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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: It's the middle of January, and if I made resolutions,

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Speaker 1: I would maybe feel like they've all fallen apart already.

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Speaker 1: But the thing about resolutions is that there's really no

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Speaker 1: particular time when you really need to start them. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast about better living. And when I ask

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Speaker 1: guests about a life tip they can offer, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's a good one, I try to implement it

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Speaker 1: right away. I mean, a guest said that Megan down.

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Speaker 1: She said that she recommends getting your car detailed. I

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Speaker 1: got it detailed a few days later, and she was right.

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Speaker 1: I felt amazing about it. My car looked brand new.

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of people, I struggle with screen news.

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Speaker 1: My work is on my laptop. I'm just I'm on

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Speaker 1: all day. I'm reading news, looking at x et cetera.

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Speaker 1: And I say that, but I also scroll on Instagram

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Speaker 1: for an hour or two every night before bed. I

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Speaker 1: really don't use social media during the day, but at

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Speaker 1: night I enjoy these mindless reels they're called, and I

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Speaker 1: think I have to cut that out. I'm not sleeping

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Speaker 1: great and there's no particular reason for it. I just

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Speaker 1: think I'm getting my mind working right before bed, and

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Speaker 1: I like, there's a word for it in Russian, like

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Speaker 1: it was ghulaw, Like my just getting worked up before

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Speaker 1: bed for no reason, and then my mind won't shut off.

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Speaker 1: And I'm fine in every way except just can't quite disconnect.

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Speaker 1: So I think I have to cut that out. My

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Speaker 1: husband used to refer to my pre bed routine at

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Speaker 1: the start of our marriage as and then Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: then Instagram and then Facebook and then Twitter one more time.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that wasn't great checking all the apps before bed,

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Speaker 1: but at least it was interactive. I was talking to people,

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Speaker 1: I was checking my mentions. Now I'm just scrolling. In June,

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Speaker 1: I wrote about the fact that kids aren't on social

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Speaker 2: Not really.

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Speaker 1: They're on TikTok or TikTok like apps like reels on

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Speaker 1: Instagram or shorts on YouTube. I wrote, but while we've

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Speaker 1: been focused on how kids connect with each other online,

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Speaker 1: the kids have changed the way they actually use the Internet.

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Speaker 1: They aren't using social media to socialize at all anymore,

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Speaker 1: but basically carrying a TV around with them at all

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Speaker 1: times of day and night. They're using their phones for

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Speaker 1: entertainment not connection, even when they're physically present with their

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Speaker 1: friends or involved in what should be an entertaining activity.

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Speaker 1: Observe kids or teens using their phones and you'll see

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Speaker 1: them swipe, swipe, swipe, no interaction, no selfies, not even

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Speaker 1: photographing breakfast. And the thing is, this is me now, right.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm worried about. That I'm treating it like

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Speaker 1: a television, but one that I'm moving through so quickly.

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Speaker 1: I'm not watching a show. I'm just watching a few

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Speaker 1: minutes of a show and I'm next next, So I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's great. And yes, I limit my use

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Speaker 1: tonight time, but because I'm on a screen all day

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Speaker 1: for work too, it's a lot of screen and I

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Speaker 1: think I have to cut that out. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: try to go back to reading before bed and see

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Speaker 1: if I see any change in sleep or general mood,

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Speaker 1: and I'll report back. So many people offer the useless

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Speaker 1: screens advice on here, and I feel like it's time

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Speaker 1: that I really take it. Thanks for listening. I love

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Speaker 1: getting your emails, I love all your questions. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do a couple of segments on family questions in

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Speaker 1: I've been getting a lot of recently. If you want

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Speaker 1: something answered, email me at Carolmarkowitz Show at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: I also posted on x and on Facebook on my

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Speaker 1: pages a link to an anonymous page where you could

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Speaker 1: submit your questions and not have any trace of who

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Speaker 1: you are. If you want to do that, please feel

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Speaker 1: free to use that. Coming up next and interview with

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: My guest today is Mark W. Smith.

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Speaker 3: Mark is a constitutional attorney, a best selling author of

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Speaker 3: eight books, and host of the Four Boxes Diners Second

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Speaker 2: Hi Mark, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Carol, Great to see you. I love all your work

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Speaker 4: in the New York Post. It's just a great honor

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Speaker 4: to be able to talk to you and discuss these things.

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Speaker 4: Just feel I'm very honored and lucky to be talking

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Speaker 4: to you today, So thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 3: I am obviously I've a longtime huge fan of yours.

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Speaker 3: I have to tell my audience I met Mark when

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Speaker 3: I was in my early twenties in New York, and

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Speaker 3: I would say I was a lifelong conservative, but my

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Speaker 3: real blind spot growing up in Brooklyn was gun rights.

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Speaker 3: And I went to a debate, and I was a

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Speaker 3: ikey and you know what I was raised with. And

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Speaker 3: Mark and Niger Innes were the two debaters on the

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Speaker 3: Like I was like, I just had my entire perspective changed.

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Speaker 3: I left there being like, Wow, I didn't know debates

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Speaker 3: completely different person. And I've always been such a huge

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Speaker 3: fan of yours, obviously, but I think back to that

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Speaker 3: first debate and what a difference it made in my life.

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Speaker 2: I've been a second.

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Speaker 3: A moment supporter ever since I've I now own guns,

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Speaker 3: I shoot guns, and I just think, you're, you know, fantastic,

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Speaker 3: But do you remember do you recall that debate or

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Speaker 3: you're on the same side as Niger, But yeah.

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Speaker 5: I absolutely recall that debate.

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Speaker 4: And it's wonderful to see how New York young Republicans

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Speaker 4: think what's interesting sociologically, if you think about it, Carol,

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Speaker 4: back then we would have debates all the time, right

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Speaker 4: there would be based on every topic. In fact, you know,

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Speaker 4: debating in favor of Bush against various liberals. What's interesting

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Speaker 4: and you don't see nearly as many debates as you

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Speaker 4: used to. But back then, you know, you would line

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Speaker 4: be polite and professional, but you'd make your arguments. America

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Speaker 4: has changed in terms of I think it's somehow debate

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Speaker 4: but there's a lot of people in America, and I

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Speaker 4: debates are very important for teaching people about both sides

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Speaker 3: Well, so that debate, I felt like you and Niger

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Speaker 3: other side was like, what about the children, What about children?

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Speaker 3: What about if a child gets the gun. It was

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Speaker 2: So it was a clear choice for me. But it's

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Speaker 3: I actually trace the end of television debates to the

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Speaker 3: moment where John Stewart went on Crossfire and told Tucker

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Speaker 3: Carlson and Paul Bagalo, who had argued all the time

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Speaker 2: I fully disagree. I think that was very good for

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Speaker 3: People disagree, even raise their voices, sometimes even get heated,

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Speaker 3: but at the end of it.

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Speaker 2: Be civil and normal to each other. And I think

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Speaker 4: I think that's a great point because remember it used

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Speaker 4: what's going on now. But I will say, you know,

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Speaker 4: to social media, I get a lot of left wing,

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Speaker 4: So there is some interaction there that's going on, and

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Speaker 4: I think it's healthy for America because you know, debate

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Speaker 4: Debate is how we often achieve some level of true

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Speaker 4: through you know, what's known as the Socratic method, which

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Speaker 4: But now there's so many people that feel uncomfortable with debate.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not good because really American democracy and

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Speaker 4: the constitutionalism depends on on debate, whether you're debating in

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: And again, debates don't have to be aggressive. They can

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that that's so important for all of us.

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Speaker 3: So you're a Second Amendment scholar. Your most recent book

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Speaker 3: is called Israel Disarmed. They don't have the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 3: What is the book about and what's your argument there?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I really think that they're right to

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Speaker 4: defend yourself, right, you know, we have to understand that

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Speaker 4: ever since Cain killed Abel, there is evil in the world.

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Speaker 4: And our founding fathers in the United States recognize this.

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Speaker 4: You know, they wanted to divine design a government, a

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Speaker 5: Checks and balances.

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Speaker 4: They recognize that you're always going to have people very

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Speaker 4: self interested, you know, doing things that are were malevolent.

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Speaker 5: And they understood this, and I think.

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Speaker 4: people from doing evil things. We all have to have

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Speaker 4: the right to defend ourselves in the most effective way

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Speaker 4: for most people to defend themselves is with a firearm.

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Speaker 4: And this is recognized if you look at how our

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Speaker 4: political leaders defend themselves, they're surrounded with men with guns.

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Speaker 4: If you look at our religious elites, like the Pope

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Speaker 4: And what is the common denominator, Carol, of all scenarios is,

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Speaker 4: of course armed protectors, people that protect themselves. But you

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Speaker 4: and I know that I'm not strong enough to carry

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Speaker 5: Seven, and there's many instances by myself, right.

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Speaker 4: So I think the thing about the israel Disarmed book

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Speaker 5: You've committed a felony.

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Speaker 4: But again, if you want to learn about guns before

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Speaker 3: You have eight books? How does one write eight books?

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Speaker 4: And you know it's funny because how life has twists

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Speaker 4: Yes, turned into the litigation right next time you knew,

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Speaker 5: I can assure you.

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Speaker 4: Well, I still think the Official Handbag of the Vass

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Speaker 4: But yeah, but I think every book has a you know,

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Speaker 2: What do you worry about?

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Speaker 5: Well, I worry about the fall of the United States.

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Speaker 4: not going to have enough time to get all this

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Speaker 4: done given the institutional roadblocks. Now I hope I'm wrong,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure cheering for him. But if you ask

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Speaker 4: me what am I worried about, That's what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 2: So this isn't one of my typical questions.

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Speaker 3: But what advice would you give to Donald Trump about

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Speaker 3: how to best execute this?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think, of course it varies my topic, But

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Speaker 4: if I could say one thing to Donald Trump, I

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Speaker 4: think he's got to really understand that the system in

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Speaker 4: many instances cannot be reformed, that you really have to

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Speaker 4: dismantle and not reform. And on a related note, what

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Speaker 4: you're doing is not destroying America. You're actually restoring America

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Speaker 4: to where it was. I mean, we did not have

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Speaker 4: these trillion dollar deficits, We did not have a deep

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Speaker 4: state where unelected bureaucrats are literally running the government. I mean,

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Speaker 4: does anybody think right now, Carol, that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 4: running this country, is running the federal government right now.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone thinks that Joe Biden, whatever you

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Speaker 4: think about, the man has been running this government.

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Speaker 5: For some time now. So who is running the federal government.

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Speaker 4: Who is making these critical decisions about who to prosecute,

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Speaker 4: who to indict, who have put into prison, you know,

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Speaker 4: where to send all those billions and billions of dollars,

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Speaker 4: and who makes that? Who's making these decisions to give

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Speaker 4: the money to the Ukraine versus Midwest America, or to

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Speaker 4: North Carolina hurricane victims or whatever. Someone is making these decisions,

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Speaker 4: and it's clearly not Joe Biden. And I think that

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Speaker 4: you know that that means that the system of unelected

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Speaker 4: bureaucrats is far too powerful, Because we, the people, elect

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Speaker 4: the officials who are supposed to make these big decisions.

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Speaker 4: They're not supposed to be delegated to unelected bureaucrats, and

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Speaker 4: that's what's going on. And the bottom line is the

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Speaker 4: federal government has to be dramatically shrunk. A lot of

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Speaker 4: these agencies that should not exist need to go away.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's the key to.

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Speaker 4: Cut the federal workforce, to cut the size of government,

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Speaker 4: and relatedly, to move a lot of these government agencies

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Speaker 4: outside of the district to Columbia, because one of the

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Speaker 4: problems we're having, Carol, in my.

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Speaker 5: Opinion, is that so many people go to the swamp.

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Speaker 5: If you moved some of these.

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Speaker 4: Federal agencies to a red state like in Oklahoma, like

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Speaker 4: a Florida, like a Texas, like a Montana, whatever you

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Speaker 4: want to say, you know you're going to get a

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Speaker 4: much different employee that's willing to live in Montana and

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Speaker 4: go to work for some of these federal agencies. You're

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Speaker 4: going to get more Americans going to work for the

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Speaker 4: federal government as opposed to what you have right now

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Speaker 4: in d C, which are people that want to be

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Speaker 4: in DC. They want to be our grand you know,

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Speaker 4: they want to be our grandmother's lord and ovos telling

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Speaker 4: us not to have more salt, that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: And I think that part of it is to just

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Speaker 4: dismantle not just the deep state, but to dismantle the

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Speaker 4: swamp itself physically and geographically and move a lot of

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Speaker 4: those agencies to red states, get them out of that

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Speaker 4: northern Virginia DC area.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that plan.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think that that's one of the top things

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Speaker 3: that the Trump administration could do to really affect change.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be tough, but you know, I'd love

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Speaker 3: to see some action on something like that. So an

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Speaker 3: easier question, what advice would you give your sixteen year

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Speaker 3: old self?

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Speaker 2: What advice would a sixteen year old Mark need to know?

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Speaker 5: You mean, other than to buy Amazon or to buy

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Speaker 5: Indunia or to buy bitcoin, that is good advice.

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Speaker 4: I think the advice I would give a younger version

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Speaker 4: of Mark would be, uh, to don't worry about being

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Speaker 4: popular at any given moment, that being popular doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 4: mean that the popular opinion is correct. That you want

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Speaker 4: to be iconoclastic within within you know, within reason, right,

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Speaker 4: it's okay to have viewpoints that are a little bit

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Speaker 4: outside the norm and don't feel uncomfortable with that. And

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, that's been largely what I've done

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Speaker 4: throughout my life, you know, people have always asked me,

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Speaker 4: you know, Mark, you became a very successful, you know,

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Speaker 4: uh Wall Street litigator in New York City, living and

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Speaker 4: working in Midtown Manhattan, and yet your political views are

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Speaker 4: diametrically opplosed to basically all of New York City. So

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Speaker 4: how on earth did you become sort of so successful

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Speaker 4: as a practicing attorney all of these years, despite everyone

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Speaker 4: knowing that you're a right wing conservative and do all

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Speaker 4: this stuff. And again, I think that people do look

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Speaker 4: for people, do find people that are different interesting.

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Speaker 5: I think there are ways to make your way in

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Speaker 5: the world.

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Speaker 4: And I think the bottom line is, I would say

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Speaker 4: to my younger self, Carol, that's a long winded way

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Speaker 4: of saying this.

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Speaker 5: There is no world series of life.

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Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is, unlike the NFL

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl, let's say, where you only have one winner

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Speaker 4: at the end of every year, or a one World

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Speaker 4: series winner in sports, there is no World series or

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl winner of life.

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Speaker 5: Meaning there's a lot of ways that we can all

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Speaker 5: win our own lives.

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Speaker 4: You can be a successful journalist at the New York Post.

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Speaker 5: Somebody else can be a best selling author of books.

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Speaker 4: Somebody else can be a very successful teacher in a

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Speaker 4: public school somewhere somewhere else can be an inventor of

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Speaker 4: rockets and all their own ways. They're all winners of life.

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Speaker 4: They're all World series winners. Some people are happy, you know,

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Speaker 4: to have a family and stay at home on whatever

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Speaker 4: it is. The point is just recognize there is no

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Speaker 4: one size fits all definition of success, and we all

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Speaker 4: have to recognize that we can all.

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Speaker 5: Win in our own lives.

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Speaker 4: And never, never, ever compare yourself against other people. I

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Speaker 4: think that is a I think that is a terrible

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Speaker 4: idea to compare yourself against how other people are doing

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Speaker 4: in many instances, because again that's not the measurement. You

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Speaker 4: should really just be saying, how can I improve today

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Speaker 4: and do better today than I did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: So it's funny because my last question now is offer

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Speaker 3: a piece of advice for my listeners on how they

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Speaker 3: can improve their lives. Although that was a lot of

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Speaker 3: good advice, but do you have something else for us?

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Speaker 4: I think that, you know, speaking to kind of my

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Speaker 4: area especially, I would say to the listeners this, sometimes

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Speaker 4: you have to confront uncomfortable realities, and you know, we

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Speaker 4: have to sometimes confront there are dangers in the world.

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Speaker 4: There's the possibility of getting you know, cancer or badly illness,

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Speaker 4: you know bad illnesses. There's the possibility of accidents, and

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Speaker 4: this is a terrible thing to think about. And as

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Speaker 4: a general matter, we don't like to think about these

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Speaker 4: things because it's not good for our mental health. And

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Speaker 4: I would agree with that, but I do want everyone

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Speaker 4: to at least step back and ask themselves the question

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Speaker 4: I asked earlier, which is, in the event that you

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Speaker 4: have to confront evil, whatever that may be. It may

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Speaker 4: be a dangerous person, it could be a terrorist, it

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Speaker 4: could be a wild animal, for example, but you know,

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Speaker 4: make sure you at least have thought about ahead of

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Speaker 4: time if you have to confront evil in some way,

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Speaker 4: what exactly is your plan to stay safe.

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Speaker 5: To protect your life, to protect the lives of.

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Speaker 4: Your loved ones, your family, your community, What exactly is

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Speaker 4: your plan have these conversations with your family members. And again,

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Speaker 4: you don't have to scare people and get all paranoid.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to do any of that stuff and

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Speaker 4: become big time preppers or anything, but make sure you

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Speaker 4: at least talk about the possibility. I mean, people talk

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Speaker 4: about the possibility of what happens if I get sick,

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Speaker 4: Well we better have life insurance so the kids are protected.

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Speaker 4: What if I get sick, I need to have you know,

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Speaker 4: health insurance. You know what happens if I lose my job,

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Speaker 4: Well we better save money. Well what happens if there's

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Speaker 4: a fire, Well we better have a fire extinguisher.

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Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: People take all these precautions for all sorts of contingencies

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Speaker 4: in life that you hope never occur. And I would

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Speaker 4: just encourage people to keep in mind that, you know,

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Speaker 4: what exactly is the tendency plan for you and your

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Speaker 4: family in the event somebody bad wants to do something

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Speaker 4: bad to you and your family, make sure you have

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Speaker 4: a plan. Make sure you've thought about it ahead of time,

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Speaker 4: because when it occurs, if you haven't thought about it,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be too late to cut, you know,

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Speaker 4: devise a plan. So again, it's a little bit unconventional

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Speaker 4: advice because I can always tell people to, you know,

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Speaker 4: save money, and you know why stock all, But now

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Speaker 4: I want to give somebody a little bit unconventional advice

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Speaker 4: because it's the kind of advice that most people will

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Speaker 4: never think about, they will never get and that's why

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Speaker 4: I want to give it to them. And again, there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of advice I could give, but I do

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Speaker 4: think that's something that gets overlooked by a lot of

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Speaker 4: Americans because we just never know when bad things can happen.

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Speaker 4: Hurricanes occur, earthquakes occur, things happen that you never expect.

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Speaker 4: And again, we just you know, as they say, the

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Speaker 4: history of the future has yet to be written, and

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Speaker 4: the future can hold all sorts of good and bad things.

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Speaker 4: And you want to be prepared for the good and

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Speaker 4: prepared for the bad, hope for the best, and prepare

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Speaker 4: for the worst, as they say.

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Speaker 2: I love that he is Mark W. Smith.

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Speaker 3: His book is called israela Disarmed Check out four Bucks's

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Speaker 3: Diner his YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on, Mark, you are fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Carol, thanks so much for joining us on

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