1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching fsr BO. What Up America, 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope you having a 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcasts every day this time, 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: same bad time, same bad channel, you name it, we're here, 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: We're at your service. Good to have my boy Jay 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: stew back. Obviously you heard the lovely Montsey Banos, so 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's excited about Chris Paul two point zero 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: in Clipperland and of course, uh the always steady Iowa 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Sam on the ones and twos as he gets ready 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: for the second half of the w NBA season, which 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: he just geeks out for. Let's just call it like 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: it is. He's excited. Here you go. He's he's excited, 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: excited and excitable. I think we had a pretty good show. 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good day. I hope 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: you're having a great summer. Sad news Ozzy Osbourne dies 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: at the age of seventy six. When I say sad, 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: it's anybody who dies, it's sad. But as I think 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: Jay stew you said, or was it you? Sam? Like 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: a bit of an upset. Ozzy Osbourne made it seventy 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: six years right? Who was it? Which? Which one of 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: you two said that? 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: No, that's definitely my humor, and it is an upset, 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: Like I remember when we were watching The Osbourne's thinking, 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: this guy's only got a couple more months to whip. Yes, 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: like twenty six years. 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Yes, there was a certain there was a point there 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: where you felt like there was a weekend at Berney's 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: taking place right where you're like, gee, they just propping 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: him up for this show. But Ozzy Osbourne and I 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: thought the point, you know, without trying to make it, 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: because I think you left it so that I could 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: make it, that you make it. The Osbourne's was a 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: bit of a breakthrough show, right. It paved the way 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: for the Kardashians. I don't know if the Keeping Up 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: with the Kardashians happens or is as is as successful 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: without the Osborns. Maybe that's for your next pod Jays too, 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: for your next Bachelor lifestyle pod. Good idea, Yeah, because 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: without the Bachelor and without the Bachelor in Paradise, Love 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: Island has no chance of being as big as it's been. Again, 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: more ideas for your podcast. That's what I do here. 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Don't have ideas for my show for your podcast. I 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: thought Colin had some some really interesting things to say 48 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: earlier today in regards to Jerry Jones and talking about 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: when you try and do try and be great at 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of things, you end up being average at 51 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: all of them. And he was of course specifically responding 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: to Jerry Jones when he was asked if he thought 53 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: he'd ever bring in another guy to be the actual 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: gentleman manager. Here was his response yesterday. 55 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're going to 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously, 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: we've signed. 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: A stepping away as general manager. Ever been even a 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: momentary consideration for the years? 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: Yes, momentary, a lot of moments. Now we're getting down 61 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: to it, small fractions of seconds. 62 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: As you know, you see it. 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm in senior bowls. Combines all of that, all of 64 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: that Mels in two, a real good feeling about where 65 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: we are so that I'm not sitting up there throwing 66 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: darts about a player. 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: So there's a couple of different parts to it. And 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a basketball analogy. You tell me 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: if it makes sense. Jase too, Sam, So there are 70 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: coaches in college basketball who other people substitute for. Like 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: I know of a really really good coach and he doesn't. 72 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: He doesn't do the subs And I just to me, 73 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: that's well, that's like in pregnance, having somebody else impregnant 74 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: your wife when you're fully capable of doing it, right. 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: That's that's my thought about it, especially when the former 76 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: the coach is a former player and a really good one, right, 77 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: because what you're supposed to bring to the table is 78 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: not the relatability, but also, hey, you've been a player, 79 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: so you use that player's intuition. He's been a coach 80 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: for a long time. He's a really good coach. But again, 81 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: it's just interesting allowing other people to do things. Now, 82 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: when you hear how Jerry Jones explains it, I think 83 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: he tells you the truth without you without most people 84 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: hearing it. The last part when he's like you see 85 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: me the Senior Bowl, you see me here, you see 86 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: me there, So we're not just kind of going blind. 87 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: The point is in the NFL, you draft, you let 88 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: your scouts do their job. You have all kinds of layers, 89 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: and you're at the top as the general manager and 90 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: the owner of like a of the pyramid. And the 91 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: point I made about the subbing and the letting somebody 92 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: else impregnant your wife is you know, we can all 93 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: tell Jerry Jones what he should do from our perspective 94 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: as outsiders. The reality is, if you own the most 95 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: valuable team in professional sports and you want to be 96 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: the genlem manager, you can be the gentleman manager. If 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: you want to be the quarterback, you give me the quarterback. 98 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: If you want to be the coach, you can be 99 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: the coach. Like that's your money, You're allowed to do it. 100 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: That's where the expression owners own, Because owners owns. At 101 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: the end of the day, they want to do something, 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: they just damn well do it. No problem, problem solved. 103 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: But I I also think we have a misconception or 104 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: misperception of what actually takes place, is that he's not 105 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: making all these picks on his own. But what he 106 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: can do is they can say, hey, I like this guy. 107 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: I saw it the Senor Bowl. I like that guy. 108 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: Let's take that guy. It's not to say that what 109 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing is perfect or right. And I 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: do think there's a certain amount of what Colin's saying 111 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: which is dead to nuts accurate, because it's not just 112 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: the GMing and the marketing, and it's they haven't done 113 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: a good job of hiring the right coaches. They become 114 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: beholden to players who they should let go. The drafting 115 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: at times has been really good. At times it hasn't. 116 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes they've signed somebody willie nilly out a free agency 117 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: that didn't make sense. It's all those things come up 118 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: are just coming up short, and so the team constantly 119 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: just comes up short. But all of our opinions don't 120 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: matter because we didn't pay the money. We didn't raise 121 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: the money, pay the money own the Cowboys. We weren't 122 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: owning the Cowboys when they want to call three Super Bowls. 123 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: So Jerry's allowed to do what he's allowed to do. 124 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: If he wants to let somebody else impregnant his wife, fine, 125 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: if he wants to do it, fine. In this particular case, 126 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: he's like, I could hire somebody else, but I know 127 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: what I want and I let my scouts do their job. 128 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: And the last part is if we're being honest, for 129 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: the most part, the Cowboys has done a really good 130 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: job of their overall talent level. Granted, the Eagles have 131 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: found a way to sort of put themselves ahead of 132 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: everybody else, but up until last year, there hasn't been 133 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: anybody who's like, you know, the Cowboys just don't have 134 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: that much talent. Hasn't been the case. That hasn't what 135 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: been what has kept the Cowboys from performing in the playoffs. 136 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't think Dak's that good, and I think they're 137 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: in that little bit quarterback purgatory. I do think there 138 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: are some other decisions they have made in terms of 139 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: re signing players. Ezekiel Elliott that wasn't a good contract 140 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: and it screwed a bunch of other things up. So 141 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's perfect, But the idea that you 142 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: bring in a different GM, he didn't have to. If 143 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: you own the team, you want to be the GM. 144 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: And he'd done a good enough job, and they've done 145 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: a good enough job for the last fifteen years. He 146 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have to. Now, Yes, if you do too much, 147 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: something will fall short. And I think it's in the 148 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: coaching hires they make, and in the decision at quarterback. 149 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: They got stuck there. They had Romo, he had his 150 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: flaws in the playoffs, but then he was coming back. 151 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: They stuck with Dak. Dak's been their guy, and you 152 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: do fee letting that guy walk out the door because 153 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: finding the next quarterback is so so difficult if you 154 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: don't have one, as opposed, it feels a little easier 155 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: when you do have one. All Right, we get back 156 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys in a second. But I you know, 157 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: I look at I look at Jerry, and I'm not 158 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: defending him, but everybody talks about him giving up GM 159 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: duties and talent on that football team has not been 160 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: the problem. Coaching quarterback play, some aging out of some guys, 161 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, if being the GM, in terms of how 162 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: you re sign guys, how you structure the contracts, what 163 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: it all looks like. That is on Jerry. That is 164 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: his issue. But that doesn't mean you can't hire somebody 165 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: to help you with those issues while still maintaining the 166 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of overarching theme of being the general manager. 167 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: This is the best of the Done Dot Lead Show 168 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. 169 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: What upout you Dog? Gottleep Show, Fox Sports Radio. It's 170 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: a Tuesday. We don't have any kind of alliteration with 171 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: a Tuesday? Do either? I mean taco Tuesday? Right? Should 172 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: we do? Take Tuesday? I mean just because I know 173 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: how much you hate but like making fun of alliteration 174 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: and just be thinking of one. Have one in your 175 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: back pocket there, Jay Stu, Doug Gottleib Show, Fox Sports Radio. 176 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: A reminder if you can hear us now, but you 177 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: can also see us Hello. Our Fox Sports Radio YouTube 178 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: channel has highlights from all the shows. Just click it 179 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: on whenever you want to hear great interviews, hot takes, 180 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: and all the fun stuff. All of our shows are 181 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: available the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. 182 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: I just thought of one. How about Moncey's Meanderings? 183 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Moncy, What am I doing here? 184 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: It's it's a new segment of our show called Moncey's Meanderings. 185 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: Meander So think about that. What is MEANDERINGE. 186 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Malingering is like have you ever been shopping and you 187 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: have no purpose and you go aisle the isle of 188 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: the isle and you're like, oh that looks good. Oh 189 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: this looks good and just keep going. 190 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do that all the time, wandering Okay, all 191 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 5: the time you have if she's ever been shopping? 192 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: That's like is that it's not even rhetorical question it 193 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: all day? 194 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, except except it would sound exceptionally chauvenus to go like, Mancy, 195 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: you're a woman, you go shopping all the time? 196 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: Right, ladies, be shopping, I be shopping all day. 197 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 6: I do. 198 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: I actually really enjoy grocery shopping. Uh, not a poorly 199 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: kept secret that that's one of my favorite pastimes. But right, 200 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: so the idea, I'm actually a little bit more focused, 201 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: like I know what I want and I have it, 202 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: Like I have the whole strategy of what I get 203 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: when I get it, and I go, i'll aisle, I'll 204 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: skip the aisle, I'll i'll you know. I do the 205 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: same thing with with when I go to a gas station. Obviously, 206 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: my main vehicle at home is electric, so I don't 207 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: have to do that when I don't like I actually, 208 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: does anybody else do this where I try and act 209 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: like at the pit stop and see how fast I 210 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: can fill up the tank? 211 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: Yes, hmm. 212 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: I always like if I have a rental car like 213 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: one of my kids with me, like time me, Like 214 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: what time me? See how fast I can do this? 215 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Like why is that important? Like I don't know because 216 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: it is anyway Moncey's meanderings And I'm just again just 217 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: flushing out here. We should do this off outside of 218 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: the show. But that's okay, It's better this way, is 219 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: jayse Dude, tell me what you're thinking. Like she just 220 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: goes to all of her different thoughts and they can 221 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: be movies, they can be music, they can be basketball, football, soccer, wrestling, 222 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: anything you want. Yeah, we just kind of put it 223 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: all together. It's Monzi's meanderings. 224 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: It's you know, meandering is basically just taking a winding 225 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: course to things, so you just don't get right to 226 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: the point and you just it's basically what Iowa Sam 227 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: does on the air every day on Falk Corse Radio. 228 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: I get to the point eventually, you know. 229 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: But his name doesn't start with an M, so it 230 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: would be Monsey's me hundreds by Sam. 231 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: You're in Wisconsin, Doug, a lot of meandering creeks and 232 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 5: rivers and streams. That's kind of I think of the 233 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 5: word meandering. I think of like rivers meandering around Ben's 234 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 5: and Yeah. 235 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: I think of meandering as when you're at a party 236 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: and you don't really know anybody at the party, and 237 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: you just kind of walk around and you do you 238 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: do the lap around the room, and you're like, you're 239 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: trying to not make eye contact with anybody because you 240 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: get pulled into a conversation. You don't know who that 241 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: person is, and you want to go like, hey man, 242 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: now are you dude? So you're just kind of meandering 243 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: and weave ye, get your beverage, sort of meander back, 244 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: standoff as oh I know somebody. Now I'm going in 245 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: and I'm having a conversation. 246 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you know, doing something in a rudderless way, you. 247 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: Know, rudderless way. It's really good. I like that. So 248 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 1: I saw this story and I wanted to discuss with 249 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: you guys. Lebron James picked up his player option to 250 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: remain with the Lakers, but it represents a calculated decision 251 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: that did not come without considering a move elsewhere, according 252 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: to John Hollinger of The Athletic. In fact, there were 253 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: whispers in the league circles about Lebron James having an 254 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: eye for Dallas reports, but the four time NBA champion 255 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: was not willing to pass on a fifty two point 256 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: six million dollar contract with the Lakers for a non 257 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: taxpayer mid level exceptions sign in Dallas, James would have 258 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: reunited with Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis, also having an 259 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to play alongside number one overall pick Cooper Flag. 260 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: James express belief that Flag will be amazing with the Mavericks. 261 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: So, uh. 262 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's dive in here. I call bull crap, right, 263 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we do this in college basketball. It's like, oh, 264 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: I could have had this guy, could have had that guy, 265 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: and not taking this guy. It was never an option 266 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: if you weren't if you were going to opt in. Ever, well, 267 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: Lebron James ever played for less than top down? Would 268 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: he ever play for less than ten million dollars or 269 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars? JASEU? Any chance, No, that's not that's 270 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: not him, okay, Sam? Any chance, no, moncy, any chance 271 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: you believed Lebron James had ever played Let's just say, 272 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the mid level exception is 273 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: at less than fifteen million dollars? No, okay, So it's 274 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: not an option. It's not an option. Right. This is 275 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: the guy going like, yeah, I could have thiken her out, 276 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: like she wouldn't have gone out with you? What are 277 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: we even dos? Whispers round the league starts like no, 278 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: there weren't. And again, I'm not telling you that that 279 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: John Hollinger is full of it. I'm telling the people 280 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: that are calling John Holland and like, you know he 281 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: thought about it. Here's the conversation of it. Rich, Can 282 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I go play in Dallas? Like yeah, but you had 283 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: to play for the mid level? Hell no? Can we 284 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: make it uncomfortable enough for the Lakers that they have 285 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: to trade us? We can try, right, we can try. 286 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: You know. 287 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: There was a player who again I was just during 288 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: one of the breaks, I got a text from a 289 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: guy who's helped me with a player who's from Belgium. 290 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I really liked him. I wanted to have him, but 291 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: they were asking for way too much money. He ended 292 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: up signing with another friend of mine, and I think 293 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: it'll be really good there for less than half the 294 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: money that he was asking for me. I can't sit 295 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: here and go like, hey, he should be on my team. 296 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: I should have him. At the time, he was working 297 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: with a different agency and they were asking for like 298 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: two three x of what we wanted to pay him, 299 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: So it's not really an option. It doesn't mean I 300 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: don't think it's true that he'd prefer to play. He 301 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: thinks that Kyrie and Anthony Davis that's much more his jam, right, 302 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: But it also proves what I've said time and again, 303 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: which is like, here's a dude who they hired a coach, 304 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: and do I think JJ is breting a coach? I do. 305 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: But do we think for one second JJ would have 306 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: gotten the Lakers job had he not been doing a 307 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: podcast with Lebron James. No, we don't. So you hired 308 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: somebody that he respects, that he works with, that he likes. 309 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of a contemporary. As the head coach, you 310 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: draft his son, you've done everything in your power to 311 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: make him and his people feel comfortable, and then you 312 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: make a trade where everybody and I feel like I'm 313 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: the only voice for reason, Like I don't think it 314 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: was as pronounced slam dunk dominant trade for the Lakers 315 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: as as the world would leged you to believe. But 316 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the people think the Lakers won 317 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: that trade. Maybe even one hundred think the Lakers won 318 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: the trade. It's a question of how much did they 319 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: Did they win it by a point or do they 320 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: win it by twenty five? And yet Lebron James is like, yeah, 321 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean he wants it out there. He'd rather play 322 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: for the Mavericks than play for the Lakers. That's what 323 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: he's saying. He's saying, if all things were equal, he 324 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: would rather play for the Mavericks. They're not equal, so 325 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't really want He's not willing to sacrifice to 326 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: play for the Mavericks, but he wants he'd rather play 327 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: for the Mavericks than play for the then play for 328 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: the Lakers. 329 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: Yet again, seems like every single story that comes out 330 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: of the Rich Paul Camp is we don't care about 331 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: your the Laker fans. I mean no, this is no 332 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: The only reason I'm playing in front of you for 333 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: the money. I would much rather be somewhere else. 334 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. And as we've said on this show, which 335 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: is that they should have they should have jettison Lebron 336 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: James a couple of years ago, they didn't because one, 337 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: there was a value. They felt like there was value 338 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: in having him break the all time scoring mark in 339 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: their uniform. But two, they were just all in on Lebron. Hey, 340 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: this is where he's gonna end his career. We're gonna 341 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: have his son here. Do whatever it takes to get 342 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: the most out of Lebron, and the repayment is Hey, 343 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: I Luca gets the ball more than me. He gets 344 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: to make decisions. I'd prefer to go do it somewhere else. 345 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: No thought of every Laker fan buying a Lebron jersey, 346 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: swallowing their pride as Kobe guys to buy Lebron jersey. 347 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Doesn't care, doesn't care, literally only staying in LA because 348 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: he has to because that's where he makes the most money. 349 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: So I also think this is one of those stories 350 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: that is the It's kind of classic Rich Paul trying 351 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: to create this. He'd rather be somewhere else. Is there 352 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: a way in which we can get him traded. That's 353 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: a great question. I don't know the answer to that one. 354 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't think the answer is yes, but it wouldn't 355 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: be crazy this late in his career. Remember, he played 356 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd was the assistant coach when they won a championship. 357 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is also wrapped by Lebron by Rich Paul, 358 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: and though he and Kyrie had a falling out, they 359 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: fell back in and there was talk of Kyrie coming 360 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: to LA before he ultimately went to Dallas. I love 361 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: this post mortem story of a contract that was agreed 362 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: to two months ago. Hey, if it wasn't for forty 363 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: five million dollars or forty million dollars in difference for 364 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy who's worth a billion dollars, he totally would 365 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: have come play for the Dallas Mavericks. I actually think 366 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: it looks bad on a multiple on a bunch of fronts. 367 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: It looks bad towards his relationship with the Lakers, towards 368 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: his amount of respect for Laker fans and accepting him, 369 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: and it even looks bad upon Lebron. Don't tell me 370 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: you want to play for somebody. Don't tell me you 371 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: want to play for championships, and then you're not willing 372 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: to sacrifice forty million dollars when you're worth thirty forty 373 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: X that that doesn't make any sense. 374 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 375 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: the nation yet. Catch all of our shows at foxsports 376 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 377 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show. Fox Sports Radio. So reputations are 378 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: really really hard to shed, right, really hard to shed. 379 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: And the Bengals have a reputation of being cheap. Now, 380 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals, you go back to when Carson Palmer was 381 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: their quarterback. Remember Carson before he got rolled up on 382 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: by Chemo Van Ohoffen signed the biggest contract in the 383 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: history of the sport. Now Carson retired and then came back, 384 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: not because of how much the Bengals were going to 385 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: pay him, more so for all the other stuff they 386 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: were accused of being cheap with. You know, Guyston State, 387 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: a hotel near the stadium night before a game, old towels, 388 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: no indoor, just the way in which they handled it, 389 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: and the Bengals gets twenty years ago. Bengals have been 390 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: digging out from that ever since. Now they got Burrow Chase, 391 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: and they put together a heck of an offensive lineup. 392 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: But you drafted defensive back in the first round who 393 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: to this point has not showed up in Shamar Stewart 394 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: and the guy who's led you in sacks the past 395 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: two years. Post a video of him leaving the state 396 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: of Ohio as he's holding out for a bigger contract. 397 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: Here's Mike Brown, the owner of the Bengals, talking about 398 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart's hold up. 399 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 7: If we get a player who gets involved in something 400 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 7: like that or does something that is just unacceptable, guess what. 401 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to pay him. 402 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 7: I really don't. If he's sitting in jail, I don't 403 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 7: think I ought to be paying him. And so we 404 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 7: say that if he got involved in conduct detrimental, we'd 405 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 7: have the right to terminate the guaranteed part for the 406 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 7: back years. As agent says, oh no, you can terminate 407 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 7: the guaranteed part only for the remaining part of the 408 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 7: year in which the event occurs. Oddly, something like this 409 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 7: has never occurred with us. I don't think it's going 410 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 7: to occur. So we're sitting here arguing over something that 411 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 7: I think is pretty remote, and I ask myself sometimes 412 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 7: why the hell we're doing it. But we are, and 413 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 7: he's doing it too, And at some point we got 414 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 7: to put this stuff behind and just get him up 415 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 7: here and get him so he can be a contributor. 416 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, look, at some point, I truly 417 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: believe this. And this relates to the Micah Parsons thing. 418 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: It relates to all this talk about fully guaranteed contracts. 419 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: Like so much of this stuff is agent driven, agent driven, 420 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: and what happens is you won't have You're not gonna 421 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: have owners or gms or coaches talk negatively about agents 422 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: because they fear the repercussions of agents going like, now 423 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: you're never gonna get my guy. We have the same 424 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: thing in college basketball, right we're dealing with agents and 425 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: if I were to, if I were to out agents 426 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: and something I disagree with what they're doing, there's a 427 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: sense of, well, man, now I'm never going to get 428 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: a guy from an agent, just not so he won't 429 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: say it. I will. What Mike Brown's talking about is 430 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: this all sufs ridiculous, Like we're not just going to 431 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: sign a guy to a contract and no matter what 432 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: he gets paid, nobody does it. We're not doing it. 433 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: If the guy wants to play football, we'll see him Monday. 434 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: It's no different than these the idea of having fully 435 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: guaranteed contracts, and of all teams would absolutely do fully 436 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: guaranteed contracts for like two years, maybe three. They tack 437 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: on the extra years a little bit to protect themselves, 438 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: but mostly for the agents. They can go like, hey, 439 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: look he signed for two hundred and fifty million dollars like, yeah, 440 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: it's like one hundred and twenty for three. No, no, 441 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: it's two fifty. That only helps the agent and the 442 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: agency go. The agent doesn't get paid more on it. 443 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: They only get paid their percentage based upon what the 444 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: player actually brings in, So that ain't it. Does it 445 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: help the team a little bit because you can do 446 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: some creative math and hide some money from the salary cap, 447 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: but eventually you're gonna have to pay that too. But 448 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: make no mistake about it. Hendrickson again, I'm sure he 449 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: wants too much for too long, but he's not going 450 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: anywhere because they own his rights. Even when his contracts up, 451 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: they can franchise tag him. He's not going anywhere. And 452 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart, you know, when you're a first round pick, 453 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: you got to start that clock in order to get 454 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: to being to be having your second contract. And he 455 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: can't start that clock if you're doing if you're working 456 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: out a text, A and M, and he has no leverage. 457 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: You know, it's floated out there that he go back 458 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: to the draft, and then they found out, actually he 459 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: can't go back to the draft. Stuck Gottlieb Show here 460 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, Jayceu, there were rumors that you 461 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: took yesterday off because you just you couldn't handle what's 462 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: happening with the Dodgers. 463 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: No, that's not me. That's not me. I'm not that 464 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: kind of fan. I take it personally, but I don't 465 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: do that. I face the music, you know, I come in, 466 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: I take all the all the bullets. So what do 467 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: you got for me? What's uh? What do you hate 468 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: most about the Dodgers? 469 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't hate about the Dodgers. I was just saying 470 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: they you know, the Brewers swept them, not once, but twice. 471 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: I just want to know if you're you're doing okay. 472 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: I think with Brewers are a better team at this 473 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: point than the Dodgers. They're the best team in baseball, 474 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: the best. 475 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: Right They're on fire. They're they're on fire right now. 476 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just like this is one of those 477 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you say peak too soon, but 478 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: they are peaking. 479 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: Maybe uh maybe next week. Wazy talk show producers and 480 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: hosts couldn't do the segment. Are the Brewers bad for baseball? 481 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: Have the Brewers ruined base That's John Middlecoff, let me run. 482 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: And get that. Okay, are the Brewers bad for Are 483 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: the Brewers bad for baseball? We'll do that next on 484 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: first take. That's baseball. I'm just rolling, rolling, I will be. 485 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I have like two weeks in between, but 486 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: taking next Wednesday off to do day game at American 487 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: Financial Field Cubs Brewers so and really, honestly, the real 488 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: reason I'm going American Financial Field is that what it 489 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: is our American family? What is the name? What is 490 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: the insurance company? I'm totally butchering it. I met the CEO. 491 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: Now I feel like an idiot, but that's okay. They 492 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: had the best popcorn in Major League Baseball American favorate field. 493 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: That's I thought, American fanfield so unbelievable. Popcorn unbelievable. John 494 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: Middlecoff joins us uh three now is The podcast also 495 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: has the Going Low podcast. I said this yesterday and 496 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: regards to Scottie Scheffler winning the Open Championship, the unsuperstar 497 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: superstar is one of those things that is relatable, but 498 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't really help the sport at all, Like it's 499 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: just at all, Like aug shucks, it's just golf. It 500 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: doesn't change who I am. I'm just a guy again. Great, 501 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: but doesn't sell the sport the way that support needs 502 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: to be sold. 503 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say it's not apples apples, But I 504 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 6: think he's kind of got like Jokic. You know anyone 505 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 6: and you know you're a basketball guy through infer you 506 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 6: watch and you're like, there's one of the greatest players 507 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 6: I've ever seen. But it's like, yeah, I don't really 508 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 6: care to do any media, any marketing. I just I'm 509 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 6: out once the season end. While I'm on the court, 510 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 6: I'll give you everything I have and I'll mostly if 511 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 6: my team's good enough to dominate. Obviously, Scotty controls. Bulk 512 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 6: is an individual sports. But everything else Nope, I mean 513 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 6: part of obviously Tiger you know, I mean in your lifetime, Doug, 514 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 6: I mean it will just say all the time, outlier 515 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 6: of just anything. I mean, he's one of the he's 516 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 6: one of the most powerful marketing machines. Where I would 517 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 6: say of the last seventy five years in that sport especially, 518 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 6: there's two guys Arnold Palmer and Tiger Woods and even 519 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 6: a little bit Greg Norman, the Sharks that transcend the sport. 520 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 6: I mean that's what Michael Jordan did, That's what Tom 521 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 6: Brady and Faydon Manning do. That's just not what this 522 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 6: guy does. He's probably, you know, I'm not old enough 523 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 6: to remember, like in the peak, like a Tom Watson type. 524 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 6: But there's kind of a boring aspect to him. And 525 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 6: he tells you like, don't expect anything else. I think 526 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 6: even speak. I mean, all these guys. Now, part of 527 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 6: it is some of these guys are calling off the 528 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 6: cliff so they make so much money off the course. 529 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 6: He's like, yeah, we do all this stuff on the Mondays, 530 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 6: and anyone that can go to YouTube you can watch 531 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 6: Tiger put on those clinics on Mondays because that's where 532 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 6: he was making all this money. The reason Tiger is 533 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 6: a billionaire is not because of one hundred million dollars 534 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 6: he won on the course. It was all this stuff 535 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 6: off the course. And now you know, you could argue 536 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 6: Scotty because the money is so outrageous. I mean, I 537 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 6: think he's made one hundred million dollars like the last 538 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 6: eighteen months, so it's like he'd argue, I don't even 539 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 6: need to do that stuff, which I don't want to 540 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 6: do anyway. 541 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: But I agree with you, but but the sport needs 542 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: him to do it, yeah, or. 543 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 6: They need you know, really Rory, you know, I would 544 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 6: say Bryson are more in that length. Got what's face 545 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 6: is just he's just not really gonna be if he 546 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 6: hadn't gotten arrested. I mean, we think he's boring now. 547 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 6: I mean that I added at least some you know, 548 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 6: some name recognition to the casual fans. 549 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: It's funny if you hadn't gotten arrested, that's it's very funny. 550 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: And he got arrested for literally like nothing, but regardless, 551 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: it's it's just amazing. Uh jumb Minkoffs our guest here, 552 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb show, Fox Sports Radio, what do you think 553 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: happens with the Bengals? And I bring it up. We 554 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: were talking about Shamar Stewart, like he didn't have the 555 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: option to go back to college. It's got to go there. 556 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: It very much feels agent driven, right, like you're trying 557 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: to change this language and contract and Mike Brown's just like, 558 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm not changing the language in the contract. How long 559 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: are we going to how long are we gonna do 560 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: this dance? 561 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of confusing. I mean I was reading 562 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 6: about it last night, it feels like other teams are 563 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 6: doing the same thing that Mike Brown wants to do 564 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 6: around that range. And he's like, I listened, We're talking 565 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 6: about if this guy goes to prison. Well, this isn't 566 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 6: that complicated here. I think these situations, I think there 567 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 6: are some parallels. Not you know, I'm not paralleling Michael 568 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 6: Parsons to the guys in Cincinnati, but both owners in 569 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 6: Cincinnati and in Dallas are essentially the GMS, and you 570 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 6: know they are. You know, Mike Brown usually doesn't talk 571 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 6: as much, but he starts talking. It becomes kind of 572 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 6: a chaotic situation. All these gms now and most of 573 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 6: these owners, most owners never say a peep, never say anything, 574 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 6: and they just go, hey deal. I'll give Jimmy has 575 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 6: them some credit. Remember when Miles Garrett went to the 576 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 6: Super Bowl and was like, I want to trade, and 577 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 6: then Rich Paul was like, we want a meeting, and 578 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 6: Jimmy Hasen was like, talk to the GM. That's his job. 579 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 6: That was it, you know. And I just think that 580 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 6: sometimes these agents, know what would the agents say yesterday 581 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 6: about Dick Tobin and Stuart's situation. He's I got the 582 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 6: above his pay grade. He's not running point on this 583 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 6: like geez, once he's become public, which doesn't happen as 584 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 6: much anymore, right, because social media becomes so magnified, you 585 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 6: just want to avoid this at all costs. Like negotiations 586 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 6: are hard as they are, but like TJ. Watt, I 587 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 6: would imagine that wasn't an easy negotiation behind the scenes, 588 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 6: but it was behind the scenes. And I think these 589 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 6: situations become so public and becomes so toxic that I 590 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 6: don't know, I don't know how you put the genie 591 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 6: back in the bottle once everyone's just so angry and 592 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 6: it clearly like it's not like this is dro Rosenhouse 593 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 6: for Tom Condon. You know, I don't know how well 594 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 6: this guy is first in the NFL landscape as an agent. 595 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 6: So it feels like it's getting worse before it's going 596 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 6: to get better. 597 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, you mentioned Jerry Jones. 598 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: I do think the one thing that's interesting that we 599 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 1: never bring up is it's like, be critical of Jerry 600 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: Jones for not, you know, signing Micah Parsons, although he 601 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: didn't even call him by the rate and right name 602 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: right Michael Parson. So showing his age. But we don't 603 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: factor in the very strong likelihood that Parsons is asking 604 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: for a ridiculous contract, and we're only critical of Jerry 605 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: for not signing him to a contract which is very 606 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: likely to be a ridiculous contract. 607 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, to me, my criticism would be just based on 608 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 6: the way other successful teams do business. Obviously, Jerry is 609 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 6: an outlier given he talks, I mean once the season starts, 610 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 6: multiple times a week, the radio show, and then after 611 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 6: games win or lose. You know, he like all these 612 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 6: situations are difficult. I mean, I've seen it with the 613 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 6: forty nine ers held a couple years ago, Nick bo 614 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 6: that came down to like the last week before the 615 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 6: season because he was asking for such a lot of 616 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 6: money and they were having tough negotiations. But it's a 617 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 6: pretty standard practice. If you hear a coach or a 618 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 6: GM asked about the negotiations, they go, yeah, we're just 619 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 6: going to keep that between the agents and the player. 620 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 6: And I think when Jerry, who just does what Jerry does, 621 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 6: just creates like what he said. You know, I'm newly 622 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 6: married guy, and you learn pretty fast, like everything you 623 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 6: think you don't need to say right something like what 624 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 6: Jerry said wasn't wrong. Micha Parson's miss games bast miss games. 625 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 6: We all know that, right, but he just it kind 626 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 6: of strokes the fire here goes thing. And you know 627 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 6: this in recruiting, like most guys, I think the average 628 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 6: age for a guy getting their first contract right past 629 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 6: you know, they've pass the rookie deal. So of getting 630 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 6: an extension, I would say is like average is twenty 631 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 6: four or twenty five years old. So you are dealing 632 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 6: with young men that are highly emotional, and the agent 633 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 6: obviously has his tentacles in him. So these situations Jerry 634 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 6: just makes him worse, and he obviously makes them really public. 635 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 6: It becomes like a you know, like an NBA headline, 636 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 6: But it wouldn't exist if Jerry didn't talk, which obviously 637 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 6: is not gonna happen because it feels like his favorite 638 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 6: thing to do is tell you about everything that's going on. 639 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: Now. 640 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 6: Granted says prerogative is a team, but I would imagine whenever, 641 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 6: and I'm not rooting for Garry to go anywhere, but 642 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 6: whenever Steven's in control and the point guy, the Cowboys 643 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 6: probably quiet down a little bit. 644 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, did 645 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: you know Philip Rivers wasn't retired? 646 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 6: I said that yesterday when I saw the headline, I 647 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 6: assumed he retired, like back when like Peyton Manning did that. 648 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 6: He's been gone forever. 649 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: We were talking about this before the show. I mean, 650 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: I think he's all a famer, but more than anything, like, 651 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: I just I don't feel cheated by the Philip Rivers 652 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: experience as a Charger fan, right Like, never got to 653 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Heck, I don't think they got to 654 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game, but I never. 655 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 6: Felt towards Al against the Patriots. 656 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. And he played with the torn ACL 657 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: and n LT didn't play and he had a minor neathing. 658 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean that's like the ultimate stuff, right Like, 659 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: played in an AFC Championship game with the torn ACL. 660 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: Now he was he was never a good athlete, so 661 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it really hurt him, but it did. 662 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: Could not have felt felt good having had a torn 663 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: a cl and then tried to go for a walk 664 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: with my dogs and stepped in a hole. It was 665 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: the greatest pain I ever felt in my life. So yeah, 666 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: I do, I actually do feel that, but I never felt, 667 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: never felt cheated by the by the by the by 668 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: the Philip Rivers experience. 669 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 6: Well part of it. 670 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 3: You know. 671 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 6: It was like a golfer. At any moment he could 672 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 6: hit it out of bounds. I mean threw some picks, 673 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 6: but he could also have games that would just like 674 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 6: this guy is such a badass. You know. He didn't 675 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 6: have a great arm, which I think led to some picks, 676 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 6: especially the little laden games when he was pressing. Uh. 677 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 6: I would say, it's kind of like the poor man's 678 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 6: Peyton Manning. But in terms of respect and like hall 679 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 6: of fame. To me, my standards are a little higher, 680 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 6: I think than most you tell me. He gets in 681 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 6: one day wouldn't be surprised to me, probably in the 682 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 6: haul of really good. I've always thought, though, Doug, that 683 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 6: you know, seeing some of these guys like Drew Bury 684 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 6: is a good example, awesome guy. If he was your 685 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 6: quarterback and you're stoked, right, he'd probably be an awesome 686 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 6: GM or an offensive coordinator. I just don't think he's 687 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 6: great on TV. I think, Philip Rivers, if you put 688 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 6: him in like the CBS, like just a crew, he 689 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 6: would be a star. You know, his passion, his energy. 690 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I think he would be so good and 691 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 6: he would kind of like what Romo did for his career, 692 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 6: but it even be different. I just think he's a 693 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 6: little more likable. I don't know, I think he'd be awesome. 694 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: You and I, you and I both. I mean he 695 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: used to we go down there for Chargers camp every year, 696 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: and you get done talking, You're like, I think he 697 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: might invite me for dinner tonight. You know, he just 698 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: has that warmth and that ability to make it. 699 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 6: I feel like I think he could be John Madden 700 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 6: as a player, you know, kind of that kind of personality. 701 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 6: Just I think he would have been a superstar on TV, 702 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 6: which he made so much money. He's got fifty kids. 703 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 3: I don't know if well. 704 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: I think he said he wants he loves ball, like 705 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: his dad was a coach, and he wants to coach. 706 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: So he's like coaching high school ball. 707 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 6: And I think it's kid good, right, I mean I 708 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 6: think it's like fifteen year old or sixteen year old. 709 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: One of them has one of them has to be good. 710 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: Just the numbers tell you that one of them has 711 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: to be good, right exactly. I mean they're probably not 712 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: all good, there's got to be one that's like, now, 713 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: now he's shaving his tongue with the razor right, like multiplicity. Uh, 714 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: but I don't. 715 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna really old. We're gonna feel really 716 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 6: old with it. You know. It's one thing Cooper's son 717 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 6: is good, but like, yeah, when Philip Rivers or Matt 718 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 6: Stafford has a kid that's like draft eligible, you're gonna. 719 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: Be like, oh my god. 720 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well Philip Rivers could have like an entire offense 721 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: be all his kids. That might be Yeah, I'll be fascinating, right, 722 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: jumpin a cuff. The Three and Out is the podcast. 723 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: Check it out on the Volume podcast Network. John, thanks 724 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: so much for joining us do Stug Gottlieb show here 725 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. You know, the only thing about 726 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: and I probably could ask John about this one, but 727 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: the only thing about this crew. I think Sam is 728 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: the one guy who we connect on this is like, 729 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: this is the hardest week and a half. But once 730 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: you get to August, you're starting to get excited about 731 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: college football. 732 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: Definitely. 733 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 5: And we have acc Media Days, big ten Media Days 734 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 5: coverage on right now, so we're ramping up, we're gearing 735 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 5: up here, and it is almost when we're in the 736 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 5: second half of July here, the month is gonna be 737 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 5: over before we know it. And just seeing these these 738 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 5: coaches and players representing their teams at these media days, 739 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 5: you're like, yep, college football ride. 740 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: Are on the one is so weird though, right, Like, okay, 741 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: so now we have a playoff, but the leagues are 742 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: very different. Some you don't play teams you used to playing. 743 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: You do play teams you're not used to playing all 744 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: the most of the teams are brand new. You know, 745 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: you get like fifth team padded practice. Then you're playing 746 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: a game. 747 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 6: Uh. 748 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: Now you can survive an early season loss, whereas previously 749 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: you couldn't remember they have week zero in week one 750 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. Like I don't even know 751 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: which week is week zero. I think is August thirtieth, 752 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: week zero? No idea, but man, I I start when 753 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: once I see an eight at the start of a month. Immediately, 754 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: all I can think of is, well, college football, college football, 755 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: August twenty third is when it kicks off. Yeah, August 756 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: twenty You've got some state in k State in Ireland 757 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: conference game. 758 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Ireland College fork Airlin is college fool Classic but 759 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 5: it will it'll count as a conference game. 760 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: So they don't get a little appetizer. 761 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: Nothing really that stay. 762 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: She doesn't get excited for it the way we do. 763 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: We're like geeking out about it. 764 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 5: Kansas, that's not bad. The rest of a Stanford, Hawaii, 765 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 5: it's okay. It's a little appetizer.