1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's voice news. This is Sunday The 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Road Forward. This week, the Senate passed the Big Beautiful Bill, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: with the Vice President Jadavan's casting the deciding vote, which 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: pushed the bill by the way back to the House 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: for final ratification. And the University of Pennsylvania decided to 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: ban trans athletes from women's sports. This was after a 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: federal investigation into Leah Thomas. The University of Pennsylvania will 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: now enforced Trump's men date to ban men from women's sports. 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: This strips Thomas of his records, titles, and other recognitions. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: A big, huge win for women everywhere and what amazing 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: weekends we celebrate America. All this and more on this 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: edition of Sunday The Road Forward has always had a 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: word of hope and encouragement for you and those you love. 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your host our special 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: guest joining us this week. He's best selling author, popular 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: conference speaker, and senior pastor of the Great Presleywood Church 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: in Plano, Texas. 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: Doctor Jack Graham's with us. 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: He's the President of American Values and Senior vice president 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: for public Policy for the doctor Jamie Stobson Family Institute. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Gary Bauer's back. He is a consultant for the United 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: States and Israeli relations. Jurie Steinberg is with us and 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: she's a mega popular author, speaker, and podcaster. Howdie Saint 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: John is back. Thanks for watching. 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: Head by God. 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: This week, the University of Pennsylvania has agreed to write 27 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: its wrongs, restore records to female athletes, and issue an 28 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: apology to the women impacted by the man Leah Thomas 29 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: they allowed to compete as a woman. Also, the Supreme 30 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: Court shut down government in doctrination, siding with parents who 31 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: refused radical gender ideology in schools. Bottom line, parental rights 32 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: are non negotiable. You cannot override parents deeply held beliefs 33 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: or force their children into radical gender ideology. This week, 34 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: the Senate passes the Big Beautiful Bill, with the Vice 35 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: President Jade Vance casting the deciding vote, which pushed the 36 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: bill back again to the House for final ratification. Stephen 37 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: Miller said this, I'm sick and tired of the lies 38 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: about the bill. This is the most conservative bill in 39 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: my lifetime. It went on to say, tax cuts, defense, 40 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: border security, homeland security, welfare reform, and the largest spending 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: cut in one bill that's ever been enacted. Hey, and 42 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: President Trump is brokering peace around the world as we 43 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: celebrate America. While America is a perfect she's still the 44 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: greatest nation in the world. As people of faith, we 45 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: know that our rights don't come from government. That come 46 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: from God. Our hope, our strength, by the way, comes 47 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: from the Lord. Here's a great verse to hold on 48 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: to this week. 49 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: Psal. 50 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm thirty three, Verse twelve. 51 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Get 52 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: ready as we jump headfirst into our discussions here on 53 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: Sunday the Road Ford. 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All over the country 106 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: people are celebrating the fourth of July. Hey, what's happening 107 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: at the Great Preston Wood Church this weekend? I know 108 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: America is not perfect, but we're still the greatest nation 109 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: in the world. 110 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: And God's doing something. 111 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: No doubt about it. And at our church we are 112 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 5: very patriotic, and for example, we have a Veterans ministry 113 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 5: that is working tirelessly to impact the lives of veterans 114 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 5: and their families, reach veterans for the Gospel of Christ. 115 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 5: That's a very important one, but we've already in fact, 116 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 5: we jumped out ahead. We always do the fourth of 117 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 5: July spectacular patriotic service God and country, however you want 118 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: to describe it. The Sunday before the fourth so we 119 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 5: pay our respects to the armed forces and seeing their anthems, 120 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: and have military come in, we sing God bless America. 121 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 5: And that's not all that unusual. But today sometimes that 122 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 5: gets challenged and people want to say, well, you're mixing 123 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 5: religion with government or you're overly patriotic. Well, we love Jesus, 124 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: he is our king, He's first and foremost. But because 125 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 5: we love Jesus, we love our country. And I believe 126 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 5: we're better citizens because of Christ, and so I believe 127 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 5: we should and I always encourage pastors to appropriately honor 128 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 5: the country and to pray for our leadership and to 129 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: be a part of the future of America, not just 130 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 5: the past. 131 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Jack, my father was a pastor for nearly sixty years 132 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: in the hills of Central Pennsylvania. He was a World 133 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: War Two veteran served in the South Pacific on the 134 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: USS Pennsylvania kissed the ground when he got back to 135 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: state side. He said, Tim, I was so happy, and 136 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: I promised God I'd served him for the rest of 137 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: my life. But Jack, he loved God and country, flew 138 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: a flag in our yard till the day he died. 139 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: My perspective on the flag changed. One day, Jackie was 140 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: at my dad's funeral when they gave him military honors, 141 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: and they folded the flag up, and they gave the 142 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: flag to my older brother Jimmy. I'll never forget that moment. 143 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: It reminded me that we stand on the shoulders of 144 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: those who are bold and courageous. Jack, you have a 145 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: lot in your heart to honor those who fight for 146 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: our freedoms, especially our religious liberty. 147 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 5: Exactly, and it's one of the most important, I believe, 148 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: the most outside of national security itself, religious freedom, and 149 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 5: it is freedom that is given by God, not government. 150 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: But religious freedom is the key issue for America in 151 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: these days, and I'm so grateful for President he gets that, 152 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 5: he understands it. You know that we've worked with him. 153 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 5: He has given us everything we have asked for in 154 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 5: terms of our freedom to speak and to strike down 155 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: those who would limit the freedom of speech and religious 156 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: speech in particular, and the freedom of religion. Without that 157 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 5: First Amendment, we're not a country, but we're a great 158 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 5: country because it is built on the foundations of faith, 159 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 5: and specifically faith in Jesus Christ. And we need to 160 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 5: teach that to our children. You know, next year is 161 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 5: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America, and our 162 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: church is going to go all in. In fact, we 163 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: launched it this fourth of July. We are going to 164 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 5: be all in on teaching biblical foundations, on highlighting our history, 165 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 5: praying for America, working on the issues of America. We're 166 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: going to spend the next three hundred and sixty five 167 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 5: days from July fourth today or on July fourth, da 168 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 5: year to July fourth in twenty twenty six, and I 169 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: would really encourage pastors and churches to think about this 170 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 5: and not miss this opportunity. And again we're going to 171 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 5: do it appropriately. We're not going to turn the church 172 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 5: over to government issues, but we are going to talk 173 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 5: about morality issues and religious freedom issues. We're going to 174 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 5: have a major service at God and Country next year 175 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: with Michael W. Smith and others. So it's a great 176 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 5: time as Christians. We have a window here. We have 177 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 5: an opportunity, with the current atmosphere and environment, led by 178 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: President Trump, to truly be a light in the world 179 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 5: and to shine that light on a hill that Ronald 180 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 5: Reagan talked about Jack. 181 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: This week, there was a white House call with National 182 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Faith Advisory Board leaders and Jack was pretty impressive. President 183 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: Trump had to fight through some craziness upfront with AT 184 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: and T who couldn't get the thing to work, but 185 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: everybody stayed on. The President stayed in there, and Jack, 186 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: it was moving. I wanted some takeaways from you about 187 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: from that call itself. 188 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: When you listen to President Trump or when you are 189 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 5: with him, as some of us have had the privilege 190 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: of being with him, he is truly a friend of 191 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 5: the faith family in America. He's one of us. I 192 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: truly believe. People ask me, I'm sure you all the time. 193 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 5: Is President Trump a Christian? Well, he certainly professes his 194 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: faith in Jesus, and his life, of course, was dramatically 195 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 5: impacted by the near assassination. I believe that drew him, 196 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 5: as he has stated, even closer to the Lord. So 197 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 5: when we're with him, when we first met him, what 198 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 5: eight ten years ago, and I've known him since I 199 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 5: was pastor down in West Palm Beach, the Palm Beach area, 200 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: but you know, he didn't know us very well. But 201 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 5: now he knows us and he respects us and his 202 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: team around him. That's the other thing. We have to remember, 203 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: the team from the Vice President Marco Rubio and others, 204 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 5: his press secretary. You can go on and on. These 205 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 5: people are followers of Jesus, and the whole administration is 206 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 5: welcoming to people of faith. And so the call was 207 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: just another example of his willingness to know us, to 208 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 5: express his love and for the Lord and for our country, 209 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 5: and to support our churches and people of other religious 210 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: faiths as we talk about religious freedom, whether it was 211 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 5: rabbis or others. So it was a great call. It 212 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: was epic, but just another example. And I don't know 213 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 5: how you felt about it, Tom, but again, he just 214 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 5: seems so at ease with us now, I'll use those words. 215 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: He is at ease with us, he understands us, and 216 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 5: he's willing to be our president. 217 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: And Jacket, what I really appreciate about him is he's 218 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: willing to listen and have that kind of meaningful conversation, 219 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: dialogue and more. And he, like you said, he is 220 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: a friend, a real friend of the faith community. Open arms, Jack. 221 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: That uh was really evident with the Faith Office being 222 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: positioned inside the White House itself there in the West Wing, 223 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: and then establishing that Religious Liberty Commission, and then that 224 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: anti Christian biased task Force and more. He's serious about it. 225 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: He wants to protect faith in America. You go back 226 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: a few years ago, Jack, things are looking pretty pretty 227 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: dark for faith leaders. I mean, weaponizing the systems of government. 228 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: You're talking about targeting our religious groups and more. It 229 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: was serious, Jack, We were, we were we were in 230 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: a spin. 231 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: It was dark, Yeah, we were. We were spiraling for sure. 232 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 5: But it just shows that God is in control. Right. 233 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 5: We honor President Trump, and we certainly give him credit 234 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 5: for for so much of this, But I believe God 235 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 5: is not finished with America, and that God is moving 236 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 5: among Christians and churches. We see it with young people. 237 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 5: Bible sales among young people are up up, not only 238 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 5: here but in the UK as well at other places 239 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: around the world. It's an opportunity. We have a window, 240 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: and I believe God is expecting us to step up 241 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 5: courageously to the challenge. Just as an aside, we have 242 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 5: a Pastor's conference here at Prestonwood that I'm leading in 243 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 5: October of this year of twenty twenty five October twenty 244 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: one and twenty two, and the title of the conference 245 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 5: is Strong and Courageous, because I want us to challenge 246 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: pastors and church leaders at this conference to be strong 247 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: and courageous in the light of the opportunities that we 248 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 5: are given in these days. So anyway you can help 249 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 5: us pass the word about this conference, We would love 250 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: to have senior pastors along with associate pastors and ministry 251 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 5: leaders and church leaders here at Prestonwood on site in 252 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 5: the Dallas Fort Worth area October twenty first and twenty second, 253 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 5: because pastors need to lead the way and we need 254 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: to challenge one another to step up to the opportunity 255 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 5: and the responsibility that we have. 256 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Doctor Jack Graham, always great to have you. 257 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me. 258 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 5: Thank you my pleasure. 259 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: Tim coming up next. 260 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: He's the president of American Values and senior vice president 261 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: for public Policy for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. 262 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: Gary Bauer's back. 263 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 6: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 264 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 6: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 265 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 6: part of your life. 266 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: Join us now. Is Gary Bauer. 267 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Bauer serd in President Ronald Reagan's administration for eight years 268 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: as Under Secretary of Education and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. 269 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: Today he serves as president of American Values and educational 270 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: nonprofit organization and senior vice president of public Policy for 271 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. 272 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: Gary, welcome back. Good to see you, my friend. 273 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 7: Thank you, Tim. Great to see you too. 274 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: Happy forth of July. 275 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Gary, I was reading one hundred and fifty million hot dogs. 276 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: That's how many hot dogs were eaten on the fourth 277 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: of July. They say between Memorial Day and Labor Day, 278 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: seven billion hot dogs are consumed. Gary, did you have 279 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: a hot dog? I don't know I had. I think 280 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: I had two. 281 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 7: I got to watch my cholesterol, Tim, So the hot 282 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 7: dogs I can eat are they're not worth eating? But 283 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 7: at any rate, I understand the spirit of it though. 284 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, hey, Gary, bold and courageous leadership. I was 285 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: reflecting on the fourth and what it must have been 286 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: like back in July fourth, seventeen seventy six, and the 287 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: courage again, the character, the boldness of those leaders willing 288 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: to band together and stand against the tyranny they were facing. 289 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: Gary. 290 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: But as you reflect on I know your historian, and 291 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: you love this and you love our country. But just 292 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: some takeaways from you as we go through this weekend. 293 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 7: Well, Tim, you know we're both patriots, we both love America. 294 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 7: I always get a little emotional on the fourth of 295 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 7: July because it's such a wonderful thing to be blessed 296 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 7: by God to be born here. There's so many places 297 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 7: around the world where one could be, but to be 298 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 7: born in this country is to get a great head 299 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 7: start in life. I also have I get said too, 300 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 7: on the fourth of July, because we've got a lot 301 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 7: of young people and there's a lot of research about this. 302 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 7: They haven't been taught the great wonder of America. They 303 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 7: don't know how unique the country is and how our 304 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 7: founding documents when they were written were saying things that 305 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 7: people around the world had never heard before things that 306 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 7: would make us shining city upon a hill. So I 307 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 7: have a lot of mixed emotions, but one of the 308 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 7: things I know we both care about is this effort 309 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 7: by President Trump to reinvigorate American education in order to 310 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 7: teach our children why they're living in a great country 311 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 7: and why it's worth defending our country. 312 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: Gary, think of the brilliance that was there with those 313 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: founding fathers as they put together the Declaration of Independence. 314 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: You think of our Constitution, the Bill of Rights so 315 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: much more, and no wonder there was such an effort 316 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: to erase history, if you will, and to like you say, 317 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: almost in doctrinate our kids, take them away from just 318 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: a general understanding about what freedom is all about, what 319 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: religious liberty is all about, why it's so important to 320 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: the backbone of our country. 321 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 7: Gary, Yes, yes, you're absolutely right. Look, the central idea 322 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 7: of America is in the second paragraph of the dekclo 323 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 7: rat of Independence. It's about twenty two words. And the 324 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 7: left today hates these words. We hold these truths. Now. 325 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 7: See they don't like the word truth. That's a problem 326 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 7: for them right there. The left claims there is no truth. 327 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 7: Everybody has their own truth, but It goes on, obviously, 328 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 7: to say we hold these truths to be self evident, 329 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 7: that all men it means all mankind, that all men 330 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 7: are created equal and endowed by their creator, not by 331 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 7: their government, by their creator, and that's God, the God 332 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 7: of the Bible. They don't like that either, endowed by 333 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 7: their creator with certain unalienable rights. It means rights you 334 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 7: can't give up and they can't be taken away. And 335 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 7: among these are the right to life, liberty, and the 336 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 7: pursuit of happiness. That's the central idea of America. It's 337 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 7: been an indictment of tyrants everywhere. I don't believe you 338 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 7: could be an American child, even if you were born here, 339 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 7: let alone came here as an immigrant. I don't believe 340 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 7: you could be an American child unless you know there's 341 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 7: twenty two words and understand what they mean. 342 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: Gary. 343 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: Through the years, we've heard so much about separation of 344 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: church and state, just ridiculous that nauseum, you know, and 345 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: completely misinterpreting what was really meant by all that. But Gary, 346 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about today there are some out there who say, yeah, 347 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: not celebrate our country in our churches, you know. On 348 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: the fourth of July, weekend or something. And we understand 349 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: that our rights, like you said, come from God. But 350 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: my goodness, Gary, people want to brandish people as Christian nationalists, 351 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: all this insanity, etc. But just kind of some words 352 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: from your heart to pastors and to Christian leaders out 353 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: there to stand bold and courageous and unashamed of God 354 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: and country. 355 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 7: That's it's a great question. Tim. Look, if you're astor 356 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 7: and you're watching or you're listening, none of us want 357 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 7: you to worship America in your church service. We want 358 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 7: you to worship God. That's what the church is for 359 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 7: and his son, Jesus Christ. But you are a church 360 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 7: and a pastor in America in a country that you 361 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 7: don't have to worry about the secret police coming into 362 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 7: your church and dragging you out of the congregation. You 363 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 7: can preach what you want. This is a wonderful gift 364 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 7: as Christians we've been given to be in America. Now, 365 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 7: if somebody gives you a new car, would you let 366 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: it get dirty and never clean it? Would you not 367 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 7: protect it from damage? Would you let somebody mess it up? 368 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 7: You'd be an ingrate if you allowed a wonderful gift 369 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 7: of a new car to be harmed in that way. Well, 370 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 7: if you don't remind your congregation of the blessing of 371 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 7: America of how America's founding ideas are biblical ideas, well, 372 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 7: that would make you an ingrade. And I don't think 373 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 7: any pastor wants to be an ingrade. If you love America, 374 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 7: by the way, and you love Jesus, that's a description 375 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 7: of about ninety percent of America for an entire history 376 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 7: of our country. So that doesn't make you a Christian nationalist. 377 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 7: It just makes you a patriotic American Christian. 378 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: Gary, When I reflect on the Founding Fathers again, and 379 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: they wanted to get away from that tyranny themselves, and 380 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: they were pursuing religious liberty and more. You fast forward 381 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: to what we experienced over the last few years, and 382 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: it was pretty rough, weaponizing systems of government. You saw 383 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: people of faith being targeted by the government, brandishing them 384 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: as wanting to silence, shame them, put people in prison, etc. 385 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: Gary, that's awful. 386 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: Contrast that with this past week, President Trump joined a 387 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: call with faith leaders here in our country and openly 388 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: a friend of people of faith and standing staunchly for 389 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: and with religious liberty in this country, making sure that 390 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: we never go back into that kind of insanity all 391 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: over again. 392 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: Gary, that's a big deal. People need to understand how 393 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: big of a deal it really is. 394 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 7: No question about it. Tim. Look, this president is the 395 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 7: most pro religious liberty president in modern American history. And 396 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 7: it wasn't that many years ago, a little maybe around 397 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 7: a decade, when it was it was impossible to count 398 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 7: five votes on the Supreme Court that would uphold religious liberty. Well, 399 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 7: Donald Trump has three appointees on the Court, and now 400 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 7: it's easy to count six, a solid majority on the 401 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 7: Supreme Court to uphold religious liberty in all sorts of ways. 402 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 7: He's getting to bereocracy to examine their own actions, to 403 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 7: weed out any anti Christian sentiments in the federal government. 404 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 7: He's put believers all over the federal government. There are 405 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 7: Bible studies that take place in every government agency. Not mandatory, 406 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 7: of course, but we have multiple members of the cabinet 407 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 7: are Bible believing Christians and they invite people to their 408 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 7: office to study the Bible together. The list just goes 409 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 7: on and on and on. So this is a dramatic 410 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 7: change from what we just had a couple of years ago, 411 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 7: when the previous administration was sending FBI agents into church 412 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 7: services to monitor what was being preached. I say that 413 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 7: now it's even hard to imagine that that happened in 414 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 7: the United States of America. 415 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: Always great to see you, my friend. Go easy on 416 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: the hot dogs, haha. Bless you Gary, Thank you for 417 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: joining me. 418 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 7: Great to be with you, Tim. 419 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Coming up next is a consult for the United States 420 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: and Israeli relations. Jurie Steinberg is with us. 421 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 8: Don't miss the world's premier Christian counseling conference event, the 422 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 8: twenty twenty five AACC United World Conference. 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He currently 447 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: works as a consultant connecting Israeli and American faith based organizations. 448 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: He also serves as director of City Serve Israel, a 449 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: branch of the Global Church Humanitarian network City Serve International. 450 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 2: You're what ad like to have you. Thank you for joining. 451 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 4: Us, Thank you so much, Thanks for having me, Doctor Clinton. 452 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: As we get started. 453 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: Your responsibilities there with Israel over the last few years, 454 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: tell us about that and now this new position with 455 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: City Serve Israel. Obviously there's a lot going on in 456 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: the Middle East, and we have talking a lot about 457 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: your personal journey, but just professionally, some people know who 458 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: you are and your role and function. 459 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: Sure, I guess I was called to some extent to 460 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: be a conduit, be a connector between the Jews here 461 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: in Israel and in America and the Christian world. We've 462 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: been living in a society where Christians and Jews have 463 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: been a part for too long, and I think it's 464 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: up to us two people like me and others two 465 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: be sure we create those bridges after many years of misconceptions, 466 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 4: many years of being a part. So I'm honored to 467 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: serve in various roles and try to be this conduit 468 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: and try to be this mediator and get us closer together. Obviously, 469 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 4: the last two years since October seventh have been quite 470 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 4: a test, and I can say that I'm super proud 471 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 4: to be working with pastors, with leaders with time and 472 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 4: time again in the last two years, I have proven 473 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: that their love for Israel, their love for the Jewish 474 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: people is above and beyond. So obviously we'll speak about 475 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 4: the challenges of here being in Israel, but I think 476 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: this is just a renaissance for Christian and Jewish relations, 477 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: unfortunately due to these circumstances. And yet it's incredible to 478 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 4: see how pastors and leaders are stepping up urad. 479 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: Over the last few weeks, all lives have gone to 480 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: the Middle East is and everything that's been going on 481 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: over there. Of course with Iran and President Trump pulling 482 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: off that incredible secretive but the successful military exercise where 483 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: they went in and bombed the Israel Iranian nuclear sites. 484 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: But hey, back and forth and the missiles, and we're 485 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: constantly seeing up on social media pictures of quote, you know, 486 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: this happening, that happening, and the stories of running into 487 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: bomb shelters and more. 488 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: You live in Tel Aviv. 489 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you on a personal level, what's 490 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: it been like for you and your family? 491 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: You know, I think we're all very tired. Right even 492 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: before Iran started, My kids have been going through this 493 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: reality of being in danger from the hoodies, from ramas, 494 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: from Risbola for the last almost two years. So I 495 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: think there is a there is a level of you know, 496 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: people are are fatigued and are looking to start something new, 497 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: and then and then we had Iran. But what you know, 498 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 4: on one hand, I think we are obviously we're afraid. 499 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: We understood that this is a whole new ballgame. You know, 500 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: Iran is not from us. And there was a level 501 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: of definitely, you know, being frightened running down to the 502 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: shelter several times a day and during the night. That 503 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: definitely takes a toll. You know, there's and there's no 504 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: doubt that kids, we will need some time to recover 505 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: from it. And yet there is something that you see 506 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: time and time again, which is the incredible resilience of 507 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: the people here in Israel. And you know how people 508 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 4: step up for each other, whether it's in your own 509 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: building and your own community, just neighbors that you don't 510 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: even know that are reaching out and to help people. 511 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: So there's something extremely frustrating about going on run, having 512 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 4: a family and living a quote unquote normal life in 513 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: an unnormal situation where you have to explain to your 514 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: kids why do they hate me so much? And it's 515 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 4: not an easy discussion to have. At the same time, 516 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 4: you know, my heart bursts from how proud I am 517 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 4: of my family, of my community and my people of 518 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 4: being so resilient and honestly winning this hatred and this 519 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: evil around us. 520 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: You're we're fighting time a little bit here. But the 521 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: City Serve International Israel position that you have and the 522 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: humanitarian efforts that are going on over there quite impressive. 523 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: You talk to us about what you're doing for people 524 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: who are displaced, how you're helping children, and you're building 525 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: a sports complex and more. But God's doing some amazing things, 526 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: and you've got a lot of people coming around you 527 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: wanting to support your efforts. 528 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: Yes, you know. After October seventh me and I'm about 529 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 4: my buddy. A pastor told Lamfair from Faith Advisory Board, 530 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 4: we came to Israel and we knew we need to 531 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: act and act fast, and we decided to take a 532 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 4: sliver of the Pie community that was three miles away 533 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 4: from Gaza, more than thousand people that were as refugees 534 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 4: in a hotel, and we decided to adopt this community. 535 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 4: And for the last almost two years, we've been helping 536 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 4: with so many projects and one of the main questions 537 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: that we've asked is what's your priority? What is the 538 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 4: number one thing that you guys want us to help. 539 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: And what we got back was very firm, and there 540 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 4: was no doubt about that. We need to help bring 541 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: our kids back to normalacy. We need to make sure 542 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 4: that this entire area that was hurt in October seventh 543 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: feels that it's okay to go come back. And we 544 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: do it through bringing kids back to play and that's 545 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 4: you know, play therapy. That's the way for kids to 546 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: get back and being kids again after such horrific times. 547 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: And I'm so proud that we were able to help 548 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: this community in so many different ways. And now what 549 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: seems to be are in the main pillar of our 550 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 4: activity is building a sports complex, pure and simple, three 551 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: miles away from Gaza, new pickable courts that are full 552 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 4: every night, basketball, soccer, tennis, ninja training facility. And what 553 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 4: he does it really elevates the spirit of the people. 554 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 4: And what it also does other communities nearby And you know, 555 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: are you talking about a community mile two miles down 556 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 4: the road are taking part of that And you know, 557 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: it's another piece of the puzzle. If a family says, 558 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 4: should I come back to this home all right? That 559 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 4: was attacked on October seven. Having a place where your 560 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 4: kids can go out, having a place where you can 561 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: register your kid for a tennis lesson is just another 562 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: one of those missing pieces of normalcy. And what people 563 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 4: have decided in this in this region, and I'm so 564 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 4: proud that they're seeing Christians by their side helping them 565 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 4: out is they're choosing life, and they're choosing to go 566 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 4: back and to rebuild their life stronger and better. And 567 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: when they see pastors and it's the first time that 568 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: they've seen pastors in their life coming to them every month, 569 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: hugging them, loving them, donating to them, you know, the 570 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 4: impact that he does is just out of this world 571 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 4: and it's rebuilding this area in Israel that really needs love, 572 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: that really needs attention these days, and it fills their 573 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 4: heart with a lot of pride. 574 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: If people want to learn more about that project URI, 575 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: where can they go City Serve International slash Israel. 576 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 4: City Serve dot Us. We're on the homepage or Cityserve 577 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: dot Us slash Israel. You can learn all about what 578 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 4: we're doing there. Unfortunately, these days, we're also in a 579 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: position that we need to help out a lot of 580 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: the families in the center of Israel that are now 581 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 4: evacuated because of these massive Iranian rockets that have hit 582 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: their houses. So you have, just in Tel Aviv, you 583 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 4: have two thousand families that are out and about. So 584 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 4: we're sending them food, We're sending them toys, we're sending 585 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: them hygiene products. So that's another kind of front that 586 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 4: we're operating on as well. 587 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: Jerry, what I'd like to have you, We'll pray for 588 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: and with you. Urie Steinberg, thank you for joining me. 589 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 590 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: Coming up next. 591 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: She's a mega popular author, speaker, and podcaster. Hidie Saint 592 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: John is back Johnny snow is Heidi Saint John. She's 593 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: best selling authors, speaker, podcaster, mom of seven children, best 594 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: known for her Mom's strong book collection. 595 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 2: Heidi, welcome, Thank you for joining. 596 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 9: Me, Thank you for having me. It's great to see hat. 597 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: He's been wild week or so. 598 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: Here all eyes went to the Middle East President Trump, massive, 599 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean secretive and incredible military response with those strikes 600 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: on those nuclear facilities there and I ran, but HATI 601 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: it's just been an amazing whirlwind. But you know, there's 602 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: some real pluses in this thing. Just for a moment, 603 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: think about the military strength and people are talking about 604 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: how America is back. 605 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 2: America is back. 606 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 10: Well, we're respected in the world again. We just saw 607 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 10: this at the United Nations recently. World leaders who were 608 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 10: mocking President Trump just three months ago now are having 609 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 10: to admit that man, his leadership on the world stage 610 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 10: is actually needed and the world is safer today as 611 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 10: a result of American of the Americans engaging in what's 612 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 10: happening in the Middle East. 613 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 9: Listen, we've been on the receiving end of the bullies 614 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 9: of Tehran. 615 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 10: For forty years, and every president for the last several 616 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 10: administrations in my lifetime that I can think of, I said, oh, 617 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 10: we're going to do something about this, We're going to engage, 618 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 10: and they simply don't do it. President Trump was the 619 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 10: only president to have the courage and the moral fortitude 620 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 10: to do what needed to be done, and he did 621 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 10: it with precision and strength and courage. What a time 622 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 10: to be an American. Really, I'm proud of him. 623 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: HETI we learned it on the playground as kids. You know, 624 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: when you have a bully, the best thing he understands 625 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: is a good punch in the nose. You hear what 626 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying, You got to go right at him. I 627 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: just want you to address this whole issue of peace 628 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: through strength. A lot of people's talking about it, but 629 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: from your perspective, what does it mean? What do you 630 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: think it means to Mama Bears and people over the country. 631 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 9: Well, I think it. 632 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 10: Means that we instead of acting on our emotions, we 633 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 10: act on our convictions. We act with moral courage and 634 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 10: moral fortitude. We saw Barack Obama. You know, they were 635 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 10: bullying when Barack Obama was the president, and his solution 636 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 10: was to give him money. Well, what happens when you 637 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 10: give a bully on the playground what they want, when 638 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 10: you give them the sucker of the kid that they're terrorizing, 639 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,240 Speaker 10: They're just going to come back and ask for more 640 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 10: the next time. And Barack Obama knew that. And we 641 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 10: know that in the last administration, Joe Biden knew you 642 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 10: couldn't do anything. That guy couldn't even tie his own shoes. 643 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 10: And so now we're seeing what it means to lead 644 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 10: through strength. Now Iran knows if you mess with the 645 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 10: United States, if you threaten death to America, we are 646 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 10: going to take out your nuclear capabilities. On the news, 647 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 10: I heard President Trump say if you do this again. 648 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 10: If you try to enrich uranium again, the results will 649 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 10: be devastating. And guess what now they believe him. Now 650 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 10: they believe him. And so I think we are going 651 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 10: to see a time of extraordinary movement in the Middle 652 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 10: East toward freedom for the Iranian people, beautiful people over 653 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 10: in Iran who have been terrorized by the Islamic regime 654 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 10: there now for many, many decades. And I think finally 655 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 10: we're seeing hope because the United States is leading through 656 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 10: strength Heidi. 657 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: In the miss of it, the President made a move 658 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: to broker a ceasefire agreement between Israel and Iran. Well, 659 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: there's been some bumps in the road, ere etc. Probably 660 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: some rogue military personnel, et cetera. But this thing, you know, hey, 661 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: we're praying that God will let this thing stick, you 662 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and that something meaningful will come 663 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: about in the Middle East. Hodey, just your take on 664 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: You've got some naysayers inside our country who really going 665 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: after Israel. You know, they say in the Maga group, 666 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: was you know, being split down the middle over all 667 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. But just your take on where 668 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: you think God wants and how people of face should 669 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: be thinking about Israel and more. 670 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 9: Well, the Bible is really clear, and it's astonishing to me. 671 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 10: I was just at my friend, Pastor Jack Hibbs church 672 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 10: in Chino Hills recently and we were having this conversation 673 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 10: over lunch, and it's astonishing to me the turn of events, 674 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 10: especially in the Maga movement here in the United States, 675 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 10: as it relates to evangelical Christians who really should know better. 676 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 9: And the Bible is very clear. 677 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 10: You know, God's words says I'm going to bless those 678 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 10: who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. 679 00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 9: This is I do not. 680 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 10: See subscribe to replacement theology Israel. When God said Israel, 681 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 10: he meant it, and he didn't replace Israel with the Church. 682 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 10: Today we have been grafted in according to the word 683 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 10: of God because of the sacrifice of Jesus, and so 684 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 10: as believers, we need to pray for the peace of Israel. 685 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 10: We need to pray for the salvation of Israel, and 686 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 10: we need to support Israel. It doesn't mean that we 687 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 10: support everything that. 688 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 9: The Israeli government does. 689 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 10: Just like as a United States citizen, I don't support 690 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 10: everything that my government does. 691 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 9: For goodness sake, in the United States. 692 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 10: We have abortion legal in this country up until forty 693 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 10: weeks and I don't support that. But I love my 694 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 10: country and I pray for my country, and I pray 695 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 10: that it would come back to the Lord. That is 696 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 10: what we should be praying for Israel. We should be 697 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 10: supporting Israel, praying for Israel. And President Trump is standing 698 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 10: in the gap where Christians used to be and President's 699 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 10: Trump is standing in the gap for Israel right now, 700 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 10: and I'm praying for there to be a change. We 701 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 10: are seeing a rise of anti Semitism, and honestly, I 702 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 10: mean this is part of our discussion day. 703 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 9: I've been talking to friends all over the country about this. 704 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 10: I think the war in Ukraine has really soured Americans, 705 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 10: as it rightly should have on our interventionist activity overseas, 706 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 10: particularly as it relates to where we send our money 707 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 10: and our men. But I think the Ukraine war has 708 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 10: really made people We're just tired. People are tired of it, 709 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 10: and not all wars are the same. And I think 710 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 10: we need to look at Israel through a biblical lens 711 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 10: and also through what they are only real ally in 712 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 10: the Middle East, and we need to be careful how 713 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 10: we talk about Israel. 714 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 9: And how we respond to them. 715 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 10: I frankly, I'm encouraged by what I say happening with 716 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 10: President Trump, who stood up against the MAGA movement, which 717 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 10: a lot of them folded like a cheap dollar bill. 718 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 10: It was amazing to watch, really amazing. 719 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: How do you say, John, thank you so much for 720 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: joining me, Thanks for having me. 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Know that 762 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: God loves you and that God wants to be in 763 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: your life. I hope our strength comes from the Lord. 764 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: Even as a nation. There's a great encouraging verse to 765 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: hold onto this week Psalm thirty three, verse twelve. Blessed 766 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: is the nation whose God is the Lord. 767 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 10: Up. 768 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: You know also that you can look to God for 769 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: wisdom and direction in your everyday life. Let me also 770 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: say this, I've learned as a professional counselor that is 771 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: normal to have concern, maybe some fear or worry, especially 772 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: when life's not the way it's supposed to be. I've 773 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: also learned too that if you're not careful, it can 774 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: begin to consume you, control you. It's pretty easy to 775 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: lose perspective, maybe even hope. It can get so dark 776 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: for some they would feel like life would be better 777 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: off without them. I say this every week. You don't 778 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: have to live like that. Simply taking a step reaching 779 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: out for help it's often the gateway to a new 780 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,280 Speaker 1: day or a new you. And if you are someone 781 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: you love is struggling, I hope you'll do that reach 782 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: out for help. There are wonderful counselors and pastors who 783 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: care who can help you find the hope answers that 784 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: you're looking for, and a lot of wonderful resources out 785 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: there too. I'd love to connect you with some of them. 786 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: You can simply go up on our website at AACC 787 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: dot net. That's AACC dot net. If you want to 788 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: get connected with a Christian mental health provider, you can 789 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: go at our new website called christiancareconnect dot com christiancareconnect 790 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: dot com. If you don't have a personal relationship with 791 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: God in Christ been born again, you know what you 792 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: can do that right now by asking God to come 793 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: into your life. Ask him to forgive you of your sin, 794 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: your brokenness, come into your life as Lord and savior, 795 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: simply praying a prayer from your heart to God's like this, Lord, Jesus, 796 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: I need you. I know that I've broken your laws. 797 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm a sinner and I believe you died for my sins. 798 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: I want to turn from them and invite you into 799 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: my life. I want to trust you and I want 800 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: to follow you as my Lord and Savior. God, thank 801 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: you for loving me, forgiving me and forgiving life to me, grace, forgiveness, 802 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: the gift of eternal life. I pray all this in 803 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: the strong name of Jesus. 804 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 2: Amen. 805 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: You know what the Bible says in Romans ten nine. 806 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: It says that if you confess with your mouth that 807 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: Jesus is Lord, and you believe in your heart that 808 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: God raised him from the dead, is what the Bible. 809 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,760 Speaker 2: Says, you will be saved. 810 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: The best thing you can do if you prayed that 811 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: prayer from your heart to God's heart is to commit 812 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: to serve Him for the rest of your life. He'll 813 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: give you the strength to do it. They'll give you hope. 814 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: If you're struggling with hopelessness though maybe you're lost, you 815 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 1: feel like you're in a pit you can't get out. 816 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: Hope you'll pick up the phone and just call the 817 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: Suicide Prevention Lifeline. That number is nine eighty eight. That's 818 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. Before we go, Maybe God's 819 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: gifted you with a heart to help other people. Maybe 820 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,959 Speaker 1: someone helped you. Hope you'll consider being a part of 821 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 1: our Mental Health Coach first Responder program. 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