1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse the Clearinghouse of Hot Takes 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Maller starts right now in the air everywhere, and welcome 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: into the podcast do jo. The Fifth Hour with Ben 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Maller and Danny g Radio Black at it again and 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: we thank you for subscribing. And this podcast, if you 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: don't know by now, a spin off of the Overnight Show, 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: The Ben Maller Show, and it is only available in 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: the podcast format. You cannot get this on terrestrial radio. 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: As we are in the air everywhere thanks to the 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: vast power of my heart, the global reach of podcasting, 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: and every week, three podcasts the week and eight days 17 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: a week, because four hours a night are not enough 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: on the Overnight and you're going on to listen all 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: weekend because on Saturday I will tell the story I 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 1: have never told before. I did something for the first 21 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: time in my life last week and I did not 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: talk about this on the radio show, so I'll talk 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: about that tomorrow, but right now, we gotta get down 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: to business. Because I love radio. You know that it's 25 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: my job, it's my my life's passion. And I have 26 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: friends all over the country. I have made radio friends 27 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: that work at different stations, and one of my good 28 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: friends I talked about them quite a bit on the 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: radio show anytime I bring up Baltimore is someone I 30 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: refer to as Sports with Coleman. His name is Jerry Coleman. 31 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: We've had him on the podcast before. I was on 32 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: Jerry's radio show not that long ago. He had done 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: a night show in Baltimore. And the reason I wanted 34 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: to have Jerry on this week is mainly just so 35 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I could talk to him, because we're friends and I 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: have an excuse to talk to him on the podcast, 37 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: but also the fact that he was part of a 38 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: mass layoff at his radio station and a national radio 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: layoff at a competing company. Not I heart, but a 40 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: rival of my heart, and Jerry is one of the 41 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: good radio guys. He's done it all. He's a really 42 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: a Swiss army knife. We used that term for people 43 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: in sports, but in sports broadcasting, and Jerry is the 44 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: guy that will do a little bit of this, a 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: little bit of that, a little bit of everything. He's 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: worked all over the clock. He had done a night 47 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: show in Baltimore, He's done morning radio in that city. 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: He has has been in Baltimore radio for over a decade, 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: but he's worked over thirty years in the radio business. 50 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: And he got let go. He got the old pink 51 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: slip from his radio station last week and he joins 52 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: us now and Jerry, we have a saying in the 53 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: radio business when you're giving the pink slip, when you're 54 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: giving your walking papers, that you are on the beach. 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: But you are literally and figuratively taking that to the 56 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: next level, aren't you, Jerry correct? And as I speak 57 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: to you now, I am on the beach, not far 58 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: from Sarasta in Longboat Key, Florida, to be exact. So 59 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: I literally am and was on the beach today. I 60 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: am grateful in one aspect and that there was some 61 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: bloodshed from the company I worked at, and they did 62 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: alert me before I went on vacation, so um, in 63 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: other words, I would have found out in the middle 64 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: of my vacation had they not told me which I 65 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: think you know, it was a more humane way to 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: approach and this does nothing though Jerry, and I feel 67 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: terrible for you, but for my neurosis. And we've known 68 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: each other for for a number of years here. But 69 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: one of my things is I hate taking vacation because 70 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: when I was an intern in San Diego at the 71 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: mighty six ninety in my head, I'm not sure this 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: actually happened, but in my head, every time one of 73 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: the hosts took a vacation, they never came back from 74 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: vacation and they just they didn't say anything. And so 75 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: so when I found out what happened to you, which 76 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: was a terrible decision in my opinion, by the station 77 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. But when I found that out, I was like, whoa, 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: this is now. I can never take a vacation again. 79 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: I was like, in my head, I'm like, well that's it. 80 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't go anywhere. But you you handle 81 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: it very well. I give you credit, and I'm not 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: sure how you're enjoying your vacation. Is it? Okay? You've 83 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: been on it for a while as we're talking right now, 84 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: and this airing on a Friday, So you've been in 85 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: your tropical destination for a while. Are you able to compartmentalized, Jerry, 86 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: I am. Uh. Severance had a lot to do with that. 87 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: The conversation at a time before leaving, I think had 88 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot to do with that. I'm glad I didn't 89 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: get a phone call in the middle of this vacation 90 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: letting me know what unfortunately happened to a lot of 91 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: my colleagues around the country in multiple markets. So when 92 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: they did tell me that that it was, they actually 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: took me off and told me, you know, there's gonna 94 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: be more to come on Tuesday, whenever, whatever day it 95 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: was that they did it. And I was like, okay, 96 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: thank you for letting me know, and you know, kind 97 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: of when I went in one ear and out the other, 98 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: and then I realized, you know, okay, I was tipped 99 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: off at a time and they did, you know, in 100 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: a way helped me out. I mean, the fact that 101 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, I found out before I went on vacation, 102 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: um did put a little detriment on the vacation, but 103 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: hasn't completely runned it all together because actually, now I'll 104 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: extend it because is it's better than knowing I would 105 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: say in the middle or then I mean, you get 106 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: back and then you get the call and it's like, okay, 107 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: I didn't need to come back so soon, So there 108 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: is a benefit. I'm trying to be, you know, positive 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: in that aspect. I've been down this road before, bounce 110 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: back before. We'll see what's down the road in the horizon. 111 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: I assume there will be something I always has been. 112 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: It could be a presumption, but already, you know, I 113 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: received you know, correspondence from different people in different industries 114 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: and not necessarily radio about different possible avenues. So we 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: will see where that leads. But I was caught by 116 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: a surprise, and you know, in fact, they never give 117 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: you your last show on the radio, and I almost 118 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: really had that on on my last day on which 119 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: was a Thursday, and was let go via zoom on 120 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: a Friday. And I had a feeling that morning that 121 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: that was the case, and I probably had a feeling 122 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: that Thursday night when I did my last show that 123 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: that was the case. But I wasn't gonna do anything 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: to bern any bridges or rip anyone like that and 125 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: go out in a ball of flames because I do 126 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: want to work again. So I just took the high 127 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: road and and did that be a social media and uh, 128 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: let it go from there, because I think that's the 129 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: best way to go about it. Uh, no grudges. I 130 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: think I've been you know, I don't think it was right, 131 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: Uh in terms of what I brought to the table, 132 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: and in terms of sen only hosting, but covering teams, 133 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: doing sports updates. Um, there was just a variety of 134 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: things that I did for the radio station over well 135 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: over a decade, more close to thirteen years, just over 136 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: twelve that you know, I thought sometimes were overrooked. And 137 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,559 Speaker 1: maybe this will be a blessing in disguise, we will see. 138 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: But what a treat it was to be able to 139 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: host your own show in your hometown, choose the guest list, 140 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: have complete show control, excuse me of the as you say, 141 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: sports talk, real estate, and really not have any micromanaging. 142 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: And that was the case until the Yam you know. 143 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean I've heard from all sorts of people within 144 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: the company reminding me was not performance or rating to 145 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: relate it, and it certainly wasn't. It was an unfortunate 146 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: aspect of the business and where it is at times 147 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, it's the business is not in a 148 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: good place. We'll get to that. Well, we're getting into 149 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: it now, but we'll talk more about it. So you 150 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: had a premonition, you had a feeling that the end 151 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: was near, and I had something similarly. The only way 152 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: you get a final show is if it's leaked in 153 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: the New York Post or you're retiring, right, I was 154 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: on the air years ago. For those that maybe haven't 155 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: heard the story before that listened to this podcast, but 156 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Jerry knows the story. So back in oh nine there 157 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: was a presidential election result, well the election was an 158 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: OH eight, but the result was announced in oh nine 159 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: or the the the changing of the guard, changing of 160 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: the president happened in oh nine. It is, I believe, 161 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: the second term of Barack Obama. But at that time, 162 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: the day before, I remember exactly the date. It was 163 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: the day before. I think January twenty one is the 164 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: date they change presidents. I believe it's sometimes, yeah, sometime 165 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: in January, and uh yeah. Politically, we don't try to 166 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: avoid politics now on the podcast. We used to talk 167 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: about politics, but I I was respected, I still respect 168 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: the presidency, and I always liked watching the the ceremony 169 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: from d C and so I it was the night 170 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: before and I was planning on watching the ceremony we 171 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: were doing the show, and there was a headline of 172 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: a bulletin that came. This is the early day as 173 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: of Twitter, but there was a story from the New 174 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: York Post that there were going to be mass uh 175 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: mash mass casualties, layoffs whatever at the company that I 176 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: was working for, that they were going to be announced 177 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: like the next day, right. So I somebody had sent 178 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: me the story actually via a text message, and one 179 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: of my friends in the business, and I was right 180 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: before the show was about to start, and and so 181 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: I I, of course, being the schmuck that I am, 182 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: I sent the story. I forwarded it onto everyone else 183 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: that was working on the show. And uh. And then 184 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: about about ten fifteen minutes in the show, I get 185 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: an email from one of the bosses. Now, no one 186 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: ever emails me. And now you know, Jerry, you did nights. 187 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: You know you don't. You do not get contacted after 188 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: work hours like nine to five. That's a red flag 189 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: if you do get contact. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm in 190 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: my head, I'm connecting the dots here. I'm like, okay, uh, 191 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: let's see, I got somebody sent me a story from 192 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: The New York Post saying the company I work for 193 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: is gonna lay off and get rid of all these people. Uh. 194 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: And then ten minutes fifteen minutes later, I get an 195 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: email from my boss saying there's a mandatory meeting the 196 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: next morning that I have to be at. And I said, well, 197 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not that bright, but I think I 198 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: can connect the pieces here. I think we've got something. 199 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: And my my producer was losing his mind. He's like, 200 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm gonna be He'd never been fired before, 201 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: the never lost a job. He actually ended up running. 202 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: He's an assistant program director at a radio station. Now 203 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: they had we had an intern that had just started. 204 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: He relocated. Kid from Boston had relocated, moved to l 205 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: It was his first night working on my show. And 206 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: oh goodness, he got he got he got. Kid moved 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: all the way to l A for one night. Yeah. So, like, 208 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: what happened to your team? Jar? Are they still there? 209 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: Are they? Have you talked to your your producer? I know? 210 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, well yeah, I mean yeah yeah. They 211 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: all survived. And producers that I worked with over the years, 212 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: and people that I helped out that such some very 213 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: nice things on social d on you know, some of 214 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: the things I passed along to him over the years. 215 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: But the premonition came from the fact that my boss 216 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: was also going on vacation and this person was like, no, 217 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: I really would like to meet with you on Friday 218 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: morning before we go away on vacation. I just think 219 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: it's important we talked before you go away. And I 220 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 1: had requested a meeting um weeks ago and left it 221 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: alone and didn't even follow up with it. And this 222 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: was titled a catchup meeting, just catching up, and I 223 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: swear to God, within thirty seconds I was I was 224 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: done of within the zoom meeting and I said, wow, 225 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: I you know, I thought you would do something like 226 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: this face to face. And the person indicated something that 227 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: actually rang true, you know, and I'll give him. They 228 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: said they didn't want to waste my time, had me 229 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: drive all the way with gas prices lay there right now, 230 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: I appreachd drive all the way in just to tell 231 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: you you're terminated. So it was all done via zoom now, 232 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: and the human resources person was all line as well 233 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: and bing bang boom, and it was over. Well that 234 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: is nice because they made us all drive in one 235 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: Karen Kay, who you know who I worked with for 236 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: a while. KK. I love KK because KK, you know 237 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: season professional radio woman. She also knew we were getting 238 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: uh we were getting pole axed that day and she said, 239 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm not driving in. I'm not driving to get told 240 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm not working there anymore. And she didn't do it, 241 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: and uh, I still I love the fact that she 242 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: repelled at that at that particular moment. Well, the cool 243 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: thing now and I didn't have this the last time 244 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: I got Uh, I got whacked in the businesses that 245 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: with social media now and I was gonna say, well, 246 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: send a message to your listeners. But you can keep 247 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: track of a lot of your fans, your a via Twitter, 248 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: which is another social media which has gotta be great 249 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: that you know, whenever you get your next gig, wherever 250 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: it is, whatever platform it happens to be, you can 251 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: let people know. And for so long in our business, 252 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: as you referenced, when you get let go, you don't 253 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: get to say goodbye. They don't allow you to to 254 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: have a final opportunity in in radio to say goodbye 255 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: to your to your listeners. And so you at least 256 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: have a chance to connect with a lot of people 257 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: via social media, as you said, people were reaching out 258 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: to you. So that's gotta be nice that, you know, 259 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: six months down the line, a year down line, whatever 260 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: it is, you get your next job, hopefully sooner after 261 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: your seference runs out. Whenever that is, uh, you can 262 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: bring the bring the band back together, right, You've got 263 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: that going for you. That is definitely possible. And if 264 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: I were to go to the podcast route, I don't 265 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: know if that would interfere with some of the terms 266 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: of the sefferance, so that could be something that I do. 267 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna do it for the heck of it, 268 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: just like you don't do it for the heck of it. 269 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we all like to here are voices and 270 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: all that. Frankly, after thirty two years on the radio 271 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and you know, worrying about your next job, after using 272 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: your previous job, I decided, you know, I'm going to 273 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: keep pursuing. I'm not giving up, but I'm also not 274 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: going to jump right back in at the first thing 275 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: that's thrown my way. I'm going to enjoy some time off, regroup, 276 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: hopefully have something by the time football season goes, because 277 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: it's the very important time and that that was the 278 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: downside is you know, I've been out covering the Ravens 279 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: and I have to tell you, you know, the Oils 280 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: have been nice in terms of some of the responses 281 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: I've gotten, But Man of Baltimore Ravens a team that 282 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: I know you'd like to pick on at times. And 283 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: I have taken so many shots at this team, yet 284 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: they have rhino skin, as you like to say. Because 285 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: I've heard from so many people in that organization, very 286 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: high up, even you know, the PR department. Um, they 287 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: still have invited me to come out to their practices, 288 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: games and all that. Frankly, I appreciate that, but I 289 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: told them I'm probably gonna be reluctant in doing that. 290 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: If I'm not working, I don't see a reason to 291 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: be out there. But I appreciate the invite, being able 292 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: to be around the team and all that, But after 293 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: thirty some years, I just want to make it as 294 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: part of a job and not just go out there 295 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: and you know, play grab bass as you say, and 296 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, just be around the players and the coach 297 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: and hear what they have to say. I can do 298 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: that from a distance too, So yeah, probably not going 299 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: to do that again until I'm actually gainfully employed. But 300 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: very classy of them to do that, and the Orioles 301 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: are honoring my credential as well. I just kind of hurt, 302 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: not as much as as the Ravens, but that just 303 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: maybe a set of circumstances where the team has been 304 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: on the road. But I do appreciate. You know, you 305 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: got a chance, like you to be able to work 306 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: in your home town where you were raised. You know, 307 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: that's that's a dream come true. Yeah, no, it's great. 308 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: And I do give the Ravens credit, even though I 309 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: will continue to bash them that they uh, they at 310 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: least handle things the right ways, as I have tried 311 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: to say to people who I know. For example, I 312 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: ripped the Lakers all the time, and the Lakers have 313 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: been still allow me out there if I want to go. 314 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't go as much anymore, uh, just because I 315 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: don't know anybody in the in the the Beat report. 316 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: I used to know all the Beat reporters back in 317 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: the day, and everyone used to go out there, and 318 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: I go out there and it's I don't know anybody 319 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: as far you know, just about I have. There's only 320 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: a few people I know. But the Lakers been okay. 321 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: But that's the thing, Jerry, like these teams, we play 322 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: a role as the critic in the upper balcony and 323 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: they're the ones that are rolling in money. And it's 324 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: it's a nice marriage though it's okay. It's you don't 325 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: have to be confrontational. And there's a lot of places 326 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: and we know teams, Jerry that have have spat Louis 327 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: at guys. Uh, the the Angels a great example, the Angel. 328 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: You talk about the Angels, and I would say the 329 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: equivalent of that is the NFL t down that that's 330 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: the closest of Baltimore. It can be very spiteful as well. Yeah, 331 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: so that's good to hear about the the Raven. Are 332 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: we gonna be able to continue to spar about Lamar Jackson. 333 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: We've had a few text conversations, we've talked on the phone. 334 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: We've sure. I mean everything, I think everything I've said 335 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: and predicted is currently still true as we're speaking right now. 336 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: I do not anticipate a contract coming. The guy is 337 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna make twenty three million dollars this year, and that's 338 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: more he's made in any year in his entire life. 339 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: If you were to say that then, uh, he would 340 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: be set for life if you were to invest it 341 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: the right way. But this is a guy that doesn't 342 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: have an agent, plays in a town in Baltimore. We're 343 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: the most popular player on the team right now, is 344 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: the kicker. I can't think of any other NFL market 345 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: where that's the case with Justin Tucker has all the endorsements, 346 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: he has a new contract. Um, he's already being called 347 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: the goat, which I'm always uncomfortable with calling a player 348 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, except maybe Tom Brady while 349 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: they're still playing. But Lamar is us gonna go out 350 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: and I think play football and gamble on himself, and 351 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: he better hope he doesn't get hurt because it'll be 352 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: the most expensive injury in NFL history. And again, doesn't 353 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: have any deals in terms of endorsements or anything outside 354 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: of just playing football, because either he's stubborn or his 355 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: mother's stubborn, or they're stubborn together. But not having an 356 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: age and continues sir that what's it like being around Lamar? 357 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: You've covered a few quarterbacks in your time in in radio. 358 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: What's the day to day like with Lamar Jackson? And well, 359 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: some people think he has like this magical touch you 360 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: know about him, and he's not a funny personality and everything. 361 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's great in terms of getting a 362 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: lot of content because when you do listen to him talk, 363 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: it's just very brief answers. But I mean just being 364 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: around him in terms of personality. Likes to crack jokes, 365 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, and also makes you realize how old you 366 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: are been because he's in his young twenties, and you know, 367 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: he reads the stuff he posts on social media, but 368 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: it's very hard to relate to him as someone who's 369 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: almost twice his age, if not a little bit further 370 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: than that. So that's the difference between a lot of 371 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: today's athletes and and the way I look at things, 372 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: it's like a totally different generation. Some of the stuff 373 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: they post on social media, you know, is either above 374 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: my pay grade or I just you know, it's a 375 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: parallel universe, and the generation levide. At what point did 376 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: that happen for you? It happens for everyone a little differently. 377 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: But I I know from my time and I did 378 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: the same job that you had early on. We were 379 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: both radio stringers, radio reporters, so we were in locker 380 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: rooms quite often doing our thing. And and I'm trying 381 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: to like, at what point when guys started retiring that 382 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: I was around like every day. That was the first sign. 383 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: But then when you saw players kids get to the 384 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: big leagues, I was like, wait a minute, what what 385 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: is going on here? And that happened. You know, obviously 386 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: it takes twenty years or whatever, but at that point, 387 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, this is well, there's prime, there's prime 388 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: examples everywhere. It's funny you mention that because Orlando Brown Jr. 389 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: I covered SEUs his father when he was with the 390 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: Ravens after he had left the Browns. He made all 391 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: that money if you get hit the eye by the 392 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: penalty flag and all that he was. He was a 393 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: wild character. And then his son comes to the Ravens 394 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: and is there for a cup of coffee before wanting 395 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: more money trying to play left tackle. I mean you 396 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: mentioned Vladimir or Guerrero Senior. I was just talking with 397 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: someone today about he was the worst ball hitter I've 398 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: ever seen, and you know, now his kids playing and 399 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: making more money than he is. So yeah, it does 400 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: make you feel kind of old. But also when you 401 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: read some of these tweets and posts on social media, 402 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: it's like I don't even understand, you know, when you 403 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: read them aloud, especially on the radio, it's like, I understand, 404 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: you only have a certain number of characters you can use, 405 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: but sometimes it's like you're reading something from another world 406 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: or another universe. So it's hard to decipher a lot 407 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: of this. And then you try to ask for clarity 408 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: at a press conference and you don't get much there. So, yeah, 409 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: that's a strange thing about social media and some of 410 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: the language that's used on there and the lingo, and 411 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, you just have to try and figure it 412 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: out for yourself or maybe speak to someone who's twenty 413 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: years younger than you. You need a Dakota ring, Jerry. 414 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: You've got to get one of those Dakota rings, and 415 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: you have to on the fly be able to interpret 416 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: and change words around to make them broadcast friendly. I 417 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: believe so. But now that you are, for the moment 418 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: on the beach from your gig in Baltimore, and who knows, 419 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: maybe you'll get another gig in Baltimore. But until that happens, 420 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: will you now admit on the record on the Fifth 421 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Hour podcast here that the cal Ripken. Kevin Costner's story, 422 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: the urban legend was legit that it actually happened that 423 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: the night the power went down at Camden Yards. That 424 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: was because of an incident, a brew haha, a ker 425 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: fluffle that took place between actor Kevin Costner and Cal Ripken. 426 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: Right now that I know you were headed down that 427 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: avenue is as I heard you say, well you finally 428 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: admit you do realize on your own network years ago, 429 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: didn't Kevin Costn call in at one point to your network? 430 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, ye, more than sure. He called in 431 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: after one of your hosts and I don't know if 432 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: it was you or someone else repeated that ridiculous story, 433 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: and he called in to defend it. Uh No, I 434 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: will not concede that. Having been there at the ballpark 435 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: that night, I just think that's posterous. I saw the 436 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: guy before the game. I don't believe he left the 437 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: ballpark to go home to beat up Kevin Costner. No, 438 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm just not he didn't go home. Jerry the way, 439 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: and I the reason I buy the story he walked 440 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: in on him as part of the not not hold 441 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: us all right? So I eat after that happened, it 442 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: might even be the night of, but I think it 443 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: was the night after. It was the night I was 444 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: they were playing. Yeah, it was. It was a big 445 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: say and the Mariners had a great team and they 446 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: were they were a sexy team at that time. That's 447 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: how long ago this was. The Orioles actually were considered 448 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: a model franchise still, although they had kind of gonne 449 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: down a little bit. And so I was covering the 450 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: Dodgers though, So I'm I'm on the West coast and 451 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: a buddy of mine comes up to me says, You're 452 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: not gonna believe what happened in Baltimore. And he says, 453 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: I just got off the phone with uh, you know 454 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: person X will Say, who happens to be somewhat connected 455 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: to the ownership in Baltimore, who said, hey, this is 456 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: what he gave you, the whole story. It was like 457 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: right away, the story was right there, and and then 458 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, I was like okay, and people's of course 459 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: denied it. But that thing had amazing legs. But the 460 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: story was Ripkin was he had Costner staying at his 461 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: house and and they were golfing or whatever, and then 462 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: he had to go to the ballpark and on his 463 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: way to the ballpark. He had forgotten something that he 464 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: needed and he came back to the house and he 465 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: walked in and he saw Kevin Costner doing something that 466 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: most people who are in in cal Ripkins situation would 467 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: not appreciate. And uh, and then it was on and 468 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: there was like a little sparring match that took place there. 469 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: But again, I recall seeing them and maybe even speaking 470 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: with them before the game that day. No indication there 471 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: was power out in that blocked area at Camden. You know, 472 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: the massive conspiracy we're talking about here is you know, 473 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean multiple levels that would have to go. And 474 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: again I just well know, yeah, the conspiracy is that 475 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: the Orioles somebody made a phone call to the power 476 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: company there or in Baltimore and they shut the power out. 477 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: Has got the cord that happened since as they had 478 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: they had a power outage, there hasn't Now, there was 479 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: There was a power outage when a train hit a 480 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: power generator one time. I do remember that. That was 481 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: the only other time the power was out in fact 482 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: at any I know we had the Super Bowl thing 483 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: where they lost power of the Ravens and I was 484 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: there in New Orleans yeah, but and that was only 485 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: half the stadium by the way, It wasn't like we 486 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: were in the dark and I couldn't see the person 487 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: next to me. That was a bit exaggerated, But nonetheless 488 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough to play football for a while. Yeah, yeah, 489 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: but but I'm trying to think, like, how many other 490 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: times had they had to cancel the game completely because 491 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: the power went out? Uh? And probably in the history 492 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: of the yard that's a great question. That might be 493 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: the outlier there. They didn't they didn't play, they didn't 494 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: play it. They didn't play a fanless game in the 495 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: middle of riots going on around town. But yeah, that 496 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: was I don't think that's uh, I don't think that's 497 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: been repeated. And so no, I do understand your skepticism then, 498 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: but well, not only have you know off to wait 499 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: for the movie or documentary to come out on that places, 500 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: well everyone and everyone's gonna have to die before that happens. 501 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: But but do you think Kevin Popsker would play himself 502 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: in that movie? Hey, if the checks big enough, man 503 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: Ti Tao is playing. He's in a documentary about being 504 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: catfish at Notre Dame back in the day. So how much. 505 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: Do you think he's getting paid? Man, I will add that. 506 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: I will add that cow has remarried. Ah, there you go, 507 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: adding on. But this was years later, years later, water 508 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: unto the bridge. Okay, all right, I maintained. I am convinced. 509 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: I buy it hook line and sinker, just like I 510 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: buy that the Patrick Ewing NBA Draft lottery was fixed 511 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: for the Knicks, and they still didn't win the championship 512 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: even with being given Ewing because they froze the envelope, 513 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: the frozen on the Yeah, you're still going with that theory. 514 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what other theories out there are 515 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: still being perpetuated till this day. Oh, there's great. I believe. 516 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: I believe a lot of Michael Jordan's was suspended from 517 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: the NBA for gambling. Gambling. He then played minor league 518 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: baseball in Birmingham, Alabama. Would also like to let you know, Jerry, 519 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: I got a Birmingham Baron's hat added to my collection. 520 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: I collect b hats and the old the one Jordan 521 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: war the old Birmingham Baron's hat from back in the day. 522 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: But but I believe that Jordan was suspended, but they 523 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to. They didn't want to shame him publicly, 524 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: so David Stern and the NBA hierarchy got together and 525 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: they came up with this fugazi minor league baseball thing. 526 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: So I buy that one. I buy the ripping one, 527 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: the ewing one. What other great sports conspiracies have there 528 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: been here? I'm trying to think now, I'm really racking 529 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: my brain to think of just again outrageous conspiracy ease 530 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: in the Annals of Sports. You know, that's why they said, 531 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: Um Jordan's father was killed as payback. That was also 532 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: part of it. Um when when he lost his father 533 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: very strangely in that situation. Yes, uh yeah, Now, anything 534 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 1: that's happened with Tiger Woods I don't believe as accurate 535 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: from the uh incident outside his driveway in Orlando with 536 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: his What was that was that it was a holiday night. 537 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes, I was on the air and oh, 538 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: like I still remember a call I took the night 539 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: that happened. Of course, I I went insane to the 540 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: membrane with wall the wall. I never do four hours 541 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: on the same topic if I can avoid it. But 542 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: it was Thanksgiving. It was we Thanksgiving weekend, and I 543 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: know there was football, but I just kept going back 544 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: to Tiger Woods, and he got chased and there was 545 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: a car accident and all that stuff. I believe all 546 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: that because that happened again to him where he was 547 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: under the influence and couldn't drive his car. And I 548 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: do believe, I do believe he wasn't. You know, I 549 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: don't think he was a thousand percent sober when he 550 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: drove off a cliff and in southern California either no, no, no, 551 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: I they found a bottle of pills like that were 552 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: fell out of the car on that Tiger has been 553 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: able to to dodge a lot of a lot of trouble. 554 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: But I I remember ranting about that, and I had 555 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: a caller who said, why are you talking about this? 556 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: Nobody cares, nobody believes t MZ. This didn't happen, you know. 557 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: It's it's that It's just like when I ripped Rafael 558 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: Palmero back in the day after he the day after 559 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned this the other day on the on the 560 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: radio show, but he had gotten his three thousand hit. 561 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: It was like a Friday night in Seattle, and I 562 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: remember that I was listening to your show and covering 563 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: the team and I was there when he did his 564 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: to not probably one of the and I feel comfortable 565 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: in saying this on your podcast. When it comes to intellect, 566 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I would say Rafael Palmerro still rates is probably one 567 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: of the top five dumbest athletes I've ever had to 568 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: cover in terms of responses and quotes and even trying 569 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: to lie. I mean, he was terrible at that. Yeah, 570 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: he got he got burned. But I came on the 571 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: next next afternoon. I was doing like a fill in 572 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: shift on the in the afternoon, and I I said, well, 573 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: how do we know that Palmero is this is a 574 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: legitimate thing, this this is a clean thing. And uh, 575 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: people from your neck of the woods there, Jerry from 576 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: from the state of Maryland called up and they had 577 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: the traditional accent going and they were like, yes, you know, 578 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: this is why you're doing weekend radio. You know, you 579 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: know there's there's nothing Palmero. No, he's not cheating all 580 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: this stuff. And then shortly thereafter we know what happened. 581 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it, because you know, we were led 582 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: to believe that the steroid player was you know, all 583 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: bulked up and had the back act and all. He 584 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: didn't fit the characteristics. But then it made sense and 585 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: then uh, I remember mcguel Tahada being involved saying that, 586 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, he spiked the shot of his and both 587 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: of those guys became pariahs around the organization and we're 588 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: never really back. Rafael palm Arrow has never been invited 589 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: back for anything. So they just celebrated the thirty year 590 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: anniversary of Camden Yards and his name was never mentioned. 591 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: Not that he had well he did. I mean he 592 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: had some milestone moments in that ballpark. He's one of 593 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: the few players they hit five hundred home runs and 594 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: three thousand hits, but you know, no one really talks 595 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: about that because he's a cheater. Yeah. Well, and that's 596 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: the future of Fernando Tatis Jr. Like the Padre fans 597 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: will be okay with him as long as he hits, 598 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: but everyone else it's gonna be vicious. Well that's again, 599 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: that's that's one of those like you know, we have 600 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: our fun with Kyler Murray and you look at towns 601 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: like that. I guess it's gonna be hard for me 602 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: to work in towns, certain towns if I start making 603 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: fun of him. But you know, there are towns that 604 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: have never won a championship, and it's just hard to 605 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: imagine that when you've been fortunate to be around teams 606 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: that have won championships, you know you should never take 607 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: that for granted. I mean, I been able to cover 608 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: two super Bowls. Your rams are just coming off winning 609 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: a super Bowl at home. You look at towns like 610 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland and San Diego and Arizona and Buffalo, and they've 611 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: been waiting their entire lives. Yeah, no, it is. It 612 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: is true. But the the thing I have noticed from 613 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: doing the Overnight Show over the years is the tribalism 614 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: is next level in certain towns. It's why Houston, Phoenix, Uh, Cleveland. 615 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: I've had many battles. Heck, even in your old neck 616 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: of the woods there in Baltimore where you live. Oh, 617 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: they circle the wagons, they circle the wagon. I ripped, 618 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: I made some I made some jokes about ray Lewis 619 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: actually the last that Super Bowl against the forty Niners, 620 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: and guys were very upset with me. Is threatening me. 621 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: I just thought of another conspiracy theory, though I had forgotten. 622 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: A few minutes ago. In Sports Game six of the 623 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals in like twenty years ago, Lakers and Kings. Yes, 624 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: that and that was Now Tim Donnie, I do not 625 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: believe he actually worked the game, but Tim Donnie, he 626 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: claimed that was that was a fixed job to keep 627 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: Sacramento out, to keep Sacramento from going to the championship round. Yeah, yeah, 628 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: so I I buy that one. I buy that one another. 629 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: David S. Stern Special, I guess so you got too 630 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: out his plate right now? Yeah, And and what's they 631 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: what do they say? Pirates, dead men, tell no tales. Right, 632 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: he's not here, he can't be here to defend himself. 633 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, there's there's there's nothing going on. 634 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: He's he's moved on. He's he's checked out there. And 635 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: that's the way that goes. So uh as far as 636 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: the radio stuff, getting back to the radio business and 637 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: the radio said, we've been in the business a long time, Jerry, 638 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: I love radio. You know. Now it's a lot of 639 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: podcasting and radio. They've been able to companies have been 640 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: able to figure out that, you know, not only is 641 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: it the live show, but you can listen whenever you 642 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: want on demand, like on podcasts like this, which is 643 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: really good, and you know, you don't have to just 644 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: listen when the show is on live you can listen 645 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: anytime you want. But I would I would love to 646 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: see the the great epiphany in the radio business because unfortunately, 647 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the decisions that are made at the 648 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: upper management level are not in the best interests of radio. 649 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: And I've got a threat of needle here, Jerry, as 650 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: you know, but uh, you know, there's just things that 651 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: could be made that are better for the listener, better 652 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: for the people that work in the business, and I 653 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know what it's gonna take to get back to that. 654 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: And I feel like there's a lot of money that 655 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: could be made for everyone involved in the business if 656 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: better decisions were made. And uh, I'm I'm hopeful, but 657 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: not not hopeful anytime soon that will get to that point. 658 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: But the leadership it really needs to kind of rethink 659 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: things in this business because you compare it to some 660 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: of the other entertainment industries and I feel like we're 661 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: the caboose in the back and it shouldn't be that way, Jerry. 662 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: My opinion should not be that way. I'm a radio purist. 663 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: I love I agree with you. I agree with you. 664 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's an outdated concept in a 665 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: lot of ways. And you have worked different shifts, just 666 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: like I have. And you know I've done morning Drive, 667 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: I've done afternoon Drive, but on in the evenings, when 668 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: you're on after about six or seven pm East Coast 669 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: time at night, you know, management isn't usually listening their 670 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: home with their families, either eating dinner or out to 671 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: dinner or watching TV. And sometimes you're a forgotten person. 672 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: And I made the decision and was a conscious front 673 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: elite point drive because I did not want to be 674 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: waking up at three in the morning, uh, for the 675 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: rest of my life. But by doing that, I you know, 676 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: forgot a lot of money and a lot of a 677 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: lot in terms of moving and time shifts and realizing that, 678 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times when my show ended, 679 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: I do maybe one of two or three people in 680 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: the building left, you know, the radio, the r the 681 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: sister stations within the within the corporation, we're all just 682 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: you know, music oriented, just running, you know, automatically. So 683 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: I was the only live voice on the air until 684 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: I signed off. And you know, that got to be 685 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: a little I wouldn't say, you know, bothersome, but just 686 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: depressing and that you know, there was no one around 687 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: and speak to and I was used to that for 688 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: a while, but then I got you saw st of 689 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: the fact of just being left alone. And I was 690 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: one of the advantages is, you know, with the shift 691 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: you have, but when you come into the radio station, 692 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: you have people around you that you can have conversations 693 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: with during the break and it's nice to have that, 694 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: or you know, have some people floating around the building 695 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 1: besides the people that are just cleaning up the building. Yeah, 696 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: well I don't even see that. I don't even see 697 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: the people cleaning up the building. They're done by by 698 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: the time. No, no, no. And it's the funniest thing. 699 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I've gone back to the main studio 700 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: about half the time, and uh and I just it 701 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: it fastests I walk in there and there's no one. 702 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the only people there are the people on 703 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: on the show, you know who who. You know, Eddie 704 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: has to be there because of some technical stuff, and 705 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: Roberto has to be there and because of their jobs 706 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: they have to be there. But it was it really 707 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy because it used to be back in the olders, 708 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: there were people coming and going all the time. It 709 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: was like a a be a bee hive, you know, 710 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: it's a lot of activity going on, but but not anymore. 711 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: Just I've taken enough of your time. I know you're 712 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: on vacation. I appreciate you hanging out with us and 713 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: keep me posted. Obviously we're friends, so you're gonna let 714 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: me know what happens. And hopefully you can get a 715 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: gig somewhere in Baltimore. But if not, somebody's gonna get 716 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: a great broadcast or whether it's podcasting me. I hope 717 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: we don't lose you in in radio. I hope you 718 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: continue on in radio. But if you just go to 719 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: a podcast, I hope you make a killing on that. 720 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: And uh, and thanks for If I were a betting man, Yeah, 721 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: if I were a betting man, and I bet that 722 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: I'd eventually be on the radio and crack the mic 723 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: on the radio again. When that happens, nobody knows, including me, 724 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: including the person who probably may hire me next. We 725 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: will see. But you know, the gambling industry is really 726 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: opening up. One day it will reach your state and 727 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: the state I'm in in Florida, and then I really 728 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: think it will take off. So you know, I'm looking 729 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: forward to doing some things that involve that. Uh. I 730 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: enjoy that as much as you do. And you know, 731 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the podcasting world has its advantages, as you know, 732 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: because you control what you get to say there. You 733 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: don't really have big brother watching over you. And you 734 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: can wrap it up right now with me if you 735 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: wanted to, or we could go another seventeen minutes, but 736 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: I know we're not going to do no exactly. That's 737 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: a great thing. Like radio, I do. I do four 738 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: hours a night. You did, uh, you know, I don't 739 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: know how long. What is your show? Three hours? Three 740 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: or four hours? Something like that? You did did a lot, 741 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: depending depending on if there was a game. Yeah, it 742 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: was usually four, but there was a game, we'd have 743 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: a pregame show, so it'll be three. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, 744 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: podcast most this podcast, these things are like thirty thirty 745 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: five minutes. When I go too long, my boss to 746 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: say no, no, no. A podcast helps to be about 747 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Don't go too much longer than thirty minutes 748 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 1: because that's all that's all they want, so correct. Yeah, 749 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: all right, Well we'll get out on that. Jerry, thank 750 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: you and good luck. We'll talk to you next time. Thanks, 751 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: but thanks for having me in to be able to 752 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: follow Brent Musburger is one of the great honors of 753 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: my career. Just one week after the great brient Musburger Um, 754 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: thanks for having me, Ben, and you know I'll be 755 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: listening and we'll be in touch well. And Musburger was 756 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: on vacation and you're on vacation, so we have you 757 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: have that in common. Again, a parallel universe, but I 758 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: appreciate the comparison.