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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, home of the

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Speaker 1: modern white tail hunter, and now your host Mark Kenyon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan, and this week on the show, we are

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Speaker 1: talking traveling to hunt white Tail's epic white Tailed road trips,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by two wild crazy dudes from Texas,

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Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones. No, it's not now, I

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Speaker 1: do that. That was like the intro to the intro

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Speaker 1: and then all right, welcome to the Wired Hunt Podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by First Life. We are off the

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Speaker 1: rails already today, folks. And on the show, I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by two voices you should recognize by now because they

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Speaker 1: have been joining us on the Wired podcast every week

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Speaker 1: this season over on rut Fresh. Welcome back, Tyler, Casey,

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Speaker 1: Thanks man, I'm afraid to say anything. Yeah, you under

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Speaker 1: screwed up. I'm gonna have to keep that in. Mark

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Speaker 1: also used my media name, which is Casey insaid of

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Speaker 1: Casey's good, it's extra work placing that, man. I hate

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Speaker 1: to have to do anything extra Monda. Mark is like

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Speaker 1: leader in the end man, He's not even putting any

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Speaker 1: line out for the end of the rod Yip the

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Speaker 1: year on namph only anyway today on the show. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we are laughing a lot, yes, But I also want

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Speaker 1: to talk, you know, about this crazy year you two

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Speaker 1: everyone listening, not only were going to hear the story

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Speaker 1: of this epic Whitetail road trip you guys have been

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Speaker 1: on all fall. But you know, I know we've had

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Speaker 1: Tony had a conversation with U k C last year

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Speaker 1: at about traveling to deer Hunt, and I think we've

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Speaker 1: talked the two of us about some of this kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff, but I think this year, in particular, you

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Speaker 1: guys have taken it to another level. Maybe it was

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Speaker 1: just the duration and the diversity and the different pressures.

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Speaker 1: I think you've been put under to try to figure

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Speaker 1: out dear Fast in different kinds of places, and somehow

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Speaker 1: you managed to get it done. So I want to

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Speaker 1: break down how you did it, um. But before we

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Speaker 1: get to all of that, I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: is going to be out there in the world. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is, I guess, but I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: like in your world's your Yeah, probably is. I'm answering

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Speaker 1: all my own questions. We could just shot the podcast.

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Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is in case why you're

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Speaker 1: hunt podcast listeners don't know. You guys have officially joined

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Speaker 1: the Mediator family. You were like kind of dating Mediator

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Speaker 1: with Retfresh and now like you're you're in a full

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Speaker 1: bear hug forever. So welcome and congratulations you guys. Thanks man.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm tired, Yeah, tired for sure, but I felt

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Speaker 1: the Mediator stuff. I feel pretty good about it. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, you and I uh discussed at length, um

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Speaker 1: some of the details involved around doing something like this,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it seemed like a really great option for us. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think media was doing some great things

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Speaker 1: and been hunting space and uh, we're glad to be

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Speaker 1: a part of it. Man. It's been cool to get

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Speaker 1: invited on the you know that conversation. But that's fine, guys,

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Speaker 1: you'll have fun without you're just reproducing so much. We

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Speaker 1: come hang out. Yeah, no, it's a it's pretty exciting

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Speaker 1: to uh, you know, kind of um be able to

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Speaker 1: it's kind of how we hunt um caused once. Um,

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Speaker 1: all the help I can get. I don't know you've

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Speaker 1: been seeing the bucks Man. Yeah, you had a good

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Speaker 1: saving that story for your show. Sounds good down the road, um,

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Speaker 1: So everyone will have to tune in. If you are

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Speaker 1: um after you're listening to Rough Fresh and Wired to

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Speaker 1: Hunting Foundations. Of course, gotta pad my numbers. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: enjoy the funny guys bring to the table. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we brought humor. No, this's just nope, sorry, is this

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Speaker 1: the first, the first really big laugh for your show,

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Speaker 1: so just this, you're in store for more of this,

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Speaker 1: all right. So um, we're lining up. We're gonna pick

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Speaker 1: Mark up at the airport, you know. And and we

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Speaker 1: thought about getting balloons and candy and roses and having

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Speaker 1: the big sign. Man, we're too subtle for that. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of my middle name is subtle Um. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're brainstorming about, you know, how we could play a

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Speaker 1: always really easy on him, don't. Yeah, he's Tinder. You know,

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Speaker 1: And so we're like, you know, we could get some

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Speaker 1: that is Wired to Hunt. But instead, you know, if

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Speaker 1: like an overview of this new show was what's it called?

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Speaker 1: can you bring a pack into me so I don't

427
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: have to go out and then back in so save

428
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: some time. We still got in bed at three thirty

429
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: at night, but as pretty awesome, dude, the guys brought

430
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: us pizza back when they brought the packs and in

431
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: the back country drinking carbonated waters and and and eating pizza.

432
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, so this was early so sometimes September, right,

433
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: So what was what was the setup? This is a

434
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: great plain state, this is early season. How do you

435
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: kill two bucks within eight yards of each other the

436
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: same night? Like? What made this place so great? I

437
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: call it providence? But if you want to talk about

438
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: tactics here, uh, I think it's just long ways from

439
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 1: from parking. For one. I mean we walked over a

440
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: mile to get in there, and we also did up

441
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: and down a couple of times. And then you've got

442
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: agriculture on private and good bedding cover on public and

443
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: hunting pretty tight to the bedding cover. Um. And also

444
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: uh they think about the wind, Well, that place has

445
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: weird wind here. It does. It's one of those places

446
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: where like the terrain can there's it's it's hard for

447
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: wind to be just opposite, right, but rank and from

448
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: in my experience, can almost move we in a whole

449
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: cardinal direction. And this place is a lot like that.

450
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: So if you were to say, uh, there's an east wind,

451
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: you might go back there, and it's really a south

452
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: from from this one little spot. Yeah. And here's another

453
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: thing that's hard about that time of years. This is

454
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: like late September but still early season. Warm. We're walking

455
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: in t shirts, you know, sweating pretty hard. Um, you're

456
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: gonna get a still evening in that situation most of

457
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: the time, and your thermals are gonna drop. And this

458
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: is like a thing we've seen across the US is

459
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: that your thermals are dropping towards deer in most situations,

460
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: towards creek bottoms, right, So like, how do you kill

461
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: that deer? And it's literally it's a matter of I

462
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: mean it the micro we call it like micro moves.

463
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: So once you get into the area like a twenty

464
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: yard or a ten yards distance from tree to tree

465
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: that you could could possibly hang in, Like that's the

466
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: difference in killing a deer sometimes And we just happened

467
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: to not mess it up on both ends. And I

468
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: do this thing where we like get out our phones

469
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: and look at the map and just shoot holes in

470
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: the boat as much as we can, and if it

471
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: still floats, we'll hunt it. And if you can find

472
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: a good hunting partner that you trust, and if you

473
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: both can set your pride away and not be like, oh,

474
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: this guy's doging my idea and just realize that, hey,

475
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: we're both trying to kill each other, dear, like you can.

476
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: You can do some pretty good stuff. I get what

477
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: you're saying. No, dear, at the end of that, it

478
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: sounds real weird. It is a huge advantage you're trying

479
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: to kill each other, dear, which you could turn into

480
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: that if you didn't set your producie um. So this

481
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: set up then food betting weird. Wind long distance away

482
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: from the road and these so these bucks are transitioning

483
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: away from bedding cover heading towards those that those food

484
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: sources whatever that was. What was the food source. It's

485
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: actually Milo, which is weird because that's like, I don't

486
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: think that's a preferential thing. In most cases, there might

487
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: have been corn up further, but what I could see

488
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: was Milo, and they weren't actually transitioning straight into that

489
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: they were kind of cutting the corner there, so they

490
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: might have been heading up there was there's a couple

491
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: of pivots in that area. Um, some stuff that's planted. Um,

492
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: that's hard to tell from where they very well could

493
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, you can't go scout the private very well,

494
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: could be water that they're heading two up there too. Um.

495
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: We more reading the fact that it's there's some really

496
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: good trails in the area that lead to that. Uh,

497
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, the means to an end is is kind

498
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: of more important than like what the thing is. It's

499
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: good cover too, so you know there's deer in there

500
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: and they have to go somewhere, you know. So I

501
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: think that time of year you've got bugs and stuff too.

502
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: They will come up high just to get away from

503
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: the bugs because the wind is blowing up there. So

504
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: so so general question that would apply to all of

505
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: your trips, but in this case maybe be an example

506
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: of this. Um, when you're approaching and beginning one of

507
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: these hunts, are you always if you if you know

508
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: the are you already and you know some good stuff,

509
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: do you plunge right into your best stuff route the

510
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: gate or do you always kind of easier way in observe,

511
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: scout and work your way through the trip, Like, how

512
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: do you approach this because you've got you know, four

513
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: or five or six seven days per state, you're doing

514
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: all these different things. What's that like timing and aggressiveness

515
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: level look like as you go through one of these.

516
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: So we have a term that we use for this

517
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: actually because we've kind of identified that, like there is

518
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: a thing where you can be spinning your wheels by

519
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: being too uh conservative on a hunt like that because

520
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 1: you kind of have a limited amount of time right

521
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: you kills them. So we call it being knowledgeably aggressive

522
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: where you take all the pieces that you can collect

523
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: data wise, no matter what that is, driving around, glassing

524
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: food sources, seeing deer movement. You know, you might see

525
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: deer moving to uh water tank ten miles from public ground,

526
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: but then you know water is a limited resource and

527
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna be going to that cattle water tank to

528
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: to get the water. You take all that stuff, mix

529
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: it with map scouting and um, you know, just your

530
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: general hunting knowledge and knowledge of the way dear act,

531
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: and you do the most aggressive thing that you can

532
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: knowledgeably do without saying that's reckless. And that's pretty much

533
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: my approach. I think a lot of people look at this.

534
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: This is a question that's posed a lot of times.

535
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: I think Tony Tony has answered this for me even

536
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: but like I think a lot of people look at

537
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: this whole question as like black and white, and it's

538
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: really not at all. Um Like, there's a middle ground.

539
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: It's just like politics, right, Like there's some middle ground

540
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: there that we could probably all benefit from. Let's dive

541
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: into that. I was actually pivoting what y'all do what

542
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: you want, uh so, but you know, like there there's

543
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: uh the ideas that um, you don't have to be

544
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: it's not aggressive and observation sit you know what I mean,

545
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: Like you can still get into the mix without really

546
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean there's there are times I'll go in and

547
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: sit and be like, dude, if this doesn't work, this

548
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: is gonna mess the whole thing of and and you

549
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: can sometimes make a play that sixty yards from there

550
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: and it's, uh, it stands a chance and messing things up,

551
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: but it's not a guarantee, you know. So I think

552
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: that's where you gotta you gotta sitting somewhere in that

553
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: middle ground, like early on especially um to where you know,

554
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: if if it doesn't work, UM, then you learn something

555
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: and you maybe didn't mess up everything in there. It

556
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: also helps to hone your skill set in that situation

557
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: to where um, that first evening that we're talking about here,

558
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: I took a forty eight yard shot and UM made

559
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: a good shot. And I'm not saying that every guy

560
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: needs to do that, and that I would even do

561
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: that like right now at this time of the year, um,

562
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: because we've been traveling so much. I haven't shot my

563
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: boat all summer like I was in May or may

564
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: not do that, but but I got, you know, knocked

565
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: around on the truck for all I know. Right, But

566
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: if you know that, like, hey, I feel very comfortable

567
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: on large bodied animals out to fifty yards, that extends

568
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: your range and therefore your your radius can be you're

569
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: not intruding on the bubble as much where you can

570
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: still take a shot. And then you pair that with like, um,

571
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: your calling ability. UM, I really feel good about calling

572
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: in early October grunt call it especially uh. And if

573
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: you kind of know how to communicate with deer on

574
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: a at least a hunting type level, and you feel

575
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: pretty confident that you can use that to your advantage

576
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: as well, where you don't feel like you have to

577
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: just bail off in the big mix to try to

578
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: get a shot at one. If you think you can

579
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: get him closer to you, it helps. Hunting a lot

580
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 1: is is a good thing. Man like you. It's not

581
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: even that, um, you know, like we're not sitting here

582
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: trying to toot our own horn or nothing. But like,

583
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: we just hunt a lot. So we see a lot

584
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: of things happen and we learn from that. So that's

585
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: that's why the observation said is not my favorite, you know,

586
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: and that's why we podcast because, Um, I don't ever

587
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: want to call myself an expert, but I have a

588
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: lot of experience now and hopefully people can learn from

589
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: some of the experiences I have. Maybe guys who don't

590
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: get to hunt as much can still like kind of

591
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: secondhand have the experience and that we shared with people. Yeah, alright,

592
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: So biggest takeaway, biggest lesson learned from that Nebraska on

593
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: what was that for you you? Guess? Uh, do you have

594
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: something mm hmmm, I mean I would say, don't don't

595
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: ignore the thing you know that works. Um, we went

596
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: in and killed two bucks in a place that we

597
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: knew was a good spot, and I was trying to

598
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: make something else work for about a day and a

599
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: half and it almost did. But at the same time,

600
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: that other spot was money. I think my takeaway is, um,

601
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: the best food in the area, even if it's not

602
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: a great food source, is the best food in the area.

603
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: So it's all relative. Yeah, it's very relative. So he had,

604
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: uh the mile of thing. I wasn't even really referring

605
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: to that, but he he had really some really good

606
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: encounters early in the trip on what would be known

607
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: as hay Meadows, and it's just because that was the

608
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: only thing there. So yeah, probably a big takeaway. South

609
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: Dakota was next. And here's a question. First, so Nebraska

610
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: was supposed to be like, uh, like a warm up,

611
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: but then he both killed. So now is that going

612
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: to be an episode? That is it's gonna be one.

613
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: I have a disclaimer. Um, like we mentioned, the guys

614
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: were still learning, and the footage is not rock it's

615
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: not trapod footage, you know, So it's good. It's good.

616
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: There's some cool moments, for sure, but like there's some

617
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: there's some times when like these dudes you know, are

618
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: freaking out a huge deer. You know, they're like one

619
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: hand in this thing or whatever. You know. So but

620
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: it's almost more fun though, where you speel the excitement

621
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: from the other side of camera. I think that's what

622
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: we all communicated to when we're playing buck Truck, is

623
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: that that raw nature of just what it would be

624
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: like two follow to hunting buddies around the country. If

625
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: you watching Nebraska, just holding in the air for the

626
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: next few episodes, So South Dakota, then what was the

627
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: what's your headline of the South Dakota trip? Mm hmm.

628
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: And and as you think that through, give me a

629
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: little background as far as was this the place that

630
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: you already knew, did you have scouting intel from previous years,

631
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: or was this a brand new spot? Uh? I ended

632
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: up shooting my dear in a brand new spot, but

633
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: similar area regionally, it was as uh, pretty similar to

634
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: some of the some of that stuff I hunted. I

635
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: guess one of the things with the buck truck is that, um,

636
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: the buck truck flies around when it goes out of state.

637
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: So like our like area of reach is about an

638
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: hour and a half any direction. It's kind of the

639
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: way we treat stuff, you know, that hour and a half.

640
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, outside circumference is real far. I'd like to

641
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: find him a little closer, but if we have to,

642
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: we'll we'll make that jaunt to do it, you know,

643
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: and have done it quite a few times, and um,

644
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: so should we do that a lot easier when we're

645
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: tent camping. Uh So in the past, that's what that's

646
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that we've done to find a year.

647
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: But we actually stated u um he met like a

648
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: pastor up there last year who gave us a wing

649
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: of his church to stay in while there. So it

650
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: was actually super nice because you know, battery charging batteries

651
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: for cameras and just having a decent place to you know,

652
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: lay on air, mattress or whatever it was was nice.

653
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: But it also kind of limits you because you just

654
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: you just can't help it. But like mentally, you are

655
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: pretty locked into that place. This hunt was one of

656
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: the ones that Tony actually or the one that Tony joined.

657
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: Was he allowed in the church? Uh, he came in,

658
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: he did, but it was after dark. Um big takeaway,

659
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: Tony's weird. But actually, truthfully, Tony is a lot taller

660
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: than I thought he was. That's the first time I've

661
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: ever met him in person. He's taller than you. I

662
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: think you, Yeah, he might be like red rounder one's taller. Yeah,

663
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: he's like six two six six three maybe. Yeah. I

664
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: thought he was like my it's like a five eleven

665
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: type guy. And I was like, whoa Tony is tall? So, um,

666
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: that's uh. I will tell you my My biggest uh

667
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: takeaway from that hunt was that from year to year

668
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: places change a ton because in twenty twenty one we

669
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: hunted uh similar top uh country, you know, in the

670
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: same spot per se, but something some of it was. Yeah,

671
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: we covered some of the same stuff and had to

672
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: kind of readjust because it changed so much. One was lush, green,

673
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: rainy while we were there, and the deer were doing

674
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: completely different things than they were this year, which um

675
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: uh you look on the uh USDA drought meters or whatever,

676
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: and it was like extreme drought there. It was very,

677
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: very very dry. So how how much time do you

678
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: give a spot? This is like a situation I found myself.

679
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: And so you go to a place that you know

680
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: in the past, Like produced you go into a zone,

681
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: you feel confidently, all right, I know what do you

682
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: do here? Um? You're going for the first night maybe

683
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: let's say you go in there, it's not what you're expecting.

684
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: When do you decide you need to pivot and change

685
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: things up? Do you go back in the next day,

686
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: but I we're gonna give it another day, or I'm

687
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: gonna give it one more sit or or do you

688
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: say no, I know this place will produce because there's

689
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: this feature that if you give it time, you know

690
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: something will happen. Like how quickly do you assess the

691
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: situation like this and then realize like, I gotta scrap

692
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: this because it's it's gone. Is that I have a

693
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: couple of different scenarios that where I think about this,

694
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: but like it depends on time of year as much

695
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: as anything. So um, during this hunt, Um, it's gotta

696
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: happen quick. I mean it really that For me, I

697
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: I will move, I will pivot quick quick. And almost

698
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: any situation nearly all a year long. But in this situation,

699
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: if they're they're doing the same thing daily, and so

700
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: if you didn't see them the night before, they're probably

701
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: not going to do that the next day more than

702
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: more than likely. Also, um, there's a lot of deer

703
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: in South Dakota, and um, you know you should see

704
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: some deer. So in this situation, I'm very quickly pivoting,

705
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: and that's that's why I ended up on new property

706
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: um on the second day of the season, hunting a

707
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: different place. But um, like in the rut, it's very

708
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: similar there as well. Uh though I can there can

709
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: be like dead days and then just crazy days in

710
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: the rut, but I still don't give it a whole

711
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: lot of time in the rut, So I mean it's

712
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: just kind of in the same thing. Late season goes

713
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: back to those early season patterns a lot of times

714
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: where it's just like if they're not doing it, then

715
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: they're not there pretty much. And I think, um truck

716
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: camera data comes into play here too, and that's the

717
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of the public private type thing. And some people

718
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: run cans on PUB two. But in this situation where

719
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: you don't have any cameras out, so like you run

720
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: into like a different approach where like maybe you know

721
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: you got cameras in a place and there's a couple

722
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: of fifties on camera you don't see in the first night,

723
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: and you're like, ah, this is worth sticking around. Whereas

724
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: we are literally dealing with what we observed. So if

725
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: you don't see them. I'm bouncing quick, you know, like

726
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: there's not many things that keep me in the same

727
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: place too long in that situation. So what ended up

728
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: being the setup that worked in South Dakota, Like what

729
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: worked um I. I found a small property actually that

730
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: had um It had basically it was like a peninsula

731
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: UM that was surrounded by creek like water essentially, and

732
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: had agg on one end, probably a half mile away.

733
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: And then um I ended up So I ended up sitting.

734
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: I did one of my more observation type sits. I

735
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: went in. This is a good thing about saddle hunting

736
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: is that you don't have like a ton of stuff

737
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: on your back. But I went in with the intention

738
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: of sitting on a landmark tree what we call landmark tree,

739
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: which is just a big cottonwood that sticks up higher

740
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: than anything else in the country. And dear ten tend

741
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: to gravitate towards those things that they can see above

742
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: the grassland. And I was gonna hang in that while

743
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: I get in there, and I just don't feel good

744
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: about it. I started, as I'm going in, I find

745
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: some good trails are going up to this agg that

746
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm crossing, and I'm like man, there's a I'm there's

747
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of deer moving up through this stuff without

748
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: even going by the landmark tree there. And so I

749
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: just actually sit sit on the ground and Eric and

750
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: I we're gonna watch deer and potentially be able to

751
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: move across these little saddles and these draws, uh to

752
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: get shots. Well, I started having I'm it's not I'm

753
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: not telling tell the long story anything, but like I

754
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: started having deer moving towards me. But as I'm seeing

755
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: them coming off this peninsula, which is full of willows, Um,

756
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm seeing them like dip down back into this creek

757
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: before they come up towards me, and Uh, I start

758
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: looking at the creek is super dry, Like Casey said,

759
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if there's water there. I mean,

760
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it, but there has to be

761
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: like a deep hole there. I think they're going to

762
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: water and just make that assumption. And like the long

763
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: story short, that's what I did. The next day. I

764
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: the next morning, I sat and I betted a deer

765
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: out on that peninsula and I went and sat next

766
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: to or I assume there was water in there. I

767
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: come in from the other directions it up next to

768
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: a water hole that's just getting hammered, and he comes by.

769
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he was actually going to water. I

770
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: think he was gonna go on up to to act.

771
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: But um, I mean I had him. I had him

772
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: in like ten yards. He was so close that my

773
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: side picture I lost his shoulder in my side picture.

774
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: That's why I made a bad shot because I I

775
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: where I thought I was aiming was not where it

776
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: was aiming. It was like fully my side picture was

777
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: full of Brown's hair. Yeah, so as I was really

778
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: sick though when I pulled the trigger, I was. I

779
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: fully expected him just I mean, I was to watch

780
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: him fall over and didn't happen. But no, tough casey.

781
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: Did you end up shooting one later that idea? And yeah,

782
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: so i'd pull out by struggling for like six days straight.

783
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: And so it's funny that um, uh, Tyler and I

784
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: have affinity for different hunts. He likes evenings. I like mornings.

785
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: What what did you say that? And it's it's weird

786
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: how often it works out that that holds true for

787
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: when we do have good encounters. Uh, so I will

788
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: um that's around like we're talking about and UM see

789
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: some deer on the mornings. Tyler scouted for me some

790
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: in the mornings too. Is we're really the whole trip

791
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: for everybody. He buck chucked around and dropped me all

792
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: places and stuff, and uh, um, you know, I had

793
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: a shot at um uh, a younger deer that I

794
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: was happy to take home um coming off of ag

795
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Uh and um missed. And then on the way out

796
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: ended up bumping um a group of bucks out of

797
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: this little ditch pretty much that led up to an

798
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: egg field. And it pains me to say that I

799
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: killed deer on buck betting, because I like to make

800
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: fun of it that kind of lightheartedly, right, But that's

801
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: truly what I did. We bumped deer at a bucks,

802
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: a group of bucks, out of a thick little pocket

803
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: of like cedary type stuff. And I went back in

804
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: the next morning with a really good wind and just

805
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: it was perfect set up, and and sure enough they

806
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: filter down off the egg in. It was just the thing.

807
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: Did the thing? Did you get up in a tree

808
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: or you I did, Yeah that you got I got

809
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: up in the tree. Did you set up that set

810
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: up right after you bumped him or in the morning

811
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: when you went in in the morning when I went in,

812
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: because UM, I do try to make like like quick

813
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: judgment of things and don't try to like mill things

814
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: over too much. But at the same time, I didn't

815
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: want to hunt that, um that or hang that that

816
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: morning and then needed that evening or something, because I

817
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: might killed here that evening. But I knew that it

818
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: was a good place in the morning, so we went

819
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: in really early hung that morning. I actually made a

820
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: mid morning adjustment to where my platform was in the

821
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: tree because um, we found scrapes um on the way in.

822
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to shoot those scrapes. And then by the

823
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: time I started getting a light, I was like, oh no,

824
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I need to be able to shoot the other direction

825
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: over here. So I actually moved my platform like three

826
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: foot in the daylight. And that was the move that

827
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: made the difference for me. A key thing that I've

828
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: noticed and several of these stories, and I think in

829
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: previous conversations and I have two thousand percent of yours,

830
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: is these micro adjustments like that is such a perfect

831
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: example of what you brought up earlier, Tylor, Like these

832
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: micro things, whether it be with your tree stand being

833
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: ten yards over or your platform being you know, two

834
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: ft too high or too low or whatever, like those

835
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: little tweaks. So much of white tail success comes down

836
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: to predicting something or or adjusting appropriately to what you observed,

837
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: to account for any new possibility, to account for any

838
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: little thing, to keep tweaking, adjust, observe a just observe adjust,

839
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: tweaked this thing, tweak that thing. Um, it's easy to

840
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: to be lazy and so uh and I do it

841
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: all the time. Like there are so many times in

842
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: the sea, like would kill a couple of bucks or

843
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: several bucks a year. It looks cool, but there are

844
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: so many times and I'm like, I was lazy and

845
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I messed it up and I could have shot another one,

846
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: you know or whatever, and you just get so mad

847
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: at yourself, you know, for just being lazy. And it

848
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: really is like you have to. That's a good thing

849
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: about having a hunting partner, you know, like he kind

850
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: of keeps you accountable to to not be lazy or

851
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: hype you up or what take a day off. It

852
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: comes back from like your college football experience where like

853
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: you can't take plays off, and the same thing goes

854
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: with deer hunting. You know. It's kind of a cliche

855
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: thing to go off of. But like, you know, you

856
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: take a playoff, you're getting six on you right, like,

857
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: and deer hunting is the same way you you you

858
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: take a day off and that might be the day

859
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: that he walked under the tree, you know or whatever

860
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: it is. Uh. And that probably for me at least

861
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: comes from a lot of failure in the past. I

862
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: think that we're all gonna make mistakes where humans were imperfect, right,

863
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: So like being able to learn from those mistakes is

864
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: like huge and being able to learn quick kills you dear,

865
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 1: what what microadjustments do you see yourself making? A lot? Oh? Man,

866
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's it's just like constantly going on my head.

867
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: Every hunt I'm on, I'm thinking, man, am I and

868
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: I is it this little knob? But I should be

869
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: hunting on or should I really be you know, ten

870
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: feet over on that a little nob because you have

871
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: a slightly better view you. I mean, so just little

872
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: things like that on you know, on the hunt that

873
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: we that I'm on right now. I mean, you're so

874
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: I do not I'm not a gear much. That's kind

875
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: to me. I've almost kind of yeah, it kind of

876
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: came back from that a little bit you know, he

877
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: can bog you down. Some people I think so too. Yeah,

878
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: some people will do that, um like with me for gear.

879
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: With me, I'm not like the engineering mind, so I

880
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: know where my strong you know things are in my

881
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: weak points and a weak points, Like I don't have

882
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: the brain for engineering for putting stuff together, for like numbers,

883
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: so I have to uh like offload that. So like

884
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: I've got a guy for like my archery stuff that

885
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: I really trust and he can really dial things in

886
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: and he can really know the right weight for this,

887
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: the right length of this, the right everything. So like

888
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: that's the spot I can't do it. But I know,

889
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: like I can use my energy well and efficiently when

890
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: it comes to like should my tree stampy two ft

891
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: should be in this one or should be you know,

892
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: should my trail camera be five yards over here, fifteen

893
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: yards over there? And I'll consider that little tiny adjustment.

894
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: You know, those little things are the things that I do.

895
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned the trail camera thing because we've

896
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: noticed with some of our friends that have been hanging

897
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: some trail cameras. Because now we have them a like app,

898
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: we can see, you know, we'll give some cameras to

899
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: some buddies that'll hang some stuff and be like, man,

900
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: if it was just a little bit angled down, camera

901
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: hanging is kind of an art. It's funny because, uh,

902
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, our longest tenured bro Eric just killed his

903
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: first buck ever that's on our channel, just went out.

904
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: He'd self filmed the thing. It was. It was awesome

905
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: and um he set up on that place. It's a

906
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: place that we've hunted for quite a few years and

907
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: um like the camera those guys hung and they hung

908
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: it like ten or fifteen yards off of like probably

909
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: where we had originally put the things, and we're like, man,

910
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: this place is kind of dead. But we were like, dude,

911
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: I promise you it's gonna be good because that's a

912
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: good spot. So go in there and sure enough all

913
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: the deer where and he called that thing in and

914
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: shot it dude, so you know it made it work.

915
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. Um So, so real quick back to

916
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: South Dakota. I'll move on major takeaway from that trip

917
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: um or lesson something like that though my me, my

918
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: major lesson um is this, um So, I didn't feel

919
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: like I didn't grant to stop that deer and I

920
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: felt like I was too close and I was gonna

921
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: he was gonna come out of a skin if I

922
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: grant stopped him. So, uh, something I have noticed, Um

923
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: this is uh, I don't know you know how much

924
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: you want me to admit this on your podcast, But

925
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: I have hunted feeders a lot in the beat, okay,

926
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: and uh, you learn a lot about deer when you

927
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: hunt feeders because you may spend thirty minutes with dough

928
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: inside of twenty yards does with a dough. Uh, So

929
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: you get to learn a lot about how they react

930
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: to different things, right, And I have noticed that this

931
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: down that's it that makes them look up when they're

932
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: at twenty yards or whatever a lot, especially in a

933
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: quiet evening. And there's something about that frequency that's the

934
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: same as maybe a dough blowing or maybe a leaf

935
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: being drug, a foot being drug across a leaf that's

936
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: like in that frequency range. And I can, I can.

937
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: I've done. I know this because I had a running

938
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: nose at one point and I'm sitting there with these

939
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: does at a feeder and I just am like, you know,

940
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: doing that and every time they would look up. And

941
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: so we talked about this. I think Casey gave me

942
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: the idea. I had told him this story, the same

943
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: thing I'm saying here, and uh, he gave me the

944
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: idea that like, that's what maybe I should have done

945
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: in that situation. Was at ten yards, just go that's

946
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: the element policy now and quiet. If if it's like

947
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: twenty yards or less, we're gonna do just no sniffle.

948
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: But if I don't, if he if he wouldn't, if

949
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't walking, I just felt ten yards. I shot

950
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: a here walking at fifteen last year and just smoked him,

951
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: and so um at ten yards, I just was. I

952
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: thought it was no big deal and I just didn't

953
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: know where he was because the side picture was, you know,

954
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: full of her. So yeah, My big takeaway was don't

955
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: I said earlier, don't assume things are the same year

956
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: to year. Okay, So South Dakota wraps up. You got

957
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: a buck in the truck. You gotta punch tag and

958
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: a tough, tough pill swallow. What was next, Ullinois? I

959
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: can tell this one in about five seconds. We can

960
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: make this quickly. Yeah we Uh, we struggled um to

961
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: find the year we were on a prime farm like

962
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: eleven acres hasn't been gun hunted since the sixties. We

963
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: built a horse barn or yak barn or something on

964
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: this place in the summertime to gain permission. So we

965
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: just offered some help around the farm, and uh, we

966
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: get permission, and long story short, there was there was

967
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: some other guys that have hunted it, bow hunted it,

968
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: and we kind of struggled with the whole permission thing

969
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: because they were not super happy that we are in

970
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: permission to and uh, I mean we hunted five days,

971
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: I think, and we didn't hardly even see a deer

972
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: till day five. For much all the corner was still in,

973
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: all the crops were still in um and they were

974
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: working on a combine, and I kind of went buy

975
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: a game a cheerleading session, like, Hey, what are y'all

976
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna cut this? Yeah, I'll get this thing. They were

977
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: like They're like, oh, we might cut tomorrow or something.

978
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: He's like, Casey was like, oh, yeah, are doing a

979
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: good job. Keep going in tonight if you want a

980
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: man can help. They won't bother us. So but it

981
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: was very tough and uh, basically the last evening, um

982
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: I moved into a huge swamp and UM got caught

983
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: setting up which I think. I think it was one

984
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: of those things where like we're making noise setting up

985
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: in the bucks like they can, there's somebody over there

986
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: raking a tree, you know. And so Eric looked up.

987
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: I was putting my jacket on, and Derek's like it

988
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: was like standing up out of his bed at ninety yards.

989
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: So I didn't get him killed. I called him into

990
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: twenty but it was so thick with willows in there that, uh,

991
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: we couldn't We couldn't even see him at twenty yards.

992
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I can hear him though, I can hear him. He

993
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: sneezed like twenty yards and uh. And then same afternoon,

994
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: Casey and yeah, so neat thing about having a career

995
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: of guys, just like we got the two guys filming

996
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: with us, and there's a guy who ends up being Michael,

997
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: a lot who does a great job. He's like utilitarian man.

998
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: He just does whatever he needed to do. And um

999
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: he Uh he was supposed to be filming Isaac. Yeah,

1000
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: and uh Isaac with vector. He we were hunting with

1001
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: Isaac and so he was supposed to be filming him,

1002
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: and uh, Isaac was having some he had just had

1003
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: to be you know, family man, he had some stuff

1004
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: going on and couldn't hunt that evening. So we were like, hey,

1005
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: if you want to go sit in a tree, see

1006
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: what's going on on this part of the farm, can

1007
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do observationship it's good to do it

1008
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: when you don't have a tag or a bow, like,

1009
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: that's the one time to do observations. So that's what

1010
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Michael did, and uh, he saw Bucks. So I went

1011
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: over there and moved in on that spot that he

1012
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: had seen Bucks, kind of at Afar and um uh,

1013
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: we knew it was gonna be a good spot. Like

1014
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: this is like when we summer scouted this thing. Because

1015
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: we actually went up there, we knew we had the permission.

1016
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: It's like a lot different than other places. Right. Well,

1017
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: it was like this place is gonna be awesome. Let's

1018
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: go hang some cams. We had a couple like you know,

1019
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: quote unquote target Bucks like Bucks that at least met

1020
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: our criteria, you know, and um uh, this area we

1021
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: had some pretty good Bucks on. Well, this area kind

1022
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: of was off limits for a little bit and then

1023
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: it kind of opened up to us. Um So we

1024
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: went over there and thought we're gonna have the same

1025
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: kind of seeing as one of those late October just

1026
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: kind of cool still evenings, but nothing. It's just milk

1027
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: toast kind of evening, you know, nothing like cold front

1028
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: or nothing, wind shift, nothing to like make them do anything.

1029
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: And then finally, like out of the swamp, Greg spots

1030
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: a buck behind us, just standing out on this peninsula.

1031
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: It's like giant buck. And this is where the dramatics start.

1032
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: And I try to not be a dramatics type guy.

1033
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: I really like it whenever things go well and you

1034
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: just smoke them, you know. But this deer comes out

1035
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: and walks to and he's like at forty five and

1036
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: he's at my five o'clock in a saddle which if

1037
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: you saddle hunt, you know, it's like the hardest spot,

1038
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: at least it is for me. And I'm really out

1039
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: of position. I'm watching this deer and then he gets

1040
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: to where I can't see him at all. So I'm

1041
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: looking at Greg, and Greg is looking at the deer

1042
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: and he's telling me what the deer is doing. The

1043
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: deer is going to go away from us. He's angling away,

1044
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: and so I get off the grunt call and start

1045
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: calling at him, and I'm giving him like these soft

1046
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: grunts because it's it's very quiet, and uh. He finally

1047
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: turns a one eight and comes back to us and

1048
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: gets to where he thinks you should be able to

1049
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: see the deer that I am, you know, the grunner,

1050
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: and um, I think he's at like thirty and so, uh,

1051
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: I like try to put my grunt in my pocket.

1052
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: I got my bow in my hand, getting adjusted very

1053
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: slowly because like we're pretty much skylined, you know, like

1054
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: we're really high in this tree because it drops off

1055
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: to where this deer is, so he's like way down

1056
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: from us. We're probably three ft up in the tree,

1057
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: and then he's like seven or eight foot below the

1058
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: base of the tree, so way down there. And um,

1059
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: I get to the point where I'm in such pain

1060
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: and discomfort because of the angle I'm at that I'm like,

1061
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to to draw and try to shoot

1062
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: this deer. And about the time I decided to do that,

1063
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: my grunt call falls out of my pocket hits the

1064
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: ground right at the base of the tree. And the deer,

1065
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: I think he might have even seen us possibly up

1066
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: there in the tree, like knew that there was two

1067
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: big shapes of them. And when the grunt call falls,

1068
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: he looks down at the base of the tree, doesn't spook,

1069
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: doesn't panic, just looks down at the base of tree,

1070
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: and I'm a and he and I just draw my

1071
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: bow and he doesn't even pick up on it. And

1072
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: the rest of the story you just have to see

1073
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: on the video. That's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah,

1074
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: what happens after that's cool too, but pretty awesome. So

1075
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: barely got her done in Illinois? Oh man, Like we

1076
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: were leaving the next morning early and I shot that

1077
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: buck that evening. Take away, Um, don't um infatuate yourself

1078
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: with one particular property. Uh, And by no means that

1079
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: do you mean any disrespect to anyone who helped us

1080
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: with any permission or anything in that. But we thought

1081
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: that that was gonna be like our chance I had

1082
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: booone and Crockett dear in this lifetime, and it just

1083
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't that. And so like, man, maybe within that

1084
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: manage expectations. Yeah, I think, uh, my takeaway is don't

1085
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: it's similar, But don't um, don't uh think that your

1086
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: property is so good that you can just get away,

1087
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: especially in late October with fringe hunting. I mean, my

1088
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: best hunt was when I hopped thick into the swamp.

1089
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: We took hip waiters and I, you know, have a

1090
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: camera guy with me. We only have one pair of

1091
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: hip waiters and they have to be a size fourt

1092
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: team because if they don't fit me, then I can't

1093
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: use them. Right, so I fit everybody else might be

1094
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: a little loose. Well, So we had to cross the

1095
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: canal that almost went over the hip waiters and then

1096
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: hook my pool rope to the hip waiters, toss them

1097
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: up in the air and let Eric pull them across

1098
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: the you know, so they didn't land in the in

1099
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: the water. Yeah, it was a big dealble. I mean,

1100
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: it was just point being hard access to get in

1101
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: there and had a good hunt. And I should have

1102
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: been hunting in that thick stuff the whole time, but

1103
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, no pressure on this farm, I

1104
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: should be able to get away with it. That's my takeaway.

1105
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Where too, next Kansas for first and November. And this

1106
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: is a place you knew, Yeah, I've I've hunted uh

1107
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: Kansas for twenty years now. Um in this particular place,

1108
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: um is um at lease that my dad um has

1109
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: had for twelve years. I think, really cool place. He

1110
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: he manages, Uh, they kind of manage it in a

1111
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: way that they really want to shoot five plus year olds. Um,

1112
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: and they just wanna They just mean they want. My

1113
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: dad wants us to just be happy and shoot deer whoever.

1114
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: But like his goal is to shoot you know, I

1115
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: think it's a it's just a kind of a it's

1116
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: a it's something that he doesn't necessary, so I expect

1117
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: to happen. But he wants to shoot a two hundred,

1118
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And we've never seen one

1119
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: on the property. But anyway, Um, I had a I

1120
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: had a very short hunt there and then you know,

1121
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, we we kind of had to

1122
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: wait several days, um for k C kind of working

1123
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: a little bit. He doesn't a case. He is not

1124
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: on the lease and so um he has to kind

1125
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: of scratch out on public and any permission we can

1126
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: get that kind of thing. But yeah, I mean first

1127
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: first afternoon, I'm sitting there like playing solitaire, looking at

1128
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: my Bible apps some you know, and just like um

1129
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: doing a little reading, and all of a sudden, Um,

1130
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Eric's like he's like not a shooter. It was like

1131
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: a hundred year is a nice year, you know and uh,

1132
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: but he knew right about it was a shooter because

1133
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: he's been there with me before. And um, the deer

1134
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: comes in works as scrape goes by me, and um,

1135
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: I got a big huge cottonwood on my blind on

1136
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: my right side here that's like blinding me from anything

1137
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: coming up the draw from the other direction, and that

1138
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: deer goes out. They're like thirties fixing and go into

1139
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: my blind spot in the tree trunk and all of

1140
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, I see another deer walk out of like

1141
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: fifteen and it's it's a toad. I know which one

1142
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: it is immediately because I hunted him last year. Um,

1143
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: but just old deer. He's got you. It's a main

1144
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: frame ten with super heavy kind of tiracked with with

1145
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: some junk and uh, I mean easy shot, like kind

1146
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: of like South Dakota. Um, but yeah, I pretty much

1147
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: watched him fall. And what was he doing there? Like

1148
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: what was the set up he was? Um? He So

1149
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm hunting a draw and um, basically the draw leads

1150
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: up to an egg food source like probably a mile

1151
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: or more away, about a mile away probably, um, which

1152
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: is wheat winter wheat, and this is just this is

1153
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: the most remote part of the of the place, that

1154
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: particular property. Uh, nobody ever goes there, I mean, and

1155
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even hunt this place most years,

1156
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: like the entire pretty because if there's not a five

1157
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: year old for me to shoot, then I'm just going

1158
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: to public with Casey and we're chasing. I'll shoot a

1159
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: one thirty every day in my life right now, you know,

1160
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: So I'm cool with that. Um, and we'll go chase

1161
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: deer doing that. But um, this year, I hadn't hadn't

1162
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: any cameras runn or anything, but I knew there was

1163
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: some good deal there last year and chased him for

1164
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: a little bit and yeah, he's Uh. I started looking

1165
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: back at footage from seen and I'm pretty sure that

1166
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm very like, I'm pretty sure that this deer is

1167
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: a deer that I video in sixteen as a three

1168
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: year old, so I think that makes him nine. Yeah,

1169
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: very old, had a broken broken time already. He was

1170
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: just cruising, you know, just kind of not super fied.

1171
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: It was warm, but he was cruising for sure. Was

1172
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: fat and healthy, like yeah, I mean huge chest but

1173
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest everything. So yeah, and then um pretty

1174
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: much became the camp cook me and Eric did for

1175
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: the next several days. But sneeze, that's why Casey, you

1176
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: were scratching out on the other stuff. I'll look information

1177
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: kind of bouncing around on that. And I had some

1178
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: okay hunts. Actually, Uh chase the deer that I had

1179
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: history with. UM. Who knows how old he is, but

1180
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: I saw him last year, big buck, giant frame. Um.

1181
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: He was actually a little smaller this year. I think

1182
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: probably related to the drought year. We also saw a

1183
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: lot of broken times across the country this year. I

1184
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: think the drought might have something to do with that.

1185
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: I noticed my buck when I got the antlers back

1186
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: because we I'm gonna shoulder madam. Um like the rack

1187
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: was super light, almost like it's and he had some

1188
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: broken times on November one. I just wonder if they

1189
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: don't grow as dance on drought years or something. Sometimes

1190
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a thing or not. Just

1191
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, somebody, I'll message you and let you know.

1192
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: So Um, I uh had a failed stock on that

1193
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: deer and then UM kind of had pretty tough ones

1194
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: after that. And it was kind of in we do

1195
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: this thing where like, uh, you're like day four of

1196
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: a hunt and you're just in despair and belly aching.

1197
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: That's kind of wallow on the floor sometimes. Um, you

1198
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: know it makes that can happen. I know, and I'm

1199
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: just in that mode. He doesn't do it very often.

1200
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: He's a super super up knows whenever I am doing that.

1201
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: It was Prema Donna, that for sure it was. It

1202
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: was bad. Well, it's just between pressure and uh, you know,

1203
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: limited public ground ground like you just hopeless. Yeah, if

1204
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: you got a spot or two that work, and then

1205
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: the way they don't work on the wind for the

1206
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: next few days, you're like, I don't have word to hunt. Uh.

1207
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: So Uh we actually hit the phones and started, uh

1208
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: call him people and uh found a piece of permission.

1209
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: Uh that was like awesome, like mill of nowhere. A

1210
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: guy gives us to go ahead. We drive out to

1211
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: this place. It looks great. Random cold call. You had

1212
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: no end. I think you might actually call anybody. I

1213
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: don't think I did. You know, I didn't talk to

1214
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: anybody I called. I called a bunch of numbers, but

1215
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: I never got through to anybody. You got through to

1216
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: I think two people maybe Greg called him. Honest, I'll

1217
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: go I'll go to recent so i'll get on the app,

1218
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: I'll show you. But Tyler's call, for sure, I might

1219
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: have said we Tyler's call is the one that paid off.

1220
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: It was a guy that I hadn't talked to several

1221
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: years before, so I just he didn't remember me. But

1222
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: right off the bat, I tried like to show him

1223
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: I knew I had talked to him. I wrote down

1224
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: his dad's name in his phone name. And that's how

1225
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: I do it. Is like if I talked to somebody,

1226
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: I try to take notes right after and keep it

1227
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: in the contact him. So yeah, so it was kind

1228
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: of like, oh, yeah, I kinda remember you, you know, Yeah,

1229
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: I got this place out there. I don't know if

1230
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: there's any dear out there, which is always good to hear. Actually,

1231
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: and so we go out. It looks pretty good. We're

1232
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna scout it. Uh really just familiar eyes of show

1233
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: with the place. Um. We hung a camera and then

1234
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: actually saw deer, a nice buck on the south boundary

1235
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: of the property, and the wind didn't set up to

1236
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: go after him. We were glassing from a long way away,

1237
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: and uh, we're just like, okay, tomorrow morning, that's we're

1238
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna go over there. Um, because we had already decided

1239
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: because I was kind of holding Tyler back and I

1240
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: didn't want because he already feels his tag, you know.

1241
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, I wanna put this limitation

1242
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: on myself. I'll be done and I can come back

1243
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: later in the month if I need to or whatever,

1244
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: and we'll keep on keeping on. Um. Well, while we're

1245
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: hanging this trail camera, I get the rumble from down

1246
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: Under while we're out there. And from then on, about

1247
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: three fifteen until about one thirty am, I'm I'm sick

1248
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: out both and like atrociously uh about as bad as

1249
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: I felt um, And I was like, man, why does

1250
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: this have to happen on November five? You know, like

1251
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: just it was bad, but about one thirty held it

1252
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: together enough to get some sleep. Woke up at five

1253
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: thirty the next morning and said, you know what, you

1254
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: only get so many Novembers in your life. I'm going hunting.

1255
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: And I was slow. I was for sure he was

1256
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: not In the next morning and I was in the

1257
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: I was on the couch. I think sleep, yeah, and

1258
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: and like I hear Casey just talking normal in the

1259
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: morning and there in the kitchen, and I'm like what

1260
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: is going on? I could not believe he was okay.

1261
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,959
Speaker 1: I probably wasn't actually, but because I still actually I

1262
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: held it together enough to go hunt, and then still

1263
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: for the next few days kind of had some belly problems.

1264
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: But um, I got off that morning, went and hunted.

1265
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: It was almost observation sip. I got there late, which, um,

1266
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm not the fastest in the morning. Anyways, A paired

1267
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: that with an extreme sickness, and I think we're inting

1268
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: the gate in shooting lit you know. Um so Uh.

1269
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: We made it down to kind of a place to

1270
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: observe from at about sunrise and within twenty it's heavy,

1271
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: heavy for us. Great morning, you know, can't miss this morning.

1272
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: It's the coldest day in five days. Uh and uh.

1273
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: About twenty minutes into the hunt, I glass up a

1274
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: buck walking a fence line at about three fifty yards

1275
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: and putting binos on it, like, oh yeah, that's a shooter.

1276
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, it's pretty open between here and there.

1277
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: I can't make a move on. Hi, Let's see if

1278
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: we can get me to come over here. So I

1279
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: get out, rattle aandlers, and I just bang those things

1280
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: together as hard as I can whips his head up,

1281
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: thinks about it for a little bit, doesn't win. Eight

1282
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: and A crosses the fence and uh, it's like, okay,

1283
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: we're doing this. So I bail off down the hill

1284
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: because this deer is gonna pick us off at like

1285
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty yards because he's gonna be able to

1286
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: see us whenever he goes through this bottom and comes

1287
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: up on the on the ledge. Uh. So I get

1288
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: down behind that little rise that way. Uh, you know,

1289
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 1: whenever he feels like he can clear to see, he'll

1290
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: be in range. And uh. Um, we run down the hill,

1291
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: get set up. I have the son in our back,

1292
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: which is a really great thing for that situation. The

1293
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: wind is good, this year is pretty fired up just

1294
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: coming in on a string. He's probably one of the

1295
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: top dogs in the area. I think that's why he

1296
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: was just like I'm gonna go see what the heck

1297
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: is going on over there. Uh. And then I see

1298
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: antlers and I can just see giant brow. Times. I

1299
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: didn't realize how big this deer was. Um, this deer

1300
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: is like super wide and tall brow times I'm freaking

1301
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: out of course, which I hold it together like um,

1302
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: like in an observed way, I look really calm, cool

1303
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: and collected at anytime there's a deer round. But um,

1304
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: inside I was like, oh my goodness, in Greg's behind me.

1305
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing. He's probably we have

1306
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: this thing called the Greg Eys where so if you

1307
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 1: know Greg, you love Greg. But Greg is a very

1308
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: even killed guy. But when he sees a deer, his

1309
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: eyes go there so huge. I can only imagine what

1310
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: they were. This dear cleared the cleared the brush and

1311
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: uh yeah, routed that deer for like three fifty and

1312
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: shotty maybe watched him, watched him fall out. There ends

1313
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: up being the biggest buck in my life, all because

1314
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: Tyler Jones got me a permission on this property. So

1315
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: that's a pretty epic trip right there. It was takeaway,

1316
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: major takeaway for you guess um uh I think for me,

1317
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: just don't uh don't ever under underestimate the power of

1318
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: a remote spot. And it doesn't even have to be

1319
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: like middle and nowhere X State, But as much as

1320
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: like a you know, a couple hundred acres that nobody

1321
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: ever goes to for whatever reason, you know there's no

1322
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: good access for humans there or whatever. I think that

1323
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: people undervalue days that aren't prim rut dates, but at

1324
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: the same time you cannot replace the rut. It is

1325
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: just awesome, you know. And I don't want to say

1326
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: the first seven days in November or what because sometimes

1327
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: that kind of changes or whether kind of hasn't effect

1328
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: on things or whatever. But just rut action in general

1329
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: is the baddest thing there is, dude. It is so cool.

1330
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: Well into something you said, like, you only get so

1331
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: many notes. Ever, you only get so many November days

1332
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. So you're sick, You're like, oh man, you

1333
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: know what you can't if there's any way I can

1334
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 1: do it, you can't miss It's right. That's a great point,

1335
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: even when the weather is not perfect, even when things

1336
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: aren't just right, even when you're sick something if nothing else,

1337
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: Like that was my song out there. It's like I'm

1338
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: sick and I can't go hanging a tree because I

1339
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: might have to get down. Uh, just sit there and

1340
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: see something. If nothing else, you know, learn something, do

1341
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: what you can. Ye. So, in the interest of time,

1342
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: and we gotta get a hunting here pretty soon, let's

1343
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: just cover the next two states. What was your big

1344
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: takeaway from that? What was the next day. First off, Oklahoma, Oklahoma.

1345
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: Big lesson learned, Oklahoma, Um, did you kill one? I

1346
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: killed one? Yeah you did, Tyler and I should have

1347
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: man came close. So big lesson learned here. Big lesson

1348
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: for me is, um, uh, good spots are good spots,

1349
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: which is very contradictory to some things I've said earlier

1350
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: on this podcast. But the ruts different, like we talked about.

1351
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: So you had like a slow period and you trusted

1352
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 1: the good spot. Is that what happened pretty much? Yeah? Uh?

1353
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 1: Or I had a control camera at this place, um,

1354
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: and I hadn't had great data on that camera, had

1355
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: seen some bucks, a little bit of daytime, not much,

1356
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: but I just knew it was good and I hunted

1357
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: around that area. This was the first morning I hunted

1358
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: this spot, those particular treat and went in there and

1359
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: shot to do the first fifteen minutes. We're in the

1360
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: tree that morning. Yeah, just because I knew from previous

1361
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: experiences that spots worth on. So don't let your slow

1362
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: trail cameras get you too up in the month of November.

1363
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: Let me get the cave yacht. Uh mine. I just

1364
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: would probably reiterate the the same sentiment I had in

1365
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: Kansas that, Um, I didn't really trust this remote spot

1366
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: that I picked. UM, and I ended up having a

1367
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: almost killed a really good deer, like a really nice

1368
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: a point not you know, nothing huge score, but nice

1369
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: buck almost killed him from the ground with a like

1370
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: a two dimensional decoy. And um. And then I think

1371
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: the next morning or evening I went in there, didn't

1372
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: see anything at all, And over the course of that

1373
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: trip and the next trip, I ended up kind of

1374
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: retrusting the spot and I left there, but I retrusted

1375
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: it later on and it was awesome And I should

1376
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: have just stayed in there more than I did because

1377
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: it was super remote, and there's when people around Arkansas

1378
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: was next. That's correct, Yeah, I think let's see yeah, yes, yeah,

1379
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: it sounds like Arkansas was a doozy. Yeah. Well what

1380
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 1: company keep has a big effect on how trips Clay

1381
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: was there with us and Arkans saw so it UM

1382
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: my my takeaway there, um probably like UM I would

1383
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: say that. Um. We so we were we have some

1384
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: different contacts in the area. A guy we stayed with

1385
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: that gave us some good information, and then a guy

1386
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: that we know that gave us good information as well. Um.

1387
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's everybody's you actually encountered this probably in

1388
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: the deer country stuff a lot. But everybody's got their

1389
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: own style of hunting to an extent, right, A lot

1390
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,839
Speaker 1: of people have these different styles and it works for them.

1391
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: But like if you've never done what Tony Treach does,

1392
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: you're a struggle to do that the first several years

1393
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: probably um, but Tony can literally break it down on

1394
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: a if this then that in every scenario, all the

1395
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: way through an entire stock. So for for me, like

1396
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: you know, I think that those guys as we're giving

1397
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: good information, but there's nothing that replaced me walking around

1398
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: in the landscape and observing what I was seeing and

1399
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: making you know, references to things I've experienced in the

1400
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: deer woods throughout my life and trying to put it

1401
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: all together. Because I did end up later in the trip,

1402
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: I killed the deer, killed the dough um and dough boat.

1403
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: I really gonnaen counter two bucks and actually ended up

1404
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: misjudging one um arranged a tree that was the only

1405
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: tree I could get a bounce off of. It was

1406
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: like sixteen yards from him. I thought it was ten

1407
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: and I thought he might jump strings, So better safe

1408
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: to shoot low than um, you know, have him jump

1409
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: and hit high. So I missed him blow. But yeah,

1410
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: that's my Takeaway's kind of just like, um, if you

1411
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: have hunted quite a bit, then definitely trust what you're seeing,

1412
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: trust your eyes. I guess yea I would. I would

1413
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 1: uh agree with everything Tyler said. And since I didn't

1414
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 1: have us dell or hunt as far as deer encounters

1415
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: go on that trip, I would say to give it

1416
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: a more novel approach. Don't let hunting success dictate your

1417
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: enjoyment of a hunt, because truthfully, this Arizona, I mean Arkansas,

1418
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: Arkansas hunt um was one of my favorite hunts of

1419
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: the season, and I uh Tyler and I were together

1420
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 1: for one hunt and saw some bucks, but by myself

1421
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: from a tree or the ground. I did not see

1422
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: a antler critter um the whole trip. And we gave

1423
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 1: ourselves some time on the trip but had an absolute blast.

1424
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. Yeah, so um yeah, so yeah,

1425
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: let's take away from Arkansas, Texas will say for another day, right,

1426
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,959
Speaker 1: hopefully there's a happy ending here soon. It's been some excitement,

1427
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: also food, some fun. It's very good food, good fun.

1428
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: Maybe too much food or one night. Sorry Mark, Uh.

1429
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: Since this is your podcast and we like to pi

1430
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: rate that thing, Um, I would like for you to

1431
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 1: tell us your big takeaway from the twenty twenty two seasons,

1432
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: since that's the theme of this thing. Great, great, great question.

1433
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway is getting back to my number one

1434
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: goal for this year, which is just getting back to

1435
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: the fun of it. And like I talked about all

1436
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: year leading up to this hunting season, like I'm gonna

1437
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,480
Speaker 1: push the expectations aside. I'm gonna push like all the

1438
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: stress that I'm worried about doing this thing or that thing,

1439
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: or achieving this or being like this person or anything.

1440
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: I just says, forget all that, and I'm just gonna

1441
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: do what got me into hunting again, like make choices,

1442
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: because that would be the fun thing to do, not

1443
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: dumb hunting decisions. Um. Make time for the things that

1444
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: really matter, Make time to hunt with my dad, to

1445
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,520
Speaker 1: do stuff with my son, to do things like that again. Um,

1446
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: and stop caring whatever everybody else thinks. And I think

1447
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: as a product of that, I had more fun and

1448
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: I had more success. I mean, I had like a

1449
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: season that'll go down in the history books as far

1450
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: as I mean, it was good, like as far as deer,

1451
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: but just like so many great memories, so many things

1452
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: I got to do. I got to take my son

1453
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: out like eight times this season. I got to do

1454
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,839
Speaker 1: all these cool things and had like just incredible memories

1455
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: with my family, my dad, friends, kids, um, and great

1456
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: hunting to boot. I chose locations that I want to

1457
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: go hunt not because it's where I had the best

1458
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: chance to kill boon and cracker buck. But I chose

1459
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: to go places because like I just love the area

1460
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: or I know it would be a fun spot. Um.

1461
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: I planned my calendar not around like the absolute best

1462
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: way to kill six huge giant deer, But how do

1463
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: we make sure I can go to the family deer

1464
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: camp this year? How do I make sure that I'm

1465
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: around for certain key times when my son could go

1466
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: with me and do these different things. Um. I broke

1467
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: like a rule where I said I wasn't going to

1468
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: hunt for two different bucks in the same general area.

1469
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: But after I killed an opening night buck, I got

1470
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: to think of, you know, I really want to hunt

1471
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: this other deer again. This would be fun. And you

1472
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: know what, you don't know how many more hunting seasons

1473
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: you have left in life, go after it, and I

1474
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun. Um. So that's my big

1475
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: takeaway this year. It's good man. Um, still a few

1476
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: more bucks to shoot though, there's still some time. You're

1477
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: gonna get two more. Yes, that's exactly right. That would

1478
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: be an all time or if that actually happens. But

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: you can make a plug before we get out of here,

1480
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: please do um. If you are a Wired Hunt fan

1481
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast and you have not watched one

1482
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: of Mark's very first please go back right now, the

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01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: furthest episodes back of the Hunt. Yeah, the early podcasts

1484
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: are rough. Gosh, dude, you're just a cute little kid. Man.

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01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: Well though you are a cute kid with a mustache. Well,

1486
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: thank you, guys. I appreciate you taking some time here midday.

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01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: I know everyone's pet place to be. Thanks for coming

1488
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: to Texas. Man. This is a lot of fun and

1489
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm really glad we get to hang out and do

1490
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: the same thing too. It's it's been so yeah, I mean,

1491
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: it's been great to get to spend time with you guys.

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01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: Has been great to get to see what the Texas

1493
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: things all about. It's wild down here. Well, have further

1494
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: conversations on that. Um, but I'm tore up with prickers

1495
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: and cactus spines and all sorts of stuff all over me.

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01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: But I'm really glad, I'm really glad ever here. So

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01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: let's try to let's try to send this thing out

1498
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: with a one last let's go all right, Well that

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Speaker 1: out of the way. Thank you all for listening, appreciate

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: you being here, and until next time, make sure you

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: check out all the stuff from the Element. Make sure

1502
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: you stay tuned next year on the media to YouTube

1503
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: channel for the Buck Truck. And until next time, stay

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Speaker 1: you boys. Say it Hunt