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Speaker 1: dot Com, the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to the Giants

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Speaker 1: Huddle Podcast. Today we continue our coordinator series. Is Bob

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Speaker 1: Poppa speaks to the three Giants coordinators. Today it's Giants

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and former NFL quarterback Mike Kafka. Yesterday it

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Speaker 1: was Thomas mcgahey, the Giants returning special teams coordinator. And

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Speaker 1: the name of the podcast is called Draft Season. All right, everybody,

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Speaker 1: let's get to our interview, our very own Bob Popa,

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Giants. How did you have to

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Speaker 1: talk to Giants new offensive coordinator Mike Kafka, and we're

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Speaker 1: pleased to be joined by the new offensive coordinator of

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants, Mike Kafka, who comes over from

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Welcome to the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: Coach Um, just talk a little bit about the transition

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Speaker 1: and getting this opportunity on coach deable staff. Well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: First off, it's an honor to be here. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: an amazing opportunity. And you know, me and Dave's go

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Speaker 1: this thing, it's been awesome, so much fun. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: that you crossed paths with coach table. That was what

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Speaker 1: That's that's right, So maybe probably close to ten years now,

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Speaker 1: transitioning into coaching and how that's helped you evolve into

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Speaker 1: Read as well as far as how he attacks coming

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Speaker 1: What would be uh, sort of because we any Giants

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