WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Petzing, Dobbs Reunite in Arizona

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<v Speaker 4>Two words are trending this evening, Ron Wolfley, Thursday Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently people are getting to jump on the Labor Day weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>presented by Santane Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford,

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<v Speaker 4>Paul calvic here, Ron Wolfley.

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<v Speaker 6>There, good evening, wolf What's going on, Paulie? A lot?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for asking, Oh boy, I mean a lot happening

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<v Speaker 4>in real time. This roster is evolving. I mean almost

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<v Speaker 4>nearly as we speak. We had another waiver claim this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 4>did we not. We had guys going to the injured reserve.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean this is going to be, I believe, a

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<v Speaker 4>season long exercise slash excursion. This roster is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be churned at every opportunity, true or false, Ron Wolfling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt about it, Pully, I would agree with

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<v Speaker 1>that assessment right now. You know, it was interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're going to play little Jonathan Gannon here,

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<v Speaker 1>a little JG in some of the cuts. Just listening

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<v Speaker 1>to him earlier in the day, you know, it made

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<v Speaker 1>me think of how exhausted this must be for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was going through his first, his first cutdown

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<v Speaker 1>day as the head coach of an NFL team. And Paully,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you right now, although not every head

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<v Speaker 1>coach gets to say goodbye to a player. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>them want to get to say goodbye to a player.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of like the third wave right

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<v Speaker 1>now for JG. When you think about it, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the cutdown of the original fifty three PAULI. Then of

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<v Speaker 1>course it was the waiver wire, and we all know that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you know what the Cardinals said, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty three. If they go out and they claim

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<v Speaker 1>a player or off the waiver wire, they also have

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<v Speaker 1>to let somebody go. So it was like the second wave.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's going to be I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming days free agent signings where they're still going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to cut down people. I think he's done with

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<v Speaker 1>a cutdown process.

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<v Speaker 4>No allegiances, we've gone with those two words the entire offseason.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Belichick has no days off, no allegiances. But it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean you have no affinity. To your point, you

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<v Speaker 4>get to know these guys. So that initial wave thirty

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<v Speaker 4>one players.

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<v Speaker 6>You let go.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure there were a ton of surprises in there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe just maybe a Davon Davis or a

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<v Speaker 4>Kadan Davis had a chance, or a Noah Tongii, a

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<v Speaker 4>Kyle Soley. You know there were names we're all familiar

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<v Speaker 4>with in that initial wave. They still haven't put a

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<v Speaker 4>long snapper on the official fifty three, so that's always curious.

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<v Speaker 4>David Blow, who has since gone back to Detroit, So

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<v Speaker 4>there's that out there. And then there was the next wave,

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<v Speaker 4>as you mentioned, because they went after waiver claims and

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<v Speaker 4>then they had to cut danly Arius, the undrafted rookie

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<v Speaker 4>receiving Marquise Hayes, who reportedly is back on the practice

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<v Speaker 4>squad as we speak, Javonte Moffat the safety, Ben Stilly,

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<v Speaker 4>the d lineman, Blake Whiteheart, who we both know they

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<v Speaker 4>like yes a lot, and we figure is gonna end

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<v Speaker 4>up back on the practice squad. But to your point,

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<v Speaker 4>here's Jonathan Gannon talking to the media and just talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the ever evolving fifty three man roster.

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<v Speaker 7>The rosters in flux all the time, you know what

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, And that goes back to we're going to

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<v Speaker 7>try to do what's best we can for the team. Always,

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<v Speaker 7>pieces gets shuffled around, pieces move who's up on game day,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's not just the fifty three, it's the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 7>It's how many guys are going to get a Jersey

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<v Speaker 7>on Washington, the roles that they serve, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of things that go into that, and our guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Know that, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>And then today you had an offensive lineman claimed by

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<v Speaker 4>the Cardinals, Carter O'Donnell from Indianapol. Yes, last three years,

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<v Speaker 4>he's been up and down between the active roster and

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<v Speaker 4>the practice squad. He's yet to play in a game.

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<v Speaker 4>And then along with that, you had a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>moves to the injured reserve my j Sanders with a hand,

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<v Speaker 4>Dennis Daily with the ankle. So they're eligible to come

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<v Speaker 4>back this year, but they must missed at least the

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<v Speaker 4>first four games.

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<v Speaker 1>PAULI, I think I want to go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>original fifty three, if that's okay with you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's a lot of moving parts going on,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was interesting because they only they

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<v Speaker 1>had fifty two on the roster, right, and that I

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<v Speaker 1>found very interesting because they kept twenty three offensively and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven defensively in two the punter and the kicker,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, two on special teams. And they cut their

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<v Speaker 1>deep snapper we all know that, of course, and Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Brewer they let him go, and of course they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to sign him back, and I think they have already

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, and he's going to be activated,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure come game time. It's interesting that twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>on the offense and twenty seven on the defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>was really shocked by that inequity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what does that tell you? Does that tell you

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<v Speaker 4>they're trying to throw numbers at some of those question marks,

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<v Speaker 4>some of those position groups on defense that are still unanswered, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, whether it's that backup safety or the cornerback position,

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<v Speaker 4>whether Marco Wilson is available at Dennis Gardek was out

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<v Speaker 4>on the field this week. But what exactly are you

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<v Speaker 4>looking at it? Outside linebacker defensive line. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to throw bodies at that solution, but what's that

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<v Speaker 4>rotation ultimately going to be. I don't know what sort

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<v Speaker 4>of conclusion can you draw from that, if any.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, once again, I think to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it had to be. But typically a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teams are not in the practice of saying, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a ton of edge players, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep a ton of edge players. Either they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be good enough to actually play at this level or

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to be good enough. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was really really an interesting tactic. And at Paully to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, you know, Manti assen Fort and JG they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a reason why they did what they did. They

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<v Speaker 1>kept seven defensive linemen. Now think about that, seven defensive

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<v Speaker 1>linemen on the act of fifty three, and we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think defensive line was a very deep position for them.

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<v Speaker 1>And they kept seven edge players as well, And we

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<v Speaker 1>don't look at the edge and think the Cardinals are

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<v Speaker 1>loaded on the edge right there, fourteen players they kept,

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<v Speaker 1>even the inside linebacker. And I can understand this a

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<v Speaker 1>lot because of the special teams element that comes into play,

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<v Speaker 1>but five inside linebackers were kept as well. I just

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<v Speaker 1>was very surprised to see more defensive players, considerably more

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<v Speaker 1>than offense.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you brought that up because I had this

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<v Speaker 4>out with Darren Urban during Cardinals Underground the podcast. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>Combat Vy san Calvic, but wait a minute, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>three to four. Why are you surprised there's seven outside linebackers?

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<v Speaker 4>And my rime response was, well, I sort of view

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<v Speaker 4>to Jesse Luketta and Victor d. Mukage as the same player.

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<v Speaker 6>It's either or.

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<v Speaker 4>I sort of looked at an Owen Papo and Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 4>Turner as either or. But I know these guys are

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<v Speaker 4>instrumental on special teams.

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<v Speaker 6>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know there's a Chris Barnes in that inside linebacker

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<v Speaker 4>room as well.

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<v Speaker 6>So sure we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're continuing to add players and then players are

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<v Speaker 4>continually cut. I get it, but we're burying the lead here.

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<v Speaker 4>The big move, obviously that got national attention was the

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<v Speaker 4>release of Colt McCoy and the trade for Josh Dobbs.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were on the air this time last week

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<v Speaker 4>when it all came down. They gave up a fifth

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<v Speaker 4>round pick to Cleveland. They brought in Josh Dobbs, who

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<v Speaker 4>has familiarity both with the offensive coordinator Drew Petsen, who

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<v Speaker 4>was a quarterbacks coach the last couple of years in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 4>Israel Wolfork, the current quarterbacks coach, and then of course

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<v Speaker 4>the GM Monijasin Ford, who signed Josh Dobbs in Tennessee

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<v Speaker 4>to start the last two games of last season. So

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<v Speaker 4>just your takeaway on that acquisition.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Paulie, you know, once again I thought that Colt

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<v Speaker 1>McCoy was going to be the starting quarterback going into

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<v Speaker 1>week one, largely because of who he is as a leader,

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<v Speaker 1>how long he's been in the league, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of the better minds, of course in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League in regard to seeing every defense known

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<v Speaker 1>to man and maybe executing every offense known to man

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I thought it was going to be his

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<v Speaker 1>experience largely that would take him into week number one

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<v Speaker 1>as the starter. That is not the case. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you are very familiar as to why. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you have your own take on this and your own

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<v Speaker 1>beliefs on this, and I think you're right on it, PAULI.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that that is the case, and we know

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<v Speaker 1>that Colt McCoy has been released, bringing in Josh Dobbs,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was very very interesting. This is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that is a rocket scientist. Of course we all know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, anytime you hear a code say

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<v Speaker 1>it's not rocket science, guess what he means it when

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking to Josh Dobbs, No doubt about it. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, once again, it's going to be interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see how this quarterback battle shakes out going forward. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a faith to compleae. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a done deal that Josh Dobbs is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the starter going into week one. But once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Colt McCoy was going to be the starter.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, Josh Doabbs has a degree in aerospace engineering

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<v Speaker 4>from Tennessee and he's done internships with NASA through the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL Players Association. So big brain, big big brain on

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Dobbs has no doubt about it. In fact, speaking

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<v Speaker 4>of who is QB one, I firmly believe it's his

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<v Speaker 4>job to lose. When Dobbs was asked about that, he

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<v Speaker 4>simply said, you know what, I put those expectations on myself.

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<v Speaker 8>Every time myself in the building, I put starting expectations

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<v Speaker 8>on myself. So I know the QB situation is going

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<v Speaker 8>to play out however the coaches see fit. But for me,

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<v Speaker 8>you not come in ready to compete every single day.

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<v Speaker 6>I push myself.

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<v Speaker 8>But also, you know, approached the room in that way,

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<v Speaker 8>and so I'm excited to be a part of it

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<v Speaker 8>and be a part of the team.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought that it was Colt McCoy's job to

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<v Speaker 4>lose as well. And that's exactly what happened in Minnesota

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<v Speaker 4>during the two joint practices.

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<v Speaker 5>Wolf.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think that he did not slam the door

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<v Speaker 4>shut and make up the mind of the decision makers

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<v Speaker 4>to the during those two joint practices were actually, we're

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<v Speaker 4>more regular season football then you would get in a

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<v Speaker 4>preseason game. He was going against starters. Brian Flores was

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<v Speaker 4>dialing it up, giving him regular season looks. It didn't

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<v Speaker 4>go real well, it improved a little bit on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you listened to the Cardinals and they told

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<v Speaker 4>the media they had interest in Josh Dobbs the entirety

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<v Speaker 4>of the offseason, my guess is they got done with

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<v Speaker 4>that second practice, said you know what, we got to

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<v Speaker 4>pull the trigger. Cleveland didn't want to let him go.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, they even named him the backup quarterback beyond

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<v Speaker 4>Deshaun Watson, and about three hours after he was named

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<v Speaker 4>the number two quarterback, the deal was done and he

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<v Speaker 4>was going to Arizona and Dorian Thompson Rominson, the UCA rookie,

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<v Speaker 4>moved up the depth chart in Cleveland and for a

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<v Speaker 4>fifth round pick, Boom, he is property of the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the only thing I'll say about that quickly is

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<v Speaker 1>guess what that was. Great leverage by the Cleveland Browns

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<v Speaker 1>to say always our backup quarterback. By the way, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take a fifth round pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Episode sixty two of The Day Pash Podcast featuring All

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<v Speaker 4>Pro safety Buddha Baker. It's available now via your preferred

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're just getting started on the whole QB

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<v Speaker 4>one thing. To your point, I think Clayton tune is

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<v Speaker 4>definitely in the mix. What happened this preseason that might

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<v Speaker 4>improve his odds. We'll get to that, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>make a comparison josh Dobbs to a current NFL quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>when we come back the Big Red Rage presented by

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<v Speaker 4>Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 2>Shatka.

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<v Speaker 9>Dobbs third and six steps up throws a k ball

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<v Speaker 9>top Treo card.

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<v Speaker 4>With the gram a rainbow from Toms.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job by Joshua Dobbs to be able to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>the football to the outside for McMath to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to haul to the turf.

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<v Speaker 9>As he's catching the ball tops deep drop, He'll throw

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<v Speaker 9>to the near side, catch me.

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<v Speaker 7>What turns it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Mail for the touchdown.

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<v Speaker 9>Joshua Toms coun time and delivers for the score. It

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<v Speaker 9>is the first NFL touchdown for Joshua Dobbs.

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<v Speaker 4>In his first career NFL start. Joshua Dobbs at is

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<v Speaker 4>IGN Eagle Westwood won. That was the end of last season,

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<v Speaker 4>second to last game of the season. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 4>started the final two games of the year for the

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<v Speaker 4>Tennessee Titans. Did not have a lot of talent around him,

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<v Speaker 4>the worst receivers room in the league, and he still

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<v Speaker 4>went out there and those two games combined forty to

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<v Speaker 4>sixty eight passing, four to eleven through the air, two touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 4>two picks. Passer rating his seventy four. He was sacked

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<v Speaker 4>six times, had a long of thirty nine yards, ran

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<v Speaker 4>it eight times for forty four yards. We'll get into

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<v Speaker 4>that in a minute. It's a big Red Rage presented

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<v Speaker 4>by santan Ford in Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul Kelvic,

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<v Speaker 4>Ron Wolfley, and Josh Dopps, a guy who was big

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<v Speaker 4>time in the SEC. Ron Wolfly did you know a

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<v Speaker 4>fun Factory. He's one of three quarterbacks in SEC history

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<v Speaker 4>to throw for fifteen plus touchdowns and rush for ten

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<v Speaker 4>plus touchdowns in multiple seasons. The others Tim Tebow and

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<v Speaker 4>Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good company right there, Pauli.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's another one where he's like one of four

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<v Speaker 4>in SEC history, and then the fourth one is Johnny Manziel,

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<v Speaker 4>So he's got some elite company in SEC history. Josh Dobbs,

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<v Speaker 4>he was a fourth round pick seven years ago by

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<v Speaker 4>the Steelers, was a backup to Big Ben. He's look,

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<v Speaker 4>he's with U sixteen. Cardinals are his sixteen. He's never

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<v Speaker 4>really had that chance to flourish. And I'm gonna throw

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<v Speaker 4>out this out there. You might want to take my

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<v Speaker 4>car keys. I'm just gonna throw it out there. This

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<v Speaker 4>is the absolute upside, best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Geno Smith, Okay, a guy, Geno Smith who sat for

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<v Speaker 4>seven years in fact, actually when eight years between opening

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<v Speaker 4>day starts. Geno Smith, but after watching for all those years,

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<v Speaker 4>came out balled out last year, went to the Pro Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>He was just rated the number seventy seven player in

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<v Speaker 4>the top one hundred in the NFL. From obscurity to

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden the starting franchise quarterback for the

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<v Speaker 4>Seattle Seahawks. Now, that would be a crazy set of

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<v Speaker 4>expectations to put on Josh Dopps. But if you listen

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<v Speaker 4>to him, and you listen to the way he talks

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<v Speaker 4>to the media about what he learned in those two starts,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Cardinals are at least intrigued enough to

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<v Speaker 4>give up that fifth round pick and run him out

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<v Speaker 4>there against Washington week one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe that is going to be the case, PAULI.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to wait and see. But always keep in

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<v Speaker 1>mind that Josh Dobbs did not go to West by

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<v Speaker 1>God Virginia. Okay, sat On, he's got that while he's

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<v Speaker 1>got that working against him right now, Paully. But the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing we do know about Josh Dobbs, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a rocket scientist. Once again, this is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>is incredibly smart. You know what's amazing about this, PAULI,

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<v Speaker 1>When when you really stop and think about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was something that Josh Dobbs was actually talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But quarterback is probably the most difficult position to play

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<v Speaker 1>in all of professional sports. Would you agree with that? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. It is so cerebral, It is

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<v Speaker 1>intensive when it comes to understanding the game of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and being involved in the offense and calling the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It is unbelievable, and yet I would imagine being a

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<v Speaker 1>rocket scientist Polly is ten times harder than that. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of situations that you can look at

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<v Speaker 1>and say, man, you know what, this rocket science stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is easy compared to something else. So I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be actually something that Josh Dobbs is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to help not only himself, but

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<v Speaker 1>also the other guys that are inside that room, and

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<v Speaker 1>help Drew Patsing as well. These quarterbacks learn the offense well.

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<v Speaker 4>His Meat and Great press conference with the media, Cam

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<v Speaker 4>Cox from Channel twelve. Cam He asked him, He said,

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<v Speaker 4>does it help playing quarterback to be a rocket scientist?

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<v Speaker 4>Sort of half joking, half serious, and Dobbs said, absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>it does because it's the ultimate problem solving position in

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<v Speaker 4>all of the sports, quarterback.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you want to know.

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<v Speaker 4>About smart and high IQ, how about asking a guy

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<v Speaker 4>from stand right, zach Ertz here on his first impression

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<v Speaker 4>of Josh Dobbs.

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<v Speaker 10>Yay, smart, obviously, I think that's well noted. He's an

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<v Speaker 10>astronaut or whatever he is. He the guy that understands football.

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<v Speaker 10>He's played a lot of football. He's got a really

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<v Speaker 10>good grasp of this offense. Obviously he's played it in

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<v Speaker 10>the past, so him coming into the huddle, calling the plays,

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<v Speaker 10>calling the formations has been seamless so far. And he

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<v Speaker 10>throws a very catch football, which as a receiver you like.

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<v Speaker 4>And look in the past, he's had the nickname past

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<v Speaker 4>or not though even though he's an aerospace engineer, he's

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<v Speaker 4>not actually an astronaut. But it's good stuff. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 4>know who quibbles with some of the fine details. It's

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<v Speaker 4>great stuff, and that's probably where he's going once he's

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<v Speaker 4>done playing ball. But he's aged twenty eight and he

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<v Speaker 4>feels like he does have some good ball ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love that, Paul, I really do, because once

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<v Speaker 1>again I would imagine just rocket science, Paul, and I

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<v Speaker 1>keep calling it that, but you know what, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>too good because coaches always saying this isn't rocket science, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just to me, that's got to be really,

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. Is it possible that he looks at at

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<v Speaker 1>rocket science and going, man, that's that's really hard. Quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL not so hard to learn, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? So that that to me

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<v Speaker 1>is an interesting dynamic because most of the time a

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<v Speaker 1>human being is looking at quarterback in the National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League going, Matt, this is this is involved. This is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to know all sorts of matchups and alterations

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<v Speaker 1>and checks and audibles that I've got to be ready

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<v Speaker 1>to call at a drop of a hat. And remembering

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<v Speaker 1>all that, of course, and the concepts that go behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>None of that comes anywhere close to what Josh Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>is probably going to be doing for NASA when he's

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<v Speaker 1>done so tech.

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine that helps him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, take all that, all the all the challenges you

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<v Speaker 4>just cited, and he has a two week timeframe to

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<v Speaker 4>get ready to be the Cardinals starting quarterback against the

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<v Speaker 4>Washington defensive front on the road that features four first

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<v Speaker 4>round picks. Okay, think about all that. And when he

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<v Speaker 4>was asked about he was completely unfazed. He actually said,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was dead serious.

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<v Speaker 7>Nah.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, what gives me stress in this whole situation is

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in a new town. Where am I gonna eat dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Where am I going to figure out? Where am I

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<v Speaker 4>going out? Because I don't know the town. So that

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<v Speaker 4>combined with the fact he's been there and done that,

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<v Speaker 4>just the end of last season. He had eight days

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<v Speaker 4>notice after he was signed by the Titans and then

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<v Speaker 4>started two games at the end of the year. He

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<v Speaker 4>didn't even know that system, at least this system. He

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<v Speaker 4>knows the offensive coordinator, Drew Petsing real well. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>he was asked about the importance of that.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I spent a lot of time with Drew

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<v Speaker 8>last year as he was my QB coach in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 8>and so coming into that offense, learning that offense from

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<v Speaker 8>him and now coming here and getting his own spinning

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<v Speaker 8>variation is very unique, especially with the relationship that we

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<v Speaker 8>had as well as he was in that room as well.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's good to have that relationship, especially quarterback to

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<v Speaker 8>play caller right and understanding why he's calling plays, why

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<v Speaker 8>he's installing plays, what variation he's put on the offense

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<v Speaker 8>is why he's doing that, and so it makes it

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<v Speaker 8>as smooth as a transition as it can be. But

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<v Speaker 8>there always are different bumps in the road that you

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<v Speaker 8>have to manage and navigate.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not like he's coming off his couch. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>this isn't. Forty five year old Vinnie Testa verdies some

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<v Speaker 4>twenty years ago showing up on a Wednesday and trying

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<v Speaker 4>to play on Sunday. He went through the entirety of

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<v Speaker 4>training camp. He knows this system, so that definitely gives

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<v Speaker 4>him advantage. Now, obviously didn't take a single snap and

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<v Speaker 4>the preseason wasn't there for any of the Cardinals camps,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's very unique, there's no question about it. But

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<v Speaker 4>there was a quote from Jonathan Gannon and he said

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<v Speaker 4>this multiple times Wolf when asked about Josh Dobbs and

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<v Speaker 4>what intrigues him about the quarterback, what he likes, and

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<v Speaker 4>the first thing he cites is, and I'm quoting him,

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<v Speaker 4>he can make plays inside and outside the pocket. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's more important to the head coach than we realize.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that was a factor in moving on from

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<v Speaker 4>Colt McCoy. I think that's the reason they are intrigued

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<v Speaker 4>by Clayton Tune. He does have enough mobility. He did

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<v Speaker 4>run for quite a few yards at Houston. Saw him,

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<v Speaker 4>especially in those Vikings joint practices. Get away from that

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<v Speaker 4>Vikings pass rush, extend the play in fuying guys downfield.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are aspects that were not in Colt McCoy's game

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<v Speaker 4>at this point in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Pauli.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great observation once again, because when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, to your point, you've got Josh Dobbs and

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<v Speaker 1>his mobility, and you've got Clayton Tune and we all

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<v Speaker 1>saw it in the preseason his mobility as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in time when Kyler comes back his

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<v Speaker 1>mobility right there, that's certainly not a coincidence. That is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely JG looking for the same kind of skill set

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<v Speaker 1>where maybe you can be a dual threat a run

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<v Speaker 1>pass quarterback, of course, as a lot of quarterbacks are

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL today, but also too, JG was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about command and production, those two things specifically command and production,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just know that Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>Dobbs has got command, Paulie.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to be able to step into a high

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<v Speaker 1>you have to speak clearly, you've got to speak loudly,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got to know what you're calling in the huddle.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to know it, and you've got to know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the other guys' jobs on that certain

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<v Speaker 1>play and help them out if they forget it. And

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<v Speaker 1>you also have to have command of the offense to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where you might want to challenge a coach

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<v Speaker 1>on the sideline saying, let's not run that play, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>run this play. And to me, that's not the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing that can happen for an offense. To have your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback understand it as well as the coach understands it

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge advantage, and Josh Dobbs seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that might be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, I firmly think, and this is just my belief,

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<v Speaker 4>it's definitely his job to lose. That being the case,

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<v Speaker 4>it is being termed a quarterback competition right now with

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<v Speaker 4>Clayton Tune. Do you think that is a possibility Clayton

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<v Speaker 4>Tuone actually be eating out of Josh Dobbs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>what sort of realistic chance do you attach to that?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, bully.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great question right there, really is, because tell

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<v Speaker 1>me when Kyler Murray's coming back, Because honestly, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to tell me this, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about this, and there's been no leak about this whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 1>but if Kyler Murray was coming back week five, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say that against the Cincinnati Bengals, he was coming

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<v Speaker 1>back week five, you know what I'd want to see

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton tune. As much as I could possibly see Clayton tone,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd want to give him as many reps as we

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<v Speaker 1>possibly could before Kyler would get back. But that not

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<v Speaker 1>being the case. We don't know that Kyler Murray's coming

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<v Speaker 1>back in week five. So now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to throw it up to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's find out who commands this offense the best over

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<v Speaker 1>these two weeks and who looks like they're capable of

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<v Speaker 1>providing production.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, you called all three preseason games right vance Joseph

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Spagnolo and than Brian Flores. Were those vanilla schemes?

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<v Speaker 4>They they brought it right? Yes, times, they really.

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<v Speaker 6>Dialed it up. I asked.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked the head coach about that today, and he agreed.

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<v Speaker 4>He said that was not vanilla football. He said that

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<v Speaker 4>Clayton saw a lot and he benefited from him because,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, he got more of a regular season

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<v Speaker 4>read on what NFL football is all about being a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to diagnose and decide as a quarterback. So, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>how much more regular season ready does that make a

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<v Speaker 4>Clayton tune?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if Brock Perdy would have played in Week

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<v Speaker 4>one instead of Week twelve last year? Would things have

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<v Speaker 4>been different? Was he ready from Week one? Single game

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<v Speaker 6>How about Buddha Baker on the Pash Pot.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna visit some of that next on the Big

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<v Speaker 4>Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 9>Picked off with the thirty by Buddha running back the

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<v Speaker 9>other way forty fifty forty Baker thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>Cuts right, pent tackled at the twenty five?

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<v Speaker 5>What art?

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<v Speaker 2>What rents?

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<v Speaker 6>Budha Baker?

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<v Speaker 5>This guy's unbelievable discipline, accountability, A team that's just gonna

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<v Speaker 5>play very fast, a team that doesn't care about what

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<v Speaker 5>anybody else thinks. Everybody that's in that circle, everybody that's

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<v Speaker 5>in that huddle, those are the only ones that matter,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're just gonna play football at a high level.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely believe that one hundred of strength.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Dave Pash on the call Huda Baker with a

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<v Speaker 4>SoundBite there from the Dave Pash Podcast, which has just

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<v Speaker 4>dropped great stuff from the Cardinals All Pro safety talking

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<v Speaker 4>about his game, just the reset of this Cardinals roster

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<v Speaker 4>where he believes the team is going what's in store

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<v Speaker 4>this season, and we'll review some of that here on

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<v Speaker 4>the Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 4>We are santan Ford, Paul calvic Ron Wolfley. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know about you, Wolf because you're over in the TV booth, right,

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 4>you're over in the high end real estate part of

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<v Speaker 4>the You know, I'm just over there, Hamm and Egger,

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 4>you know me and Drew Stanton J.

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<v Speaker 6>Feely. Okay, you know, looking down there.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we'll get an acknowledgment from you and pass as

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 4>you guys go all Hollywood over there. But here's mode

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<v Speaker 4>I always discover in the preseason watching, is you forget

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<v Speaker 4>you forget how automatic a Buddha Baker and a Jalen

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<v Speaker 4>Thompson are with the open field tackling. And then when

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<v Speaker 4>you see other safeties out there, backup safeties, dare I say,

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 4>lesser safeties, and you see how many tackles are missed

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<v Speaker 4>in space, and you just get a newfound appreciation for

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<v Speaker 4>your Pro Bowl caliber safeties that the Cardinals start every game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Pully, Yeah, you're so right about that they're called

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>safeties for a reason. They are the last line of

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<v Speaker 1>defense literally typically when you've got to make a tackle

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody's going to score a touchdown. And that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why, for the longest time, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best tacklers on your team, open field

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<v Speaker 1>tacklers had to be safeties, and Buddha Baker certainly is that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take Buddha Baker, I'll take him out. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if he's in the box. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>he's coming down from the secondary, coming down and filling

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<v Speaker 1>the D gap. I don't care what it is that

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing right now. Buddha Baker is the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I want out on the field. In Jalen Thompson, the

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<v Speaker 1>respect that I have for him, here's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>we know, Paul. You can line up, you can put

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>him over the number three receiver, you can put him

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<v Speaker 1>over that slot receiver, and he's going to hold up

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<v Speaker 1>like a corner. It's such a huge advantage to have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that is not only a good tackler, not

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<v Speaker 1>only is a safety like Jalen Thompson, but also a

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<v Speaker 1>guy you can move to that nickel corner spot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's huge, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about scheme, I know you said many times that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>certain players really thrive in certain schemes.

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<v Speaker 6>Not Buddha Baker.

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<v Speaker 4>Playing virtue anything you throw out there. His new defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 4>thirty year old Nick Rowless, and and Dave asked Buddha

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<v Speaker 4>Baker just on working with the new young DC.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I will say Nick is a narrative football.

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<v Speaker 5>He really knows the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>He makes it very easy for the players to understand

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<v Speaker 5>the game within the calls. Guys, are you know, able

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<v Speaker 5>to understand it and play fast? And at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of the day, that's what he wants us to do.

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<v Speaker 5>He wants us to know what we're doing and after

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<v Speaker 5>that and just play as fast as we can because

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<v Speaker 5>we have the talent, we have the players to play fast,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, he kind of gives it upon us

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<v Speaker 5>to of course know our job and then just play

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<v Speaker 5>football after that.

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<v Speaker 4>Buddha Baker in the Day Pasch podcast. You know a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit we've come to learn about Nick Rowless. His

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<v Speaker 4>fellow coaches call him quote at assassin, So I'll take

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<v Speaker 4>that as he's going to be ultra aggressive this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the gut feeling you get. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 4>him in action and regular season action yet, but what

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<v Speaker 4>do you expect in terms of this scheme. We've talked

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<v Speaker 4>a lot about the offense, what about the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great observation right there, Pauli. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say this right here. If you're always blitzing, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>always coming after, if you're always the assassin, doesn't that

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<v Speaker 1>make it more likely that a team will be more

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for you to do it. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a pick and choose. I could be wrong

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<v Speaker 1>on this, Paul, I really could, But you know, surprise

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<v Speaker 1>and the element of surprise is also now that seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be nick rawlis to me right now. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Buddha is talking about know your job

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<v Speaker 1>and to be able to play fast. Typically you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a ton of checks in a defense like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're able to go out there and play fast typically,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you're simplifying your defense, and maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. I don't know. He is aggressive. We

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<v Speaker 1>all know he's aggressive. I love the fact he puts

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<v Speaker 1>his hood up when he's actually calling a game.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I love that ball. He looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>An assassin, no doubt about that. But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be interesting to see how he does

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<v Speaker 1>this because just like the offense, where you have to

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<v Speaker 1>tailor your offense with the talent you have, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing defensively. You just can't go willy nilly aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to have corners that will hold up with

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<v Speaker 1>that aggression as well. And just don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be quite as aggressive with that defense from

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<v Speaker 1>the get.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's a great observation.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, whether it's Buddha, Jalen, Thompson, Zavi and Collins,

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 4>we've all heard him over the last few months talk

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<v Speaker 4>about how they feel more free. That's the word they use.

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<v Speaker 4>Free to play in this scheme that JG and Nick

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<v Speaker 4>Rolis don't give the players every possible outcome of every

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 4>possible play that's going to be run by the offense,

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 4>they're going to have to think and react. They want

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 4>that quick reaction time. They don't want them to hesitate

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 4>at all because they're wondering, Okay, which one of an

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<v Speaker 4>infinite number of checks am I going into. And so

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<v Speaker 4>that's interesting to see how that plays out. In the

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<v Speaker 4>field speaking of the defensive quarter of Nick Rollis. Be

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<v Speaker 4>for Buddha, back to the Day Past podcast, we thought

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<v Speaker 4>this was intriguing what he told Dave just about his

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 4>off season regiment.

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 5>After the Pro Bowl. I kind of just set my

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 5>mind on working hard and getting my body right. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, of course I gained about fifteen pounds of

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<v Speaker 5>muscle sprinting, My acceleration has all gotten better, as fast

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 5>as I've ever been, as quick as I've ever been,

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 5>as strong as I've ever been, can jump higher than

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 5>I ever have, and you know, I just feel very healthy,

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<v Speaker 5>feel very blessed to you know, put that work in

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<v Speaker 5>and you know the season's coming up. The season's here,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm definitely excited to showcase that. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if he's new and improved like that, we're

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 4>talking about a five time Pro bol or two time

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<v Speaker 4>All Pro safety, a guy who over the last five

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 4>years has more than one hundred tackles beyond any other

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<v Speaker 4>safety in the NFL. I mean, like, get your popcorn ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, fifteen pounds of muscle Paul on and a guy

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>like Buddha Baker, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I mean, and he has all the same speed

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 4>and agility. I've told you how many times in the

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 4>sideline you're like.

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<v Speaker 6>Whoa where did that guy come from? Wow?

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 4>And it was Buddha Baker. I mean, just you know,

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 4>like you say, running into the darkness, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul, There's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know a lot of guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>under two hundred pounds, And I know Buddha is hovering

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>right around there, But I don't know a lot of

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>guys that could put on fifteen pounds. Now, if you

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>were two hundred and fifty pounds, yeah, you know, and

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I put on fifteen pounds of muscle, I can understand

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>that if you were two hundred and eighty pounds yeah,

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I needed to get to three hundred and I put

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>on muscle, and a lot of guys have done that before.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when you come into the league and

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you weigh one hundred and ninety pounds or one hundred

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and eighty five pounds, you know, typically you're not putting

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>non fifteen pounds and Buddha Baker certainly is doing that

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>right now. That to me, if he's accurate on that, Polly,

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>what an incredible thing that's going to be because right

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>now he's already a guy that will wipe you out.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine fifteen pounds of muscle he's on him now?

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<v Speaker 4>He's listed at one ninety four, So if we were

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 4>to think he was playing around oneint eighty in the

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 4>last couple of years, that would make sense. And so okay,

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean I believe him. I don't think he's embellishing.

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's exaggerating on that. So hello, we

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 4>all want to see what that looks like. There's no question,

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, by the way, speaking in the safety spot,

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 4>when you look at some of the waiver claims, it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard not to notice Keevon Wallace, who just spent the

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 4>last three years with the Eagles with Jonathan Gann and

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 4>Nick Rowlis twenty twenty round four pick out of Clemson.

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<v Speaker 4>He's played forty five games, seven starts. Now you put

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<v Speaker 4>him theoretically, I would presume, because you and I have

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 4>a lot of depth of safety obviously after trading away

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 4>Isaiah Simmons and cutting Javontae Moffatt. So now Keavon Wallace

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.720
<v Speaker 4>joins a Jalen Thompson and a Buddha Baker.

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<v Speaker 6>That's critical. Isn't a wolf because you might you might

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<v Speaker 6>have JT in the slot?

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<v Speaker 2>Is your nickel? Yeah, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it also tells me that maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>something else as well that is coming. Maybe there's another

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>shoe that is going to drop right here. We'll have

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to wait and see the other thing I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>say quickly, Paully, I am so encouraged and I'm I'm

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 1>cautiously optimistic about the defensive line. The defensive line in

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>particular with l J. Collier, Lucky Fotwo and Jonathan Ledbetter. Paully,

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I think these guys we were looking for it in

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.959
<v Speaker 1>the preseason game, that first preseason game against the Bronck

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of course, and then against the Chiefs, we were looking

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>for it, and man, when they were in there, there

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>was gap integrity. There was no doubt about it. And

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>we've all all off season been waiting to see, Hey,

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>is that going to be the case. We're thinking that

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>teams are going to be able to line up and

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>run the ball against the Cardinals, and how demoralizing it

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>is when a team can just line up and run

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>it down your throat, cram at vertical, so to speak.

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>It's demoralizing. But what I saw in preseason man week

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<v Speaker 1>number one, I'm gonna really be watching that to see

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>if that same gap integrity with LJ. Collier, Lucky Foto

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and Jonathan Ledbetter, if that exists when they play Washington,

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that to me will encourage me so much if they

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<v Speaker 1>can actually slow down the Commanders.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Because once again you lost half your sacks and JJ

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Watt and Zach Allen, So if you can get some penetration,

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 4>you can get some pressure trying to collapse that middle

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 4>from that pocket, from the middle, from the inside out.

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be so critical because you have some

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 4>unproven outside linebackers right now and guys making transitions like

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 4>a Zave and Collins, so I'm with you on that,

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 4>no question about it. And you know what an LJ.

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Collier just taking him as an example, a womer first

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.919
<v Speaker 4>round pick who said that he was in a bad

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 4>fit of a system in Seattle. So if it's a

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 4>matter of that a LeKi Fotu was in a contract

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 4>year and mandity play like it in Minnesota, he absolutely

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 4>dominated the starting center for the Vikings, Garrett Bradbury and

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 4>those one on one. So I'm with you, no doubt

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 4>about it. But I'll tell you there's a few other

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 4>waiver claims that came across in the last forty eight hours,

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 4>and these might be some guys who might make an.

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 6>Addition to the team.

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 4>And there's some intriguing scanner reports that is next on

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<v Speaker 4>the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 11>Hi, I'm Christopher Andandez and I'm called lit Bikini and

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 11>we're from ted Lasso, and we know I think or

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 11>two about football. Now, this is American football, right, so

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 11>we have no idea what we're doing here, but we having.

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<v Speaker 6>Lots of fun.

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<v Speaker 8>I moved one hundred and ninety seventh pick in the

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 8>two posid and twenty three NFL Draft.

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<v Speaker 11>The Miami Dolphins select Elijah Higgins tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford's football is life.

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 6>He's here, he's there, He's.

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Every freaking where Elijah Higgins. Elijah Higgins. Some great stuff

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 4>that was from the actual draft of Elijah Higgins out

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 4>of Stanford. Actors from Ted Lasso, while done, always enjoy

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 4>that when they incorporate the world of entertainment into the

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 4>NFL draft, especially on Day three, Wolf come on, there's

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 4>always room from some extra entertainment. And guess what Cardinals

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 4>I think are elated they got their hands on Elijah

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Higgins via a waivers considering he set some sort of

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 4>record where five teams try to claim him, but the

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 4>Cardinals of that number three slot, boom, they snap him

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 4>and added him to the roster. As we wrap up

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 4>this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by Santan

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, PAULI, and it's really interesting as well, because Elijah

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Higgins is six ' three and he's two hundred and

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty five pounds. PAULI, if you could put on fifteen

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>pounds right there, you know there's a guy that could

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<v Speaker 1>be a stud tight end, could be a move tight

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.479
<v Speaker 1>end as well. Right now, I see him more as

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>a move tight end at two hundred and thirty five pounds.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's going to be really interesting to watch Elijah

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Higgins in his career and where it goes from here.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 4>He's a former receiver, Jonathan Gannon confirmed today. No, he's

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 4>definitely a tight end. That's where the Cardinals are going

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 4>to play him. But he had good speed for a receiver,

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 4>much less a tight end, so he has that athleticism.

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 4>What's intriguing too, if you had zoom out in that

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 4>tight end room. I mean, well, if you have Jeff

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Swayman we had on last week, right, you're quintessential blocking

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 4>tight end. You have Zach Ertz, you know, a multi

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 4>pro bowler and just a master again downfield in the

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 4>seams and reading coverage and great hands. And then Trey

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 4>McBride and I don't know how you describe him necessarily,

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 4>but we've seen him in the backfield more almost like

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 4>an h back at times. But you have like four

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 4>distinct skill sets a tight end in that room, don't you.

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it is. Paully.

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>You've got a lot of diversity right there, and I

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>love that because you can be so versatile at that

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>position right now. I look at Jeff Swain and you

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<v Speaker 1>know this, Paully the way I value him, he is

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a true stud tight end. He's a guy that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a true Why tight end. You can

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>line him up on the tackles hip, on the line

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage, hand in the dirt, and he can come

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>off the ball and he can be an excellent blocker

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.919
<v Speaker 1>for you. And then you've got a guy like zach Ertz,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the quintessential move tight end to me at

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>this point in his career. For him to be a

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>guy that is going to move, I think it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why the Arizona Cardinals are going to

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.280
<v Speaker 1>be right up there at the very top in twelve

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>personnel in rundown situations. I think they're going to be

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 1>right at the top of the league because of that

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>zach Ertz being able to move. And then I look

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>at Trey McBride and I see a combination of Jeff

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>swam in zach Ertz. I see a guy that could

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>possibly develop into being a troop Why, a stud tight end,

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and a move tight end. So it's going to be

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>really interesting to see how he develops. Of course, and

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>that room is without a doubt, very versatile at this point.

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 4>And at this point we don't know if zach Ertz

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 4>is going to play Week one. Zach Ertz might know,

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 4>he's not sharing with the media said it's uncertain as

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 4>of right now, which is par for the course because

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 4>you're not telling Washington anything. You're not trying to reveal

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 4>who's playing, what sort of scheme you're playing, what the

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 4>offense is going to look like. Do they have plans

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 4>for an Elijah Higgins on game day? Will it be

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 4>zach Ertz. We won't know until that Week one game now.

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 4>As for other waiver claims, it was hard not to

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<v Speaker 4>notice a couple of experienced offensive linemen they brought in

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 4>Keith Ishmael and Tristan Cole Cologne, and these are guys

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.720
<v Speaker 4>who have started games in the NFL recently, especially at center,

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 4>because behind Yelda Rojol, things were all thin on the

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 4>depth chart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, Polly, It tells me once again,

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just looking at the moves that they made on that

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, and I would say in particular interior offensive line, Paulie,

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, that tells you where they aren't sure as

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>to what they're going to be like and how they're

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>going to do and where they're going to go. But

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was interesting on the original fifty three.

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>They only kept eight offensive linemen on the original fifty three,

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and that was really low to me because there are

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.879
<v Speaker 1>teams who will dress eight offensive linemen on game day,

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>let alone how many they'll have on their roster right there.

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>So it's going to be interesting to see how this develops.

0:42:55.840 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>But I think JG already said it. This roster is

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>in a state of flux, and Paul, I think this

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.720
<v Speaker 1>roster is going to be in a state of flux

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.240
<v Speaker 1>all season long.

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 4>So right now they're at ten in the offensive line room.

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Cologne has played twenty games with Baltimore.

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 6>Over the last three years.

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 4>Five starts at center, Keith Ishmael five starts at center,

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 4>most recently with the Niners, played eighteen games over the.

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 6>Last two years.

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 4>And so then you put Dennis Dally on ir so

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 4>you're at ten because you added Carter O'Donnell today from Indianapolis.

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.839
<v Speaker 4>He was cut and claimed and the Cardinals got him,

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 4>and so, okay, he'd been up and down between the

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 4>practice squad and the active roster. So we mentioned all that.

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 4>That leaves Kevon Watts we are talking about and then

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 4>the corner Starling Thomas from Detroit. What do you think

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 4>about the corner position. That's a position group we haven't

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 4>talked about. And where are you right now? Because Christian

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Matthew made this team we were wondering about that. It

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 4>appears Marco Wilson and Key trawl Clark are your starters.

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with your assessment on that one, Polly

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>right there, and I think we're probably going to see

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Hamilton be that nickel corner right now. I could

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>be wrong on that. Well, we'll find out, But that

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>is if if we're talking about a roster that is

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.919
<v Speaker 1>in a state of flux, I think that dB room,

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 1>that corner room in particular, is maybe the position room

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that is in the most state of flux right now

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>because it is a very fluid situation, and Paul, I

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be that way all season.

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Maybe the biggest surprise, I'll be honest, in the fifty

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 4>three was Chris Boyd is still on this roster and

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 4>he's been a heck of a special team standout, and

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm guessing that has a lot to do with his

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 4>standing on this team.

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 6>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll be talking about the opener just a few days away.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of special days, how about a happy birthday to

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<v Speaker 4>two guys to share August thirty first, Darren Urban and

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<v Speaker 4>what's his name?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Japanese fighting.

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<v Speaker 6>Fish in time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's anyone else's birthday At this point, I think we're

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<v Speaker 4>in favor of that special Thanks to jim O, Mahundro,

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