1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Lake Kick is Live. It is 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Thursday night, it is April ninth, the year of our lawyer, 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. We are very happy to have you with us. Yeah, 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: we'll get that out of the way. Now. We've got 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: a lot to get to Tonight. We're actually going to 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: talk some college football playoff expansion, not because we necessarily 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: want to, but because we are more or less being 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: forced to because you've been talking about it a lot. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: So we're gonna give your take on that again. I'm 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: also going to somehow tie in wrestle Mania thirty six 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: and what the wwe just pulled off somehow, some way 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: to what we may see in college football. I know 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: a lot of you guys may not be aware of 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: what they just pulled off because maybe you're like me 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: and you don't watch the modern day product. But really, really, 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: really incredible what they were just able to pull off. 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Paton. This is the Late Kick. We're happy 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: to have you with us. 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However, I wanted 28 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: to as I get my notes in order here, I 29 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: wanted to start there we go. I wanted to start 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: with a report that's been circulating, a report by Brett 31 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: McMurphy from Stadium that's been circulating for now a couple 32 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: of days. It looks like he took some time, did 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 1: Brett McMurphy, And he reached out to a whole bunch 34 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: about all of them, actually Power five and G five. Now, 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: for those of you who don't really care about these abbreviations, 36 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: power five is a Power five, acc SEC, Big ten, 37 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Big twelve, PAC twelve, those athletic directors, and the G 38 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: five is like your American Athletic Conference, etc. And so 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: he reached out to a bunch of ads across all 40 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: of FBS and he was asking them about playoff expansion. Now, 41 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: I want to give you my take, but first I 42 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: want to give you the takeaways from what this report 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: shared at McMurphy The big headlines take away eighty eight 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: percent of fbsads want playoff expansion again. Eighty eight percent 45 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: want to expand beyond the current four team model that 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: we have. I want to read some quotes just follow 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: along with me. These are mostly I think they're all anonymous. Actually, 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: more and more fans are only concerned with the playoff. 49 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: One Power five AD said, that's sad but true. So 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: we should expand the playoff when possible, even if that 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: impacts the bowl system. We have to figure out a way, 52 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: said another anonymous athletic director from the Power five. More 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: teams in the playoff is good for the fans and 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: it's good for the student athletes. We continue. How about 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: this G five AD getting really mouthy. If they go 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: any other way and they don't include automatic qualifiers for 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: G five teams, it would create the opportunity for an 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: anti trust lawsuit. I'll get back to that. That's a 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: really fun quote. How about one group of five AD 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: preferring the eight teams to be composed of the Power 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: five conference champions, two of the top ranked G five teams, 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: and one at large selection. That is your eight team field. 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: His quote that way, with two non Power five teams 64 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: making the playoff, it would keep the incentive for the 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: investment in opportunities for more teams. No or little access 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: for the non Power five teams would drive dis investment alrighty, 67 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: let me give you some notable figures here, Power five ads. Now, 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: let's just say this slowly because there are a lot 69 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: of numbers and a lot of letters, and I'm really 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: going to make it make sense in just a second. 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: Power five athletic directors, seventeen percent of them support the 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: current model four teams, eighty three percent want to expand this. 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Out of the G five athletic directors, only nine percent 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: support the current model and ninety one percent want to expand. 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I'm surprised it's as low 76 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: as ninety one percent. I thought all the G fives 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: would be on board with that. Now came the next question. 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm already not on board with playoff expansion. You know that, 79 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because I'm not an athletic director 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: and these people are albeit anonymous right now, but they are. 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: And so the question was posed, well, since you all 82 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: want to expand what should an eight team playoff look like? 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Who should get in? Now, this is where things really 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: get fascinating. Out of Power five athletic directors, fifty nine 85 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: percent support in a model where all the Power five 86 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: conference champs get in, two at large teams get in, 87 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: and one spot is guaranteed to a G five team. 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: UCF boise, you understand. Thirty five percent of the Power 89 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: five athletic directors won a model where you just have 90 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: five conference champs from the Power five and then three 91 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: at larges and six percent just want to take the 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: top eight teams spineless. I'll tell you why in just 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: a second. Out of the non Power fives, so that 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: G five athletic directors, seventy one percent of them, so 95 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: an overwhelming majority want the eighteen model where it's five 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Power five champs, two at larges and then the top 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: G five team so they get one guaranteed spot at 98 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: the table. Another eighteen percent of them support other, and 99 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the other is. I think it 100 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: was vocalized anonymously in the Brett McMurphy piece. A lot 101 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 1: of those G fives want five Power five conference champs 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: and then three guaranteed spots for them. That's what they want. 103 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll get it, but that's what they want. 104 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: I want to just give you a metaphor, so I 105 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: just threw a lot at you. Don't worry, You don't 106 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: need to remember all those numbers. I want you to 107 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: think about something. Let's say I've got two televisions in 108 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: front of you and you can only focus your attention 109 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: on one TV. You have got on one TV a 110 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: dude that has a high wire strung all the way 111 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: across the Grand Canyon and he's about to walk it. 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: And then on the other TV there's a guy who 113 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: has the same grade and the same strength high wire 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: strung across a river twenty feet above the water, and 115 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna walk it. I want you to think about 116 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: which TV you are more likely to watch Grand Canyon 117 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: twenty feet above a river, thousand foot fall, potentially twenty 118 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: foot fall, potentially. Think about that. Quick takeaways from what 119 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: we just talked about here. I don't care about the 120 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: eighty eight percent number. Of course, an overwhelming majority of 121 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: athletic directors are gonna want playoff expansion. No one's in 122 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: this for the greater good of the sport. If you're 123 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: an athletic director, if you're a head coach, if you're 124 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: a fan, really, for that matter, your number one interest 125 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: is your program, your university, your team, your best interest. 126 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: So very few people who were surveyed about this, even 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: if really they thought the integrity of the game would 128 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: be harmed by expanding the playoff, would opt to place 129 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: what's best for the game over what's best for their university. 130 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Don't pay attention to the eighty eight percent. Here's what 131 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: we can't know who is in the twelve percent. Not 132 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: all voices at this table or equal, nor should they be. 133 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: This is not about equality and it's not about inclusion. 134 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Some of the voices at this table from maybe major 135 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: programs in the Big ten, major programs in the SEC, 136 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: carry a lot more weight they should, for what I 137 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: would say, or obvious reasons. And therefore, if they don't 138 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: want to move, you may not have a whole lot 139 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: of movement. I don't care, and I actually found it 140 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: somewhat humorous that there was threat of an anti trust 141 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: lawsuit by one of these a group of five athletic directors. 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: Let me read this quote again again. This is a 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Brett McMurphy piece. From Stadium, an anonymous G five athletic 144 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: director who when asked about expanding to eight teams in 145 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: a playoff, if they go any other way and they 146 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: don't include automatic spots for G five, it would create 147 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: the opportunity for an anti trust lawsuit. Well, that's one 148 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: way to look at it. Here's the other way to 149 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: look at it. That was Dan Mullen at Florida. I 150 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: think we just saw some Georgia b roll. We've got Ohio, State, Michigan, Alabama, 151 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: we got all these big programs that bring in money 152 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: that dwarfs what most G fives bring in. They have 153 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: stadium sizes that dwarf, they have investment, they have tradition 154 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: that dwarf those of your average or even top tier 155 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: G five. What say, as you threaten your anti trust lawsuit, 156 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: they just peel that NCAA sticker off their helmet and 157 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: toss it away. Then what you going to do? They're 158 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: not at the table anymore. They found a new table 159 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: to sit at. They said, it turns out you guys 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: needed us a whole lot more than we need you. 161 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Why don't we just branch off and form a new 162 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: entity entirely try the lawsuit I would actually encourage you 163 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: try the lawsuit. I also want you to notice this 164 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: when I said spineless in reference to a lot of 165 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: the Power Five Conference commissioners, I again want to circle back. 166 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: All I have ever cared about is just crowning the 167 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: best team in college football. And I think from a 168 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: fans point of view, most of you, even the ones 169 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: who want to expand the playoff, what you really want 170 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: is you want to find out who the best team 171 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: in college football is. We just differ in the ways 172 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: that we think our best to go about that. A 173 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: lot of these folks in the athletic director chair don't 174 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: care about any of that. Obviously. They care about money, 175 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: and they care about access, and they know that they've 176 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: got to seat at the table, and if they do, 177 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: then there's more guaranteed money for them. Hey, I'm not 178 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: painting them as evil. I understand that's probably the way 179 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: that I would active fire an athletic director. But here 180 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: it's where all of the intellectual dishonesty really comes to light. 181 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: I told you the Power Five ads were asked as 182 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: part of this Brett McMurphy piece, if we do go 183 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: to an eight team field, what should be the model 184 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: only six percent of Power five athletic directors said that 185 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: we should just take the top eight teams. Allow me 186 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: to translate. If we expand to eight and we just 187 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: take the top eight teams, the SEC is going to 188 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: run rough shot over this playoff, and if not the SEC, 189 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: than a combination of the SEC and the Big Ten 190 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: and Clemson and Oklahoma any given year. So let's expand it. 191 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: But then let's make sure that we get a guaranteed 192 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: spot at the table too. Here's where it's intellectually dishonest. 193 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't care about a conference championship. I don't care 194 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: about automatic bids. I don't care about a guaranteed spot 195 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: at the table for anyone. I don't think anyone should 196 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: have an automatic bid before a season has even been played. 197 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: I don't think a conference, including the Southeastern Conference, including 198 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, should have an automatic spot at any table. 199 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: I again view the reason why as pretty obvious. So 200 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: we circle back around to talking about the best way 201 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: to crown a national champion. And I've always been of 202 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: the four and no more mentality. I put a simple 203 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: formula on the table. This is how my mind works 204 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: when I think about what makes college football great. Exclusivity 205 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: makes it great. There are only four spots at that 206 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: table at the end of the year. Just because someone's 207 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: mass at the end of the year doesn't mean something's broken. 208 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: It means you've created something valuable, that being playoff spots 209 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: from exclusivity. Exclusivity equals value equals urgency equals drama. That's 210 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: why you can have a game in college football in 211 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Week four, like Notre Dame Georgia this past year, I 212 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: think was in Week four, Notre Dame goes into Athens. 213 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: For all you know, Notre Dame's playoff chances are done 214 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: when they lose that game, because you look at the 215 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: rest of the way, they may not have the strength 216 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: of schedule necessary to climb back. You don't know what 217 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: it does to Georgia. We don't know. It's not that 218 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: their season is over. It's that they are no longer 219 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: playing with a giant safety net. Let's go back to 220 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: the metaphor that I suggested that you keep in the 221 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: back of your mind, because this makes no mistake about 222 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: it is what makes college football great. When I made 223 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: this argument, and when I always make this argument, someone 224 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: comes back and says, hey, if we take away the 225 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: value of one or two games in the regular season 226 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: so that on the back end we can have more 227 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: playoff games. I'm all for it. I'm not. I'm not 228 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: all for that, because I'll be honest with you, I'll 229 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: take one big time Alabama LSU game, or one big 230 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: time Georgia Auburn game, or one big time Big Ten 231 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: or SEC championship game over seven games to find out 232 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: who the seven or eight seeds are that are going 233 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: to be three plus touchdown underdogs in the first or 234 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: second round of your playoffs. I don't care about that. 235 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Meaningful is very relative to me. Those games, the ones 236 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: that pit great versus great, those mean a lot to me. 237 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: Whether Cincinnati or Memphis get into the playoffs a G 238 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: five automatic, that's not a meaningful game to me, I 239 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: don't care about it. You may differ an opinion. I'm 240 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: just giving you my opinion because I think that's what 241 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: you want from me, and then we can agree to disagree, 242 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: or I can try and change your mind. But let's 243 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: go back to the metaphor. Because here's what means everything 244 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: to mean, here's what is very very exclusive to college 245 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: football the regular season. It's a very tired argument for 246 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: those of you who differ in opinion. But yet I 247 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: keep bringing it because you say creating more playoff spots 248 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: creates more meaningful games, and I'm telling you it doesn't, 249 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: because by default, when you increase the percentage of numbers 250 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: at the table, then you decrease the value by default. 251 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: And then what we get is, instead of being able 252 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: to watch the guy tight rope across the Grand Canyon, 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: we just watch some teams tight rope across a river 254 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: twenty feet above it. Why would you rather watch the 255 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Grand Canyon, be brutally honest, it's because someone could die. 256 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: No one's dying when they fall off a rope above 257 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: a river twenty feet And likewise, I would rather tune 258 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: into one game that has the consequence of the Grand 259 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: Canyon tight rope walk over ten games that has Oh 260 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: my goodness, I mean we lost, darn it. We were 261 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: going to be the number two seed. Now we're going 262 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: to be the number six seed. Oh well, that's not 263 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: College football never should be what it is. No one 264 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: should operate with a safety net. But yet that's what 265 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people are suggesting that we do. And 266 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: that's what they're suggesting is the best way to take 267 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: the game. But I go back listen, it's obvious this 268 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: is going to happen eventually. To me, I don't know 269 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: if it's going to happen in the next couple of years, 270 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: but when the next round of TV contracts and playoff 271 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: contracts come up yet, it's probably gonna happen. I don't 272 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: have to like it. But even when we expand this thing, 273 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: you will have to drag me over broken glass to 274 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: ever acknowledge that guaranteed spots at the table are what's 275 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: best for college football. No, it may be what's best 276 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: for a conference, it may be what's best for a program, 277 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: it's never what's best for college football. Automatic bids from 278 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: any conference at the beginning of the year are never 279 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: what's best for the sport. But I digress, move on. 280 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: Every time I talk about expansion, I sound like e 281 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: Or from Winnie the Pooh because that's my attitude. I 282 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: guess it's gonna happen. What could college football learn fromre Mania? 283 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: What a question. I woke up this morning, had no 284 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: idea we were going to talk about this on the 285 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: show tonight, but I read a I think it was 286 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: from Business Insider. I don't know it's an article. I 287 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: don't normally get a lot of ideas for the show 288 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: from I'll tell you that. But I'm reading about the 289 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: returns financially that WWE got from their latest WrestleMania. So 290 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: let's ask the question right off the top, what could 291 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: we learn about the future of college football from what 292 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: World Wrestling Entertainment just did with WrestleMania. Most of you, 293 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: some of you probably aren't aware of what just happened. Obviously, 294 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: we've got coronavirus to deal with. And over the last month, 295 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: month and a half, how long has it been, Colin, 296 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: We've seen college football grind to a halt. NCAA tournament 297 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: was stop dead in its tracks. Masters had to be postponed, 298 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: which I think was a very good idea. I'll tell 299 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: you why, as it relates to this in just a second. 300 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: And so everything stopped except for pro wrestling. And Vince 301 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: McMahon had a decision to make his super Bowl is 302 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: every late March early April. It's called WrestleMania. I used 303 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: to watch it every single year. I'm not a fan 304 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: of the current product, but a lot of you are. 305 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: And so he had a decision to make They had 306 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: WrestleMania scheduled for April fifth in Raymond James Stadium and Tampa, Florida. 307 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: They sell it out every year no matter where they are. 308 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: They could get one hundred thousand people at this event 309 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: if they wanted to. So they probably had conservatively sixty 310 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: thousand tickets sold to this event and they had to 311 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: move it, but they didn't cancel it. They moved it 312 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: from a big football stadium into their performance center. See, 313 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: once they bought up all the territories, there were no 314 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: more minor leagues for wrestling, so they had to create 315 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: their own minor league and they opened up a developmental 316 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: territory of their own down in Orlando. They got a 317 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: big performance center there, and they got this small arena 318 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: where they can let the talent do simulated stuff like 319 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: they're eventually going to do in the big league. So 320 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: they took that little arena and held WrestleMania in it 321 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: with no fans. They did it over two nights. This 322 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: was this past weekend. I thought it was a horrendous idea. 323 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was a terrible idea. Let me tell 324 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: you how wrong I was. They ended up generating at 325 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: last check, close to one billion views across all platforms. Guys, 326 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: there are only about seven and a half billion people 327 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: on the planet and about a billion views were netted 328 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: across all digital platforms for WrestleMania in an empty arena. 329 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: What does this have to do with college football. Well, first, 330 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: let me tell you, I thought they should have gone 331 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: the way of the Masters. I thought they should have 332 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: postponed and moved the event to later in the year. 333 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: They're for having your big crowd and your spectacle and 334 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: your showcase of the immortals as they call it. You 335 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: just would have had it a little bit later. Well 336 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: that's not what McMahon wanted to do, because in his words, 337 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I think he was quoted as saying, you know, everybody 338 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: else was walking one way. We were going to be 339 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: the one tent pole that stayed. And that's all well 340 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: and good. I mean, the guy knows a lot more 341 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: about his business than I do, and he knows his 342 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: audience a lot better than I do, apparently, because I 343 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: thought it was terrible. But I'm not his audience anymore. 344 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't watch anymore. When I log onto his network, 345 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: I watched stuff from nineteen ninety seven. I don't watch 346 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: stuff from two twenty twenty. So point being crisis forced 347 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: innovation for them. Now what I found to be abhorrent, 348 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: apparently a lot of you loved. They went all kinds 349 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: of different ways with this what they turned into an opportunity. 350 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: They included cinematography. They had a couple of matches that 351 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: were shot like movies. Undertaker was in one of them. 352 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: They had a couple of like cinematography based action movies 353 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: that were matches, which makes no sense to me, but again, 354 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: I don't have to get it if his audience gets it. 355 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: And what happened was that was not in the game 356 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: plan two months ago. A lot of what they did 357 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: a talent's ability to work without a crowd that they've 358 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: been able to lean on as a crutch their entire careers, 359 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's not there. Some people 360 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: drowned and some people soared, and you found out a 361 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: lot about your talent roster. But you also had forced innovation, 362 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: which is exactly what's happening in college football right now. 363 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: You don't realize it because right now we're not past 364 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: this in college football, and there are a lot of 365 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: staffs that are well, every staff is sitting at home 366 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: and there is no game plan even I think the 367 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: worst of contingency plans. I don't think many of these 368 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: staffs ever had contingency for well, what happens when there's 369 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: a global pandemic and we just don't have spring and 370 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: we don't do anything, and we just have to sit home. 371 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: But yet everyone's having to learn on the fly. My 372 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: point is Alabama's doing it the best way. Alabama knows how, 373 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Arizona State's doing it the best way. Arizona State knows how. 374 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: When we get to the fall, you're going to see 375 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: somebody figured it out. And it may not be who 376 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: you expect, but someone was innovative. Someone created new ways 377 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: to do for their program what spring Ball would normally do. 378 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: You're without spring, whatever development, whatever install and implementation of 379 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: new systems you would have had, you don't have it. 380 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: But yet the regular season is still going to arrive. Guys, 381 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I would bet every dollar I have 382 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: We're going to have college football in twenty twenty. I 383 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: tweeted that out Monday. Some people laugh, some people are. 384 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: In fact, a lot of people agreed, well, LOI the 385 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: whole e SESPNS Adam Schefter today he's a little bit 386 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: more reputable I will grant you that got a few 387 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: more sources in the back pocket said, the overwhelming thought 388 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: among college football power brokers is that there will be 389 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: a season this fall. Season's going to arrive. If you 390 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: didn't get it figured out in the time of crisis, 391 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: you're going to be exposed. Here's what we don't know yet. 392 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: All the stuff with WrestleMania has already happened. We can 393 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: look in our rearview mirror and see that who figured 394 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 1: out a way who figured out a way to simulate installing, 395 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: who figured out a way to using zoom teleconferences accomplish 396 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: with a quarterback and a new offensive coordinator what previously 397 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: you would have been on a football field doing. And also, 398 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: how are the lingering effects of the innovation that was 399 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: forced through crisis going to bleed into the future of 400 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: college football. Here's one that I think a lot of 401 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: you in the business world are asking. See. A lot 402 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: of people in our industry, in the media industry, have 403 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: understood for a while we don't physically need to be 404 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: in an office with the advancements in technology. A lot 405 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: of other people. It's not exclusive to ours. I've just 406 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: worked in this industry, so I know it a lot 407 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: more people have said for a long time. You know, 408 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: I understand having the physical workspace, and I understand that 409 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: there are you know, circumstances that require us to be together, 410 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: but man, we could really make a lot of this 411 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: happen from home. Well, here at twenty four seven Sports, 412 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: we've made a lot of stuff happen from home. In fact, 413 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, we haven't skipped a beat 414 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: as a company. A lot of our internals have looked 415 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: even better than we thought they would have looked if 416 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: everything was normal. And so how does that apply to 417 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: college football? What do you see that you're able to 418 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: do without physically being in the office and physically being 419 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: around your players that you can translate to the future 420 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: even when things go back to quote unquote normal. Now, 421 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one that's been expressed to me by 422 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: a few people. I was talking to a Power five 423 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: head coach the other night and asked kind of a 424 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: derivative of this question, and the one piece of feedback 425 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: I got overwhelmingly as he said, we were in the 426 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: office too much. I thought it was a requirement. And 427 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: the main reason that this coach thought it was a 428 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: requirement was just that's the way they'd always done it, 429 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: and he knows that that's roughly the amount of hours 430 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: the competition spends in the office. Therefore, if we're not 431 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: in the office that much, we're falling behind. Well, maybe 432 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: there are ways to get creative. Dabosweny has already been 433 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: doing this. Now. They don't work one hundred twenty hours 434 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: a week at Clemson. They don't work in the office 435 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty hours a week. I think a 436 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: lot more staffs on the back end of this will 437 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: find that. Hm, it turns out we were okay, and 438 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: it turns out a lot of the stuff that we 439 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: still need to do can be accomplished while you're home 440 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: with the family. Now, I know a lot of folks 441 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: are going to go right back to doing it the 442 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: way that they always did. I'm just telling you from 443 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: installs and implementation to the way strength and conditioning works. Maybe, 444 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: for example, you love the fluidity and flexibility of your 445 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: players this fall, even when they have not lifted heavy 446 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: like maybe previously your strength and conditioning program and would 447 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: have had them lifting. Maybe you find out you had 448 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: some things a little bit backwards. Maybe a lot of 449 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: the stretch and stride and band work and just overall 450 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: calistenic and high intensity interval training work that are being 451 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: done right now. Maybe that better prepares you for a 452 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: football season, then how many times you can squat four 453 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: h five. Not that there isn't a lot of requirement 454 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: for power in this sport. Please don't get me wrong. 455 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: I stand on the sidelines every Saturday. I know what 456 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: my eyeballs tell me. But I also know that this 457 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: time next year, a lot of guys that lead programs 458 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: are going to be doing things that are no longer 459 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: necessities simply because they found a better way in a 460 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: time of crisis, Just like Vince McMahon just found a 461 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: better way somehow in a time of crisis than he 462 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: would have if he held WrestleMania in a football stadium. 463 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: And that is how WrestleMania applies to college football right now. 464 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: We had a number of questions in the inbox, so 465 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: let me get to a few here. Always love the 466 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: name Atticus, so I'm going to lead it off with 467 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: a question from Atticus. It's a question that, as far 468 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: as I can tell, I've heard asked every year about 469 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Auburn football. The tight end position and the fullback position, 470 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: are they going to be incorporated and used more this year? 471 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: There were times back in I would call them Gus 472 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: Malzon's glory days. I mean, the very beginning of his 473 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: stay at Auburn. How does it get any better than 474 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: playing for a national championship unless you win one? And 475 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: they came up just short. But back then and in 476 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: the couple of years after that, they had some really 477 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: really good offensive personnel pieces that were overlooked because they 478 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: had been recruited and underdeveloped and improperly leveraged and utilized. 479 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: Guys like Jay Prash, who's kind of a last of 480 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: a dying breed sort of player. Phenomenal fullback cj Ozama 481 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: was a guy they had as a tight end that 482 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: they could just as easily flex out to a slot receiver. 483 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: And obviously why that was so important is because Malason's 484 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: offense could be multi and they could work with tempo 485 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: and do the same thing that LSU just did this 486 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: past year. If Thadeus Moss was used a lot the 487 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: same way at the tight end quote unquote tight end 488 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: position for LSU that cj Ozama used to be used, 489 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: it's really hard when a guy can line up as 490 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: an inline blocker and then thirteen seconds after the whistle 491 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: is blown, line up in the slot and you don't 492 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: get to substitute defensively because you don't have time to 493 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: Those are the pieces they used to have. They haven't 494 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: been that versatile. Therefore, they haven't been that multiple. You 495 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: got to have versatility with your personnel to be multiple 496 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: in your packages. They haven't had that. And so every 497 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: off season, as Atticus just asked, folks ask at Auburn, 498 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: how are we going to fully incorporate full back in 499 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: the tight end because that's what they remember. And the 500 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: answer is, I have no clue. Every single year in 501 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: spring camp there are names like JJ Wilson. This past year, 502 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: I remember was a name that I kept reading about 503 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: out of Auburn, and I was paying attention because I 504 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: always pay attention to those position groupings because I know 505 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: that's when Malson's offense is at its best. And I 506 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: know you just hired a new offensive coordinator in Chad Morris. 507 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna call it Gus Malson's offense. My answer, 508 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Atticus is I don't know there was the obligatory, Oh, 509 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: we're going to use the tight end more. But you 510 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: hear that with every offensive coordinator hire. When's the last 511 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: time an OC got hired and said, you know, I 512 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: don't really have a whole lot of use for tight ends. 513 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: Even if they don't, they never say it. It's no 514 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: good for recruiting, and it's no good for telegraphing what 515 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: you do, and so it also doesn't excite a fan base. 516 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: You get a guy who talks about how we're going 517 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: to properly utilize the tight end position that really fires 518 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: up a fan base. My answer is, I have no clue. 519 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: And since we didn't get any spring ball at Auburn, 520 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: and this is one of many programs hiring a new 521 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and yet losing a spring to install, what's 522 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: Gus Malson doing at Auburn right now? How are they 523 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: marrying what bo Nix can do and the personnel that 524 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: they have currently and having to replace all these offensive 525 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: linemen with what they're going to do offensively? What if 526 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: previously Gus Malson was fully bought into handing over the 527 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: reins of the offense to Chad Morris, but now without 528 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: a spring to install whatever new they were going to do, 529 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he has trepidation, cold feet, he 530 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: feels uncomfortable. What if that happens at Georgia? What if 531 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: that happens at LSU? Defensively, a lot of what ifs. 532 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: Some of them are going to figure it out, others 533 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: are going to be exposed in the fall. Don't know 534 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: who's going to be who yet, Clem and Son. Don't 535 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: know if it's an auto shop company in South Carolina 536 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: or this is just a really fancy screen name. Clem 537 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: and Son, now think about this. This is a future's bet. 538 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: You can bet along with me. Florida State is currently 539 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: twenty and thirteen all time. Full disclosure, I did not 540 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: check the validity of this. Colin saw me get the 541 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: question and write it down. According to Clem and Son, 542 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna hope the stats right. FSU is twenty and 543 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: thirteen all time versus Clemson, who reaches twenty one wins 544 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: first translation. Will Clemson win eight consecutive games over Florida 545 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: State before Florida State's able to win one? Well, by default, 546 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: I just have to assume either disasters going to strike 547 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: at some point, Upset's going to strike at some point, 548 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: or maybe Mike Norvell will just become very competitive at 549 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: Florida State, so they got to win one before Clemson 550 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: wins eight. I'm gonna take FSU to win one game. 551 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: Thomas Hallman just gave us a darn near five dollars, 552 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: so I've got to acknowledge him. We are always appreciative 553 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: of the super Chats. Should we assume the means South 554 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Carolina here? Should we give Muschamp another year because I 555 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: don't know if Bobo has time to build a new offense. 556 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: This is actually a really good question, and it applies 557 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: beyond South Carolina. Think about who you perceive to be 558 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: on the hot seat. Will must Champ fits that description 559 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: entering springball, entering the twenty twenty season, who was on 560 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: the hot seat? Now? I want you to imagine a 561 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: world wherein these programs lose football revenue. I don't think 562 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: this will happen, but it could happen. What if there 563 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: is a medium that has to be met where college 564 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: football games are played in empty stadiums? Again, don't force 565 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: that happening, but what if it does happen? How does 566 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: that impact the financial coffers of programs like South Carolina, where, 567 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: in turn, instead of readily being able to pay buyout 568 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: money all of a sudden, you've got to really tighten 569 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: up the purse strings. Just one very side sort of 570 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: ancillary note to keep in mind, this could be in play. 571 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: You could have a lot of guys with sort of 572 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: a figurative stay of execution if the revenues for football 573 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: are impacted in the twenty twenty season. So it's a 574 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: good question there, Thomas. I think a lot of it depends. Well, 575 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: it first and foremost depends on how they operate this year. 576 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: And you asked about Bobo and the installation of the offense. 577 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: I will tell you this from someone really close to 578 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: those guys and really close to the program, there is 579 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: for the first time a sense that Musschamp has a 580 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: guy as his OC that he has no problem totally 581 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: handing control to. We've heard it said before. All I 582 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: can tell you is, I've never fully heard that centiment 583 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: expressed from the particular people that I'm talking about right now. 584 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: So I have no choice but to believe them. Well, 585 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: I have a choice, but I'm going to believe them, 586 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: and therefore I'm going to believe that even with the 587 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: current circumstances as they are, Will mus Champ and Mike 588 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: Bobo believe that they can be offensively what they need 589 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: to be. If you miss the sort of comparison that 590 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: I gave it's been a couple of weeks now to 591 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: South Carolina this year. You can think of South Carolina 592 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: football this year the same way you think of being 593 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: rushed in the morning. You know the feeling you have 594 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: probably not gone to the office in a little while. 595 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: But eventually when things return to normal. My guess is may, 596 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: by the way, when things return to normal and a 597 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: lot of us start going back to an office on 598 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: a day to day basis, you got to be there 599 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: at eight am, and it's seven point forty one already, 600 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: and it's a twenty ish minute drive to work. You 601 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: already don't know if you're going to get there on time. 602 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: So you grab your stuff, you grab your keys, you 603 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: grab your briefcase, and you get in the car and 604 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: you're flying down the interstate, running through in your mind 605 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: the checklist. Did I remember everything? All the while? If 606 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: you forgot something, you have no opportunity to turn around. 607 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: So that's South Carolina this year. If everything hits the 608 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: ground running as it's supposed to, they could be a 609 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: good team this year. But if even one thing goes wrong, 610 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: they don't have time to fix it right now. Will 611 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Muschamp is not working with an extra year in his 612 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: back pocket. He doesn't have that safety net. I thought 613 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: he had it last year, and I was right. I 614 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: didn't never buy into the hot seat talk last year. 615 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: I do if things are back to normal. I do 616 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: this year. So if they leave the house at seven 617 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: forty one and they got everything they can get there 618 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: by eight o'clock, are they gonna have everything? That's the 619 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: big question. Uh Luke Wilman said. Biggest impact freshman for 620 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: LSU this year, Easy answer for me, Eric Gilbert, if 621 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: he's healthy, tight end out of Marietta. I know Thaddeus Moss. 622 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: Two Thattius Moss mentions on the show tonight. I know 623 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: Thattius Moss was a phenomenal play for LSU. Please don't 624 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: misunderstand me here. I think Eric Gilbert has the opportunity 625 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: to be a generational talent for whoever he plays for. 626 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: This was the biggest surprise to me in the entire 627 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: recruiting cycle last year. Everyone I knew thought it was 628 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: down to Georgia and Alabama, and then everyone leading up 629 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: forty eight hours seventy two hours leading up to his announcement. 630 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: Every guys, I mean folks who don't miss on this stuff. 631 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Everyone who's reputable thought he was going to Alabama. I 632 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: would have put about as much money as I'm comfortable 633 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: staking on a seventeen year old kid's decision on him 634 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: going Alabama while he goes to LSU. Huge get. It 635 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: didn't happen on National signing Day. That's why I think 636 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: it was lost in the shuffle. It happened before signing day. 637 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: Big get for LSU. So what he is is he's 638 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: a guy who has all the characteristics of being a 639 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: true number one receiver, but yet he happens to weigh 640 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: about two hundred and forty two hundred and fifty pounds. 641 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: He's got freakish athleticism. He played at Marietta High School. 642 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: They played really good teams. That's a suburb of Atlanta 643 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: for those of you unfamiliar geographically. And I remember so vividly. 644 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: I was on the field for one of his games, 645 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: but I remember so vividly. They would run like jet 646 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: sweeps with him, end of rounds with him from the 647 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: tight end spot, and he would get the corner on 648 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: defensive backs that he was giving up seventy five pounds 649 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: to and it looked like he did it with ease. 650 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: He ran a lot like I'll tell you a good 651 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: comparison would be I don't know, maybe Campbell or maybe 652 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson's probably a good comparison of his running style. 653 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Head doesn't move. You know, he runs like a racehorse, 654 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 1: but his head doesn't move. It just looks so effortless, 655 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: so fluid. That's Eric Gilbert, I think. And now with 656 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: the offense they run down there with again being able 657 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: to properly use the insane amounts of wide receiver and 658 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: tight end talent they've always had. Eric Gilbert if he's healthy, 659 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: I know he had an offseason surgery. If he's healthy, 660 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: he'll be the impact freshman for LSU. I don't have 661 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: a lot of doubt about that. And when I mentioned 662 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: Thadeus Moss, I mentioned his name because as good as 663 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: Thadius Moss was, I think the tight end position was 664 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: upgraded the day Eric Gilbert stepped on campus. Moss is 665 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: going to the NFL. He's about to be playing on Sundays. 666 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: Eric Gilbert's that good. I think he'll be that good 667 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: as a true freshman Jaden Smith asked about herm Edwards 668 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: at Arizona State. What is the ceiling at Arizona State? Well, 669 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: since Texas A and M hired Jimbo Fisher, I now 670 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: view Arizona State and Georgia Tech to be, for very 671 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: different reasons, to be the two biggest sleeping giant programs 672 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: in America. There's no reason, no reason whatsoever why Arizona 673 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: State cannot be a perennial Pac twelve Championship contender, therefore 674 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: could not be a college football playoff contender. Now, two 675 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: things working against him recent history, a current roster, and 676 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: Pac twelve perception. Perception is reality with the Pac twelve 677 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: right now, it's an inferior conference. That doesn't mean a 678 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: good product couldn't come from it, but they're an inferior 679 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: conference right now, and Arizona State has been a largely 680 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: inferior program for a little while. But I asked this 681 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: question last year on our show when we were doing 682 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: it in Georgia, because someone asked me the programs that 683 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: I thought were the biggest sleeping giants. The obvious answer 684 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: for a long time was Texas A and M. They 685 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 1: had everything, They have everything. It takes to win championships 686 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: and they weren't doing it. So at least they went 687 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: out and made a big hire. And it remains to 688 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: be seeing what Fisher's results will be there, but they 689 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: have recognized their hiring potential at least so now that 690 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: I temporarily pushed them aside, Arizona State is the next 691 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: answer here as it pertains to who the biggest sleeping 692 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: giants in college football were. And so you get the 693 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: obvious pushback because they haven't done anything. And yet I 694 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: don't care about what they have done. You're asking me 695 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: what they could do, and so I tell you, well, 696 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: I think they could be a year and in ye're 697 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: out top fifteen kind of program and team. Therefore, and 698 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: when you argue otherwise, I just ask why, look at 699 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: in any given year the top fifteen, what do those 700 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: programs possess that Arizona State doesn't or couldn't possess they 701 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: ever achieved last year? It could be Year one, could 702 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: be flash in the pan, or it could just be 703 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: that Herm Edwards got some stuff figured out. But Arizona 704 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: State's a program. If you believe in buying stock and 705 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: college football programs, that's one for a long time now 706 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: that the buy signal has always been on for me, 707 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: to date, it's still a good time to buy because 708 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: to date the price has not gone up a whole lot. 709 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: We really appreciate you joining us. 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So really boring stuff for you, but it 720 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: means a lot for us, and it helps us grow 721 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: the channel. So we appreciate it. When you click that 722 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: thumbs up button, whether you're watching it live or watching 723 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: the replay, we also appreciate and I can see every 724 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: single time it happens. With the analytics and back door 725 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: of this, I can see every time anyone shares our 726 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: links on Reddit or tweets it out or puts it 727 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: on message boards, and we appreciate that too. I don't 728 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: have time. I can't thank all of you because sometimes 729 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know who does it. I just know that 730 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: it happens. So that's the way. Honestly, we've been able 731 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: to develop a lot of our network is by you know, 732 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: sort of virtually meeting people through different outreach via Reddit, 733 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: via all different kinds of platforms. So we appreciate that 734 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: the Easter Sunday holiday is the most important of the 735 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: year for me personally. We will not have a show 736 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: this Sunday. We will have one next Thursday, so it's 737 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: just one Sunday off. We'll return to normalcy next Thursday. 738 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: The Late Kick podcast is live search Late Kick with 739 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: Josh Paid anywhere you get your podcast or click the 740 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: link in the show description below. And I saw a 741 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: number of you. I had to thank you for this too. 742 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: Gave us five star reviews and left some actual written 743 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: reviews in the podcast link, and we really appreciate that too. 744 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: That helps us a whole lot. Apple pays a whole 745 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: lot of attention to what kind of rating you give someone, 746 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: and they pay a lot of attention to your comments 747 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: and how many comments that you're able to get. So 748 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: we get all that out of the way, have a 749 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: very very good, very safe weekend. I think we're creeping 750 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: closer to normalcy. I certainly absolutely think that a college 751 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: football season is in store for us in twenty twenty. 752 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: Just imagine this as we go. Right now, we're kind 753 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: of in the desert and you're wandering, and you're wandering, 754 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: and you're wandering. But eventually you're going to wake up 755 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: one morning, or you're going to be at lunch in 756 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the day and you're going to pull 757 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: up your phone and there's going to be a breaking 758 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: news alert from wherever you get your news from, and 759 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: it's going to say college football will resume at fill 760 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: in the blank. Think about how happy you'll be. I 761 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: know how happy. Actually, I probably can't put into words 762 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: how happy I'll be, but it will happen. And whereas 763 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: we've been here during the tough times, we'll certainly be 764 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: here in force when the good times return. You've been 765 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: with us the whole time, though, so we really appreciate 766 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: that we'll be back next Thursday. Enjoy your Easter holiday weekend, 767 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: And I'm Josh paid for Colin for Aaron for everyone here. 768 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: This is the late kick. Have a great weekend.