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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in hour number two Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Buck on vacation this week with

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Speaker 1: his lovely wife Carrie. He will be back Tuesday, right

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Speaker 1: after Labor Day. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about the big CNN interview with Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris and Tim Walls and the fact that Dana Bash

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Speaker 1: likely will be in the tank and not ask real questions.

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Speaker 1: I laid out all those real questions for all of

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Speaker 1: you joining us now. Is a woman who makes a

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Speaker 1: living answering real questions all over the media landscape. She

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Speaker 1: is new mom. Caroline Levitt been on the show with

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Speaker 1: us for many years now. Caroline, appreciate you coming on

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Speaker 1: with us. How wild is the campaign season for you?

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Speaker 1: What's happening Labor Day weekend?

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on today? It is absolutely wild, especially

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Speaker 2: being a new mom, no doubt about it. And now

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Speaker 2: we're about to be in the post Labor Day sprint.

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Speaker 2: It's going to get even crazier. Last week, the American

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Speaker 2: people saw President Trump barnstorming the country. He was in

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Speaker 2: I think seven states in the matter of five days,

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Speaker 2: and that's what they can expect moving forward. The President

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Speaker 2: works harder than anyone I know, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: be all over the country, criss crossing all the battleground states,

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Speaker 2: bring in his message and contrasting his record of success

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Speaker 2: with Kamala's record of failures and weakness. We're very excited

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Speaker 2: about the big debate on September tenth. We have finally

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Speaker 2: agreed to terms with the Harris campaign. They tried to

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Speaker 2: backtrack a little bit on us. They wanted Kammlin to

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Speaker 2: bring in notes. I think they're getting worried because they

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Speaker 2: know she's incapable of speaking without a teleprompter nearby. But

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Speaker 2: we hope that she'll show up on the tenth. President

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Speaker 2: Trump will be there no matter what, and we're excited

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell us about that debate on September tenth. My

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Speaker 1: understanding is it's going to be in Philadelphia. There will

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Speaker 1: be no audience President, they will be standing, The mics

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Speaker 1: will be muted when you know the other candidate is

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Speaker 1: not speaking. In other words, the candidate who is speaking

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Speaker 1: can speak, but the other one cannot, and then no notes.

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Speaker 1: Am I right about all those details.

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Speaker 2: You are correct about all of those details. It is

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Speaker 2: the exact same rules and ground game that we had

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Speaker 2: in the CNN debate with Joe Biden, and our campaign

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Speaker 2: and the Harris campaign agreed to those terms to keep

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Speaker 2: it the same and then, frankly, it worked out quite

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Speaker 2: well for us, didn't it. It knocked Joe Biden out of

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Speaker 2: the race. I mean, the reason we have Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: today is because President Trump dominated him in that debate

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Speaker 2: so much so it really exposed his cognitive decline. However,

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Speaker 2: the Harris campaign again, they tried to backtrack in the

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Speaker 2: past week. They wanted her to bring in notes. They

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Speaker 2: blamed it on the mics. That wasn't it. They're realizing

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Speaker 2: as they a prep Kamala for the debate that she

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Speaker 2: is ill equipped of explaining policy. She doesn't know where

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Speaker 2: she stands. They're trying to make her look like a

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Speaker 2: moderate when she is not. She is truly a radical liberal.

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Speaker 2: They're having a hard time with it, but nevertheless, we

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Speaker 2: came to an agreement. It is set in stone and

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Speaker 2: September tenth is the big night.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kamala is doing an interview tonight with CNN. I

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what time they're taping, but it's with

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Speaker 1: Dana Bash, who was one of the moderators of the

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Speaker 1: June twenty seventh debate alongside of Jake Tapper. If I

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Speaker 1: remember correctly, when Trump, your boss knocked out Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: legitimately knocked him out of politics. What do you expect

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Speaker 1: the interview to look like for Dana Bash and Walls

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Speaker 1: and Harris Part one, Part two? You are the campaign spokesperson.

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Speaker 1: I would bet that the Trump team doesn't tell you, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you need to take a boy with you when you

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Speaker 1: do an interview as a woman. Do you see Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris needing to bring a man with her for an

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Speaker 1: interview when she's claiming that she wants to be commander

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Speaker 1: in chief as a pretty significant sign of weakness.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely do, and frankly, I think it sends a

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Speaker 2: horrible message to women and girls across the country who

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Speaker 2: are watching her campaign and seeing her run as the

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Speaker 2: the first hopeful female president of the United States, and

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Speaker 2: she can't even sit down for an interview by herself.

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Speaker 2: I think it's actually quite sad and set the horrible example.

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Speaker 2: But the CNN interview is set to pre tape. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: in about an hour from now, And look, Clay, I've

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Speaker 2: aired my grievances with Dana Bass and Jake Tapper before.

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Speaker 2: I think in the debate with President Trump and Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: they actually proved to be quite fair. And I hope

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Speaker 2: that Dana Bash will be fair and tough against Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris in the same way she was against Senator jd

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Speaker 2: more than an hour long interview and answered tough questions

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Speaker 2: in the past. She needs to question Kamala Harris about

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Speaker 2: the things she has said in the past, like does

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Speaker 2: she still support her radical ban on tracking, does she

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Speaker 2: still support the decriminalization of illegal immigration, does she still

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Speaker 2: support eliminating task bill for violent criminals? And why did

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Speaker 2: she and Walls allow violent rioters to burn down and

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Speaker 2: if in businesses and homes in the summer of twenty

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Speaker 2: of jail. So, look, there are a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: that need to be asked and answered of Kamala Harris tonight.

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Speaker 2: It is CNN's responsibility to do so. We hope that

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Speaker 2: they will, and we will have to see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that there will be a second debate

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Speaker 1: between Trump and Kamala Harris? We know she was afraid

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Speaker 1: and unwilling to do. I think it was September fourth,

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Speaker 1: on Fox News, President Trump suggested Martha McCollum and Brett

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Speaker 1: Bayer as moderators. I think that would have been very fair.

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Speaker 1: I think both of them do great work. This is

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Speaker 1: me personally. I've been on both their shows. I think

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Speaker 1: they have very fair shows. They certainly even I think

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Speaker 1: President Trump wasn't happy with Brett Bayer for one interview

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Speaker 1: because he thought he was too tough or didn't like

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Speaker 1: some of the questions. But Trump was willing to go

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Speaker 1: and do the Fox News debate. Do you think Kamala

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Speaker 1: will try to do only one? Do you think there

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Speaker 2: Well, we certainly want there to be more than one.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that President Trump has committed to

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Speaker 2: three debates with Kamala Harris. She's of course, only committed

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Speaker 2: to the ABC debate, but he committed to one with NBC,

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Speaker 2: which is arguably the most biased network of all, and

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Speaker 2: he committed to one with Fox News, which Kamala of course,

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Speaker 2: rejected those invitations. I don't know. You'll have to ask

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Speaker 2: the Hairs campaign if they ever come on your show, Clay.

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Speaker 1: I think they will trust me.

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Speaker 2: I would hold your brother, but I don't think that.

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Speaker 2: I think they are waiting to see how Kamala performs

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Speaker 2: and then they will make a decision on whether or

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Speaker 2: not she shows up for another debate. But we'd like

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Speaker 2: to do as many as possible.

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Speaker 1: When you I think that, by the way, is one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent right for what they're going to do. They're

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Speaker 1: going to wait and see how it goes and then

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Speaker 1: decide whether they're willing to sit for NBC. The President

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Speaker 1: has been doing interviews all over the place with everyone,

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Speaker 1: including and I've been impressed by this, and I think

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Speaker 1: for our audience, you might be able to explain it

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Speaker 1: very well because you're young, and there's so many voters

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Speaker 1: out there that are young that find their information from

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Speaker 1: YouTube or from social media influencer. So, for instance, I

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Speaker 1: think it's aiden ross super popular on social media. Same

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Speaker 1: thing with Theo Vaughan. The President Trump did big sit

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Speaker 1: down interviews with both of those guys. For instance, what's

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Speaker 2: Well, President Trump has always sat down with the legacy

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Speaker 2: media first of all, right, the CNN, nuc's, ABC's of

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Speaker 2: the world. He has never been afraid to go into

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Speaker 2: these hostile environments, and he continues to do that. He

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Speaker 2: also engages in local media interviews all the time.

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Speaker 3: These don't really.

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Speaker 2: Even get picked up or noticed in the press or

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Speaker 2: on X if you will, But every time we go

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Speaker 2: to a state, President Trump makes a point to speak

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Speaker 2: that state. And then another part of his earned media

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Speaker 2: strategy is sitting down with these alternative earned media venues,

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Speaker 2: X with Elon Musk, which had a massive following, massive listenership.

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Speaker 2: There was I believe more than a billion impressions on

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Speaker 2: that live stream. A couple days later, the Aiden Ross

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Speaker 2: which is currently number one on Spotify. And so these

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Speaker 2: opportunities are purposeful and they give President Trump in an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to speak to different demographics that don't watch traditional

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Speaker 2: talk to them about his policies and really share his

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Speaker 2: vision for the country. And it's been wildly successful, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we're getting a good bang for our buck,

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Speaker 2: so to speak, with these interviews, and the President really

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Speaker 2: enjoys doing them. He is such a conversationalist. He's so wise,

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Speaker 2: he's a great storyteller, and he has a real command

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Speaker 2: And that's just something that Kamala Harris is truly incapable

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Speaker 2: of viewing. She has proven that time and time again.

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Speaker 2: Every time she's without a script or talking points from

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Speaker 2: doesn't have conviction in what she believes. I don't think

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Speaker 2: she's very smart, to be honest with you, and she

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Speaker 2: lacks credibility on many of the issues that matter.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Caroline Levitt, Trump campaign spokesperson. You are

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Speaker 1: a member of gen Z if I'm not mistaken. That

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Speaker 1: is people who are roughly eighteen to twenty nine year old. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this is a question for you that I was

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Speaker 1: talking about earlier. This week, we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: people out there listening, daughters, granddaughters that are Kamala supporters.

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Speaker 1: There's a New York Times story that the biggest gap

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Speaker 1: in age range support on gender issues is actually eighteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty nine year old boys eighteen to twenty nine men,

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Speaker 1: however you want to classify it, are voting for Trump

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Speaker 1: by plus twelve. I believe women were voting for Kamala

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Speaker 1: by plus thirty eight. According to again, this was the

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Speaker 1: Sunday New York Times. I read this in why do

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Speaker 1: you think that is?

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Speaker 2: I am gen Z. In fact, my birthday, twenty seventh

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Speaker 2: birthday was this past week. I'm still waiting on my

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Speaker 2: cake from you, Clay.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy birthday. Yeah, it's on the way right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just got a FedEx notice. They managed

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Speaker 1: to lose it, so it'll be there soon.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Well, I thank you in advance for that. No, look,

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Speaker 2: it actually answer your question. I do think there is

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Speaker 2: a gap, a gender gap that exists, especially amongst young

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Speaker 2: people in this country, with men versus women. In fact,

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Speaker 2: young men Generation Z boys are the most conservative demographic

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Speaker 2: that we've seen in decades in terms of young people,

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Speaker 2: like they identify as more conservative than we've seen from

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Speaker 2: this age group since the sixties. I actually read that

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Speaker 2: and recently sow it in a poll. Well, you look

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Speaker 2: at women, it's a little bit different. I think it

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Speaker 2: has a lot to do with the culture that we

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Speaker 2: live in unfortunately, a lot to do with media, and frankly,

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Speaker 2: every institution in this country is controlled by leftists. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think Telegram is unusual. WhatsApp everyone used to think

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Speaker 3: So there's really very little left on the web that's

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Speaker 3: one of the last and of course that made Pavel Turov,

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Speaker 3: cough up the information. And now it's the French that

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Speaker 3: have done it. And you know, there is some evidence

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Speaker 3: part of that attempt to lock this guy up for many,

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Speaker 1: Okay, are you troubled as troubled as I am? And

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Speaker 1: you and I have had a long discussion about this.

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Speaker 1: We did a long form discussion about this a while back.

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Speaker 1: The FBI seesed the Hunter Biden laptop in December of

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. You can correct me if I'm wrong. On

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Speaker 1: this data. In the summer of twenty twenty, they started

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Speaker 1: that it had to be camped down by Facebook, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: everywhere else. A lot of people want to focus on

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg, and they want to focus on Jack Dorsey

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Speaker 1: back in the day, the guys who ran Facebook and Twitter,

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Speaker 1: among other social media sites. But the argument I've been

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Speaker 1: there's a Russian disinformation campaign coming, and then the New

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Speaker 1: York Post story came out, It's not crazy that their

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Speaker 1: first thought would be, oh, my goodness, the FBI was right.

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Speaker 1: I'm far more troubled by who ordered the code red

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Speaker 1: inside of our government. And I'm also equally troubled that

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Speaker 1: a huge number of journalists, the vast, vast majority of them,

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Speaker 1: don't seem to care at all to unravel that mystery.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a sense for who would have been

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Speaker 1: ordering the code read inside of the government? And is

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Speaker 1: a that arguably the biggest American political story of the

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Speaker 1: twenty first century.

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Speaker 3: Bingo, Absolutely, and it all is a part. It's the

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Speaker 3: same people that decided that they were going to sabotage

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump even before he got into office, the Russia hoax,

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Speaker 3: the Ukraine impeachment, and finally they were determined, these cabal

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Speaker 3: of people inside the CIA. I mean this goes right

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Speaker 3: to the top of the CIA. Remember that letter written

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Speaker 3: by fifty one former intelligence officials lying that our stories

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Speaker 3: and the laptop were Russian disinformation. We now know that

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Speaker 3: that was engineered by now Secretary of State, then a

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Speaker 3: campaign official for Joe Biden, Anthony Blincoln. He got with

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Speaker 3: a he instigated that letter to be written by these

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Speaker 3: CIA directors. There were five former acting or serving CIA

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Speaker 3: directors who saw that letter and who organized it and

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Speaker 3: who coerced the other CIA people to sign it. Those

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Speaker 3: people and that letter were signed off by the head

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Speaker 3: is a push inside the CIA itself, with help from

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Speaker 3: other intel agencies like the FBI, people in the DOJ,

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Speaker 3: fellow travelers who all believed that Donald still believed that

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is an existential threat to quote democracy. All

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Speaker 3: he is is a threat to their unfettered agenda, and

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Speaker 3: they have been doing things in the American people's name

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Speaker 3: that we don't know about, and if we did, we

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Speaker 3: would say no. And that includes things like regime change

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Speaker 3: in Russia, endless wars, and trying to, you know, start

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Speaker 3: World War three. They are very dangerous people and Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump is a threat to them.

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Speaker 1: Branda, You've got a new book coming out. I actually

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Speaker 1: can't wait to read it. I didn't know this was happening.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about the new book and

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Speaker 1: what the focus is.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. It's called The Big Guy. It's out

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Speaker 3: next month, September twenty four, and it's basically the story

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Speaker 3: of the cover up of the laptop. We didn't know

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Speaker 3: half of it when we were first censored by Big

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Speaker 3: Tech in October of twenty twenty. The information that has

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Speaker 3: come out since, and that I have discovered from whistleblowers

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Speaker 3: named and unnamed, is just mind blowing. And it shows

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Speaker 3: you that Hunter Biden was being protected by the CIA

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Speaker 3: and by other sort of shadowy forces within the United

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Speaker 3: States government, and Joe Biden had a relationship with them

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Speaker 3: and was their puppet for decades, and they gave the

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Speaker 3: Biden family a green light to be corrupt and to

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Speaker 3: influence pedal around the world. When Joe Biden was vice president.

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Speaker 1: Miranda Devine New York Post yesterday. I was talking about

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Speaker 1: this is kind of a broad media question for you.

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Speaker 1: I love our industry, even though I think that it's

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Speaker 1: oftentimes a complete total joke, which is, you know, a

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Speaker 1: bit bittersweet, I would say. But I was talking about

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Speaker 1: the New York Times and the Washington Post and their

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Speaker 1: refusal to cover what I think is the biggest political

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Speaker 1: story of the twenty first century. That is members of

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Speaker 1: our government rigging the election by saying that something that

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Speaker 1: was they knew to be true. That is an inaccurate

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Speaker 1: the hunter Biden laptop that it was actually Russian disinformation,

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Speaker 1: And I made the point I'm glad the New York

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Speaker 1: Post exists, but you guys are still an advertiser driven business.

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Speaker 1: It isn't so much of a subscription business. Don't you

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Speaker 1: think if you could wave a magic wand that there

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Speaker 1: is a huge need for a Washington Post or New

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Speaker 1: York Times that is just a little bit to the right.

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Speaker 1: They're far left wing. I know the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: but it's more of a business focused publication. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I like the New York Post. There is no direct

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Speaker 1: equivalent of the New York Times or the Washington Post.

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Speaker 1: In the modern US media industry, you can say Fox News, MSNBC, CNN,

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Speaker 1: that's the cable market. Am I crazy to think that

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Speaker 1: there is no just a little bit right leaning version

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Speaker 1: of the New York Times in the Washington Post? And

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Speaker 1: I think that matters because those newspapers are now just

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Speaker 1: Democrat propaganda machines, and they're used to launder the truth,

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Speaker 1: and there isn't someone punching back against them as often

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Speaker 1: as should be the case. Am I crazy?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Look, you're so right, and I think it would fix

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Speaker 3: a lot of problems in this country if they were

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Speaker 3: a sort of an establishment newspape. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: be left or right. I don't care if they write

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Speaker 3: democrat leaning editorials as long as they tell the truth.

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Speaker 3: All they have to do is be honest and not

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Speaker 3: planned everything, and also go out looking for dirt against

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Speaker 3: For instance, the New York Times today has gone out

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Speaker 3: and looked for somebody to say something nasty about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: At Arlington Cemetery, they looked up the name of a

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Speaker 3: family whose son is buried in the same cemetery, and

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Speaker 3: this person said something very anodyne but it gets twisted

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Speaker 3: out of context and turned into a slur against Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: and then Democrat readers believe it, and then they write

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Speaker 3: to me and tell me I'm an idiot because I

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Speaker 3: don't know the truth. The New York Times and these

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Speaker 3: newspapers are propagandizing their readers, and their readers have their

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Speaker 3: polls showing that Democrats have enormous trust like seventy five

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Speaker 3: percent trust in their favorite media organs like the New

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Speaker 3: York Times and Washington Post, and Republicans don't because we

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Speaker 3: are forced to see both sides, and so we know

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Speaker 3: that most of the media is for of lies and propaganda,

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Speaker 3: and we filter recordingly, whereas Democrats are so naive that

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Speaker 3: they believe everything that they're told. And what's more, they

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Speaker 3: don't care even if you showed them proof that this

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Speaker 3: was a lie like Russia hoax. They don't care. They

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Speaker 3: don't want to know. They just want to stick in

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Speaker 3: their bubble of delusion.

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Speaker 1: She has Miranda Divine my number one overall draft pick

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Speaker 1: for the most honest reporter in the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: So far, I can't wait to read the book. Make

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Speaker 1: sure that you come back on and get us early

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Speaker 1: copies so we can be ready to talk about it

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Speaker 1: here on the show.

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Speaker 3: Love to thanks so much. Guy.

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Speaker 1: That's Miranda Devine. Go follow her, Go read her at

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Speaker 1: the New York Post. She nailed everything on the Hunter

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Speaker 1: a clip for you from my good buddy Joe Scarborough

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Speaker 1: all the time, the number of people out there who

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Speaker 1: in the Democrat Party recently that the Hunter Biden laptop

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Speaker 1: was all made up Russian disinformation because they bought into

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Speaker 1: here is Joe Scarborough saying, you're a moron essentially if

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Speaker 1: Russian disinformation, and history will judge you poorly for believing that.

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Speaker 4: Listen, here we are in twenty twenty. This is what

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Speaker 4: it's come down to America. Juliani is feeding Russian misinformation

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Speaker 4: to Donald Trumps, feeding Russian disinformation to the New York Post.

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Speaker 4: They know it's a lie, Russian hoax. Come on, History

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Speaker 4: stupid you think Americans are? For you can just say

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Speaker 4: Russian hoax? Seriously, Okay?

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Speaker 1: That aired on MSNBC. Joe Scarborough I tweeted it out

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Speaker 1: has never gone on the air and told his audience, Hey,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the Hunter Biden laptop was one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent rehab. There is accountability in media, certainly on this show.

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Speaker 1: If we get anything wrong, I come on. I tell

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Speaker 1: you you may not like our opinions, but we've never

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Speaker 1: they told everybody on MSNBC, that's what they told everybody

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Speaker 1: on CNN, the New York Times, of Washington Post. Democrats

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Speaker 1: believe more lies than you can possibly imagine. They just

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Speaker 1: don't hear the counter argument. Third Hour, Alex Barnson next