1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian because the recall thing is really affecting the industry. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: You can see it. You take the card for the recall, 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you've got this laundry 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: list of things that don't need to be done. The 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: car Doctor. There's a huge shortage of technicians, qualified technicians, 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: people that will work on the car like their mom 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: or sister or their family was in it. Welcome to 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor. 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: call in the garage to orders are open. But I 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: am here to take your calls at eight five five 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: and now he running. Hey, it's time to start your 15 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: engines eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: And if they don't, you definitely want to pick up 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: the phone and give us a qual at zero Roninny 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor, at your service. We're here to 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: take your calls and answer your questions whatever they might be. 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: That's what this radio shows about. Once again, we welcome 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: the folks over there up in Watertown, New York w 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: A t N twelve forty up there in North Country. 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: As they are another one of our Car Doctor affiliates, 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: as we had one more to the list, and continue 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: the march across this country as we keep picking up 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: affiliates and growing and welcoming the car Doctor family. As 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, Tom, I'm feeling you know what, 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Let's let's have a little fun, all right. I'm looking 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, I'm a fun guy. I really am. Yeah. Yeah, 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: I saw you growing in the yard. Yes, you know, 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm really a fun guy. Um. I'm noticing that Ron 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: and any in the car Doctor T shirt you're wearing. 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: So if you can manage to do this and answer 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: the phones and get their information and yeah, you're gonna 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: have to iron it all right. Um for the first caller, 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: if we get a caller from Watertown, New York today, 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: all right, Um, we're gonna give them out of car 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: Doctor T shirt. Gotta gotta be a Watertown, New York address. Now, 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: come on, we're trying to water the surrounding area, border 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Town surrounding area, right um. And we have them in 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: every size you can imagine, as long as it's extra large. 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: All right, This is just like Henry Ford in the 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Model A. He said, you can get it in any 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: caller you want, as long as it's black. So, in 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: following the theme of automotive history, we're gonna make it 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: any size you want, as long as it's extra large, 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: because I don't think we have any other size is available, 48 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: So we're looking for somebody stockily built. So either it's 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a T shirt for the guys, pajamas for 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: the women, or a bedroll for the kids, but it'll 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: be extra large. However you want to make it for 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: our first Watertown caller at zero nine zero zero. Before 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: we get into the show today, we got a lot 54 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: going on this hour as well. We're gonna talk a 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: little bit about flying cars. Yeah, really, it's really gonna happen. 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about an article 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: in the New York Times yesterday about the shortage of 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: water mechanics, and that got me thinking when I was 59 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: reading that article. Yeah, you know, we kid about it, 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: and if anybody's ever been to the shop, they know 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: how serious it is about having more than one scan tool. 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, I started this year with the best of intentions. 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: I really did. I said I'm gonna get rid of 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: some scan tools. I had nineteen scan tools at the 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: beginning of this year. January, I took a look around 66 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the shop and I said, this is a little out 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: of control. There's there's got to be a more sustainable 68 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: way to do this, because with nineteen scancels, it's like 69 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: having nineteen cars. You don't get familiar enough with one 70 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: before you gotta move on to the next one. And 71 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to hone your skills because everyone's a little 72 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: bit different. So I've kind of wheedled the list down 73 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: to I think four right now, and that's not counting. 74 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: You know, that's still dealer level O East stuff. Still 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: have the GM Tech two and the GM scan tool 76 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: for the newer cars, and the Ford I d s 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: and the Chrysler and Toyota and Honda. You know, we're 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: trying to diversify, but stay within a certain food group automobiles. 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: And I'm saying to myself, you know, I was listening 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: to a conversation at a meeting the other night, and 81 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: the conversation with the technicians is they go on and 82 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: they talk about, well, you know, we've got a snap 83 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: on motus and we've got a launch, and we've got 84 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: an Autel. But I never hear anybody saying we've got 85 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: to launch an Autel and a Modus or a Modus 86 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: in OTC, and I'm wondering, I'm saying, how do they survive? 87 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that a repair shop can get by 88 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: on one scan tool. I don't think it's possible anymore. 89 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: And the reason is this, there are too many times 90 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: when I'm using one of the nineteen, or now one 91 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: of the four or five, and I think the number 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: is actually six because I think I had to bring 93 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: another one back into the mix. My point is, I'll 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: tell you a story how to do CAM reset on 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: a Ford the other day. Cam reset is something you 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: do when you've made a repair that affects fuel trim 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: and fuel system settings and you want to you want 98 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to reset to keep alive memory, and you take the 99 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: scan tool and you can you can plug in and 100 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: you can physically make that change. The scan tool I 101 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: was using had cam reset in their menu. It didn't work, 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: it didn't do anything. It was a it was a 103 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: software dead end. Reached out and got another one that 104 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: didn't work. Finally got I took out an OTC evolve 105 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: that worked all right, So I had to go through 106 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: three to get to the one that worked. I also 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: could have taken out the Ford ideas. But there's a 108 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: whole conversation there about using you know, oh we let 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: we ow wes scan tools, and they're a little difficult 110 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: and cumbersome sometimes, so you're trying to find you know, 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: day to day stuff before you get deep into the 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: dark waters. And my point is, maybe because you're always 113 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: asking me, you the listener, you're always saying that, hey, 114 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: how do we find a repair shop? How do we 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: know who's good who's bad? Maybe part of that conversation 116 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: is how many scan tools you got? You know, you 117 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: show me here as I'll show your mind. You know. 118 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: It kind of comes to that point that, uh, you know. 119 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: And I was telling them to someone this morning and 120 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: they said to me, they said, well, what do you do? 121 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: Go in and ask him, Yeah, you know, what kind 122 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: of tools do you have? You know, I mean, listen, 123 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: you look around the park a lot. If you're driving 124 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: a BMW and all you see in the parking lot 125 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: of sixty two Chevys and um, you know, uh seventy 126 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: eight monty Carlos. Maybe that's not the guy for you. 127 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: But if you see like minded cars and proper tooling 128 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: and proper assortment of needs, you know, technical resources, and 129 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: that's that's what you want. So maybe it's you know 130 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: what instead of five star ratings, we're gonna do with 131 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: scan tool rating? Are you a one scan tool company, 132 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: a two scan tool company, a tend scan tool company? 133 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: Because trust me, the guy that's got more than one 134 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: scan tool and I'm not knocking the guy with just one, 135 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: but you really need more than one. If you've got 136 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: more than one, I think you're really dead serious and 137 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: much more capable of fixing cars. And the guy that 138 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: has one or none, and yeah there's still some shops 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: out there that have none, boggles my mind. Anyway, that's 140 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: just opening conversations. Start looking at scan tools and see 141 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: what they've got. Recent article that came out from about 142 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: uber Uber really seriously promises flying cars by can you 143 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: believe this? Uber is more than fly? Curious about taking 144 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: rides share into the air. The company announced Tuesday that 145 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: it plans to roll out a network of flying cars 146 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: in Dallas, Fort Worth and and this is all supposed 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: to happen by can you believe it? We're gonna be 148 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: into flying cars by Uber flying cars and you know listen. 149 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: So so now I've got to ask you the question, 150 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: are you comfortable getting into a self driving uber on 151 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: the ground and would you really be comfortable getting into 152 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: a self driving uber in the air? And just I 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I just don't know. I don't know what 154 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: kind of problems that might present. And we want to 155 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: go to Dave from Iowa is on the phone. And 156 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Dave actually he sent us this story and we thought 157 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: we would put him on the spot and get his 158 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: thoughts on it because he's we're making Dave Joe American 159 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: average American citizen here from h Q John Q Public, 160 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: Dave john Que Public, Sir from Iowa. How are you today? Hey, 161 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: thank you for the introduction or on. I really appreciate it. 162 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'm really proud of you and 163 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: you and your dedication toward individuals and the profession. And 164 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: I've made it. I had time to make a little 165 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: list here. This is so interesting to me. I've decided 166 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: to do our research on it. But anyway, this is 167 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: probably something that your listeners and your cute to mechanics 168 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: need to hear. Uh, you know, when this stuff comes 169 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: to uh come to white, we're gonna they're gonna need 170 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: an education. And I wrote down some of the few 171 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: things here that would probably be uh something for them 172 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: to look into, because you know, three years is not 173 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: too long to learn something, you know. So we have 174 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: you're going to have to have major degrees in technical science. Uh, 175 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have a lot get a little 176 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: this an auto aeronautical engineering text. You have to have 177 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: an electrical engineering uh degree probably uh, and you know 178 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: it's things like that, so you know, it's, uh, it's 179 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a real excellent school. I mean you look 180 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: at you look at the average college program for I 181 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: don't know, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering. That's a four year 182 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: that's a four year study, right, and and now we're 183 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: three years away from this, I know, I know, I 184 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: mean they that the profit on this, you know. But 185 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: so these are for visionaries that we're going to do this, 186 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: you know. So it's we're in a whole new world now, 187 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to adjust, you know. So I wonder, 188 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, Dave and I and I say this kind 189 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: of tongue in cheek, but I wonder how real it 190 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: is in the sense you ever watch um which one 191 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: was it when they were bringing Spock Holme, I think 192 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the voyage home Star Trek and they ended up in 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: night San Francisco because they had to save the planet 194 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: for the whales. And they're walking around San Francisco and 195 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, Kirk and Spock and McCoy and all the 196 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: rest of them, and nobody had any money. And you know, 197 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: I think I think Kirk made the comment, well, because 198 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: where we come from, you know, in the future, there 199 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: is no money. You know. It was just such a 200 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: radical thought, like you know, the world is gonna change, 201 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: and you never think you're gonna see change like that 202 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: where economy doesn't matter. And yet you're seeing something that 203 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: is Star trekki ish and it's it's real, it's and 204 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: there's there's people out there talking about it, as you say, 205 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: by as the article states, So this isn't some pie 206 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: in the sky statement. This is they're putting some serious 207 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: money behind this to come up with it. I was 208 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: reading it talks about company CEO Travis Kalinak apparently wants 209 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: to play the role of Elon Musk. We know who 210 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: that is. We came up with the idea for hyper 211 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: loop and is letting everyone else figure out how to 212 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: make it work. The reward for his game accessing Uber 213 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: sixty five million or I'm sorry, fifty five million monthly 214 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: active writer in nearly doesn't say how many cities worldwide 215 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: and Uber can make it happen. I think a realistic 216 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: point not replacing the vehicle for an airplane, but replacing 217 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: the cars. As Richard pat Anderson, director of flight Research 218 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: at Embry Aeronautical University, a purely electric aircraft might remain elusive, 219 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: but a serial hybrid set up where the aircraft carries 220 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: a fuel burning turbine to keep it flying, much like 221 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: the Chevrolet Vault, could work. I mean, they don't have 222 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: the plane designed yet and they're talking about flying cars, 223 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: and you know, I think the people, the younger people 224 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: today are I think they're excited. If we did a 225 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: survey on them, I'm sure that they'd be excited about 226 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: this because it is something that, uh, you know, new upcoming. 227 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: They see an opportunity to make a profession out of 228 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: it and uh a survival tour to speak. Uh As 229 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: older people, you know, we're still down on the ground. 230 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: But one thing about up in the air. You're not 231 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: going to get a speeding ticket probably, you know, because 232 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be regulated. We don't have to worry about tires. 233 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: And you're gonna to put a landing pad on your shop. Yeah, um, 234 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, a landing pad on the roof of the shop. 235 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: And you know I want to I think I want 236 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: to keep working long enough until that first one either 237 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: flies in or drives in on its own. Because when 238 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: I when I, when I find out, I don't have 239 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: to talk to the customer anymore. You know that the 240 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: robot's gonna go change the oil. Hey great, you know what, 241 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: no argument here. I don't have to go through the 242 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: song and dance. I don't have to explain it. Just 243 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: fix the car, send it on its way. Um, you know, 244 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's just gonna be so different. Um. 245 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna be around when that happens, though. 246 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have problems with this is you 247 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: know so well, I can imagine or whatever. You know, 248 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: I would want to parachute with me, you know so well? Yeah, 249 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: because you know they can create an invent anything you'd want, Um, Dave, 250 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: if if if they ran this through all the testing. 251 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Give me an honest answer before I go to break. 252 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: If they ran this through all the testing and everything 253 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: passed with flying colors and it was flawless, would you 254 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: get in one? Probably I'm old enough. That does matter. Well, 255 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: you know what, you're the market then, um, you know, 256 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we'll go up together. You know what, 257 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: We'll go up because if the thing does malfunction, I'm 258 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: gonna fix it in mid air. Dave, I enjoyed the conversation. Sir, 259 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: you um, you take good care and thank you for 260 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: taking taking out your time and being part of us 261 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: out there in Iowa. We appreciate it. You take good care. 262 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Zero nine zero zero. You got some comments of thoughts 263 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: on flying cars, even cars on the ground, run and 264 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: eating the car doctor. Give us a call. We'll talk 265 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: about it. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back 266 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, rolling along it zero nine zero zero. 267 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: Thanks to Dave. I want you know and Dave is 268 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: a listener. I've got to tell you this story. David 269 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: is a listener out in Iowa read the article about 270 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: flying cars with Uber and sent it into us, and 271 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: we actually reached out and figured let's have a conversation. 272 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: About and that's what we're gonna do around here, folks. 273 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Just to let you know going forward, we're trying to 274 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: make this as you know, conversational friendly as weekend. So 275 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: you want to get on the air, you want to 276 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: talk about something on radio. It's beyond just your car 277 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: is broken. You've got a topic of hand of the day, 278 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: of something changing or how it's changing in the industry. 279 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Can send us a call, send us your information, and 280 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: don't be surprised if you hear Tom Ray on the 281 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: other end of the phone going, hey, you're up next. 282 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of being up next, let's go over and talk 283 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: to Paul Huntington, New York, oh one, Chevy S ten 284 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: and so may see from there's a conversation from last week. Paul, Right, 285 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: good afternoon, Good afternoon, sir. So, So what what system 286 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: pressures did you have on this vehicle? Uh? The other 287 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: day was a cooler morning, right around sixty degrees both 288 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: low and high. We're eight with it, okay, start start 289 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: the you know, take it up above vital and the 290 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: low side went down to fifty two and the high 291 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: side max wasn't seventy alright, So first off the bat, 292 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: we don't have enough of a pressure difference, and we 293 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: don't have enough. We don't have enough compressor high side. 294 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like a bad compressor all right from my 295 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: seat here. But the way I would tell you the 296 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: couple of things I'd want to do firsthand is I 297 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: want to recover what refrigerant is in there and measure it. 298 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: And I know you're charging this with little cans by hand. 299 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: And here's one of the problems with that. You'll you'll 300 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: never know how much is in there. Number one. Number two, 301 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to use some sort of and I've 302 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: seen them, these aftermarket containment kits that will pull it out, 303 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: but to properly service that if you're gonna service the 304 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: your conditioning on your own um short of blowing it 305 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: out into the environment, which is really not the right 306 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: thing to do. It's not good for the environment, and 307 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: it just you know what, it's also a problem for 308 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: you because even if you put a new compressor in, 309 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: if that's what it turns out to be, how are 310 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: you going to pull a vacuum on the system? Well, 311 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I have a I can I can't pump it down. 312 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: I just have no way to recapture it. Okay, So 313 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: maybe you've got to take it to your repair shop 314 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: and say, hey, recapture this for me. Here's here's the 315 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: problem you're gonna have with that. If somebody brings me 316 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: a car that I don't know or even if I 317 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: know them, and they say, hey, just recover the refrigerant, 318 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the repair myself. Fine, I get it. 319 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: You know what, you can buy a half hour of 320 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: my time. The first thing I'm gonna do is put 321 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: the refrigerant identifier on that machine on that car. If 322 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: that's not pure whatever one thirty four, if that's some 323 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: chemical aftermarket mix, I'm not going to recover it because 324 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna I'm gonna contaminate all the refrigerant that's 325 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: in my recovery machine with whatever that other chemical is. 326 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I've said this for a while. I 327 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: I really think it's unfair and it's not right that 328 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: these manufacturers have these chemicals out there just trying to 329 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: save a few bucks that you know, either they have 330 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: steelers in them or they they you know, have different 331 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: chemical opera eating characteristics in the evaporator where they're you know, 332 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: they're super cool. They make it cooler than it needs 333 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: to be under certain pressures and temperatures. You know, it's 334 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: you're you're, you're kind of giving the cryptonite to to 335 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: the criminals and saying, hey, um, you know, make this work, 336 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: and then Superman shows up in the A C system 337 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: is contaminated. It doesn't it doesn't make any sense to me. Um. 338 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: But you know, right off the bat, i'd recover what's 339 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: in here. This should be an orifice tube system. Uh, 340 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: you know in the in the liquid line. If this 341 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: is an orifice tube system and all you're getting out 342 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: of this is seventy p s I you know, either 343 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm assuming one of one of a few things. The 344 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: gauges are broken. The strader valve isn't allowing full volume 345 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: through which I've seen it's rare. Uh. You know, we're 346 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: just playing and simple dead head. The compressor block off 347 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 1: one of the compressor lines, um, you know, or restrict them, 348 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: put a slight crimp in it. I don't like doing that. 349 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: You run the risk of damaging the rubber on the inside. 350 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: But you know, here's a case on an older vehicle. 351 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: You want to be sure if you start to crimp 352 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: off the high side line. This is old school somewhere 353 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: find a rubber portion of it, and it doesn't immediately 354 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: hit two to fifty higher. You've got a compressor that's 355 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: not able to put out, so it can't raise the pressure. 356 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: It can't, you know, pull a vacuum. You've got a 357 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: compressor issue, you know. And that's that's kind of where 358 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: I think you're going. Um, so I mentioned in the 359 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: after market recovery system. I've seen them out there, all right. 360 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Um I haven't seen him in a while. I don't 361 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: know if they were pulled off the market, but you know, 362 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: it's it was similar to the type of thing you 363 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: would see a home air conditioning company US where they 364 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: used the plastic bag. So you've got to look for it, 365 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: all right, sir. Good luck to you, Paul. Let me 366 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: know and we'll go from there. I'm run any of 367 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: the car Doctor coming back right after this. Take Welcome 368 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: back the car Doctor rolling along at zero nine zo zero. 369 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: We're in the driver's seat that we're taking your colds, 370 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: answering your questions. Let's go over to Krey in Minnesota, 371 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: two thousand hands to c rv A. See what's going 372 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: on here? Good good? What's going on? Well, I'm trying 373 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: to troubleshoot a vibration problem. I've got a two thousand 374 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: Hannes c RV. It's got about a hundred and seventy 375 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: thousand miles. When I initially bought it with about a 376 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty there was no vibration. I changed tires 377 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: on it. I've got another CRV that I can swap 378 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: tires around and uh, swap some good winter tires on there. 379 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: They were not vibrating. UM threw some other tires on that. 380 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: We're all good and balanced everything. And I've got a 381 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: vibration issue that I've changed the uh, it's an all 382 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: wheel drive, just to have the other point in there. 383 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: I've changed the fluid in the rear differential with the 384 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: dual pump food on there. But I can't distinguish it 385 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: if it's coming from the drive shaft or the CV joints. 386 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't hear any clicking when I turned corner, 387 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: but I would think that would be more for the 388 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: front end CD joints than the rear. Yes, So this 389 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: vibration when it happens, corey, is it? Is it? Is 390 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: it and parking lot maneuvers or is it at speed 391 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: on the Highway at speed on highweight. It seems it 392 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: comes around but forty and then disappears and comes back 393 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: around about fifty five right and the shutter from the 394 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: rear differential. And for everyone else out there that may 395 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: not be aware, a lot of the Hondas require differential 396 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: fluid service and that it's either changed with dual pump 397 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: wine or dual pump two. Uh you know it was. 398 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: It was something akin to the older style general motors 399 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: posy rear ends back in the sixties and the seventies 400 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: and even today. Um, if they've got a pause in 401 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: them with clutch plates where you had to put an 402 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: additive in. Ford does it, Chrysler does it, A lot 403 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: of the manufacturers do it. Honda's no different Um, I 404 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: guess we don't think of Honda is actually having a 405 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: posy per se. But it's that particular style locking rear 406 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: axle that requires a fluid change. That being said, that 407 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: usually happens in parking lot maneuvers, you know, going in 408 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: and out of a parking space, making a tight turn 409 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: around the corner, that type of thing. Straight line of 410 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: forty not so much. I've never seen it in that application, 411 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know that it would because the both 412 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: rear wheels are theoretically turning at the same speed. There's 413 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: no there's no differential action. Recently, I did recently look 414 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: at the rear differential mount and that looked a little 415 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: floppy me. So I've actually had that pulled out on 416 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: leaving for a part to come on that. But I 417 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: still can't distinguish if it would be coming from the 418 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: drive shaft or that differential amount or exactly the CV 419 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: joints is it? Is it a vibration on acceleration, de acceleration, 420 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: or just cruising along, cruising along and to the point 421 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: where even my review mirror is vibrating. I can see 422 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: a distorted picture in my review mirror. The crvs are 423 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: noted for drive axle issues, particularly the inner joint, but 424 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: it is it is usually a failure on with regard 425 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: to on acceleration or de cel. It's it's it's something 426 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: when there's when there's load, the uh load on the 427 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: on the drive train itself. The time, it was an 428 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: acceleration problem. So that being said, if you're telling me 429 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: at forty miles an hour, you're just cruising along, and 430 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: you know the steering wheels got a little bit of 431 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: a dance in and you're feeling a little bit of 432 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: a low level vibration in the in the vehicle itself. 433 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you that. I mean, it could 434 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: still be a drive shift issue the old school, you know, 435 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: drive shift lost the weight, bent out of balance problem. Um, listen, 436 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: I've had drive axles have that particular fault as well, 437 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: where there you know it's it's a rotating mass I've seen. 438 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: I've seen bent drive axles on a front wheel drive 439 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: only vehicle where they've got a little bit of an 440 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: elliptical loop to it and it's just enough to cause 441 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, that bit of a vibration. So you know, 442 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: there's that possibility to you know, if you go to 443 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: balance the wheels and tires, do they take a lot 444 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: of weight? A little weight? How do they look on 445 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: the balancer? Everything looks good on on the balance on it. Okay, 446 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: are there are the wheels taking excess weight? No, they're 447 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: all just standard, you know, nothing excessive. I can't. I 448 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: don't have the exact numbers come on top of my head. 449 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: But so yeah, you know, if it's you know, if 450 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: you told me you you'd remember, I can tell you're 451 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: a car guy, you'd remember if you know, if you're 452 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: putting four ounces or five ounces on a wheel, you're 453 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: kind of cringing going. But you know, yeah, if you're 454 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: not seeing that, then the next thing I'm gonna tell 455 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: you is, you know, back in the day, you know 456 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: we're trying to resolve vibration drive line vibration. It was 457 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: the old host clamp and a couple of wheel weights 458 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: strategically placed just to see does it make any difference. 459 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's it's easy enough to say, hey, Corey, 460 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: go buy yourself a pair of axles and start there, right, 461 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: But you know that's not diagnosing. That's throwing parts. And 462 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: I can't guarantee you that the replacement parts are gonna 463 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: be any better than the ones you got on there. Um, 464 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: you know that that you know new means new means 465 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: never ever worked. I still stick by that. So I'm 466 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: just wondering if this real difference from what will take 467 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: some of the vibration. Could sure absolutely do you feel 468 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: the vibration more in the seat of your pants or 469 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: in the steering wheel. That's what's weird is when I 470 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: would go to unbuckle the seat belt for whatever reason, 471 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: that highly speeds and I could put my hand on 472 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: and feel it on where the buckle would attach in 473 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: on the floor. Okay, so it's coming from the drive pan. 474 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: Isn't that a two piece drive shaft. Doesn't that have 475 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: a center bearing support? It is, there's another support sort 476 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: of bearing right in the middle of it. So don't 477 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: don't rule that out either, you know, at a hundred 478 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: and seventy thousand miles, even though it's just broken in, Um, 479 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: you know, it could it could. It could have some 480 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: harshness to the rubber creating because I mean, I've got 481 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: to tell you it sounds like and correct me if 482 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're kind of looking 483 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: for fly poop and pepper. You're, you know, in the 484 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: tire vehicle great in the wintertime. I've had some great 485 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: no ki and snow tires on there for the winter 486 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: and it just takes me through anything. But all of 487 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, this vibration developed, and I'm like, wow, I 488 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: hate to throw the vehicle a just because of that. Right, Yeah, 489 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: So it's just, you know, it sounds like you're chasing 490 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: something very small. But um, you know, when you get 491 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: down to listen. When you get down to you know, 492 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: fly poop and pepper with boxing gloves on, that's probably 493 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: the time to withdraw. So you're you're your two steps 494 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: into it. You got one more to go and then 495 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: it's out. Um. Ultimately, I would like to get it 496 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: up on a lift, uh, so I could get the 497 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: tired rolling and see what the drive shafts actually doing. Yeah, 498 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: and I think that's I think that's part of the process. 499 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be afraid to once you get the 500 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: once you get the mount resolved, once you get their 501 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: center drive shaft support bearing resolved in your mind, because 502 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: I know now you're gonna go look at that. You've 503 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: already got there, already working on that in your head 504 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: since I said it, Um, I wouldn't be afraid to 505 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: take a hose clamp and a couple of wheel weights 506 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: and go out there and play with positioning. You know, 507 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the drive shaft, at the front 508 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: of the drive shaft, does anything make a difference, does 509 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: anything pronounce correct, make it better, make it worse? And 510 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, kind of take it from their employ all right, 511 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: good looks are, You're very welcome and uh, you know, 512 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: thanks for being a car Doctor listener zero nine nine 513 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: zero zero. If Mr Tom Ray can find the buttons, 514 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: we will close out this segment of the Car Doctor. 515 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: But guess what, I'm coming right back through the magic 516 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: of radio. Don't go away, Hey, welcome back. Weren't naming 517 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. You know, it makes you wonder if 518 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the Beach Boys were still, you know, actively growing today. 519 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, it was she's real 520 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: fine my four oh nine. What would they sing about today? 521 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: She's real sporty, my my, my hybrid. You know, there's 522 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: nothing that you know, it's it's a real shock my 523 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: electric It just it just doesn't work. You know. It 524 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: really was the golden age of rock and roll. Um So, 525 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: but anyway, let's let's get open to the phones and 526 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: let's go over and talk to Robert Torrington, Connecticut, oh 527 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: six Chevy and pala Yes, Robert, how can I help you? Sir? Yeah? Hi, 528 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: ron Um, I just put her a power steering pumped 529 00:26:52,160 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: in my two thousand six Chevy and palace Man. Yeah, 530 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: because Pully, But I got the tool from the parts store. 531 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: But anyway, I want to bleed the system. And you know, 532 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: when you look on YouTube, like you say, you can 533 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: you get all these different ways and I don't have 534 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: that might exact adapter that you could put on and 535 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: use a vacuum gauge. Right, what's another way that I 536 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: could do it? Um? Well, and let's let's you know, 537 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you what we would do in the shop, 538 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: but first, you know, you can go down to the 539 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: part's house. I've made that adapter. Um, you know, in 540 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: the sense that I'll just get I'll just buy a 541 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: cheap ePower steering cap, drill a hole through it, and 542 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: all a POxy and nipple on to the top of it, 543 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: and then it's just a matter of put some fluid 544 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: in it, screw the pull pull it into a vacuum state. 545 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: When it's got fluid in it, it'll it'll pull the 546 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: air up and then just continue to add fluid, take 547 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: the cap off, add some fluid and so forth. Um, 548 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: but you can put fluid in there and then um, 549 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: you know, I would tell you to park the car 550 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: on a slight incline so that you're pitching the nose 551 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: in the right direction, and it's it may take overnight 552 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: run the car cycle wheel side to side, and it 553 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: may take a little while doing this by hand. Um, 554 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: but eventually you will work the fluid, you know, will 555 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: work the air out of the system. It's not easy. Um. 556 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: That particular system has a very specific bleed procedure, as 557 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: you can see on either YouTube or if you look 558 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: in service information in general motors, because they had a 559 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: lot of problems with that particular system. Uh. You know, uh, 560 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: And it would be not it would not be uncommon, 561 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: let me say it like this to have a dead new, 562 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: re manufactured pump right out of the box. So don't 563 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: rule that out either. That's why I'm saying you're a 564 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: brave man for doing that. That's not an easy job. 565 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: This is the one when the car steering pumped down 566 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: on the back of the motor. This one, yeah, it's 567 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: on the right hand side because you know, it's transfers mounted. 568 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: It's on the right hand side of the car. It's 569 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: really not hard to get because there's three bolts. This 570 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: one's kind of simple. It's just um. Now, when you 571 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: stay at park the car on an incline, the nose 572 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: facing up or down. UM, I would put the nose 573 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: down because the pump is on the back of the motor. 574 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: So the so the high point would have to be 575 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: the pump and the only way you're gonna make that 576 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: the high point because this should be the one with 577 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: the power steering cooler line that comes forward under the 578 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: front cradle. Yes, right, and you know it's you're playing 579 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: with that. You're trying to get the air out of 580 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: that portion of the cooler. So basically, if you can 581 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: stand the car on its nose, it would be better, 582 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: um you know. So either you've got to have hercules 583 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: come to the house tomorrow and need a spinach or 584 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: get a guy with a tow truck to lift it 585 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 1: off the back, um you know. Or parking on an 586 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: incline nose down and see what a slight incline so 587 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: that that's no problem. Now when you say turn the 588 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: wheels left, another question is you see people do it 589 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: with the engine off and just h no power going 590 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: to the to the car. Just turn it, you know, 591 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: with the ignition off? Or do I have then now 592 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: you've got you've got the engine running, you've added fluid. 593 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna need a long funnel to reach the power 594 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: steering pump in the back because it's gonna get close 595 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: to the exhaust manifold and it's warm and obviously you've 596 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: got to be concerned about you know, power steering fluid 597 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: reaches a flammable point. I don't think you'll get to 598 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: that if you're doing this on a cold engine and 599 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: start up. But it's the idea that gets some fluid 600 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: in there cycle the wheel. It should pick up prime 601 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: and start to move some fluid. I'm sure it will 602 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: whine like heck and make a lot of noise and 603 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: just you know, add some fluid cycle the wheel. Add 604 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: some fluid cycle the wheel. It's gonna be a foamy 605 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: mess in there. And then when you get to the 606 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: point where you think you've got enough fluid in there, 607 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: and I would have to venture, depending upon how much 608 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: you've lost, you're probably gonna put somewhere between a pint, 609 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: maybe a pint and a half in there, all right, 610 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: and obviously make sure you're using the right fluid um. 611 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: You know, I've taken to you know, here we go again, 612 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: vehicle specifics. I've taken to stock and GM. GM makes 613 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: a cold weather power were steering fluid. It seems to 614 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: hold up better even in the warm weather, and I've 615 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: I've taken to using that. It's available from any Delco supplier. 616 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember the part number at the top of 617 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: my head. It's been a while, but I know it's 618 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: out there. I can see it sitting on the shelf 619 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: at the shop. Um. And then when you park the car, 620 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: when you're done, leave it, park knows down, leave the 621 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: cap off and leave it. Leave it like that. Overnight. 622 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: Oh so the air just comes out naturally in theory, yeah, 623 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: the air should just burp out naturally. Overnight. Air is 624 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: always air is always going to seek its highest point. Well, 625 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: thank you. I mean I love listening to your show 626 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: up here in Connecticut. When I work in the afternoons 627 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: at the local trade school and I get bored, I 628 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: always put you on Itees and you Kidney Company. Thank you, sir. 629 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad to be there for you. Thank you. You 630 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: take good care. Um. Yeah, you know what. That's what 631 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: it's all about, folks, just trying to fix cars. Zoo 632 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: zero on eating the car doctor coming back right after this, me, 633 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: slipper blcome back, Carnocu. Let's go over to William and Wardloo. Iowa, William, 634 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: I've got three minutes, baby, what's going on? Hey? I 635 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: got a two thousand four Chevrolet Impala l S with 636 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: a engine in the camp camp position position center is 637 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: coming up on the O B D two computer zero 638 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: P zero three forty, William Yeah, P zero three fort okay, 639 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: so it's setting a camp position full and uh I 640 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: changed a camp position censor, and uh it's still dyeing, 641 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: just going down the road. And and when I started 642 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: up again, it starts extremely hard. And I I just 643 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: driving home and parked it, and I changed the crank 644 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: center along with the camp position sensor, and I don't 645 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: know where to go from here. Okay, So it's and 646 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's still got a P zero three forty 647 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: setting is a hard failure correct, all right? So here's 648 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: the deal. All right, um, do you know where you are? 649 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: You know where you are? Right? All right? You look up, 650 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: you look around, you know your position? All right? Okay, 651 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: the the cam shaft knows it's position, and it's trying 652 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: to tell the PCM, the main engine computer, Hey I'm 653 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: over here. It's trying to tell it where it's at. 654 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: So the computer has to look at that electronically, all right, 655 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: changing the sensor. What's what's part of that circuit? Like, 656 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: what's part of where are you Okay. Part of that 657 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: circuit is the censor. There's a trigger device, usually a 658 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: magnet on the inside of the sprocket or the engine. 659 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: All right, wiring harness in the PCM right the interrupter. Okay, 660 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: so you know is the interrupter there? Did you happen 661 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: to you know when the when the sensor was out, 662 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: that you cranked the engine over by hand as the 663 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: interrupter still on the inside. No, I gotta I gotta 664 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: do that. I it was so hard to look and 665 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: see to get a mirror in there. And you don't 666 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: have a scope by you don't have access to a 667 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: scope by chance, do you, William? I think my brother's 668 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: got one. He's a he's a contractor. I think I 669 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: can get one there. Okay, because you know there should 670 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: be a brown white wire all right, going going, um uh, 671 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: that's the CAM signal going into the ignition module. That 672 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: should that should be a square wave signal. That should 673 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: be square signal. And that's that's kind of what we've 674 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: got to do. We've got to break down the CAM 675 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: sensor and decide here's power, here's ground, here signal? Do 676 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: we have signal out? And we're either going to do 677 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: that using a scope. We're either going to do that 678 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: or we're gonna look on a scan tool. If and 679 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: I think you know four, we could actually get CAM 680 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: sensor signal in data stream. I think it was there 681 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: by then, all right, Or we're gonna do with the 682 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: hard way and stick our engine and stick our head 683 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: down inside the engine and look for the interrupter. Doesn't 684 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: necessarily mean we're still seeing the signal back at the PCM, 685 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: so you know it's still gonna take We've got to 686 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: look for a signal. I'm a lazy guy. The older 687 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: I get, I tend to try and do things the 688 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: easy way for my money. I look at a wiring diagram, 689 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: break down those three wires coming out of the CAMP sensor, 690 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: and like I said, I'd find the brown white and 691 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: look for a square wave signal coming out of that, 692 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: and um, you know, see what you got And if if, 693 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: if you don't have a signal, least you know you 694 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: gotta go this direction. If you do have a signal, 695 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: it's getting to the module now is it getting to 696 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: the PCM, And you know kind of work your way 697 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: backwards from there. But that's why you're setting the fault 698 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: that's why you're having a hard time start in the car. 699 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: Good luck to you, sir, I'm not an Indian the 700 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you