1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: All right, how you doing everyone? Welcome once again to 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff live here on Giants dot Com. I 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: am Russ Salzburg, joined my joined by my colleague today 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: David Deal, two times Super Bowl champion and David you 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: know going into um listening to Eli in the locker 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: room earlier, Uh, he was asked about, you know, how 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: they did it last week against Houston and he said, well, 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: they maintained a they had a sense of urgency, and 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the best way to take care of 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: business this week is maintaining that sense of urgency. People 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: were asking, how how do you keep the momentum going? 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: Best way to build on momentum? You played kee winning 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: vitamin W It cures all in football games. It's it 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: definitely changes the confidence the momentum, uh, that you have 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: not only for that week but possibly the falling week. Now, 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: it's just building off of it and and seeing the 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: way that this Giant's team played energized where they didn't 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: let a verse situation dictate the rest of the football 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: game was huge for them. And you know, we just 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: talked about offensively, the start that they had. We will 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 1: always talk about how important it is to start fast. 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: But for this Giant's offense to go out there for 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: a ten place seventy five yard drive, you know, to 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: finish it off and capitalize it with a Barkley touchdown 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: run was huge. And when you look back at that 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: outside of the delayed game penalty, when Gallman was coming 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: in and Barkley was going to get checked real quick, 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: there wasn't a negative play in that drive. So what 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: do you know your first two third downs or third 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: and four and third or five, those are manageable situations 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: and helps your offensive line into it. And then also 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: the adjustments of watching Eli Manning run this offense out 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: of the shotgun. You think about watching him throughout this 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: entire game. I think there was only one or two 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: times total where I saw him under center go into 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: a five or seven step max protection drop. Other than that, 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: they were running the football, moving the pocket own screens 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: and making sure that they gave their wide receivers enough 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: time to work across the middle, and those different bunch 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: routes in those combinations that we know that Pat Schumer 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: likes to love to develop and create that separation. And 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: when you have those elements and you see them out 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: on the football field and they come to form in 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: the touchdown and success. Those are the things that you 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: see on film that you need to duplicate because you 46 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: know that your team is capable of it, and you 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: know that you're even capable of more once you see 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: it out there. Well, you know, as I said to you, 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: and I was saying to you know the people here yesterday, 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: the demise of Eli Manning has been exaggerated. But what 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: Eli did not not only I mean it was it 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: was vintage Eli. It was not only getting them off 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: to a fast start, but also when they were coming 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: back to put the final nail, which really was the 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: final nail and the cough in the final touchdown, because 56 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: let's let's be frank, the last touchdown came with a 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: second to go less seventy yards. You know what we 58 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: call garbage time. So now the question is what do 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: you do, uh to go ahead and keep the momentum 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: going and to build on it. As you say, vitamin 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: W again, the number is two, A, one, five, one three. 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: I would maintain this, you know, because it's Drew Brees 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: and you've been this, because he doesn't. If they're only 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: scoring thirty four points again, that's no big deal. But 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: but because it's Drew Brees, everybody's thinking, Okay, here we are, 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: it's gunfight at the Okay Corral or gunfight at MetLife Stadium. 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: But to me, the best way to defend Drew Brees 68 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: or anybody like him is to make sure to keep 69 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: his rear end off the field. And how do you 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: do that is with a ball control offense without a 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: doubt time of possession. Any time that you face a 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: high powered offense or a Hall of Fame type of 73 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: quarterback like they're gonna face this weekend, it's imperative for 74 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: the offense and the offensive line to control the time 75 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: of possession and with themselves into favorable position for third downs, 76 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: because we know that that's how this Saints defense drives. 77 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: They're not getting after people in winning one on one battles, 78 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: They're doing it because they're getting teams in bad situations 79 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: after creating negative place stopping the run. Because the Saints 80 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: defense is six in the NFL stopping the run, but 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: their thirtieth against the pass and have given up twelve 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: allowed touchdowns in the year. That's the most in the NFL. 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: So if you're able to sty me them and stay 84 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: positive and create plays where you're not making negative ones. 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: That's where you're gonna be able to dictate the tempo 86 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of this game, and that's where you're gonna be able 87 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: to do more than anything, open up those passing seams 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: in those routes down field that are gonna be crucial 89 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: for this offense with Sterling Shepherd and Odell Beckham Jr. 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: So that is a huge piece and a huge element 91 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: to it. And I say a lot of people say, oh, yeah, 92 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: that's for every game. Look at the opening drive that 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: we had in Super Bowl two forty two up against 94 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. It was a ten minute drive 95 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: and there was a to that keep their quarterback off 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: of the field. Speaking of which, just because you brought 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: up the Patriots, Patriots just got beat Sunday night by 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Why I mean that the time of 99 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: possession was lop sided. And that's how you beat a 100 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: good quarterback is making sure he is kept off the field. 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: So again, that's that's a great point, David, and I think, uh, listen, 102 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: we've seen just what Kwan Barkley can do, what he 103 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: is and against this team with that kind of quarterback 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: being on the opposite side. The best way is for 105 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: say quant to get his motor going and keep the 106 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: other offense off the field. Two oh one four five 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: one three is the number. I am here along with 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: David Deal. Let's start the phone calls off with Chris 109 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: in Alamucci, New Jersey. Chris, how are you but kay? Good? 110 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: Thanks Ross, Thanks David Um. I know You've got a 111 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: lot of calls, So I'll kind of make this quick. 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: Considering Ingram's out for the next couple of weeks and 113 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: the Saints that are going to be down, I think 114 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: with Patrick Robinson being out and they'll be down a 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: defensive back. Do you think will be more likely considering 116 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: that scenario or Giants going more with a double tight 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: en look uh quite a bit during the day and 118 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: going and trying to get that base defense out on 119 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: the out on the out on the field for the Saints, 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: whereas you know Eli can read and and maybe even 121 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: put Barkley in motion from the from the back position 122 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: and possibly get them lined up again in the linebacker, 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: or you know, go with that jumbo package and and 124 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: just you know, ram it through and just try to 125 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: wear that defense out and control the clock. I think 126 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I think that it's partially going 127 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: to be based upon where we think that the Saints 128 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: are going to be healthwise on the defensive side of 129 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: the ball, because, as they stated earlier, you know, this 130 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: is a defense that is six in the NFL stopping 131 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: the run, but the up against the pass, and they've 132 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: given up twelve passing touchdowns, which is the most in 133 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. So you know that they're gonna come in 134 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: and their primary number one goal and objective is let's 135 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: force a Kwon Barkley out of this game. Let's put 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: it into hands of Eli Manning and try to get 137 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: after this offensive line with pressure. So that's definitely something 138 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: that you know that you're gonna come into this game 139 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: with thinking that they're gonna do defensively. But having said that, 140 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: the way that they were able to scheme up against 141 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: his Houston Texans defense and take their defensive line out 142 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: of it was incredible. The fact that Eli Manning ran 143 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: a lot more out of shotgun, not only just handing 144 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: the ball off, but in the passing game. It allowed 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: the time and the blocks and the double teams to develop. 146 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: In the run game. It gave him extra time and 147 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: the protection that he needed, and it just was able 148 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: to get the ball out of his hands where our 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers could beat those corners one on one in 150 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: space and create that separation. So that is a huge 151 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: part of this and I wouldn't shy away from it. 152 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: If we can get Sae Kwon Barkley one on one 153 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: on one of these linebackers, that's a win. That's what 154 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: you're trying to attack. So if you think about putting 155 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: them out or in the shotgun, that's one great way 156 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: to do it. But the other way that you can 157 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: do it is is go to tight end stem out 158 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: of it and then try to catch them off guard 159 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: with the personnel. You know, as Pat Sherman said just 160 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: just a little while ago, Chris, you know, you gain 161 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 1: plan certain things, but then you also deal with what's 162 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: coming your way as the game progresses, and I think 163 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: that that's also going to dictate what they choose to do. 164 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: A good stuff. All right, Thanks again, guys, appreciate Chris. 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's stay in New Jersey. Go to Timothy. 166 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: How are you tim fine? I got a question for 167 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: you guys, Yes, sir, when the when the Giants after 168 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: week fourth, the Giants will before the after, before the 169 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: week by giving us the Panthers, The Giants will activate 170 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: Josh More from a board game suspension relie Eric Flowers 171 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: and from the from the practice sque We got another 172 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: prediction here, well you know what that remains to be 173 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: seeing Tim, thank you, thank you for the call. We 174 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: don't have a crystal ball. That's like he comes. Tim 175 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: always comes in early with the predictions. But I will 176 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: say this Morrow to this defense is gonna be a 177 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: huge edition when he comes back from suspension. His whole 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: primary and objective as a three or four player, and 179 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: at that end position is to tie up offensive lineman 180 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: then let the linebackers run. That's something that he did 181 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: when he was coming out of college at Stanford, and 182 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: that's something that we saw him do very well during 183 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: the preseason when he played. So it's gonna be a 184 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: nice addition to have him back and get him in 185 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: that rotation with the D line. And speaking speaking of defense, 186 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: uh Pat Charman also mentioned today that both ov Olivier 187 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Vernon and Eli Apple will be out there, you know, 188 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: some form of practice. He said, both of them are 189 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: getting better. I still would not expect to see either 190 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: one this week ankle sprain, which again we didn't expect 191 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: that that's what it was, but that is indeed what 192 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: it was. So I think that's like four weeks. I 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: think this is the fourth week coming up, so that 194 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: takes well, it's really more than the fourth week, but 195 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: it takes care of him and elis a groin and 196 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: they don't want to screw around with that. So that's usually, 197 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, if it's not too serious a couple of weeks. 198 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: Look at how much that growing affected Brent Rhymes on 199 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: Monday night football. So let's let's see uh you know, 200 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they did well last week. Let's see them 201 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: do well again this week. Now let's go back out 202 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: to uh your hometown old the Windy City, Chicago. Robert 203 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: from Chicago. I love it, Hey, Dave, looking good with 204 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: that ring on, Thank you very much. It's a it's 205 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: a good thing when you have a decision which one 206 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: you want to wear in the morning. That's a good 207 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: problem to have a nice problem. That very very nice. Um. 208 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: So I just got two comments and then um, two questions. 209 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: Then I'll take it off their go ahead. One comment, well, 210 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: you can speak highly is with elive working at play 211 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: Action he looks a lot better. And you know what 212 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: a product of that was, Robert, that people aren't getting 213 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: giving him enough credit. John Greco. John Greco filling in 214 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: from the week before, seven mental areas on the offensive 215 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: line by blitz pick up. There were zero in this game. 216 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: And it's a good thing that when you're in a 217 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: game like this, when you have a center filling in 218 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: for the first time and you never hear his name 219 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: called throughout the entire game, that is a sign that 220 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: somebody's doing their job. You know, Robert, Robert, everybody who 221 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: has been preoccupied, and for good reason, with the offensive line, 222 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: the bad play, the improvement you know last week, and 223 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: obviously you know Chad Wheeler replacing Eric Flowers. But to 224 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: David's credit, and this is an offensive lineman talking. It's 225 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: a great point. You didn't hear nobody after the game 226 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about let's talk about Wheela. We're talking about 227 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: of course Eli and this one and that one no 228 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: one was talking about. I mean, like like nobody was 229 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: talking about John Greca like a church church mouse. Nobody 230 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: nobody's talking about him. And and David's right, when it's 231 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: quiet like that, that's a calming influence and that's exactly 232 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: what he was. Kudos to Uh, not only John Greco, 233 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: he did a really find job. Not only that, but 234 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: talk about stepping in as a leader. He was the 235 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: player who went in front of the entire team and 236 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: gave the pregame speech before this game, you know, and 237 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: remember I think I mentioned it to you was it 238 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: last week? You know? Prior to one of the games 239 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: he went out, him and Nate Solda had walked up 240 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: to see Kwan Barkley's locker and they had a next 241 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: tell him extensive conversation at length. Now, this is John Greco. 242 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: We're not talking about the starting center at the time. Okay, 243 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: him and Nate Solda walked over and they had an 244 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: extensive conversation. So that that just told me a little 245 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: bit something about his leadership. So when I knew he 246 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: was becoming the center, you know, taking over, you know, 247 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about it. No. No. Now, granted, he 248 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: was the backup, and he was the backup for a reason, 249 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: but that's why you have a veteran backup. And that's 250 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: one of the things that I discussed last week. Somebody 251 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: who has over seventy plus starts in their career, but 252 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: also knows the system down cold. He played under it 253 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, he played under it in St. Lounis. St. 254 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: Louis offer coach Shermer. Just look at how much more 255 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: confidence and how much pressure it took off a v 256 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: y directing this offense and taking calls off of its 257 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: huge It really was a seamless transition. What else you got, Robert? Okay, Um, 258 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: it all relies on the line. Uh So now that 259 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: we've got Greco could deal, can you elaborate more on 260 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: so with their death in the center in the guard position, 261 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: and then also with Wheeler taken over, can you just 262 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: uh giving some fans uh some of the I guess 263 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: a strong points. Okay, yeah, definitely so obviously the air 264 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: All right, Robert, thank you. You know, this was a 265 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: discussion that we had last week going into the this 266 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: Houston game, and people were asking, oh, well, what do 267 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: you think about Wheeler at that point, he didn't do 268 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: anything throughout practice number one to win the job, to 269 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: start training camp and to win it for the regular season. 270 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: But two he was starting to get some glimpses, but 271 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't consistent. Last week they gave him opportunities in 272 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: practice and he maximized on him and that's why they 273 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: were confident enough for him to take over and be 274 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: the starter at right tackle in that game. So it's 275 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: it's vital that he came in and played the way 276 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: that he did. But having said that, you know people 277 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: will say, well, it's j. J. Watt. Giving up three 278 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: sacks is still three sacks. And when you give up 279 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,359 Speaker 1: negative plays in the run game for TfL's, yes, it's difficult, 280 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: and once again you're saying it's up against J. J. Watt, 281 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: But also you're a professional right tackle starter in the 282 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: NFL like it's not something to this point because of 283 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: the experience that we had in Flowers that you can 284 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: just overlook it and say, oh, well, he did a 285 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: great job. You have to be able to be critical 286 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: on players. The thing that I think he did unbelievably 287 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: well and much better than Eric Flowers was his run blocking, 288 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: not only when he was front side, but his ability 289 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: to be on the back side and cut off a 290 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: three technique or defensive end in that zone scheme. That's 291 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: something that Eric Flower struggled against. That's something that he 292 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: did very well. And if you go back and we 293 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: actually did a breakdown of it. If you see the 294 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: touchdown run by Sae Kwon Berkeley, that double team between 295 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: him and Oh Mommy was clinic. It was exactly what 296 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: you were looking for. He was able to cut off 297 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: the defensive end. Oh Mommy got to the second level 298 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: and what do you know, you get a touchdown out 299 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: of it. You know, you're talking about, you know, correcting things. 300 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: You know, there was improvement, but there's still a lot 301 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: of work to do it. And in fairness that Chad Wheeler, 302 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: you know it was a star fan was this It 303 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: was his sixth start in his career total. But you know, again, 304 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Pat Sherman said something today and this all applies to 305 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Pat. Pat said, it's obviously you're 306 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: happy with the W, but he said it's also very 307 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: very important. Even with the W, that's when you really 308 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: want to make you a correction. Yeah, you know, you know, 309 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: not just on losses, but you want to you want 310 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: to look, this is what we did, but this is 311 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: what we can do that much better. And you know, 312 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: I think we always going to be one of those guys. Listen, 313 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: you brought a good point. I was sitting having lunch 314 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: with Dave, and he brought out the point. Listen, yeah 315 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: it is three sacks and three sacks and three sacks. 316 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't care where it is, and yes it is J. J. Watt. 317 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: But if those three sacks had come against Eric Flowers, 318 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: you know what would be going on here to the folks. 319 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: So you know, it's correcting it and also in going 320 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: in line with what you said, Uh Shermer had said 321 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: going into it and right after the game, it wasn't 322 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: so much what Flowers wasn't doing. It was so much 323 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: and you brought it up, brought up, brought it out 324 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: about practice. It was so much what we all had 325 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: done to show that he deserved it. Yeah, that's what 326 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: it was. Your opportunities are never lost. Someone will take 327 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: the one that you miss. He got his opportunity. They 328 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: started bringing him in on Wednesday to see if you 329 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: can handle it. He got the job done and earned. 330 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: Just to remind the folks, to remind you that Big 331 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live is presented to you by Corps Light. 332 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: Download the Coors Light Rewards app to win yourself amazing 333 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: giant prizes throughout this season, but right now the number 334 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: is due A one nine three nine four or five 335 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: one three. Let's go to Manhattan speak with Antonio. Antonio, 336 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: you're around with Russ and David. Hey, what's going on? Russ? Uh? 337 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: I know this isn't David deal appreciate appreciation moment, But David, 338 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you. And you're the 339 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: man bro um. Everything you've done for this organization is 340 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: off the hug obviously would get enough two rings, but 341 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: then you're on Twitter and you're adding fans and you're 342 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: required to people. Man, You're just I just want to 343 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: say thank you so much. Man, you still you know thing. 344 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: It's like blue for you. So I appreciate that so much. 345 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: You don't even understand. And Tonio, anytime you want to 346 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: call and hang out, I could use the hype. Man. 347 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: You're doing an unbelievable job. So this is great. How 348 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: can we help you, buddy? Okay? So I just wanted 349 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: to touch base on two things and you kind of 350 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: just touch based on it right now in terms of 351 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, wheel are giving up three sacks, and what 352 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to bake a little bit more on was 353 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned that he still was doing a little bit 354 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: a lot better in the run blocking than every Flowers. 355 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: So Even with that being said, um, it's every Flowers 356 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: that far behind and run blocking that he still wouldn't 357 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: be better off at playing alright tackle? Or would you 358 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: want to see one more week of Wheeler and great 359 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: amount and then say, you know, maybe we should put 360 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: every Flowers back or know every Wheeler should stay. That's 361 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: my first question. Wheeler stays until he doesn't prove that 362 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: he deserves to be out there. And that's something that 363 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about throughout the season, and we 364 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: talked about with Eric fly Hours, this general manager and 365 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman and this head coach and Shermer. It's not 366 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: about feelings, it's not about where you were drafted. It's 367 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: now about who's gonna be out on the field and 368 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: help you win football games. And before the season, when 369 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: there was the competition, Eric Flowers won that competition, but 370 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: has not been doing enough obviously during the game, but 371 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: throughout practice consistently to maintain that job. They gave it 372 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: to Wheeler. He was able to capitalize it starting last 373 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: week and Wednesday and practice built up more reps. They 374 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: felt that they can go with him. He went out 375 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: and got the job done and now it's up to 376 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: him to continue to improve so that something doesn't go 377 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: back and that you don't fall back into the way 378 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: of of getting back to Eric Flowers unless he fights 379 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: and earns it. I'll just say this, I always talk you, 380 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: and I always say this. Body language never whispers, its screams. 381 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: It drove me crazy to sit there and watch the 382 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: game and then on the sidelines the first time they 383 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: flashed Eric Flowers eating sunflower seeds, not holding your helmet. 384 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: It's almost just conceding to the loss. Yeah, you know, Antonio. Uh, 385 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: he's when I say, hey, Chad Wheeler is listed on 386 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: the depth chart as the starting right tackle, and it's 387 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: his job, you know, it's his job now to lose 388 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: or to maintain. Let's let's be positive. Let's let's let's 389 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: say it's his job to maintain. If he stumbles, that's 390 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: a different story. But I don't think there's there's no 391 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: remote chance that he's not going to start this week. 392 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: And let's go flbid he's injured between now and Sunday. Okay, 393 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: And now my last question is David so in this 394 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: this game plan for Houston, it just happened. We threw 395 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: a lot of we had a lot of short step drops. 396 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't many people obviously because it's J. J. 397 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Watt and J. J. Watt was inchesed away from having 398 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: like five tacks that game and even calling more havocs. 399 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: So do you think this is this was just the 400 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: game plan for Texas or is this the identity of 401 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: the offense and the only reason why men bring this up, 402 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: it's because that was pretty much what we tried to 403 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: do last year, which it was very you know, three 404 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: step dro not a lot of people are but for 405 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: whatever reason, because maybe different formation is working out better 406 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: this year. Uh, do you think that that's what we 407 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 1: should be or you know, we should switch it up 408 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: based on who we're playing week a week and have 409 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: a great one guy, I definitely think it's it's based 410 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: upon the matchup and the personnel that you're playing on 411 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. And yeah, you may say, well, 412 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: that's what we kind of did last season, but that's 413 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: not what they did in the first two games. Each 414 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: game that you're gonna make changes, you're gonna do things 415 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: differently scheme wise, and for the Giants going into this one, 416 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: they just felt the best way to get the offensive 417 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: line acclimated and build confidence and also functioned fast in 418 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: their offense was to run more out of shotgun to 419 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: start the football game, which, as you can see, it 420 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: was a success for him. So you know that they're 421 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna make adjustments and tailor to them. But to sit 422 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: there and say, oh, well, the shotgun plan is the 423 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: one that you're gonna use moving forward. It's all based 424 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: upon the personnel that you're playing, because, let's face it, 425 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: looking at this defense outside of Cam Jordan on the Saints, 426 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: it's not like looking at Merciless and Clowney and J. J. 427 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Watt on the other side. So you have a differ 428 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: from matchup and you're gonna try to expose it differently. 429 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: That's all Billy in Middletown. You're on a big blue 430 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: kick off with Russ and David Hey, ros Hey, David, 431 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. What's up? What's up? Bill? Hey? 432 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: To me, this whole thing comes down to fall control. 433 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: Letty along drive, give me eight ten minute drive. He 434 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: flees on the sidelines. Keep them just keep them out there, 435 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: keep them cold, right, and uh, if we can't score 436 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: special team, we need to pen them deep. Yeah, right, 437 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: And that one defense. Kitts out there, that's your Throw 438 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: everything at him. Throw the kitchen, think a free We 439 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: see he can't shamp back there. You know for four 440 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: to five seconds, survey in the field. We've got to 441 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: get to that guy and you've got to rattle him. Well, listen, Billy, 442 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard us. If you just 443 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: tuned in, you know you're you're echoing what we said earlier. 444 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: It's all about the best to keep a quarterback, a 445 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: very good quarterback off the field. Uh, to stop him 446 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: from beating you is to keep him off the field. 447 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: And so we said, you're right, it's ball control. I mean, 448 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: this is where we really want to We know what 449 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Sa Kuan could do, but this is where he can shine. Yeah, 450 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: and you can't let this game get into a shootout. 451 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Right now, the Saints are averaging thirty four points a game, 452 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: and you don't want you don't want to think that 453 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: way because when's the last time the Giants have scored 454 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: over thirty points. It was thirty six games ago. Well, 455 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: we'd like to think that this offense will be able 456 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: to do it, but you don't want to get into 457 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: living that way. I would agree with you, though, that 458 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: we want to see more from uh uh special teams 459 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: in particular, you know, on on punt returns and stuff 460 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: like that. You know, the punter Dixon, to me, has 461 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: been pretty good. Yeah, I have no problems with him. 462 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: And listen very quietly. Aldre Ross is perfect, you know, 463 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: your place kicker. So that's a good sign. So you know, 464 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: but I agree with you. You got you gotta stop him, 465 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: and the best way to stop him is make sure 466 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't get a chance to light up your defense, 467 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, so keep him off the field. The only 468 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: thing that scares a little forward thinking. Okay, all of us, 469 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, all of us this week should be a 470 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions fan because if they can take out the Cowboys, right, 471 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: that's the one o'clock game. O'clock game. But a Detroit 472 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: get past the Cowboys and you'll pull the Cowboys down. 473 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: But it's only good Giant just you know what, Billy, 474 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: thank you for the call, my friend. But and I'm 475 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: I know, I don't think I know, Dave, you're gonna 476 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: agree with this. It's the fourth game of the season. 477 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: Just you're the Giants. Just you don't need to be 478 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: scoreboard watching. You're the Giants. You take care of your 479 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: own business, worry about the same, worry about the Saints 480 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: and Big Blue and what you do, and the rest 481 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: will take care of itself. It's too only in the 482 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: season to be doing that. Now. This is the fourth game, 483 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: so you like to you like to go and look 484 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: at the situation in quarters. Okay, we always say a 485 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: coach likes to break down the season four four four four. 486 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell you going into this season, if you 487 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: would have said the Giants could be two and two 488 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: with this schedule after four games, you would have been 489 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: very satisfied. Fair enough, Yeah, I mean you want to 490 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: win every game, but I think you would have been satisfied. 491 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: And I think if they could do that, especially after 492 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: losing the first two, people should be satisfied. The only 493 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: thing to go back to Billy's call was he said, 494 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: Betcher needs to be aggressive. They need to attack, they 495 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: need to blitz. They need to be able to do 496 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: that with their front four. Because when you think about 497 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: receiving running backs, Alvin Kamara has thirty which is the 498 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: most buy a running back and his first three games 499 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl era. So you're talking about now 500 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: with not having Ingram in there, how they've been able 501 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: to overcome it by throwing them the football out of 502 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: the backfield. He hasn't had over four teen touches rushing it. 503 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: They've just been targeting out of the passing game, trying 504 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: to create one once up against line. Thirty receptions in 505 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: his first three games. It's a lot. It's a lot. 506 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Two oh one, five, one, three is the number. Let's 507 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: go to uh is it. Let's go down to Atlanta 508 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: and speak with Conna. Conna, how you doing today? Hey, guys, 509 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: how y'all doing? Man? I'm good, Um, Dave, I I 510 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, You've changed the way I watched football. Man. 511 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: I used to think the offensive line a bunch of 512 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: big guys pushing each other around. Boys. Come on, Connor, 513 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: come on, my man, gotta be the smartest ones on 514 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: the field. You alysis incredible, man, And I just thank 515 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: you for that. And I just want to ask you 516 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: something and I'll get off the eric when I'm done. 517 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: Oh mom. He kind of struggled the first couple of weeks. Yeah, 518 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: of course. And in that being said, you know, he 519 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: had a really good game against the Texans. Do you 520 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: think it could be because he's a little bit more 521 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: comfortable playing with Greco and playing with Wheeler because they 522 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: kind of spent a lot of time on that second string. 523 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: You think he upped his own game personally, and I 524 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: don't wanted to see what you thought about that, you know, 525 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: I think it can be a combination of a couple 526 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: of things. Number One, this is the first time in 527 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: his career that he's actually been on the right side 528 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. He's always been at the left 529 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: side at left guard, and then when they drafted Hernandez 530 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: obviously switched him over, So that could be a part 531 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: of it. But also we know that Omamy's strengths is 532 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: running the football and his run blocking more than pass blocking. 533 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: And when you're on that side and have you communication errors, 534 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: and also who are defenses and defensive ends attacking they 535 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: were attacking Eric Flowers, you're gonna get a brunt of 536 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: that stuff because you're on that side of the offensive 537 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: line and they're attacking your right tackle that you're not 538 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: on the same level. So with communication wise, it was 539 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: clear watching this game, not only by the way that 540 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: Greco demanded it and controlled the offense and the calls, 541 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: but you could see the mession, the double teams in 542 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: the fits that Omamy had were much better with Wheeler 543 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: than they were Flowers, isn't it also, Dave, you know, 544 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: in fairness to the offensive line, and you know who 545 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: I was saying this last week and people were critical 546 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: of it. The Giants were three and thirteen last year 547 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: they were three and thirteen. Like, like I said, David 548 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: was seven new head coaches in the NFL this season. 549 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: Seven new coaches for a reason, because seven teams had 550 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: bad seasons. Four of the five starters were new. Yeah, 551 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: so they were new guys. And just because everybody was 552 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: happy that they rebuilt the offensive line, it didn't mean 553 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: that they were getting out of the gate looking like 554 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, Lombardies packers. You know, uh yeah, everybody expects 555 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's not done with pixie dust. 556 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: That's a very difficult position. David will attest to them 557 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: and people will go immediately back to, oh, well, in 558 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota two years ago, they were able to do it well. Yes, 559 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: they also had one of the top five defenses and 560 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: had every return earning starter come back as well. So 561 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: we knew that it was going to take a little 562 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: bit of time. Listen, this is a great win. It's 563 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: a great start and a momentum builder, but it doesn't 564 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: dictate or give any guarantees to the rest of the season. 565 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: It's up to this offensive line, in this offense to 566 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: continue to grow together and develop and work to get it. 567 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: Two oh one four or five one three is the number. 568 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to Connecticut check in with Steve Stave. You're 569 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: on with Russ and Dave. Hey, what's going on? Guys? 570 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Yes, you can hear you loud 571 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: and clear, buddy. So it's an honor to talk to you. Guys. 572 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm a long time listener, longtime fan, whole life fan. Um, 573 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: David deal, They've already gone on a love fest for 574 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: you and thanks. You can add right on to it. 575 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: Feel free. Yeah, No, you're obviously a beast. I'll just 576 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: leave it at you. Yeah. My question for today is 577 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: in regards to the tight ends. UM. I think Evan 578 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: Ingram is a tremendous player, tremendous athlete. UM obviously helped 579 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: my fantasy team last year year. Um, but this year, UM, 580 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, you know, he's obviously you know, it's 581 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: no secret he's I want I don't want to say 582 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: one dimensional because he you know, is willing to block, 583 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: but obviously he's more of a pass catching tight end. 584 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: Do you think so, don't say that without any hesitation. 585 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: That's that's that's one of the things that he had 586 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: coming out. So you're correct with that assessment. Absolutely. Yeah. So, 587 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: given the fact that we already have a lot of 588 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: targets and playmaking um ability with the Quan with with O'Dell, 589 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: with Sterling and all these other guys, do you think 590 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: it might actually benefit our offense in the long run 591 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: or at least not in the long run. I guess 592 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: for the temporary to have Ellison in there, given that 593 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, he can catch in his own right, and 594 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: he's also a much better, a really good blocker. Well, 595 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, Pat Sherman kind of addressed that today, you know, 596 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: he said, you know, how things going to change. He 597 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: was asked specifically, what you're talking about, Steve, uh, you know, 598 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: how much is your game planning? What going to change? 599 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: He said, you know, they'll think it with certain things 600 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: to play to certain people's strengths. But that's why you 601 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: have a guy like Rhett Ellison because ye and he's 602 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: familiar with Rhett as well. It's a Swiss Army. He 603 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: can do it. He's a tough guy, he knows how 604 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: to play. Uh. He likes him as a player and 605 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: as a person. But let's not minimize you know, Angram 606 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: is an enormous talent. They're just a different, different style 607 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: of player. So now with him out, you're gonna have 608 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: to deal with you know, they can deal with. You're 609 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 1: gonna do play to the Ellison strengths or how that 610 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: fits into the offense. And you just think about this now, 611 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: not having him out on the football field where you say, well, 612 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: it could benefit because more guys are gonna get fed 613 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: the ball and progressions. But at the same time, look 614 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: at the defensive perspective, it gives them one less guy 615 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: to worry about that they know they can get over 616 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: the top at that size. That's true. I do like 617 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: the idea of having Red Ellison helping out, especially with 618 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: all the questions on the line. Absolute definitely helping. Um. 619 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: I guess one more question. I'll just take it off 620 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: the um. You know, it seems like we have a 621 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a of a touchdown drought for Beckham 622 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: and we saw this in two thousand sixteen as well. 623 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: To start the season do you think that anything goes 624 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: into that or if it's scheme or if there's anything, 625 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: um you know, inherently to issue with him scoring touchdowns lately. 626 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: And I'll take that off there. Thank you guys. All right, Steve, 627 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad glad you asked that, because that 628 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: again that was asked, you know, coach speaks on Wednesday, 629 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: they asked about that the touchdown to Shepherd at the 630 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: end was designed to go to oh b J. It 631 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: wasn't there, so it went to Chef and and Sherman 632 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: made a point. They're saying nobody was happier about that 633 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: touchdown going to Chep than was Odell Beckham Jr. The 634 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: point of the issue, as far as I'm concerned as this, 635 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: who gives a rats ass who's scoring a touchdowns as 636 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: long as it's the Giant scoring the touchdown and you're 637 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: winning and and win game. And Odell has said he 638 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: said it last week, uh, you know, amongst a crowd 639 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: of people around his lock, he said, yeah, it'd be great, 640 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: you know if I can have one of those three 641 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: touchdowns and three hundred yard games. If we don't win, 642 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And if I don't have a big 643 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: game and we do win. That's what matters. He's not 644 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: given enough credit for being a team guy. And the 645 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: thing that I love is that right away, like I 646 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: was saying, right when that game started, I'm like good 647 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: force feeded to O b J. Because when you get 648 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: him started early, now you're getting a defense on their 649 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: heels and it opens up everything else for everybody else, 650 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: opens up everything for everybody. You know, his presence makes 651 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: everybody you know, it makes everybody else more available by 652 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: him being there. Prime example, Monday night football, Antonio Brown 653 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: up against the Buccaneers, has an unbelievable first half, scores 654 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown. He didn't catch another ball in the second 655 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: half because their whole goal and objective was to take 656 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: him out of the game, so they started getting to Juju, Smith, 657 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Schuster and other players because it opens up more dynamic 658 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: place where your progressions and reads will take you to 659 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: somebody else. And you know that as being a player 660 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: and being that dynamic receiver. Having said that, I think 661 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: this is the game where he can really capitalize. Think 662 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: about him, what was it two years ago in New Orleans, 663 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: the big game that he had. This is another one. 664 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: You know, his hometown crowd is going to be watching 665 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: this game. This is a defense that gives up over 666 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: three six in the air. This is a game that 667 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: he can have a big, big time explosive game. To 668 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Brandon inst Caaucus, we go, Hey Brandon, how you doing? Buddy? 669 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Hey guys, how you doing? You could have just drove 670 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: over with this one instead of calling in you're right here? 671 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, well hey, I'm a season ticket. That's 672 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: the way it goes so close to it. So last 673 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: week and talked about the vulters of the New York media. 674 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: To all this week, I would say, so, what do 675 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: you know? It gets protected? He's efficient, makes those throws 676 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: to you O b J in between two people on 677 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: the sidelines. Hey Brandon, you know at at halftime of 678 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: the game, okay, at halftime of the game. And I'm 679 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. I tweeted out, get the 680 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: chap stick ready because all the naysayers are gonna be 681 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: lining up to kiss Eli's asked tomorrow a hundred and 682 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: seventy five yards twelve or four team, one touchdown first half. 683 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: I guess he could play a little bit. Yeah, you 684 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: couldn't be more right when you say that, And remember 685 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: that last week when called, yeah, you could be more right, Brandon. Yeah. Well, 686 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: so the question I have, um, well, one point in 687 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: one question, I'll take it off the air. One point 688 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 1: I gotta make is for John Greco. Look, this guy 689 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: been in the legal eleven years. I don't know if 690 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: he's got any Paul Bolton or his belt, but he's 691 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: been in the legal eleven years. There's something to be 692 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: said to that. When I saw him at the line, 693 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: he's making adjustments. He was pointing. I don't know, I'm 694 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: not Dave. Maybe you can tell me. It's a little 695 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: bit more comfortable than how most most certainly did. And 696 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: that's something that you know I talked about last week 697 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: when the adjust was made, is because you're talking about 698 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: somebody who played under coach Shermer system for two different 699 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: teams and had over seventy starts in it. You know 700 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: he is more of a guard. This is the first 701 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: time he's truly started at center, but he's played it 702 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: throughout his career. He stepped in and filled in just 703 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: like you want out of a veteran vested offensive lineman. Absolutely. Absolutely. Uh. 704 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: The question I have for you, Davis, I told you 705 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: last week you should be a coach. So the question 706 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: I have for you this week is going up against 707 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: the Saints. Defensively. I know you're an offensive vibe, but defensively, um, 708 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: you know in that Texans game, we gave up a 709 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: lot of person Yeah, especially with Juli Apple out and 710 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: way Drew Brees was a lot better than de Shaun Watson. 711 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: I would say, So, what what what can we expect to? Like, 712 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: I guess what kind of game plan can we do 713 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: to kind of minimize it? Spread it out? But I 714 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: just don't want to give a big chunks in yards 715 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. I mean, that's that's 716 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: a problem. So one of these obviously, you know a 717 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: lot of this is gonna come upon A and B 718 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: gap pressure. You know, a lot of quarterbacks can't handle that, 719 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: regardless of who they are, let alone a quarterback with 720 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame caliber resume and everything. But Drew 721 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: Brees is not a six five quarterback, you see, and 722 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: he does that little look and tries to throw people 723 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: off with it because that's his only way to see 724 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: over the offensive line. So if you get oh yeah, 725 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: but if you can get pressure in the A and 726 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: B gaps and get him off of his spot, that's 727 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: where you're gonna make your mark. That's why I throughout 728 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: all the years that when you look at the Saints 729 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: in the way that they've drafted and built their offensive lineman, 730 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: those old linemen that our guards are like three thirty 731 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: three forty because they can't give up any of the 732 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: depth of the pocket because of his stature. And it's 733 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: not being the tallest guy. If you can get the 734 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: pressure in the A and B gaps, if Snacks can 735 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: be in there and be that penetrating force against an 736 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: offensive line that has struggled, especially Andrew's pete at the 737 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: left card position, that's where you can capitalize in getting 738 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: after Drew Brees. And you've got to be able to 739 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: do it with four because if not, Like I was 740 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, Camara is a matchup nightmare in the 741 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: passing game, up against linebackers and safeties. All right, let's 742 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: go down to Roswell George and check in with Rob. 743 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Rob? You're on with Russ 744 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: and David Deal. Hey, how do you how do you 745 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: from Fulton County guys getting ready for the baseball postseason? 746 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: Are you? Absolutely? But I'm even more excited a couple 747 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: of weeks having the Giants come down here and whoop 748 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: up on the falcon. So I'm looking forward to that 749 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 1: game too. Hey, A couple of things. One point number 750 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: one is based on that last drive that Eli lad 751 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: on Sunday. I think Dave Gettleman showed us he knows 752 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: exactly what he's talking about, doesn't he when he called 753 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: him out at his quarterback. I applaud Eli. The other thing, Um, 754 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think the Giants are afflicted with what 755 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: a lot of NFL teams are have, and that's flack 756 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: of depth on the offensive line. So it's kind of funny. 757 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: I understand that they had to make the move from 758 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: Flowers to Wheeler and you've got three sacks against Uh, 759 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: you know, obviously an all pro performer and won't wait 760 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: to see what comes out of that. What I was 761 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: wondering is the guy that made the initial fifty three 762 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: but it is no longer there is John Jerry, and 763 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody has picked them up. But 764 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: in terms of depth and that guy, I mean, that 765 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: guy played every play every game. Is there any kind 766 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: of possibility with injury or performance that we might see 767 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: him back in a giant uniform. You know, I don't know, 768 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: but you have to remember something else. When you talk 769 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: about depth, you don't say around the league with your 770 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: offensive lineman or whatever the case may be. And you know, 771 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: one of the things that that made John Jerry Uh 772 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: vulnerable to being you know let go is also financial. 773 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: You know there's X amount of money that's invested in 774 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: starters and ex amount of money that's invested in backups, 775 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: and what the net worth is, and you know that 776 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: becomes a business decision robe and one of the things 777 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: to go along with that. With number one, I just 778 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: made sure I didn't think that he was. But he 779 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: hasn't resigned with anybody as of two now, so he's 780 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: still a free agent. But the thing that I know 781 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: that they tried doing with him in training camp was 782 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: trying to moving him around and seeing if he could 783 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: play right tackle, if he could play other positions other 784 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: than just guard, and he didn't do it successfully. So 785 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: that's where then you were thinking, Okay, Wheeler is going 786 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: to be the swing. Then you have Greco as the 787 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: backup who can play both guards and centers. It just 788 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: became like you were saying a numbers game well, listen, 789 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: they didn't discard him, if that's the word you want 790 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: to use, just because they were discarding him. As as 791 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: David just said, you give somebody a chance. Is it 792 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: working out, is it not working out? And if it's 793 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: not working out, then the other aspects come in, such 794 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: as financial. It's business. So that's just Rob, that's just 795 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: the way it goes. And with grecord, I was not 796 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: sure if number one Jerry on his contract was gonna 797 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: be due more than Eric Flowers. And I recognize, you know, 798 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: the political fallout you cut you cut Flowers and his 799 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: fifth year contract as a rookie or something like that. 800 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: I understand that. And I guess the other grade unknown 801 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,479 Speaker 1: that we don't know is this kid that we picked 802 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: up from San Diego, right who started every game at 803 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: center for them last year. He's also capable of playing guard. 804 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: I imagine at some point of Shermer sees what's going 805 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: on with him in practice, you might see something. We 806 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: might see some of him during the season. Thanks for 807 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: taking my call. I really appreciate it, all right, Rob, 808 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: But but you know, you know, Dave as as a 809 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: former player, you know that there are certain guys it 810 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: could be your best buddies. But you know, it's it's 811 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: also a business, and you know, this is not a 812 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: sport where there's no caps. You know, it's it comes 813 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: down in the end, it comes down to some dollars 814 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: and cents. Now, as John Greco just had proven, you know, 815 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: in the words of Pat Sherma, once you once you 816 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: make the team, once you're part of the fifty three, 817 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you were drafted or or what 818 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: how much you're making, what college you went to. It's 819 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: about production. Yeah, and being ready to play. And that 820 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: includes your practice squad as well. Yeah, that's all part 821 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: of And you want to talk about the constant competition. 822 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday here at this facility. They 823 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: were probably fifteen twenty guys that were free agents right 824 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: now on the street every Tuesday, every Tuesday, working out 825 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: to see if they can make it on this roster 826 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 1: and if the Giants can make moves to Bolstrip moving forward. 827 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: And nobody is sitting on their hands, not you know, 828 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: observing what's going on around the league or what they need. 829 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: You're always trying to make yourself always, and that's one 830 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 1: thing Dave Gettlman his staff are always looking got back 831 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: to Dave's hometown Chicago and Mark. But Mark wants to 832 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: talk about the D line. Yeah, actually, thanks for having 833 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: me on the show. I actually have a couple of questions. 834 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: One on the line, one on the D line. All right, 835 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: I got on the show of Late Dave Um. Do 836 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: you think that Wheeler did enough to warrant getting his 837 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: second start this coming week in the game. Absolutely, obviously, 838 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: you know I went into full length about this. Obviously 839 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: that the sacks aren't something that you want to have happened, 840 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: I said, But his production in the way that he 841 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: was able to go into the running game, Uh, seal up, 842 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: double teams, cut people off on the back side. Uh, 843 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: he was able to do those much better than their flowers. 844 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: In the second aspect that you have to look at 845 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: all of it was just the way as a collective 846 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: group they played. You look at the game before seven 847 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: mental errors and obviously Eli and the team paid for 848 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: this last one. There wasn't any And look at the 849 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: production that they had up front and how much they 850 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: were able to dictate the temple of this game. So 851 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: unless Wheeler does it to himself, he's not going to 852 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: be out of the line up. How much of the 853 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: improved played. Do you think it is attributable to u 854 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: Greco being at least having some experience at center and 855 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: Hapio really was doing his first year playing center and 856 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: maybe you know already got a little shell shocked in 857 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: the Dallas game. Do you think I mean it was 858 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: it was just more better at making the calls more quickly. 859 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: I think you could see that throughout this game that 860 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: he was up there point and identifying things. And the 861 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: fact that he's not only started over seventy career career games, 862 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: but the fact that he's played under coach Shermer system 863 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: not only in Cleveland but also in St. Louis, that 864 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: just helps him and the rest of the offensive line 865 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: with the confidence of making those calls that he's taken. 866 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: Now some of that pressure off of Eli because Eli 867 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: knows that this is somebody that has played throughout all 868 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: this stuff and knows what we need to do and 869 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: what we're functionally trying to do as a unit, so 870 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: that now he can function and do other things. So 871 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: it was a huge, huge edition, and it was a 872 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: great game and a great calls by by John Greckel. 873 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: But now let's do when it consistently for the rest 874 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: of the season. All right, Okay, I have a big 875 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: line question. Let me answer the line question. I'll take 876 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: it off the year. Um. I didn't see the first 877 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: couple of games, but what surprised me in this game 878 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: was how many snaps Kareem Martin had with his hand 879 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: in the dirt on the line. Um, is that a 880 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: strategy because of the some of the issues he had 881 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: as a stand up linebacker, they're using him on the line, 882 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: And what do you think that means in terms of 883 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: when OV comes back, what his playing time be diminished, 884 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: or how do you think they'll use them? Then I'll 885 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: take it off the year. Well, no, I think that 886 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: he'll still be a part of it. But I like 887 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: the fact that when you have a h Kareem Martin 888 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: that plays that way. For me, I've always thought that 889 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: regardless of whether you're an outside linebacker or playing that 890 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: defensive end spot. I always thought that, like if you're 891 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 1: on the attack, regardless of whether you're in a two 892 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: point stance or not, the two point stance makes you 893 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: come out higher out of your stance and you don't 894 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: get leverage in that momentum to get underneath offensive tackles. 895 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: That's something that I think a lot of people out 896 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: of that two point stands struggle with because that first step, 897 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: instead of elevating, when you're coming out of your three point, 898 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 1: you're already at a level where you're almost chest to chest, 899 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: so you have to dip back down to get that leverage. 900 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: So that's something that you know, I understand if you're 901 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: a solid stand up outside linebacker, but when you're a 902 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: tweeen er, I've never understood why why they're not in 903 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 1: the three point stance when you're trying to bull rush 904 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. I think that he's going to continue 905 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: to play, and he's gonna have a ton of reps 906 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: because I figure the whole reason why they brought him 907 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: here was he's played under this system for Arizona under 908 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: James Betcher. Two oh one four or five one three 909 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: is the number. We want to remind you once again, folks. 910 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live Here is presented by Corps Light. 911 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: Download the Coors Light Rewards app to win yourself Amazing 912 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: Giants prizes throughout this season. Amazing prize. Let's go to 913 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: uh p A and speak with Joe. Joe, how are 914 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: we doing today? Hey? Wonderful Russ David, Uh, I just 915 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: have to say, I'm I'm looking you know what I 916 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: mean on that Dallas game and that that game just 917 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: burned me up so bad, you know what I mean. 918 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think we played with enough urgency, plus all 919 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: the assignments that were blew on that game. It's just 920 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: one that I think we could have played, definitely a 921 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: much better game there. Let's move forward. We can't do 922 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: anything about that. I am. I'm saying we'll go back 923 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: to this offensive line stuff there. I don't know if 924 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: you heard what Jeff Figgles said yesterday, Dave Uh David 925 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: that Uh that the Texans they ran all kinds of 926 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: different stuff that they did practice for and that they 927 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: picked that up. You heard him say that yesterday rested. Well, yeah, 928 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: Jeff and I would talk and Jeff had lunched with 929 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: the happened to be sitting with the offensive line coach 930 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: yesterday and he said, the first first five series of 931 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: first five plays, they came in with the Giants with 932 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: five different things that the Giants never prepared. Yeah. I 933 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 1: noticed that right away, and that's something that I wrote 934 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: it right from the start. The first third down, what 935 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 1: they did was they Basically, a lot of teams who 936 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: are three four teams do this. They call it like 937 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: a radar. What they're trying to do is they're gonna 938 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 1: try to confuse the offensive line and the running backs 939 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 1: based upon who's walking around and shifting. Yeah, it works 940 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: when it's not Jadeveon clowning and j J. Watt walking around. 941 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: You see those guys standing up. As an offensive line, 942 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: You're like, we're blocking those guys. Those are our guys. 943 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: You're not gonna confuse running backs that way. Now, when 944 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: you have guys that are number fifty five and fifty 945 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: six and you're doing that with defensive different defensive lineman, 946 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: defensive ends, that's gonna confuse you more. But I said 947 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: right away, right from that first one that was what 948 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: was the third and four, I said, I hope the 949 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,240 Speaker 1: Texans defense does this radar thing the entire game, because 950 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: what does it do. It delays their time and their 951 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: action to get after the quarterback for that split second 952 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: and allows you as an offensive line to regroup, and 953 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: it gives that much more time to Eli to diagnose 954 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: where he wants to go with the football. Alright, Joe, Yeah, 955 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: that's why I was gonna stay there too, that that 956 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: that they were picking up these assignments and that, and 957 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 1: do you think here now we have Greco. I'm glad 958 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: he's the veterom that he picked it up. Do you 959 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: think the guy we left go to UH Minnesota would 960 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: be doing as good David now or no? Well, if 961 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: you're talking hypothetical, I mean it is a hypothetical. But 962 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: there was nothing that you can do to knock John 963 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: Greco in the way that he played on Sunday. Yeah, 964 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: there's nothing. It was his first game stepping in to 965 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: start at center for this offense, and he did it seamlessly. 966 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: So to sit here and say, oh, well, do I 967 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: think Brett Jones could have done it better? There was 968 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: nothing to be critical of the way that Greco played. 969 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: To sit here and go through that comparison, let listen, 970 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 1: you and I have said it at length last season 971 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 1: this season, we both love Brett Jones. Love him. I mean, 972 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, terrific guy, very good player. You used to 973 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: talk about. Here's coming from a big his point of attack, leverage. 974 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: But having said that, they made the decision and they 975 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: did him a favor sending him to you know where 976 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: he was going to get a chance to play and 977 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: start sending him to Minnesota. They went with uh Lapio, Fine, 978 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: so that's that was the situation. Unfortunately he got hurt. 979 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: So now you gotta deal with what you're being dealt with. 980 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: But the thing is they went with Lapio because he 981 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: won the bad that was the only thing. And then 982 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: when you look back and you think of Brett Jones, yeah, 983 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: I understand where you're saying, well, now he could have 984 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: filled in, but John Greco was backing up both guards 985 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: in the center position. He filled in and he got 986 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: it done. That you're still in the same spot that 987 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: you would have been if Brett Jones was here, and 988 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 1: you still have a seventh round draft pick from it. 989 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: And that's what exactly why John Greco is a backup, 990 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: a veteran backup where they know here's a guy who 991 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: can come in in exactly this type of situation, get 992 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: the job. They get the job done and weather the storm. Absolutely. 993 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,720 Speaker 1: Let's go to Trenton and speak with Big Mark. Big Mark, 994 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: how are we doing? You're on with Russ and Dave? 995 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: How are you doing? A man? I'm doing all right? 996 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: Listen what Dave? You pretty much answered my question. I 997 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: was gonna ask about the pros and kinds of Chad 998 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: Wheeler's game and like what what what can he work on? 999 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: Like what how was his hand placement in certain things 1000 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: like that? Like what did you notice Dave Well, obviously 1001 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 1: he was a much better run blocker than a past blocker. 1002 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: That's something that we all know. But the one thing 1003 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: that I've consistently not only watched on film, but I've 1004 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: had discussions with him about is is giving up inside 1005 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: if giving up inside body presence and oversetting on your 1006 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: defensive end, regardless of whether it's J. J. Watt or 1007 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: somebody else you're going up against. If you get outside 1008 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: of the framework of the defensive end, you're giving him 1009 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: a two way go with inside leverage, where if you 1010 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: run them by, you could either redirect restart his rush 1011 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 1: on the outside, or we used to say ride the bull, 1012 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: hold on and run them by for at least a 1013 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: second where you have a fighting chance at the tackle position. 1014 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: When you don't tie your hands and your feet together 1015 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,919 Speaker 1: and you give up inside pressure, it's over. So that's 1016 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 1: one of the areas that he still needs to be 1017 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: consistent with, is making sure he stays inside out of 1018 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 1: the framework of the defensive end, and then from that 1019 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: point on, making sure that when he does make the 1020 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: initial contact contact with an end, that he gets his 1021 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: legs and his paths underneath him so he has the 1022 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: leverage to stop a bull rush. You know, Mark, or 1023 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: I should say, big Mark, don't big Mark? People you 1024 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: know and you got Dave here to tell you about it. 1025 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: I don't, you know. And this is for as long 1026 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: as I'm covering football, and that's a long time. I 1027 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: don't think people fully grasp how difficult it is to 1028 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: play on the offensive line. I mean, it is a 1029 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: very very difficult position. And you can't be a knucklehead. 1030 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm not pointing, no, no, no, Absolutely, you've got to 1031 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: be Yeah, you've got to be on Q. You've got 1032 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: to be smart, and you've got to know what not 1033 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: only what all five and the old line are doing, 1034 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: but you've got to know what everybody else is doing 1035 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 1: on the team too. You know. There were certain times 1036 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: that people are like, oh, would you ever listen to 1037 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: route combinations? I would listen to some of them because 1038 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: if I hear what are tight end or why is 1039 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,240 Speaker 1: going on either a y stick or for wide receivers 1040 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: coming in on a quick slant. I know that I 1041 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: have to get this defensive end's hands down so he 1042 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: doesn't batten, and it almost picks it off. So there 1043 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: are things that you're listening to in the rhythm of 1044 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: a game that it's not just Oh, I need to 1045 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: block my defensive end, so I need to block my 1046 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: defense v and I need to get his hands down. 1047 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: We're running a quick slant, tight ends coming over the top. 1048 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: I don't want him to touch the ball in the 1049 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: crossing round. Okay, Mark, thank you, thanks for taking big Mark. 1050 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: Let's go now up to Courtland, New York and check 1051 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: in with Dennis. Hello, Dennis, how are you today? Hey, gentlemen, 1052 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: how are you good? What's going right? Then? Hey? I? 1053 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to I'm very happy 1054 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: about the wind. I got a small complaint, like what say, 1055 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm very happy about the wind obviously first and foremost, um, 1056 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: but I wanted to ask you guys what you thought 1057 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: about this. There's there's only a couple of things that 1058 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: really drive me crazy when I'm watching the football game, 1059 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: and I have to say. Number one on that list 1060 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: is what I call webel lobble football, where guys just 1061 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: bump into people instead of wrapping their arms around them. 1062 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: What the heck is wrong with Riley's arms? Why can't 1063 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: he wrap somebody up and put arms around somebody. I 1064 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: don't get it. It's a great question because if you don't, 1065 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: you come in high and you don't have leverage, you 1066 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: are gonna get crisp contact like we saw on Monday night. 1067 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: But you're right, and that's something that is a lost art, 1068 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: especially when you're looking at some of the corner positions, 1069 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: the art of tackling, and that's something that not only 1070 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 1: have certain areas and certain players struggled, it's been almost 1071 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: a struggle across the league. In the NFL because a 1072 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: lot of the guys who are starters didn't play during 1073 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: the preseason and they're now missing tackles that now once 1074 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: you start getting into the week three, week four, they're 1075 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: in training campaig is when I should have been there 1076 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: starting week one. You know, Dennis, you kind of open 1077 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: up the garage door for us, and you know, I'll 1078 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: bring it up seriously. I'll bring it up with with 1079 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: David here. You're talking about tackling. Well, listen, the NFL 1080 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 1: needs to do something about tackling. And because I will 1081 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: tell you this and I usually don't get into it 1082 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: because sometimes it's hard to call. But Clay Matthews has 1083 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: been involved in all three and to me, each each 1084 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 1: penalty each week has was a worse call than the 1085 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 1: week before. I mean this, this past week, he you 1086 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: saw him go into the quarterback. He made sure to 1087 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: put him head down, He made sure not to get 1088 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: into it. He basically and he basically laid the guy down, 1089 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: falling on him, and they called the penalty. It was 1090 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 1: the most you know, Tony Dungee brought it up at 1091 00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 1: halftime and he said, you know what they what the 1092 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 1: league wants to make sure is somebody's not thrown down 1093 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: and thrown hard into the ground. This they laid the 1094 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: guy down, so in fairness. Now, now Riley is a 1095 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 1: different situation, but it's getting to a point where a 1096 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: lot of football players are saying this is not football 1097 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to spell this out and fix 1098 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: it because it's bad. Wrong. The biggest problem with this 1099 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,919 Speaker 1: is the biggest problem with this is number one, Just 1100 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: like the seasons in the past, what's a catch, what's 1101 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 1: not a catch? It's the consistency of the call you 1102 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: have paying basically supplex in the same game Aaron Rodgers, 1103 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 1: and the flag is not thrown, which is identical to 1104 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: what they're saying the rule and the flag is And 1105 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 1: then you have Clay Matthews in that same game form 1106 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: tackle headed across lower hits in the perfect strike zone 1107 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: and that's a flag. That's the issue that there's no consistency. 1108 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,919 Speaker 1: And the last thing I will say is these quarterbacks 1109 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, the minute that they get hit, 1110 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: they're looking over to the when they're selling it. Am 1111 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 1: I getting the flag? Oh h? But then after the 1112 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 1: game they're going on the press conference and the podium saying, well, 1113 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: it should have been a call. We don't want to 1114 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: be hit that way because at that juncture in the game, 1115 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna benefit it's gonna benefit them. You can't have 1116 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: your cake and eat it too. But I've never you know, 1117 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: usually the games that obviously I'm really interested in are 1118 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: the ones I'm covering, and that's certainly, you know, the Giants. 1119 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 1: But I'm watching some of these calls and and Dennis, 1120 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: it just leaves me, you know, scratching my head. And 1121 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: thank you for the call, buddy, Really appreciate you. You 1122 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,919 Speaker 1: bring it okay, But but I have to tell you, Dave, 1123 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: I looked at the call, and then I looked at 1124 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: it over and over and over it again, and I'm saying, 1125 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: what are you looking at? Yeah, like you know, in 1126 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: fairness and we it's not just a football, it's it's 1127 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: in baseball. It's very easy to go back and look 1128 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: at slow motion. These guys aren't looking at it in 1129 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: slow motion. They're looking at it in actual time. I 1130 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 1: get that, but some of these are so blatantly wrong. 1131 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a difference to say pick up and 1132 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: slamming another thing to say body weight. How are you 1133 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: gonna stop your body weight when you're running through a 1134 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: quarterback or a wide receiver not falling on top of him? 1135 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: And you know what, it brought me back to, probably 1136 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: back to horrible flashbacks. Matthias Kiwanuka Vince Young. Matthias Kiwanuka 1137 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: has a sack, thinks he's about to get a penalty. 1138 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: Let's go Vince Young. Vince Young scrambles converts the first 1139 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: down they score on that drive, games over, we lose 1140 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,919 Speaker 1: the game. You know, It's it's really it's it's got 1141 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 1: to be fixed because this this is getting out of control. 1142 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: And I hate to say this because they certainly don't 1143 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: want to do it. If it's gonna be this bad, 1144 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna get to a point where they're gonna have 1145 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: to have reviewable penalties, and that's been hoping up a 1146 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: whole You can't have that. And and it's also getting 1147 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: to the point with pretty soon. If it's gonna be 1148 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: like this, you might as well just put practice jerseys 1149 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: on quarterbacks. But the beanies are the flags on them, 1150 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: by no. But but it's just I'll tell you what. 1151 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't get so agitated over that stuff. But I'm 1152 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: looking at it and I'm saying, my god, dave football 1153 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But it's football, and that's your job as 1154 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman is to protect the quarterback. You have 1155 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: somebody that that's their job. Play Matthews means nothing to me. 1156 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's not. But it's just the love passion 1157 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: for the game for him, I said, because he was 1158 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: not only not only is a great football player, but 1159 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: he's trying to do the right thing and he got 1160 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: screwed for it. So anyway, folks, that is a wrap 1161 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: on today for my buddy here. Two times Super Bowl champion, 1162 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 1: David Deal. I'm Rus Salzburg. Thanks for being part of 1163 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,959 Speaker 1: a big Blue kickoff live here on giants dot com 1164 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: until next week. It is bye bye, so long and farewell.