1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: Third hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Much 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: to discuss as we dive into the middle of a 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: week here together. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: We have Trump as the. 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Presumed now GOP presidential nominee, so it's effectively over. Donald 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Trump will be the GOP nominee. Joe Biden as of 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: now is also the presumed Democrat nominee, so we have 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: this presidential rematch underway. Twenty twenty four, twenty twenty We've 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: we've been here before, deja vu all over again, all 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: a Yogi. 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: Berra, and. 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: We're looking at the legislation that just got passed in 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: the House regarding TikTok. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: Now, I have. 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: Heterodox views on TikTok, and I will admit I am 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: not unbiased because I find TikTok to be entertaining and 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: pretty engaging. I also think that there are a lot 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: of companies that are a far greater concern to your 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: privacy and have far more influenced in American politics than 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: TikTok right now. That are social media companies, namely Google, 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: YouTube or Alphabet which owns Google and YouTube, and also Facebook, 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: which owns Instagram. There are people who are saying that 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: if you've got to find a buyer for the divested 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: TikTok divested from byte Dance, which is the Chinese company 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: that owns TikTok, if you have to find a buyer 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: for it, who's that going to be? Because if Mark 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: Zuckerberg can just buy it, well, I mean, how much 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: more monopoly do we really want online? 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: Right? 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: How much more of this do you want to be 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: in the hands of people who do not share your values? 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: Then have shown themselves. I mean, the social media companies 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: across the board, with the exceptions of Rumble and Truth 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: and I don't does Parlor even still exist. I don't 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: know if Parlor's still around. 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a great question. I don't know. 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it might still be technically around, but I 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: haven't heard about it in so long that it might 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: as well not be. But anyway, Rumble's doing great, which 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: is excellent news, and Truth social obviously has a very 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: high well valuation for Donald Trump, so that's something that's 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: been in the news recently. But Clay, the other social 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: media giants, which are all much much bigger than those 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: ones that just talked about they've shown themselves to be 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: entirely untrustworthy, and that they will throw elections, they will 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: be part of tyranny during a pandemic. They will censor. 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: They are dishonest, they are deeply ideological. They're basically a 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: bunch of vile commis who won't let you say what 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: you need to say at important times. Ted Cruz is 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: saying that this legislation, which still has to be voted 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: on in the Senate, might pass, we'll see, will not 54 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: eliminate TikTok. Here's what Senator Cruz has to say. 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 3: Play two. 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: What the House has done is I understand it is 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: not banned TikTok, and so a lot of the headlines 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 4: House votes to ban TikTok are inaccurate. What the House 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: has done is said China needs to sell TikTok, that 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: the Chinese Communist government cannot own and control TikTok, and 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: if China doesn't sell it, then they will ban TikTok. 62 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 4: But understand the objective of this legislation is not to 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: eliminate TikTok, but to put it on the same footing 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: as Facebook and Google and YouTube and get the Chinese 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: government out of that business. 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: A forced sale is still a pretty bold thing for 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: the government to do in this circumstance. I am troubled 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: by the precedent that this sets. I got a lot 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: of problems with this whole thing, this whole approach. I 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: understand it's complicated, Clay, how do you see this right now? 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 5: I think in his I think historically we're going to 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 5: look back on social media and see it as the 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 5: true and horse which destroyed America from the inside. And 74 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 5: that's not to say that there are not tremendous benefits 75 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 5: of social media. I don't think I would have the 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: career that I have if Twitter had not existed. I 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 5: think certainly I benefited from Facebook and Instagram and TikTok. 78 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 5: They've helped to get the message that I share, that 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 5: my company has shared, that you and I share out 80 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 5: to people that otherwise would not know we exist. That 81 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 5: doesn't mean, also that I can't acknowledge that. I don't 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 5: think it's coincidental that if you go look at mental 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 5: health in the United States, girls in particular teenage girls, 84 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: but boys too, but girls more so than boys. Their 85 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 5: mental health went off the charts in a bad way 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: about two thousand and eight, when the iPhone hit the 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 5: market in a large way and social media grew as 88 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: a result. I feel fortunate that you and I are 89 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 5: old enough to understand how the internet works, but not 90 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 5: to be defined by it. And I feel like there 91 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 5: are many of you that understand when I make that argument, 92 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 5: we're not so old that we don't understand how to 93 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 5: get on social media. I think there are a lot 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 5: of people in your seventies and eighties listening to us 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 5: right now, and you're like, the hell with all that. 96 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 5: My dad doesn't have an email address, he can barely text, 97 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 5: he's got great mental health. I don't think that's a coincidence. 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 5: I think that it's not coincidental. All of this has happened. 99 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 5: And I think I saw a stat this morning, Buck, 100 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 5: what happens when kids are not with their cell phones? 101 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 5: Seventy percent of them feel better their primary emotion. When 102 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 5: you are deprived from your cell phone, seventy percent of 103 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: them said they feel better. Teenagers, thirty percent of teenage 104 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 5: girls have thought about killing themselves in the last year. 105 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: All of these things are not TikTok specific. Social media generalized. 106 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: And yeah, so why why pick on TikTok. You know 107 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I mean, if you're making a case 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: against social media in general, I'm talking about they want 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: to get rid of this one social media platform because 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: they say that the data could be given to China 111 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: and that it could be a Chinese spying tool. You know, 112 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: I think that this sets a whole lot of precedents 113 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: that are troubling with the government deciding this foreign owned 114 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: business we don't have here. Here's the thing for you. 115 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: Has TikTok done anything wrong? Has TikTok shared any information 116 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: with the Chinese Communist Party? Has TikTok violated And the 117 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: answer to all of those questions are no. It is 118 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: entirely a supposition that at some point or it will 119 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: be used. 120 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 3: Well, either know or we don't know. 121 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: We don't know, but there's no but there's no even 122 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: allegation that that has happened. Yet the whole thing that 123 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: sounds like I'm like a TikTok spokesman over here. 124 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 3: So the whole thing, it's like. 125 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: There's no proof and it's not that I'm not aware 126 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: that you know, China is engaged in a long term 127 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 2: struggle with first of all, Chinese economy has massive problems 128 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: like China's got its own problems right now, which we 129 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: don't really talk about that much here on the show, 130 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: but it does economically demographically. 131 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: But put that aside for a moment. 132 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: I just think it's fascinating how many people that we see, 133 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: particularly members of Congress, who are just outraged at what 134 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: TikTok can do. Meanwhile, between Google, Amazon, and Facebook, these 135 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: mega corporations that are entirely adjuncts of the Democrat Party 136 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: already know everything about you and are already deciding what 137 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: you read and already deciding what's in the news, and 138 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: are already deciding what news sites really can thrive and 139 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: exist and which ones can't. And I think it's just 140 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: easy to make it look like you're taking a strong 141 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: stand against China by going against TikTok in this way, 142 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: when well, what's this really you know, I'm also very skeptical. 143 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, the Chinese are programming our kids to 144 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: be lazy. 145 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: No, like, we just got a lot of lazy kids. 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: Actually, same programming is appearing on Instagram and Facebook and 147 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: everything else. It's the whole algorithm is built to get 148 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 2: you to keep clicking, right. 149 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 5: It My biggest concern, I would say, is China doesn't 150 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: allow United States companies to compete on an even playing 151 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: ground on big tech, and so I want there to 152 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 5: be a mutuality of rules in place when it comes 153 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: to competition online. And this is not unique to TikTok. 154 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 5: What is the new company, Timu that is now competing 155 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: with Amazon. I believe I'm correct. Amazon is not allowed 156 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 5: to compete in China. I think I'm correct in that 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: Timu or whatever that company's called. They bought a ton 158 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 5: of Super Bowl ads. They're showing up in the country. 159 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 5: They're competing with Amazon. They're massive. Now, I don't like 160 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 5: the idea that American markets are open for Chinese big 161 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: business and China's markets are not open for American big business. 162 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 5: If you want to have a global competition to see 163 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 5: who is going to be the hegemonic power as it 164 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 5: pertains to online commerce or online social media companies, I 165 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 5: think we should have a mutuality, sort of a bilateral 166 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 5: treaty that allows full fledged competition. That's my biggest issue 167 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 5: because Twitter, for instance, or x whatever you want to 168 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 5: call it, isn't allowed to compete in China. And so 169 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: if we won't allow big tech companies in America or 170 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: Amazon or Google or whatever it is. I also buck, 171 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 5: and I may be a little bit different than some 172 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 5: people out here. I think we've got to break up 173 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: these big tech companies. I don't think that Google should 174 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: be able to own YouTube, for instance. I think that's 175 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: way too much power. You shouldn't be able to be 176 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 5: the number one search engine and the number one video 177 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 5: purveyor in the United States. I think that is monopolistic 178 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 5: in nature, and so I would want those companies broken 179 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 5: up in the same way we broke up like mod 180 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: pap Bill. 181 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: Back in the day. 182 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, and I just think that's 183 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: so much more important. But I think that a lot 184 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: of members of Congress they want that they get that 185 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: big tech money. There's a lot of influence to be 186 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: brought to bear here. I think TikTok is the easier 187 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: one for them to attack. It's a little bit like 188 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: they're protecting the incumbents by focusing so much on TikTok. 189 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: And I just say this, TikTok is incorporated in the US. 190 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: It has its base of operations here in Los Angeles, 191 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: and people are saying, well, under Chinese law, they could 192 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: be required to give user data over to the Chinese government. 193 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: That happens one time, and their two hundred and sixty 194 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: eight billion dollar company is effectively worth zero the next day. Right, 195 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: that there's some understanding here of the economics, I would hope, 196 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: and that it's not like, oh yeah, sorry, we just 197 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: shared your like personal data with the government. But like 198 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: that won't happen. That that's the end of the company, right, 199 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it would be like opening a cupcake factory 200 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: that's poisoning everybody. Like it's not gonna work. What happens 201 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: in the Senate? Where do we go from here? This 202 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: passed overwhelmingly in the House. 203 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: Are they just going to kill it in the Senate 204 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: or do you think this ever comes up for a vote. 205 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: I need to I need to dig deeper into it. 206 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm surprised you passed the House. To be honest, 207 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: I'm a surprised that passed the House. 208 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 5: My argument is sometimes they give gifts to each other 209 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 5: where everybody gets to wag their finger and say they're bad, 210 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 5: and then there are no consequences because it doesn't ever 211 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 5: come up for a vote in the Senate. I am 212 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 5: it passed overwhelmingly three sixty to fifty. And I'm you know, 213 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: roughly three sixty to fifty ish, right, I think it 214 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 5: was seventy but yeah close, yeah, three seventy to seven 215 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 5: or whatever. It was an overwhelming passage, but it may 216 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: not even come up for a vote in the Senate. 217 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 5: And I'm more troubled than TikTok Buck. We didn't hardly 218 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 5: mention this ken Buck, Republican congressman from Call. 219 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: You're finishing his term. I know, what is this? What 220 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: is this? 221 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 5: This is something that everybody needs to have on the horizon. 222 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: It's not crazy to think that Hakeem Jeffries could end 223 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 5: up the Speaker of the House, because I believe we're 224 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 5: now down after Santos and the and the revotes and 225 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 5: everything else. 226 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: By the way, is Menendez resigned? 227 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: Democrats no talk about innocent until proven guilty. Menendez, the 228 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: gold bar hoarder says, and now we're. 229 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: Down to two as a majority in the House. And 230 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 5: some of you out there don't know this, but if 231 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: Hakeem Jeffries ended up being speaker, they already have control 232 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 5: of the Senate. They could ram through some really awful stuff. 233 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 5: In October November December and a lame duck Congress, they 234 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 5: could end up with control of both sides of the 235 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 5: House and the Senate. 236 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: And I just think that this is sliding under the radar. 237 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 5: People are like, TikTok's bad, and we're like, hey, Hakeem 238 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 5: Jefferies is close to being the speaker. I'm way more 239 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: worried about Hakeep Jeffries being the speaker. 240 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: I also this may be a little bit of a 241 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: heavy dose of cynicism today. I think that the Congress 242 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: as it stands right now in general, is so inept 243 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: and disconnected from helping in on important issues, helping the 244 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: American people. When I hear that something is bipartisan, now 245 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: I distrust it. When I hear, like, for example, the 246 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: border bill. Oh, it was bipartisan in the Senate. That 247 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: was a horrible bill. The Republicans who went along with 248 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: it should be ashamed. The Democrats knew that they were 249 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: going to swindle us. 250 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying. 251 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: It used to be, Oh, it's bipartisan, that means we 252 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: can all trust it. No, when I hear that there's 253 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: something that's bipartisan in this kind of a way where 254 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: it's you know, a huge majority that goes through unless 255 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: it's something like naming a post office or something really minor. 256 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: If it's anything important, I think to myself, what are 257 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: we missing here? 258 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 5: What's going on? Look at the way they handle Ukraine funding. 259 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: I would prefer that that Congress do nothing. I'm so 260 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: dissatisfied with politicians in general that I wish they would 261 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 5: just get out of the way and do nothing. I 262 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 5: think they screw up everything far more often than they 263 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: make anything better. And I think the vast majority of 264 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 5: you out there are nodding your head along. 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They had an awesome 300 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: event on Title nine. Sage Steele, formerly of ESPN, was 301 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: there among other female athletes and they just did a 302 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 5: great job. And he's going to talk about that. Ironically, 303 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: it ties in with our weightlifting discussion that we got 304 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 5: into a little bit earlier today. 305 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: Buck, I wanted to hit you with some data that 306 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: came out. 307 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: We mentioned that Trump is up despite the State of 308 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 5: the Union taking place. I still maintain I know it's 309 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 5: never going to happen. Brian Kemp is probably the best 310 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 5: possible pick Trump could make his VP. I've been on 311 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: this for a while. I want to hit you. 312 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: He's not going to do it. 313 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: Picks get you in a lot of trouble there. Mister 314 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley would be a great VP. 315 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 316 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 5: Before she went crazy she would have been. I wanted 317 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 5: to hit you with the CBS poll on Brian Kemp 318 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: Buck he is sixty eight percent approval in the state 319 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 5: of Georgia, seventy percent approval for men, sixty seven percent 320 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: approval for women, seventy two percent approval for white voters, 321 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 5: sixty two percent approval for black voters. Moderates out there 322 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 5: like him. Seventy three Democrat voters have a fifty five 323 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 5: percent approval rating for Brian Kemp. Republicans eighty six percent approval, 324 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 5: Independent voter sixty two percent under forty five, seventy two 325 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 5: percent White college grads seventy one percent approval rating. That's 326 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 5: according to CBS, Brian Kemp right now is the most 327 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 5: popular governor in America. I believe who is a Republican. 328 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 5: Those numbers are off the charts, even if Trump doesn't 329 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 5: really consider him on the VP list. I think Brian 330 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 5: Kemp is so popular Buck George is off the board. 331 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 5: I want all of you to go vote. But I 332 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 5: think Georgia is gonna flip. 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You guys had a great 363 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 5: event yesterday. OutKick wrote about it. People can go read 364 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 5: about it. They are several different senators, you, several of 365 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 5: the women senators in the Republican Caucus. The Biden administration 366 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 5: is trying to rewrite Title nine so that if men 367 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 5: identify as women, you wouldn't be able to challenge their 368 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 5: gender and that would be protected under Title nine. Now 369 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 5: I'm simplifying that in some sense, but this is next 370 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 5: level bonkers for people who might not be following this, 371 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: What in the heck is going on? 372 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 6: Well, you know Title NAN. I grew up with Title NAN, 373 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 6: and I was coaching high school when it was implemented. 374 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 6: And the one thing that they have actually got right 375 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 6: up here in this clown show we call Washington d C. 376 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 6: Is Thailand. It gave the right for girls to have 377 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 6: the same as boys in terms of facilities and different 378 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 6: numbers and scholarships. 379 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 5: For people out there who wonder how this works, it 380 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: basically says guys and girls get similar numbers of athletic 381 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 5: scholarships college campuses if you're getting federal funds. So I 382 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: think most people out there are like, Okay, I kind 383 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: of agree with this, This makes sense. 384 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: What are they trying to do now? 385 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: One hundred and sixteen pages of new regulations Clay that 386 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 6: they've written to change Title nine, and basically it says that, 387 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 6: you know, we're not gonna give you any federal funding 388 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 6: at your schools if you did not allow young boys 389 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 6: or men to participate in girls' sports. It's absolutely ridiculous. 390 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 6: They've lost their damn mind, and we're going to fight 391 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 6: it to the end. I've never seen anything like this, 392 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 6: you know, you see the Democrats go to a certain 393 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 6: point on a lot of entities. This is absolutely over 394 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 6: the top. It's not gonna it's not gonna fly. You know, 395 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 6: President Trump obviously is he's all on top of this. 396 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 6: But this is this is an attack on the family. 397 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 6: It's a continued attack on gender, the nuclear family. Uh, 398 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 6: it's embarrassing. And you even hear Vladimir Putin talk about it, 399 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 6: you know, in interviews of what what's the what's the 400 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 6: West doing? They're they're they're allowing men to play women's sports. Uh, 401 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 6: you know, what is this? I mean, he's exactly right. 402 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: And Senator Truberville, this is coming straight from the White House. 403 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: Is that fair to say, who who is pushing this 404 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: so aggressively and trying to use title nind and title 405 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: mind funding as an ideological weapon to force people to 406 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: say that, you know, men can get pregnant and all 407 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: the rest of it. 408 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 6: M it's just an attack on our society number one, 409 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 6: you know, transition to the United States into something that's 410 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 6: never been uh. And again, what's the best way to 411 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 6: do that is go straight after the family and uh, 412 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 6: they're they're accomplishing a lot of things with that. It's 413 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 6: just amazing that, uh you all the championships now that 414 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 6: boys and men have won against women, women basically are 415 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 6: gonna be playing for second, third, and fourth place, no 416 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 6: chance to win because it's just different. It's a different mentality, 417 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 6: it's a different uh, bone structure, strength, all those things. 418 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 6: We know all that, but the bottom line is it's 419 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 6: just crazy and they're gonna push this to the end. 420 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 6: There's a lot of young people that are on Joe 421 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 6: Biden's uh staff, He didn't he probably doesn't know this 422 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 6: is happening, but they all make these decisions behind the 423 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 6: scenes and they just push it, push it, push it 424 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 6: until they UHI figure out whether it's gonna gonna go 425 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 6: through or not. We're having a lot of people fight 426 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 6: against it, but I'm telling you, it wears me to death. 427 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 6: We've got women that are in the Senate. I've had 428 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 6: a bill on the floor about this to stop this 429 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 6: uh nonsense, and women that have daughters and granddaughters vote 430 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 6: against me on this bill. It is absolutely asinine. 431 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 5: You coached college football for a long time. You coached 432 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 5: high school football. You mentioned your experience with Title nine Auburn, Texas, 433 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 5: tech Ole, Miss Cincinnati. You've coached a lot of different places. 434 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 5: A lot of people out there have watched you coach 435 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 5: over the years. Would you have ever believed because this 436 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 5: is something where I just look at it. I mean, 437 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 5: and I think if you had told me twenty years 438 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: ago that in twenty twenty four, we'd be sitting around 439 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 5: talking about it trying to become illegal under her American law. 440 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 5: For you to question whether a dude is a girl 441 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 5: and can become a women's champion, it's so crazy that 442 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 5: I don't think I would have even believed you in 443 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: two thousand and four. Heck, I wouldn't have believed you 444 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 5: in two thousand and eight. I wouldn't have believed you 445 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 5: in twenty twelve. Can you believe that this is actually 446 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 5: even debatable? As a guy who worked in sports and 447 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 5: worked in a college athletic department for as long as you. 448 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 6: Did, Well, I've been up here three years in this 449 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 6: clown show, and I've never seen the silliness, the absolute 450 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 6: silliness of what the Democrats want to push on the 451 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 6: American people. It is every day it's something else. It's 452 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: just it might be something small, then it works into 453 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 6: something big. But this is to a point here where 454 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 6: and again you said this earlier, they're trying to convince 455 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 6: people that men can have babies. Now that just goes 456 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: to show you how old the top these people are. 457 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 7: They are. 458 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 6: We've got a mental illness in this country. That is 459 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 6: I thought we had a handle on it about ten 460 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 6: years ago, but it's gotten worse now, it's gotten worse, 461 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 6: getting getting to a point where nobody even recognizes it. 462 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: And that's all this is. This is mental illness. It's 463 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 6: a mental illness that people want to do something that 464 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 6: they're not structurally built to do. And we have got 465 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 6: to stop this, and we'll stop it if we can 466 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 6: get control of you know, the White House and the Senate. 467 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 6: Next year and we'll get it back to some kind 468 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 6: of normal day in and out activities. But right now 469 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 6: I'm just just astonished that they even think that we 470 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 6: could do this. 471 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: Senator Tuberville, what are your Democrat colleagues in the Senate? 472 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: What do they really think on this the degree you 473 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: can speak to this. Do they really think that a 474 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: man should be able to play on the you know, 475 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: women's you know, women's soccer team, and do they make 476 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: this argument even in private? 477 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: Or they just. 478 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: Terrified of the woke left base that they have now 479 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: nurtured over many years, which is effectively insatiable and psychotic. 480 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 6: Mingo, you just hit it. You've got people up here 481 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 6: in the Democratic Party that are senators and congress people, 482 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 6: and they are so afraid of this woke mentality the 483 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 6: far far progressive left. They're afraid to get attacked because 484 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 6: they speak up. Now, one thing I'll give these people 485 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 6: on the far left and the progressive that's pushing this nonsense, they. 486 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: Don't back down. 487 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 6: They'll go after you. And I'm telling you, the Democrats 488 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 6: are scared of that side of the party. 489 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: So what do they do. 490 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 6: They just fall in line with them. You never hear 491 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 6: them say a word. It's get in the line like ducks, 492 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 6: you know, swimming around a pond. I mean, they never 493 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 6: say a word. They do exactly what they're told to do, 494 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 6: and they know that they can get reelected if they 495 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 6: do that. But they do not want controversy in their party, 496 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 6: and they're gonna be controversy. There's gonna be a lot 497 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 6: of controversy because we're going to continue to bring it up. 498 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 6: We're gonna continue to fight it, and we're going to 499 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 6: expose the Democrats that are not fighting with us against 500 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 6: this craziness. 501 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 5: I don't even think this is remotely political, and I 502 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 5: know you feel this way, Senator White, Black, Asian, Hispanic. 503 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: I think a lot of dads and moms out there 504 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: who aren't even politically engaged at all see this and 505 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 5: just think it's bonkers. I think it's going to have 506 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 5: an impact in twenty twenty four, I really do. But 507 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 5: I wanted to hit you with this last question. I'm 508 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 5: sure you have seen it. You came out of the 509 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 5: world of football, you're now in the what are your 510 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 5: thoughts on Aaron Rodgers. I'm sure you've seen this New 511 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: York Jets quarterback. There now is talk that he is 512 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 5: the leading contender. It's even moved beyond when we started 513 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 5: this show to potentially be the vice president running alongside 514 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: of RFK Junior. You're a football guy, Aaron Rodgers VP, 515 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: How would you break down that? 516 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 6: It's hard to break down. I heard that this morning 517 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 6: when I was reading. I get up about five in 518 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 6: the morning and read for about an hour, and I 519 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 6: saw this and I thought it was Babylon B or something. 520 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 6: You know, it was kind of a joke, and all 521 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 6: of a sudden, I see it on another channel. But 522 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 6: this can't be true. That's not gonna happen. 523 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: There's no way. 524 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 6: Now. There's a lot of far things that are far 525 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 6: fetched up here that could happen. And you know, I 526 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 6: like RFK Junior. I listened to him. He's got some 527 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 6: great points, he's fighting hard, but this is one step 528 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 6: too far, because whoever you pick as a vice president 529 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 6: is the next step to be in the president of 530 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 6: the United States, the leader of the pre world. And 531 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 6: so I don't I don't think that's gonna fly very well. 532 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 6: But it got a lot of tension, and that's what 533 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 6: a lot of people do up here to get to 534 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 6: get attention. 535 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: Senator Tubberville. Keep up the good fight, sir. 536 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 5: I know you had Nick Saban up on Capitol Hill 537 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 5: talking nil it's a crazy world where you got Alabama 538 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 5: and Auburn coming together, cats and dogs living together. 539 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 6: Right, I'm telling you it's gonna it's this nil is. 540 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 6: It's gonna be East or famine. I don't know which 541 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 6: way it's going, but it could make it greater. It's 542 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 6: gonna run it straight to the bottom. And I'm afraid 543 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 6: the latter is the one that's gonna happen because it 544 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 6: is really out of hand. 545 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: I'll see you soon. 546 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: Appreciate it, Senator, Thank you, Thank you that, Senator Tobby Tubberville, 547 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 5: Great State Alabama. I just drove through the whole state 548 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 5: of Alabama on my way down to the Panhandle here recently, 549 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 5: and you know what, Buck it is right now, March madness. 550 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: In fact, when I set down here at ninety six 551 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 5: three one oh two point five WFLA here in Panama City, Florida, 552 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 5: where I am, you know what. 553 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: They told me. They said, Hey, your show. 554 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: Is not going to be airing in full capacity today 555 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 5: because the Florida State Seminoles are playing in the ACC 556 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 5: Championship game and I'm not even sure if we're back on. 557 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 5: They're the Florida State seminole affiliate here where we air, 558 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 5: and they're playing at noon. I'm not sure if we're 559 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: back on even But this is the time of year 560 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: where if you are a sports fan, particularly if you 561 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: love basketball, there are games going all day long, every day. 562 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 5: I watched last night sitting back on the couch when 563 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 5: I got home with the boys, we watched Saint Mary's 564 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 5: play against Gonzaga, Great WCCC Championship Game, Big twelve, sec 565 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 5: ACC PAC twelve, Big Ten. All of the tournaments starting 566 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 5: today or tomorrow, they're gonna be a bevy of games 567 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 5: for you to be able to make picks on. Just 568 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 5: pick more or less tons of players. 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We're closing up shop today. 587 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here with us. As always, make sure 588 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: you go subscribe to the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton 589 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: Show podcast. Also become a VIP at clayanbuck dot com. 590 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: We are gonna have tomorrow Andrew Gutman joining us. He's 591 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: running for Congress and Palm Beach. I forget the district, 592 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: but it's Palm Beach, so you know it's nice. Not 593 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: a bad spotster, Yeah, nice place to hang out a 594 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: lot of our friends. You obviously, Rush had his estate 595 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: in Palm Beach, and a lot of our media buddies 596 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: have set up shop in the either on the island 597 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: of Palm Beach or in the vicinity thereof But Gutman's 598 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: going to talk to us about his fight against wokeness 599 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: in k through twelve schools, notably one of the most 600 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: elite girls schools in New York City, where I assume 601 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: he took his daughter out of the school because he 602 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: lives in Florida now, And also what he sees in 603 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: the battle against wokeness and how Florida is doing on it, 604 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: stuff like that. So that will be an interestant Congress, 605 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: and we're very much looking forward to it. We got 606 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: a bunch of VIP emails, we got some calls here 607 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: as well. We want to get to and let's dive 608 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: into some of these emails for a second. Here David 609 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: writes in how is Instagram or Google any different than TikTok? 610 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: Our government is spying on us constantly. I mean, David, 611 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: this is essentially one of my points, which is that 612 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: I am much more concerned about what the radical left 613 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: will do to me in this country that I am 614 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: about what China is going to do with my TikTok 615 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: scrolling habits. I just got to be honest with you 616 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: and all this stuff about the long term programming of 617 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: American children to be not good at math and like, 618 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: you know, interested in things that aren't going to advance 619 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: our technology and engineering. That's already happening, folks. That's a 620 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: bigger problem than just whether TikTok is showing our stuff, 621 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: showing our kids, you know, nonsense and garbage. We have 622 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: Bobby writing in this is for you, Clay Kemp, question 623 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: mark why all caps? He is not that popular Trump supporters. 624 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: That bleep has done nothing to help Trump, and most 625 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: of us would say he sat on his ass while 626 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: all this stuff with Fannie has taken place. Love you guys, 627 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: but this takes the cake, he says, the cake has 628 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: been taken. Clay with your keem comment, all I want to. 629 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 5: Do is win, and Kemp would one billion percent take 630 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 5: Georgia off the board, then you would only need to 631 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 5: win Arizona and one other state. And Trump is the 632 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 5: president of the United States. Now I don't think he's 633 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 5: gonna pick Kemp. But if you were making a strategic choice, 634 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 5: the number one thing that you would do is take 635 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 5: a state off the board. And Brian Kemp is hugely 636 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 5: popular in Georgia. Now, Buck, you mentioned it, and I 637 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 5: think it's true. Georgia has been the single most disappointing 638 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 5: state in the United States over the last six or 639 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 5: seven years. Lost three Senate races there. I worked hard 640 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 5: to try to get herschel in, but it didn't happen. 641 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 5: There should have never been a loss double loss in 642 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 5: the January runoffs of twenty twenty one. There is no 643 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 5: doubt that Georgia has been massively disappointing. I don't think 644 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 5: us off, I don't think Warnock should be there. The 645 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 5: state of Georgia has cost US trillions of dollars in 646 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: additional government spending. You can argue, I think fairly that 647 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 5: the reason we have inflation today at such an extent 648 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 5: that we do is because Georgia allowed Biden to have 649 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 5: a majority in the Senate and he passed through the 650 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 5: massive public spending bill that was totally unnecessary and took 651 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 5: us to nine percent interuries. But you have to win Georgia. 652 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 5: There is no pathway to a Republican winning in twenty 653 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 5: twenty four that doesn't include Georgia. KEMP would take Georgia 654 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 5: off the map. It would redistribute tons of money. Hundreds 655 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 5: of millions of dollars is going to be spent there 656 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 5: that could go elsewhere. Almost all of our VIP emails 657 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 5: in this batch are about the camp pick. So I 658 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 5: think we've I. 659 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: Think we've dealt with that. 660 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 2: I have not seen anyone say that they are fired 661 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: up about keVs a VP. 662 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 3: I'll just put it that way. 663 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: So let's take Brett in Louisiana and want to talk 664 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 2: RFK stuff. 665 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: What's up? Brett? 666 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 7: Hey, yeah, thanks claiming buck doing a good job for Rush. 667 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. 668 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 7: If r Kate would actually win a state, say with 669 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 7: sixteen electoral votes and neither Trump nor Biden hits two seventy, 670 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,479 Speaker 7: does it go to a runoff or does. 671 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 3: Nope, goes to the House of Thanks. 672 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 5: Sorry to cut you off, but the answer is it 673 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 5: would go to the House of Representatives. And each state 674 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 5: that would happen if we ended up in a it's 675 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 5: possible that we could end up in a two sixty 676 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 5: nine to two sixty nine tie. We almost did it 677 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty. You could adjust the math a little 678 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 5: bit if that occurs, then each state delegation gets a vote, 679 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 5: and that is how the tie is determined, and the 680 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 5: Republican Party would be favored there because the Republican Party 681 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 5: would have more states. Each congressman gets to vote. 682 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: If that report that RFK Junior has already asked his 683 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: VP and that VP candidate has accepted on the ticket. 684 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: If that's true, who's the VP candidate? If it's Aaron Rodgers, 685 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: that's unbelievable. 686 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 5: There's a report that Jesse Venturis's son says he hasn't 687 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 5: been asked. 688 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 3: If there is a report that it has an answer, mister. 689 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: Pick your shot. You got to pick your shot here, buddy, 690 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: which one are you going? 691 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 5: It hard to believe that he's picking Aaron Rodgers as 692 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 5: his running mate if he wants to be taken as 693 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 5: a super serious contestant contender, I'm not thinking it's Aaron Rodgers.