1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: All right, it's another episode of splash hit Territory. Susan Slusser, 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: a frequent contributor from The Chronicle, joins us today, Susan, 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: don't put that thing up. It blocks my face and 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: we can't block this face. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Come on, Well, maybe maybe you would if you didn't 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: have to show your jersey with your name. But stuff 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: we could like, like my head and then something could 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: fit underneath it. 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: Well, I have a giant jersey. You have a painting 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: of houses on a street. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: So my mom this one that's a street in San Francisco. 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: My mom grew up on and she faded that LP. 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: I like that. 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Well, my jersey's up because that's Willie Mays's autograph there 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: the last game at Candlestick Park, So I thought that 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: was pretty. 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Cool, cooler than you know, my late mom. 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Giants need to channel some Willy Mays right now or 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: any other giant that's played for this organization. That was 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: a great because things haven't started well and seven. 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: On the season. 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: They dropped three out of four to the Mets yesterday. 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot to talk about. Tony Vtelo got ejected. 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: There was some plays that are questionable. It's only ten games, 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: and I'm going to stick to that. I'm not going 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: to freak out yet. But in the Tony Vitello era, 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: with all the off season hoopla, this really couldn't have 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: started any worse. 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: But there's a long way to go. What one hundred and. 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: Fifty two games left in the season, so a long 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: way to go. But there's a lot to talk about 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: from the series, and especially yesterday, I think, and I'll 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: let you go first and then I'll chime in after. 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, I'm with you on the ten games. 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 2: Although I said that on social media yesterday and Giants 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: fans were all over me for seeing it, for saying it. 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's just ten days. And their argument is, 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: and I do get this, that it's been many years 39 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: of seeing a lot of the same and that you know, 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: some people were like, not many major changes. I would 41 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: argue by Tello massive change trading for Devers last year. 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: It's there haven't been attempts to shake things in up 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: bring in like a huge bat. But I do get 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: that overall, the results have not been what fans want. 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: This is a demanding fan base. They got used to 46 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: winning titles. They want to see the team back in 47 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: contention one hundred percent. I do get that, but ten games. 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: You know, the Dodgers had that one awful stretch last year, 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: right and people were panicking there they were fine, So 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, I would like to give what's your 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: kind of your range FP for how long you you 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: kind of wait before you really feel like a team's 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: in trouble or needs to make moves? When do you 54 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: kind of know? 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: I think the forty game markers what I was taught. 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: When you get to forty games, you are what you are. 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: I always say six weeks, yeah, yeah, and you know 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: that could change too. 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: That's not like a hard and fast rule. 60 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: And the schedule was difficult, and we talked about that 61 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: a lot right the gate and how you had to 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: be ready to play this tough schedule, this tough stretch 63 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: they have. That said, I don't think it's the three 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: and seven that's the concern. I think it's how they've 65 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: gotten to three and seven, where you know, I've talked 66 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: a lot on this podcast of being in Scottsdale and 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: seeing the high intensity workouts and the emphasis on fundamentals, 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: the emphasis on base runney, he's the emphasis on defense. 69 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: You know, I think I talked for ten minutes one 70 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: day about how they took infield at full speed and 71 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I thought this would translate, well, they haven't seen the 72 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: immediate results, but. 73 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: This has been sloppy play. 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: There's a big concern for me at first base right 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: now because even though you could say, well Chapman hasn't 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: made the greatest throws and a Damas hasn't made the 77 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: greatest throws, in my experience, is a good first baseman 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: picks you up and it obviously you're going to him 79 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: in the chest a lot, but those throws where you're 80 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: diving on the ground and you don't have time to 81 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: get a good grip, like a good first basement picks 82 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: you and picks you up. And whether it's been Casey 83 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Schmidt or Jeraran Karnassion and yesterday Devers on the great 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: play by Chapman, there just hasn't been a lot of 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: help at first base. And if I'm being honest, this 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: is the big leagues. This isn't like you know, you 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: hope your first baseman could do that. You should expect 88 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: your first baseman to pick you up as an infielder, 89 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: so you know that combined with Incarnacion watching the double 90 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: yesterday maybe and had a weird route to first base 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: and had to turn it on and got thrown out. 92 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Or Chapman stealing second down by three, which is to 93 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: me a frustration play based on how his season has 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: gone so far and he wanted to make something happen. 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: So all of these things. It's not the three and seven. 96 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: It's you know, they're averaging two point six runs a game, 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: and if your offense is scoring, devers things blocking my 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: face again, if the offense susan if the offense is scoring, 99 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: I'll let the Yankees. The Yankees have a lot of 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: deficiencies on the bases and on defense, but they're scoring 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: five or six runs a game and they have in 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: the past, so that makes up for a lot of 103 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: your deficiencies. If your offense, say scores four runs yesterday 104 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: instead of two, where you're not. 105 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: Living on the edge. So in my mind, you have 106 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: to tighten it up. 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: The players have to look at themselves in the mirror 108 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: and say, we have to play a better branded baseball, 109 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: and the offense has to do what the offense was 110 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: meant to do, like put four or five or six 111 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: runs up there where every decision the manager makes and 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: every pitch and every ground ball isn't life or death 113 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: or every mistake isn't just crazy magnified right now. So 114 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: to me, that's on the offense, and it's on the 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: guys in the dugout to say, like, look, we're better 116 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: than this. Look at your back of your baseball cards, 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: look at your career, and we can be better than this, 118 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: I would say, and I'll let you talk here in 119 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: a sex Susan. If this was a ten game like 120 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: little window in the middle of the season, we'd be like, 121 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: oh man, they're struggling right now. But when it's out 122 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: of the gate and there's been expectations they're so high 123 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: from the players, the coaches, the front office, the fan base, us, 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: it's just all really magnified right now. 125 00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 126 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: I was kind of joke with one of my editors yesterday, like, 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: is there any way we could kind of go back 128 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: and spike all of those already published articles that is 129 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: fed all Springs say in the offense is going to 130 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: be so much better because we haven't seen it. Look, 131 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously just joking, this offense should be better. 132 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: You know, they on paper when you add a rise. 133 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: But Baiter's should be a little bit of an upgrade, 134 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: a little bit more of a regular everyday lineup situation. 135 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: But you're right, I think you've hit the nail on 136 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: the head a little bit with some of the leadership 137 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: so far. And I'm not talking about Tony Vaytella. We 138 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: all know it would there would be some learning curve 139 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: with Tony Vytela. We can talk about that in a 140 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: little bit. But the leaders on the team, Chapman, adamis, 141 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: these are the guys that have to make a difference 142 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: in the clubhouse in pulling this team out of this 143 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: and offensive funks can be difficult to get. You know, 144 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: the whole hitting is contagious thing that is real, and 145 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: nobody besides Luisa and a little bit in Carnacione, who's 146 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: only played a handful of games, they're the only ones 147 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: who've been kind of consistently even getting on base. It's 148 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: the mistakes that's where the leadership comes in. And look, fans, 149 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: I think didn't know how to take Chapman calling out 150 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: Casey Schmidt on the mound in a profane way in 151 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: San Diego when Casey wasn't making the plays at first. 152 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: We understand he's fiery you know, I definitely give him 153 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: a pass for that. Things like that happened, But then 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: Chapman makes, you know, some errors, and some of it 155 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: is yes that the first basement aren't getting the throws 156 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: on some spectacular plays. He gets to more balls than 157 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: just about anybody, and sometimes his errors are a result 158 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: of that, which is a little unfair, but that's how 159 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: it works, and he knows that. But at the same time, 160 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: when you make some errors, it's kind of a tough 161 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: look to also be calling out a teammate, and I 162 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: think that fans are kind of seeing that. Last night, 163 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: the tempted steal getting thrown out in the ninth inning 164 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: with Devors up and the team down three made, I mean, 165 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: absolutely no sense. But he wasn't in the clubhouse afterwards 166 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: to talk about it, which I think. You know, when 167 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: you've had a tough game, your team has had a 168 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: tough game, and you make a mistake like that late, 169 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: you probably should be there. You know, I'm not saying 170 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: that on behalf of sort of reporters like we deserve it. 171 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: I think the fans want it now. And I had 172 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: a lot of people asking me what was he thinking? 173 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: What did I Bitello say? If I Tello wasn't in 174 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: the dugout and he didn't ask Chapman and we didn't 175 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: get to ask Chapman, that's not like him. He's one 176 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: of the best base runners I have ever seen. If 177 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: you wanted to show a kid videos of a great 178 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: baserunner and how to do things correctly, Chapman would be 179 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: one of the first names that springs to my mind 180 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: just completely unlike him. But at the same time, that 181 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: kind of indicates that this team is either pressing or 182 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: you know, just not like like you're not thinking. If 183 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: you're doing something like that, that to me was just 184 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: so strange, and maybe that's kind of where they are. 185 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: It's the leadership in that clubhouse that needs to pull 186 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: them out of this. If it's a mental funk or 187 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: trying to you know, as if I tell us says 188 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: the try hard thing, I don't know, it's it's sort 189 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: of baffling. But no offense always looks bad. Fans hate that, 190 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: everyone hates that. It's that's no fun to watch, and mistakes. 191 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: These are the sort of things they did last year 192 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: that drove everybody nuts, and the things that they're not 193 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: supposed to do. 194 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: This year, well, I would say this. 195 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: If I don't stand up in my locker and talk 196 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: about my mistakes, somebody else has to stand up in 197 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: their locker and talk about my mistakes. And it puts 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: pressure on your teammates not to own it. And those 199 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: guys are professionals, and I understand the frustration. But I 200 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: made that big error in the in the A series 201 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: against the Yankees, and I stood in my locker in 202 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: my uniform, where guys were in their street closed ready 203 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: to get on the plane, the bus to the plane, 204 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: and I was still talking to the media. So you 205 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: have to do that. I want to talk about leadership 206 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: in a second. 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They will 232 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: take care of you. 233 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: All right. 234 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: Well, I talked about what I think leadership is, and 235 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: I've been around some pretty good leaders and i'd probably 236 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: you some examples, but like, how do you think this 237 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: thing should go? 238 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm not entirely sure. There is the 239 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: leadership in there, and Matt Chapman Willia Damas, they know 240 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: what they're doing, they're well liked. I wouldn't want to 241 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: get certainly on the wrong side, especially with a Damas 242 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: because he's the nicest guy in the world. So you know, 243 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: if he's fired up about something, you better listen. Chapman's 244 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: fiery anyway, but Logan Webb is a very strong team leader. 245 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: Do they need more, I don't know, but they do 246 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: have a first year manager who's kind of been under 247 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: fire non stop. Some of that's us the media one 248 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: hundred percent. Some of that's now fans. But we're ten 249 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: games in, he said all along there is going to 250 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: be a learning curve. We've known that he's got a 251 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: very good staff. He's got great experience on the staff. 252 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: But yes, there's he's made a few mistakes. I would 253 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: not say this is on him at all in terms 254 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: of leader leadership. He seems like he is pretty willing 255 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: to be fiery himself, which we saw yesterday when Jerari 256 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: Conacione got called out for interference, which if I tel said, 257 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: like to the letter of the law, he actually, you know, 258 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: probably not a bad call. He was I think a 259 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: little hacked off over something that had happened the previous 260 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: inning too, so he was extra fiery. I love it, Honestly. 261 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: I never have a problem with a manager getting ejected, 262 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: especially when his team is in a funk that can 263 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: get things going a little bit. So I kind of 264 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: think that was a good spot to do. It didn't 265 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: really work at the time, but fire Tony Botello is 266 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: really a good thing to see and maybe you know, 267 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: this might not be a bad time. How do you 268 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: feel about team meeting kind of things. I know they 269 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: have to be sort of timed. It's tough to get 270 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: the timing right right, Like if you have a team 271 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: meeting and then the team loses a couple more, you're like, oh, 272 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: well that didn't work, and when do you have another one? 273 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: But there's no guarantees, So what have you thought, especially 274 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: when managers have called team meetings. 275 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's only ten games. 276 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if you start having a team meeting after 277 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: ten games, how many are you going to have and 278 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: what kind of precedent do you set. David Johnson told 279 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: me something interesting. He said, I always have a team 280 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: meeting before my. 281 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: Ace pitches, he goes. 282 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: So, you know, when he was a Mets manager, if 283 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Doc Goodin was pitching, that's when he told the team 284 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: meeting because he said he had the best chance of 285 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: winning after the team meeting. I think it shows panic 286 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: right now if you have a team meeting after ten games. 287 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: If it's the end of April and they're way under 288 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: five hundred and they're just not playing good baseball, then maybe, 289 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: But I don't think you have one right now. 290 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: It's just too soon. It's too soon. 291 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: The schedule's tough, and all your deficiencies get magnified when 292 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: you're playing good teams. And the shocking part for me is, 293 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: and I know it's only ten games, is that I 294 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: didn't see any of this coming based on what I 295 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: saw in spring training. They worked so hard on everything 296 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: in spring training. And then baseball is a funny thing. 297 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: Man. 298 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: It can take a blue pit tonight, a break going 299 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: your way, and all of a sudden, everybody relaxes and 300 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: you get a little bit of roll. But we'll talk 301 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: about it later. The kid pitching for the Phillies tonight's 302 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: really good. So mostly how this whole thing goes, I 303 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: just I went to I met with my friends after 304 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: the game and they're all diehard Giants fans, they all 305 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: live in the city, and they were going nuts. They 306 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: were just like, this team sucks, They're terrible. Please don't 307 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: like blotch that out and put it on Twitter. I'm 308 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: not saying that. I'm saying my friends are saying that 309 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: I still have faith in this ball club. But they 310 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: were going nuts last night, and I thought it was 311 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: really cool what you did on Twitter last night where 312 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: you interacted with the fans, and I read all of 313 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: your you went down to all the subtweets and you were. 314 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: Responding to all the fans. 315 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, I never tell fans how. 316 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: To feel, feel how you feel. 317 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: You're the guys paying money, You're the guys that have 318 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: the expectations. I think it'd be weird if the Giants 319 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: fan base was okay with only witty one game at 320 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: home and their team scoring two point six runs and 321 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: the sloppy play that we've seen, if you were just 322 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: all going, oh, that's all right, we'll be fine, that 323 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: would be weird. You want your fan base to expect greatness. 324 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: You want your fan base to expect championships. It's perfect 325 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: and however you feel right now, whether you think this 326 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: is just ten games will be okay or this team's terrible, 327 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: that's your opinion, and whatever your opinion is, you're right 328 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: right now. But I would say, like, just breathe a 329 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: little bit and see how they react to this because 330 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: we've all been through failures in our life, right, We've 331 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: all had tough things happen to us. And it's not 332 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: the event that happens to you, it's how you react 333 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: to that event. 334 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: Because we're all going to go through. 335 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Trials and tribulations right now, three and seven, this is 336 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: trial and tribulation. How do they react to this? How 337 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: do they pick theirselves up off the mat? To me, 338 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: that's the most important. It all starts tonight. 339 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, plenty of teams have gotten off to very bad 340 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: starts and made the playoffs. I mean, I've covered teams 341 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: like that. You've played on teams like that. I'm sure 342 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: the Giants have had teams like that. The Giants started 343 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: eight and two last year and wind up, you know, 344 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: being dead even again. You know, it's the start of 345 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: the season gets over magnified. That's the only point I 346 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: was really trying to make was it's early. These things 347 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: just look so, you know, you take any ten game 348 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: stretch of the season and it probably does not tell 349 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: you much about how the team winds up doing at 350 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: the end of the season. 351 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: It's the type of baseball the most alarming, right. 352 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: That's why I just don't think people should panic. I 353 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: was seeing people FP saying, I'm selling my season tickets, 354 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm never coming back to the ballpark. I'm going to stop. 355 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: It's that kind of thing where I'm like, you know, 356 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: just don't don't panic quite yet. And honestly, some of 357 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: it was I'm thinking, like, oh wow, if the Giants 358 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: really turn this around, I'm going to feel bad for 359 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: these people that jumped off board, especially if they did 360 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: something like sold seasoned dikets, like stick around the beauty 361 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: of sports. Like, if you're a real fan, you stick 362 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: through the tough times. You don't have to be happy 363 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: about them. I don't think anybody should be happy about them, 364 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: but you do stick around, you know, if you're to me, 365 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: if you're a real fan. Again, I'm not trying to 366 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: tell anybody how to think. I never am, but you know, hey, 367 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm a lot in my opinion too, just like all 368 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: the rest of you all out there, and FP sort 369 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: of sometimes FP's allowed his opinion. 370 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: Well, my opinion on here is you get me fired 371 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: on the corner of third and Street if they kick 372 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: too in the broadcast. 373 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that right now. That's my main job 374 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: and I'm. 375 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: Always aware of that, but I also there's credibility too, 376 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: and like anytime you see your team running after baseballs 377 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: into the dugout on throws, it just it just doesn't 378 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: look major league and and you know there there's there's 379 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: a big the biggest question for me, Like the bullpen's 380 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: first test was yesterday. We were all pleasantly surprised. I said, 381 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: I was strangely confident in the bullpen. That was their 382 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: first real test. I mean, Ryan Walker had the three 383 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: run save in San Diego where he had the hiccup, 384 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: but yesterday was a one run lead in the eighth 385 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: inning after your ace just pitched his butt off, and 386 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: that was That was a tough loss to swallow. It 387 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: really was. I didn't see that coming. I was like, oh, 388 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: they split the series. I was, you know, I was 389 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: at the ballgame. I'm thinking, just like you in the 390 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: press box, they split the series. 391 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: Now you go against the Phillies. 392 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, it was like quick too, 393 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: and it was the guys you thought that were going 394 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: to be the guys, whether it was Keaton Win giving 395 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: up the hits, or whether it was Eric Miller after 396 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: he blew two fastballs by the pinch hitter who I 397 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't even know his name, and then threw a change 398 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: up and he got the hit down the right field line. 399 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you sped his bat up a little bit. 400 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 3: I was hoping he'd go high fastball there by him. 401 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: So there's just it's just like every little thing, whether 402 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: it's in carnassion getting thrown out or the plays at 403 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: first that you've seen made in your sleep in the 404 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: big leagues that aren't being made. And yeah, the throws. 405 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes throws are offline when you're making a hard play. 406 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: That's just baseball, and in the base running stuff. It's 407 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: just it's been a lot right now, so hopefully all 408 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: of that is cleaned up. And I don't it just 409 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: takes with something small and like if they're not pitching 410 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: to me, I take my walk. 411 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: And pass the baton to the guy behind me. 412 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: And a lot of times when you're struggling, it's like 413 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the hero here I come. I'm gonna 414 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: turn this around by myself. And that you have to 415 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: have the opposite mentality. Joe Imadgine, who I love, has 416 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: a saying says try easy. 417 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 3: The Giants need to try easy tonight. 418 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way to put it. What do 419 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: we make of the offense? I you know, I hear 420 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: from a lot of people last a couple of days 421 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: who want Daniel sussek Beck and Patrick Bailey is struggling. 422 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: You guys, I think all know. I'm kind of a 423 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: Bailey stand when it comes to his bat. I do 424 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: think it will come around better last year, but it 425 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: hasn't so far. Although he did get that little important 426 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: bluepip yesterday. Maybe that gets him going. He's in there 427 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: for a reason. He's an elite catcher. Even Susack said 428 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: he's the best in the world. He's learned from him. 429 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: That probably targeting Susack more for left handers, So I 430 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: would say Tuesday night, tomorrow night, it is probably when 431 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: he goes. I was a little surprised not to see 432 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: him in there day game after a night game yesterday, 433 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: but it was logan web logan webs You almost always 434 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: going to have Patrick Bailey behind the dish. So Bailey 435 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: needs to pick it up, but there are other guys 436 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: that really need to pick it up a lot more. 437 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: In that lineup, Almost everybody except for Arise, as we mentioned, 438 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: Junk hu Lee for me, is a guy who really 439 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: needs to get going. What are you seeing from Jun 440 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 2: hu Lee? 441 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: I mean not a lot really. I mean he. 442 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: He hasn't gotten off to a good start, but he 443 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: dig it off to a good start last year. 444 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: So it's just it's. 445 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: Such a small sample size when you talk about it. 446 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: The one thing I would say, and I'm not trying 447 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: to manage from my place here in downtown San Francisco, 448 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: but as a bench guy, I would have loved to 449 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: have seen the bench guys play yesterday. And I talked 450 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: about the last podcast. On a four game series, when 451 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: you get to the fourth game, you've been real time 452 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: scouted for three games by your opponent, and it's really 453 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: tough because they have a very intricate game plan to 454 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: go after you as a hitter. And sometimes if you 455 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: throw guys in in game four the series that haven't 456 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: played either fresh and be you know you have the 457 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: scouting report for the advanced scouts, but it's you haven't 458 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: seen it the last three games. So a guy like 459 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: Jared Oliva, to me, added so much energy to this 460 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: ball club in spring training. He's got the speed, he 461 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: can bunt, he gets on base, he plays a really 462 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: good outfield. Christian Costs is the same kind of player 463 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: where he adds a little dynamic to the lineup and 464 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: Dusty Baker's philosophy. When he'd throw us out there in 465 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: the last game of the series, he'd say, we're all 466 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: big leaguers. 467 00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: You know. 468 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: The press would ask him, why did Berry not play today? 469 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: An FP play left field, and he would say, we're 470 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: all major leaguers here. So I'm just worried those guys 471 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: are getting stale on the bench. As a bench player 472 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: most of my career, when you don't play for a while, 473 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: you go up there in ninety two looks like one 474 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: hundred and two and you kind of lose your strike 475 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: zone and you lose your timing. But I would have 476 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: really liked to see Sussac and Costs and all of 477 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: a yesterday. And Tony's got his reasons, and Buster and 478 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: Zach have the reasons, and it's none of my business. 479 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: But maybe as a bench guy, I'm a little sensitive 480 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: that that was our day yesterday, Like that was our 481 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: day to go in and be the heroes and spark 482 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: the team and the fan base and to show them 483 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: that we why we belong in the big leagues. 484 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: And that didn't happen yesterday. So that's all you can 485 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: do is turn the page. Baseball. 486 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: This schedule is not easing up. I mean, it's coming 487 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: at you every single day. There's no it's the big leagues, 488 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: and now it's the Phillies, and then it's the Orioles, 489 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: who are pretty good, and then Cincinnati's pretty good, and 490 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: the Nats have been good at times this year. 491 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: So you're on the road. 492 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: Maybe this road trip brings them together, but we still 493 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: have three games against the Phillies that I think are 494 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: going to tell a big story on how they react 495 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: to what's happened the first ten games. 496 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you make a lot of good points. 497 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: I was saying last week during the Yankees series, I 498 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: would have liked to see some of the bench guys 499 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: and you know, a little less like you like fourth 500 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: game of a series. I'm not necessarily sure you need 501 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: to start all those guys, but I think when you 502 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: when a game gets a little bit out of hand, 503 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: that you definitely need to get your bench guys in there. 504 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: We really haven't seen that, and Tony has talked a 505 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: lot about I need to get all of in there. 506 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: We really haven't seen him. You know, he's the manager. 507 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: He can do that. He can make that happen if 508 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: he wants to make it happen, and it's just not so. 509 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: I would like to see a little bit more of 510 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: those guys period. You know, maybe they give them a 511 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: little bit of a jolt, but you're right, maybe they're 512 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: also a little bit stale at this point because you know, 513 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: we're week and a half in here and they haven't 514 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: gotten at bats, you know, but Suzak aside, really and 515 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: I guess if you want to say juror you know, 516 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: Casey Schmidt, hope he's back soon. Who knows what's going 517 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: on there. It's interesting. I maybe even make a move, 518 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: go get somebody from Triple A who's playing well. I 519 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: got no problem with that. If you want to get, 520 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, get the hot bat in here, the guy 521 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: who really has stood out so far, and thinking Sacramento 522 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: is Barracoto, that'd be fun. I would have zero problem 523 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: with that. So we've got some categories and one appropriately 524 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: is the week Ahead FB. We kind of talked about 525 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: that a little bit. Philly's good team, they've been a 526 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: little down on their luck. Interesting series. There's always the 527 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper subplot for me. Then at the end of 528 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: the week, it's Baltimore and then the start of a 529 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: very long road trip that's a weird one because it 530 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: goes Baltimore, Cincinnati, Washington, d C. So the weirdness of 531 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 2: the baseball schedule strikes the Giants. 532 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the thing to look out 533 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: for tonight is Andrew Painter, the twenty two year old 534 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: pitcher who just won his first major league start. This 535 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: a guy that was a phenom, a nineteen year old phenom, 536 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: and the Phillies are calling his major league debut against 537 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: the Nationals the biggest one since Cole Hammil's was called up. 538 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: And he's a kid that's been through a lot at 539 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: a young age. In twenty twenty three, he was invited 540 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: to spring training as a nineteen year old, and there 541 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: was talk about him making the team as a nineteen 542 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: year old, and then he went through adversity where he 543 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: had the Tommy John and had to rehab and missed 544 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: about a year and a half of baseball as the 545 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: Phillies number one prospect. So it was a very ballyhooed 546 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: debut against the Nationals, and he got the win and 547 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: So this kid has been through a lot of adversity. 548 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: He's learned how to deal with adversity. And I watched 549 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: his stuff in a plays. 550 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: It's an effortless ninety eighty pitches up on the strike 551 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: soon with his fastball. He's got a nasty split change up, 552 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: a slider and sweeper to go with it. And it's 553 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: a good story. So the Giants have their work cut 554 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: out for him. After a kid twenty two years old 555 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: got his first major league win, We'll see if that 556 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: translates it tonight. 557 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 3: I'm curious to see that. 558 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: So that's my look at in my rehearsal for the 559 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: broadcast tonight with John Miller. 560 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: Is my preview. And Andrew Painter. I watched his first start. 561 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: He's pretty good. 562 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, my matchup is always whenever it's the Phillies and 563 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: the Giants is always just Harper Like, it's just such 564 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: a juicy subplot. You know, you know how the fans 565 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: will respond that that that could be fun. 566 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: He's struggling, struggling or something like that. 567 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: Well, you had said last week, you know they're going 568 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: to course, maybe that gets them going, and it did 569 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: in one game, and that was kind of it. So 570 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: that's the Phillies right now. Their fan base might not 571 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: be much more happy than the than the Giants fan base. 572 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost four to one of the Rockies yesterday 573 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: and Bryce Harper right now is hitting one thirty nine. 574 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean is that good or bad? 575 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: Because I watching the Mets came in and they weren't hitting. 576 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: So that always like you go on the air and say, well, 577 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: the Phillies are really struggling offensively right now, and then 578 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: they throw out sixteen hits and score eight runs. So 579 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: and then and then Houser tonight, Let's let's see how 580 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: he does. He's a pretty good story too, and had 581 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: that great first half with the White Sox last year 582 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: turned into trade bait. Uh kind of redid his whole 583 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: career where he started dieting, he went fasting dieting, he 584 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: did the carnivore diet and did the strength training, changed 585 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: his mechanics, and I thought he pitched pretty good his 586 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: first time out. So it's a good matchup tonight at 587 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: the ballpark. And the Giants need to win. 588 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: That's it. I don't care how it looks tonight. 589 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: And they need a series win. 590 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: Well, you got to win one before you win the series. 591 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, they still need a serious wine another old customer. 592 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: He's good to have in a situation like this where 593 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: he comes across as a cool customer. I guess we'll see, 594 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: but I think he's not a bad guy to have 595 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: in the situation. 596 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: The one thing I would say is how you get 597 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: out of these funks is you just simplify things like 598 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: let's just go one and oh today, let's win today's game. 599 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: Not like I'm going to get my average from one 600 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: hundred to three hundred today, or I'm going to go 601 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: out there and throw seven shut out. Just go one 602 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: and oh today. Just win one game. That's it, and 603 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: do whatever you have to do to win. 604 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: That one game. 605 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Any Do we have anything else on the slate here 606 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: or do you want to do last thoughts? You think 607 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: they can turn this around, Susan and I'll end the show. 608 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: Well, I do, because I think the offense is so 609 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: much better. I'm believing the things that I wrote myself, 610 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: sticking with that that the offense is better. It should 611 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: be better. And I think they're much better defensively than 612 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: they've played. Obviously they are, so they clean those things up. 613 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: The pitching's actually not been terrible. I think they'll be fine. 614 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: They need to get out of their own way right now. 615 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they need to get out of their own way. 616 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: All right. Good job, as you usual. 617 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: A great picture of your original neighborhood in the background. 618 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: I love it good. 619 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: As my mom grew up in West Portal. So there's 620 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: Portal graad that I made fun of it. 621 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: Now you should, all. 622 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: You West Portal people. That's looking down kind of from 623 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: the top of West Portal. 624 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, if there was a car outside getting broken into, 625 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: it would be a perfect picture. 626 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: All right. 627 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for another episode of Splash Hit. 628 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys at the yard tonight. I'm doing 629 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: the game with John Miller on the radio. I'm super 630 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: excited to do the whole series against the Phillies. 631 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: It's my opening day. I'm a little bit nervous, so 632 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: bear with me. Today. We thank all of you guys 633 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: for watching. I can't wait to see the comments on 634 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: this one. Let it rip. 635 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: But we enjoy your passion and we enjoy that the 636 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: fact that you guys watch us. We'll see you next 637 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: time we do three shows a week. You guys are 638 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: the best, and like I say on the way out 639 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: every single time. 640 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: Swing hard in case you hit it on splash hit Territory.