1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: generation warfare. 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran. 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic. 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 4: Christ is King, Ladies and you all, and welcome on board. 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Today we have a very special edition of Human Events 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: Daily for you over here live in Washington, d C. Look, 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: we are here at General Flynn's New Media Summit. Today 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: is all about independent media. It's all about disrupting the narrative. 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: It's about getting the truth out. And we're so glad 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: that Real America's Voice Human Events Daily are able to 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: be here and to be a part of this great 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: summit because we're meeting with people from all across the 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: spectrum and in fact all across the world in ways 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: that the mainstream media just will not do. 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: This is the force multiplier. 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: This is how you can be a truth aggregator, how 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: you can actually get the facts, spread it out through 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: using social media, using independent networks like Real America's Voice 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: over the Top, and then going and telling that story. 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: Thank you very much, General Flyinn. So I just came 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 5: from a somewhat on the ending the persecution of Christians worldwide. 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 5: I think that's emblematic of where we stand today, is 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: that it's a real indictment on as says journalists, that 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 5: most of the world has no idea that for the 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 5: past twenty plus years, since the day of nine to eleven, 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 5: there has been a systematic, organized campaign to massacre Christians 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 5: across the isolated rural villages of Mildern, Nigeria. And when 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: it finally comes to light, what does Al Jazeera do 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 5: and all these other journalists, it can always denying that 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 5: it's true, And you're just like, I'm decided. So the 32 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 5: last five six years I spent and documenting one massor 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 5: after another. I mean, I was walking into dinner on 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 5: a Friday night. I got a picture of a seventeen 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 5: year old sixteen, seventeen year goal it was pregnant having 36 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: your head heck joke, while they had the body out 37 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 5: of the baby, out of his stomach. And you're gonna 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 5: sit there and tell me that this is something made 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: up by the right wing. Look, I just I cannot 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 5: come to you strongly enough and say that we are 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 5: in an absolute crisis of information. General fund and is 42 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 5: articulated this week. Give me seen a wonderful much missed 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 5: Spoon Cutler in his books at Generation Warfare, that is 44 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: the battle for our mind. But we are in battle 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: for our minds and our souls. And when you deny 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: that people are being murdered, you lose your soul. And 47 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 5: you know, I just I see understanding King, She's going 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: to be on the panelated today. But Angela is one 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 5: of the people that brought me to a basic truth 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 5: because she saves babies can abortion, and she talks about 51 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: saving children from murder. And I never thought about abortion 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 5: like that. And so what is so important about that 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 5: is we, as Johnius, have been derelict in our duty 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: to the truth and into pursuing the truth regardless of pusent. 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: How we've become instruments of propaganda and died blessed independent 56 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: media and the rise of independent media. But don't there's 57 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 5: a price for everything. There's a price for everything. So 58 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 5: it's when we dance on the graves of you know, 59 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 5: CNN in the New York Times, it shows. 60 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: How they deserve it. 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 5: We do we ask what fills the void? Because what 62 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 5: is filling the void? Now? You know what you don't 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 5: have when you lose your advertising revenue from big farmer, 64 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 5: and you lose the corporations, you lose first ten journalists. 65 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 5: I spent five years in Iraq. It's the chief foreign 66 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 5: first one of the CBS news that costs how many 67 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 5: millions millions of dollars? How many of the years work 68 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: independent media or out it can afford that. Now, it's 69 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 5: no use. If you're going to put people on the ground, 70 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: they're not going to tell the truth. So your buriors 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 5: met nothing. I'm not standing in defense of mainstream media. 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 5: I'm standing in defense of the principles of real journalism 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 5: and the reality that it takes money. It costs money 74 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 5: to do real journalism because money to travel, It costs 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 5: money to invest in time and in people, and that 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 5: investment is not happening. And you know, unless you're the 77 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 5: one in a million, I don't know. James does pray 78 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: well at it. He's relentless. He does nineteen thousand different 79 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 5: jobs at the same time, and somehow manages to run 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 5: his own organization. 81 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: Fight off or those lawsuits that you can amel. 82 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: The mantis has shoes quite frankly, and uh I still 83 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 5: manage his keeds of independents, and yet he's still got 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 5: to battle the right to even to call the journalists 85 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: because the New York the bray Lady deems him to 86 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 5: be a fire right activist. Paise plays you people long 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 5: in the trash durn of history, right, but they. 88 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 6: Don't hm. 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 7: H. 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 5: And I received this amazing woman Ava here who I 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 5: looked at, you know, I see her as a vision 92 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 5: of what I would like to remember myself as been 93 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 5: twenty years ago. 94 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: With that when I was younger in dinner and you. 95 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 8: Know, and uh and perfect because every time she chemes 96 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 8: out she just nails and she's brave and she but 97 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 8: what has Eva done, She has consistently, over time built 98 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 8: up a bank of knowledge. 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: There was a tongue in journalists had to be we 100 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 5: had to be historians and we had to be economists. 101 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 5: I study economics. I carry goat English as an extra major. 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 5: I did a Bachelor of Commerce story not because I 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 5: wanted to know anything about Carl Marks. God just guides me. 104 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 5: He's like, now I can't go there, you know, because 105 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 5: I have I have a shield of protection around. And 106 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: I had to force myself to go there because I 107 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 5: had to understand how money worked, because it was obviously 108 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: that money and power dry these things that you're seeing 109 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: when you're standing at the door of a motor and 110 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: you're seventeen years old and you're making frames with the 111 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 5: guy running it because you want to know how many 112 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: bodies there are inside, because it's not averring government. At 113 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: the time, when I was a young girl doing this reporting. 114 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 6: Life about all that. 115 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 5: So I learned the value of first hand reporting. And 116 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 5: that does not mean God bless them, I'm sorry showing 117 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 5: up in Aurora, Colorado with a small camera going around 118 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 5: asking people if they're a member of the cartel. I 119 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 5: mean that journalist, I'm sorry. Put them up against the wall, 120 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: shoot him in the head, and then teach them how 121 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: to be rare a journalism, because every person in that 122 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 5: building will be killed if they tell you that they're 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: a member of the cartel or that there's cartel there. 124 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 5: So that's not what I mean by firsthand journalist. 125 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 6: In our way and our golden age has just begun. 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: This is Human Events with Jack Posovia. Now it's time 127 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: for everyone to understand what America first truly means. 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 9: Welcome to the Second American. 129 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Revolution, all right, folks, Jack Zobech, We're back here. 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We have a saying in journalism that devil 172 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: let the facts get in the way of a good story. 173 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 5: Whenever you hear, oh that's a good story, I'm going 174 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 5: to do that, you start to investigate and what do 175 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: you find it crumbles? 176 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: And what did I learn? 177 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 5: Never be afraid to walk away, don't stick with it 178 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 5: because of belief or ideology or anything else. Journalists are 179 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: not lawyers. We are going to court and cherry peck 180 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: evidence to make a case. We're not advocates or campaign 181 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 5: on behalf of people. That's not our job. Our job 182 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 5: is to do everything we can to find not just 183 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: part of the truth, but the whole truth. Because something 184 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: can be true, but if you distort it and you 185 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: focus on it and you put that out by everything else, 186 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: you can still be as deceptive and misleading as the 187 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 5: people who lie blatantly. And it's not hard, it's not 188 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 5: easy defined the whole truth. These things take time. Beat 189 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 5: Reporting is value because you know why, because when it 190 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: cross and truly understands the subject, it's our value to 191 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: all of us. If I never understood I'm living in Iraq, 192 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 5: I don't know militias and Iraqi terrorists. I know the 193 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 5: government and your soldiers, I know people all across all 194 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 5: across the country. And yet somehow every you as ambassador 195 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 5: or state partner, official or military official or you know 196 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: why has official he came to the country. They wanted 197 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 5: to bring that antha from New York, but never spent 198 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: four and a half seconds in the country. And they 199 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 5: opened the rape. They opened the doors of the rag politics. 200 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: And you think, but why, And it's because they don't 201 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: want to sit down with someone who knows enough to 202 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: join them. They don't. They superficial is the death of 203 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: real journalism, and they use a superficial It's good in 204 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: a crisis. The rest of the time worthless. And when 205 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 5: journalists don't have resources behind them, what they do is superficial. 206 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: What idhaf with them commenting on things online? Superficial? Unfortunately, 207 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 5: you know, I don't want to do that, but we 208 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 5: have created a monster. Independent media has book our salvation 209 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 5: and also a monster. And if we don't guard it 210 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 5: and protect it and fight for it, and if we 211 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 5: don't recognize that there are real principles to real journalism 212 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 5: and separate that from opinion, which is completely valid opinion Jones, 213 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 5: there's always an opinion pages and newspapers. There's always room 214 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: for analysis when you take someone. But when you and 215 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 5: I hear people who are not lawyers, and I see 216 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 5: it judges and lawyers on TV took fee about nobody's 217 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: going to prison, but treason and tradition. And by the way, 218 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: there's a statute of limitations. I'm like, are you serious. 219 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: I'm not even a lawyer, and I know that's a lie. 220 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: Allowing people to get away with this nonsense is I 221 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 5: mean to me, it's the prevalent of being a co 222 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 5: conspirator in treason and sedition, and we have to hold 223 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 5: people accountable for that. You can't take the murderer that's 224 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 5: accused of serial being a serial killer and put him 225 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: up there as if he's an expert when he's talking about. 226 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: His own crimes. 227 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 5: Sure he's an expert because he's guilty. John Brannan, right, 228 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 5: I mean, it's insane. And to allow CBS News to 229 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: put a guy on there is the deputy head of 230 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: the CIA, and then he retires and then he goes up. 231 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 10: You're doing the biggest cover up of one of the 232 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 10: most damaging intelligence operations against this country and against this nation, 233 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 10: and you're allowing him to go out there like he's 234 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 10: some independent, neutral analyst. 235 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: It's just well informed. 236 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: It's an outrage, but they get away with it because 237 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: we allow them to get away. 238 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 6: With it fear and no evil. So it's hard to 239 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 6: know what that really means unless you've been through it. 240 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 6: You can watch the movies, read the books. I know 241 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 6: you've been through it. We were all sitting together at 242 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 6: the breakers and it was like everyone, oh vis been 243 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 6: raided by the Feds. But on a journalist, that's crazy. 244 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 6: It continues to be crazy. It's still crazy that if 245 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 6: another country did it, our State Department would be issuing 246 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 6: sanctions against that country. It's actually hopefully so there's that 247 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 6: part of it. So I've been asked to talk about 248 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 6: what independent media is and what my views are in 249 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 6: the current situation. I second again what you said about money. 250 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 6: I don't know if this is a controversial statement to make. 251 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 6: I don't know if the commercial imperative is compatible with 252 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 6: truth telling. I don't know if the commercial imperative is 253 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 6: compatible with investigative journalism. I mean, how many you know 254 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 6: you at sixty minutes? You watched your piece dozens of times, 255 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 6: where you aired it hundreds of times, and now everything's live. 256 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 6: I just started to do live myself. But there's something 257 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 6: missing in live. You don't package it. There's no who, what, none, 258 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 6: or why. There's no there's no concise, succinct presentation of 259 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,359 Speaker 6: the information. So as a result, our brains are everywhere. 260 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 6: There's no discipline and and the discipline of verification is 261 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 6: what separates propaganda from journalism. The discipline of verification is 262 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 6: what separates journalism from propaganda. And there is no verification 263 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 6: of anything. Why because the incentives is un aligned. The 264 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 6: incentives are to make money and to get clicks. But 265 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 6: and you say a lot of crazy shit because that's 266 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 6: what your audience wants to hear. That that's not the 267 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 6: truth though, so and I'm not going to give any examples, 268 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 6: but you I'm talking about its. People are just saying 269 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 6: crazies bulls because there's money in it. There's no money 270 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 6: in when I do. And when you look at the world, 271 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: which everyone does, because we all run organizations, whether they're 272 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 6: NGOs or corporations or sees even five one breeds which 273 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 6: are non for profit enterprises, you have a statement of 274 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 6: bad assets. You have assets, and you have something called 275 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 6: the flyability and guess what, my liabilities are always going 276 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 6: to exceed my assets. So that's a that's a very 277 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 6: difficult challenge. I will the second or other thing you said, 278 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 6: which is that you have to be You looked at 279 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 6: some of my Charlie Kirk, who Jack was extremely close to. 280 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 6: I didn't know as deeply, but I knew especially I 281 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 6: go aspired from Project aretas Charlie and I became very close. 282 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 6: Charlie was there for me when that happened and lifted 283 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 6: me up. And I mean, you have to you have 284 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 6: to be a uh you know if he wasn't an 285 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 6: investigative reporter, but he was an organization entrepreneur. 286 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 7: You have to be a good speaker. You have to 287 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 7: be a good fundraiser. You have to be a good 288 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 7: chief executive officer. You have to be a good entrepreneur. 289 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 7: You have to be not a hypocrite. You have to 290 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 7: be a good Christian. You have to be a good father. 291 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 7: You have to be a good husband. You have to 292 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 7: inspire people. You have to give good public presentation. 293 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 11: I mean, no one can do all these things, but 294 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 11: that's what you have to do to be an independent journalist. 295 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 11: If you lap any one of those things, you will fail, 296 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 11: in my opinion. And can they find someone else to 297 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 11: do what he does? I don't think so. I suppose 298 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 11: they can. 299 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 6: They can have a contest for you know, a couple 300 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 6: of young guys to go on campuses The problem is 301 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 6: you will not find the ethics. You will find the talent, 302 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 6: but you won't find the integrity. And the hardest thing 303 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 6: about what I do is to find people with the integrity. 304 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 6: It is. So it's such a cliche, isn't it ethics? 305 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 9: What does any mean? 306 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 6: It means that you have no price? Do you have 307 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 6: no price? It's such a hard thing to find. And 308 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 6: then to also find someone with the talent, forget about it. 309 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 6: One in one hundred million, not one in one hundred million. 310 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 6: So I think it's a problem that we have all 311 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: this opinion. I agree that you need opinion, but when 312 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 6: there's own opinion, it's toxic. It's it's it's radioactive people. 313 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 6: So so that's the bad news. Here's the big news 314 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 6: because I am I am an optimist for reasons. I 315 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 6: will tell you right now. I just this story last 316 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 6: week about saw it. But I went under cover and 317 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 6: I wore this ridiculous wig which was from Amazon. And 318 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 6: you might say, why we call them? How are they 319 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 6: not recognize you? Ok, you're you guys, you guys. You 320 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 6: literally said this walking in here. It's like, you don't 321 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 6: understand these people. They're not held accountable for anything. And 322 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 6: I was I did that intentionally. I did that intentionally. 323 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 6: Number one, I did it because you're so incompetent and corrupt. 324 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 6: I wanted to demonstrate that. And number two, I wanted 325 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 6: to show you that you can do it too. What's 326 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 6: your excuse? Because I get from every well I'm so 327 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 6: famous and tennessee you that I ever will always reconed, well, I'm. 328 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 11: James O'Keeffe and I still go undercover with the FEI 329 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 11: the State Department that people want and they. 330 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: Don't recognize me. So so when you have an excuse, 331 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 6: it better be good. Of course, when you actually go 332 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 6: into the psychology of it, it's just an It's an 333 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 6: excuse for their own inaction. 334 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 12: Thank you, Thank you Gene Finn for the invitation. For 335 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 12: those of you who don't know me, my name is 336 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 12: Eva Flaerdingerbru. Do not expect you to repeat that very 337 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 12: long Dutch last name. I'm absolute the honor to be 338 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 12: here and I'm listening as I'm listening to both of you, 339 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 12: to learrer into you. James, I once aware, am extremely 340 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 12: aware of how different our situation in Europe is. As 341 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 12: much as I love hear you guys talk about how 342 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 12: you should do better. 343 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: How you know you should work together. 344 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 5: Today? You know that you talk about influencers, These are 345 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 5: influences and. 346 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 6: They're friends of mine, Jack. 347 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: Down, you know you should work together? How there is 348 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: too much opinion. It's great you have so much standards, 349 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: so many standards for yourselves. But we in Europe, man, 350 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: we have a lot of work to do to even 351 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 3: get to that point. Still. I'm from the Netterlies, so 352 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm from a very. 353 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 12: Small country in Europe, and I'm sorry if I get 354 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 12: a bit technical here, but I'll just sketch out our 355 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 12: media landscape for you for a second so you understand 356 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 12: our situation. We don't have not even one media outlet 357 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 12: that pretends to be right way, not one. 358 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: So there's no there's no Fox News right. We don't 359 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: have institutional media. 360 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 12: We don't have legacy media that even pretend to represent 361 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 12: their rights from the center. 362 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't exist. 363 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 12: So go figure what our legacy media landscape looks like, 364 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 12: and then think about how important gover is its independent 365 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 12: media voices in our countries really is. And that process 366 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 12: is also going way too slow because we don't have 367 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 12: a Lara, we don't have. 368 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: A James Lokif we don't have a Jack kosloviec. 369 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 12: If we did, the situation wouldn't be as gyer as 370 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 12: the one that we are in today. And now I personally, 371 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 12: I'm on X and I'm on Instagram, and it's finny 372 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 12: because listening to you guys, I realized that I have 373 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 12: never called myself a journalist. I haven't ever called myself 374 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 12: a journalist because I never called a journalist by the 375 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 12: people who call themselves journalists. Even though I think, I 376 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 12: hope I have more projectives purporting and I do more 377 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 12: abductive reporting than they ever will. I also think that 378 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 12: at this point I might have more reach an influence 379 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 12: than they combined do, especially online yext Again, I call 380 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 12: myself a political commentator because I do openly voice my 381 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 12: opinions instead, you know, i'd actually do when I acknowledge that, 382 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 12: I say, look, this is my analysis of the situation, 383 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 12: and my analysis of the situation in Europe is is 384 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 12: that we are heading for other and total destruction. Europe 385 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 12: as we know it and Europe as we have known 386 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 12: it for centuries on end. 387 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: Is coming to a rapid end. 388 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 12: We look at mass migation, that's one of the subjects 389 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 12: that I focus most on in my recording because it 390 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 12: is under reported. 391 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: The statistics are. 392 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 12: Skewed, the consequences of mass migration, impoverishments culture of the case, 393 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 12: they're lied about, they're hidden, even though we can all 394 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 12: tell with our own eyes. 395 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 3: Those are the things that I try to bring to. 396 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 12: The forefront, and of course that requires opinion, that requires 397 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 12: saying this is not good, even though you think that 398 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 12: it's obvious for everyone, but it's not. 399 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: And the problem that we face in Europe, of course, 400 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: is that we have. 401 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 12: Many different cultural identities, We have many different languages, many 402 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 12: different countries. As something that we cherish, that's something that 403 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 12: we're proud of, but it makes working together and it 404 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 12: makes pointing out the similar issues that we are dealing 405 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 12: with difficult. When it comes to these types of cases, 406 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 12: the rates that assaults, the murders that you are hearing 407 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 12: about in Europe as a result of mass immigration, they're 408 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 12: happening on a daily basis, but they are not collected 409 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 12: by the legacid media. 410 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: They are not even rigging about. 411 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 12: And so what I try to do is highlight as 412 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 12: often as I can what is happening. And I truly 413 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 12: feel like a broken record talking about these cases day 414 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 12: in day out. Rape of the sixteen year old get 415 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 12: a girl there, murder of a seventeen year old boy. 416 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 12: There even just bad assaults, right, They usually don't even 417 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 12: get published. 418 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: So I try to focus on that. I try to 419 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 3: give these people names. 420 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 12: I try to let people look, this is the Senate issue, 421 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 12: this is not incidental, and this is all by design. 422 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: Because we are still at that point. 423 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 12: We are still at the point where I have to 424 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 12: tell people that over and over again, and so this 425 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 12: is for us. I think one of the biggest challenges 426 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 12: when it comes to independent media is that we of 427 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 12: course we unite, but we also have to fight BAF 428 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 12: against the institutions that try to silence us. Because again, 429 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 12: let me allow me to go back to my small 430 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 12: for a moment. The Netherlands, we don't have freedom of 431 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 12: speech the way that you do. 432 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: We don't have a first amendment and sure is health 433 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: don't have a second amendment. 434 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 12: We have criminal codes that make it illegal to offend groups. 435 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 12: So if I say something that is offensive to a group, 436 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 12: which is weird, right is how do you offend the group? 437 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 12: How can a judge the side on behalf of a 438 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 12: group that they are. 439 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: All collectively offended. Well, they do it. 440 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 12: They do it on the basis of course of sex, 441 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 12: they do it on the basis of race, they do 442 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 12: it on the basis of sexual preference, religion, and people 443 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 12: actually get convicted for those types of hate crimes or 444 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 12: hate speech. 445 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: And so, speaking. 446 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 12: About the cases that I just mentioned to you, the rapes, 447 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 12: the assaults, the connection between mass immigration and crime, the 448 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 12: sacrificing of our children on the altar of mass migration, 449 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 12: that is and can be qualified as illegal age speech 450 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 12: and you can get sent to. 451 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: Jill for it. That's our situation. So MA to tie 452 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: this all back to independent media. 453 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 12: Without X, which is the platform that I use most, 454 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 12: we wouldn't even hear about half of these stories. 455 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: Have this even an optimistic estimate, I would say. So 456 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: that's where we are, the independent aerias of Europe or 457 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: own X. 458 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 12: That's the only place where we can voice our opinions 459 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 12: somewhat safely. 460 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: But even X is. 461 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 12: Being targeted by the European Union with the Digital Services Act. 462 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to bore you with all of. 463 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 12: The desinesses that, but it's his censorship Act, and it's 464 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 12: a censorship act that is now official law. 465 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: In all your gey countries. 466 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 12: Designed by unelected bureaucrats. We don't have sovereignty. 467 00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: We are. 468 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 12: Democracy is an illusion, it does not function. A supernational 469 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 12: organization decides for us what our laws are and what 470 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 12: we are allowed and not allowed to say. So, once again, 471 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 12: once instilling you the urgency of the situation in your 472 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 12: how much you do look to you in America, and 473 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 12: how much we need your help to get this message 474 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 12: out there because we're fighting many monsters at the same time. 475 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 12: That's why I'm very thank you to be here. Thank 476 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 12: you so much. 477 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 10: So. 478 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 9: A couple of weeks ago, I went on CNN for 479 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 9: the first time, and I never thought it'd being in 480 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 9: a situation where CNN would be ever allowing you to 481 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 9: get a certain to talk about me en often all 482 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 9: of us and Jack, Where's Jack? 483 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: Where's Jack? 484 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 13: Where is it Jack? I want to see you. 485 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 12: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do. 486 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 6: You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking 487 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 6: about the. 488 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 13: Fake news and the band, but we have guys, and 489 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 13: these are the guys should be getting POLICIESKI. 490 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 9: Never thought I had the opportunity to be on and 491 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 9: of course it was in the wake of Charlie's murder 492 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 9: and the reporter field journalist who came on, not one 493 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 9: of the anchors shoot fines well defined by the way, 494 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 9: and there was a question that they asked me. And 495 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 9: you know, when you go into one of these these 496 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 9: interviews with anyone, with any outlet, with any journalism platform, 497 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 9: you have to think, well, who am I speaking to? Right, 498 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 9: because all of the audiences are bifurcated now and trifurcated 499 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 9: and quadracated, because there's no one single mino culture of mind, 500 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 9: no audience like like Laura, when you were on CBS, 501 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 9: you could you know, sixty minutes used to set the 502 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 9: tone for everyone. It was the nation's leader in terms 503 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 9: of the stories, in terms of news, but now it's 504 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 9: all totally separate. Who you listen to determines your worldview, 505 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 9: determines your views, and so you may hate your neighbors 506 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 9: even though they might look like you, that might sound 507 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 9: like you. They they they may go to the same 508 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 9: schools that you do, they shop at the same places 509 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 9: that you do, but you completely hate them because you 510 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 9: listen to a different form of media and you take 511 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 9: your worldview from them. 512 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 14: Of course, you're not talking about any of the missener 513 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 14: I'm talking about the other side. But so I know 514 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 14: this is going out to see and audience, which is 515 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 14: a different for people when I usually speak to But 516 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 14: you know, I've always don't got to think about at 517 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 14: the time, but I'm sure that I'll be probably not 518 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 14: going to be invited back. 519 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 9: And I had a question about. 520 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 6: This, and this is because two days actory shop talk 521 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: and they they. 522 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 9: Asked me a question. We're in the turning point, as 523 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 9: I say, building. This is the first time I've been 524 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 9: back to the building since char was murdered. And my 525 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 9: wife was, you know, sitting as as she's right there 526 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 9: by the tiny say is here today in support and 527 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 9: thank you for being here drawn and they said, are 528 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 9: we in a civil war? Are we headed for a 529 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 9: civil war? And there was a real question, and I 530 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 9: think there was a question at the time of you know, 531 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 9: will this political violence beget more political violence? And will 532 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 9: this historic cyple that we've seen a download cycle, which 533 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 9: is extremely dangerous, will it play out again? Is it 534 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 9: playing out again right before our eyes? And I looked 535 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 9: at her and I said, we are seeing asymmetric civil 536 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 9: warfare breaking out across the country. And if you don't 537 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 9: believe me. Go ask my friend, because he's in a 538 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 9: box right now for speaking truth. 539 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 15: Charlie Kirk wasn't murdered because he lied. Charlie Kirk was 540 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 15: murdered because he told the truth, and he told the 541 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 15: truth the people that never would have otherwise heard it. 542 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 9: And because they couldn't beat him in debate, because they 543 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 9: couldn't beat him on the facts, because they couldn't beat 544 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 9: him in terms of his reach, which was growing exponentially. 545 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 9: Every single that they tried to silence there, well, let 546 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 9: me play you far they fire. 547 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 16: They absolutely failed because of. 548 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 9: All the people in this room, because all the people 549 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 9: who saw what happened, because of thousands upon thousands students 550 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 9: and young people, new generations of Gen D and even 551 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 9: Jen Alpha, if he can break it or not, that 552 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 9: saw what happened, are never going to forget the murder 553 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 9: of Charlie Kirk. Were going out there. 554 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 16: Into the modern public swear, then what could be more 555 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 16: of the modern public swear and going onto a Polish 556 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 16: champers and debating all of these issues in public, and 557 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 16: I thought something that was really interesting day. 558 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 9: After. It just occurred to me recently because so I 559 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 9: also in addition to working referning I work with post 560 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 9: millennial humid Events, and our editor in gig Lebimons is 561 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 9: also here with us, and she does an incredible job 562 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 9: every single day working independent media to do the verification, 563 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 9: to do the truth, to make sure that everything that 564 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 9: gets put out is true. And of course the media 565 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 9: is very upset with us because not only do we 566 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 9: have White House passes now, but we are now part 567 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 9: of the new Pentagon Press Corps because they they didn't 568 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 9: want to follow the rules, so we had now replaced 569 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 9: the legacy media inside the Pentagon. And the New York 570 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 9: Times asked me yesterday, they said, you know, how are 571 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 9: you going to report? And I said, well, I'm going 572 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 9: to tell the truth. And I know that's say you're 573 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 9: radical for you guys here, but we're just going to 574 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 9: tell the truth about what's actually going on in our government, 575 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 9: in the military, in the national security basin everywhere, the 576 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 9: same way we do every single day and the name 577 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 9: way we always have. But one of the one of 578 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 9: the things that was kind of existentially and interesting for 579 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 9: us is that we're in this situation now where we're 580 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 9: we're doing our job every day and try to report 581 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 9: the news, tell people what's going on. Tell the truth. 582 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 9: But in this case, our colleague, our friend are the 583 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 9: leader of turning point is his death is a murder. 584 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 9: It's the news, and we're following the case. We're following 585 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 9: all of the updates. And there was this buried line 586 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 9: that came out I think it was on last Friday 587 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 9: in one of the filings. And I'm not going to 588 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 9: get through technical but this will, this will illustrate I 589 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 9: think we're all talking about here. 590 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 17: The lawyers for Tyler Robinson, the suspect, dates just put 591 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 17: up client and say they want to dan hanros from 592 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 17: the courtroom in the. 593 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 9: Charlie Kirk murder phase. And I thought about this, and 594 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 9: they said, well, we have we have to do it 595 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 9: because of privacy. So we have to do it because 596 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 9: of privacy. And I have an obviously emotional reaction to this, 597 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 9: but I thought about the issue right, the right to 598 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 9: privacist This is a right right, This is a right 599 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 9: that we want in a free society. 600 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 6: But then Libyavan wrote song I want to just put a. 601 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 9: Spot back on her per second, because it was so 602 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 9: beautiful what she wrote. She said Charlie Kirk didn't have 603 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 9: a say in whether or not his murder would be 604 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 9: public only his. 605 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 17: Assassin had to say in that and therefore Charlie Kirk's 606 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 17: try or if it's a trial of the murder of 607 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 17: Charlie Kirk, should also be done in public the same 608 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 17: way that his murder was. 609 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 9: So Human Events just file a submission with that portven 610 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 9: Utah completely opposing this ban and saying that we're going 611 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 9: to calm down and oppose this. We're going to get 612 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 9: lawyers involved if we have to, to make sure that 613 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 9: everyone has a full, open and accounting of the situation, 614 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 9: every single piece of evidence. And we got human Events, 615 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 9: the postponial. I'm happy to announce. Court TB just came 616 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 9: in and is also supporting the effort now and so 617 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 9: this is growing. It's going to continue grow. 618 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 16: Because the public has a right to know. The public has. 619 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 9: A right to know everything and this and I thought 620 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 9: about this, and I said, you know what, this is 621 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 9: the difference between a. 622 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: Free society and a closed society. And ava the society 623 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: that you're talking about, that's it doesn't sound very free, 624 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: it doesn't sound very open at all. 625 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 9: And the difference is because when you say you have 626 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 9: a courtroom in your fortkoa you have your you have 627 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 9: your lawyer, you have your boss, computer, you have your 628 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 9: your thanks, you have the judge. But when you have 629 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 9: cameras rolling and you have the doors open, and even 630 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 9: here in Federal Court today, and as as General Flynn knows, 631 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 9: the that reportment does have the ability to members of 632 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 9: the public tutto an attend. This is one of our 633 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 9: oldest traditions and it is one of our best traditions, 634 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 9: that justice should be done in public, justice should be 635 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 9: done before the people. And if you have something to 636 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 9: tell that you shouldn't be able to hide it. You 637 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 9: should put it out because that is a check on 638 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 9: the entire system by the people in a free society. 639 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 9: And this very transparency is the line, it's the absolute 640 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 9: line that you draw between a free society and it's 641 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 9: apolitarian society. Because a free in a free society, who 642 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 9: has the power the people? The people have the power, 643 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 9: and the people had a right to know. And all 644 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 9: of these issues tome in to bear there because you think, 645 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 9: of course the public has a right to know. Of 646 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 9: course the public should have a check from the system, 647 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 9: because the public ultimately ultimately is the backstop every single 648 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 9: system of media, a power journalists, government of corporate power 649 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 9: in the entire world. 650 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 18: You hoard nothing without the people. Those are the people 651 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 18: who should be empowered. And if we are going to 652 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 18: be truth tellers, and if we are going to continue 653 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 18: to fight for the legacy of Charlie Kirk, then we 654 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 18: have to do the same thing that he always did, 655 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 18: empower people, share the information with people, share truth with people, 656 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 18: share his platform with people like he did every single day. 657 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 9: He allowed me even onto his platform for some reason, 658 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 9: and he would allow all of us, all of us 659 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 9: would go to Turning Point events and be up there 660 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 9: and you know, James would have these elaborate musical performances. 661 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 9: But it was multimedia and pushed the boundaries and interact 662 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 9: with people in ways that he never call it possible. 663 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 6: That's what Charlie was all about. 664 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 9: And another piece that I think that I've come to 665 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 9: I've come to appreciate a little bit more, was that 666 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 9: Charlie never lost sight even the rise of digital, even 667 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 9: in the rise of social media, and of course Charlie 668 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 9: was on every social media, dominated every single platform he 669 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 9: ever even thought about. He never lost sight of trying 670 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 9: to connect with people in person, in the physical space. 671 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 9: On those campuses, and when he would bring someone up 672 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 9: to the front, and he would always say this, And 673 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 9: we saw JD and Erica were down at University of Mississippi, 674 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 9: Old Miss last night. Ten thousand people came out last night. 675 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 9: By the way, we had seven thousand in Montana, we 676 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 9: had Nebraska, we had Indiana, thousands upon thousands, biggest events 677 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 9: we've ever had. 678 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 4: But Charlie, we can't care about the numbers. 679 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 9: If there was someone in front of him, he would 680 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 9: care about that person, and for that moment he would 681 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 9: even tell people say, hey, hey, don't hackle, don't cut 682 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 9: them off, don't yell. I want to connect with this 683 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 9: person individually, in real life, not through a screen. 684 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 6: Jack is a great guy. 685 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 9: He's written at Fantastic Book and everybody's talking about it. 686 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 9: Go get it. 687 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 14: And he's spent my friend right from the beginning of 688 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 14: this whole beautiful event, and we're going to turn her 689 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 14: around and make our. 690 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 9: Country way to get him. And I think in so 691 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 9: many ways, this is the this is the negative side 692 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 9: right of independent media and social media, because when we 693 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 9: do things through the virtual space, when we do things 694 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 9: on these little pieces of flash that we carry around 695 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 9: our hands in our pockets. Every day we lose the 696 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 9: eye to the fact that there's a real person on 697 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 9: the other side, right, but before AI takes over, of course, 698 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 9: and that a person who Shaw Charlie Kirk. Didn't think 699 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 9: of Charlie Kirk as a real person. This was this was. 700 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 19: Someone and you know assuming that this, yeah, it is 701 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 19: as correct and this is this aspect. This is someone 702 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 19: who when you look at how this associated this young 703 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 19: man was Burger forgave and an incredible act of Christian charity. 704 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 9: Look at how disassociated he was from reality. He was 705 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 9: someone who was involved guests in a transsexual relationship with 706 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 9: a man. He is someone who was involved with extreme pornography, 707 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 9: which included, by the way, transhumanist porography, where he was 708 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 9: watching simulators that allowed him to pretend he was a 709 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 9: furry and so he would he would participate as it 710 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 9: is sort of half annual, half human hybrid for performing 711 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 9: extreme sexual ASTs on other furries. And this was a 712 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 9: game that he played in this eretime. So total disassociation 713 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 9: with reality and for throwing him Dolf into this internet 714 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 9: based personality. This is a real threat. This is one 715 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 9: of the biggest threads of our time is that if 716 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 9: we forget about the real world. We forget about reality, 717 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 9: if we forget about truth, if we forget about meeting 718 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 9: one another as an individual, and totally throw our ourselves 719 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 9: into these Internet based identities, which are false identities, which 720 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 9: are not godly ordained identities, which are not identities that 721 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 9: are provided to us by our creator. Then that is 722 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 9: where the devil will steep in. That is where the 723 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 9: demonic will seep in. And that is the trap, and 724 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 9: that is the biggest trap of all. And that's why 725 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 9: I realized that Charlie focused so much on bringing people 726 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 9: back to the physical space and bringing people together and 727 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 9: on all end with this that I realized too that 728 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 9: in because of what Bleby wrote, the fact that Charlie 729 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 9: was murdered on live stream, think about. 730 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 6: That it wasn't just an attack on Charlie. 731 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 9: It wasn't just an attack on Western culture and Western civilization. 732 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 9: It was even an attack on independent media, the fact 733 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 9: and everyone who consumes it. Because if you were watching 734 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 9: that live stream, and I don't even have to ask 735 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 9: first of you know, you know, people to raise their hands. 736 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 9: I know you've all seen the video. I know you've 737 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 9: all seen it, and I know that Charlie's kids will 738 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 9: see it one day, little girl and this little boy. 739 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 9: We're so young if no idea what's going on. It's 740 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 9: an attack on us, and it was designed to be 741 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 9: an attack on us through social media. So we need 742 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 9: to become wary as well when we are consuming this, 743 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 9: that these are new attack vectors on all of us 744 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 9: that we need to build not just physical defenses of, 745 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 9: but psychological and spiritual defenses of as well. And that's 746 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 9: why everything that Charlie did and what we're trying to 747 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 9: do even more and more, is to put God at 748 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 9: the center of every single thing that we do, because 749 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 9: nothing that comes from God can be bad, and everything 750 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 9: that comes from Satan is. 751 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 13: Wow, unbelievable. Earlier, and you guys weren't here, I listed 752 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 13: off a group of character traits of what I felt 753 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 13: from these people that I have gotten to know over 754 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 13: in many years. And one of them has to do 755 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 13: a courage and passion. And you saw that up here, 756 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 13: you know, and I know that the deal of a 757 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,240 Speaker 13: couple other people, but those that have already spoken today. 758 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 13: But this idea of unifying, you know, under some umbrella, right, 759 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 13: and and really the umbrella is our ability to be 760 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 13: able to speak freely about what we want, what we 761 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 13: believe in right, our country, our faith, right, the freedoms 762 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 13: that we that we cherished, that many many have sacrificed for. 763 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 13: But one of the things in uh Lara is actually 764 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 13: there's a reason why I'm up here today and we're 765 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 13: here today because her and I a couple of years ago. 766 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 6: She and uh shellably didn't remember the conversation, but I do. 767 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 13: We talk about figuring out how do we how do 768 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 13: we grasp what has happened in the world of the media. 769 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 13: And we had a long conversation about the Ashton d 770 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 13: C Correspondent Bureau and you know, the failure of that organization, 771 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 13: Frank and because they've given up the truth and uh 772 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 13: and so the main the main points and they just 773 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 13: talked about it is it's to be truthful, be accurate, 774 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 13: and be responsible. I mean, if you think about that 775 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 13: for yourself, right, you stud commons sent so uh, you know, 776 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 13: I know, everybody get busy lives here. I particularly appreciate 777 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 13: you guys being here and being part of this and 778 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 13: doing what you're doing, because what you're seeing is this 779 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 13: is a this is a tectonic shift in the world of. 780 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 9: Information. 781 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 13: Okay, and that's a world that I am very familiar with. 782 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 13: We are going through this very very historic move that 783 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 13: is that is causing the world to go in a 784 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 13: different direction. And Jack and you haven't We're not really 785 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 13: gonna talk too much about it today. That'll be something 786 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 13: down the road. Is artificial intelligence. And you highlighted a 787 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 13: little bit in the world of artificial intelligence, right, I mean, 788 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 13: and and so that's another aspect of being able to 789 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 13: discern you know, use the word. We've heard the word 790 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 13: discernment and Larry used it as well. This idea about 791 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 13: the storming, which is take it to me just I 792 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 13: just take it as take a deep breath, take a 793 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 13: step back, you know, understand what it is that you're 794 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 13: hearing and seeing. What is it that are you know, 795 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 13: what values you have that kind of will synthesize all 796 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 13: that information together and then respond, right instead of like 797 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 13: you were talking about, we're very sort of fluid online. 798 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 13: Sometimes we repost things, you know, we do things that 799 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 13: are you know, they're just to make us feel good. 800 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 13: But but actually we are going to face trials here, right, 801 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 13: We're going to face trials here. I know in our country, 802 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 13: we're going to face trials here in the in the 803 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 13: coming weeks, coming months. 804 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 9: We don't know. 805 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 13: And uh, but when we do, it's this body because 806 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 13: the other side of what we're facing is whatever talked 807 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 13: about and and what we heard early you're you know 808 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 13: from Ukraine. I mean, the other side of what we're 809 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 13: talking about. It doesn't exist. Freedom doesn't exist, right, And 810 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 13: I've done all over the world. I'm telling you there's 811 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 13: no Actually i'd sell pastors. I tell pastors, look, you 812 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 13: ought to be talking about politics in our country from 813 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 13: the pulpit because the only reason you can talk from 814 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 13: the pulpit about your religion is because it's something called 815 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 13: the constitution, So you can't, you know, like, let's get 816 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 13: with it. 817 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 4: No. 818 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 13: So I know there's little things and Trump actually gives 819 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 13: us all favor with the you know, kind of minimizing 820 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 13: the Johnson Acts. So that's awful. But you know, I 821 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 13: haven't talked about it, and and Don talked about it 822 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 13: with what's what rority in the United Kingdom, you know, 823 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 13: in the evidence Italy, I mean it across the across 824 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 13: the world, Ukraine and trying to figure out because things 825 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 13: happen and now all of a sudden, you know they 826 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 13: begin to happen here. I don't know where we're gonna 827 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 13: end up. I know where we're going to end up. 828 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 13: But without fighters, we're out courageous fighters. And that's kind 829 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 13: of you know, all of you that are in this space, right, 830 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 13: It's courage, his passion, it's entrepreneurial spirit, it's having that right, 831 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 13: it's doing the right thing. And I forget which one 832 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 13: of you talked about, Oh changed it very very powerful. 833 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 13: We did he catch it? You know? He basically said 834 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 13: Tom twenty three, right, yay, that I walk through the 835 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 13: valley of the shadow of depth, I will fear no evil. 836 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 17: For thou art riten, right. 837 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 13: I mean, I've said this support and I'm stealing a 838 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 13: little bit of time here this country. I used to 839 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 13: talk and I'm doing it for the last number of years, 840 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 13: so I've lived it. We're not on the precipice. We 841 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 13: are in the valley of the shadow of depth. And 842 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 13: the way I described it as I say, we have 843 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 13: two choices, that's it, not fifty choices, yep. 844 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 4: Two. 845 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 13: One you can sell your soul, Okay, you can go 846 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 13: for the right light, shiny thing right, or you can 847 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 13: take the very difficult path which is a very dim 848 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 13: light and it's a long. 849 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 2: Journey out of that. 850 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 13: It's about it, okay, And I'm getting chillsy because I 851 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 13: have been. And when you think about just these four, 852 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 13: and of course you know others that we've had here 853 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 13: represented already and some of you, but these are people 854 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 13: who have been in that valley and it's like, you know, 855 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 13: like my mother would say, get off your knees and 856 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 13: get out there, go do something right. And so these 857 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 13: are people that are warriors, fighters in that valley. And 858 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 13: I am so grateful for you guys for taking the 859 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 13: time and just being here right and everything that you're 860 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 13: doing for goats bringing our question 861 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 9: And remember we're winning, they are losing.