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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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Speaker 1: There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there. You

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Speaker 1: put the three of us together, and you've got stuff

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Speaker 1: you should know just in case you ever get lost

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Speaker 1: in the desert. Is what we're going to give as

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Speaker 1: our gift to you. Tradition. You know, it's funny as

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Speaker 1: I was reading a podcast newsletter today, like an industry newsletter,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna buzz market it, alright, uh, and I

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Speaker 1: mean there's only one now, there's probably more than one.

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Speaker 1: There's several, are there? I think? So all right, I

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Speaker 1: should get on there. I've seen at least two. Two

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Speaker 1: can be several, right, isn't that the Biblical unit? Several

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Speaker 1: is two? I thought the Biblical unit was a cubit, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we can laugh at this one. Um. And

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Speaker 1: it said there was an article specifically about podcast burnout,

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Speaker 1: and they interviewed someone that was like, you know, she

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Speaker 1: started podcasting in two thousand seventeen and blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: and experienced burnout. And I gotta laughed. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, like people burn out in

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Speaker 1: different ways and they may have a it's tougher workload

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Speaker 1: than us. But I just sort of snickered that after

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Speaker 1: eleven or click going on, eleven years, very soon ye

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Speaker 1: have this April, but eleven years, like we we have

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Speaker 1: moments of not burnout, like we get a little warm

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Speaker 1: kind this again, but that quickly passes very quickly. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm never like I've never burned out. I would say

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Speaker 1: that where I don't want to do this or anything. No,

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Speaker 1: I know, I would say there's probably been like literally

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Speaker 1: five times. I'm sorry to use the word literally, but

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Speaker 1: I literally mean literally in this sense, yes, because you've

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Speaker 1: built a statue of paper machee after each time represent

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Speaker 1: each burnout, right, and they're they're on my desk, you

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Speaker 1: can count them. Is five. But it comes in like

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Speaker 1: just digging into a topic at a time when there's

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Speaker 1: like a bunch of other stuff going on or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's just been a really long stretch where maybe we're

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Speaker 1: recording more than usual, and then when we get in

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Speaker 1: here to record, it's gone agreed. That's when it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been and let me knock

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Speaker 1: on wood. I don't think I've ever been in a

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Speaker 1: recording session with you and been like not wanted to

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Speaker 1: do it, agreed my friend. And weirdly, I am more

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Speaker 1: burnt out with movie crush at times like it sounds.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm not seriously complaining, But ask Emily how

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Speaker 1: many times I've been like, I gotta watch this movie

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Speaker 1: tonight notes on because it takes long, and like I

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Speaker 1: have to pause to take the notes because I don't

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Speaker 1: want to miss anything. So it takes like three and

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Speaker 1: And plus, how I guess you're you're fundamentally not able

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Speaker 1: to enjoy the movie. It's not like enjoying a movie, right,

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Speaker 1: you're quite analyzing it a little bit. And it's at night.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind I guess you're right, kind of, but and

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Speaker 1: it's at night, so it's like I'm technically not at work,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just like I don't want to watch whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeahint point break? Who's who's his point break? Jordan Morris

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Speaker 1: of Bubble and Jordan Jesse go, Okay, yeah, point break

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Speaker 1: is a good one. No, no, no no, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was really kind of fun watching that. Actually I don't

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Speaker 1: know why I pulled that one up, okay, because it

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Speaker 1: was the most recent one I watched. But to take

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Speaker 1: notes on point break and it can be a little tedious,

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Speaker 1: right bra. There's that one great part where they do

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Speaker 1: the midnight surf and Kiano has just learned, you know,

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Speaker 1: Does he say E or the F word? Well, he

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Speaker 1: says the F word. That would have been better if

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Speaker 1: you have said maybe on T n T that's how

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Speaker 1: it said. Oh boy, um, oh there's one. Oh have

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Speaker 1: you seen that? Sorry, I know we haven't even started yet.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen that video of Keanue on the New

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Speaker 1: York I believe subway giving a seat up to a

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Speaker 1: lady who's standing. No, but he is a legendary good guy, yes,

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Speaker 1: who's been through some horrible stuff. Yeah. Um, And I

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Speaker 1: just want to be his friend, Kenna Reeves. If you're listening, friends, okay,

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Speaker 1: have him well alternate weekends, okay, because you know Canda

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Speaker 1: one more thing. Can you imagine Kenna Reeves listening to

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Speaker 1: Chuck all right, one more thing and then I swear

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Speaker 1: some l A sessions recently for movie Crush and UH

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Speaker 1: the Great Show High Maintenance on HBO. It's one of

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Speaker 1: my all time favorites. The dude on there, Ben Sinclair

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Speaker 1: as the guy, the we delivery guy, UH is just

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Speaker 1: I used to listen to you and Josh when I

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Speaker 1: UH was a shusher at this lesbian poetry bar, and

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Speaker 1: it's a sushre. He's like, it's a poetry bar, you know.

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Speaker 1: I said, there and shush people, and he's like, but

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Speaker 1: he usedill listen. You guys always wonder what you look like?

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Speaker 1: Did Josh quit smoking? And I was like, why don't

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Speaker 1: you people ever reach out right, like do you know

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Speaker 1: he's listening for a bit, but do you think he's

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Speaker 1: think he's friends with Ken Reeve? Oh? Maybe? But ben

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Speaker 1: Claire gives up his seat for no person. And if

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Speaker 1: let's talk about desert survival. Imagine Chuck ben Sinclair is

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Speaker 1: in that RV, Chuck, Well, Ben Sinclair would have had

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Speaker 1: probably a pound of weed. Okay, so he's got a

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Speaker 1: mean I wrote this dumb article. This is a great article.

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Speaker 1: Did you notice my stupid thing I did with the

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Speaker 1: music titles? Sure, the Oasis thing and all of them

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Speaker 1: are song titles. All the sidebars are song titles. And

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Speaker 1: wonder wall one. Um, rescue me. Okay, I gotta me,

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Speaker 1: the song. There's also so everybody, if you go onto

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Speaker 1: how Stuff works dot Com right now and look up

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Speaker 1: how Desert Survival works. Each page, almost every page has

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Speaker 1: a a a sidebar, and the title of the sidebars

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Speaker 1: are song titles. Rescue me. After all, you're my wonder wall.

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Speaker 1: let's sabotage? Okay, that's a good one. And then finally

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Speaker 1: a little shout out to uh Annie food, glorious food. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that was that was what used to make me

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Speaker 1: happy at work. Yeah, I remember those days. Yeah you too.

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Speaker 1: When you do like a clever photo caption and that

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Speaker 1: kid water? A mirror? Uh? That's a big one way

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Speaker 1: welcome to stuff you should know. I'm Josh, there's Chuck,

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Speaker 1: there's Cherry over there, and we're talking desert survival. So

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Speaker 1: We've got some good pants stories by the way, King

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Speaker 1: And so what you're seeing is the exposed bedrock. Sand

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Speaker 1: day either. I thought about that too. It's like that's

423
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean that that clothes that situation worse. Right, it's

424
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: doing something to protect you from the UV. You know.

425
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: I think it teaches the average T shirt as like

426
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: a SPF of four or something like that. That's better

427
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: than nothing. Um. Also, chuck if you are right, and

428
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: I guess if like you're actually using this information we're

429
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: giving you right now. First of all, good luck we're

430
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: pulling for you. Secondly, um, if you are going to

431
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: take off your shoes, don't do it in the sun

432
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: because just that exposure of your bare feet to the

433
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: sunlight for that short of a time can make your

434
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: feet swell and you might not be able to get

435
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: your shoes back on, which if you do end up

436
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: having to hoof it out of there, you want your shoes.

437
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: You don't want your feet all swoll up. No, so

438
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: take take your shoes off and let your dogs air

439
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: out in the shade. Only make a little hat if

440
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: you don't have one out of whatever, You've got something

441
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: in your car or something whatever. Like, If you have

442
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: a piece of cardboard, put it on your head. This

443
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: is the greatest sentence. God, I know I loved it.

444
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: Are you really you didn't like this this article? Huh?

445
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just sort of a reminder of

446
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: darker days at this job. So may I read this? Sure,

447
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: if you don't have a hat to wear, fashion a

448
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: head covering with what you have on hand. You may

449
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: look silly wearing a cardboard hat, but your goal is

450
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: to survive, not win a beauty contest, and Lord drink

451
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: a leader of water per hour to stay properly. We

452
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: cut out that part earlier because it didn't sound right.

453
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's if you have all the water

454
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: in the world, but that just sounds like that's a

455
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: lot of water. How you burn through your water? Uh,

456
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: if your car is stuck And this actually happened to

457
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: me once. I got a car stuck in the desert

458
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: one time in the middle of the night with my

459
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: friend when I yeah, I got it out without deflating

460
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: my tires. But they say if you're stuck in the sand,

461
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: to deflate your tires just a little bit. Um, don't

462
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: like start goosing it because you're gonna dig yourself in more.

463
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: Just apply like steady accelerator pressure and turn your wheels

464
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of back and forth a little bit. Let a

465
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: little bit of air and you might be able to

466
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: get out of there. Yeah, again, don't let a lot

467
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: of air out because if you do get out, you

468
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: still need to drive back home, and you don't want

469
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: to do that on overly deflated tires. Okay, Um, So

470
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: if you're going to should we should we take a break?

471
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: Now you think oh why not. Okay, we're gonna take

472
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: a break, everybody. There's there's a lot more to come.

473
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: You're not toast yet because we have more stuff to

474
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: tell you how to survive in the desert right after this.

475
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: I really do love that sentence. That was a great sentence.

476
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: There's one more in here. I can't wait to call out.

477
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: So I'm sure I know what it is. Uh, should

478
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: we talk about oaces? Sure? I mean it depends on

479
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: where you are. But you know, the an oasis is

480
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: just when wind has blown away enough sand that you

481
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: get down to that groundwater. It's all an oasis is. Yeah,

482
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, like an aquifer. Yeah, imagine if there's nothing

483
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: above the aquifer, now you've got a lake boom, that's

484
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: an oasis. Yeah. But they can they can be big

485
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: enough and exposed enough that you can have this like

486
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: lush oasis in the middle of the desert. There's really

487
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: no better word for it. Yeah. And then you know, um,

488
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: if you're in the Sahara Desert, like the communities form

489
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: around these oaces, there's one very large one called the

490
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: Cargo Oasis that is a hundred miles long and depending

491
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: on where you are, twelve to fifty miles wide. Yeah,

492
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: there's plenty big to hold small towns. Plenty big. It is,

493
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: it is. I'm just laughing at this article. I can't

494
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: believe I wrote this thing. I I really value this article.

495
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: This is its great, well written, well researched. This is

496
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: when I was assigned, you know, your survival guy and

497
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: I wrote a lot of these. You know, we've covered

498
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: a few of them on the show, but plenty left.

499
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: I thought these days were over. Uh. If you are hiking,

500
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: the first thing they say is to walk slowly. You

501
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: may you're instinct maybe to get out of there fast

502
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: and find help fast. Very good advice, but that's no

503
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: good no. Not only do you want to remind yourself

504
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: to slow down, because that's what it takes. You're not

505
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: gonna just walk slowly automatically. You're gonna be freaked out.

506
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: So you have to stay calm and say I've got

507
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: to walk slow and just take breaks every about ten

508
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: minutes out of every hour. I think. Um, but if

509
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: you're with a group, you want to walk, Um, you

510
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: want to set your pace by the slowest and least

511
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: fit person in the group. Just everybody walk that slow.

512
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: That person will help pace everybody else um, and it

513
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: will keep that person from just dying trying to keep up,

514
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: like literally dying trying to keep up. I mean everyone

515
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: else has to be like, geez, big Larry in the

516
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: back is really holding us back. But big Larry is

517
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: probably walking at the right speed, which is slow. Yeah,

518
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: at least for you, he's walking slow enough for you

519
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: to slow you down. That's right. That's not a T shirt,

520
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: but it's still true. Should we get to your favorite

521
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: part of this, which is heat casualty. Yes, I know

522
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: you've got some science on this, right, yes, Well, the

523
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: three major categories are heat cramps, heat exhaustion, and then

524
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: heat stroke in that order. Yeah, and heat cramps or

525
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: you know you can get those on a hot afternoon

526
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: if you're out playing frisbee, you can. And all of

527
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: it comes down to it's just basically an escalating um

528
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: imbalance between water and the salt loss. So so like

529
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: the electrical conduction in your muscles and all that from

530
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: your heart to your legs is out of whack because

531
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: you have lost a lot of water and you still

532
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: have a higher salt concentration. Or else you've lost a

533
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: lot of salt and there's still enough water that you're

534
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: you're just not your muscles aren't aren't working quite right,

535
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: so they can cramp. Right if that happens, you say,

536
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: drink like a power aid. If you got it, what

537
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: are you sitting there holding onto it for in the

538
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: first place. For if you're lost in the desert with

539
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: a power aid, I mean fire it down. It's like

540
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't like blue purple um. So that's step one.

541
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: If you have a power aid. If not, if you

542
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: have some water, drink the water. The cramps are gonna

543
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: go away. You can overcome um he cramps pretty easily,

544
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: it sounds like, but you want to stop, rest, get

545
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: in some shade, stop moving, and attend to the heat

546
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: cramps for sure. Yeah, that may lead to heat exhaustion

547
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: if you don't have water and this, like you said,

548
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: it's just an escalation of that imbalance. Um. You may

549
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: be irritable or feel weak, or have a headache, or

550
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: if you're vomiting and have nausea or clammy skin, then

551
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: that's like heat exhaustion is seriously setting in. It is

552
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: um and so again, like salt and electrolytes are really

553
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: important to the electrical conduction in your body and your

554
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: body moves through electrical conduction. It's a big, big component.

555
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: So if that's off, your body's off. But then if

556
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: you're really in trouble, you're you enter into heat stroke.

557
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: And this is the point where your body's system at

558
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: getting rid of heat has been overwhelmed by the heat

559
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: it's taking on and you're in big trouble. When that happens, Basically,

560
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: on a cellular level, your body is failing systemically because

561
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: proteins aren't folding. Actually, in proteins do just about everything

562
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: there is to do in a cell. They're starting to

563
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: clump up and get weird. Then cells are suddenly dying. Um.

564
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: One of your body's main tricks at getting rid of

565
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: heat is through convection, sending your hot blood to the

566
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: surface of your skin, which is why if you go

567
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: into a sauna, your your skin gets flushed. But also

568
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: if you'll notice your heart is pumping, is beating really hard,

569
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: even though you're just sitting there. You're in the heat.

570
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: And the reason why is your heart is working overtime

571
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: shooting blood out to your skin to get rid of

572
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: heat so that your body can cool down. It's using

573
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: your blood as a heat transfer mechanism and your heart

574
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: actually speeds up. You're actually pumping out up to eight

575
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: liters a minute of blood, more than your heart usually

576
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: pumps out when you're starting to enter heat strokes. So

577
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Yeah, I would imagine that would

578
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: put you in danger of cardiac arrest. Yes, I think

579
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: that's one of the results of that whole thing of

580
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: severe heat stroke. So bad headaches, very dizzy, nausea, vomiting,

581
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: your muscles might be spasm ing. That heart rate like

582
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: you were talking about, is way high and you may

583
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: be full on hallucinating at this point, or you may

584
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: fall unconscious. Like heat stroke is no joke. Um, So

585
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: you gotta find shade fast, which is I mean, that's

586
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: the biggest part of our biggest challenge in desert survival

587
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: is finding shade. You know, there's just nowhere yeh, but

588
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: the big rock can be your shade exactly, like whatever,

589
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, just fine shade because the difference between

590
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: shade and sunlight in the desert is substantial. Yeah, And

591
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: they like if you have any water, like now is

592
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: the time. This is when you're found dead with your

593
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: canteen full of have full of water because you're like, no, like,

594
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: I still I'm a day away from finding help, right,

595
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: you have no idea how far you're Yeah, like, this

596
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: is go time to save your life. Plus, also, if

597
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: you have any cool compresses, put them in your armpits,

598
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: put them in your groin. Yeah, um, do whatever you

599
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: can do cool, cool yourself down. Uh I do you

600
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: have any cold compresses left over from the party around

601
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: the campfire the night before? Apparently? Yeah, you're like, if

602
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: I can only called down, Oh wait a minute, I

603
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: have a frozen compress I can put in my crotch. Um.

604
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: They are all kinds of animals in the desert that

605
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: can be dangerous. Um, whether it's spiders, um. Tran Chillas

606
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: are scary looking, but they're probably not gonna kill you. Yeah.

607
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: They don't really care about you. They don't want to

608
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: bite you and knew what they do bite you. It's like, ah,

609
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: stupid tranchila. Yeah, I mean, none of these things wanna

610
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: find you, like you will find these brown reclusives and

611
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: black widows under rocks or under brush or something like that.

612
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: So don't go reaching in there. Don't go reaching in

613
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: some hole like Timothy Dalton and Flash Gordon. You know,

614
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: what hole did he reach into? You saw Flash Gordon, right, No,

615
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: the old one. You should probably enjoy that. I didn't

616
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: realize that was Timothy Dalton in there. I thought it

617
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: was a blonde guy. Well he played U Flash Gordon,

618
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: but Timothy Dalton played the bad guy, one of the

619
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: bad guys. But there was a challenge where they had

620
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: to stick their hand in this big hole and there

621
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: was a stinging creature inside this blob. It sounds like

622
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: that Joe Rogan show. What was they called? You mean

623
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: the Joe Rogan podcast? No, no fear Factor. Remember Fear Factor.

624
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: I used to like that show. That was a good show.

625
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: I could never have done that show though, because of

626
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: the stuff you eat. Yeah, there was some gross stuff.

627
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: That's where I just I was like, I can do

628
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but I can't eat that. I can't

629
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: eat gross things. You could have done everything else though, well,

630
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean to a certain degree, but um, yeah, there's

631
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: no way I could eat eat those nasty things. Yeah,

632
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: you'd probably have an easier time with that than me. Um.

633
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think that would be pretty disgusting.

634
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: On top of that, though, like doing things like sticking

635
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: my hand in something or having like a box full

636
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: of like spiders put over my head or scorpions or

637
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: whatever I could do that I would not. I mean,

638
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: like for what to be on TV. Well, exactly, all right,

639
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: be TV is so great, everybody, it's not. It's cracked

640
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: up to be certainly not where the box of scorpions

641
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: on your head? Speaking of scorpions, there are thirty different types,

642
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: more than thirty different types of scorpions and just Arizona,

643
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: so uh. And they're all over the place, you know,

644
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: They're in Georgia and in the mountains, in the woods

645
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: of Georgia. Very few of them are poisonous, Nah, not

646
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: very many at all. I think a couple of them

647
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: can actually kill a person with their venom um by

648
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: stinging you with that tail. They'll still hurt you though,

649
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Just don't go near the scorpions. Yeah, I mean, you

650
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: can get sick from any of these things. Like a

651
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: black widow is probably not gonna kill you either. No,

652
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: but if you're already like in danger of something like

653
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: he stroke exactly, a black widow bite is not going

654
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: to help, and it's going to be exacerbated tremendously. No,

655
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: But if you do get stung or bitten by something

656
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: like that. And if you don't have that cool compress

657
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: and your crutch, use that cool compress around the biters sting,

658
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: don't elevate it. Yeah, that's a big one. Sure. You

659
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: also want to put it kind of a loose turning

660
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: kid around it. You want to be able to fit

661
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: one finger in the tourniquet so tight ish, I guess

662
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: there's a way to put it. Yeah, And again get

663
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: in the shade, wash it off with some soap and

664
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: water if you have it, and then just dump that

665
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: water all over the ground. This is used up. Uh.

666
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: And then we have snakes, rattle snakes, and coral snakes

667
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: are gonna be your biggest danger. And remember coral snakes

668
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: are red, yellow, and black. And there's a very helpful

669
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: saying red touches yellow. It can harm a fellow. Red

670
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: touches black. Make it a snack. No, red touches black.

671
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: It's okay for jack. And this raises my second favorite sentence. No,

672
00:36:48,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: just remember you're Jack in this scenario. It's okay for Jack. Now, finally,

673
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: I think we sound drunk. We're not um. There are

674
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: lizards um specifically, the do you say HeLa monster or

675
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: Gila monster. I think it's HeLa. I think it is.

676
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: The British say gila and the wrong right they say aluminium. Um.

677
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: So the Gila monster and the Mexican beaded lizard um

678
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: the beat. It is only in Mexico and Guatemala, but

679
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: you can find those gilas in the in the US

680
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: of A. Those are big daddies, though they get up

681
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: like two ft I think, and this is actually my

682
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: favorite sentence. So I'm talking here about the Mexican beaded

683
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: white to yellow spots and stripes on their rays scales.

684
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: It's about a foot long. I described the Gila monster.

685
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: And they say, however, if you see a two foot

686
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: long lizard coming in your direction, maybe you should just

687
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: walk the other way. It's sound advice. I thought you

688
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: were joking when you picked this article. No, I think

689
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: gets a good article. I don't understand why you're being

690
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: so hard on yourself. All right, this last part is

691
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: legitimately interesting. I think the fact of the podcast is

692
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: contained in here, like the uncontented fact. Go ahead, No, no,

693
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: it's your fact, that's not my fact. Alright. Two big

694
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: other dangers to other big dangers or sandstorms and flash floods.

695
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Sandstorms can be very fast or they can last for

696
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: a long time. They can last weeks in the Middle East.

697
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: But if you're driving, you don't want to drive through

698
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: a standstorms to pull over and like put on your hazards,

699
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: roll up your windows. Yeah, why did you say turn

700
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: off your headlights? Do you remember that? I get why

701
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: you put on your hazards, But why turn off your headlights?

702
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: Is it because you don't want to wear your battery out? Maybe?

703
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: I think so? Okay, Yeah, that would be my guess,

704
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: because I didn't know if maybe that created electrical conductivity

705
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: or something and lead to lightning. Maybe. I And if

706
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: you're hiking around and there's a sandstorm, then try and

707
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: tie something or pull your shirt up over your face.

708
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: But those sunnies, um, they say, if you have spare water,

709
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: wet the cloth before you put it over your face,

710
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: and then I'm granting you the fact of the pie.

711
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: Let's talk about flash flooding. Flash floods because the desert

712
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: does not absorb water very easily. Um, because it's basically bedrock,

713
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: and water doesn't go into bedrock easy. Um. Like if

714
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: it rains, it rains hard, and it rains fast. And

715
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: a substantial amount comes down and it collects very quickly

716
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: because it has nowhere to go and can create what

717
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: are known as flash floods. Because of this, more people

718
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: drown in the desert than die of thirst. That's what

719
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: they say. That is an amazing fact. That's one of

720
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: the most amazing facts I've ever heard in my life.

721
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: It really is. Um. And then what was the James

722
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Franco movie The True Story where seven hours? Yeah, like

723
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: there was a flash flood in that, right, I don't,

724
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: I think so. I feel like he was it rained

725
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, thank god, it's raining, and

726
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: then the water to start a rising really fast around

727
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: because he was in a gully. But if you like,

728
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: don't camp out overnight in a dry creek bed, because

729
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: it is no joke. It can It can happen really fast.

730
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: And I was driving through New Mexico once on my

731
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: big out west trip post college, and my friend and

732
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I drove through the most hellacious storm I've ever seen

733
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: in my life. Um, and we literally saw water running

734
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: flowing uphill and I was like, am I seeing things?

735
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, dude, He's like, that is definitely

736
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: uphill And water was flowing up hill some how, I

737
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: guess it was just so much of it. But we

738
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: drove through it until we saw um in front of us, Uh,

739
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: telephone poles like down in the on the highway, like

740
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: all in front of us. Were like, I think we

741
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: should probably pull over at this point, and we waited out.

742
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: But they're usually pretty quick. It's not like it does

743
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: this for like days like it does in Atlanta. It

744
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: was like like thirty minutes of rain, but it can

745
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: be inches and inches of water and again like six

746
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: inches can pick up a car and carry it away.

747
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: It can certainly pick you up off of your feet.

748
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: And there's plenty of stories about people being drowned in

749
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: canyons and Petra Jordan's the very famous archaeological site. People

750
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: like every ten twelve years, like a couple of dozen

751
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: people will suddenly drown in a flash flood because they

752
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: were totally unprepared and in the wrong place when it

753
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: just the sky just opened up on them. So it

754
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: definitely does happen, for sure. Yeah, the good the pluss

755
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: thing about the desert with understorms is, uh, you see

756
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: it coming from a long way away, like it's they

757
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: happen fast, but it's just so wide open out there.

758
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: Like we remember driving for like an hour and a

759
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: half towards this storm. I was like, man, that looks

760
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: pretty bad up there. And the closer we got and

761
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: then it was just like, you know, hell had been

762
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: unleashed on us, right, So what you did, you like

763
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: drive to higher ground or now we we just kind

764
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: of just pulled off to the side of the road

765
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: and waited like half an hour and then it lightened up.

766
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: But it was crazy. Yeah, it was pretty scary. I

767
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: mean not being in a car, but just seeing how,

768
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: like the debt, it went from sand to feeling like

769
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: we were in a river in like twenty minutes. That's crazy.

770
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: Glad you made it, Chuck, you survived to write this article,

771
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: which was a good article. Um, if you want to

772
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: see this article yourself in person, go to house stuff

773
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: works dot com and type in Desert Survival by one

774
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant and you will agree with me. It's a

775
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: good article. And since I said that it's time for

776
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: listener mail, hey guys, listen to Central Park episode and

777
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. The content was spot on as always,

778
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: but Josh made a comment about the podcast being too conversational.

779
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: I think this is a really appropriate listener mail. Funny

780
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: is that, um, I think the conversational aspect is one

781
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: of the most special things about it. Guys, the banter

782
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: between you two makes me pause for thought and oftentimes laugh.

783
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: As an educational podcast, I think having dialogue and debate

784
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: about these subjects is important in my own household. Stuff

785
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: you should Know is very boored. It part of our lives. UM.

786
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: I introduced it to my boyfriend almost three years ago

787
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: and it has taken a special place in our relationship.

788
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: For two years we were long distance, myself in Canada

789
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: and him in Sweden. UH, and we would download episodes

790
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 1: when traveling. It always gives us something to talk about

791
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: and keep the conversation going, makes us laugh together, and

792
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: we even sing the jingles. Uh. My favorite is the

793
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: opera version, much to his dismay. UH. My favorite episode

794
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: is the Golden Age of Gray rob Grave Robbing, which

795
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: makes me laugh so much that I had to put

796
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: it on that I still like to put it on

797
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: when I'm having a bad day. That was great love

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Speaker 1: hearing that was the live one right from London. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I once joked that I would sell my dog my

800
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: first dog for a ticket to one of your live shows.

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00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. You can exchange money instead,

802
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: that's right. Or Stacy, if we're coming to a town

803
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: near you, give us an email. Yeah, I'll put you

804
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: on the old list. Just threatened to sell your dog

805
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: and we'll get you in for free. That's all it takes. Guys,

806
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: thanks so much for giving us a jumping off point

807
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: for more conversation and debate. Please give a shout out

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00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: to my boyfriend Jeff. Wow. Um, sorry Jeff that I

809
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: got on listener mail before you. Yeah, take that, Jeff. Yeah,

810
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: that is Stacy Coombs. The only way that that could

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Speaker 1: get any more appropriate is if this episode comes out

812
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: and Jeff is lost in the desert lap that didn't happen.

813
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: I hope so too, But I mean that that would

814
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: really round out this episode, don't you think. Yeah? But Jeff,

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Speaker 1: if you're out there, look for an RV. Ben Sinclair

816
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: might be inside. I'll probably give you some weak uh.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeff and Stacy and Stacy's unnamed dog who's

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