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Speaker 1: generation warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation and former

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Speaker 2: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic christ

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Speaker 2: is King.

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Speaker 3: The Trump administration is putting on hold billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: based on unconstitutional dei principles.

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Speaker 4: In Chicago, Operation Midway Blips is in full swing. Hundreds

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Speaker 4: Vicious trendy Aragua gang.

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Speaker 5: This stunt has nothing to do with public safety. This

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Speaker 5: is about politics, money and power. They're not targeting violent

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Speaker 6: We will liberate this city from the criminal element that

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Speaker 7: This is a knowledge a strategy ship.

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Speaker 1: This is an Amatu ship.

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Speaker 8: We are not gonna live in an environment every rule anywhere,

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Speaker 8: whether it's a street that belongs to the criminal, whether

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Speaker 9: Whether it's any physical space.

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Speaker 1: Anywhere that have belonged to anyone other than the law and.

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Speaker 8: The idea that anywhere is the law in this city

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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and y'all welcome a board today's edition of

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily, Today's ourt Over second twenty twenty five Anno, Dominie.

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Speaker 1: We are here live in the Charlie Kirk Studio, Phoenix, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and we're here with Andrew Covett and Blake Nef. What's up, guys, Hey,

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Speaker 1: So thanks for having us.

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Speaker 5: It's my second time on your show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you were, you were okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I said, you know what though, you know what, though,

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Speaker 1: incredible news something that we've been banging on on thought

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Speaker 1: crime and human Events and the Charlie Kirk Show with

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Speaker 1: the ADL, and Charlie had this great tweet up not

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Speaker 10: Yep, this is this is the tweet and you got

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Speaker 6: You want to be a big hate group, just call

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Speaker 6: yourself an anti hate group, the anti Do you want

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Speaker 6: to defame people, call yourself the Anti Defamation League.

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Speaker 10: So here I'm getting the tweet for the team.

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Speaker 1: So the a d L, the FBI has severed their

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Speaker 1: And today online people have just started blasting the s

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Speaker 6: Identity and Christian identity one specifically was it was an

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Speaker 10: But by the way, it doesn't even change the reality

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Speaker 10: This is from September one, twenty twenty three. Charlie says,

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Speaker 1: But on September ninth, the SPLC at least their Hate

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Speaker 1: with the ADL. SPLC is next, as Charlie said, their

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Speaker 10: In they're headquartered in Alabama, and there they call it

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Speaker 10: So they're they're fleecing old people.

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Speaker 6: For decades, the Southern Poverty Law Center has collected revenues

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Speaker 1: Do it, coach, We have your back, right and that's

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's built on blood money.

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Speaker 10: Because these blood these are these are the organizations that

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Speaker 10: people didn't like that. Well, Governor Cox had privately communicated

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Speaker 10: This was a red state, a very very red state

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Speaker 1: It's that a biblical reference, Andrew Corvette.

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Speaker 10: A luke warm, if you're warm, but I mean it

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Speaker 1: No, and and and and this isn't the first time.

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Speaker 1: It creates the ecosystem, a toxic, disgusting, sick ecosystem that

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Speaker 1: Jack Psobac Human events.

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Speaker 7: Daily and talking about influences. These are influences and they're

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Speaker 1: Zobec. We're back live here, Charlie Kirk Studio, Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I'm on with Blake Nef, producer for The Charlie Kirk Show,

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Speaker 1: and we're exposing the SPLC. We are holding the s

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Speaker 1: So let's see who's first on their list. Ben Carson,

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Speaker 6: I mean you just Charlie's memorial ranting is just endless hatred.

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Speaker 6: Oh and you know there's other stuff you could point to.

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Speaker 1: This all comes from the left.

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Speaker 6: It all came from the left. But to finish it,

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Speaker 6: what's great is the SPLC president Richard Cohen. He announces

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Speaker 1: a highly profitable scam. And this also, by the way,

437
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Speaker 1: when they went after magic NOAs my friend Magice Noa

438
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Speaker 1: was in the UK, they found that the UK actually

439
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Speaker 1: has something called real libel laws, and he sued and

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Speaker 1: won a three point three million dollar settlement with them

441
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Speaker 1: who they went after. They also had to walk back

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Speaker 1: their statements on Ion Hersili, and they did actually publicly

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Speaker 1: apologize to doctor Ben Carson, but they included.

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Speaker 8: Again, they included Ben Carson in an extremist file. These

445
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Speaker 8: people are completely out of control, and they're sitting in

446
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Speaker 8: one of the red estates, running a fraudulent scam, raking

447
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Speaker 8: in a billion dollars and part directly partnered with Google,

448
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Speaker 8: directly partnered with YouTube, and in many cases partner even

449
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Speaker 8: with the FBI and members.

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Speaker 6: And they're they're so often used as this bogus source

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Speaker 6: by the media, I'm looking at the same article or in.

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Speaker 1: A Senate confirmation would pop.

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Speaker 6: Up all of the time, so like the New York

454
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Speaker 6: Times would cite them all the time, where they would say, uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm looking right now at a New York

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Speaker 6: Times article that was about the website vidare, and it

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Speaker 6: just throws in here, Sure, the Southern Poverty Law Center

458
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Speaker 6: classifies vidare as an anti immigration hate website. Okay, so

459
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Speaker 6: you're basically left wing crazy group classifies this other group

460
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Speaker 6: as evil hate group, and they just casually will do

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Speaker 6: that all of the time. There was a Reuter's article

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Speaker 6: from twenty nineteen. It just throws in there that the

463
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Speaker 6: number of hate crime groups rose thirty percent from twenty

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Speaker 6: fourteen to twenty eighteen, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

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Speaker 1: On the rise, they were on the road to entrench.

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Speaker 6: Themselves as this supposedly neutral arbiter of what a hate

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Speaker 6: group is. When they're not, they are a left wing

468
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Speaker 6: hate by the way, I found.

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Speaker 1: So I was digging on there and I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: well let's do whenmber we did the ADL, we were saying,

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Speaker 1: let's see what they say about Antifa, And there's one

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Speaker 1: exactly one article on the spoc's website where they mentioned

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Speaker 1: Antifa and it says designate to Antifa as a domestic

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Speaker 1: terrorist organization is dangerous and threatens civil liberties. If I

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Speaker 1: remember correctly, right after October seventh, the SPLC, not the

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Speaker 1: SPLC main organization, but the Union of SPLC workers actually

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Speaker 1: took a vote and condemned Israel after the October seventh

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Speaker 1: attacks when they were going in and slaughtering families and

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Speaker 1: little children in the settlements right outside of Gaza, and

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Speaker 1: has never gone after these organizations. So they'll talk about

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, and again Hamas, these these actual

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Speaker 1: terrorist organizations, and the SPLC will say we'll just be

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Speaker 1: either silent on them, or the union you'll say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had it coming, they had it coming. It's insane.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's disgusting what they've been able to get

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Speaker 6: away with for so long, and you just have to

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Speaker 6: you just have to entrench them as categorically not a

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Speaker 6: credible group, not a group anyone is going to listen to.

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Speaker 6: And then we should move on to this is a

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Speaker 6: group that is a shady at best, a shady grift

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Speaker 6: at worst, something actually more sinister and criminal, and we

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Speaker 6: should find.

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Speaker 1: Out Charlie or Andrew found he said, there's a Charlie

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Speaker 1: tweet for everything, and you know right there. February twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. The SPLC is a hate group and unfortunately

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Speaker 1: there's far too many people who are still citing them.

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Speaker 1: There's people on our side who will cite them or

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Speaker 1: listen to them. Guys, it's done. We're coming for you.

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Speaker 1: We're coming for all of it. The mail fraud, the

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Speaker 1: wire fraud, the money and the caymans, the lies, the scams.

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00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: It's done. And any connection with law enforcement has to

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Speaker 1: be cut off. And let's go to Amazon. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Jeff Betsos. I know my Kate's mentioned this once

504
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Speaker 1: to him when he had a mint. Why do you

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Speaker 1: allow a group like this into Amazon? Smile? We are

506
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Speaker 1: putting you on notices like no, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: being here.

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Speaker 5: Brother. Where's Jack? Where's Jack?

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Speaker 3: Where is he? Jack?

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Speaker 5: I want to see you.

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Speaker 3: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 5: We're always talking about the fake news.

514
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: And the band, but we have guys, and these are.

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Speaker 4: The guys who're forgetting.

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Speaker 1: PUBLISHESKI all right, Jack, So Bick. We are back Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily. We're here in Phoenix, Arizona, and we were

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Speaker 1: in the Charlie Kirk studio and you know, we've it's

519
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Speaker 1: been it's been now three weeks since Charlie's murder, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we were talking in the previous segment about

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Speaker 1: how the SPLC as well as the ADL had targeted

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Speaker 1: Charlie in the days up to, you know, leading up

523
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Speaker 1: to his death, put a turning point on the SBLC

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Speaker 1: hate watch map, as well as targeting Charlie even the

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Speaker 1: day before the shots rang out. And who I've only

526
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Speaker 1: just gotten to know recently, but also knew Charlie for

527
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Speaker 1: a long time and spoke at the memorial with me,

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Speaker 1: I think right after me actually, and was there with

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Speaker 1: Charlie that day, joined us. Now it's Frank Turk. Frank,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Jack?

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Speaker 5: Like you?

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Speaker 9: Grief comes in waves. Some days I'm okay, other days

533
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Speaker 9: I don't even want to go on almost, you know,

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Speaker 9: I mean.

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Speaker 5: It's God.

536
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 9: God can bring good from evil and is. But still

537
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Speaker 9: that doesn't negate the fact that that was such an

538
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Speaker 9: evil act in a terrible day and it's just been difficult,

539
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 9: but it couldn't be more difficult than what's happening with Eric.

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Speaker 5: And I just keep her in my prayers every day.

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Speaker 5: I know you are too.

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Speaker 1: No, I certainly am, and you know, every chance I

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Speaker 1: get to see her or you know, other other family

544
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Speaker 1: members that just try to I don't know, say used humor,

545
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Speaker 1: try to try to find some way to get him

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Speaker 1: a smile or something like that, just to lighten the

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Speaker 1: load a little bit, Just give one moment of you know,

548
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Speaker 1: playing peekaboo or whatever it is, not with Erica, but

549
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Speaker 1: and and you know it's you did an incredible podcast,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to tell people how to get

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Speaker 1: the podcast where you tell the entire story of how

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Speaker 1: you were there that day, because there's people have had

553
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Speaker 1: so many questions about it, and I understand that I,

554
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Speaker 1: you know, I want to know what happened Charlie too.

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Speaker 1: You tell the entire story, from soup to nuts, as

556
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Speaker 1: we would have said in the Navy, like a fellowshipmate,

557
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Speaker 1: that not only did you see what happened, you helped

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Speaker 1: put Charlie's body in the back of that suv which

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Speaker 1: was essentially commandeered, and rode with him to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: And you shared just incredible details of having been there,

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Speaker 1: tell people and make sure they know where they can

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Speaker 1: get that podcast.

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Speaker 5: Sure, our website is cross.

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Speaker 9: Examined dot org with a D on the end of it.

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Speaker 9: But if they go to the YouTube channel cross Examined

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Speaker 9: two words, they'll see it there. I think the title

567
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Speaker 9: of it is called The Greatness of Charlie Kirk, an

568
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Speaker 9: eyewitness account of his life and martyrdom. And yeah, I

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Speaker 9: was there with Charlie because about five years ago Jackie

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Speaker 9: contacted me because he had seen that I was going

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Speaker 9: to college campuses. I wrote co wrote a book called

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Speaker 9: I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist. So

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Speaker 9: I go to campuses and been doing it for almost

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Speaker 9: twenty years now, presenting the evidence for Christianity and answering

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Speaker 9: a lot of questions. And I guess Charlie just likes

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Speaker 9: some of my answers. And so he reached out five

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Speaker 9: years ago, five and a half years ago, and said, Hey,

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Speaker 9: your ministry has been very pivotal and I want to

579
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Speaker 9: learn from you, and you know, can you kind of

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Speaker 9: mentor me in this? And so he and I would

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Speaker 9: get together this past summer. We got together on four

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Speaker 9: occasions in Phoenix for a couple of days each time,

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Speaker 9: just so we could you know, iron sharpin's iron.

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Speaker 1: I mean it.

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Speaker 9: Would you would you would think it would be difficult

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Speaker 9: to to mentor somebody smarter than you.

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Speaker 5: Charlie is smarter than me.

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Speaker 9: But it's not because the only thing that surpassed Charlie's

589
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Speaker 9: intellect was his humility. And I'm sure he did this

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Speaker 9: with you too, Jack. Hey, well how would you answer

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Speaker 9: this better? Hey?

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Speaker 5: What do you think about this?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: He was already looking to improve himself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if anything, I would I would say, you know,

596
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 1: when Charlie and I would do our you know, our

597
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Speaker 1: thought crime show, which would which today's Thursday, and we

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Speaker 1: would have been, you know, hosting it today. We'll still

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Speaker 1: do a show today. We have something special planned. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you know I was, if I could say anything, I

601
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Speaker 1: was sort of Charlie's sparring partner, you know, and right

602
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Speaker 1: we would you know, get up some issue like flag

603
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Speaker 1: burning or you know, whatever the hot button issue was

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Speaker 1: going on, and you know, I would try to take

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Speaker 1: the most opposed side I could, and we would just

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Speaker 1: it would just go at it, right, you know, we

607
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: would just be you know, ripping into each other and

608
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Speaker 1: what about this? And what about this? And the Supreme

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Speaker 1: and just back and forth, and it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: if he can do that working, you know, you do

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Speaker 1: your sparring, you do your training, so that he's totally

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Speaker 1: ready to go there on the college campus and then boom, wait.

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Speaker 1: I remember I heard that because you know that came

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Speaker 1: up before, like train like you fight, like we used

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Speaker 1: to stay in the Navy. And I mean it was

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Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. And little did we know, you know, all

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Speaker 1: that prep work that he did for this tour and

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Speaker 1: he only made it about two questions in.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 9: He was ready to go and excited to go. And

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Speaker 9: so I just tell the story. I was twenty five

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Speaker 9: feet off his right elbow, and for some reason, people thought,

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Speaker 9: oh I was signaling the shooter. I was the guy

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Speaker 9: in the white hat. You know, this stupid stuff that

625
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Speaker 9: people put out on the internet, like like any shooter

626
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Speaker 9: would need somebody to say, hey, that's Charlie Kirk over there.

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Speaker 9: You know, if the shooter's looking through a scope, he

628
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Speaker 9: can't see a guy twenty five feet to his left.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, what's you know, what's anyway?

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Speaker 1: Right, Stu. People didn't realize that you were there because

631
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Speaker 1: you were someone who'd been helping Charlie with the door.

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Speaker 1: You were helping him put it together, the content, the debates,

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Speaker 1: That's what your role was being there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and look, I was just tuning Charlie. He didn't

635
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Speaker 9: need me as much as he thought he did. Charlie's brilliant, right, But.

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Speaker 1: I was there.

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Speaker 9: We'd spent the two previous days together, some parts of

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Speaker 9: the two previous days, and he said, I, why's just

639
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Speaker 9: come with me the first event. I said sure. So

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Speaker 9: we're driving in. We got some drone footage and I

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Speaker 9: said to him, I said, Charlie, I don't like this place.

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Speaker 9: There's too many buildings. And he just kind of shrugged

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Speaker 9: it off because he's brave and he's not going to

644
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Speaker 9: cancel anything. There's six thousand people waiting for him. Right,

645
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Speaker 9: But I tell the whole story. Everyone probably don't have

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Speaker 9: time to do it here. But I thought about this

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Speaker 9: for a long time, Jack. I always thought somebody was

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Speaker 9: going to take a shot at Charlie at some point.

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Speaker 9: And you and I both be in navy guys.

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Speaker 5: You know that you.

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Speaker 9: Always have emergency procedures in the Navy, And so I

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Speaker 9: thought to myself, if Charlie's ever shot, what would I do,

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Speaker 9: so I thought about it in advance, and since he

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Speaker 9: was like a son to me, I was going to

655
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Speaker 9: do everything I could to try and save him if

656
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Speaker 9: I could, so I kind of forced my way into

657
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Speaker 9: the back of the suv. The security team was on

658
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 9: him immediately, and I just ran with him and they

659
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 9: put him across the back seat the same suv we

660
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 9: took in there, and I popped the back gate open

661
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Speaker 9: and got over the back seat. So I'm just looking

662
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 9: straight down at him, you know, foot away, and I

663
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 9: won't go into detail because I don't want to give

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Speaker 9: Eric any more pain. But we did everything we could

665
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 9: to save him. But he wasn't looking at me. He

666
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 9: was looking right past me into eternity. He was already

667
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 9: with Jesus Jack. And the thing Erica wants everybody to know,

668
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 9: and we verified this later when we got to the hospital,

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Speaker 9: was that Charlie died instantly.

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Speaker 5: He didn't.

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Speaker 9: He probably didn't even know he had been hit, at

672
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Speaker 9: least in his you know, his physical self, as soon

673
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 9: as you know, absent from the body present with the

674
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Speaker 9: Lord's the second Corinthians five, and Paul says something similar

675
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 9: in Philippians. As soon as you are if you're a believer.

676
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 9: As soon as you expire, you're with the Lord. And

677
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 9: that's where Charlie was. And so I go in a

678
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 9: lot more detail in that podcast again, it's called The

679
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 9: Greatness of Charlie Kirk, an eyewitness account of his life

680
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 9: and martyred him. It's on our YouTube channel. Cross examined

681
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Speaker 9: two words.

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Speaker 1: What was I mean? And and that that podcast? I

683
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: mean when you did it, I mean you you put

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Speaker 1: the listener right in the back of that suv with

685
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: you and you talk about The one thing that I

686
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: did that is always going to stick with me is

687
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: that when you got to the hospital and you and

688
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: and and I think you were there with Mikey and

689
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: Danny and they told you to change your clothes and

690
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: they gave you scrubs.

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, we we had to change our clothes for obvious reasons.

692
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 9: So you know, we had justin drive and Dan's in

693
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Speaker 9: the front with the GPS on his phone. Brian's to

694
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Speaker 9: my right at Charlie's feet, and Charlie was six foot four,

695
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Speaker 9: as you know, sorry is six foot four. He's still

696
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 9: six foot four, and we couldn't close the door because

697
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 9: he was so tall. So we drove four miles yanking

698
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Speaker 9: and banking to the hospital with the door open. To

699
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Speaker 9: this day, I don't know how Brian stayed in the car,

700
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Speaker 9: but you know he's administer in first aid. Rick has

701
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Speaker 9: basically Charlie's head on my left, the administer in first aid,

702
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Speaker 9: and I'm over the back seat looking down at Charlie

703
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 9: trying to do CPR, and.

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Speaker 5: I mean it seemed like it took forever to get there.

705
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Speaker 9: I mean we're on our way there and the ambulance

706
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 9: is coming opposite us, and there was chattering the car.

707
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 9: Should we stop? No, no, just keep going? And later

708
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Speaker 9: the doctor said that was the right thing to do.

709
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Speaker 2: Yeah, even though he was I mean that, Yeah, I mean,

710
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: you guys did what you did the response being there

711
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: and we're coming up on a quick break.

712
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Speaker 1: But I'll hold you over because I do want to

713
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Speaker 1: talk about the you know, what has become of this.

714
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Speaker 1: But I just want to commend you for being there

715
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Speaker 1: for Charlie and doing what you did and trying Jack.

716
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 9: If you were standing there, you'd have done exactly the

717
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 9: same thing.

718
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Training. Look, your training just kicks in.

719
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you couldn't say and you go for it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you do exactly, And anybody that loved Charlie would

721
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 9: do exactly the same thing, right, and it's nothing heroic

722
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 9: going to the hospital with him.

723
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Speaker 5: Come on, we'd all do that.

724
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Speaker 9: He did.

725
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Speaker 1: What he did was heroic and that's right to record

726
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: that and tell the story publicly. It must have been

727
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: incredibly hard, and so I wanted to say thank you

728
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Speaker 1: Frank for doing that. We'll be right back here Human

729
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: Events Daily, Jack Psobic Frank Turk talking about our dear

730
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Speaker 1: friend Charlie Kirk, will be right back room Mark's voice.

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Speaker 5: Jack is a great guy.

732
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Speaker 6: He's written at.

733
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Speaker 8: Fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.

734
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Speaker 5: Go get it. And he's been my friend right from.

735
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Speaker 7: The beginning of this whole beautiful.

736
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Speaker 3: Event, and we're going to turn her around and make

737
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Speaker 3: our gusting way to get him.

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Speaker 1: Jack. So we are back live here Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: We're on with Frank Turk, who was not just an

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Speaker 1: eyewitness to the murder of our dear friend Charlie Kirk.

741
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Speaker 1: He is someone who rode in the back of the

742
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: suv did his best to try to render aid to

743
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Speaker 1: Charlie after he had been shot. Put out an incredible

744
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: podcast detailing this and telling the story in full no breaks. Highly,

745
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: highly encourage everyone to go and listen to that podcast.

746
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: And Frank, so, you know a little over a week

747
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: after that event, you and I run into each other

748
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: again and we had done it, you know, the show

749
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: talking about talking about Brave Books. You know, yeah, kid

750
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: books a week prior or so, and you know it's

751
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: which which I still love, by the way, And everyone

752
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: should go check out Brave especially they have they have

753
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: their they have a streaming app now, so you're going

754
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: to cancel Netflix, you got to go get the you know,

755
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: Brave Plus they're calling it and you know the Kirk

756
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: count Oh my kids love it. Yeah, and the memorial

757
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: and we end up at the memorial backstage together. Tell

758
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: me about what you thought about the memorial, not just

759
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: being up there, but but what it has meant for

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Speaker 1: America in the world in in the wake of this

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00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: heinous violence.

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Speaker 9: Well, Jack, as you saw when you have everybody from

763
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 9: the President on down talking about the Gospel of Jesus

764
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 9: Christ talking about how Charlie was is in heaven now

765
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 9: not because anything he did, not even because he died

766
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 9: for his savior, but because as his savior died for him.

767
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 9: When that goes out to one hundred million plus people

768
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 9: and it is still going out, people are still watching it.

769
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 9: That's an amazing testimony and an amazing ripple. It's not

770
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Speaker 9: just a ripple, it's a tsunami of good that has

771
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Speaker 9: come out of this awful event. I don't know this

772
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 9: for sure, Jack, but because I don't know the future,

773
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 9: but it could turn out, not that this justifies anything.

774
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 9: It could turn out that Charlie's influence will now be

775
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 9: bigger than it ever was, even if he had lived,

776
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 9: because it was such First of all, he was such

777
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 9: an amazing man, and this was all caught on video.

778
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 9: And people's hearts are broken. Your heart's broken, My heart's broken.

779
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 9: But our hearts are now open to the truth. And look,

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Speaker 9: I'm getting emails. I know you are too. I got

781
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 9: an email from it. Someone in Sweden the other day

782
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Speaker 9: who's been an atheist twenty six years. Now she's a Christian, Denmark, Thing, London, Australia, everywhere. Yes,

783
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 9: people are coming to faith because of Charlie Kirk's life.

784
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 9: And look, Jack, as you well know, everything we're doing here,

785
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Speaker 9: while we all love America, America is temporary.

786
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Speaker 5: It's not eternal.

787
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Speaker 9: Heaven is eternal, right, and by the way, that's one

788
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 9: of the biggest differences between the Christian worldview and the

789
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 9: Marxist worldview. In the Christian worldview. In the Christian worldview,

790
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 9: we believe the individual is eternal and the state is temporary.

791
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Speaker 9: In the Marxist worldview, they think the state is eternal

792
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 9: and the individual is temporary. That's why you can sacrifice

793
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 9: the individual for the state.

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00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so perfected, and and and it's and and

795
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: it's it is inherently anti Christian because it denies the

796
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: rights of the individual, denies the individuality of the human being. Uh,

797
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: this is why when communism comes to power, When communism

798
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: tries to us and to power, what do they do.

799
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Speaker 1: The very first group of people that they go after

800
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: is always the Christians. They turn through priests, they go

801
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: after pastors, they go after people speaking on behalf of

802
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: Christ in public squares. They go after religious women. And

803
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: this is a pattern that has existed for hundreds of years,

804
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: hundreds of years that you can see over and over

805
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: and over, from the French Revolution and Robespierre and the Guillotine,

806
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: all the way right through the Bolshevik Revolution, the Spanish

807
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: Civil War. This is what they do every single time

808
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: is they target the Christians. And so it doesn't surprise

809
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: me that I would say, of all the emotions that

810
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Speaker 1: I've had since Charlie's death, surprise has not been one

811
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: of them, not at all, because this is what they

812
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: always do.

813
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 9: Jack, did I tell you the text exchange that Charlie

814
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Speaker 9: had with our mutual friend James Lindsay, Did I tell

815
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Speaker 9: you this?

816
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

817
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 9: Back in twenty twenty three, James is agnostic. He texts

818
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 9: charge goes, Hey, I'm starting to believe in Satan because

819
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 9: I thought about the one hundred million people the Communists

820
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 9: killed in the last century. That's that's good evidence for Satan.

821
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 9: And so Charlie texts back and he goes, well, if Satan,

822
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 9: then God, and.

823
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: If Satan then God.

824
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And then James goes that would follow, yeah, ladies

825
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 9: and gentlemen.

826
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Speaker 5: Evil does not disprove God. Evil.

827
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Speaker 9: Evil actually shows God does exist, because there'd be no

828
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 9: such thing as evil unless there was good, and there

829
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Speaker 9: be no such thing as good unless God existed.

830
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Speaker 5: And so if you're going to say that.

831
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Speaker 9: There's evil out there, you're presupposing a standard of good,

832
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 9: which is God. So Satan and evil can't be the

833
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 9: metaphysical grounding of reality because evil is a lack and

834
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 9: a good thing. It's not a thing in itself. Evil

835
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 9: is like cancer. You know, if take all the cancer

836
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 9: out of a good body, you got a better body.

837
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 9: If you take all the body out of the cancer,

838
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 9: you got nothing. So the essence of reality is goodness,

839
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 9: and goodness is God's nature. So Charlie was wise enough

840
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 9: to turn the tables on James and say, hey, man,

841
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 9: if you're believing in evil, you better believe in good.

842
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 5: And good is what we mean by God's nature.

843
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 9: So many people are starting to come to Christ because

844
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 9: of evil, and Christianity.

845
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 5: Is the answer to the problem of evil.

846
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 9: If we had never sinned, to me, no reason for

847
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 9: Jesus to leave heaven ad humanity to see it the

848
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Speaker 9: and come to earth and pay for our sins.

849
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Speaker 1: Right. So that's right.

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00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 5: Christianity is the answer is the problem of direction.

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00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: That's right, and and and right. If you if you

852
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: believe in Satan, then you're Christian. You just haven't realized

853
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: it yet. I saw on something on Twitter yesterday where

854
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: and I can't remember the name of the account, but

855
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: it was so good and it said scientifically speaking, Uh,

856
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: there is no there's no scientific basis for cold. Cold

857
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: is just the absence of heat. Darkness does not exist.

858
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: Darkness is just the absence of light. And it then

859
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: also follows that evil is of course the absence of good.

860
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: And we were told in the Bible that that hell

861
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: is that complete separation from God that you and by

862
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: the way that you have removed yourself from God's love

863
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: from and you have rejected God's grace, you have rejected

864
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: God's message, and then through that you have separated yourself completely.

865
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 5: Exactly.

866
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Speaker 9: God's not going to force anybody into Heaven against their will.

867
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 9: You know, if you don't want Jesus now, you're not

868
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 9: going to want him an eternity. And so God, rightfully,

869
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 9: as you just said, separates himself from the sinner who

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Speaker 9: wants to be left alone. You want to be left alone.

871
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Speaker 9: You're going to be alone. It's not going to be

872
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Speaker 9: a pleasant place, but you're going to be alone because

873
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 9: you don't want the grace that God provided for you

874
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Speaker 9: by taking your sins upon himself on the cross.

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Speaker 1: And in Dante's Inferno, I've always I've always found it

876
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: interesting that when you go to the lowest the lowest

877
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno is very interesting because

878
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Speaker 1: it's not hot. It's cold, right, so we hear about

879
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: the flames and et cetera, but it's actually in Dante's Inferno,

880
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: it's cold, it's frozen. And and the lowest rung of

881
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Speaker 1: hell is for traders uh so uh Brutus a trader

882
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Speaker 1: to his king, uh Judas a trader to a trader

883
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Speaker 1: to his lord. And then of course the very center

884
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Speaker 1: of that pit is of course Satan himself, Lucifer, a

885
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Speaker 1: trader to God. And it's and it's frozen, it's ice.

886
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Speaker 1: And that's not usually the way we think of hell,

887
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Speaker 1: and it's certainly not the traditional classic medieval depiction of hell.

888
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: And and and course flames are are used in the

889
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Speaker 1: Bible as well, But it was very interesting to describe

890
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Speaker 1: it that way, because that's what it is, the separation

891
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Speaker 1: from love. And we all know what that feels like

892
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Speaker 1: when you, when you, when you, when we lost Charlie.

893
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: Right when we lost Charlie, we feel that we feel

894
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: that loss, that something is gone that should be there

895
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Speaker 1: and that I'm looking to share right now it's right

896
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: next to me, and that that is that you know.

897
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, I'm not gonna say I was in

898
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Speaker 1: love with the guy, but.

899
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Speaker 9: The the you know, the brother, yeah, you love.

900
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

901
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Speaker 7: I was.

902
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Speaker 1: Well, the Greeks have various words for the word love,

903
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Speaker 1: so maybe I'll pick one of those. I don't know, agape,

904
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Speaker 1: but it was one of them. Thanks you so much

905
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Speaker 1: for joining us and and just being here and and

906
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Speaker 1: and sharing the story. It's it's an unbelievable tale. I

907
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: thank you for doing it because the world needed to

908
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: hear it. Tell people again where they can go to

909
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: get this incredible podcast.

910
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 9: Go to our YouTube channel. That's the easiest place. Two

911
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Speaker 9: words cross examined, examined with a D and you'll see it.

912
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Speaker 9: It's uh, just a couple of weeks ago, right after

913
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Speaker 9: the event. It's called The Greatness of Charlie Kirk, an

914
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Speaker 9: eyewitness account of his life and martyrdom. And then there's

915
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Speaker 9: a subsequent one one about the memorial service we just

916
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Speaker 9: did too.

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Speaker 1: Check them all out. Frank Turk, you're a good man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing what you did. Your navy veteran shipmate,

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Speaker 1: who Yah, Ladies and gentlemen. As always, you have my

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Speaker 1: permission to play Sure