1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hey, this is any and Samantha, what come to stuff? 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: I ever told you a prediction of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: And today we are highlighting the amazing works of Garlin Joseph, 4 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: a Haitian activist who's been working to fight for our 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: community and other refugees around the world. And yes, obviously 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: we're still carrying on and making sure we are talking 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: about all the people's no matter what month, it is, 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: more feminists around the world, and we will never stop. 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: It's Women's History month now, so we're talking more women's surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, 10 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: And yes, we were talking women's as an inclusive of 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: every person who identifies as women and according to Amnesty 12 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: dot org, as of July twenty twenty three, she runs 13 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: the the only black and Haitian women led organization that 14 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: works to help migrants on either side of the US 15 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Mexico border, which is the Haitian Bridge Alliance or HbA 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: were also known as the Bridge. Joseph has been outspoken 17 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: about the needs of the migrant community and the racist 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: and inhumane treatment of the refugees. She's been at the 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: forefront of not only working to educate the public and 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: migrants of the knees and dangers the migrant community faces, 21 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: but she's been a political activist working to seek political 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: and social change. 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: Joseph started her advocacy activism as a child, witnessing the 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: inequalities and its treatment of so many of her community. 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty one Forbes article titled a Black 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Immigrants Mission to center Black Migrants at the Southern Border, 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: they quote Joseph remembers when her father took her to 28 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: meet Abner Louima, a Haitian immigrant wrongfully arrested, handcuffed, and 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: forcefully sodomized with a broken broomstick by two New York 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: City Police Department officers. As a little girl, I had 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: a chance to bear witness to real violence against black bears. 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: I remember holding my father's hand as he took me 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: to visit mister Louima in the hospital, said Joseph, co 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: founder and executive director of the Haitian Bridge Alliance. While 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: a Haitian just like me, it was clear that those 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: two officers saw his color before they ever considered his 37 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: immigration status or country of origin. Joseph continued seeing Abner 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: Luima laying in that bed, barely breathing and missing most 39 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: of his teeth made it clear that my blackness and 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: my immigration status are interconnected, and the article continues. That 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: moment in nineteen ninety seven, coupled with a twenty fifteen 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: phone call from a colleague about Haitian migrant seeking asylum 43 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: on the US Mexico border, turned Joseph from an outspoken 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: immigration advocate to a black immigrant woman on a mission 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: to center black immigrants, those already in the United States, 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: and especially those praying and hoping for entry and refuge 47 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: on America's southern. 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Border, and with that she started her organization, the Haitian 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Bridge Alliance. Oh here's what their website says. The Haitian 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: Bridge Alliance HbA, also known as The Bridge, as a grassroots, 51 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: nonprofit community organization that advocates for fair and humane immigration 52 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: policies and provides migrants and immigrants with humanitarian, legal and 53 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: social services, with a particular focus on black people, the 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: Haitian community, women and girls, LGBTQIA plus individuals and survivors 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: of torture and other human rights abuse. It goes on, 56 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: we focus on the issues unique to black migrants and 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: build solidarity and collective movement toward policy change. We work 58 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: closely with the black migrant communities throughout the United States 59 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: progressive coalitions fighting anti blackness and advocate locally, nationally, and 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: internationally for fair and just immigration policies. We're working to 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: end racist border policies like the Remain in Mexico policy 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: Title forty two and the Border to Prison and Deportation Pipeline. 63 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: We advocate for the expansion of TPS, protection for more communities, DACA, 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: and an overhaul of the asylum system that centers dignity 65 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: and passion, not cruelty. Since twenty sixteen, HbA has regularly 66 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: brought delegations of lawyers, doctors, and other volunteers to the 67 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: same Diego Tijuana border to provide humanitarian relief to Haitian 68 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: and other black migrants from Africa. We also work with 69 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Haitian migrants in Tapatula, Mexico, and were the first organizations 70 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: on the ground during the Del Rio emergency. We aim 71 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: to transform the perception of the border from the misguided 72 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: stereotype that it only impacts a certain set of people 73 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: to Transamerican global space that includes black people, because immigration 74 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: is a black issue. 75 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: And here is a bit directly about Joseph and her 76 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: work within the organization quote with many hands, that work 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: is light. This Haitian proverb serves as Garlin Joseph's inspiration 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: and the vision behind the Haitian Bridge Alliance in twenty fifteen. 79 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 2: Garlin is a human rights advocate who dedicates her life 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: to bringing awareness to issues that affect us all locally 81 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: and globally, such as immigration, domestic violence, child sexual abuse, 82 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: and other human rights issues. And she and her organization 83 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: have been doing their continuous work in order to get 84 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: justice and help for the migrant community, and part of 85 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: that work has been to fight against Title FI two 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: in the US, which was finally lifted in twenty twenty three, 87 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 2: but a lot of heavy stipulations were still put into place. 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: Right and just a note, Title forty two is quote 89 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: created to address public health and social welfare and grants 90 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: the government the ability to take emergency action in numerous ways, 91 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: including to stop the introduction of communical diseases. While the 92 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: code has been in place for decades, it was used 93 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: widely beginning in March twenty twenty by the administration of 94 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: then President Donald Trump in order to regulate border crossings 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: under the premise of increased COVID nineteen precautions. The Trump 96 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: administration used Title forty two essentially to override immigration law 97 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: that allowed people to ask for asylum after entering illegally 98 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: and said we could send them back across the border, 99 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: arguing that taking micros into custody and federal facilities would 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: create more of a public health risk. And that was 101 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: from the PBS article. 102 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: And recently, Joseph and the bridge helped bring a lawsuit 103 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: against the current administration for quote, racial discrimination and rights 104 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: violations of Haitian asylum seekers. In truthout dot org, they 105 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: write the suit was brought on behalf of eleven Haitian 106 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: asylum seekers who were abused by US border agents as 107 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: more than fifteen thousand people, mostly from Haiti, were forced 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: to stay in a makeshift border encampment on the banks 109 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: of the Rio Grande near the Acuna del Rio International 110 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: Bridge in Texas. One of the plaintiffs is Mirard Joseph, 111 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: the asylum seeker whose image went viral after being photographed 112 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: while a border patrol agent on horseback lashed him with 113 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: split reins, grabbed his neck, and gripped Joseph by the 114 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: shirt collar. 115 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: Right, And they quoted Joseph in that article, as her saying, 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: this is a critical junction in our country here in 117 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: the United States, as we make sure to uphold human 118 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: rights and understanding seeking asylum is a human right. We 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: will continue to push forward and make sure that accountability 120 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: is served, but also we have systematic change in the 121 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: way that we receive people in the United States, and 122 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: just as a side, the lawsuit was originally filed in 123 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, but was just her last week, and according. 124 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: To the transcript from the hearing, Joseph testified for what 125 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: they were asking for in that hearing quote, there are 126 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: a few things we are asking for. We'll be able 127 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: to share more as the case continues, but one of 128 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: the things we are asking is accountability, justice for those 129 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: people to be able to get a fair access to 130 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: protection as they continue to barely survive because the conditions 131 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: in Haiti continue to be extremely difficult, and the deportation 132 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: and expulsions of those people were found to be unacceptable. 133 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: So we will continue to fight and we are grateful 134 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: that the judge listened to our request to continue this case. 135 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: And even though the government said that our case had 136 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: no basis, and what the world saw is that what 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: we witnessed, but we will continue to push forward and 138 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: make sure that accountability is served. But also we have 139 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: systematic change in the way that we receive people in 140 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: the United States and making sure we have a fair, 141 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: just immigration system where people can continue to seek asylum 142 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: and seek protection. 143 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: Obviously, she and her organization are quite busy again, like 144 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: we said, last week was the hearing in front of 145 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: the judges. And just to add to her mini roles, 146 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: here's a bit of information on other things that Joseph 147 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: has been a part of and continues to do. According 148 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: to her biography on docs dot house dot gov. Miss 149 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Joseph created Tales from the US Mexico, Borderlands and Beyond 150 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: and Immigration Information Session focusing on Black immigrants and the 151 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: Borderlands and Beyond. She is also a co creator of 152 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Faith and Action and Immigration Justice Movement in Southern California, 153 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: a four part immigration program for both impacted communities and allies. 154 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: Miss Joseph uses her platform FYI for Your Inspiration Radio 155 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: located in Mission Behill with correspondence in Africa to give 156 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: a voice to the voiceless coast to coast and around 157 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: the world. Miss Joseph also served as an advisory member 158 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: to Voices against Violence and their efforts to prevent domestic 159 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: violence in California and around the world. She was a 160 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: chairwoman of Award and Action from twenty thirteen to twenty nineteen, 161 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: a nonprofit organization that aims to prevent and decrease the 162 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: occurrence of child sexual abuse. 163 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: And here are some accolades she has received. According to 164 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: the National Alliance for Advancement of Haitian Professionals quote, Miss 165 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: Joseph was named one of Politico's twenty twenty one forty 166 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: most Influential people on race, politics, and policy in the 167 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: United States for her leadership and is the recipient of 168 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: prestigious awards, most recently the LOSS America's twenty twenty one 169 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: Border Heroes Award, the twenty twenty one Robert F. Kennedy 170 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: Human Rights Award, the twenty twenty two National Haitian American 171 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: Elected Officials Network Community Champion Award, and the twenty twenty 172 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: two American Immigration Lawyers Associations Arthur C. Helton Human Rights Award. 173 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: That's quite unmouthful, but she deserves all of those awards. 174 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: And war you know, I know these awards are great, 175 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: but the fact that we have to attach people's names 176 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: on it and make it even longer instead of vagueous 177 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: America Immigration Lawyers Association Human Rights Award. I feel like 178 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: I nailed the last You nailed everything about that anyway. 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, these are just her recent awards. 180 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: She has a bigger list like started like way back 181 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: early two thousands, like twenty nineteen, like she received so 182 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: many more that were just not going down the list. 183 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: She doesn't have a Wikipedia page, which is horrifying to 184 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: me because I'm like, she's one these accolades I don't understand. 185 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: And she's doing so much work with Haitian community and 186 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: the immigrant situation. Obviously again doing some amazing things. She 187 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: was testifying in front of the White House as well. 188 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: I think she actually had a whole thing where it 189 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: was presented to President Biden as well in these conversations 190 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: and again had a huge part in taking down or 191 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: making sure that title forty two was autsigned, resigned, or renewed. 192 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: And I think it actually went away in twenty twenty three. 193 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: So it was supposed to go in a way in 194 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, but it stuck around the under the 195 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: guys at COVID. This is a COVID measure, which is 196 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: abhorrent anyway, But yes, amazing works from garyln Joseph, and 197 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna hear a lot more, especially with 198 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: that case. 199 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and if any listeners, because I know we've talked 200 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: about this before, if you have the time and the 201 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: interest of making a Wikipedia page, you can. Here's a suggestion. 202 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: And if you have any suggestions for us for people 203 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: we could cover in the segment or organizations we could cover, 204 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: you can let us know. You can email us at 205 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: Stephanie momsteffantiheartmedia dot com. 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