WEBVTT - 2021 Dolphins Roster Evaluation, Tua Spin and Zip Talk and Possible Player Extensions

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<v Speaker 1>Cut down, Miami art drawn, What is Up? Dolphins? And

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins. How's

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<v Speaker 1>it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And

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<v Speaker 1>on today's show, we've got a bit of a pot

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<v Speaker 1>luck of Dolphins topics to cover, and boy am I

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<v Speaker 1>excited for this one. We're gonna revisit the white board

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<v Speaker 1>with a roster review. We're gonna talk about the guys

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<v Speaker 1>who could be up for possible contract extensions next season,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna talk about arm strength and playbooks, and

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<v Speaker 1>if we have time, we're gonna cover some of the

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<v Speaker 1>veteran free agent signings who were brought in post the

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<v Speaker 1>first few weeks of free agency for some film reviews,

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<v Speaker 1>the John Jenkins, the DJ Fluker's, the Jason mccordie's of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, all of that and more on this edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Drive Time Podcast. Well, it's been a minute

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<v Speaker 1>since we talk Dolphins fans. We had the podcast yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>with Colleen Wolf, but that was pre recorded before Memorial

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<v Speaker 1>Day weekend, and before we really get started here, you

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<v Speaker 1>know this Naomi Osaka story, the tennis player who was

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<v Speaker 1>fine for missing her press conferences, and then went out

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<v Speaker 1>and put a tweet out there saying that she has

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<v Speaker 1>struggled with anxiety and these very high anxious moments with

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<v Speaker 1>these press conferences, that she needs a moment away from

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<v Speaker 1>tennis and kind of work on her mental health. It's

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<v Speaker 1>getting so much run and I tweeted about it on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to use this space again to just

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<v Speaker 1>say a couple of things. Number One, mental health above all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we're kicking this podcast off with this topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Those of you that have been with me on this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Slash, my previous podcast since the very beginning, have

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<v Speaker 1>heard my story and I've gone back to that topic

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<v Speaker 1>quite a lot because it strikes close to home for me,

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<v Speaker 1>as mental health complications led to the loss of a

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<v Speaker 1>loved one, my mother, who was the most compassionate, best

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<v Speaker 1>person I've ever met in my entire life. So the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I bring this up is to kind of tie

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<v Speaker 1>it all together more real day weekend was the ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>reconnect for me. The disconnect really the pursuit of balance

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<v Speaker 1>and which I just I can't recommend enough how valuable

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<v Speaker 1>that is. My wife and I took a night away

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<v Speaker 1>from the little One from Caroline, our baby daughter, our

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<v Speaker 1>one year old daughter. For the first time since she

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<v Speaker 1>was born in May of last year, we spent the

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<v Speaker 1>night up in Bellevue, Washington, which if you're not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the Pacific Northwest, if I had to make a comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say Bellevue is too is to Seattle what

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Lauderdale is to Miami. And if you're ever out

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<v Speaker 1>in the Northwest, make it a point to visit the

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<v Speaker 1>son Katie a Resort. It's about an hour southeast of Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the photo that I shared on Twitter was

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<v Speaker 1>just absolutely stunning views like three golf courses, wineries. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute maven for summer activity. But that balance Man

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<v Speaker 1>and Naomi Osaka serious serious admiration for her for the

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<v Speaker 1>recognition of her own mental health, needing some attention and

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<v Speaker 1>stepping away. And that's what I was able to achieve

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend because on Monday we went to a friend's

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<v Speaker 1>house for a pool party and barbecue, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to swim around with Caroline and that was just about

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing I've ever done. She was laughing and

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<v Speaker 1>smiling and splashing around. You just can't beat that and

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<v Speaker 1>here we are super super refreshed on this podcast because

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<v Speaker 1>of that. So finding balance is the ultimate key. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also just want to make this note, don't hold

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<v Speaker 1>athletes two different standards than the general population. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>impervious two emotions or struggle the standard pushback I see too,

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<v Speaker 1>that is well, that's part of the job. Bullshit, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Every person DIZ deserves to be treated with the same

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<v Speaker 1>level of respect and common courtesy, regardless of profession, race, creed,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the category. People are people. All right, that's my

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<v Speaker 1>diet tribe. Let's get to the football here and start

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<v Speaker 1>with this. The white board, you guys, know, the white board,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that I keep alongside my desk. Here, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the roster, the schedule, I've got some color coordination

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<v Speaker 1>that goes along with it. And I've been doing that

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<v Speaker 1>since I don't know, two thousand six, and obviously in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen it was a bit of a challenge to

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<v Speaker 1>find those blue players. Blue Chip players are guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are elite players at their position, the best of the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the best. And the only blue player I

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<v Speaker 1>had on that nineteen team was Xavian Howard. Coming off

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<v Speaker 1>that eighteen season, where he led the NFL in interceptions

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<v Speaker 1>despite missing nearly a quarter of the season. I've also

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<v Speaker 1>got a Green category that's the above average, good solid

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<v Speaker 1>players that you want to have on your roster. Orange

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<v Speaker 1>is average or slightly above average, a guy that contributes,

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<v Speaker 1>and every roster needs these players. My purple category is

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<v Speaker 1>my most multifaceted. There's just the veteran presence guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been a journeyman in his career, special teams,

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<v Speaker 1>aces and developing players who are late round draft picks

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find their way. Those guys typically wind up

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<v Speaker 1>in that purple category and then my red categories, where

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be in danger of not making

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. So in twenty nineteen, that last descriptor wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>easy because you always have to have fifty three guys,

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<v Speaker 1>right Like, you can't just say we're going with forty

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<v Speaker 1>five this year. But starting off the season, that roster

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't have fifty three guys who came without a

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<v Speaker 1>red designation. Hence all the roster activity we saw in

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<v Speaker 1>September that season. Remember how many waiver wire claims there

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<v Speaker 1>were for this Dolphins team, whether it was bringing in

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even like Johnson Batamosi from the trade for

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<v Speaker 1>the Lawn Meetunsel trade. Like getting those kind of guys

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<v Speaker 1>into round out your roster. That's what Miami had to

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<v Speaker 1>do because they were just that bereft of guys that

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<v Speaker 1>they thought could play, especially early on that season. So

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<v Speaker 1>for this year, and keep in mind, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>about a long term projection. It's simply how I think

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<v Speaker 1>the player will perform this year. It's an evaluation and

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<v Speaker 1>projection project. I've got four blue chip players that I

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<v Speaker 1>expect to play at the top or at the very

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<v Speaker 1>near the very top of their position in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But that green area, that's where I think you win

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of games and make your runs in January

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<v Speaker 1>and have your sustained success that Stephen Ross talked about

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty nineteen. And of course these guys can

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<v Speaker 1>eventually develop into blue players in terms of some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the guys, for instance, I have a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>who's a green player who I think becomes blue very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>You might know who that is. I love Jillen Waddles game.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't make them a blue off the top.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is an area where we have I think

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<v Speaker 1>five or six guys in the green category in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine team. Last year that number climbed up to tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>But this year seventeen green players and eleven of those

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<v Speaker 1>are on defense. One of them is a quarterback to

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you guys want to know that that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a little sidebar there. Then I've got eleven orange players,

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<v Speaker 1>so I remember that orange is above average, and anything

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<v Speaker 1>above orange, orange, blue, or green is where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be on my list. And that gives us thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two players who are either orange, blue, or green. That

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<v Speaker 1>means you've got thirty two guys are not just deserving

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<v Speaker 1>of rep but guys that give reps with the expectation

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to win the majority of their individual matchups.

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<v Speaker 1>You win of your individual matchups, you're gonna be an

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<v Speaker 1>orange players. It's above average and again a nearly three

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<v Speaker 1>increase with thirty two players in that category since three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. Wow, it's a big jump. And so to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it up with the purple category, which ideally is

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom fifteen to eight team players on your roster.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have a roster full of blues. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>how this world, this this league, or this world works.

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<v Speaker 1>But more realistically, it's probably in the twenties for most teams.

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<v Speaker 1>That twenty nineteen Dolphins team, for instance, would have had

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<v Speaker 1>probably thirty thirty five of them. So we've got thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two of the fifty players, and this is specialists excluded,

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<v Speaker 1>So no Jason Sanders in that category. And you need

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<v Speaker 1>what eighteen purple players, I've got twenty three. So what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? That's fifty five of the fifty players

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<v Speaker 1>and purple or better. Remember how in twenty nineteen the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphin is made again all those signings and a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that were cut from other teams. The shoe

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<v Speaker 1>was on the other foot. Now players will get cut

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<v Speaker 1>by the Dolphins in September and they're gonna make other rosters,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them will probably play good football elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in one. That's where you want to be as a

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<v Speaker 1>roster where you can't fit everyone in because you've littered

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<v Speaker 1>the nine man roster and eventually your fifty three man

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<v Speaker 1>roster with talent. And that's the portion of this process

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins are in right now, and that specialist caveat

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<v Speaker 1>None of those guys were included here. But we know

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<v Speaker 1>the kicker is blue Jason Standards was All Pro last year.

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<v Speaker 1>The definition of a blue player, and I'm pretty damn

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<v Speaker 1>bullish on both the long snapper and the punter too.

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<v Speaker 1>So after including the specialist, here's the final tally. Five

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<v Speaker 1>blue players, eighteen green players, twelve orange players, and eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>purple players. Not bad, not bad at all. Shifting gears.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as we drop it down and engage the drs

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<v Speaker 1>and go flying around the outside for the overtake and fit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this pod with our best lap. Another good problem

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<v Speaker 1>to have, and the product of that last segment, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>acquiring a bunch of really good football players, is that

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<v Speaker 1>eventually those chickens they come home to roost from that

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<v Speaker 1>rookie deal into a second contract. And looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>roster man that ten draft, along with some guys brought

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<v Speaker 1>in later on shorter deals who could be up for

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<v Speaker 1>new contracts at the end of this season. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we see across the NFL every summer, these deals can

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<v Speaker 1>get done before they're expired. Right, So I've got four

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<v Speaker 1>guys that I think fall into this category, guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I think have earned themselves that next deal, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami or somewhere else, because we know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a tough business and you can't get them all paid

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<v Speaker 1>and go out and spend on the open market. And

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<v Speaker 1>granted Miami again, a tip of the cap here to

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Career, Brandon Shore, and the entire Dolphins front office

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<v Speaker 1>for building in the flexibility with the roster and cash

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<v Speaker 1>commitments so they can put themselves in position to make

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<v Speaker 1>moves in future years and this year and just continue

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<v Speaker 1>to roll that sustained model down the road. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins are right back in the saddle next year in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of cash to spend in that offseason. Will they

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<v Speaker 1>do it? Who the hell knows, man, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a great position to be in. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to do is talk about these guys

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<v Speaker 1>the upside of that potential new deal and one reason

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<v Speaker 1>for pushback, not saying I agree with that reason, but

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<v Speaker 1>just for the sake of objective viewpoints and giving you

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<v Speaker 1>a good fleshed out conversation here, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and have that pushback, and then I'm doing them

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<v Speaker 1>in order that I would get the deals done and

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<v Speaker 1>explain that as I go along. Sound good? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a secondary group that is also four names long,

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<v Speaker 1>will do them in their own grouping after this first group,

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<v Speaker 1>So guys that are a couple of years away, but

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<v Speaker 1>something to think about for the future. So this first

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<v Speaker 1>group batting leadoff m up. Next is linebacker Jerome Baker.

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<v Speaker 1>The case for Jerome talk about the straw that stirs

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<v Speaker 1>a drink man. You guys, remember the Channing Crowder podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I did back in again more callbacks back in March

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<v Speaker 1>of right before the pandemic hit. I had Channing on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast and he raved about all the stuff Jerome

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<v Speaker 1>does in this defense and one thousand and snap player

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<v Speaker 1>coverage run defense, and oh buddy, all the blitzing he does.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently rewatched the Kansas City game from last season,

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<v Speaker 1>and that sack where he dumps Mahomes for thirty yard

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<v Speaker 1>loss is vintage modern day linebacker stuff. The change of

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<v Speaker 1>direction he can match up with backs and tight ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the chaos his first step quickness and flat

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<v Speaker 1>out speed and great angles to the quarterbacks, all the

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<v Speaker 1>chaos that causes on this Dolphins defense. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of a lot of those takeaways. He's worn

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<v Speaker 1>the green dot, he's been a captain. He's a great dude. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>find a nicer guy than Jerome Baker. I dare you

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. He's still unbelievably young. He hasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>hit his twenty fifth birthday yet. I think his best

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<v Speaker 1>football is ahead of him, and he's a tremendous, tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>culture and scheme fit. Now is there a case against him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough to find one. But if Bernardrick McKinney kind

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<v Speaker 1>of occupies that role that, I suppose you can justify

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<v Speaker 1>not making the big contract offer. But you also want

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<v Speaker 1>to have irons and the fire behind these types of

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<v Speaker 1>players to give yourself the freedom to not put yourself

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<v Speaker 1>out over your skis financially to go out and make

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<v Speaker 1>those extensions, because if you can find a guy for

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper than you do it. But the likelihood that you

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<v Speaker 1>can place that production I don't know. I mean, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think Duke Riley is the closest comparison to

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<v Speaker 1>Jerome's skill set on the roster, and then sam Ego

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<v Speaker 1>Van ran a similar role back in so he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>in that mix as well. But it's not really a

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<v Speaker 1>good case against because Jerome is just different and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's just scratching the surface on what his game

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<v Speaker 1>is and can become. Now, this next one here I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you, guys, is gonna make you give me

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<v Speaker 1>the old Tim Allen Travis. We just signed this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's William full of the fifth the case for I've

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<v Speaker 1>made no secrets about how I feel about Fuller's game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a complete receiver with speed, run after

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<v Speaker 1>the catch, intelligence to know how to make adjustments in

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<v Speaker 1>game on the fly. On his routes, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>wins the full route tree. Hell. Matt Harmon, who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast back in March, The Reception Perception Project, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the best receiver charting websites out there,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it is the best. For my money, had him

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<v Speaker 1>with a plus winning percentage on every single route in

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<v Speaker 1>the tree except for the deep out, which was still

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<v Speaker 1>league average, but he he dominated every single other route.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his skill set jives with what TA does well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an immediate separator with strong hands that can attack

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<v Speaker 1>both inside and outside leverage. He puts defenses in a bind.

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<v Speaker 1>He forces a safety over the top, which creates space.

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<v Speaker 1>He also puts a ton of pressure or takes ton

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure. I should say off a player who I

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to be the next explosive, dangerous, defensive

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<v Speaker 1>structure destroyer in Jalen Waddle. I'm actually not sure any

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<v Speaker 1>pair in the NFL complements each other better than than

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<v Speaker 1>Waddle and Fuller, and I don't take that lightly. So

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<v Speaker 1>Will is here on a one year prove it contract

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<v Speaker 1>after he showed the entire NFL last season that man,

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<v Speaker 1>he can assume that number one role. He can command

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<v Speaker 1>double teams attention in the red zone and on third

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<v Speaker 1>down and still average nearly one hundred yards per game

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<v Speaker 1>and nearly a touchdown per game. I mean pro rate

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<v Speaker 1>that over seventeen games. We're talking about a sixteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard receiver and like a fifteen touchdown guy. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good production right there. I think, if he stays healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the best receivers in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And you watch his development. I cover this back on

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<v Speaker 1>his free agency podcast, how he grew from a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of screens and swings and curl routes back in his

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<v Speaker 1>rookie season and now he runs the whole damn route tree.

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<v Speaker 1>He's refined, he's polished. He talked about how he worked

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<v Speaker 1>on that when I had him on the podcast back

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<v Speaker 1>in March, and this is kind of a giveaway as

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<v Speaker 1>to who I had as the other blue player on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the segment earlier talking about which players are blue, green,

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<v Speaker 1>and orange, call back again, and I think if he

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<v Speaker 1>can prove those things are consistent, you feel pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>about making him and Waddle a long term fixture together

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<v Speaker 1>here in Miami. The case against it, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>just covered it really health. He played fourteen games as

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie ten seventeen, seven and eighteen. He got hurt

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<v Speaker 1>against us that year. If you remember the Thursday night

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<v Speaker 1>football game where he was going off before the a

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<v Speaker 1>c L. He played eleven games in twenty nineteen and

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<v Speaker 1>then played all eleven games last season before the suspension hit,

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<v Speaker 1>a suspension that will hold him out of the season

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<v Speaker 1>opener in Foxboro. Can he stay healthy? That's the one

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<v Speaker 1>case against will Fuller in my opinion. And the last

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<v Speaker 1>player of our first crop here is tight end Mike Gisicky.

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<v Speaker 1>The case for Gasecki really plays a slot receiver position.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been in line less than ten percent of his

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<v Speaker 1>reps post rookie season. Remember, he was, in my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>and excusably used inside a lot in that rookie year.

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<v Speaker 1>He's better than six inside the slot in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>his workload. So when you go to the negotiating table,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be interesting in terms of what position does

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<v Speaker 1>this guy actually play? But we've seen what Mike does best.

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<v Speaker 1>He scores touchdowns, He draws favorable matchups and exploits them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big play tight end who was at the

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<v Speaker 1>top spot or in the top three pretty much all

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<v Speaker 1>season long among tight ends in yards per reception. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice compliment to the smaller players we just talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone that can take advantage of all that space

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<v Speaker 1>that we talked about that Waddle and Fuller can create.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and DeVante Parker I think are your best beneficiaries

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<v Speaker 1>of that space created. Now the case against him, I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we go towards Fuller and Waddle prototypes,

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<v Speaker 1>is that what you want the entire receiver cord to

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<v Speaker 1>look like? Or do you require that balance and versatility

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<v Speaker 1>your basketball lay up with your power forwards and your

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<v Speaker 1>centers to go along with your one and two guards.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's the case the former, then Mike e. G

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<v Speaker 1>isn't your guy. But I mean we saw him do

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<v Speaker 1>really well in the contested catch game, and that happened

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<v Speaker 1>with two of just as much as it did fit.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not a quarterback problem. See the touchdown against

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs or the one handed stab against the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>for proof like two can fit those type windows that

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<v Speaker 1>he can make those catches. But maybe his full potential,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's probably in the ten million dollars per year range,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's maximized with an offense that does put a

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<v Speaker 1>higher emphasis on the yolo balls the shots, an offense

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<v Speaker 1>that's not so keen on the timing precision and immediate separation.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's a fascinating topic and a tough decision

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<v Speaker 1>for really the entire roster in the front office, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why these guys get paid like they do to

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<v Speaker 1>make these tough decisions. So that's my four, all four

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<v Speaker 1>deserving of big contracts at some point and in that order.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we've got some guys that I listed in the

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<v Speaker 1>too early to make that decision category, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth mentioning here. Miles Gaskin comes in first. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in year three out of four. I think the upside

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<v Speaker 1>there is you're probably gonna have cost control because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>running backs just aren't getting paid right now. But also

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<v Speaker 1>Myles Gaskin, he broke out last year in a big way,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still miss some games and maybe you get

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<v Speaker 1>the upside of his potential coming up. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>cost control, I think it's a high, high floor player,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know what you're gonna get with Myles Gaskin

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<v Speaker 1>because of the way he prepares and because he's just

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<v Speaker 1>always produced going back to his freshman season at Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think talking about the hard work and the

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<v Speaker 1>way he commits himself to the game, he is a

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<v Speaker 1>purveyor year of the Dolphins culture that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have here. That's gonna be a theme for these next

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<v Speaker 1>three guys as well. Christian Wilkins year three of four

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<v Speaker 1>with that fifth year option creates chances for others on

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, which is a very unsung job that he

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<v Speaker 1>executes beautifully. He's positioned diverse, he's been very durable, he

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<v Speaker 1>almost never missed his time, and he's a culture purveyor,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Myles Gaskin, so was Andrew Van Ginkle. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's way too early here because he's played what five

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<v Speaker 1>games his rookie season, then last year as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>man if he takes another step and improves his game

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<v Speaker 1>upon the things we improved last season. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge fan of Gink from his college tape

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<v Speaker 1>at Wisconsin and the spot drops in the route concept

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<v Speaker 1>recognition where he would find bodies intead of grass when

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<v Speaker 1>he covered guys. But then he goes out and develops

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<v Speaker 1>multiple pass rush moves. He starts clabbering blockers and route

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<v Speaker 1>to tackles for loss and run stops and just made

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<v Speaker 1>himself into a complete player in relatively short order. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an undersized fifth round draft pick with one year of

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<v Speaker 1>college production at Wisconsin, a JUCO transfer who had injury

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<v Speaker 1>problems in college. But you look at all that combined.

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<v Speaker 1>The trajectory on this guy with so much more football

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of him is just insane. Not to mention the

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<v Speaker 1>special team's value. I mean, he blocked a punt last

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<v Speaker 1>year that put Miami on the one yard line to

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<v Speaker 1>score a touchdown in the first three minutes of that

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<v Speaker 1>Charger game. And all of these guys from that nineteen class,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're all from that twenty nineteen class, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>some time, but I think it's definitely worth monitoring and

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<v Speaker 1>My final guy here is kind of Will Fuller esque

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of we just signed him, but it's Matt Skura.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on a prove it deal for sure. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about his tape on the podcast. You go back

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty nineteen. This guy was playing at an all

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<v Speaker 1>pro level that year and really last year. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>his tape was good too before the snap Isshho came up.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's reached blocking Cameron Heyward, who was in that

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<v Speaker 1>Top Pressures article by Doug Ferrar. He's absorbing bull rushes

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<v Speaker 1>from stefon to it again. Another call back to that

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<v Speaker 1>article at the top pass rusher at that position. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a nasty finisher two man. He plays with a temperament.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't know it from my interview with him talking

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, the air Max, the dad shoes and

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<v Speaker 1>barbecue and all that fun stuff that kiss the cook apron.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is a nasty player on the field. We

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.439
<v Speaker 1>heard coach Lemiel John pr talk about detailed discipline and nasty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Matt Skura. I think he's gonna be again a

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<v Speaker 1>purveyor of the culture. That's a theme here. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>my group. A fun topic, A fun discussion. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>quite have time on this podcast with a veteran film review,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's coming. I want to make sure we have

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<v Speaker 1>a full, dedicated topic and segment to it. I promise

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming. The Dragons, they are coming. Instead, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to close with this a topic that's been making its rounds,

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, this offseason, and we get bored here in

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<v Speaker 1>June talking about football. I mean, how many more Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers discussions do I have to watch on national television shows? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the playbook stuff and the arm strength stuff

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<v Speaker 1>from the quarterback position. And I want to start with

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<v Speaker 1>the playbook stuff here. Have you ever seen what a

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<v Speaker 1>page of an NFL playbook looks like. Each player has

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<v Speaker 1>a paragraph really describing their role, how to react to

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<v Speaker 1>adjustments there changes in their role based upon alerts or

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<v Speaker 1>checks to counter what the offense or the defense is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a quarterback and for any signal caller, your centers,

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<v Speaker 1>your mic linebackers, your safeties, and of course your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to know the roles of all eleven players

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<v Speaker 1>so they can get the guys into the right spot

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<v Speaker 1>when you make a check at the line. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I see this Burrow and Herbert didn't seem to have

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<v Speaker 1>an issue with the playbook and their rookie You're first

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<v Speaker 1>off to h and Burrows numbers were nearly identical except

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<v Speaker 1>in the win lost category, which, by the way, to

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<v Speaker 1>us expected UH points added average was better than both

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<v Speaker 1>he and Herbert. And he also had a better fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter passer rating. So kid knows when winning time is on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the point I've made all off season. But

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<v Speaker 1>to the point, and really Burrow is in this category too,

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<v Speaker 1>because like to UH, he more frequently wins with his

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<v Speaker 1>i Q anticipation, timing, touch, rhythm, feel and just that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of winning football and winning moments. He did it

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<v Speaker 1>all year that final year at l s U, and

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<v Speaker 1>we saw at times this year with the Bengals as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But feel and accuracy and those types of things are

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<v Speaker 1>more prevalent than raw traits like arm strength, and those

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks take a little bit more time to hit their peak,

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<v Speaker 1>guys that excel between the ears more so with than

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<v Speaker 1>than the hundred five mile hour fastball, which has its place.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to explain to you here in a

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<v Speaker 1>minute why it's not like the end all be all.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you have these insanely gifted guys like Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>or Josh Allen or even Jordan's Love last year who

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<v Speaker 1>had ridiculous raw traits, and like Justin Herbert who with

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<v Speaker 1>the arm strength. The idea has always been that the

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<v Speaker 1>physical traits can win early while they developed the other

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<v Speaker 1>part of the game. So quarterbacks like Burrow and Twa

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<v Speaker 1>the best is yet to come. It's just like Drew Brees,

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<v Speaker 1>who never one time in his entire life has thrown

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty yard out route on a frozen rope to

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<v Speaker 1>the far hash. He never did it because he can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but that's who cares. He still managed to

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<v Speaker 1>throw for more yards and more touchdowns than anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of football, So I'll take that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think there's a bit of a miscalculation on two

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<v Speaker 1>things here. Number one, what arm strength at actually is

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<v Speaker 1>and what it actually does on a football field. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it has value. Everything you can do on a football

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<v Speaker 1>field has value. Do not get me wrong there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's maybe the sixth or seventh most important thing because

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<v Speaker 1>you can you can mitigate what arm strength does in

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<v Speaker 1>other areas of the game with that rhythm, timing, anticipation

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<v Speaker 1>and elite level accuracy to throw away from leverage. And

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I wanted to look at was a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>like Mahomes who has that oddly elastic arm that can

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<v Speaker 1>slingshot the ball all over the field. I found three

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<v Speaker 1>clips over the last three seasons where he grooves these

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yard passes over the middle of the field as

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<v Speaker 1>they descend down towards their target, where he's not throwing

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<v Speaker 1>fastballs through their chest. So when I posted that clip

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<v Speaker 1>from the Chief's game last year where to a it's

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<v Speaker 1>third and ten, the pocket kind of collapses as he

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<v Speaker 1>looks down field and he drives a throw that is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yards beyond the line, thirty yards in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>and he drives it low and away from the defender.

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<v Speaker 1>He's throwing off the leverage of the lead defender and

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of the trail defender, and it fits a tight

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<v Speaker 1>window twenty yards down the field on target, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no a chance it can be picked because he dumps

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<v Speaker 1>it in there low around the hip area, but also

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<v Speaker 1>puts it in a position where his player can make

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<v Speaker 1>a catch, his receiver can make a catch. My intent

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<v Speaker 1>of that is to show you that the reason you

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<v Speaker 1>like arm strength is to thread those tight windows. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the only way. You can do it too.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do it, mahomes can do it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>can do it in different ways. All Right. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a fun, fun podcast to put together for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got so much coming your way here on the

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<v Speaker 1>Drivetime Podcast. Over the course of the summer, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>preview each division and talk more about the general NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and get you ready for the new season. All the

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<v Speaker 1>preview magazines are coming out. Warren Sharp's Preview is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be out here pretty soon. The Pro Football Weekly magazine

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<v Speaker 1>I read every single year. We've got more player media

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<v Speaker 1>availability coming your way in the coming weeks. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>will be live at Mandatory Mini Camp in mid June,

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<v Speaker 1>is I head back down to South Florida, just before

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<v Speaker 1>my family has moved down that way, And once we

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<v Speaker 1>get past Mandatory Mini Camp. From that time until training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go back to two shows per week, and

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<v Speaker 1>then one training camp gets here will be five shows

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<v Speaker 1>a week, all gas, no breaks, And before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the outro, I want to just go back to

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<v Speaker 1>this real quick, treat people nicely, man understand other people's

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<v Speaker 1>perspectives and view the world through more than just the

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<v Speaker 1>lens that you see it through. And also mental health wise,

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody ever needs to talk or just wants to

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<v Speaker 1>you know. That's that's the beauty of humanity, right Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all in this together, let's act like it, and

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