybe on T n T that's how 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:00.080 it said. Oh boy, um, oh there's one. Oh have 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.480 you seen that? Sorry, I know we haven't even started yet. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.880 Have you seen that video of Keanue on the New 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.440 York I believe subway giving a seat up to a 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:16.279 lady who's standing. No, but he is a legendary good guy, yes, 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.240 who's been through some horrible stuff. Yeah. Um, And I 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:25.080 just want to be his friend, Kenna Reeves. If you're listening, friends, okay, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.200 well he's your friend first because you asked, well, we 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:32.000 could share him, okay, all right? Tuesdays and Thursdays that's 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:37.640 fine together. Okay, all right, that's a fair. You can 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.560 have him well alternate weekends, okay, because you know Canda 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.080 on the weekends. That's that's a party. He think he's 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.720 a good guy Monday through Thursday. See how many seats 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.720 he gives up on a Saturday. Alright, wait, hold on, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.480 one more thing. Can you imagine Kenna Reeves listening to 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.800 this conversation at first, kind of chuckling himself, and it's 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.400 getting like weirder and weird. Rights finally pressent stop and 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.040 maybe you never listens again. We just blew our chance. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.680 Chuck all right, one more thing and then I swear 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.640 I'm done. I meant to tell you that I did 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.760 some l A sessions recently for movie Crush and UH 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.479 the Great Show High Maintenance on HBO. It's one of 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.479 my all time favorites. The dude on there, Ben Sinclair 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.520 as the guy, the we delivery guy, UH is just 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.760 like one of the main reasons I went there in 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.080 person was just so I could meet him. I meet 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.120 him and the first thing he said was is, hey, man, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.440 I used to listen to you and Josh when I 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:36.080 UH was a shusher at this lesbian poetry bar, and 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:37.760 I was like what. I was like, first of all, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.000 it's a sushre. He's like, it's a poetry bar, you know. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.080 I said, there and shush people, and he's like, but 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.000 he usedill listen. You guys always wonder what you look like? 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.400 Did Josh quit smoking? And I was like, why don't 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.760 you people ever reach out right, like do you know 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.400 what that would admit to me? Which he was just 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.880 a susure at the time, so maybe I know, but 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.680 now he's made it. Yeah, So anyway, I told him 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.800 that you quit smoking, You're doing great. I don't think 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:00.680 he's listening for a bit, but do you think he's 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.960 listening now? I don't know if he got back on 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.760 the train or not, but if he did, do you 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:09.320 think he's friends with Ken Reeve? Oh? Maybe? But ben 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:13.640 Claire gives up his seat for no person. And if 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.600 you if you say, like, maybe you should stand up, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:20.560 he goes, no, he would give up his seat. Okay, anyway, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.760 let's talk about desert survival. Imagine Chuck ben Sinclair is 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.039 making his way through the desert in his car, priests 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:32.200 will say, and he runs out of not just gas 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.800 but electricity as well, which he might he has a 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.680 big RV. Actually that's worked into the show. Okay, he's 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.840 in his RV, so he just straight up runs out 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.160 of gas, which probably happens a couple of times a 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:47.320 day in a big old r V, I would imagine. Okay, Um, 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.240 Ben's in trouble because Ben was not expecting to have 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.600 this extended stop and unexpected stop in the desert, so 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.040 he did not bring a few things. Okay, if Ben, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.520 we're paying a little less attention to whether people were 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.840 talking you need to be shushed or not, and more 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.120 attention to his desert survival. What would he have packed 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.160 in that RV, Chuck, Well, Ben Sinclair would have had 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.720 probably a pound of weed. Okay, so he's got a 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.480 good start there because he could burn that for a 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:19.200 signal fire or for comfort and warmth. Um well, I 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.200 mean I wrote this dumb article. This is a great article. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.160 Did you notice my stupid thing I did with the 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.560 music titles? Sure, the Oasis thing and all of them 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.440 are song titles. All the sidebars are song titles. And 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.560 that was back when I was like, oh man, I 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.280 am the most clever person alive. So I got the 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.600 wonder wall one. Um, rescue me. Okay, I gotta me, 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:42.440 but I was thinking more of the TV show than 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.200 the song. There's also so everybody, if you go onto 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.120 how Stuff works dot Com right now and look up 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.360 how Desert Survival works. Each page, almost every page has 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.960 a a a sidebar, and the title of the sidebars 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.680 are song titles. Rescue me. After all, you're my wonder wall. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.080 What's what could it be? It's a mirage? What would 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.680 it be? It's a mirrage? What is that I'm telling y'all, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.559 let's sabotage? Okay, that's a good one. And then finally 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:14.000 a little shout out to uh Annie food, glorious food. Okay, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.840 so that was that was what used to make me 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.200 happy at work. Yeah, I remember those days. Yeah you too. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.920 When you do like a clever photo caption and that 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.440 would be that would get you through the week. We 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.160 would stand up and like share it over the cubicle wall. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.800 Look at photo caption. Yeah no, it's gonna blow everybody's mind. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.800 All right. So, uh, you're in the desert, you want 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.480 to have uh well, let's just let's just talk about 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.800 this stuff. Okay. Yeah, what what should be in your 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.679 kid water? A mirror? Uh? That's a big one way 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.080 to start a fire. Yeah, that's a big one too. Basically, 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.520 it's a lighter, food water. If you're gonna cross the desert, 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.000 have a lighter, which seems counterintuitive because it's hot in 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.240 the desert, but no, trust us. Well you'll see you 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:59.000 want a lighter on you a mirror which you'll see too. Yeah, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.839 that's what we'll do. We'll say what's supposed to be 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.120 in the pack and in the r V, and then 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.160 we'll go back and we'll Okay, I'm suddenly burned out. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.160 Should we take a break? Yeah? All right, let's take 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:39.800 a break and let's start the podcast in earnest. All right, everybody, 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.200 welcome to stuff you should know. I'm Josh, there's Chuck, 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.520 there's Cherry over there, and we're talking desert survival. So 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.880 let's get to it. And so this is all due 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.840 to the fact that we just recorded a very tough episode. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:53.199 So we're clearly just goofing off now. Um, so we're 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.400 talking about deserts, and we did a desert episode yeah, 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.280 and a desertification episode two, and I think one on 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.480 the dust Bowl. But something that all deserts have in 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.640 common is not sand, is not even heat. It's a 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:11.160 lack of water. Technically, Antarctica is the largest desert on 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.320 the world in the world, um, and there's lots of water, 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.040 but it's all locked up as ice. There's no available 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.120 water in exactly the same way as there's basically no 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:25.920 available water in Death Valley in California. UM. Deserts have. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.880 The next thing that they have most frequently in common 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.520 is again not sand, but exposed bedrock. All of those 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.400 cool formations or whatever that's actually the bottom of the 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:40.200 earth you're seeing exposed. All the soil has been dried 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:45.839 out for so long because basically it's been pants. Um. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.760 We've got some good pants stories by the way, King 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.640 soon Yeah. Um, the soil is so dry that it 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.000 can't be held in place, so wind is blown it away. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.720 And so what you're seeing is the exposed bedrock. Sand 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.960 only makes up something like of the world's death. Yeah. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:06.480 I mean, you've got pebbles, you have desert soil. Sometimes 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.600 that bedrock you were talking about, We're gonna talk about 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:13.120 O a CS. So I think Anarctic is survivor an 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.440 Arctic survival or even Arctic survival deserves its own episode 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.120 short Day. So we're just gonna be talking about hot 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:23.600 deserts and all of that sand and exposed bedrock and 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:29.400 pebbles bakes in the sun and shoots that heat back 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:34.199 out and it's just super hot. Okay. Yeah, so water 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.000 is the biggest obviously the biggest, biggest problem. If you 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.959 get trapped in the desert on foot or in a car, uh, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.480 and you think about, like, never go desert hiking. I 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.600 don't need to worry about this. But have you ever 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.240 been like, oh, I'm gonna take the long route through 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:53.280 from Texas to California because it's more scenic. Uh, And 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.280 then your car breaks down and you're in big trouble 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.160 if you don't know what you're doing. Um. That happened 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.000 to a woman. I can't find her name right now, 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.240 but she is a She was a grandmother. I believe 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.600 she's seventy two, who was driving in her Prius and 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.839 it ran out of gas and electricity on the way 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.880 I believe to Phoenix, and Um, she had an unexpected 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:19.040 trip with her dog for nine days and survived amazing. Yeah. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.120 Did she eat her dog? No, Luckily she did not 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.240 have to eat her dog. Did she survive on the 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.959 saliva of her dog. Yeah, they well they spit in 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.959 one another's mouth, so it was kind of but they 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.280 did that any it was a wash. So, Uh, dehydration 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.679 is obviously the first kind of UM physical symptom you 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:41.120 might experience if you run out of water, uh decreased 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.280 frequency of urine. Of course, if your urine is very 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:48.040 smelly or very deep yellow, your mouth is going to 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.960 be dry, your you know, as things increase, uh dehydration wise, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.600 you're gonna get sunken eyes, your heartbeats gonna increase. And 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.880 if you get to the stage where you literally have 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.199 no urine, or if you're vomiting and have diarrhea, then 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.720 you're pretty bad shape. Yeah, So vomiting and diarrhea is 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.559 like the last thing you want to do while you're dehydrated, 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.840 because all it is is just getting rid of any 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.480 remaining hydration you have. It's not good. That's that's a 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:19.200 bad reaction to dehydration. Um. And we'll talk about heat 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.120 casualty coming up, but UM kind of psyched about that bit. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.200 Oh yeah. But when we talk about water and rationing water, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:32.560 there's an old saying ration sweat not water, meaning UM, 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.120 don't like drink all your water at once, but rahtion 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.719 you're sweat like they say not to you know, if 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.280 you are lost like this, like don't go hiking to 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.199 find civilization during the peak of day. You want to 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.120 ration how much output, how much you're sweating. Um, But 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.800 you you do have to take in that water. Yeah, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:56.360 So when you're in the desert, you you recommend or 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.400 I should say the experts recommend because it's obviously very 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:04.440 well research starticle um that that somebody drink a gallon 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.800 of water a day. Well, I mean that's what they say. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.680 If you've got like a you know, unlimited amounts of 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.559 water a gallon a day, you need a rashtion it 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.520 somewhat if you have very limited water obviously, But what 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.679 you don't want to do, which happens a lot of times, 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.880 is to be found dead with water in your canteen. Yeah, 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:27.080 which is it's haunting sure and um And like you said, 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.080 I mean you want to you want to rashtion your sweat, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.120 not your water, but you do kind of want to 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:32.680 rash in your water, like you know, I don't want 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.880 to be a little water piggy right out of the gate. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:39.440 But you also you recommend um via the experts that 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:45.240 you that you don't just wait until you're thirsty, because 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.600 you'll only get about two thirds of the amount of 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.200 water you actually need just by going by thirst. You 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.600 want to actually stop and like drink more water than 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.560 you think you need. Yeah, and if you're hiking around again, 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.960 we we talked about morning and evenings or the best 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.760 time to go look for how um, if you see 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.960 a trail, go down that trail because you have a 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.040 better chance of finding someone there. Um. Follow the birds. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:13.520 Birds generally and animals go towards water. Yeah, Apparently if 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.280 they're circling in the morning or the evening, they're probably 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.080 circling around water. Try and get some groundwater going. But 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:26.000 very wisely you point out through the experts that if 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.320 there's like a little, you know, small mountain in between 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.360 you and those birds, in a longer way around the 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.920 mountain that's flat, take the longer way that's flat, because 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.040 even though you might cut off a couple of hours 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.240 between you and the birds, you're gonna really exert yourself 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.280 going up that mountain, Whereas instead you want to you 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.760 want to take the longer but slower, less exerting path 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.280 to get to that water where the birds are circling 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:56.440 for sure. If you're with someone, um, don't talk. I mean, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.120 you know, you can talk some, but don't just chat 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.400 about your day. Try to conserve your words, Try and 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.120 breathe through your nose. What do you think about grace jump? 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.280 If you happen to see any wet sand or standing 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.360 water anywhere, then you're in luck because you can dig 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.840 down in there and you will probably find more water 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.520 under you know this groundwater underneath it, which is that's 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:26.160 a benaans. If you find like a groundwater in the desert, 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.720 you're probably gonna be okay. Yeah. If you don't find 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.520 any water and you run out of water, you're probably 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.160 not going to be okay. No, you also want to fire, 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.520 which you said isn't very intuitive, but uh, if you've 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.320 ever spending time in the desert, the temperature swings are huge. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.080 You can get cold in the desert at night, and 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.920 then fire allows you to purify water. There's that whole 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:54.800 safety feeling. It keeps mountain lions away, right. Sure. I 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.520 would guess just about any critters don't go near fire 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.680 because they associated with wildfires in the desert. Brush fires 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.200 rescue signal. You can you can do that, I'll trick. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:06.919 I think we even did a show on smoke signals 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.280 early on. No, I don't think so. No, No, And 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.680 I've wanted to keep forgetting to write. Are you sure. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.960 I'm pretty sure it was like an early, early early 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.320 to go listen to it because I wanted to do that. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.640 It's probably not very good. Um, but your whole point 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.480 of all this is to find people and to get rescued. Yeah, 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.280 you make a great point about that. Yeah, Like, like 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.679 the point of being lost in the desert is to 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.920 make yourself visible. Yeah. The point of not being lost 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.840 rather or being lost in finding rescue the key to 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.240 being found. How about that? Right? So, if you are 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.360 in a car, if your car is not working anymore, 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.320 it's out of gas or whatever, flat dire um, blow 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:49.200 it up. Basically, stick a hanky in the gas tank 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.359 and just blow it up. So you want to stick 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.280 the hanky in the gas tank. You want to fashion 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.080 a bow and arrow, light the arrow, stand back and 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.159 shoot the cars gas tank. That's what you want to know. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.840 You want to open your hood entire rag to it 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.879 or a bandanna around your antenna or something anything like 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.199 a typical sign of distress. Um, if anything to make 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.680 it like something's up here. Sure. Yeah, like even if 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.919 the hood is fine, like you raise a hood as 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.800 an indicator. Yeah, like if there's no engine trouble, right, 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.640 you can still raise the hood. It's all right. Nobody's 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.080 gonna like arrest you when they rescue you. Uh, if 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.600 you can spell out UM S O S or something 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.320 like that with help clothing or help on the ground, 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.520 for if a helicopter or plane is nearby. Yeah, that's that. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.920 That woman in Arizona was rescued by writing help. I 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:40.920 think that's actually how they found her. She wrote help 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.239 and sticks. Oh really yep. Nice. Her dog told her 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:48.000 to do it. That stuff works. Uh, if you are 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.480 in your car, you've got a leg up because you 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.479 have your rear view mirror or your side view mirror. 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.440 That just just go ahead and break that thing off 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.639 and use it. Yeah. I think he said in the 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.960 first few minutes that we're trying to forget about now 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.560 that you want to have a mirror in your survival 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.640 pack no matter where wherever you're going hiking. Yeah, but 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.880 a lot of people don't have survival packs in their car, 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.480 like most people. I think, I mean, I don't know, 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.399 I think about it. I've got like jumper cables and 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:22.560 some rain cks. Does that count? You know? After that 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.359 last stupid Atlanta I storm a few years ago that 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:31.199 stranded people snow apocalypse. Yeah, I um, I think I 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:32.720 had something in my car after that, but I have 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:34.480 a different car now. It wasn't much, but it was 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.320 like some water and a blanket and some like granola bars. 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.960 I need to like stock up minded Emily's car with 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.000 that stuff. Yeah, for sure, you never know. I think 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.840 they just remember when we had some tornadoes in Atlanta 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:46.840 a few years ago. You and I were like, we 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.720 really need like a crank radio and like all this stuff. 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.680 We started together, and you're like, oh, I wonder what's 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:57.119 on TV? Before your note? You're watching the Japanese game shows. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:01.240 He'd forgotten like eight hours go by. But a signal 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.160 mirror is important, you know, you just uh flash that thing. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.560 It says here too. I was about to make fun 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.080 of it, but I realized I wrote it. But practice 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.720 on a nearby rock a good advice, you know. I mean, 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.520 you don't want your first attempt at signaling somebody with 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:17.840 a mirror to be while you're trying to signal somebody 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.320 in a passing aircraft. Probably so. And I mean like, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.719 if there's no cloud cover, you can get somebody at 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.960 like thirty feet if you do it right. So heck, yeah, 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:28.840 practice on a rock. What else are you gonna do 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.159 while you're sitting around in the shade. Nothing? Yeah, there 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.480 might be a Delta pilot up there. That's like, oh god, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.080 what is that? That's so annoying. You should have a 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.639 whistle in your survival kit so you can blow it 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.880 if you see someone from far away and um, they 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.480 recommend that if you honk your horn for help, to 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:51.080 be like hunk unk honk, and then wait and honk 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.439 honk honk, because if you just lay on it like 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.399 you're if you're in traffic, someone might hear that and 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.800 just think this car has this horn stuck. Yeah, those 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.560 be like that's so annoying. I'm gonna continue on past 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.919 this weird um path and death valley that no one 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:09.360 should be down. So let's say horn is stuff. Let's 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:11.840 say you are in your car, your car is is 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.280 jacked up, um, and you're like, all right, I've exhausted 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.760 my resources here, screw this, i gotta go take a hike, 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.919 leave a note on your car and say like, hey, 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.520 I'm broken down and I've gone northwest on at two 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.880 a pm on Tuesday. Also, I'm Chuck Bryant, who hopefully 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.640 you're looking for. You found him. Check out my podcast 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:35.840 Stuff you Should Know and movie Crush. Yeah, never miss 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:40.680 an advertising opportunity. But if you do stay with your car, Yeah, 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:42.399 it's like, just don't sit around in your car, like 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.040 sit in the shade. And they even say to sit 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.160 on a blanket. Yeah. The reason being is because there 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:50.640 can be something like a thirty degree height temperature difference 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:54.399 between the ground and the air above the ground. Nuts. 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.800 That's that's how barren and hot the ground gets. And 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.359 it's it's not like the air above the ground is cool. 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.040 It's still hot because the ground is heating it. But 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:06.240 the ground itself is taking in all of that unbroken, 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.920