Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May sixteenth.
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Speaker 5: J P.
Speaker 1: Chadrack and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour on
Speaker 1: this Thursday, May sixteenth. JP Shadwick with you. Busy hour
Speaker 1: coming up. The schedule has been announced. Yes, it's out
Speaker 1: there now, so we'll talk about it coming up. All
Speaker 1: seventeen games over eighteen weeks. Phase two, the off season
Speaker 1: program is winding down. In fact, it ended today. Players
Speaker 1: off tomorrow and then Phase three begins on Monday. We'll
Speaker 1: discuss some of that coming up. PFF analysts Max Chadwick
Speaker 1: will break down the Jaguars draft class college football analyst
Speaker 1: for Pro Football Focus. We'll keep it real as always,
Speaker 1: and the Microsoft questions coming a little bit earlier today
Speaker 1: because John Oser is in with us today and good afternoon.
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Speaker 6: Well, because that's that's like when your mom would leave
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Speaker 1: We've got a long schedule of shows that it Monday. Right,
Speaker 1: We're on ten to next lam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars
Speaker 1: YouTube JP Shadwick, that's John Osher, Jeff Logman out this week.
Speaker 1: I'll be back with us next week. Lots to get to,
Speaker 1: of course, the community huddles have begun with the stadium
Speaker 1: negotiations going on. We'll get to the schedule of those
Speaker 1: coming up in just a little bit. But the schedule
Speaker 1: has been announced by the NFL. That was officially eight
Speaker 1: o'clock last night, and we went through it on our
Speaker 1: schedule release program on Jaguars YouTube. But if you weren't
Speaker 1: able to join it, we can kind of recreate things
Speaker 1: right here, John, you and I we'll go through.
Speaker 3: Let's start the sausages, mate, That is exactly how it's made.
Speaker 1: We'll start off with the early part of the schedule
Speaker 1: and weeks one through five the Jaguars at the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Week one to start things off at one o'clock, Week
Speaker 1: two home against the Browns, Week three Monday Night football
Speaker 1: against the Bills on the road, and then week four
Speaker 1: at the Texans, Week five at home against the Colts.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what for starting stretches as far
Speaker 1: as they're concerned in the NFL. This is right there.
Speaker 1: It's got to be close to one of the most
Speaker 1: difficult in the league, with three of those first four
Speaker 1: on the road, and all the first four playoff teams.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you knew that it was going to be a
Speaker 6: on paper, tough schedule because of the way the AFC
Speaker 6: South ended last year.
Speaker 3: Meaning you know, two.
Speaker 6: Years ago the Jaguars finished first and I'm not sure
Speaker 6: anybody else in the division was above five hundred, So
Speaker 6: you were going to play all your division games were
Speaker 6: going to be against teams below five hundred. This year,
Speaker 6: two of them were above. So it was going to
Speaker 6: add on. Ten of seventeen teams have winning records last year,
Speaker 6: so five of them happened to be in that first
Speaker 6: four or you know, JP. Sometimes I get criticized by fans, that's.
Speaker 3: Why you hard for you to believe.
Speaker 6: But some people wrote to me today, you know, I
Speaker 6: read your analysis. So it's really negative, you know, really
Speaker 6: negative about the schedule. It's not negative. I just think
Speaker 6: the first five games, no matter how thin you slice it,
Speaker 6: they're tough. And you've got four division or not four
Speaker 6: division teams, but four playoff teams in your first four
Speaker 6: weeks and three of those are on the road. That
Speaker 6: doesn't mean you can't win them. It means that when
Speaker 6: you're trying to analyze the schedule, that sticks out, and
Speaker 6: you know, every one of these teams on the first
Speaker 6: five their fans, their team correctly believes they're.
Speaker 3: Going to the playoffs.
Speaker 6: You know, some of the ones later in the season.
Speaker 6: It would take a little bit of some serious improvement
Speaker 6: those five teams early in the season. You know me, JP,
Speaker 6: You've had to read my analysis for ten years now.
Speaker 6: Teams that think they're in it and believe are by
Speaker 6: nature tough. Every one of these teams thinks they're good.
Speaker 6: Every one of these teams has reason to think they're good.
Speaker 6: Going to Miami, they're fast.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're the fastest team in football.
Speaker 6: You come back against almost I'm not saying the Browns
Speaker 6: aren't fast, but they play different. The Browns want to
Speaker 6: beat you up. The Bills have a quarterback that can
Speaker 6: beat you up by himself. And then the Texans is
Speaker 6: a red letter circle of game.
Speaker 1: So it's we're gonna find out about this new defense
Speaker 1: pretty quick. Well, I mean, especially against the Dolphins. How
Speaker 1: do they cover Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle and Tua
Speaker 1: throwing it up and all these things, and that's a
Speaker 1: right out of the gate. Ryan Nielsen's defense will be
Speaker 1: put to the test.
Speaker 6: You know, I've sort of shifted my belief a little
Speaker 6: bit when analyzing defenses for this reason. I kind of
Speaker 6: believe it out of out of thirty two teams these days,
Speaker 6: twenty seven or twenty eight of them have receivers that
Speaker 6: are dangerous can beat you. It's how the league's played.
Speaker 6: And if you fall asleep against any team these days,
Speaker 6: they're gonna be able to beat you in the passing game.
Speaker 3: But the Dolphins can really beat you in the passing game.
Speaker 6: They're they're one of the top two or three teams now.
Speaker 6: Everybody knows their breakdown last year was really good against
Speaker 6: teams that didn't make the playoffs, struggled against not I
Speaker 6: was asked, Today's it's a bell Weather game. You know,
Speaker 6: it's hard to know. You don't know how season's going
Speaker 6: to play out, but you know the Dolphins are not unbeatable,
Speaker 6: but you better cover them and you better get to
Speaker 6: the quarterback. So it's tough. I mean, it's it's a
Speaker 6: schedule where if you're pretty good, I think Jags are
Speaker 6: pretty good. They'll manage it if you're starting out slow.
Speaker 3: Oops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a good a good place to be.
Speaker 1: That moves us on to the next portion of the schedule,
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars make the trip over to London in
Speaker 1: Week six for the road game at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium
Speaker 1: to face the Chicago Bears. The next week across town
Speaker 1: at Wimbley Stadium for the home game against the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots. Let's just start with the London games back
Speaker 1: to back years now two straight games. They won the
Speaker 1: two games there last year against the Falcons and the Bills.
Speaker 1: This year, the game locations are reversed. It is games
Speaker 1: two and three of the three game London stretch for
Speaker 1: the NFL, so the second Spurs game and of course
Speaker 1: the Wimbley game. The Jaguars do not have to change
Speaker 1: accommodations this year. They get to stay all what ten
Speaker 1: eleven days, are going to be there in the same place,
Speaker 1: so that helps logistically. But here you go, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are playing most likely two rookie quarterbacks in London. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Look, on paper, there's nothing as formidable.
Speaker 3: In London as the Bills were last year.
Speaker 6: The Bills were in AFC East champion defending and looked
Speaker 6: like one of the best three or four teams in football.
Speaker 6: It was one of those. There were four or five
Speaker 6: games last year the measuring six. There's one up.
Speaker 3: Let's take the.
Speaker 6: Two specific teams, rookie quarterbacks all that. When you play
Speaker 6: in London the way the Jaguars do, no matter who
Speaker 6: you play. They're the only team in the NFL has
Speaker 6: ever done it back to back. They did it last year.
Speaker 6: So what twenty five guys and most of the coaching
Speaker 6: staff has done it.
Speaker 3: They know the rhythm of it.
Speaker 6: There's not many advantages in the NFL that should be
Speaker 6: an advantage no matter who you're playing. So the way
Speaker 6: the schedules set up, get to three and two, two
Speaker 6: and three, I think I think the first four tough,
Speaker 6: and me the first five are tough. People are gonna
Speaker 6: look at this two game stretch as one where you
Speaker 6: ought to get healthy. I think, no matter who they
Speaker 6: were playing, you look at it that way. But in
Speaker 6: this case, rookie quarterback four and thirteen team of the Patriots,
Speaker 6: they'll be favored to win that game. The Bears Kayler
Speaker 6: Williams dand they'll be favored to win that game. So
Speaker 6: but guess what about that JP doesn't.
Speaker 1: Matter, you'll play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wills were favored to win that game last.
Speaker 1: Year, they did, they didn't. It didn't happen. So the
Speaker 1: Jaguars come back state side in week eight. The bye
Speaker 1: week's a little later again this year, but they're back
Speaker 1: home week eight right after London to host the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and that is a one o'clock kick, and
Speaker 1: then at the Eagles for Sunday Night Football at eight
Speaker 1: twenty pm in week nine. Then it's onto week ten,
Speaker 1: back home again, the Minnesota Vikings come to town. Then
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are at the Lions in week eleven, the
Speaker 1: bye week in week twelve, and just that four game
Speaker 1: stretch there alone, Packers, Eagles, Vikings, Lions has the possibility
Speaker 1: of being almost as difficult as the first five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and on paper, first thought is on paper the
Speaker 6: quote break game we the Vikings. He went seven to ten,
Speaker 6: But in the last ten years, that's the worst record
Speaker 6: the Vikings had. The Vikings to me are one of
Speaker 6: those teams that as soon as you sit there in
Speaker 6: August and think that they're eh, all of a sudden
Speaker 6: they're nine and six. They started off horribly last year
Speaker 6: and got hot late. They're not a team that's very
Speaker 6: bad for very long. So the Packers, the Packers feel.
Speaker 3: To me like a team.
Speaker 6: People are looking at the schedule right now and thinking, well,
Speaker 6: the Packers are okay, But you know, they look like
Speaker 6: a team the way they peaked at the end of
Speaker 6: last year that they could be a flexing time. I mean,
Speaker 6: they could challenge Detroit, and then you got Detroit. So
Speaker 6: a couple of things with this. You you saw the
Speaker 6: I think you saw the Eagles two years ago. Haven't
Speaker 6: seen any of these other teams since COVID on the field.
Speaker 6: I think I saw the Lions in pre season, But
Speaker 6: who knows how that's an advantage not having played not
Speaker 6: you know, you can't really say it's advantage for either team,
Speaker 6: but it's a factor in that it's it's high level
Speaker 6: preparation for all those four There's nothing really, there's nothing
Speaker 6: really to refer to going in so it's gonna be
Speaker 6: a long month.
Speaker 1: Last time I seen the Lions was the playoff your
Speaker 1: two years ago, and they blasted the Jags in the
Speaker 1: December up there, and then the run started after that.
Speaker 1: But even then that's two years ago, so.
Speaker 6: That was the fourth and a fourth place team against
Speaker 6: each other.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 6: The Eagles that year were in the East. This is
Speaker 6: more of a they're playing the Eagles. Could both teams
Speaker 6: were second last.
Speaker 1: Year, that's right.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it changes so much year to year that
Speaker 6: if you played a team two years ago, there's not
Speaker 6: that much to draw from. But right, you know, I
Speaker 6: don't think the Eagles think they're gonna stink, and.
Speaker 1: I the PAS defense certainly is not going to ste.
Speaker 6: The Packers feel like they're really good. So again, this
Speaker 6: could be all NFL schedules are hard. They are when
Speaker 6: you look at them. If if the Jaguars are good,
Speaker 6: they'll navigate this schedule. If they're struggling in any way,
Speaker 6: it'll bring out the worst in them.
Speaker 1: And that's with pretty much any schedule in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: the schedule released last night after the bye week home
Speaker 1: against the Texans Week thirteen at the Titans, Week fourteen,
Speaker 1: then Week fifteen at home against the Jets. Week sixteen,
Speaker 1: the week before Christmas, weekend before Christmas in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. Week seventeen home against the Titans, Week
Speaker 1: eighteen at the Colts for a date and time to
Speaker 1: be determined Saturday or Sunday in Week eighteen. That always
Speaker 1: that flexible time depending on playoff implications. But four of
Speaker 1: the last six games of the season are in the division,
Speaker 1: All six are in the AFC, and they are alternating
Speaker 1: homean road, which is the case throughout the season. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars do not have back to back weeks of games
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville this year, and this is the stretch run.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's.
Speaker 6: If you navigate the first we eleven and are within
Speaker 6: a couple of games of the division, and if you're
Speaker 6: a team that peaks late, you're in good shape.
Speaker 3: You know, you can really every ready back in.
Speaker 6: It shapes up much like two years ago did when
Speaker 6: they were three or four games down and got hot
Speaker 6: and were able to play the Titans. Twice they were
Speaker 6: what down four to the Titans. Titans hit a rough
Speaker 6: patch eggo excepting twice all of a sudden they were tied.
Speaker 6: You know, they were down four in like week eleven
Speaker 6: and tied in seventeen, So you can make it up
Speaker 6: quick if you wind up being better than your opponents
Speaker 6: at that time of year. On the concern I've said
Speaker 6: many many times this is they're older guys on this team.
Speaker 6: Will they stay healthy and peak late? That's going to
Speaker 6: be a challenge. I'm not saying it can't be done,
Speaker 6: but to me, it's a storyline to watch injuries on
Speaker 6: this team with older players. How much they peak late
Speaker 6: in the season. That is not a given with the
Speaker 6: makeup of the roster, but it's very possible to do it.
Speaker 1: We'll find out. And I know Doug Peterson likes that
Speaker 1: later bye week, and they got it in week twelve
Speaker 1: to maybe kind of regroup for a run length that.
Speaker 1: But your point's good, John, I mean, they had some
Speaker 1: veteran guys anyway, they added some more in free agency,
Speaker 1: and it's a long season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and all of this, yeah, bear in mind they
Speaker 6: always is very specutlive one of the great truths. And
Speaker 6: I wrote it again this for tomorrow's ozone. This is
Speaker 6: going to be a topic for the next three or
Speaker 6: four months, and it should be. It's the schedule. There
Speaker 6: will be charts. I'm sure there already are strength of schedule.
Speaker 6: I think I may say that Yiverys had the sixteenth
Speaker 6: toughest schedule. Well okay, based on last year. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: in the NFL these days especially, you really don't know
Speaker 6: who's great and who's not until about week five or six.
Speaker 6: By November of last year, remember that tight I mean
Speaker 6: that Texans game was Battle Royale like it it was
Speaker 6: everything nobody thought on September first, the Texans Jaguars in
Speaker 6: Houston was gonna be one of the biggest games of
Speaker 6: the year.
Speaker 3: So Barret keep that in mind. The Jets.
Speaker 6: If Rogers is on the field all year, maybe that
Speaker 6: Jets game has circle the wagon. I mean, if he's
Speaker 6: forty years old limping through the season, that Jets game
Speaker 6: could be like it was two years ago. So the
Speaker 6: dynamics of this changed so much on paper, it's very
Speaker 6: very difficult.
Speaker 1: We'll see, will see, and the schedule is finally here,
Speaker 1: of course, and you don't want to miss these matchups.
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Speaker 1: lifted some Microsoft questions from your ozone. We'll get to
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember the last time.
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's been a little bit.
Speaker 6: There's been a few, and you know, if, if not
Speaker 6: even if when the stadium gets approved of interesting to
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus will break down the draft picks in
Speaker 1: about ten to fifteen minutes or so. We talked a
Speaker 1: little bit earlier today. Time now for the social Questions
Speaker 1: presented by Microsoft. We put the cat signal out on
Speaker 1: Twitter for x today. We didn't get any responses.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the heck's scorer is watching the PGA.
Speaker 1: The PGA champ Chips on a Thursday. Tiger played this morning.
Speaker 1: It might be one over. It's not great leaders at nine,
Speaker 1: so he better make a little run tomorrow. And it's
Speaker 1: not ideal to make it to the weekend. Here are
Speaker 1: some questions that we lifted off the ozone make Back
Speaker 1: so we're just a straight thievery of this. This is
Speaker 1: Michael from Orange Park. I'll be honest to your zone.
Speaker 1: The NFL clearly has it out for the Jaguars and
Speaker 1: always has. The schedule is brutal. I just don't see
Speaker 1: us getting to five hundred.
Speaker 6: Well, look, the schedule makers are never out to get anybody.
Speaker 6: You have thirty two teams, thirty two fan bases who
Speaker 6: are convinced, just like in the in the fall, they're
Speaker 6: convinced the officiating is out to get them.
Speaker 3: In this on in May.
Speaker 6: They're convinced the officials, I mean, the schedule makers are
Speaker 6: out to get them. They have thirty two teams trying
Speaker 6: to get seventeen games in place, somewhat actively, somewhat fairly.
Speaker 6: The games themselves for people. I think most people probably
Speaker 6: know this, but the opponents are set by a formula
Speaker 6: that can't be.
Speaker 3: Maneuvered.
Speaker 6: The sites are also set that way. So when we
Speaker 6: talk about a tough schedule, they were gonna play those
Speaker 6: first five teams somewhere along the lines. It's just when analyzing,
Speaker 6: you say, well, the first part of the season's tough.
Speaker 6: Those five games were gonna be tough Somewhere along the lines.
Speaker 6: So the league's not out to get them. They didn't.
Speaker 6: They didn't give them a Thanksgiving game. They weren't out
Speaker 6: to get them on that. I think the Thanksgiving thing,
Speaker 6: which I got a lot of emails about today, Look,
Speaker 6: the Jaguars fans and observers thought, well, they're gonna put
Speaker 6: them on Thanksgiving because they've never been there. I think
Speaker 6: that was the storyline for Jaguars fans and observers. I
Speaker 6: don't know that the schedule makers were sitting in New
Speaker 6: York saying, well, we've got to get at the Jags
Speaker 6: on Yeah. No, they played four their national TV games
Speaker 6: this year, or nine and eight last year. That's a
Speaker 6: that's a nine to eight team in a small market.
Speaker 6: That's a reasonable number, if you look at it objectively,
Speaker 6: a reasonable number of national television slots.
Speaker 3: Maybe one more.
Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying, I don't think they
Speaker 6: were trying to keep them off Thanksgiving. They weren't out
Speaker 6: to get them.
Speaker 1: And this is a safe play on Thanksgiving. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the Bears and the Lions. Just the
Speaker 1: most played Thanksgiving game.
Speaker 3: There is justin field. It is no, no, no, it's
Speaker 3: the new kid I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, that's that makes sense to.
Speaker 3: Me, right, So yeah, it yeah, it's it's I.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't worry about the They're not out to get a team.
Speaker 6: What's the line about paranoia? It's ah, just because you're paranoid,
Speaker 6: didn't mean they had to get or something like that.
Speaker 1: If you want a tough schedule, look at the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: Six of their last eight games are division games.
Speaker 3: Now, the other two tough to right.
Speaker 1: The other two are the Eagles and the Chiefs. Right,
Speaker 1: that's the last eight games of their season.
Speaker 6: And again, there is a human element of this. Somebody
Speaker 6: has to pick it once it's done. But they're randomly
Speaker 6: pushing this through a computer with caveats of this team
Speaker 6: wants to not play on these two weekends because of
Speaker 6: say Florida, Georgia, because of whatever's going on in their city.
Speaker 6: So they've got to force a lot of things into
Speaker 6: this and try to make it as equitable and fair
Speaker 6: as possible, trying to please thirty two teams, and we
Speaker 6: all know that's not possible.
Speaker 1: And not to mention the Steelers play on that Saturday
Speaker 1: before Christmas and Christmas Day as well.
Speaker 3: That better than than us absolutely.
Speaker 1: Anita from Springfield. With a relationship between head coach Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson and Chiefs head coach Andy Reid, do you see
Speaker 1: us holding joint practices with the Chiefs and do you
Speaker 1: feel those are truly beneficial and would working with a
Speaker 1: championship team be different than others?
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's possible. They're the first week.
Speaker 6: I think, generally speaking, the only exceptions to it. You're
Speaker 6: speaking and coaches prefer to get that duel on that
Speaker 6: second week just because you they like some time early
Speaker 6: to work on themselves, get things going. Late, they sort
Speaker 6: of like to wind it down a little bit. And
Speaker 6: that's obviously there's many exceptions to that, but that's the
Speaker 6: general gist.
Speaker 3: It makes sense.
Speaker 6: Andy and Dougs certainly, I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 6: practiced against each other. Is it different against the Chiefs?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Mahomes is there, Yes, So.
Speaker 6: That makes it tougher, makes it a better test than
Speaker 6: anybody else because of Patrick Mahomes working against the championship team.
Speaker 3: It doesn't hurt.
Speaker 6: You know, the Jaguars went to the AFC Championship game
Speaker 6: the year that they worked against the Patriots. I'd probably
Speaker 6: be stretching it to say that that was why.
Speaker 1: Right, But I think you get a better look at
Speaker 1: how a championship organization goes about their business on a
Speaker 1: day to day basis. And I think for that team
Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen, they certainly kind of needed that.
Speaker 1: You know, you had no doubt a younger team, you had,
Speaker 1: you know, all that going on. Right.
Speaker 3: So now my guess too with Andy and Doug.
Speaker 6: Realistically, if the Jaguars, if the Chiefs are walking around
Speaker 6: here for a week, they're probably not going to see
Speaker 6: things done a whole lot differently on the other side
Speaker 6: because Doug, and you know, Doug does a lot of
Speaker 6: things I'm sure the same way.
Speaker 1: Dougs won his own Super Bowl, right, you know, so
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 6: But and the answer to the question how much does
Speaker 6: it help doesn't hurt? I think you can probably you know,
Speaker 6: you want to make sure you have X number of
Speaker 6: your own practices because there's stuff they're trying to get done,
Speaker 6: stuff they're trying to install. There's so little time to
Speaker 6: work in pads where you can work on yourself that
Speaker 6: that's why they don't do all of them that way.
Speaker 3: But having two which is what.
Speaker 6: One week equates to two padded practicingst another team.
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 6: Last year against Detroit, for example, I think one of
Speaker 6: them was very spirited, the other one was.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: Two's probably enough if it was. If it was four,
Speaker 6: that's fine.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the second preseason week that the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: might be the dual practice. We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3: That's what you sort of hear, makes sense, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 1: Now the trick would be too if they go to
Speaker 1: eighteen regular season games and two preseason games, would they
Speaker 1: add another? Could you in theory, hey, let's just do
Speaker 1: more practices against other teams in lieu of a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6: My guess is coaches would probably try to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because.
Speaker 6: I hate covering preseason games. But I think I think
Speaker 6: most football people, evaluators would like it's to at least
Speaker 6: stay at three. But I don't think it's going.
Speaker 1: To yeah, because I mean, it is real football. At
Speaker 1: some point, you gotta go play against another team with live,
Speaker 1: live action.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so at some point it is or you don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, depending on what the rule is. We'll
Speaker 1: see what they come up with.
Speaker 3: Money will dictate that.
Speaker 1: Certainly will final question of the day for John Ozier.
Speaker 1: Jason from Jacksonville. Do you think it might take some
Speaker 1: time for the offense to click this year? While a
Speaker 1: lot of players are entering year three in the system,
Speaker 1: two of the top three wideouts are new. Gave Davis
Speaker 1: will be out for a chunk of the off season.
Speaker 1: Do you expect it to take a few months for
Speaker 1: Davis and the rookie to get chemistry with Lawrence?
Speaker 3: It would it take a few months? Yeah, yeah, that's twelve.
Speaker 1: He was talking about the schedule.
Speaker 6: And uh yeah, realistically they should be better week eight
Speaker 6: together than they are week one because they're going to
Speaker 6: have a time on task, game action. I think it
Speaker 6: will be imperative on Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram to
Speaker 6: be the go to.
Speaker 3: Guys, the bailout guys.
Speaker 6: I think as long as those two are healthy, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it'll take some time to get on same page as Davis,
Speaker 6: but he's also a big play deep guy. If you
Speaker 6: have Christian, Evan and ETN there is sort of your bailouts,
Speaker 6: your super trust guy. I think it's gonna take some
Speaker 6: time for Brian Thomas to be that, but I don't
Speaker 6: think that's what he's being brought in for. Bucky's on
Speaker 6: our Huddle of podcast, talked about it a lot. The
Speaker 6: belief is that Christian and Evan are your best receivers
Speaker 6: and they are the engine of your offense.
Speaker 1: You saw when Christian was out last year.
Speaker 6: Right, So those are the chemistry is a huge deal
Speaker 6: on third and eight, when you're calling a play and
Speaker 6: you're under a blitz and you've got to know exactly
Speaker 6: where a guy is and he's your bailout, that's really important.
Speaker 6: Is chemistry quite as important for the deep guy who's
Speaker 6: trying to stretch the field. It's important, But I think
Speaker 6: as long as you have it with the other guys,
Speaker 6: I think he'll be okay on this front.
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten that Gabe Davis scored a touchdown against the
Speaker 1: Jags last year in London on the in front of Campbell.
Speaker 1: Was a pass interference call and it got called back
Speaker 1: offensive pass interference. They threw it again. It was api
Speaker 1: left side.
Speaker 3: Where I was watching, left side, your close corner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason Campbell got a p I on the play
Speaker 1: and yeah yeah got it back within one score. Uh.
Speaker 6: Gabe Davis to me is a guy. Look I know
Speaker 6: questions about chemistry. Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas to me
Speaker 6: are guys who sometimes even with Ridley a little bit
Speaker 6: last year, I thought this was the case. It can
Speaker 6: affect the game without always getting the ball. And Gabe Davis,
Speaker 6: you have to respect him if you're if you're playing defense,
Speaker 6: you have to account for that or he's going to
Speaker 6: beat you. Probably the same thing with Brian Thomas. Uh
Speaker 6: with a fifth receiver on the roster, maybe the defense
Speaker 6: doesn't have to account for it as much and they're
Speaker 6: not going to get you beat. The stat will be
Speaker 6: the same one catch for eight yards, but the impact
Speaker 6: on the game because he's Gabe Davis and they know
Speaker 6: about him, because he's Brian Thomas and they know about him,
Speaker 6: I think will be much more so just a thought.
Speaker 1: John Oser, Jaguars dot Com senior writer. Great to see you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in today.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that that's all yesterday. It's great to see you again.
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I appreciate it, JP, John Oser with us.
Speaker 1: We'll return with Max Chadwick of Pro Football Focus going
Speaker 1: through the Jaguars draft class. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought
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Speaker 1: Bason Smith, defensive tackle out of LSU, rookie second round
Speaker 1: draft pick forty eighth overall. Welcome back a Jaguars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: in his future. Coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 2: J P.
Speaker 1: Shadrick with you on the Jaguars Happy Hour on tittonexlam,
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube or thanks to John ojerj
Speaker 1: wanting us in the first half hour tonight going through
Speaker 1: the schedule and some Microsoft questions this evening. Jaguars in
Speaker 1: the city of Jacksonville presented the stadium agreement to the
Speaker 1: city council Tuesday, afternoon. More on the deal available at
Speaker 1: Jacksonville dot gov. There's also a series of community huddles
Speaker 1: around town coming up for citizens to go show support
Speaker 1: or ask questions of the leaders involved. There was one
Speaker 1: last night don at Mandarin very well attended, I was told,
Speaker 1: and there's another one tonight at Legend Center on Sotel
Speaker 1: Road on the North Side. May twentieth, Fletcher High School
Speaker 1: in Neptune Beach, May twenty ninth, Sandalwood High School. May thirtieth,
Speaker 1: west Side High School on Firestone Road. No RSVPs are required,
Speaker 1: and all of the huddles are from six thirty to
Speaker 1: eight pm, including tonight. Also, the Jaguars had a few
Speaker 1: signings this afternoon. A couple of veteran defensive backs, Terrell
Speaker 1: Edmunds and Trey Flowers, have been signed. Edmunds has spent
Speaker 1: a number of years in the NFL at five seasons,
Speaker 1: actually seven seasons in the NFL, and Edmunds sixty one
Speaker 1: two and fifteen pounds out of Virginia Tech, a first
Speaker 1: round pick of the Steelers back in twenty eighteen, the
Speaker 1: twenty eighth overall selection that year, and spent five years
Speaker 1: with the Black and Gold and had five interceptions with
Speaker 1: the Steelers in his time there. Last year, time with
Speaker 1: the Titans and the Eagles. So a safety by trade
Speaker 1: and now part of this Jaguars defensive backfield, at least
Speaker 1: on the depth chart. We'll see what happens next week
Speaker 1: is actually the start of organized team activities and they'll
Speaker 1: be their debut with the Jaguars and the practice field trade.
Speaker 1: Flowers a fifth round pick of the Seahawks back in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen same draft, and the Flowers with a few
Speaker 1: seasons in Seattle eighteen nineteen and twenty Seattle and Cincinnati
Speaker 1: in twenty one, Cincinnati in twenty two, the Falcons last season,
Speaker 1: so Flowers winning the Jaguars as well. And linebacker Ty
Speaker 1: Summers also signed today, and the name is slightly familiar.
Speaker 1: He played with the Jaguars for three games in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, was part of the squad that year and
Speaker 1: then was jumped up a few times to get a
Speaker 1: little action. But started his career in twenty nineteen in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Three seasons of the Packers and of course
Speaker 1: that little time with the Jaguars, the end of the
Speaker 1: season with New Orleans, and then last season all year
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. As well, mainly special teams contributor to
Speaker 1: squad type, so up and down, we'll see what he
Speaker 1: has to offer.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Those are the signings this afternoon for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Speaker 1: and they joined the rookie classes out on the field
Speaker 1: at least in Phase two with the veterans, and that
Speaker 1: Phase two end of today of the offseason program, they'll
Speaker 1: be with them, of course, starting Monday, Phase three, the
Speaker 1: organized team activities portion of the offseason starts, and we
Speaker 1: break down this rookie class with Max Chadwick of Pro
Speaker 1: Football Focus College Football Analysts. He's the co host of
Speaker 1: the PFF College Football Show as well, and I asked
Speaker 1: him earlier today what stood out the most about Jaguars
Speaker 1: first round pick wide receiver Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's one of the best vertical threats
Speaker 4: in this class. Honestly, he had the highest deep receiving
Speaker 4: grade in the country this year, ninety nine point nine grade.
Speaker 4: Hard to get too much better than that on a
Speaker 4: scale of one to one hundred. Obviously, he had twelve
Speaker 4: touchdowns on deep rows as well twenty plus yards throws
Speaker 4: that also led the country get the most catches on
Speaker 4: deep Rosi Tho was receiving yards deep rows. He is
Speaker 4: a vertical threat, and I think that's exactly what the
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars needed on offense was to get a vertical
Speaker 4: threat on offense with Trevor Lawrence there, who for better
Speaker 4: or for worse, loves to attack down the field, So
Speaker 4: they need a receiver that can stretch the field vertically
Speaker 4: and I think Brian Thomas Junior can do exactly that.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of what.
Speaker 4: They were missing in that offense in my opinion, And
Speaker 4: that's exactly the kind of player at Brian Thomas Junior is,
Speaker 4: So I'm really excited to see the fit with him
Speaker 4: and Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: I think those two are going to work really well together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously Thomas last year and bad and ruers
Speaker 1: put up the most touchdowns in all of FBS and
Speaker 1: in an offense that has some weapons. Over the years,
Speaker 1: they've produced some wide receivers out of that place, and
Speaker 1: if you have that vertical speed, then the rest of
Speaker 1: it can come at some point. I think that's the
Speaker 1: idea for the Jaguars coaching staff, is to maybe develop
Speaker 1: some more things in his game as that goes along.
Speaker 1: But when you start with the speed in this marts,
Speaker 1: that's a good start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good start, honestly. And only the
Speaker 4: size too. He's a bigger receiver as well, got great speed,
Speaker 4: run like a four to three in the in the
Speaker 4: forty yard dash, and yeah, like I said, I mean
Speaker 4: he was in that offense with Jayden Daniels who was
Speaker 4: also a great running threat, so it wasn't like Jaye
Speaker 4: Nails is passing every time. And also the best receiver
Speaker 4: in college football this past year in Malik Neighbors, and
Speaker 4: yet Brian Thomas Junior still had the most receiving touchdowns
Speaker 4: as well. So even though he was the number two
Speaker 4: receiver on an LSU team, he still was extremely productive
Speaker 4: and still was one of the most productive receivers in
Speaker 4: college football even as the number two receiver. So that's
Speaker 4: why he ended up being a first round pick as well.
Speaker 4: So he's got great size, great speed, and an excellent
Speaker 4: production this past season as well.
Speaker 2: I really do. I'm a big fan of that pick
Speaker 2: for Jacksonville at number twenty three.
Speaker 1: Overall, that tells you how difficult the final year of
Speaker 1: the SEC West was as well. If they're losing a
Speaker 1: handful of games with that kind of offense. That's right
Speaker 1: week to week in the SEC. Good luck staying in
Speaker 1: Baton rugs. The Jaguars in the second round. Go to
Speaker 1: the defensive line and get tackle Mason Smith. All right,
Speaker 1: what stands out about him besides his impressive size and
Speaker 1: you know he's a guy that can jump in that road,
Speaker 1: I think right away, yeah, he is.
Speaker 4: Listen, Trent Balkey has a type, right, and it's why
Speaker 4: you saw Trayvon Walker go number one overall when a
Speaker 4: lot of people, including myself, thought Aiden Hutchinson probably should
Speaker 4: have been the number one overall pick. He clearly values
Speaker 4: the potential of a player more than what he is
Speaker 4: right now. And I think that's exactly the way to
Speaker 4: describe Mason Smith, who is a like you said, size
Speaker 4: speed freak.
Speaker 2: He has it. He got hurt last.
Speaker 4: Year, so we missed basically all the season besides like
Speaker 4: a few snaps, he got hurt in the season opener.
Speaker 4: This past season, he was solid, but I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: he was a top fifty caliber player. Like for me,
Speaker 4: I probably would have spent more of maybe a Day
Speaker 4: three pick on him, like a fourth round pick. So
Speaker 4: getting him in the second round I think is a
Speaker 4: little bit of a reach, but obviously Trent Balky is
Speaker 4: a type. Like I said with Treyvon Walker there, they
Speaker 4: obviously value athleticis me saw Brian Thomas Junior be the
Speaker 4: first round pick who is kind of a lot of
Speaker 4: potential as well. Bason Smith has a lot of projection,
Speaker 4: but he obviously has a high ceiling with how good
Speaker 4: his traits are. It's just that we haven't seen the
Speaker 4: perduction to match those traits just yet for a number
Speaker 4: of reasons, you know, with the injuries and just he
Speaker 4: hasn't really developed too much LSU either. So he's definitely
Speaker 4: a developmental project for Jacksonville, and I don't love taking
Speaker 4: a project like that at number forty eight overall, but
Speaker 4: there's no denying he has a high ceiling and I
Speaker 4: think he could be a big time contributor for Jacksonville
Speaker 4: if he develops like hopefully Trayvon Walker.
Speaker 1: Will two And they've got, you know, some some veteran
Speaker 1: players on the interior that they are expecting to play
Speaker 1: a lot of time there. Obviously, Eric Armstead brought in
Speaker 1: and free agency this offseason. Roy Robertson Harris a guy
Speaker 1: who has been around now for a few years in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: so that could give him a little bit of time
Speaker 1: to develop. Moving on to round number three, Max Chadwick
Speaker 1: with us from Pro Football Focus Jarion Jones, the cornerback
Speaker 1: from Florida State. And you know, this is a defense
Speaker 1: that has a new coordinator and they've got some changes
Speaker 1: in the secondary. A couple of veteran players are out,
Speaker 1: you know, so they've had to make some changes here.
Speaker 1: They did it in free agency, they brought in a
Speaker 1: couple of veteran players. But then they go to the
Speaker 1: draft and tell us about Jones, what where can he play?
Speaker 1: Right away?
Speaker 2: I think he's more of a slot defender.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think he's got the long speech for
Speaker 4: truly being outside corner, but he's got the quickness to
Speaker 4: excel in the slot. And he's also a really really
Speaker 4: good tackler, really good run defender as well, which again
Speaker 4: translates more to being a slot corner than an outside corner.
Speaker 4: He had a ninety point one grade this past year,
Speaker 4: is fifth best among all corners in the country, only
Speaker 4: zero touchdowns allowed to on four undred and fifty eight
Speaker 4: covered snaps since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: So I like Darian Jones a lot.
Speaker 4: I thought Florida State's defense was extremely underrated last year,
Speaker 4: especially their secondary. I thought they one of the best
Speaker 4: secondaries in the country between Ronardo Green and Jarian Jones
Speaker 4: and Central Ciphers who's going back to school as well.
Speaker 4: I really like Jarian Jones a lot, but I think
Speaker 4: he's I wouldn't expect him to be an outside corner
Speaker 4: for Jacksonville. I think he's probably more of a nickel
Speaker 4: corner in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And then moving on to the fourth round, Jaguars had
Speaker 1: a couple of picks in the fourth Javon Foster tackle
Speaker 1: out of Missouri, Jordan Jefferson defensive tackle out of LSU,
Speaker 1: more of a nose tackle type. But let's start with Foster.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars at the tackle position have Cam Robinson, who's
Speaker 1: going into a contract year, who is on a big
Speaker 1: money contract, Walker Little, who is the swing tackle who
Speaker 1: is the second round pick a few years ago and
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to crack the lineup consistently, and then
Speaker 1: Anton Harrison, of course a first round draft pick last year.
Speaker 1: So where does Foster fit into the equation and what
Speaker 1: can he bring when he's out there.
Speaker 4: I think Javon Foster is more likely a swing tackle
Speaker 4: right now. I don't expect him to be in the
Speaker 4: starting lineup right now. I will say, though, I thought
Speaker 4: this guy was one of the most underrated prospects in
Speaker 4: the NFL draft, and I'm a big fan of Jacksonville
Speaker 4: Jaguar selecting him in the fourth round. Like you said,
Speaker 4: it is a kind of a crowded tackle room that
Speaker 4: they have right now. But there's not denying Javon Foster
Speaker 4: in the SEC over the last three years has been
Speaker 4: extremely productive as Missouri's starting left tackle. In fact, get
Speaker 4: eighty grades in every single year of the last three
Speaker 4: seasons when he's been a starter, so he has really
Speaker 4: really been an impressive player. You know, there's eleven Power
Speaker 4: five tackles since twenty twenty one that's had eighty plus
Speaker 4: greeds both as a passbuocker and as a run blocker.
Speaker 4: Javon Foster is one of them, and the other here's
Speaker 4: seven other of them. Javon Foster, Joe Alt, Talisa Flogo,
Speaker 4: Charles Cross, Peters, Keronski, Evan Neil Dewan Jones.
Speaker 2: I mean, those are all starting.
Speaker 4: NFL offensive lineman right now and a lot of them
Speaker 4: were first round picks as well. So Javon Foster's not
Speaker 4: an elite athlete, doesn't have great ben doesn't have great flexibility.
Speaker 4: But I do think he's been a really productive player.
Speaker 4: And I think down the line, if you're telling me
Speaker 4: this guy's a starting tackle down the line in the NFL,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be too shocked, honestly. So I was a
Speaker 4: huge fan of Javon Foster coming out. I even probably
Speaker 4: would have taken him, maybe even the third round of
Speaker 4: the draft. So Jackson getting him in the fourth round
Speaker 4: that was a really good steal. And yeah, I'm a
Speaker 4: huge fan of his game, and we'll see how he
Speaker 4: could do in the NFL. But if he's anything like
Speaker 4: he was in college, he could be a very very
Speaker 4: productive player.
Speaker 1: And consistently available as well. He was out there a lot,
Speaker 1: played a lot of consecutive games at Missouri. George Jefferson,
Speaker 1: big body, nose tackle, and I loved his interview. It
Speaker 1: was on the porch after the draft. He was on
Speaker 1: his front porch. He had like a shirtless shirt T
Speaker 1: shirt or sleepless T shirt on, wrap around sunglasses. He
Speaker 1: was just kind of like that, that gritty nose tackle
Speaker 1: type and you need those guys on your D line.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 4: And I think it's the first time I think I
Speaker 4: saw stats the first time ever that one school took
Speaker 4: three players from the same one team, excuse me, took
Speaker 4: three players from the same school at georg Jefferson was
Speaker 4: the third LS Tiger that Trent Balky and the Jacksonville
Speaker 4: dag were selected. Here a lot like Mason Smith in
Speaker 4: some ways where he's kind of still a raw player
Speaker 4: that needs to develop a little bit. But there's note
Speaker 4: denying he's got great tools. I mean he tested as
Speaker 4: a well above average athlete. He had thirty four bench
Speaker 4: press reps, which were in the ninety fourth percent tile
Speaker 4: for defensive tackles even with longer arms too.
Speaker 2: Usually when you have.
Speaker 4: A lot of bench press reps as a guy with
Speaker 4: shorter arms, because obviously it's easier to get it up
Speaker 4: we have shorter arms, when you have long arms like Jefferson,
Speaker 4: it's harder to put up that many reps. And yet
Speaker 4: he's that just shows how strong of a player he is.
Speaker 4: He's able to stack and shed blockers in the run
Speaker 4: game really well. He holds up really well against double teams,
Speaker 4: good burst off the ball, even though he's not covering
Speaker 4: a lot of ground. I think he's a solid athlete overall.
Speaker 4: Now the problem with him is he's just not much
Speaker 4: of a pass rusher right now. He has a sixty
Speaker 4: one grade in pass rushing over this past season.
Speaker 2: He's kind of still developing technically.
Speaker 4: But I think as a run defender, he's a very
Speaker 4: strong player, will hold up against double teams, cause stack
Speaker 4: and shed blockers. He's got a good burst as well.
Speaker 4: He's a good athlete, just gotta get some refinement I
Speaker 4: think in his game, especially as a pass rusher. For
Speaker 4: it could be a full time starter for a team.
Speaker 4: But if you're asking him just to be a guy
Speaker 4: who could eat up double teams and stack and shed
Speaker 4: in the run game on first and second down, that's
Speaker 4: something I think you could do pretty quickly. So that's
Speaker 4: probably what Jacksonville has in mind for him right now,
Speaker 4: and I think that's something he's he should be able
Speaker 4: to do pretty quickly in his rookie year.
Speaker 1: Max Chadwick, pro football focused analyst and the co host
Speaker 1: of the PFF College Football Show, joining us all Right,
Speaker 1: well group the last four draft picks in kind of
Speaker 1: the same window. Here Deandrey Prince from Ole Miss the
Speaker 1: corner back in the fifth round, Keeland Robinson, Texas running
Speaker 1: back and kick returner in the fifth round, Cam Little,
Speaker 1: the twenty year old kicker at Arkansas on the sixth round,
Speaker 1: and Miles Cole defensive end Texas Tech. Obviously, these a
Speaker 1: lot of times will be special teams contributors and maybe
Speaker 1: developed a lot of times fighting to make the roster
Speaker 1: in the later rounds, especially in the seventh round. Cam
Speaker 1: Little should be here as the kicker. Robinson might have
Speaker 1: a chance as a kick returner, but of those you
Speaker 1: know three position players will leave the kicker out of it.
Speaker 1: Who could make the most impact early? Who has the
Speaker 1: better chance to make this team?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Good question.
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of a cop out answer, considering
Speaker 4: he was the highest drafted of all of them. I
Speaker 4: think Theatre Prince is an interesting guy. I mean, he
Speaker 4: has seventy plus grades and all three years the starter
Speaker 4: at Ole Miss. He's really good in his own covers,
Speaker 4: really really good run defender as well. He ran a
Speaker 4: four to three eight forty yards. The problem with him
Speaker 4: and why he went a little bit lower in the draft.
Speaker 4: You know you hear all those stats, and like, well,
Speaker 4: how did this guy add up falling in the fifth round.
Speaker 4: He's only one hundred eighty four pounds at six feet tall,
Speaker 4: and he's a guy that really loves to play in
Speaker 4: press coverage. That's just not really something that could happen
Speaker 4: in the NFL if you're only one hundred eighty four pounds,
Speaker 4: like you could get bodied by bigger receivers in the NFL.
Speaker 2: At that size.
Speaker 4: So he's got to get stronger if he wants to
Speaker 4: become more of a press corner. But even at one
Speaker 4: hundred eighty four pounds, like I said, I mean, he
Speaker 4: was holding up one press coverage and he was a
Speaker 4: great run defender too. Usually those smaller corners like that,
Speaker 4: that's where you see them get get tossed around a
Speaker 4: little bit in the run game, and then in press coverage.
Speaker 4: DeAndre Prince plays bigger than what he's listed at honestly.
Speaker 4: So I think he could be a really good special
Speaker 4: team contributor for them, And I think he could be
Speaker 4: a guy that needs to add just some strength, but
Speaker 4: he could be a good press corner in the league.
Speaker 4: So I, like I said, special team is probably going
Speaker 4: to be a guy that's going to be used early
Speaker 4: on in his career, but if he adds some weight
Speaker 4: and add some strength, he could contribute more as a
Speaker 4: defensive player, maybe as a rotational defensive back for Jacksonville.
Speaker 4: Don't know if we'll ever be a full time starter
Speaker 4: for them, but I think as a rotational guy, he
Speaker 4: could be a guy in that rotation for sure. So
Speaker 4: I like Deatrick Prince a lot, and I think he's
Speaker 4: an interesting guy in that secondary. Again, I won't expect
Speaker 4: him to take too much of an impact on the
Speaker 4: defense immediately, but as a special teams player, I think
Speaker 4: he definitely there's definitely a role for him on that
Speaker 4: special teams because of his mentality. Honestly, I think his
Speaker 4: mentality in the run game is mentality and press coverage.
Speaker 4: That's something that could really translate well to special teams
Speaker 4: because really special teams is all about mentality a mostly,
Speaker 4: So you got to go out there and give it
Speaker 4: your all on every play, and I think Deadrick Prince
Speaker 4: will probably be able to do that for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Max Chadwick pro Football Focus analysts and the co host
Speaker 1: of the PFF College Football Show. The full conversation available
Speaker 1: at Jaguars Dot Com and the Jaguars YouTube channel. We'll
Speaker 1: return with a preview of organized team activities they start Monday,
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Speaker 5: Like I said, I could go for this off season,
Speaker 5: get stronger, get healthier, do the things I needed to
Speaker 5: do to get my body, you know, back to my
Speaker 5: old self. And just as a team, you know, just
Speaker 5: you know, have a reef as mindset and I hugy mindset,
Speaker 5: ready for another opportunity to you know, play in February.
Speaker 1: And James, that's Tyson Campbell, Jaguars fourth year cornerback, Welcome Back.
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Speaker 1: up with him in the building here at the middle
Speaker 1: of Electric Center, just down the hall from the Hundai Studios.
Speaker 1: I guess that was on Wednesday. What is today? Thursday?
Speaker 1: I guess it was tuesday. It was Tuesday. I talked
Speaker 1: to Tyson a big year obviously contract here for Tyson
Speaker 1: Campbell coming up, and he missed six games last season,
Speaker 1: had a hamstring shoe came back late in the year,
Speaker 1: just wasn't right the back half, and you know he's
Speaker 1: he's geared up and ready to go now going into
Speaker 1: this now fourth season in the National Football League. Of course,
Speaker 1: one interception last year, ended up with sixty tackles for
Speaker 1: the season, but only played in eleven games a year before.
Speaker 1: It was really his best year easily, seventeen games, three interceptions,
Speaker 1: forced fumble, and the guy was all over the field,
Speaker 1: making tackles and really improving as it went along. And
Speaker 1: hopefully that's the case moving ahead, new defense and maybe
Speaker 1: a new feel on the outside for him, and we'll
Speaker 1: see if that carries over. And the twenty twenty four
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Speaker 1: Our thanks to John Oser and PFF analyst Max Chadwick
Speaker 1: for joining us. It's time for keeping it real. Insert
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Speaker 1: out of here for the offseason program. That's about as
Speaker 1: real as it gets, by the way. But OTAs organized
Speaker 1: team activities start next week and Monday May twentieth is
Speaker 1: the first one open to media. The first of each
Speaker 1: week will be open to media, no fans allowed, So
Speaker 1: May twentieth, May twenty eighth, June third, we'll have eyes
Speaker 1: on what's going on out there, and then mandatory mini
Speaker 1: camp the week after that June ten, eleven, and twelve,
Speaker 1: And in years past, if there's enough participation in the
Speaker 1: voluntary portion, the veterans a lot of times get that
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp away. I believe was the case last year,
Speaker 1: and from all accounts from what we've heard from Doug Peterson,
Speaker 1: the attendance has been pretty good up to this point,
Speaker 1: so that's a good sign. And there are certain rules
Speaker 1: of course that are you know, extended a little bit
Speaker 1: more in this offseason program when Phase three rolls along
Speaker 1: in the OTA, so you can be in the building
Speaker 1: six hours a day, two hours max on the field.
Speaker 1: Helmets are allowed for the first time, no live contact,
Speaker 1: no one on ones but there is eleven on eleven
Speaker 1: offense versus defense and special teams drills that are allowed
Speaker 1: starting next week for the next four weeks, so we'll
Speaker 1: get a good idea maybe of or at least a
Speaker 1: glimpse of what the thoughts are and what this kickoff
Speaker 1: rule looks like, because special teams drills will be allowed.
Speaker 1: And then eleven on eleven. As we said, no live contact,
Speaker 1: no tackling, none of that stuff, but you'll get to
Speaker 1: see some We'll at least get to see some guys
Speaker 1: move around, and it's the next step in this offseason program.
Speaker 1: And finally it's gets started next week and they're limited
Speaker 1: to a few for the first couple weeks, and then
Speaker 1: they can cram in four I think, and week three
Speaker 1: and then finally the three practices in that mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 1: So we're closing in on the dead zone. And it
Speaker 1: has come quickly, this offseason program flying along. It just
Speaker 1: feels like that Super Bowl so late this year. Then
Speaker 1: the combine came and then all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 1: free agency at mid March, and then oh gosh, here
Speaker 1: we go into the off season program begins in mid April,
Speaker 1: and then the draft hits, and now the draft's over
Speaker 1: and the rookies are here, and then we're just in
Speaker 1: about four weeks time they're all gone and then it's
Speaker 1: back for training camping in late July. So that's coming
Speaker 1: up next week and we're excited to see it, and
Speaker 1: we'll have all the coverage, of course, right here on
Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio and Jaguars dot com. Or thanks today of
Speaker 1: course to John Osier, senior writer Jaguars dot Com, Max
Speaker 1: Chadwick of Pro Football Focus for joining us. Full conversation
Speaker 1: with Max available at Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube.
Speaker 1: Or thanks to Max Hawkman and David Choe in our
Speaker 1: studio for making this one happen today. Brent Reeber as well,
Speaker 1: and congratulations to Brent. Five year anniversary with the Jaguars today,
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