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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May sixteenth.

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Speaker 2: This is check.

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Speaker 3: War's happy Hour.

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Speaker 4: And now a guy who wears memory Foemen sols just

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Speaker 4: so he can remember why he walked into the room.

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Speaker 1: Chadrack and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: this Thursday, May sixteenth. JP Shadwick with you. Busy hour

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Speaker 1: coming up. The schedule has been announced. Yes, it's out

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Speaker 1: there now, so we'll talk about it coming up. All

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Speaker 1: seventeen games over eighteen weeks. Phase two, the off season

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Speaker 1: program is winding down. In fact, it ended today. Players

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Speaker 1: off tomorrow and then Phase three begins on Monday. We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss some of that coming up. PFF analysts Max Chadwick

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Speaker 1: will break down the Jaguars draft class college football analyst

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Speaker 1: for Pro Football Focus. We'll keep it real as always,

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Speaker 1: and the Microsoft questions coming a little bit earlier today

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Speaker 1: because John Oser is in with us today and good afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Did Joe record that intro and leave it for when

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Speaker 6: he went on vacation.

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Speaker 1: You're not supposed to tell everybody how the sausage is made, John.

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Speaker 6: Well, because that's that's like when your mom would leave

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Speaker 6: and leave you some lasagnia in your own vacation.

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Speaker 1: So Joe's if we warmed it up in the microwave.

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Speaker 6: Joe's an Italian shit. Go Okay, that's great. That's great

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Speaker 6: for Jeff.

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Speaker 1: down there. I'll tell you what you know. The brew

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Speaker 1: house I haven't been to yet. It's at the outlet

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Speaker 1: exit in Saint Augustine, right just south of Highway sixteen

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Speaker 1: west of ninety five. There is a downtown tap room.

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Speaker 6: I haven't been to either of them, but I was

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Speaker 6: at a place, yeah, about seven or eight years ago.

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Speaker 3: Was at their old brewery. If you like craft beer,

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Speaker 3: they're really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And yeah, the one downtown, the little tap room

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Speaker 1: is right by the Cathedra, right by the old town,

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of all.

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Speaker 3: That stuff down there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been to that, which is cool.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 1: The Anastagia Island style ip A, we're gonna need like

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Speaker 1: a case from our new sponsor would be great.

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Speaker 3: It's all that's a good story.

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Speaker 1: We've got a long schedule of shows that it Monday. Right,

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Speaker 1: We're on ten to next lam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: YouTube JP Shadwick, that's John Osher, Jeff Logman out this week.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back with us next week. Lots to get to,

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Speaker 1: of course, the community huddles have begun with the stadium

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Speaker 1: negotiations going on. We'll get to the schedule of those

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Speaker 1: coming up in just a little bit. But the schedule

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Speaker 1: has been announced by the NFL. That was officially eight

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Speaker 1: o'clock last night, and we went through it on our

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Speaker 1: schedule release program on Jaguars YouTube. But if you weren't

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Speaker 1: able to join it, we can kind of recreate things

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Speaker 1: right here, John, you and I we'll go through.

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Speaker 3: Let's start the sausages, mate, That is exactly how it's made.

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Speaker 1: We'll start off with the early part of the schedule

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Speaker 1: and weeks one through five the Jaguars at the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Week one to start things off at one o'clock, Week

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Speaker 1: two home against the Browns, Week three Monday Night football

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what for starting stretches as far

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Speaker 1: It's got to be close to one of the most

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you knew that it was going to be a

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Speaker 6: on paper, tough schedule because of the way the AFC

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Speaker 6: South ended last year.

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Speaker 3: Meaning you know, two.

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Speaker 6: Years ago the Jaguars finished first and I'm not sure

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Speaker 6: add on. Ten of seventeen teams have winning records last year,

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Speaker 6: so five of them happened to be in that first

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Speaker 6: four or you know, JP. Sometimes I get criticized by fans, that's.

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Speaker 3: Why you hard for you to believe.

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Speaker 6: But some people wrote to me today, you know, I

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Speaker 6: read your analysis. So it's really negative, you know, really

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Speaker 6: negative about the schedule. It's not negative. I just think

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Speaker 6: doesn't mean you can't win them. It means that when

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Speaker 6: you're trying to analyze the schedule, that sticks out, and

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Speaker 6: You know, some of the ones later in the season.

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Speaker 6: It would take a little bit of some serious improvement

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Speaker 6: those five teams early in the season. You know me, JP,

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Speaker 6: You've had to read my analysis for ten years now.

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Speaker 6: Teams that think they're in it and believe are by

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Speaker 6: nature tough. Every one of these teams thinks they're good.

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Speaker 6: Going to Miami, they're fast.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're the fastest team in football.

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Speaker 6: You come back against almost I'm not saying the Browns

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Speaker 6: beat you up. The Bills have a quarterback that can

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Speaker 6: a red letter circle of game.

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Speaker 1: So it's we're gonna find out about this new defense

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Speaker 1: pretty quick. Well, I mean, especially against the Dolphins. How

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Speaker 6: You know, I've sort of shifted my belief a little

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Speaker 6: believe it out of out of thirty two teams these days,

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Speaker 6: twenty seven or twenty eight of them have receivers that

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Speaker 6: And if you fall asleep against any team these days,

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Speaker 6: they're gonna be able to beat you in the passing game.

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Speaker 3: But the Dolphins can really beat you in the passing game.

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Speaker 6: They're they're one of the top two or three teams now.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knows their breakdown last year was really good against

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Speaker 6: was asked, Today's it's a bell Weather game. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's hard to know. You don't know how season's going

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Speaker 3: Oops.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a good a good place to be.

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Speaker 1: That moves us on to the next portion of the schedule,

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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars make the trip over to London in

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Speaker 1: Week six for the road game at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium

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Speaker 1: to face the Chicago Bears. The next week across town

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Speaker 1: at Wimbley Stadium for the home game against the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. Let's just start with the London games back

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Speaker 1: to back years now two straight games. They won the

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Speaker 1: two games there last year against the Falcons and the Bills.

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Speaker 1: This year, the game locations are reversed. It is games

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Speaker 1: two and three of the three game London stretch for

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Speaker 1: the NFL, so the second Spurs game and of course

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Speaker 1: the Wimbley game. The Jaguars do not have to change

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Speaker 1: accommodations this year. They get to stay all what ten

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Speaker 1: so that helps logistically. But here you go, the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are playing most likely two rookie quarterbacks in London. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Look, on paper, there's nothing as formidable.

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Speaker 3: In London as the Bills were last year.

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Speaker 6: The Bills were in AFC East champion defending and looked

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Speaker 6: like one of the best three or four teams in football.

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Speaker 6: It was one of those. There were four or five

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Speaker 6: Two specific teams, rookie quarterbacks all that. When you play

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Speaker 6: in London the way the Jaguars do, no matter who

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Speaker 6: ever done it back to back. They did it last year.

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Speaker 6: So what twenty five guys and most of the coaching

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Speaker 3: They know the rhythm of it.

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Speaker 6: There's not many advantages in the NFL that should be

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Speaker 6: an advantage no matter who you're playing. So the way

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Speaker 6: the schedules set up, get to three and two, two

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Speaker 6: look at this two game stretch as one where you

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Speaker 6: ought to get healthy. I think, no matter who they

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Speaker 6: this case, rookie quarterback four and thirteen team of the Patriots,

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Speaker 6: they'll be favored to win that game. The Bears Kayler

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Speaker 6: but guess what about that JP doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Matter, you'll play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wills were favored to win that game last.

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Speaker 1: Year, they did, they didn't. It didn't happen. So the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars come back state side in week eight. The bye

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Speaker 1: home week eight right after London to host the Green

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Speaker 1: twenty pm in week nine. Then it's onto week ten,

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Speaker 1: back home again, the Minnesota Vikings come to town. Then

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are at the Lions in week eleven, the

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Speaker 1: bye week in week twelve, and just that four game

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Speaker 1: stretch there alone, Packers, Eagles, Vikings, Lions has the possibility

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Speaker 1: of being almost as difficult as the first five.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and on paper, first thought is on paper the

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Speaker 6: quote break game we the Vikings. He went seven to ten,

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Speaker 6: But in the last ten years, that's the worst record

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Speaker 6: those teams that as soon as you sit there in

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Speaker 3: To me like a team.

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Speaker 6: People are looking at the schedule right now and thinking, well,

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Speaker 6: the Packers are okay, But you know, they look like

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Speaker 6: they could challenge Detroit, and then you got Detroit. So

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Speaker 6: a couple of things with this. You you saw the

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Speaker 6: I think you saw the Eagles two years ago. Haven't

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Speaker 6: seen any of these other teams since COVID on the field.

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Speaker 6: I think I saw the Lions in pre season, But

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Speaker 6: who knows how that's an advantage not having played not

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Speaker 6: you know, you can't really say it's advantage for either team,

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Speaker 6: but it's a factor in that it's it's high level

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Speaker 6: preparation for all those four There's nothing really, there's nothing

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Speaker 6: a long month.

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Speaker 1: Last time I seen the Lions was the playoff your

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Speaker 3: It doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 6: You know, the Jaguars went to the AFC Championship game

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Speaker 6: the year that they worked against the Patriots. I'd probably

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Speaker 6: be stretching it to say that that was why.

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Speaker 1: Right, But I think you get a better look at

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Speaker 1: how a championship organization goes about their business on a

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Speaker 1: day to day basis. And I think for that team

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Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen, they certainly kind of needed that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you had no doubt a younger team, you had,

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Speaker 1: you know, all that going on. Right.

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Speaker 3: So now my guess too with Andy and Doug.

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Speaker 6: Realistically, if the Jaguars, if the Chiefs are walking around

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Speaker 6: here for a week, they're probably not going to see

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Speaker 6: things done a whole lot differently on the other side

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Speaker 6: because Doug, and you know, Doug does a lot of

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Speaker 6: things I'm sure the same way.

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Speaker 1: Dougs won his own Super Bowl, right, you know, so

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Speaker 1: to do it.

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Speaker 6: But and the answer to the question how much does

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Speaker 6: it help doesn't hurt? I think you can probably you know,

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Speaker 6: you want to make sure you have X number of

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Speaker 6: your own practices because there's stuff they're trying to get done,

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Speaker 6: stuff they're trying to install. There's so little time to

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Speaker 6: work in pads where you can work on yourself that

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Speaker 6: that's why they don't do all of them that way.

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Speaker 3: But having two which is what.

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Speaker 6: One week equates to two padded practicingst another team.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 6: Last year against Detroit, for example, I think one of

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Speaker 6: them was very spirited, the other one was.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 6: Two's probably enough if it was. If it was four,

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Speaker 6: that's fine.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like the second preseason week that the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: might be the dual practice. We'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 3: That's what you sort of hear, makes sense, so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Now the trick would be too if they go to

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Speaker 1: eighteen regular season games and two preseason games, would they

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Speaker 1: add another? Could you in theory, hey, let's just do

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Speaker 1: more practices against other teams in lieu of a game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 6: My guess is coaches would probably try to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because.

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Speaker 6: I hate covering preseason games. But I think I think

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Speaker 6: most football people, evaluators would like it's to at least

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Speaker 6: stay at three. But I don't think it's going.

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Speaker 1: To yeah, because I mean, it is real football. At

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Speaker 1: some point, you gotta go play against another team with live,

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Speaker 1: live action.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so at some point it is or you don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, depending on what the rule is. We'll

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Speaker 1: see what they come up with.

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Speaker 3: Money will dictate that.

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Speaker 1: Certainly will final question of the day for John Ozier.

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Speaker 1: Jason from Jacksonville. Do you think it might take some

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Speaker 1: time for the offense to click this year? While a

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Speaker 1: lot of players are entering year three in the system,

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Speaker 1: two of the top three wideouts are new. Gave Davis

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Speaker 1: will be out for a chunk of the off season.

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Speaker 1: Do you expect it to take a few months for

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Speaker 1: Davis and the rookie to get chemistry with Lawrence?

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Speaker 3: It would it take a few months? Yeah, yeah, that's twelve.

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Speaker 1: He was talking about the schedule.

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Speaker 6: And uh yeah, realistically they should be better week eight

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Speaker 6: together than they are week one because they're going to

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Speaker 6: have a time on task, game action. I think it

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Speaker 6: will be imperative on Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram to

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Speaker 6: be the go to.

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Speaker 3: Guys, the bailout guys.

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Speaker 6: I think as long as those two are healthy, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it'll take some time to get on same page as Davis,

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Speaker 6: but he's also a big play deep guy. If you

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Speaker 6: have Christian, Evan and ETN there is sort of your bailouts,

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Speaker 6: your super trust guy. I think it's gonna take some

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Speaker 6: time for Brian Thomas to be that, but I don't

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Speaker 6: think that's what he's being brought in for. Bucky's on

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Speaker 6: our Huddle of podcast, talked about it a lot. The

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Speaker 6: belief is that Christian and Evan are your best receivers

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Speaker 6: and they are the engine of your offense.

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Speaker 1: You saw when Christian was out last year.

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Speaker 6: Right, So those are the chemistry is a huge deal

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Speaker 6: on third and eight, when you're calling a play and

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Speaker 6: you're under a blitz and you've got to know exactly

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Speaker 6: where a guy is and he's your bailout, that's really important.

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Speaker 6: Is chemistry quite as important for the deep guy who's

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Speaker 6: trying to stretch the field. It's important, But I think

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Speaker 6: as long as you have it with the other guys,

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Speaker 6: I think he'll be okay on this front.

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Speaker 1: I'd forgotten that Gabe Davis scored a touchdown against the

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Speaker 1: Jags last year in London on the in front of Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Was a pass interference call and it got called back

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Speaker 1: offensive pass interference. They threw it again. It was api

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Speaker 1: left side.

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Speaker 3: Where I was watching, left side, your close corner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason Campbell got a p I on the play

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Speaker 1: and yeah yeah got it back within one score. Uh.

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Speaker 6: Gabe Davis to me is a guy. Look I know

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Speaker 6: questions about chemistry. Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas to me

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Speaker 6: are guys who sometimes even with Ridley a little bit

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Speaker 6: last year, I thought this was the case. It can

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Speaker 6: affect the game without always getting the ball. And Gabe Davis,

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Speaker 6: you have to respect him if you're if you're playing defense,

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Speaker 6: you have to account for that or he's going to

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Speaker 6: beat you. Probably the same thing with Brian Thomas. Uh

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Speaker 6: with a fifth receiver on the roster, maybe the defense

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Speaker 6: doesn't have to account for it as much and they're

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Speaker 6: not going to get you beat. The stat will be

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Speaker 6: the same one catch for eight yards, but the impact

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Speaker 6: on the game because he's Gabe Davis and they know

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Speaker 6: about him, because he's Brian Thomas and they know about him,

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Speaker 6: I think will be much more so just a thought.

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Speaker 1: John Oser, Jaguars dot Com senior writer. Great to see you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in today.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that that's all yesterday. It's great to see you again.

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I appreciate it, JP, John Oser with us.

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Speaker 1: We'll return with Max Chadwick of Pro Football Focus going

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Speaker 1: through the Jaguars draft class. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Ancient City Brewing, Taste History, Make History.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I'm definitely gonna be ready, man, And

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Speaker 7: just being able to contribute to the team, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, getting on the older guys and be as smile as.

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Speaker 7: To be able to soak everything that big onna brank

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Speaker 7: to the table for me and you know, just add

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Speaker 7: my own up to it, my own gent on it.

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Speaker 7: But you know, able to say say contructive criticism. Man,

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Speaker 7: is being able to forgree It's.

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Speaker 1: Bason Smith, defensive tackle out of LSU, rookie second round

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Speaker 1: draft pick forty eighth overall. Welcome back a Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Ancient City Brewing, Taste History, Make History,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what kind of history Mason Smith has

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Speaker 1: in his future. Coming up in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick with you on the Jaguars Happy Hour on tittonexlam,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube or thanks to John ojerj

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Speaker 1: wanting us in the first half hour tonight going through

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Speaker 1: the schedule and some Microsoft questions this evening. Jaguars in

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Speaker 1: the city of Jacksonville presented the stadium agreement to the

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Speaker 1: city council Tuesday, afternoon. More on the deal available at

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville dot gov. There's also a series of community huddles

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Speaker 1: around town coming up for citizens to go show support

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Speaker 1: or ask questions of the leaders involved. There was one

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Speaker 1: last night don at Mandarin very well attended, I was told,

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Speaker 1: and there's another one tonight at Legend Center on Sotel

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Speaker 1: Road on the North Side. May twentieth, Fletcher High School

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Speaker 1: in Neptune Beach, May twenty ninth, Sandalwood High School. May thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: west Side High School on Firestone Road. No RSVPs are required,

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Speaker 1: and all of the huddles are from six thirty to

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Speaker 1: eight pm, including tonight. Also, the Jaguars had a few

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Speaker 1: signings this afternoon. A couple of veteran defensive backs, Terrell

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Speaker 1: Edmunds and Trey Flowers, have been signed. Edmunds has spent

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Speaker 1: a number of years in the NFL at five seasons,

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Speaker 1: actually seven seasons in the NFL, and Edmunds sixty one

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Speaker 1: two and fifteen pounds out of Virginia Tech, a first

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Speaker 1: twenty eighth overall selection that year, and spent five years

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Speaker 1: with the Black and Gold and had five interceptions with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers in his time there. Last year, time with

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Speaker 1: the Titans and the Eagles. So a safety by trade

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Speaker 1: and now part of this Jaguars defensive backfield, at least

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Speaker 1: on the depth chart. We'll see what happens next week

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Speaker 1: is actually the start of organized team activities and they'll

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Speaker 1: be their debut with the Jaguars and the practice field trade.

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Speaker 1: Flowers a fifth round pick of the Seahawks back in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen same draft, and the Flowers with a few

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Speaker 1: seasons in Seattle eighteen nineteen and twenty Seattle and Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: in twenty one, Cincinnati in twenty two, the Falcons last season,

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Speaker 1: so Flowers winning the Jaguars as well. And linebacker Ty

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Speaker 1: Summers also signed today, and the name is slightly familiar.

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Speaker 1: He played with the Jaguars for three games in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, was part of the squad that year and

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Speaker 1: then was jumped up a few times to get a

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Speaker 1: little action. But started his career in twenty nineteen in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. Three seasons of the Packers and of course

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Speaker 1: that little time with the Jaguars, the end of the

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Speaker 1: season with New Orleans, and then last season all year

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. As well, mainly special teams contributor to

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Speaker 1: has to offer.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: Those are the signings this afternoon for the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: and they joined the rookie classes out on the field

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Speaker 1: at least in Phase two with the veterans, and that

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Speaker 1: Phase two end of today of the offseason program, they'll

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Speaker 1: be with them, of course, starting Monday, Phase three, the

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Speaker 1: organized team activities portion of the offseason starts, and we

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Speaker 1: break down this rookie class with Max Chadwick of Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus College Football Analysts. He's the co host of

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Speaker 1: the PFF College Football Show as well, and I asked

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Speaker 1: him earlier today what stood out the most about Jaguars

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Speaker 1: first round pick wide receiver Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's one of the best vertical threats

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Speaker 4: in this class. Honestly, he had the highest deep receiving

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Speaker 4: grade in the country this year, ninety nine point nine grade.

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Speaker 4: Hard to get too much better than that on a

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Speaker 4: scale of one to one hundred. Obviously, he had twelve

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Speaker 4: touchdowns on deep rows as well twenty plus yards throws

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Speaker 4: that also led the country get the most catches on

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Speaker 4: deep Rosi Tho was receiving yards deep rows. He is

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Speaker 4: a vertical threat, and I think that's exactly what the

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars needed on offense was to get a vertical

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Speaker 4: threat on offense with Trevor Lawrence there, who for better

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Speaker 4: or for worse, loves to attack down the field, So

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Speaker 4: they need a receiver that can stretch the field vertically

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Speaker 4: and I think Brian Thomas Junior can do exactly that.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of what.

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Speaker 4: They were missing in that offense in my opinion, And

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Speaker 4: that's exactly the kind of player at Brian Thomas Junior is,

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Speaker 4: So I'm really excited to see the fit with him

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Speaker 4: and Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: I think those two are going to work really well together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously Thomas last year and bad and ruers

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Speaker 1: put up the most touchdowns in all of FBS and

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Speaker 1: in an offense that has some weapons. Over the years,

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Speaker 1: they've produced some wide receivers out of that place, and

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Speaker 1: if you have that vertical speed, then the rest of

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Speaker 1: it can come at some point. I think that's the

656
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Speaker 1: idea for the Jaguars coaching staff, is to maybe develop

657
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Speaker 1: some more things in his game as that goes along.

658
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: But when you start with the speed in this marts,

659
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Speaker 1: that's a good start.

660
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good start, honestly. And only the

661
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 4: size too. He's a bigger receiver as well, got great speed,

662
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: run like a four to three in the in the

663
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Speaker 4: forty yard dash, and yeah, like I said, I mean

664
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Speaker 4: he was in that offense with Jayden Daniels who was

665
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: also a great running threat, so it wasn't like Jaye

666
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: Nails is passing every time. And also the best receiver

667
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: in college football this past year in Malik Neighbors, and

668
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: yet Brian Thomas Junior still had the most receiving touchdowns

669
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Speaker 4: as well. So even though he was the number two

670
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: receiver on an LSU team, he still was extremely productive

671
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: and still was one of the most productive receivers in

672
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Speaker 4: college football even as the number two receiver. So that's

673
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 4: why he ended up being a first round pick as well.

674
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Speaker 4: So he's got great size, great speed, and an excellent

675
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Speaker 4: production this past season as well.

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Speaker 2: I really do. I'm a big fan of that pick

677
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Speaker 2: for Jacksonville at number twenty three.

678
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Speaker 1: Overall, that tells you how difficult the final year of

679
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Speaker 1: the SEC West was as well. If they're losing a

680
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: handful of games with that kind of offense. That's right

681
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: week to week in the SEC. Good luck staying in

682
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: Baton rugs. The Jaguars in the second round. Go to

683
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Speaker 1: the defensive line and get tackle Mason Smith. All right,

684
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Speaker 1: what stands out about him besides his impressive size and

685
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Speaker 1: you know he's a guy that can jump in that road,

686
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Speaker 1: I think right away, yeah, he is.

687
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Speaker 4: Listen, Trent Balkey has a type, right, and it's why

688
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: you saw Trayvon Walker go number one overall when a

689
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: lot of people, including myself, thought Aiden Hutchinson probably should

690
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: have been the number one overall pick. He clearly values

691
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: the potential of a player more than what he is

692
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: right now. And I think that's exactly the way to

693
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 4: describe Mason Smith, who is a like you said, size

694
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Speaker 4: speed freak.

695
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: He has it. He got hurt last.

696
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: Year, so we missed basically all the season besides like

697
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 4: a few snaps, he got hurt in the season opener.

698
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: This past season, he was solid, but I wouldn't say

699
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: he was a top fifty caliber player. Like for me,

700
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Speaker 4: I probably would have spent more of maybe a Day

701
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: three pick on him, like a fourth round pick. So

702
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Speaker 4: getting him in the second round I think is a

703
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 4: little bit of a reach, but obviously Trent Balky is

704
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: a type. Like I said with Treyvon Walker there, they

705
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: obviously value athleticis me saw Brian Thomas Junior be the

706
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: first round pick who is kind of a lot of

707
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Speaker 4: potential as well. Bason Smith has a lot of projection,

708
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 4: but he obviously has a high ceiling with how good

709
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: his traits are. It's just that we haven't seen the

710
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: perduction to match those traits just yet for a number

711
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: of reasons, you know, with the injuries and just he

712
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 4: hasn't really developed too much LSU either. So he's definitely

713
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 4: a developmental project for Jacksonville, and I don't love taking

714
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: a project like that at number forty eight overall, but

715
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: there's no denying he has a high ceiling and I

716
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: think he could be a big time contributor for Jacksonville

717
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 4: if he develops like hopefully Trayvon Walker.

718
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Speaker 1: Will two And they've got, you know, some some veteran

719
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: players on the interior that they are expecting to play

720
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: a lot of time there. Obviously, Eric Armstead brought in

721
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: and free agency this offseason. Roy Robertson Harris a guy

722
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: who has been around now for a few years in Jacksonville,

723
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Speaker 1: so that could give him a little bit of time

724
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Speaker 1: to develop. Moving on to round number three, Max Chadwick

725
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Speaker 1: with us from Pro Football Focus Jarion Jones, the cornerback

726
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: from Florida State. And you know, this is a defense

727
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Speaker 1: that has a new coordinator and they've got some changes

728
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: in the secondary. A couple of veteran players are out,

729
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, so they've had to make some changes here.

730
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Speaker 1: They did it in free agency, they brought in a

731
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Speaker 1: couple of veteran players. But then they go to the

732
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Speaker 1: draft and tell us about Jones, what where can he play?

733
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Speaker 1: Right away?

734
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Speaker 2: I think he's more of a slot defender.

735
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Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think he's got the long speech for

736
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 4: truly being outside corner, but he's got the quickness to

737
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: excel in the slot. And he's also a really really

738
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: good tackler, really good run defender as well, which again

739
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: translates more to being a slot corner than an outside corner.

740
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: He had a ninety point one grade this past year,

741
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 4: is fifth best among all corners in the country, only

742
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: zero touchdowns allowed to on four undred and fifty eight

743
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Speaker 4: covered snaps since twenty twenty two.

744
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Speaker 2: So I like Darian Jones a lot.

745
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 4: I thought Florida State's defense was extremely underrated last year,

746
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: especially their secondary. I thought they one of the best

747
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: secondaries in the country between Ronardo Green and Jarian Jones

748
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: and Central Ciphers who's going back to school as well.

749
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Speaker 4: I really like Jarian Jones a lot, but I think

750
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: he's I wouldn't expect him to be an outside corner

751
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: for Jacksonville. I think he's probably more of a nickel

752
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: corner in the NFL.

753
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Speaker 1: And then moving on to the fourth round, Jaguars had

754
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Speaker 1: a couple of picks in the fourth Javon Foster tackle

755
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: out of Missouri, Jordan Jefferson defensive tackle out of LSU,

756
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: more of a nose tackle type. But let's start with Foster.

757
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: The Jaguars at the tackle position have Cam Robinson, who's

758
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: going into a contract year, who is on a big

759
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: money contract, Walker Little, who is the swing tackle who

760
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: is the second round pick a few years ago and

761
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to crack the lineup consistently, and then

762
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: Anton Harrison, of course a first round draft pick last year.

763
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Speaker 1: So where does Foster fit into the equation and what

764
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Speaker 1: can he bring when he's out there.

765
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Speaker 4: I think Javon Foster is more likely a swing tackle

766
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: right now. I don't expect him to be in the

767
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: starting lineup right now. I will say, though, I thought

768
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Speaker 4: this guy was one of the most underrated prospects in

769
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Speaker 4: the NFL draft, and I'm a big fan of Jacksonville

770
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: Jaguar selecting him in the fourth round. Like you said,

771
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Speaker 4: it is a kind of a crowded tackle room that

772
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: they have right now. But there's not denying Javon Foster

773
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: in the SEC over the last three years has been

774
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 4: extremely productive as Missouri's starting left tackle. In fact, get

775
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 4: eighty grades in every single year of the last three

776
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 4: seasons when he's been a starter, so he has really

777
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 4: really been an impressive player. You know, there's eleven Power

778
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 4: five tackles since twenty twenty one that's had eighty plus

779
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 4: greeds both as a passbuocker and as a run blocker.

780
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: Javon Foster is one of them, and the other here's

781
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: seven other of them. Javon Foster, Joe Alt, Talisa Flogo,

782
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 4: Charles Cross, Peters, Keronski, Evan Neil Dewan Jones.

783
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean, those are all starting.

784
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: NFL offensive lineman right now and a lot of them

785
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: were first round picks as well. So Javon Foster's not

786
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: an elite athlete, doesn't have great ben doesn't have great flexibility.

787
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: But I do think he's been a really productive player.

788
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: And I think down the line, if you're telling me

789
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 4: this guy's a starting tackle down the line in the NFL,

790
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be too shocked, honestly. So I was a

791
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: huge fan of Javon Foster coming out. I even probably

792
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 4: would have taken him, maybe even the third round of

793
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: the draft. So Jackson getting him in the fourth round

794
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: that was a really good steal. And yeah, I'm a

795
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: huge fan of his game, and we'll see how he

796
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: could do in the NFL. But if he's anything like

797
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: he was in college, he could be a very very

798
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: productive player.

799
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Speaker 1: And consistently available as well. He was out there a lot,

800
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: played a lot of consecutive games at Missouri. George Jefferson,

801
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Speaker 1: big body, nose tackle, and I loved his interview. It

802
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: was on the porch after the draft. He was on

803
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Speaker 1: his front porch. He had like a shirtless shirt T

804
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: shirt or sleepless T shirt on, wrap around sunglasses. He

805
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: was just kind of like that, that gritty nose tackle

806
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: type and you need those guys on your D line.

807
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah.

808
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: And I think it's the first time I think I

809
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 4: saw stats the first time ever that one school took

810
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: three players from the same one team, excuse me, took

811
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: three players from the same school at georg Jefferson was

812
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 4: the third LS Tiger that Trent Balky and the Jacksonville

813
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: dag were selected. Here a lot like Mason Smith in

814
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: some ways where he's kind of still a raw player

815
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 4: that needs to develop a little bit. But there's note

816
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: denying he's got great tools. I mean he tested as

817
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: a well above average athlete. He had thirty four bench

818
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 4: press reps, which were in the ninety fourth percent tile

819
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 4: for defensive tackles even with longer arms too.

820
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: Usually when you have.

821
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: A lot of bench press reps as a guy with

822
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Speaker 4: shorter arms, because obviously it's easier to get it up

823
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 4: we have shorter arms, when you have long arms like Jefferson,

824
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 4: it's harder to put up that many reps. And yet

825
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 4: he's that just shows how strong of a player he is.

826
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 4: He's able to stack and shed blockers in the run

827
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: game really well. He holds up really well against double teams,

828
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: good burst off the ball, even though he's not covering

829
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: a lot of ground. I think he's a solid athlete overall.

830
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: Now the problem with him is he's just not much

831
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: of a pass rusher right now. He has a sixty

832
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 4: one grade in pass rushing over this past season.

833
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: He's kind of still developing technically.

834
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Speaker 4: But I think as a run defender, he's a very

835
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: strong player, will hold up against double teams, cause stack

836
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: and shed blockers. He's got a good burst as well.

837
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: He's a good athlete, just gotta get some refinement I

838
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: think in his game, especially as a pass rusher. For

839
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: it could be a full time starter for a team.

840
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: But if you're asking him just to be a guy

841
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 4: who could eat up double teams and stack and shed

842
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: in the run game on first and second down, that's

843
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: something I think you could do pretty quickly. So that's

844
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Speaker 4: probably what Jacksonville has in mind for him right now,

845
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Speaker 4: and I think that's something he's he should be able

846
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: to do pretty quickly in his rookie year.

847
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Speaker 1: Max Chadwick, pro football focused analyst and the co host

848
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Speaker 1: of the PFF College Football Show, joining us all Right,

849
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Speaker 1: well group the last four draft picks in kind of

850
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Speaker 1: the same window. Here Deandrey Prince from Ole Miss the

851
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: corner back in the fifth round, Keeland Robinson, Texas running

852
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: back and kick returner in the fifth round, Cam Little,

853
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: the twenty year old kicker at Arkansas on the sixth round,

854
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: and Miles Cole defensive end Texas Tech. Obviously, these a

855
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: lot of times will be special teams contributors and maybe

856
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: developed a lot of times fighting to make the roster

857
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: in the later rounds, especially in the seventh round. Cam

858
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: Little should be here as the kicker. Robinson might have

859
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: a chance as a kick returner, but of those you

860
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: know three position players will leave the kicker out of it.

861
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: Who could make the most impact early? Who has the

862
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: better chance to make this team?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

864
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: Good question.

865
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Speaker 4: I think it's kind of a cop out answer, considering

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Speaker 4: he was the highest drafted of all of them. I

867
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Speaker 4: think Theatre Prince is an interesting guy. I mean, he

868
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: has seventy plus grades and all three years the starter

869
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Speaker 4: at Ole Miss. He's really good in his own covers,

870
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Speaker 4: really really good run defender as well. He ran a

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Speaker 4: four to three eight forty yards. The problem with him

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Speaker 4: and why he went a little bit lower in the draft.

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Speaker 4: You know you hear all those stats, and like, well,

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Speaker 4: how did this guy add up falling in the fifth round.

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Speaker 4: He's only one hundred eighty four pounds at six feet tall,

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Speaker 4: and he's a guy that really loves to play in

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Speaker 4: press coverage. That's just not really something that could happen

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Speaker 4: in the NFL if you're only one hundred eighty four pounds,

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Speaker 4: like you could get bodied by bigger receivers in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: At that size.

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Speaker 4: So he's got to get stronger if he wants to

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Speaker 4: become more of a press corner. But even at one

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Speaker 4: was holding up one press coverage and he was a

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Speaker 4: great run defender too. Usually those smaller corners like that,

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Speaker 4: that's where you see them get get tossed around a

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Speaker 4: little bit in the run game, and then in press coverage.

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Speaker 4: DeAndre Prince plays bigger than what he's listed at honestly.

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Speaker 4: So I think he could be a really good special

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Speaker 4: a guy that needs to add just some strength, but

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Speaker 4: he could be a good press corner in the league.

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Speaker 4: So I, like I said, special team is probably going

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Speaker 4: to be a guy that's going to be used early

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Speaker 4: and add some strength, he could contribute more as a

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Speaker 4: Don't know if we'll ever be a full time starter

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Speaker 4: I like Deatrick Prince a lot, and I think he's

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Speaker 4: an interesting guy in that secondary. Again, I won't expect

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Speaker 4: he definitely there's definitely a role for him on that

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907
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Speaker 4: That's something that could really translate well to special teams

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Speaker 4: because really special teams is all about mentality a mostly,

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Speaker 4: So you got to go out there and give it

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Speaker 4: your all on every play, and I think Deadrick Prince

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Speaker 5: Like I said, I could go for this off season,

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Speaker 5: get stronger, get healthier, do the things I needed to

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Speaker 5: do to get my body, you know, back to my

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Speaker 5: old self. And just as a team, you know, just

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Speaker 5: you know, have a reef as mindset and I hugy mindset,

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Speaker 5: ready for another opportunity to you know, play in February.

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Speaker 1: And James, that's Tyson Campbell, Jaguars fourth year cornerback, Welcome Back.

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Speaker 1: I guess that was on Wednesday. What is today? Thursday?

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Speaker 1: I guess it was tuesday. It was Tuesday. I talked

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Speaker 1: Campbell coming up, and he missed six games last season,

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Speaker 1: he's geared up and ready to go now going into

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Speaker 1: this now fourth season in the National Football League. Of course,

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Speaker 1: hopefully that's the case moving ahead, new defense and maybe

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Speaker 1: for joining us. It's time for keeping it real. Insert

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Speaker 1: real as it gets, by the way. But OTAs organized

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Speaker 1: team activities start next week and Monday May twentieth is

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Speaker 1: the first one open to media. The first of each

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Speaker 1: week will be open to media, no fans allowed, So

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Speaker 1: May twentieth, May twenty eighth, June third, we'll have eyes

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Speaker 1: on what's going on out there, and then mandatory mini

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Speaker 1: camp the week after that June ten, eleven, and twelve,

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Speaker 1: And in years past, if there's enough participation in the

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Speaker 1: so that's a good sign. And there are certain rules

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Speaker 1: in the OTA, so you can be in the building

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Speaker 1: six hours a day, two hours max on the field.

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Speaker 1: Helmets are allowed for the first time, no live contact,

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Speaker 1: no one on ones but there is eleven on eleven

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Speaker 1: offense versus defense and special teams drills that are allowed

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Speaker 1: starting next week for the next four weeks, so we'll

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Speaker 1: And then eleven on eleven. As we said, no live contact,

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Speaker 1: see some We'll at least get to see some guys

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Speaker 1: And finally it's gets started next week and they're limited

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Speaker 1: So we're closing in on the dead zone. And it

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Speaker 1: we go into the off season program begins in mid April,

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Speaker 1: and then the draft hits, and now the draft's over

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Speaker 1: and the rookies are here, and then we're just in

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Speaker 1: about four weeks time they're all gone and then it's

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Speaker 1: back for training camping in late July. So that's coming

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Speaker 1: up next week and we're excited to see it, and

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio and Jaguars dot com. Or thanks today of

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Speaker 1: course to John Osier, senior writer Jaguars dot Com, Max

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Speaker 1: Chadwick of Pro Football Focus for joining us. Full conversation

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Speaker 1: with Max available at Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Or thanks to Max Hawkman and David Choe in our

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