1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm Tamika D. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 2: Mallory and this. 3 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 3: Shit Boy my son in general. 4 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: We are your host of TMI. 5 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 3: Tamika and my Son's Information, truth, motivation and. 6 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Inspiration, new energy. What's going on, my son, Lennon, I'm. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 4: Blessed black and Holly favored. Tamika, Ma, how you doing today? 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing okay. I'm a part of the Black women 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: who are resting. I'm not really restling because I've been 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: working and busy and doing and going and planning and being. 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Involved in stuff. 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: But I have not been forcing myself to think about 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: what's next and a rally, a march, a thing, a thing. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: I just haven't. I just am not forcing myself to 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: do that right now. I am a part of the 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: ninety two percent. I believe that Black women have the 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: instincts that God only himself could have placed in us 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: to be able to be the. 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Birth ers of this nation. 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: And I believe that our instinct in what we have 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: in us is something that other people, you know, benefit from. 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: And so since I'm in a ninety two percent, while 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: I feel sad about a lot of things that's happening, 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: I really feel proud. 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: I feel I'm in good company. 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: I feel like I don't have to put a cape 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: on and immediately return to the battlefield. 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: It's the holiday season, and. 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: I feel like we as black women, deserve an opportunity 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: to sit, exhale, breathe, taking one another's love and affection, 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: and just not have to go kill myself stressed out 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: of our work. 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: As you should enjoy yourself, you know, like you said 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: you part of in ninety two percent. I think unfortunately 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: for me, I just feel like there's a lot of 36 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: things things that black men are doing. 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: So I've been I've been just really organizing in my mind. 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: I han't physically went out and did a lot of things, 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 4: but I've been really just strategizing and organizing and pretty 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 4: much like I want to start, like pretty much right 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: after the holidays, just really implementing a lot of things 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: that I think are needed and necessary in this moment 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: for black men, especially black men, young black men, just 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: you know, the would I say, the the tide of 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: the world, just the energy of the world, just the feeling, 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: and I just feel like it's very much a time 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 4: to start strategizing and organizing young black men. 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the time has always been and I've 49 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: said to you many times that you know, as a woman, 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: I know that we are we are blessed, very blessed 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: to have the connections and the relationships among one another. 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: You know that. 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: Not to say that men and black men particularly don't 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: have relationships, but there's just something different about the ways 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: in which black women show up from one another. And 56 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: I think something. I think a part of our enslavement 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: and what has happened to us fostered certain things. So 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: you know, men African men right who were being forced 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: into enslavement and then of course going through chattel slavery. Certainly, 60 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: the idea that you are now you know, responsible for 61 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: your community and unable to protect your community at the 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: same time has to be something that has created a 63 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: psychological backlash. 64 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I think that backlash. 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: A part of the protection has been, you know, trying 66 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: to maintain position and and and feeling of power and 67 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: a feeling of you know, being able to protect because 68 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 2: that has been stripped in so many ways from you all, 69 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: in so many ways, and it continues beyond enslavement, beyond 70 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: all that that we went through. Then even now, you 71 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: still see that, and I know that it is important. 72 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: I think anyone whose lineage. 73 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: Includes enslavement, needs, a certain level of therapy, a certain 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: level of of of a community of coming together to 75 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: understand a lot of how we're still responding to life based. 76 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Upon you know, what we have been through. 77 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: You even in your song where you're talking about the 78 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: Willie Lynch letter, you acknowledge that people say the letter may. 79 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Not be real, but the effects of what what is. 80 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: In that letter, it's significant. It's significant, and I see 81 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: it every day. I see it in young black men 82 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: that I deal with, And I think that the most 83 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: important thing we can be doing for the next four years, 84 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: while being outside and protesting and bringing awareness and all 85 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: of that, is going to be incredibly important. I still 86 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: believe that one of the fundamental things that we have 87 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: to engage in is community building that is not public 88 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: for the world to see, right, Like, that's got to 89 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: be something that we do. 90 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: So I support you one hundred percent. 91 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: Yes, it's definitely time. 92 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: So that's what I've been, you know, just focusing on 93 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 4: and trying to get into, you know, and just trying 94 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: to stay abreast of what's going on, trying to take 95 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: it light, you know, because everything has been so heavy 96 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: and dark, and you know, so trying to have light conversations, 97 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: enjoy life, you know, listen to music, watch the internet. 98 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: It's a couple of things that I've been focusing on 99 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: that really has been bringing me joy. 100 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: Like I actually like casanat right. I've been watching him. 101 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 4: He's a young kid and he just enjoys life and 102 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: a lot of people go. He has all these stars 103 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: on his live stream and he's been doing like I 104 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: think he's doing like a thirty day live stream. 105 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: So he's the other day he had Snoop Dogg on there. 106 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: You know, he had Chris Brown on there, and everybody 107 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: is just enjoying hisself, like as a young kids, the 108 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: young in the twenties. They having fun, They talking about 109 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 4: good things and and I love that, like you know, 110 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: so that why he was. 111 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: On the shower in the shower the other day, because he's. 112 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 3: Straight. 113 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 4: They for thirty days straight, everything he does is going 114 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 4: to be on live stream, so hiss in the shower, 115 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: everything like all his So you can go and you 116 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: can click on his live stream right now and he's 117 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: on the live stream as we speak doing whatever. So 118 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: you know, I've really been enjoying that just watching him 119 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: be and he's and he's he's enjoying life. 120 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like I wouldn't do it. 121 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: It reminds me of like The Truman Show, kind of 122 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: if you ever seen the movie The Truman Show with 123 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: Jim Carrey, Like his thing reminds me of the Truman Show, 124 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: but his real life. It's actually his real life and 125 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: the Truman Show, Truman was the only person that didn't 126 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: know that he was on TV. They raised him from 127 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: a little kid inside the TV. 128 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: I think I remember that built. 129 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: The whole life around him. Yeah, they built the whole. 130 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm not as old as you. 131 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: But they built his whole life inside this TV. 132 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: So but when I'm watching this, it's very entertaining, and 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: but there was one thing in it that kind of 134 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 4: that made me that resonated with me because you watched 135 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: him in all this moments. 136 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: So he's in the store and this is just probably today. 137 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: He's in the store, he's buying shoes and it's about 138 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: one hundred pairs of sneakers on the counter. So he 139 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: walks by and he's looking. He's like, well, who put 140 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: all of this stuff? Like, I ain't put all this 141 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: stuff in. So the lady's like, well, people just putting 142 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: stuff up. So he's with his friends or whatever, so 143 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: he's like, yo, just ask, he said, I don't mind 144 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: paying for it, but just ask. Like he ain't saying 145 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: it till he's just saying it to. 146 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: The chat as they listening. Just ask. 147 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: He said, I would never do nothing like that. I 148 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: just wouldn't go. I would ask it. And it resonates 149 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: because when you get to a certain level, or just 150 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: when people think you at a certain level, there's a 151 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: level of entitlement, right think, yo, yo, you got it, Yo, 152 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: you should do it. And it's not that I shouldn't 153 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: do it or I wouldn't do it, but I wanted 154 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: to feel like you don't you you're not taking advantage 155 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 4: of me. 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: And he said, he said, these little things, this is 157 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: how people go broke and be little stuff like that. 158 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: And it shows that he's a sharp young man. 159 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's like this how people 160 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: go broke and be little things like this, and you 161 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: ain't saying nothing about it. Next thing, you know, there's 162 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 4: one hundred thousand going. People just start taking for granted 163 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: that they don't have to ask you for things, and 164 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,119 Speaker 4: they just could take things from me, and it just 165 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: it and it's the mind state. We live in an 166 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: entitlement era, like people feel entitled to things, like I 167 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: have conversations with people and I see so many different things. 168 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: People don't even say thank you no more like you know, family, friends, whatever. 169 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: You do things for people, and it's not that you 170 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: want them to feel like they debt, but you just 171 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 4: want somebody to say thank you, because that's what you 172 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: would do. I would do say thank you about that 173 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 4: you did something for me. I want you to feel 174 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: like I acknowledge and I understand that you don't have 175 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: to do something for me, you know, and we're just 176 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: in such a time. So it was it resonated with 177 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: me because I see it happen. I've experienced it, I've 178 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: gone through it a lot. But it resonated to see 179 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: a young boy just understanding that he's in his twenties 180 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: and he understood, like just ask me. He just like, well, 181 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: we got it. We just gonna do this because he 182 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: understands paying attention. He's a student of life. He sees 183 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: with how people have failed, to see how people have won. 184 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: You know, the fact that he brings a lot of 185 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: different artists and people who have made it on his show, 186 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: they've probably given him advice and he's taking it. So yeah, 187 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: it just it just resonated with me because so much 188 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 4: negativity on the internet. There's so many people just pumping crap. 189 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: Just to see some young boy having fun and who's 190 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: in tune. It's smart and actually understands life. 191 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 5: You know. 192 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: It's just it's a breath of fresh air, you know what. 193 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: I like Constantat. I met his sister and his mother, 194 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: and he comes from good stock. He comes from a 195 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: good family, at least from what I saw them. They 196 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: look beautiful people. His sister is very funny and very kind. 197 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: His mother was really kind, and I, you know, I 198 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: think he's a good kid. I do think that when 199 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: you put so much of your personal business in the world, 200 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 2: people will think that they can take advantage of you 201 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: because they know too much about what you have. And 202 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: that's just the nature of human beings. And sometimes people 203 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: don't even know how to ask because they haven't been 204 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: They no home training, home trained. It goes very much 205 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: to what we were talking about originally, this idea that 206 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: you know, we all and this is not a black 207 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: man or whatever thing. This is all people home training 208 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: is very important. When I was raised, you couldn't ask 209 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: nobody for a thing. If I came home with something 210 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: that somebody gave me, my parents would lose it. You're 211 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: not allowed to have nothing. You're not allowed to have anything. 212 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: Where did you get that from? 213 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Who gave it to you? Why they give you? Go back? 214 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 6: Take it? 215 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: Well, so and so mother said I could have it. 216 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: I this mother. Your mother said, you can't have it. 217 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: Take it back. 218 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: Not a shirt, not a shoe. They can't buy you nothing. 219 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: I mean really, And it's funny because I'm the complete opposite. 220 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm always giving and doing and whatever. 221 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: Perhaps some of it has to do with that, But 222 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: I tell you one thing, I do not have expectations 223 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: that anybody's gonna give me anything. But that brings me 224 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: to my thought of the day today. My thought of 225 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: the day today is really kind of like a question. 226 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if people have decided to throw their hands 227 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: up as it relates to police violence, and they just 228 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: over it like that's it, you know, we just it 229 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: is what it is. We've accepted that the police can 230 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: kill us and then probably probably probably will be not 231 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: much to come of it. We can be abused in 232 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 2: our communities, pulled over, profiled, in some cases, sexually assaulted. 233 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: We know what we're dealing with in Kansas City, Kansas, 234 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: but its officer will sexually assaulting women for years, for 235 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: thirty years, and nobody's gonna do anything about it. And 236 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: so therefore we have sort of decided to relinquish our 237 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: fight and our efforts in that area and just move 238 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: on to financial matters. And maybe there are people who 239 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: really truly believe, which I do believe in some ways, 240 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: that the more economic development and economic growth that we 241 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: have in our communities, then we will have less of 242 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: a need for law enforcement. 243 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: But what I always go back to is how we have. 244 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Watched communities be extremely economically sound, especially black communities like 245 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: Rosewood and Jacksonville, Florida, or Tulsa, Oklahoma, where the fact 246 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: that we would even get together and try to have 247 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 2: our own economic engines that pisces them off to and 248 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: they find a way to physically buy fire blow it up, 249 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: not blow it up as in set the leaders up 250 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: and whatever. I'm talking no conspiracy there. We're talking about physical. 251 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Fire is burning. 252 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: And I'm wondering the reason why I'm asking this question 253 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: around have people just decided police violence, that's one we 254 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: can't win. 255 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: We moving on from it is. 256 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: Because I'm not sure how you have or how you 257 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: as a black man, especially but black people in general, 258 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: some of them are so excited about Trump and his presidents, 259 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: knowing that this is a man who does not believe 260 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: at all that policing should have controls that hold people, 261 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: hold people accountable for harming black and brown folks. We 262 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: know that because he said it so many times. I'm 263 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: not debating it with anybody. 264 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: We know. We said that. We lived through administration where 265 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: he showed it. 266 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Right, so we know it. So that's that right. And 267 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm not asking this question to focus so much in 268 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: on Trump, but I'm just thinking about the whole pie. 269 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: Because here last week the police went into a man's house, 270 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: Brandon Durham, our brother, Lee Merritt, the attorney is the 271 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: attorney for the family. And then you have ministers Stretch 272 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: from Las Vegas, who is our guy who is there 273 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: working to mobilize the local community. And even he said 274 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: getting people really active and engage and you know, make 275 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: getting people to show up. 276 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: It's not as easy as not even as easy. 277 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: People are not as enthusiastic about being out there to 278 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: push back against the system. Then you have folks that 279 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: we're going to have on the show later on who 280 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: are dealing with trying to force the City of Louisville 281 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: to sign a consent degree with this particular administration, this 282 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Department of Justice to deal with a list of things 283 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: that the Department of Justice found when they investigated the 284 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: police department for all types of abuse against of power, right, 285 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: And so you got that happening in one hand, and 286 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: then on the other hand, it seems that there are 287 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: people who are like, don't worry about it, or I 288 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: don't know what they feel, and maybe I don't have 289 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: the answer. So I'm hoping that in the comments section 290 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna get some answers from folks on where do 291 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: they stand with that? Because Brandon Durham, which I was 292 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: about to say, in Las Vegas, calls the police because 293 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: there's an intruder in his home while he and his 294 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: fifteen year old daughter in the house, and they tell 295 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: them the description of the person who's in the house. 296 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: When the police officer came, he being the man in 297 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: the house. The man who the house belongs to, is 298 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: fighting off a woman who is in the clothes with 299 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: the description that has been reported. He is in the 300 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: clothes or she is she was in a red outfit, 301 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: which is what was reported on the call when police 302 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: help was asked, was requested. 303 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: When the police got. 304 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: There, they shot him the man who house it is. 305 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: They killed Brandon Durham instead of a woman. So, you know, 306 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: like I said, I really want people to just tell 307 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: me have they decided that police violence? Because here's my 308 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: real question because I know that the Trump supporters and 309 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: the black people who tell us that we out of 310 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: our mind. You know, we just doing boogieyman, those people. 311 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: I want to know what the brand and Durham because 312 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: that's what they're gonna do. They always come as well, 313 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: Breonna Taylor was with a guy and he was this 314 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: he was a drug dealer. And then George Floyd, he 315 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: just had something. I don't know if fake twenty whatever nonsense. 316 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: Things they come up. They have an excuse for every 317 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: single situation. So what are they going to say about 318 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: Brandon Durham. 319 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: What did he do? 320 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: He was in his house and he reported the person 321 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: who was in there and gave a description of what 322 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: the person was wearing, and the police came there and 323 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: shot him to death. Now the Trump presidency, his position is, 324 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: which we know that Copston have full immunity from prosecution. 325 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: Mistakes happened, issues happen while they're out there working, but 326 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: they should be able to do their jobs and they 327 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: should not have to worry about people like you and. 328 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: Me making a finger it. 329 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: So I'm just, I just, I really want people to 330 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: let me know where we at. 331 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: I believe that, you know, after the George Floyd era, 332 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: the powers that be worked very hard to get people 333 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 4: to not recognize any black issues. You know, they made 334 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: Black Lives matter a curse word. They made d a 335 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: curse word. You know, they may all everything that had 336 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: to woke is a curse word. You know, all the 337 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: things that had the whole world paying attention to the 338 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: injustices that black people were dealing with, the people that said, wow, 339 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: these black people really deal on all of those things 340 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 4: that led to that that the slogans and everything that 341 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: was attached to that has now, oh in less than 342 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: two three years, has turned into curse towards right. 343 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: So this was very intentional. 344 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: It's very active, you know, and they're not going to 345 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: allow black people to continue to. 346 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: You know, they're not gonna allow black. 347 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: People to continue to be able to evolve and to 348 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: grow and get justice and equity in America. So this 349 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: is very intentional. You know, they keep drilling the same 350 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: things in your head. You have black people who try 351 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: to tell you, you know that di is a bad thing, 352 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: and being woke is a bad thing, and black lives matters. Well, 353 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: don't say, nobody want to hear that black lives matter? 354 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: And why do black people need to do this? And 355 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: why does somebody have to have black people? So, because 356 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: you don't need nobody culturally competent to understand what's going 357 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: on with black people issues. We don't need an administration 358 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 4: that includes us. We don't need a world that includes 359 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 4: us and sees the value in the black people, especially 360 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 4: when you have to deal with the issues that black 361 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 4: people do. So when we're talking about black people getting killed, 362 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: police killing us, they they have none thus to it. 363 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: They made it seem like that's not a big thing. Though, No, 364 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: no white kids about that, y'all just victim you know 365 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: what you are, We have victimhood because we should just 366 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 4: be okay with be a shot. We should be no really, 367 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: because this is what people tell you what you talk about, Hey, 368 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: policia have no just victimhood. Nobody want to hear that, 369 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: and they quickly dismiss it. And they've got some of 370 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: us to actually buy into that. So what I'm saying 371 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: is I'm not surprised, but you know, I'm also understanding 372 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: that that's that's why we are here. 373 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that's why we're here. 374 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: This is. 375 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: Because when I sit there and I listen to it, 376 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: my soul is not okay with that. No matter how 377 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: many people I can sit in room with one million 378 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: people try to tell me just forget about it and 379 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 4: it's not that serious, and my soul is not okay 380 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: with that because I understand so understand what it is 381 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: that I was called here to do is to fight 382 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 4: for my people, doing regard even despite of my people. 383 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: I'm a fight for my people. So that's the reality 384 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: we're dealing with. You know, unfortunately that we don't see 385 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: the people that care, but we know that people are 386 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 4: kid because they are people that hit us and tell 387 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 4: us every day, you know, please keep fighting. Don't let 388 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 4: these people stop you from fighting. But sometimes you get 389 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: you get weary, you be like, man, what the fuck 390 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 4: am I fighting, and I realized I say that all 391 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: the time. That's what happened to a lot of our leaders, 392 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: that your quote unquote quote sellouts because. 393 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: People have told you directly that I wouldn't be with you, 394 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: but I can't do it anymore. 395 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 4: I can't do it anymore, you know, And that's what happens. 396 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: So you know, it is it is a It is 397 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: a hard fight. It is not one when we look 398 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: at even doctor King. We celebrate Doctor King now, but 399 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 4: the same people celebrate them now call them names. They 400 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 4: called them coon, they called them sellout. Malcolm Max was 401 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 4: public enemy, not like these these are real things. So 402 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 4: when you look at the reality, the same people that 403 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 4: we celebrate that fought for us had their own people 404 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: turned against them because it was times just like this. 405 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 4: So you know, we have to understand the moment were in. 406 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: There are going to be people that just act like 407 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: what we're talking about. It don't even matter all. They're 408 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: gonna keep talking about bread and eggs. They're gonna tell 409 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: you about bread and eggs, and they don't care that 410 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: JoJo's gonna get shot by the police, you know, because 411 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 4: bread and eggs, because somebody told them that bread costs 412 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: more eggs. 413 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: Courts more No, no, So someone didn't tell them that. 414 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying bread and eggs, but that shit 415 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: ain't That's not the major thing bread and eggs, because 416 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: you gotta be alive to eat bread and eggs. And 417 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 4: for me, I'm just everybody own issue. Like for me, 418 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: I'd rather pay more for bread and eggs and make 419 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: sure that that my family is safe, that there are 420 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: laws in place, then we go. If I gotta work 421 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 4: a little harder for some bread and eggs, so I 422 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 4: don't put them. So I don't put people that are 423 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: intentionally trying to roll back my civil rights and take 424 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: away the rights that God gave me in position. It's 425 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: it's like this ship is the This is the classic 426 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 4: trick of every white supremacy administration and white supremacy government. 427 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 4: They do the same shit. They make you focus on 428 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: the ship that don't matter, and then you do and. 429 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: White supremacist government. 430 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: I believe it's a white supremacy strategy because I say 431 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: it all the time. I say all the time, like 432 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: there's this clip that I put up every year. It's 433 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: from the movie Trick Baby, and it's it's actually liberals 434 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 4: and it's Republicans, and it was talking about the difference, 435 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: and the Republicans say, you give them jobs and you 436 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: give them this, and they say, yeah, we give them 437 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: jobs because if we leave one of them in the 438 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 4: ghetto with energy, he can rise the rest of the 439 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: people up. So what we do is we we rise 440 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: them up. We give them power. And when we give 441 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 4: them power, they own people turn on them because they 442 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: think they they with us. 443 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 3: So what we do is we neutralize. 444 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: So we constantly neutralizing our people, never giving them an 445 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: opportunity because everybody's here to fight for us. We were 446 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: fighting against the wrong things. So what they do is 447 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: they give you bullshit money. They tell you, here, we 448 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: got you want some money to keep a couple of 449 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: dollars and people say, that's what I'm here for. 450 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: Domina. That shit is never nothing. The Bible says money 451 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: is the root of all evil. So when we keep. 452 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: Talking about the shit that finances is, it doesn't it 453 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: doesn't equate with the actual reality of what equity injustice 454 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 4: is and what unity is. 455 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: It's never going to equate to that. I don't get 456 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: for how many times you see it. 457 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: Anybody can tell you, I know people that got money 458 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: all a bunch of money are not happy, right, So 459 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 4: that's not my focus. 460 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that, and I appreciate that you are, 461 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: that this is who you are, but I. 462 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: Just don't agree. I think that I am more likely 463 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: to encounter. 464 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: Prices inflated cost for gas, food, and other expenses than 465 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: I am to encounter a police officer who may take 466 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: my life. That happens rarely too often, too often, for sure, 467 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: but it is a rarity for most people. But every 468 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: single week they have to go buy eggs, bread, whatever. 469 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: So I believe that both things matter, and they're both 470 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: equally important because. 471 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: I have to be able to survive. 472 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: I need to make sure that I'm not in a 473 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: situation where I'm so financially deprived that my family members 474 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: or even I end up out there in the street 475 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: doing something I have no business doing, trying to make money. 476 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: You know what it is. 477 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying you wrong, and I understand you 478 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 4: one hundred percent correct, right. I think for me, I 479 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: think I'm at a different stage of understanding where we 480 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 4: are right. And when you watch there's a strategy that's 481 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 4: being taken and it's and it's constantly been taken, and 482 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 4: I see it. Right, It's like Elon Musk is in 483 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 4: position of power. Right, the stock market for Tesla and 484 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 4: all that shit is gonna go off and people gonna 485 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 4: invest their money in it, and then they're gonna make 486 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: a couple of dollars and Elon Musk is gonna take 487 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: control of shit that is going to negatively impact ninety 488 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 4: percent of us, right, But there's gonna be twenty to 489 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 4: thirty thousand people that feel like they they made something 490 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 4: off of it. But the ultimately that man is going 491 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: to impact us in the worst way ever. And we 492 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: think that we benefit off. 493 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: Of it, so that people agree with you about that. 494 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. I know you don't, but 495 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: I understand. 496 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: I didn't say I don't. I said I don't think 497 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't. 498 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: I know they won't because they don't understand. It's not 499 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: it's not a it's it's like it's like me, right, 500 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: It's like me living in Beverly Hills, and I'm like, 501 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: we're doing good, but five percent of us ain't. 502 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: So I can sit there if I'm sitting there. 503 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: And I'm doing good, and ten of us is good, 504 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: and were able to sit at the table and we 505 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 4: still only have the two percent of the wealth that 506 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: we've been having for one hundred years. We're not doing anything. 507 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to tell you is fool's goal. 508 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: It's a false sense of reality. We represent thirteen and 509 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 4: fourteen percent of the population and only two percent of 510 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 4: us are counted in the wealth in America. That's what 511 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 4: I'm trying They know that we're not increasing at all. 512 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: They're constantly increasing and growing their numbers of the Wolf gap. 513 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: If when you look at the wolf gap, by they 514 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: say about twenty thirty five, we will be at zero, 515 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 4: the median household for black people will be zero. This 516 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: what I'm trying to tell you. We're dealing with fool's goal, 517 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: and we keep thinking it's not I don't have to 518 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 4: it's not about what I think. 519 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. This what the numbers are saying. This 520 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: is the numbers are showing. 521 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: If you look at the average wealth from nineteen thirty 522 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: sevening to now, we only represented two percent of the wealth. 523 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 4: And you look at now, we only represent two percent 524 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 4: of the wealth. The median household is going down every time. 525 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 4: And then people was saying, look, I'm getting money, I'm 526 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: getting money. 527 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: I'm getting people believe, people believe that maybe maybe under Trump, 528 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: it's gonna be different. 529 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: What I'm trying to tell you. You saying maybe a pandemic. 530 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what i've heard. 531 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: But I'm just I'm telling you the facts. 532 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm telling you the things that you can 533 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 4: when you when you look up the numbers and you 534 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: do the real No. 535 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm just said what you're saying. 536 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: But I'm saying that there are people out here that 537 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: believe that under Donald Trump it might be something different. 538 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: Okayc was the first time he had a pandemic. He 539 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: wasn't able to accomplish the things that he wanted to do. 540 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what i've heard. I'm saying that 541 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: I don't believe any of it. I think that we're 542 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: going to see the effects of his presidency in about 543 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: two years, and. 544 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the commis. I think that 545 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: we're going. 546 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: To see the impact of his presidency in about two years. 547 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: But I think we're gonna know even more in the 548 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: next presidency. So whoever else becomes elected in four years, 549 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: that's how we're gonna know what his policies, the damage 550 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: that his policies have caused you're not. 551 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: Going to really know you want me tell you why, 552 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 4: because what happens is at this point, what they've done 553 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 4: is disenfranchised black people. Right, we have a black movement 554 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: that is so fractured that they don't even know what 555 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: the next step is. So the next person that comes 556 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: that feels like he has to leave, he's going to 557 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: sit figure that the model that he has to follow 558 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: is like Donald Trump. 559 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: Right, we was built, we were literally building. 560 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: When we look at what we were building, when we 561 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: went to the DNC and you looked at all of 562 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: the black people, when you've seen the levels of black 563 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: power and black influence and black all of that, the 564 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: next person is going to feel like they have to 565 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: move away from that because this is what this is 566 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: what America is telling you. They don't want that, they 567 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 4: don't want woke, they don't want black power, they don't 568 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 4: want all of these things. So I don't think the 569 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: next person is going to go into the positions saying you. 570 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: Know what, I think they will. 571 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't see it. 572 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: I don't see where they feel like it. If you 573 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: look at what they saying, they saying it that strategy fails. 574 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: They America does not want to be unified. America doesn't 575 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: believe that. I'm just trying to I'm telling you, I don't. 576 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: I don't see somebody. I don't see America. I don't 577 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: see no party getting behind somebody that's trying to push 578 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: the same values that they that This is probably the 579 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: word every swing statement they've they're saying is a she lacking. 580 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 4: There's no no, no common sense personal because this is 581 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: they forced us to believe there's nobody that's gonna invest 582 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: their money in their time inside the strategy that they've 583 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: already seen fail and unless something changed, nless there's something 584 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: that shifts the tide of America, unless this is see. 585 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: This is where. 586 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: This is where my thought process departs from a lot 587 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: of people, because what I believe is that we will 588 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: begin to see, like I said, in about two years, 589 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: the impact of this presidency, and it's actually going to 590 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: force us into a movement back into a space where 591 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: people are gonna realize they can't even get elected if 592 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: they are that other thing. 593 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: That's what I believe is gonna happen. 594 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: I believe that they're gonna want to get so far 595 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: away from that other thing, because for instance, when Donald 596 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: Trump was president, he got upset with New York for 597 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: not whatever whatever something he wanted people in New York 598 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: to do and the legislators he had said no. And 599 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: next thing, you know, he took away our ability to 600 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: have a global entry coming into the country. 601 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: That impacts people who have. 602 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: Money, right, and so people who have money and or 603 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: people who are well traveled, people who understand clear and 604 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: all those programs and being a known traveler, they're the 605 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: ones that's impacted by that. 606 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: They didn't like it. They didn't like it. 607 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: But you also had four years of Joe Biden in between. 608 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: So now when you circle the block to him, back 609 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: to his Shenanigans of his thinking that he can punish people, 610 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: his vindictive nature, that is going to make people turned off. 611 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: I know it is. I just wait for the day 612 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: for it all to happen. 613 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: But anyway, my daughter, they went all around into fifteen 614 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: different directions. But I think it's all great conversation. But 615 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: none of us can predict. All we can do is 616 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: because we've already predicted. We didn't predict, we forecast it 617 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: what is to come, and now it will either be 618 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: that we're wrong, which I agree. Charlamagne says something the 619 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: other day. I don't want Donald Trump to fail. I 620 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: literally don't because of his failures, the failure of our people. 621 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: I want the Lord to come into his heart and 622 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: his mind and say, hey, you got to do better. 623 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: You can't be that person. Do I believe that that 624 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: will happen. No, but that's what I want. I want 625 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: his party, the Republican Party, to look at him and say, 626 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: if we allow you to take us down this path, 627 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: we're never going to be able to win an election again, 628 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: or at least for a long time. 629 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna lose the in the midterms. 630 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: I don't understand how you're saying that when they voted 631 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 4: for death. They voted for that twice. To tell you, 632 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: it's America. 633 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: They vote, they did not, they did not, they did not. 634 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: What you have in this election is a lack of 635 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: voter participation. So when you have a people that feel ignited, 636 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: they could beat Donald Trump, but they stayed home. Fifteen 637 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: million people if what they're telling us is true, because 638 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: I don't believe shit. Because long Elon Musk is involved, 639 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what they did. I have no idea, 640 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: but let's just go with it is what it is. 641 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: The rules are the rules. So if that's what happened 642 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: and fifteen million people came home, that stay home. Those 643 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: people are part of the reason why we lost the election. 644 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is that as people go and 645 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: continue to move, we already know that more than half 646 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: of America is racist and or trying to be connected 647 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 2: to white people because they think white power and white 648 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: men is how they will get their handmaid's tell access. 649 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: To their own power. We already know that we got that. 650 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, when you really 651 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: kind of crunch it all down, most of the people 652 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: who didn't vote are people who just said, I know, 653 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna vote for Donald Trump, but I can't 654 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: support Gaza. I'm broke, I'm stressed, I'm struggling, and I 655 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: can't be involved in that. 656 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't like Joe Biden. I'm not voting for a woman. 657 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: So you have all those people I'm not voting for 658 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: a black person, a black woman. You have all those 659 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: people that, if activated, could be and put themselves in 660 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: a position or could have put us in a position 661 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: to win in two years during the midterms, because if 662 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: things are too out of control. That's when you'll see 663 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: it where people their own legislay, they got so you 664 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: with this bullshit. 665 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh we don't, we don't want you. Hey, what do 666 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: I know? 667 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 4: Listen, We'll see That's all I say, We'll see. So 668 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 4: that brings me to my music spotlight today. You know, 669 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: it's it's pretty much easy. 670 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: You know. Kendrick dropped an. 671 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 4: Album out of nowhere at six seven, eight o'clock in 672 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: the morning that just, you know, tore the whole charts 673 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: up and tore the whole music world up. 674 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: And I, you know, I was. 675 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: I had the luxury of driving my son to soccer 676 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 4: this weekend and it was about a two hour ride 677 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 4: both ways, so that was about four hours of me driving. 678 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: So I listened to it over and over and I 679 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 3: just got in tune with it. 680 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 4: And I think one of my favorite tracks on it 681 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 4: is where he took a Tupac like beating it was. 682 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 4: It was he had this energy of Tupac and it's 683 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 4: called Reincarnated And I'm trying to figure out I didn't really. 684 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 4: I'm listening to it and he's talking about two different artists. 685 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: I think one of them is Billy Holliday. I'm almost 686 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 4: sure that the woman he was talking about is Billy Holiday. 687 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 4: And I thought it was Jimmy Hendrix. 688 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: The first one. 689 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's somebody that played the guitar. 690 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly it was Jimmy Hendrix or somebody else, 691 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 4: but I gotta listen again because I gotta get the 692 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 4: dates on what it was. But he's talking about these 693 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 4: people being reincardinating and coming back as him, and then 694 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: he has a conversation at the end with God, you know, 695 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 4: and God is talking to him like I sent you 696 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 4: here these d three different ways, you know, so you 697 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 4: can get it right. 698 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: And then he's like, but you still you too YouTube 699 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: consume with war, Like you say you want peace, but 700 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 3: you consume with war. He said, well, I'm trying to 701 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: unite my people, and I'm trying to unite the worst 702 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 3: I'm doing all this what you want? 703 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 5: You? 704 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 4: You you hold these grudges and you fight wars all 705 00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 4: the time. When are you going When are you going 706 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 4: to let that go? 707 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 3: When are you gonna let that energy go? 708 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 4: And it's like he's fighting with itself and God like 709 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 4: it's such a dope song. You know what I'm saying 710 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 4: it's one of those songs that it just shows the 711 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: creativity of Kendrick Lamar. And what I respect about him 712 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 4: is that he pushes the envelope, you know, and he 713 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: does things that are different. So I would ask anybody 714 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 4: to be listening to the album, just really listen to Reincarnated. 715 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 4: Don't just listen to because it got that you know, 716 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 4: that that vibe, that that Tupac vibe, but just listen 717 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 4: to the lyrics and listen to what he's saying. 718 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to listen to the album 719 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 2: at all, but all of my music finiciados, that's how 720 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: you said. I think so that my people who love music, 721 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: they seen y'all seem to be into it. 722 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: So with that being said, I'm sure I will want myself. 723 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: It's a body of work. It's one of those bodies 724 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 4: of work, you know. That's what I love about Kendrick. 725 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 4: He doesn't just drop music and that you could just buy. 726 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 4: It's a body of work. Like each song does something 727 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 4: different to you, but it still tells like a story, 728 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: and it gives you a mind frame and puts you 729 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 4: in a mind frame and understands and it actually makes 730 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 4: you if you're creative of you an artist, it makes 731 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 4: you push yourself, Like just listening to the album and 732 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 4: gave me just ideas of my own things. They were 733 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 4: far from his, but it just pushed me to think 734 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 4: about different things. 735 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 3: So it gets you push you in a creative mind state. 736 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: That's great. 737 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: Hendrick Lamar, Hendrew Lamar, all right, let's get into our guests. 738 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: This is going to be a panel that I'm quite 739 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: excited about today. We have several people on to talk 740 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: about an issue that should matter to folks all over 741 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 2: the country. You know, I often say we need a 742 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: consent decree on America for many things, and I want 743 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: to talk more about what a consent decree is with 744 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 2: the next group of people that's coming up. So let's 745 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: have our panel. It's so good to have y'all with us. 746 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: It feels like home. Like we need to do it 747 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 2: more often so we can see y'all's faces and. 748 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: Continue to be in community together. 749 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: I just think that it is important to state that 750 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: from the day we met four years ago, which you know, 751 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: by the time I met Katura, I was apologizing off 752 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: the back for a big boobo that I made. But nonetheless, 753 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: we have continued to support one another every single step 754 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 2: of the way. I think what came out of our 755 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: connection through Brionna Taylor, the tragic and unfortunate death of 756 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: Brianna Taylor is such an example that can be studied 757 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: by movements and people across the country that while we 758 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: face conflict, we face drama, trauma, and your mama, everything 759 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 2: you could think of. Still through every step of the way, 760 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: outsiders to Little came together with the local community and 761 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 2: continued to support one another. And I just think that's 762 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 2: just so good. So I'm happy to have y'all with 763 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: us today. So we are looking at the beautiful faces 764 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 2: of Kentucky State Representative Katora Harung and also attorney at law, 765 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 2: our dear sister Leanita Baker, who has her own law 766 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: firm which is called Baker Injury Law. So if you're 767 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: out there in the Louisville or Kentucky area, or how 768 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: many other places can. 769 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 6: You practice Georgia, Kentucky and Georgia. 770 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: Kentucky and Georgia, and you have any type of injury law, 771 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: what's that called person or injury? 772 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 7: So you slip and follow somewhere, you get hit by 773 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 7: a truck, a car, anything, you know, medical negligence, nursing home, 774 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 7: any anybody injured. 775 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 2: That's your girl to call. Attorney Lanita Baker. Thank y'all 776 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: for joining us. 777 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 7: Thank you, and that's soon to be senator parent you're 778 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 7: not ship, yeah exactly. 779 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: Katura took off and has not stopped yet. So I'm 780 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: sure that soon you'll be in Washington, d C. Being 781 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: you know, Congresswoman Katura or Haran. It is coming. I'm 782 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 2: not even worried about it. 783 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 3: That's right. We'll see what happens. 784 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 8: Politics is a lot, you know, and uh so we'll see, 785 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 8: we'll see what God has in store. 786 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: I have a friend who is an elected official in 787 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: New York who calls me today. I'm cleaning and just 788 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: listening to this person venting that, like it's so hard 789 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 2: to be real and in politics like that is the 790 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 2: toughest job ever is to maintain being a real person 791 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: who's seriously about the issues, be an authentic having a 792 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 2: social justice lens and trying to blend in with as 793 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 2: they said, these suckers. Man, I can't take it. Man, 794 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: that's a word. 795 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 8: It is very difficult to balance, and it's very difficult 796 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 8: really to live when you're not doing politics. This past weekend, 797 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 8: I went to a wedding and a guy came up 798 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 8: to me and he's like, don't I know you? 799 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 3: And so I told him. 800 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 8: Who I was and he was like, you have a 801 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 8: card and I was like no, He's like, why don't 802 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 8: you have a card? And I'm like, I'm at a wedding, 803 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 8: like I'm just trying to be And so it's definitely 804 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 8: a balance, and you know, it's very humbling and an 805 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 8: honor to serve, but it is. 806 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 3: It takes a toll on. 807 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 7: An individual for real tour and you're better than me 808 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 7: because I'd be out. If I'm out at a regular 809 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 7: social event, people like I know you from somewhere. I'm like, 810 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 7: I don't know where from, and my friends would be 811 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 7: like you wrong. 812 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 6: I'm like, I mean, I know what I'm not trying 813 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 6: to talk about. 814 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: That's what my thought does to people. 815 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: People walk up to my thought everywhere and they go, yo, 816 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: I know you, I know your He goes like he 817 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: don't know what the people were talking about, because at. 818 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 4: The end of the day, I mean, sometimes you just 819 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 4: want to relax, and if they figure out who you are, 820 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 4: they say, hey, you certain says that obliged. But I'm 821 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 4: not the person that's going to say UNDERGA, I might 822 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 4: say unwrapped and I do this. 823 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to do all. You know, So if 824 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 3: you just say you look familiar, I think I know 825 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 3: I'll be like, well, maybe you do. 826 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 6: You know those faces? 827 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you tell me that all the time. 828 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: Y'all, two us so much alike is ridiculous. But so 829 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: we're here to talk about a serious issue today. I 830 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 2: appreciate the two of you being able to alter your 831 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 2: schedules because this is a real time sensitive issue for 832 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: lots of reasons. You know, during President Obama's presidency his 833 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 2: terms in office, one of the things that I was 834 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: very proud of that we worked on and we advocated for, 835 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: was the use of consent decrees to address the concerns 836 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: around police departments around the country. We know that depending 837 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: on who your president is, and particularly Republican governors do 838 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 2: not lean into consent decrees at all. But under President 839 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 2: Obama they were an eric holder. Obviously being the Attorney General. 840 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 2: This was something that they sort of brought to the 841 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 2: forefront and really began to use that particular model that 842 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 2: whatever you're going to explain it to us a little better, 843 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 2: Attorney Baker to address, to address police departments where their 844 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 2: behavior is not just one incident or two incidents, but 845 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 2: there is a pattern, a pattern in practice of abuse, 846 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: misuse of force, the violation of civil rights, and the 847 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 2: issues go on and on. And so we saw more 848 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 2: of that happening across the country. And of course, once 849 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: Donald Trump became president, the first time it went away, 850 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 2: they in fact declined to continue in that on that path. 851 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: And here we are back there again. Lenita, why don't 852 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 2: you tell us what is the importance of the consent 853 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: degree and then you can give us a little bit 854 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 2: of information about what's been happening in. 855 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: Kentucky, And of course Katura please jump in. 856 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 7: So the importance of a consent decree is it provides 857 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 7: oversight for the police department. It's not the chief, it's 858 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 7: not the mayor. It's basically saying police department. Sometimes it's jail, 859 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 7: sometimes it's school, so like in this particular instance, we're 860 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 7: talking about the Louiso Metro Police Department. But consent decrees 861 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 7: are when the Department of Justice, the Civil Rights Division 862 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 7: of the Department of Justice, which we know is led 863 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 7: by Right now and at least into January, led by 864 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 7: the formidable Kristen Clark, who has just been amazing in 865 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 7: the four years that she's had to lead that section 866 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 7: of Department of Justice. 867 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 6: It gives us her court orders. 868 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 7: Other tools for monitoring for these entities who under their 869 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 7: investigations they found that an entity, whether again police department, 870 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 7: jail schools, any government entity, has engaged in violating the 871 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 7: civil rights of any particular group of citizens within the 872 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 7: United States. 873 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 6: And so as we know here in. 874 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 7: Louisville, and after President Biden became president, the Department of 875 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 7: Justice announced that it would do an investigation into the 876 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 7: Louisville Metro Police Department for patterns in practice. Part of 877 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 7: that was based off of the recognition that came in 878 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 7: from Breonna Taylor. But in addition to Brionna Taylor, I 879 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 7: tell people, you know, we had the search warrants. I 880 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 7: represented a young man, formidable young man named Tayon. 881 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 6: Lee, who was stopped you know. 882 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 7: Driving his car in the West End, driving his mother's 883 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 7: car in the West End, detained forty five minutes to 884 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 7: an hour simply because he happened to be in the 885 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 7: wrong neighborhood driving a nice car and being a black male, 886 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 7: all he wanted to do was go home on his 887 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,879 Speaker 7: day off. 888 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 6: And you know, we just settled his case last year. 889 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 7: But there was a pattern of those and the Louis 890 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 7: Police Department called that a people places narcotics strategy to 891 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 7: decrease valient crime. But what they were doing was basically 892 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 7: horizon people in the wrong neighborhood. So their thought was, oh, 893 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 7: if we find guns come with drugs, and you know, 894 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 7: if we cracked down on drugs and guns, then you 895 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 7: know we're reducing crime. But what you were doing were 896 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 7: I seen innocent young men. We've seen that, you know 897 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 7: through their investigation the improporate Like when I read the 898 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 7: Patterns in Practice Practice report for LMPD, you would have 899 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 7: thought you were in nineteen sixties, like releasing dogs on teenagers. 900 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 6: Like what world are we living in? That this is okay? 901 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 6: And so that was ye'ah. 902 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 7: You know that those patterns in practice binding came down, 903 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 7: I want to say in twenty twenty two. It's not 904 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 7: early twenty twenty three. And the mayor team whoever he 905 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 7: put in place to negotiate on behalf of the city 906 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 7: and the Department of Justice, which I know, you know 907 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 7: this is a priority for them to get this content 908 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 7: decree signed before the administrations change. I've been negotiating, but 909 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 7: here we are two months out, and what I can say, 910 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 7: if it's not signed by January nineteenth, it's not gonna 911 00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 7: get signed and. 912 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 6: It would be business as usual for LMPD. 913 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 7: And we really need these consent decrees to force change. 914 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 6: Like we have a new police chief. 915 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 7: He can't It's only so much you can do if 916 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 7: you can't say, well, we got to change because we 917 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 7: got this consent decree. Otherwise will be in valiation of 918 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 7: a court order because it is monitored about the court. 919 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: It's all about culture. 920 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's unbelievable to me. So basically we have two 921 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,479 Speaker 4: months in order to be able to have some type 922 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 4: of jurisdiction or what these police can do to us, 923 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 4: and they've already said that they've noted a bunch of 924 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 4: patterns and practices that are pretty much unconstitutional, and so 925 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 4: we got to fight for them to actually just do 926 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 4: the right thing. 927 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 7: For the mayor to do the right thing and sign 928 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 7: the consent decree. And when we say two months, it's 929 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 7: because of what happened with the election. If we weren't 930 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 7: if November seventh, it turned out differently. 931 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 6: It may not. It still needs to be signed, but 932 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 6: it's not as high of a like. 933 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 7: I don't think BP Harris would have been saying we're 934 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 7: not going to do consent decrees. But we know that 935 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 7: Donald Trump would do that because one, he did it 936 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 7: the first time he was elected, you know, when he 937 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 7: took office in twenty seventeen, and two he already wants 938 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 7: officers to have full immunity, So what the hell would 939 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 7: why would he do it content decree? So that's why 940 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 7: we are at the space that we are at. And 941 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 7: I feel like, for me, for as much work as 942 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 7: everyone on this callee put in, for as much work 943 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 7: as everybody in the city has put in, if our 944 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 7: mayor is not willing to sign it, then like. 945 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: That's another issue, a whole other issue. 946 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 6: But it's time for him to go too. 947 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm gonna say that. 948 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 8: Before we go on, or do want to like, let 949 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 8: the folks know what exactly those things were that were 950 00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 8: in that report absolutely so specifically the Justice Apartment and 951 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 8: found that LMPD uses excessive force, including unjustified net restraints 952 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 8: and unreasonable use of police dogs and tasers. Conduct searches 953 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 8: based on invalid warrants, unlawfully execute search warrants without knocking 954 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 8: and announcing, unlawfully stops searches, detains and arrests people during 955 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 8: street enforcement activities, including traffic and pedestrian stops, unlawfully discriminates 956 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 8: against black people and its enforcement activities, violates the rights 957 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 8: of people engaged in protected free speech critical of police. 958 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 8: And the last thing they found was that LMPD discriminates 959 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 8: against people with behavioral health disabilities room responding to crisses. 960 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 1: That's a list. That's a long list. 961 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 3: That's a long list. 962 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: Representative Haraan, why would your man not sign? What is 963 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: he saying? What's the issue at this point? 964 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 8: I mean, I think if you look at what he 965 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 8: is saying publicly, he just basically said that they're not 966 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 8: in agreeans but has not gone into detail exactly what 967 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 8: that means. But publicly that is what he is saying 968 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 8: that currently they do not agree. The two parties have 969 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 8: not come on an agreeance. I think the other thing 970 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 8: that I want people to know and understand is that 971 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 8: the community has never been a part of the process 972 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 8: once the negotiation is started, So we're actually also in 973 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 8: a place where we're putting trust in the current administration 974 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 8: and putting trust in the DOJ that whatever comes out 975 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 8: of it, that we're trusting that that is what we 976 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 8: want as a community. 977 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 3: And so. 978 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 8: You know, it's so it's a lot so like right now, 979 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 8: we're literally putting our trust in these two entities that 980 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 8: they're going to do right by the people. And so 981 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 8: as we're saying we need to get this done before 982 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 8: January nineteenth, we still haven't even had it even been 983 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 8: a part of that deeper conversation about what exactly is 984 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 8: the negotiations right now or who actually from. 985 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,479 Speaker 3: The city is a part of the negotiation. We don't 986 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 3: know what that is. 987 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 2: I mentioned that our councilwoman, Shamika parish Wright has also joined. 988 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for Shamika for coming in and 989 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 2: being with us. Counselwoman, please. 990 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 5: Thank you first, good afternoon, and it's an honor to 991 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 5: be here and I really appreciate you all. Keeping as 992 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 5: fire lit, I told Tamika, the timing is perfect, and 993 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 5: I'm glad that we have a Kentucky lawyer who is 994 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,959 Speaker 5: very amazing and capable. So if I say some things 995 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 5: that ain't right, you could get me right. But I 996 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 5: first want to thank now Senator Electator hearing. That is 997 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 5: the phenomenal to know that you're going to be carrying 998 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,399 Speaker 5: justice and equality and all those things at that level 999 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 5: because we really really need it. And today we had 1000 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 5: a press conference right at in Justice Square aka Jefferson Square, 1001 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 5: right where the marker is signifying what happened to Breonna 1002 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 5: Taylor and all the subsequent best David McAtee and Tyler 1003 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 5: Gerf and everyone else that's been connected. It's been an 1004 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 5: ongoing battle. I don't know about you all, because you 1005 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 5: all have been day one down on the ground too, 1006 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 5: but it's been an up and down roller coaster and 1007 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 5: as my son alluded to, it just seems like never ending, 1008 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 5: you know, an accountability I don't know. I got in 1009 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 5: trouble a lot when I was younger. I don't know 1010 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 5: about you all, and the only choice I had sometimes 1011 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 5: was to choose a switch or a belt or punishment, 1012 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 5: and to me, punishment was the worst. But I knew 1013 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 5: that with the switch or the belt it'll be over 1014 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 5: with quick. The problem is is that LMPD is trying 1015 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 5: to continue through the mayor, because the mayor is now 1016 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 5: as a puppet we have one of our deputy mayors 1017 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 5: that is a former police officer that still operates, was 1018 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,399 Speaker 5: once over the FOP was once he was there when 1019 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 5: they had a recent consent decree. This is our second 1020 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 5: consent decree in recent history. The first one was on 1021 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 5: the hiring practices, and he was there this this deputy 1022 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 5: mayor was there doing that part of the process and 1023 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 5: maybe it helped him as a black man on the 1024 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 5: police force. But right now what we have is people 1025 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,280 Speaker 5: the police who have been policing themselves the whole time, 1026 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 5: trying to tell us. They didn't tell us how they 1027 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 5: were going to hurt us, but they're trying to tell 1028 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 5: us how we should heal. So they're looking for an 1029 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 5: exit date. They said that they looked at all these 1030 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 5: different content decrees in other places and they seem to 1031 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 5: go on with the monitoring and they want to make sure. 1032 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 9: That there's a real clear exit strategy. 1033 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 10: One of the reasons, one of the reasons we have 1034 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 10: were giving to what was given to why the mayor isn't, 1035 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 10: as you know, trying to sign it. 1036 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 5: But they say different things. They talked about both sides 1037 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 5: of their mouth. They say in one press conference by 1038 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 5: Thanksgiving we should have something, and that the mayor is 1039 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 5: eager to sign it. And then when I was just 1040 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 5: in a council meeting before our regular council meeting, it 1041 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 5: was announced that the mayor wants to make sure that 1042 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 5: there's an extra strategy and in one of the council 1043 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 5: people alluded to the ongoing cost of monitoring. So my 1044 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 5: thing is, so what whatever it costs, LMPD earned it. 1045 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 5: That is the narrative that we must all be united on. 1046 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 5: They earned this concept decree. You don't get to tell 1047 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 5: us when it ends. You don't get to try to 1048 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,240 Speaker 5: maintain and monitor. 1049 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 9: What you get out of your as. 1050 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 5: Your punishment or your consequences. Because this has happened before, 1051 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,760 Speaker 5: our LMPD is our the same Louisville Metro Police Department 1052 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 5: accused of hurting young children in their Explorer program, raping 1053 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 5: young children, raping women. There's nothing in our books for that. 1054 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 5: I'm thankful for the work of representative hearing because without 1055 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 5: that we wouldn't even have a formal no more, no 1056 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 5: knocks on the books. I'm thankful for the States, but 1057 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 5: there's been nothing really significant. So the DOJ response is 1058 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 5: a federal response, and what we need is a local 1059 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 5: response that helps us hold them accountable, which is why 1060 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 5: I followed the People's Consent to cree and that has 1061 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 5: exactly what Caturrn Hearing laid out, as well as the 1062 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 5: History of Policing report. It's their words, it's the words 1063 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 5: that they've accepted, that they put on their website, and 1064 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 5: to get my colleagues to pass a resolution meant for them. 1065 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 5: They couldn't hold too truth. You can want the most trusted, trained, 1066 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 5: well paid police department, but they still are held accountable 1067 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 5: because basically we're paying them and they're violating human rights 1068 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 5: and civil rights and there's no repercussion. And if you 1069 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 5: really want to stop the gang balance and the balance 1070 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 5: that we see, that balance happens in board rooms, it 1071 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 5: happens before we see it on the ground, and it 1072 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 5: definitely happens with our police department. So we have so 1073 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 5: many fronts on I just appreciate being able to be 1074 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 5: a part of this communication. I plan to refoul the 1075 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 5: People's Consent decree. It passed out of committee and then 1076 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 5: it got sold when it went to the whole council, 1077 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 5: and so I wrote our council for council, I wrote 1078 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 5: them and asked them, what do I need to do 1079 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 5: to foul this again, because we have nothing in writing 1080 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 5: to meet in mine soon on our books that really 1081 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 5: acknowledges what has happened. This federal response is one thing, 1082 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 5: but we don't have anything that signifies what happens so 1083 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 5: that we can hold them accountable going forward. 1084 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 7: I think one thing with that though, too, is we 1085 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 7: do have to be cognizant of Like I'm in support 1086 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 7: of the people's consent decree, but I also don't want 1087 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 7: to confuse constituents in we have a federal consent decree 1088 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 7: which the federal courts can enforce, and so there is 1089 00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 7: that enforceability mechanism within that consent decree. And I you know, 1090 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 7: I've seen the work that Kristin Clark has been putting 1091 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 7: in around the country, not just in Louisville. 1092 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 6: Like this isn't just something she's doing in Louisville. 1093 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 1094 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 7: She comes from Tamika, you know, Kristen, she She's got 1095 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 7: a long pedigree from Lawyer's Committee for Civil Rights under 1096 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 7: the Law to you know that this appointment and you know, 1097 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 7: her office being the one that led the is leading 1098 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 7: the criminal prosecutions for the officers against Breonna Taylor, her 1099 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 7: office being the ones that you know did the criminal 1100 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 7: prosecutions against the officers that was throwing to Slashy. 1101 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 6: So it's like her office. 1102 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 7: Has been the one holding these people responsible for even 1103 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 7: the little bit of respons is. It's it's a small 1104 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 7: measure of accountability for what needs to be happened. But 1105 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 7: any type of accountability that's come, whether it's in Brianna 1106 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 7: Taylor's case or whether it's in other cases the civil 1107 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 7: rights violations, it's coming from her office. 1108 00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 6: And so I have a lot of faith. 1109 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 7: It's like when we talk about what's in that consent decree, 1110 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 7: Kristen ain't letting no bs come through that consent decree. 1111 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 7: And so like when I say like pushing consent like 1112 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 7: before January nineteenth, like to me, I feel like may 1113 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 7: Greenberger has stalled it out and you know he's sought 1114 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 7: it out to see what's gonna happen with the election, 1115 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 7: and then like, oh the election turned out, you know, 1116 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 7: we might get away without actually ever having. 1117 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 6: To sound one. And it's like, nah, we shouldn't let 1118 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 6: that ride. 1119 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 7: Like this department is no better than it was when 1120 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 7: they issued that report. And you set up here and 1121 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 7: it's like, oh, we're going to accept the accountability and 1122 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 7: da da da. And at the end of the day, 1123 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 7: when we talk about how much it's gonna cost to 1124 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 7: monitor it, what I can tell you is these lawsuits 1125 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 7: that continue to come costs more than the cost to 1126 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 7: monitor it because they continue to get sued back to 1127 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 7: back to back. Like people are taking this patterns and 1128 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 7: practice investigation finding, they're taking like the civil rights attorneys 1129 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 7: are taking it in court, like look what they do, 1130 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 7: Like it's ain't just they can't say they didn't know, 1131 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 7: they've been valid and they continuing to do it. 1132 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 6: So like we have to change. 1133 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 7: And if they're not going to change, like mayor, by 1134 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 7: bye bye. 1135 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 3: So what do you think what should be the next steps? 1136 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 3: What can people do? 1137 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 4: Like, you know, Katura was talking about how there is 1138 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 4: nobody part of you know, the community that has any 1139 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 4: input inside of what happened in is discent decrease. So 1140 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 4: what can just the people in constituents and the citizens 1141 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 4: do to help move this forward. 1142 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 8: I think the biggest thing right now is there has 1143 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 8: to be all hands on deck and pressure for the 1144 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 8: mayor's office to sign it, you know, and people can 1145 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 8: do that by a calling directly to the Mayor's office. 1146 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 8: People can also call their Metro Council members. Obviously we 1147 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 8: have Councilwoman Paris right who's on board. But the same 1148 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 8: way that we had the line going when it came 1149 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 8: to Breonna Taylor in twenty twenty, when you call Metro 1150 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 8: Council literally on that line and said, if you're calling 1151 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 8: regard Breonna Taylor, press one, all other inquiries press two, 1152 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 8: and that's the same type of pressure that needs to 1153 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 8: be put back on that. They need to note that 1154 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 8: the people are serious and that this needs to be 1155 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 8: signed because of significance. No matter what the next administration 1156 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 8: is gonna do, this is the responsibility of the mayor. 1157 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 3: And this administration. 1158 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 8: We can't wait to see what a Trump administration's gonna do, 1159 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 8: whether he's gonna take them away or not. We'll deal 1160 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 8: with that when that piece comes, but right now, the 1161 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 8: Mayor's office they need to do everything in their power 1162 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 8: to put that pen to that paper and sign it 1163 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 8: and to get on the contract to make sure that 1164 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 8: the people of Louisville are protected, and then for him 1165 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 8: to hold truth to what he said that he was 1166 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 8: gonna do when the people elected him right, And. 1167 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 2: I think that's so important because regardless of what happens 1168 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 2: with Trump, he still has a re election for himself. 1169 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 2: The mayor is going to want to run for reelection, 1170 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 2: and people need to be able to measure him, not 1171 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 2: by Kristen Clark, not by Donald Trump, not by any 1172 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 2: of those measures. It needs to be based upon his 1173 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 2: own merit and what he has done. And so I think, 1174 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 2: I think you're one hundred percent right that we have 1175 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 2: to turn up the energy. That's why we wanted to 1176 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 2: have this conversation today so that people can have the 1177 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 2: information they need. It is very challenging when you're working, studying, 1178 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 2: living your life to understand everything that's happening around you, 1179 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 2: especially in terms of the political atmosphere, and it is 1180 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 2: important for us to break it down and bite size 1181 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 2: pieces so people can say that I understand that, I 1182 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 2: want to get behind that I want to fight for it. 1183 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 2: A lot of times we say that our communities are 1184 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 2: not really involved in things, and it's literally because they 1185 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 2: don't understand because no one has explained it to them. 1186 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 2: And so I think, you know, getting out there and 1187 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: you know and making sure that every Lotty Dottie and everybody, 1188 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 2: as they say, knows exactly what's happening in this moment 1189 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 2: is going to be important, and that's the work of 1190 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 2: the foot soldiers, you know, those of us who knock 1191 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 2: on doors, who talk to folks and getting that type 1192 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 2: of information out there. So I know you also wear 1193 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 2: another hat, counsel woman, of also being a vocal Kentucky 1194 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 2: And I'm sure you all are already working on this, 1195 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 2: but I feel like what people who are listening can 1196 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 2: do is to get the information that they need to 1197 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 2: go push it out into the corners of the city. 1198 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 2: So talk about that. But I want to make sure 1199 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 2: Representative Iran that you are able to come back and 1200 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 2: really briefly before you go today. This is Louisville, but 1201 01:04:55,480 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 2: this issue is not only a Louisville issue. This is 1202 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 2: i'm sure all of Kentucky, and we need to consent 1203 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 2: to decree in America in general over all, the police departments, 1204 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 2: all of that, right, we need all. 1205 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: Of it, all of them. 1206 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 2: So I want you to talk about what do you 1207 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 2: see in terms of the importance of this for the 1208 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,439 Speaker 2: entire state of Kentucky, because I'm sure there are other 1209 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 2: pockets that are under your purview. Who have similar issues 1210 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 2: that are not being addressed. So one first, we'll go 1211 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 2: with you, Shamika, and then Katura. 1212 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 5: Thank you for that, and I answer you and my 1213 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 5: song questions. That is exactly it. The community organizing has 1214 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 5: to happen no matter what three sixty five, whether somebody 1215 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 5: is running or not. The awareness to making this work 1216 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 5: digestible in different levels and for people to understand their roles. 1217 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 5: I think that there's a lot of things that people 1218 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 5: can do within their discretion that they don't realize they 1219 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 5: can do. And so education that is continuous, that's reciprocated 1220 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 5: is so important through this process and making sure that 1221 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 5: we show up or the good thing is I have 1222 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 5: my counsel role, and then as you said, I have 1223 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 5: the role as the director of an organization that is 1224 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 5: fighting for people to not be incarcerated, to not have 1225 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 5: their rights violated, to be able to meet people where 1226 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 5: they at. And these are people who are directly intacted, 1227 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 5: who are now being asked to be at decision making 1228 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 5: tables at judiciary hearings to be able to articulate their story. 1229 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 5: So they're a storytelling part of this. And I totally 1230 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 5: agree with LENNINGA. Baker on. My distrust is not with 1231 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,439 Speaker 5: that part of what Christian Clark and other folks are doing. 1232 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 5: My issue is that we make things, we paint things 1233 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 5: with our current administration for one thing. 1234 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 9: In the media, but if we don't have a. 1235 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 5: Way to hold them accountable locally, then it's just the 1236 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 5: same old thing as we've seen the police police in themselves. 1237 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 5: So one of the other jobs we have to do, 1238 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 5: and I'm hoping that the People's consent decree. 1239 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 9: Adds to it, is keep that fire lit. Keep the 1240 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 9: fire lit because the mayor cares about his name and 1241 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 9: the press because he's working on getting re elected, like 1242 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 9: Nita saying, and election has its consequences as we all 1243 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 9: are still processing and dealing with the most recent elections. 1244 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 9: So I think that we have to be both in 1245 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 9: and we have to know who our allies are and 1246 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 9: work with them. I think the work that you all 1247 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 9: are doing is phenomenal because until freedom can bring that 1248 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 9: national platform, keep that national heat on. 1249 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 5: And I think what Katura is doing is amazing because 1250 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,959 Speaker 5: her work and our work with Vocal, we're going into 1251 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,919 Speaker 5: the hoods, the hollows, the suburban, the urban, and we're 1252 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 5: talking to people and guess what, It's less about their 1253 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 5: party affiliation, less about the lines that separate them, and 1254 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 5: it's more about these issues. And as you said to me, 1255 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 5: because the same issues people are dealing with in these 1256 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 5: hoods and in these counties where everybody knows everybody, and 1257 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 5: they use the judicial system to further bully the people. 1258 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 5: And so we got to make sure that we're showing 1259 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 5: up for people in every way. So we're going to 1260 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 5: continue the base build, We're going to continue to mobilize, 1261 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 5: We're going to continue to get more people engaged in 1262 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 5: our organization and the other partner organizations. And then we 1263 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 5: also want to push for people to be appointed to 1264 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 5: these seats as commissioners, as being a part of where 1265 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 5: these decisions are being made and where we can push 1266 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 5: people to use their discretion, because a lot of people 1267 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 5: need to be engaged in this work, not just our 1268 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 5: foot soldiers, of course, but sometimes we have people who 1269 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 5: work within the government or within the agencies who can 1270 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 5: lift up their voices and be a. 1271 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 9: Part of this. 1272 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 5: So I think the empowerment to standing with our folks 1273 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 5: when they are making the right decisions, to having their 1274 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 5: back when things are going well, and to build a culture, 1275 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 5: because you talked about culture change earlier, to build a 1276 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 5: culture where people can actually stand on the right side 1277 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,639 Speaker 5: of this penimum that we know is moving towards justice 1278 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 5: and feel supported. Because we still operate as a small 1279 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 5: town in Kentucky where they can pick up the phone 1280 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 5: and shut you down, and so people worry about their 1281 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 5: jobs and their housing. So we're trying to find ways 1282 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 5: where people can take a part of this and still 1283 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 5: have a home to go to and still have a 1284 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,719 Speaker 5: job to go to. So I'm in it to wherever 1285 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,639 Speaker 5: our vocal folks are in it and other organizing groups 1286 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 5: are in it, and I want to be connected to 1287 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 5: what you all are doing. 1288 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, Shamikha. 1289 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,040 Speaker 8: And as you spoke about the hood to the holler 1290 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 8: and the urban and suburban, this police misconduct is happening 1291 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 8: all over the state of Kentucky, and so as you said, 1292 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 8: why is it important that we do this here, It's 1293 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 8: important because we need to send a message across the commonwealth. 1294 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 8: Just last week, there was a family of a white guy, 1295 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 8: I believe his name was Joseph Martin. Believe it's Joey 1296 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 8: or Joseph Martin that his family just fouled a lawsuit 1297 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 8: and they're wanting a federal investigation because their son was 1298 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 8: killed in Marion County, in a smaller county in our state, 1299 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,679 Speaker 8: where the police kneeled on the back of his neck 1300 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 8: for over a minute and a half. 1301 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 3: And so when we talk. 1302 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 8: About the misconduct that's happening as it relates to policing, 1303 01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,839 Speaker 8: it's not just happening in Louisville. It is happening across 1304 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 8: the commonwealth. Here in the Commonwealth, there's been a lot 1305 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 8: of police involved shootings where police have killed and shot 1306 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:16,600 Speaker 8: individuals who were unarmed. And so this is something that 1307 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 8: I believe that if we're able to get that consent 1308 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 8: decree done here in Louisville, then it does in the 1309 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 8: message across the state and it empowers other communities to say, 1310 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 8: you know what, we can speak up and we can 1311 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 8: band together to hold our law enforcement together, because as 1312 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 8: counselwoman just said, it is very difficult when you go 1313 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 8: out in these communities and talk to folks, their business owners, 1314 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 8: they have law practices, they're doctors. Some of them are 1315 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 8: afraid to speak out because depending where they are, people 1316 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 8: will stop patronizing their businesses. But I believe that this 1317 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 8: what this statement says is it doesn't matter if you're black, white, 1318 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 8: from Louisville or you're from the country. We're gonna band 1319 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 8: together and right is right and wrong is wrong. And 1320 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 8: at the end of the day, we want to make 1321 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 8: sure that all Kentuckians that they have justice and they 1322 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 8: are protected and protected from law enforcement, and the law 1323 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 8: enforcement is doing their job, and when they're not doing 1324 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,880 Speaker 8: their job, we are going to hold them accountable. 1325 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 3: Amen. I want I just want to say one thing, 1326 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 3: just on a high note. You know, we did see 1327 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,600 Speaker 3: a peace of justice in Breonna Taylor's case. You know 1328 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 3: we did. 1329 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 4: We you know we we've been fighting against it and 1330 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 4: it just shows how elections have consequences, how fighting has consequences. 1331 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 4: For four years straight, we did everything possible to bring 1332 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 4: attention to fight. Lenita was the lawyer, We was outside advocating. 1333 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 4: You know, we watched you guys get elected to office 1334 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 4: based off just the fighting and everything that we did 1335 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 4: during that case. So I just want you to I 1336 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 4: need to just speak a little bit about what happened 1337 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 4: in that case and just you know, and give us 1338 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 4: a little bit of hope, a little bit of hope 1339 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 4: and just say what should be the next steps that 1340 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 4: we should be doing. 1341 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1342 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 7: So, of course, a few weeks ago, Bratt Hankinson was 1343 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 7: found guilty for voilating the civil rights of Breonna Taylor. 1344 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 6: So his sentence and is now in April. 1345 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 7: First, it was gonna be March twelfth, which was, you know, 1346 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 7: on the eve of the anniversary of Brianna's death. But 1347 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 7: I think his lawyers later realized that, hold on, that 1348 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 7: might not so it's in April now. 1349 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 6: But that's okay, Ms Palmer. She was mad, but she's 1350 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:33,479 Speaker 6: okay now. 1351 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,560 Speaker 7: He did foul a motion for a new trial, you know, 1352 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 7: as I tell Miss Palmer all the time. 1353 01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,879 Speaker 6: Like that, he's their defense attorney. 1354 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 7: They have to do it right. I'm not as worried 1355 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 7: about the motion for a new trial. The one thing 1356 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 7: I can say about Judge Jennings is I do feel 1357 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 7: like she did everything within her power to make sure 1358 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 7: that that trial was fair. And so I'm not as 1359 01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 7: concerned about a new trial. And she's not going anywhere anytime. 1360 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 7: I'm soon, Judge Jennings. The other two officers, Joshua James 1361 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 7: and cal Meanie, were still waiting on trial dates for them. 1362 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,720 Speaker 7: Mike songer An. I always forget Inns name. 1363 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 6: I hate it. But the DOJ prosecutors. 1364 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 7: The good thing about the two prosecutors that we've had 1365 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,600 Speaker 7: in this case is they extend beyond any presidential administration. 1366 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 6: They didn't come on when Biden was higher. 1367 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 7: You know, they've been around for ages, and so, you know, 1368 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 7: barring somebody coming in and telling them to get rid 1369 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 7: of these cases, they're going to fight tooth and nail 1370 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,720 Speaker 7: to get justice for BROWNA. Taylor's family. And I have 1371 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 7: four faith and trust in those two prosecutors. You know, 1372 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 7: you guys saw the first trial. This trial, we was 1373 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 7: all outside trying to figure out what's going on with elections. 1374 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 7: It was so much going on this time around it, 1375 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 7: and like even I was like, did we really set 1376 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 7: a trial like two weeks before election date or a 1377 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 7: month before election day? But that first trial, you know, 1378 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 7: you got to see them and and and interact with 1379 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 7: with those prosecutors, and you can tell their heart art 1380 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,639 Speaker 7: that it is for fighting a system of corruption within 1381 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 7: police departments and get rid of. 1382 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 6: Those civil rights violations. And so I do have faith 1383 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 6: in those two. 1384 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 2: We were fighting and we were in an election during 1385 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 2: the first trial as well. Because that's when we spent 1386 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,520 Speaker 2: Daniel Cameron's asked and sentence. 1387 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 5: Exact Cameron Judge just always. 1388 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: It's never there is no fight that we're. 1389 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 2: Involved in that's easy or simple, or the cake will 1390 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 2: always an added layer. I forgot about that it was 1391 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 2: doing it was there an election. So but I want 1392 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 2: to say thank you to all of you, and and 1393 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 2: my son has said that we have wins. 1394 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 6: I got one thing though, before you go. 1395 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 7: So next Tuesday, the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, 1396 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 7: we talked about Tamika Palmer, Brianna's mom. 1397 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,680 Speaker 6: She is going to be in Washington, d C. With 1398 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:09,719 Speaker 6: Kristin Clark. 1399 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 7: This year marks thirty years of Patterns in Practice the 1400 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 7: Civil Rights Department Division, Department of Justice being able to 1401 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 7: pursue civil rights remedies for patterns in practice as valation. 1402 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 6: So they have a panel coming up next Tuesday. 1403 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 7: Ms Palmer is going to be there as a representative 1404 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 7: of a family who's been impacted. As you heard, representative 1405 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 7: or Senator elected. I don't know which one. 1406 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 5: I like. 1407 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 6: We're going to representative senator elect give a. 1408 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 5: Hearing. 1409 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 7: You heard her talk about one of the valations that 1410 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 7: they found was getting improper search warrant so that the 1411 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 7: patterns in practice definitely led to Brianna's murder. 1412 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 6: And so she's going to be up there with. 1413 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 7: Kristin Clark and some other Derek Johnson's one of the panelists. 1414 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,560 Speaker 7: So that's going on next Tuesday, December third. And the 1415 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,640 Speaker 7: phone calls still work because when we was doing a 1416 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,720 Speaker 7: number no Knock, some of my friends that were all 1417 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,879 Speaker 7: Metro Council call and it was like, I'm not already 1418 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 7: voted for it. Can you please tell them to stop 1419 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,919 Speaker 7: calling me. I'm like, now they're calling everybody. 1420 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: I can't you know, So anything about that, that's all right. 1421 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 2: You get a call too, because the elected officials, from 1422 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,240 Speaker 2: the morning to the night, things can shift. So we 1423 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 2: just get fresh on because when those donors start calling things, 1424 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 2: people start getting a little shaky, which is why I 1425 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 2: appreciate that the two elected officials that we have here 1426 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:35,679 Speaker 2: are two that. 1427 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 1: Have taken the hard way. 1428 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 2: It's the steps up the backside of the building, and 1429 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 2: you know you might have to take the fire escape also, 1430 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 2: which means that you're not taking the money from all 1431 01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 2: the big corporations and the special interest groups. You know, 1432 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 2: you out here bootstraps like real knee and dollars and 1433 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 2: cents from every single person who believes in justice, who 1434 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 2: believes in a fair process in terms of you know, 1435 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 2: our government and elections and all of that, and you know, 1436 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 2: and I just think, you know, it's the same for us. 1437 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 2: And until freedom, we could be taking money from corporations. 1438 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 2: And you know, we got we have friends, they got 1439 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 2: a lot of money. They would love to give us money, 1440 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 2: but they got that's gonna come with conditions. It's gonna 1441 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 2: come with people expecting certain things. So we are out here. 1442 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes the bank account has the money for payroll, and 1443 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 2: sometimes it's real low, and we're trying to figure it out. 1444 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,720 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, we maintain our integrity, 1445 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 2: and certainly the two of you have done that. And 1446 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 2: of course Lanita won't even take certain people's cases, So 1447 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 2: that's an I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to her because 1448 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,040 Speaker 2: Lania needs to be the one to go get rich, 1449 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,760 Speaker 2: don't worry about not taking certain people's money so the 1450 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,599 Speaker 2: rest of us can have something. 1451 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 1: We love y'all so much. 1452 01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 2: We're gonna be in Kentucky soon, and this particular effort, 1453 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 2: it feels like we have days to push as hard 1454 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 2: as possible. So let's talk offline and figure out what 1455 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 2: that looks like and continue to to and and to 1456 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:12,960 Speaker 2: activate our base. 1457 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 1: We have a base. We built a base. 1458 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,160 Speaker 2: In Kentucky across the state of people who just need 1459 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 2: to know what to do, and we need to give 1460 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 2: them that and get them to work. 1461 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 1: Y'all, Love you, y'all. 1462 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 2: Congratulations, Congratulations again. 1463 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 4: By y'all. 1464 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,840 Speaker 2: Listen, it's a it's a fight, it's a struggle. It's 1465 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 2: it's we like this. 1466 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,439 Speaker 3: We're always in the trenches, man, that's what we do. 1467 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:51,680 Speaker 5: Man. 1468 01:18:51,760 --> 01:19:02,680 Speaker 4: So shout out to Katura, I mean, representatives Paris, right, 1469 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 4: councilwoman in shout out to Esquire. So all the work 1470 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 4: we've done, man, Like you said, we built a real 1471 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 4: family in Kentucky. Now, I wanted to make sure that 1472 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 4: we talked about that little piece of justice that we got. 1473 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 8: Man. 1474 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 4: For all those years, you know, there was tears, there 1475 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 4: was there was tear gas. 1476 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,839 Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of things that was lost. 1477 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,679 Speaker 4: There was we lost other people during that that lost 1478 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 4: their life, you know, during those times. So I just 1479 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 4: want to say that when we fight, we win, man. 1480 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,599 Speaker 4: We don't you know, we don't always win. But when 1481 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 4: we fight, you know, we actually any because because we fought, 1482 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 4: you know, so I just want us to understand. People say, oh, 1483 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 4: what you marched for? 1484 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:52,720 Speaker 3: What you doing that for? 1485 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,320 Speaker 4: We marched so that we could see some justice for 1486 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 4: Breonna Taylor and the actually have we marched so we 1487 01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 4: can make sure that. 1488 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 3: Daniel Cameron then become the governor. 1489 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 4: These are things that we launched for, and we understand 1490 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,200 Speaker 4: when we make our voices loud and we show our 1491 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:11,000 Speaker 4: unity and we are intentional about things, those things actually happen. 1492 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 2: So absolutely, absolutely, what don't you get today, sir? 1493 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 3: What don't not get today? 1494 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 4: And it's it's it's pretty much simple because it goes 1495 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 4: along with this. You know, we're talking about descent decrees 1496 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,080 Speaker 4: and Patterson practices, and we're talking about all these laws 1497 01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,600 Speaker 4: that can be activated and things that need to be activated, 1498 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 4: and then we. 1499 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,320 Speaker 3: Talk about an election. 1500 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 4: And what I don't get right is we we've been 1501 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:41,680 Speaker 4: very intentional about letting people understand that for us, it 1502 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,680 Speaker 4: wasn't November seventh or no, it was November eighth, it 1503 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,640 Speaker 4: was the day after. 1504 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:47,800 Speaker 1: No, it's November. 1505 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 2: The election was it was November six of it was 1506 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,200 Speaker 2: November fifth, y'all people all wrong. 1507 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 5: You A. 1508 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 4: I was just I don't even remember it, but I 1509 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 4: just know we made We were very vocal about saying that. 1510 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 4: For us, it was the day after election that we 1511 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 4: really needed to start organizing. And what I don't get 1512 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,960 Speaker 4: is how there is this narrative and there's this loud 1513 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 4: people screaming, well, the the election is open now, won't 1514 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,639 Speaker 4: y'all just get over it? You know Trump is the president, 1515 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 4: that's it. 1516 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,600 Speaker 3: Just move on. 1517 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 1518 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 3: I don't get what that means. 1519 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 4: I don't get why people don't understand that there's the process. 1520 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 4: You elect the president. Now, you hold the president accountable. 1521 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 4: Now you are very critical. Now you make sure the 1522 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 4: things that needed to get that you want to happen 1523 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 4: in your community happen. It's not okay, we wanted a 1524 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 4: different candidate. Our candidate loss, so we don't work anymore. Like, 1525 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 4: I don't even understand why people think that's how it goes. 1526 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 3: Every time I have a conversation or you post something about. 1527 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 4: Okay, these are the people that you know the president 1528 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 4: elect is putting in his cabinet, and they. 1529 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,679 Speaker 3: Oh, y'all just saw losing. 1530 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,680 Speaker 4: No, we want you to understand the process We want 1531 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,559 Speaker 4: you to understand who the hold accountable for certain things 1532 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 4: inside our communities, things that's going on inside, laws that 1533 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 4: we need to be passed, laws that haven't been passed. 1534 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,880 Speaker 4: We want everybody to be aware. We're not supposed to 1535 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,880 Speaker 4: just go to sleep. The election is over and we 1536 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 4: just go to bed, because no, it doesn't work like that. 1537 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,719 Speaker 4: So I really don't get why people think that now 1538 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,760 Speaker 4: because Trump is a has been elected president and he 1539 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 4: wasn't the person that we wanted to be elected president, 1540 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,160 Speaker 4: that we're supposed to just sail off into the sunset 1541 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 4: and be quiet for four years. I just don't understand that. 1542 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 2: Well, I don't have anything to add to that. 1543 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:33,320 Speaker 1: It is what it is. 1544 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 2: I've never not been fighting against elected officials, I mean literally, 1545 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:41,759 Speaker 2: even when they're my friends. 1546 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 3: This is what I told him, I said, I'm not 1547 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 3: for an opponent. 1548 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:51,040 Speaker 2: I you know, I supported Mayor Deblasio's him becoming mayor 1549 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,840 Speaker 2: in New York City. 1550 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't think, I don't think 1551 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: I endorsed him. 1552 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 2: I can't remember at this point, but I do know 1553 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:03,639 Speaker 2: that while Mayor Deblasio was mayor, especially in the beginning, 1554 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 2: I was a supporter of his because I knew what 1555 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,559 Speaker 2: he had committed to. He was out there, he was 1556 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 2: protesting with us against stopping frisk. He was extremely vocal 1557 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,400 Speaker 2: about reform dealing with policing in New York City. He 1558 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 2: also was very supportive of the community violence intervention community. 1559 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,960 Speaker 2: He was one to give a number of dollars, millions 1560 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 2: of dollars in his budget to community violence intervention advocates 1561 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 2: and grassroots workers and leaders across the city. And so 1562 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,799 Speaker 2: I supported that as soon as he started to waiver 1563 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 2: because the police turned their backs on him, and he 1564 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 2: had a number of challenges in terms of dealing with 1565 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 2: specifically with police abuse, and then there were other issues. 1566 01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to relitigate the Deblasio. 1567 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,719 Speaker 1: Time, but you know, we do know that while he. 1568 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:11,799 Speaker 2: Was mayor, Daniel Pantaleo, which is the officer who killed 1569 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,800 Speaker 2: Eric Garner, he the mayor's response to that and the 1570 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 2: way he handled the situation, and the fact that his 1571 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 2: own police department refused to move forward with very significant 1572 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 2: and serious accountability measures for Daniel Pantaleo, we said, well, 1573 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 2: the nice uh what do you call it? 1574 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:35,759 Speaker 6: The nice? 1575 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 2: Oh damn, what is it called? The honeymoon period is on, 1576 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 2: and we went to fighting him and will continue to 1577 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 2: do so with anybody. Eric Adams, it doesn't matter who 1578 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 2: it is. Joe Biden has also been a recipient of 1579 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 2: US protesting being out there. I intended to continue to 1580 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,600 Speaker 2: do that with Vice Presid Harris, and we're gonna do 1581 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,600 Speaker 2: it under Donald Trump. The stakes are higher, the ability 1582 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:12,040 Speaker 2: for a Trump to target our community and target us specifically. 1583 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,800 Speaker 2: We already know that that is in fact a if 1584 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 2: no one wants to go box when you are X 1585 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,559 Speaker 2: amount of height and X amount of weight and you're 1586 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,040 Speaker 2: gonna go take on the heavyweight champion of the world, 1587 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,800 Speaker 2: knowing that that is not somebody who you actually have 1588 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 2: the ability to fight and win, that's stupid. 1589 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,640 Speaker 1: If you do that, something is wrong with you. 1590 01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 2: It And I'm not saying that you shouldn't take on 1591 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 2: big opponents, but for me, every single time we fight, 1592 01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,720 Speaker 2: if you're fighting against government officials and people in positions. 1593 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 1: Of power, it's a huge fight. 1594 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,799 Speaker 2: It is it is significant, but you can still choose 1595 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:57,519 Speaker 2: within something that is more likely for you to be 1596 01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,479 Speaker 2: able to win. And so that's what we all. It's said, 1597 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,200 Speaker 2: but we know we would have to fight anybody who is. 1598 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 1: In uh, you know, in in Washington. And it's not 1599 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,519 Speaker 1: just Washington. It's Washington. 1600 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 2: We're now here, it's in Kentucky, it's in Albany, New York. 1601 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,000 Speaker 1: It's in every single place. 1602 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:23,560 Speaker 2: Across this country where we as a people feel oppressed 1603 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 2: and feel that we are lacking the types of resources 1604 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 2: that we need in order to have successful communities. 1605 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 1: So it is what it is. 1606 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 3: Fight. 1607 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 4: We're gonna fight, and we ain't gonna never stop fighting. 1608 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 4: We're gonna keep on fighting and we're gonna fight, fight, 1609 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,559 Speaker 4: fight until then, Please, good night. 1610 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 3: Good night man. 1611 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:48,920 Speaker 4: Listen another episode of the Best podcast in America TM 1612 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 4: my partner in Crime. 1613 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:57,240 Speaker 3: I don't do crime, justice Crock. Well, we do justice, Crock. 1614 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:57,719 Speaker 3: I don't. 1615 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 2: I don't do just I don't do nothing any thing 1616 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 2: that has the word crime in it. 1617 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 5: I'm not. 1618 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't do crime. Hello, everybody out. 1619 01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 2: There, Tamika Mallory does not do crime. 1620 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,439 Speaker 1: That's all I We do justic. 1621 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,720 Speaker 4: Crime, justice, crime. But we want to thank y'all for 1622 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,200 Speaker 4: continue to support us. We want to think our guests, 1623 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:26,720 Speaker 4: you know, Representative Senator elect kran Shamika Parris right, our counselwoman, 1624 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:31,840 Speaker 4: and also attorney Leanita Baker for joining us. We appreciate y'all, 1625 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 4: We appreciate our fans for always supporting us. And I'm 1626 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,320 Speaker 4: not gonna always be right Tamika the marriages. I canna 1627 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:37,880 Speaker 4: always be wrong 1628 01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,480 Speaker 3: But we both always and I mean always, be authentic