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Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's DJ Envy Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest

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Speaker 3: in the building.

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed you have Shine.

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Speaker 3: Welcome brother.

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be here, happy to have you

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Speaker 4: here in the morning. I feel great. Hello Brooklyn, Hello

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Speaker 4: New York City, and hello Blease.

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Speaker 5: Last time I saw you, I think it was the

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Speaker 5: first time I ever met you. I believe was ter

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Speaker 5: South Carolina. Yes, right, it was the grand opening the

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Speaker 5: International African American Museum.

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Speaker 1: We was in bourbons and bubbles together.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah right, brother Bacari Sellers Bakari, absolutely, my guy.

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Speaker 5: How you feeling, man, I'm feeling great.

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Speaker 4: You know, we got this documentary coming out on Monday

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Speaker 4: on Hulu, and I believe that, you know, the journey

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Speaker 4: that I've had a forty six years very inspirational, and

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Speaker 4: I believe that, you know, part of wanting to get

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Speaker 4: this story told now is that I have so much

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Speaker 4: more want to go and do. So the next phase

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Speaker 4: of my life is becoming the Prime Minister of Belize,

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Speaker 4: and that's going to be an entirely different story and

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Speaker 4: narrative as to how well I do as Prime Minister

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Speaker 4: to transform Belieze and to create greater connections with the

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Speaker 4: United States and all the different people I know around

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Speaker 4: the world and see that unfold. But you know, the

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Speaker 4: last forty six years have been cinematic. You know, we've

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Speaker 4: had tragedies, we've had triumphs, and I believe there's so

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Speaker 4: much to take away from that from somebody right now,

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Speaker 4: the young Shine that's out there, or whoever that's dealing

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Speaker 4: with a difficulty, you know, that's stuck, that's going through

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Speaker 4: the most devastating period of their lives, to understand the

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Speaker 4: resilience that lies within all of us. And so I

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Speaker 4: think it's a very timely story.

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Speaker 5: I've heard you say, I've heard you say that what

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Speaker 5: you've done since your incarceration is and has been in

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Speaker 5: the name of believe right, So it's kind of like

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Speaker 5: a two part question. I want to know what that means,

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Speaker 5: But I also want to know, you know, what were

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Speaker 5: you doing in the name of before incarceration.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: Before the younger Shan. You know, I wanted to be Shane.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to be a great musician. I wanted to,

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Speaker 4: you know, make my mark on the world through my music.

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Speaker 4: The quietest kept when I prayed. You know, I used

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Speaker 4: to always pray to be a billionaire. I pray because

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Speaker 4: I wanted to be a billionaire. I remember having this

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Speaker 4: discussion with my father, you know, telling him that you know,

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Speaker 4: what's the what's the what's your debt? You know, I

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Speaker 4: know some billionaire friends. It's back in like two thousand

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Speaker 4: and nine that you know, we'll cancel the debt of beliefs.

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Speaker 4: So I always thought about believes but more from you know,

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Speaker 4: being a great musician and then philanthropically I would be

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Speaker 4: able to give back. But I was thinking about, you know,

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Speaker 4: my art and how I can be successful. Whereas now

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Speaker 4: my success is becoming a politician, becoming the Prime Minister

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Speaker 4: in order to create policies, to create a society for beliezings.

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Speaker 4: That's everything I do. My success is not a documentary.

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Speaker 4: My success is not investments. It's not anything to do

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Speaker 4: with personal gain. My personal gain is how do I

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Speaker 4: make housing a reality as a human right for beliezings

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Speaker 4: that right now can't afford it. How do I make

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Speaker 4: you know, MSM a capital available for people who want

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Speaker 4: to do startups? How do I make sure that people

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Speaker 4: you have students and beliefs that can't afford a tertiary

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Speaker 4: education when they graduate high school and they're brilliant, but

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Speaker 4: right now, the facilities that they get for a loan

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Speaker 4: they have to pay immediately, Whereas if they were able

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Speaker 4: to pay those facilities after they got their degrees and employment,

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Speaker 4: that will make a world of a difference. That'll help

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Speaker 4: grow economy because the more skilled our people are, the

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Speaker 4: more they can contribute to the GDP, and GDP is

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Speaker 4: everything because that pays the taxes so that we can

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Speaker 4: guarantee the student debth loans, we can transform the public

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Speaker 4: what I live for right now, and that's that's Belieze.

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Speaker 4: And even here talking about Belieze when I first traveled

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Speaker 4: to believes. And you know, even if I wasn't in

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Speaker 4: a political space, I'd still be doing whatever I could

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Speaker 4: my life period, it's all dedicated to believes.

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Speaker 2: I want to I want to go back if you

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Speaker 2: don't mind for for shine. So your mother came here

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Speaker 3: Guys moved to Brooklyn, right, and you fell in love

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Speaker 3: with music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about.

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Speaker 2: When you started rapping and how you ran into you know,

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Speaker 2: Rest in Peace, Clark Catt and how that, how that

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Speaker 2: kind of you know, accumulated your your whole rap career

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Speaker 2: and why you wanted to become a rapper.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, my Pops was a DJ. You know,

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Speaker 4: my Pops was a DJ. We always that's the only

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Speaker 4: thing I have over him because obviously, you know, he

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Speaker 4: parliamentarian for over thirty years, and I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: But he was a DJ, So you know, being a

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Speaker 4: musician was innate. It was my DNA, my genetics, and

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Speaker 4: you know I listened to a lot of dance all

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Speaker 4: music obviously being from Belize, Uh, you know, heavily influenced

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Speaker 4: by you know, Shaba Ranks. That's what they used to

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Speaker 4: call me. My name used to be Shaba because I

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Speaker 1: Did you feel intilted when they first started calling you?

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Speaker 4: Nah? It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a compliment because I look, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, No, no, no, remember when Marlon Wayne did mister.

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Speaker 4: We gotta respect that African bro. That's right, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know Melani his propet. But you know, we gotta

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Speaker 4: respect the license. Guys. I'm yeah watching but so so yeah.

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Speaker 4: So music was always a part of the household. My

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Speaker 4: moms loved music. You know, we were poor, you know,

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Speaker 4: And I got to thank my uncle's my uncle Newton.

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Speaker 4: He's in He was in Charston when I met you, uh,

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Speaker 4: and you know, so he was a big munic music.

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Speaker 4: And so I remember I came to America in eighty eight.

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Speaker 4: eight that was big Daddy came. Ain't no half stepping,

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Speaker 4: like we'd tell the guys here, bust a rap for

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Speaker 4: us and entertain us. And so I wasn't in that

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Speaker 4: and I made a promise to my moms that i'd

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Speaker 4: That's when Only Built for Cuba Lynx came out and

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Speaker 4: Reasonable Doubt and Volume one and Hard Knock Life, all

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Speaker 4: these great albums that you know, molded in shape, you know,

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Speaker 4: DJ Envy. I remember going to Hot ninety seven doing

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Speaker 4: Don't ever, don't ever come back to the barber shop

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Speaker 4: rapping that nonsense. But the barbers loved me and that's

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Speaker 4: how you know. That also built my confidence. So there

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Speaker 4: one of the good things about this documentary. It shows

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Speaker 4: you how you can manifest, you know, your greatness manifest,

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Speaker 4: where you're going to will yourself into existence in whatever

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Speaker 4: Austin and it's a dangerous thing to do to people

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Speaker 4: in Brooklyn to run up on somebody and be like,

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Speaker 4: you're in a music industry. And I ran upon him

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Speaker 4: And he said yeah, And I just started spitting for

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Speaker 4: managing Nicki Minaj's future Keisha Kole. And that's how it

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Speaker 4: all came together. You know, they call Mark Pitts and

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Speaker 4: and that was in like maybe August. I dropped out

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Speaker 4: of New York Tech, got my first check from from

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Speaker 4: down Pooh. I taught ten thousand dollars, like a million dollars,

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Speaker 4: So that was my first check.

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Speaker 2: Then why did you sign with bad Because at the time,

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Speaker 2: you know, every every label wanted to sign you. Everybody

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Speaker 2: offered you money, Death Jam Loud, bad Boy, I think

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Speaker 2: they said even Rockefeller. They all offered you money, but

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Speaker 4: You know. So despite what he's going through and despite

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's always come up in your past

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Speaker 4: result of that parademic shift and the result of my

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00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 4: lack of focus.

433
00:22:59,760 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: You know.

434
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 4: So I was running around driving the six hundred, driving

435
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 4: the road, Platinum ROLLI, platinum ap and living this life.

436
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: But I wasn't putting in the work. I wasn't disciplined,

437
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 4: I wasn't focused, and so the music that would get

438
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: leaked sounded like trash, and so people were like, you know,

439
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: come on, you know, it's trash.

440
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: So the rule that you were forced to sign where

441
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: bad boy wasn't true.

442
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: That was on your decision.

443
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,239
Speaker 4: Tell you, I was in Saint Regis Hotel, listen, I was.

444
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: Everybody wanted to sign me. I left Puff's mansion. Deft

445
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 4: chair put me in the Peninsula Hotel and I was there.

446
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 4: We got on the plane, flew back in the same

447
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: regions for a couple of weeks waiting for the dealer

448
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 4: Simon and going to John McNally, you know, like every

449
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 4: week to whatever I wanted, you know, tens of thousands

450
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 4: of dollars every week waiting to sign the deal. So yeah,

451
00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: I again, Kobe couldn't come into the league. Kobe was

452
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 4: on the bench when he came into the league, right,

453
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 4: people don't talk about that. And Kobe had Phil Jackson,

454
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 4: you know, and that's how Kobe became Kobe. So for me,

455
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready to be, you know, a coach player,

456
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: and something instinctively in me told me that I wouldn't

457
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: have gotten that tutelage at death cham in my opinion,

458
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 4: and again, say what you want about Puff, but the

459
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: things that he's accomplished in music and entertainment, space and

460
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 4: in his entrepreneurship. You know, it'll be it'll live forever, right,

461
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 4: and so to get that information from the source itself.

462
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 4: And interestingly enough, even though that's why I came EGO

463
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 4: got the best of me when I when I got

464
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 4: that million dollars because I thought I was puffed. So

465
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: so I'm telling you there's there's stories I can't say who,

466
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 4: but there's stories like of his like main girl that

467
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: you know, I was dealing with because I thought, you know,

468
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: I was that guy. You know, I really thought it

469
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: was about me at the time. Yeah, in ninety eight,

470
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 4: like I got on, I got on you you know, No,

471
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 4: not her. I'm just saying, OK, all right, but not her.

472
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 4: But at the time I got on in ninety eight,

473
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: and instead of getting in the studio and getting the information,

474
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: I was living the life. And so that caused a

475
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: strain between him and I because he was like, like,

476
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 4: who does this kid think he is? And there's even

477
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 4: situations like with with Mace. Mace was dating the girl,

478
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 4: you know, and I started dating the girl, and that

479
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 4: caused like a big thing we had to have like

480
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 4: a family meeting, and it was like, yo, what you're doing,

481
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 4: you know, like Kobe coming to the Lakers and you

482
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 4: know you want to go after Shacks joint, Like you

483
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 4: can't do that. And that's what I was on for

484
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: night the eight. I wasn't focused. And it wasn't until

485
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: ninety nine after that same girl, this is the girl

486
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 4: that was also seeing Mace. She's you know, she's selling

487
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 4: millions of records. She had like the biggest record that year.

488
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: And and she said, she said, she's not listen, it's

489
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: a documentary. Is in the document It's in the documentary.

490
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 4: Cat can sense who it is. So and we had

491
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: an argument and she said, Yo, you're nobody.

492
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: That's you.

493
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, you're nobody. You ain't selling one record. You

494
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: think you style and you think you're that, you're nothing,

495
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: you haven't sold the record. And that hit me like

496
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 4: the hand of God just you know, slapped me back

497
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: into reality because she was she was telling the truth,

498
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 4: like what I wasn't there to date you know, R

499
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 4: and B divas and pop d is and you know, look, fly,

500
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: I was there to make hit records and I wasn't

501
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: doing that. And that shook me up. And I was like, yo,

502
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: a puff at all? Right? You know I carry your bags.

503
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 4: You know what, let's let's get in the studio. And

504
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: that's what we did. So the entire ninety nine, you know,

505
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: I was in the gym, I was in the studio,

506
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: and that's how we made Bad Boy because we were

507
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: we were in the Hamptons.

508
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: The song bad Boy Guys, the song back bad Boy

509
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: by the.

510
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: Song we We we were in the Hamptons and he

511
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: gave me the easy p beat and boom boom but

512
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 4: boom boom, boom boom, and he's like, yo, if you

513
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: could kill this, you're gone. And he's like, who's the

514
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 4: guy that goes WHOA? And I'm like, Baron Toon Levy.

515
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, we're gonna put him on there. Write

516
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 4: the second verse, the second verse, Puff's verse, things dragging

517
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 4: on the floor because you know he's the mink guy,

518
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: the fir guy.

519
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: And yeah.

520
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: So so I have no regrets about signing to Bad Boy.

521
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 4: I got everything that I came for. Didn't expect that

522
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 4: I get a ten year sentence out of it.

523
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 5: But it feels like back then, at least to me anyway,

524
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: if it's lootening at you talk, it felt like it

525
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 5: was more important to prove how screeched you were like

526
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: walking up on Jay and asking j why you still

527
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 5: got your gun? Getting in the shootouts with Junior Mafia.

528
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 5: I don't know, it didn't feel like you were Anybody

529
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 5: was focused on rap back then. It was by like

530
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: who's can be the toughest.

531
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not sure if it was a competition to

532
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 4: be tough or it was a lack of the ability

533
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: to transition. You can't just go from being on the

534
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: street getting your getting shot at getting shot, watching your

535
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: friends die, to just this three sixty adjustment, you know,

536
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: the healthy, stable human being I am now. It took

537
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: me forty six years to get here, you know, going

538
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: from a young kid, you know, fighting for survival that's

539
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: all you know. So you know, that's just the mindset

540
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: that you had. So like you know, when I met Jay,

541
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: I was literally a year before that I almost got killed.

542
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: So that's just the state of mind. You know, whatever

543
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: happened at the studio, that's just the state of mind.

544
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: Like you know, it's very difficult to transition out of

545
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 4: that state of mind. So for me, it was never

546
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: a competition. I wanted to get away from that. I

547
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: didn't want to go back to that.

548
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 5: So why did you care if he had his gun

549
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 5: on Like I'm really stuck on that, Like why did

550
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: you care?

551
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: It was a it was a figurative thing more than

552
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: a literal thing about you. But that's but actually that's

553
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 4: how we used to do it back then. Like guys

554
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: in the music were real, Like Jay's was a real

555
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: like Kingpin, like it was a real streak, you know, hustler,

556
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: So he might have had his his weapon on him,

557
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: like that was a reality. Not not everybody was making

558
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 4: up their There were some guys that actually lived at

559
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: and so it wasn't what you were trying to be.

560
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: That's what you were. Like when I first when I

561
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 4: first moved, you know, to there was an apartment that

562
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: Didy was living on Park Avenue. He had an apartment

563
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: on on thirty sixth Street, and I was at that apartment.

564
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: You know, I had a shotgun in an apartment with

565
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: me because that's that's where I came from. You know,

566
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: Like these raps are not just things that people make up.

567
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: You know, I almost got killed. Now I'm getting I

568
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: just got a million dollars. You know, maybe you know

569
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: the people that try to kill me in Brooklyn, you know,

570
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: might try to find where I'm at, and you have

571
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 4: forty six year old shine. Of course, now you say,

572
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: in hindsight, why would you do that? Why would you

573
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 4: jeopardize you know, your career, Why it's difficult to make

574
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: the transition?

575
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: I get it.

576
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 5: I always wanted to. Why was it so hard for

577
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 5: you to get your flow back after you got out

578
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 5: of prison? I think flowed in the doc a little

579
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: bit too.

580
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know I came out with the

581
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: wrong energy. You know, I came out I was attacking

582
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 4: Rick Ross, I was attacking fifty. I was attacking Drake

583
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: and understandable. No what I'm telling you. I think that

584
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: was again another slap from the hand of God, because

585
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: it's like you just did ten joints and the energy

586
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: you're coming with its dangerous, right, that's not the energy

587
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: that you're supposed to be putting out there in the universe. Again,

588
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: lack of focus, similar to when I first did the deal.

589
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 4: Just the lack of focus. And so I believe you

590
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 4: know that was the most high just saying, come on, man,

591
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: you ain't learned nothing Like let me let me put

592
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: you on pause for a minute so that you could

593
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: figure it out. Because the direction you're going, No, that's

594
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: not what we that's not what we sat up for

595
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: ten years for. So I think that was a colossal

596
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: mistake to come out and focus on other people. Which

597
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: is one of the greatest things that I've been able

598
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: to do, is to focus on myself and take responsibility

599
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: for the things that I've done, take accountability for my

600
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: life and where I want to go. But I think

601
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: that's what's happened. That's because I got it back. But

602
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: now I'm not interested in rapping. But you know, I

603
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: use my voice now for the people who believes in

604
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: the House of Representatives, because when I'm writing my speeches,

605
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: it's similar to writing my rhymes, and the same way

606
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: my rhymes were based on what I actually experienced, what

607
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: I actually lived and saw, it's the same thing I

608
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: do in the House of Representatives. Now I go when

609
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: I meet people, I send in their homes, I eat

610
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 4: food out of their pots, and I listen to the

611
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: things that are impacting them. And when I go in

612
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: the house, that's what I talk about. I'm not just

613
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: attacking the government to attack them. I'm actually reporting live

614
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: from the streets of Mesopotamia and other parts of beliefs.

615
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: I always wanted to know when you need to come

616
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: out now out. You know, it was always said that

617
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Puff hisself didn't get on the stand and snitche but

618
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: witnesses he put on the stand cleared him and pointed

619
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: at you.

620
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: Absolutely not that they didn't just clear him. They lied

621
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: because even today, I'm still not saying anything to get

622
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: him in trouble.

623
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: Right, you said you didn't see the shooter.

624
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: Right, the victim says Puff shot her. So my thing

625
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: is and I'm still saying here and now, and I've

626
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: said in interviews, if he did shoot her, he was

627
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: defending himself. It wasn't intentional because people were trying to

628
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: kill us that night.

629
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: Now, the person that that's a fact that y'all alleged

630
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: got into the argument with. They were saying that the

631
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: issue was with you and him. Maybe you were signed

632
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: to him before all the money.

633
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: That was a story.

634
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what type of drugs Flex is on

635
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: or what type of mental breakdown he's having, but that

636
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: is absolutely untrue. This is the first time you've ever

637
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: heard anybody say such ridiculous, outrageous statements. So Nas is

638
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: lying when Nad said, you know, I don't like the

639
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 4: way Diddy did Shine with different lawyers. Everybody's lying on

640
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 4: Diddy now, like, come on, the first Double Excel cover

641
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: death before this, honor everything that I'm saying now I've

642
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 4: been saying. It doesn't mean that I didn't forgive Diddy

643
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: and move on. But when Little Rod, you know, puts

644
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: a suit out saying that Diddy is bragging about shooting

645
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: up the club and making Shine take the rap, that

646
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 4: changes things right, And then you're looking at it like, okay, well,

647
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: you know, is he just saying that? Then the guy

648
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: that Little Rod said was carrying the drugs for Diddy

649
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: on the planes, they get them at the hangar and

650
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 4: the guy got the drugs on the plane and gets

651
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 4: arrested by the fads. So then you're like, okay, well,

652
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: if he wasn't lying about that, then you know, maybe

653
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: he is telling the truth.

654
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: How do you forgive that?

655
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 5: Though?

656
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: Sitting ten years in the box knowing you know that

657
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: Diddy's holding with bad Boy and all the artists will

658
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: say that is it was all about family, right, That's

659
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: what it was sold on.

660
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 3: It was family.

661
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: We all are family, we're all together, we all listen

662
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: in this together. But when it hit the fan, it

663
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: was no family. It was every man for himself. Absolutely,

664
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: you get out and you forgive him, and you know, no.

665
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 4: I didn't forgive him right away. If you notice, when

666
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: I got out, I was attacking him too. It was

667
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 4: one of the most erroneous strategic moves that I made,

668
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: because I was fighting with Diddy, I was fighting with fifty,

669
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: I was fighting with Drake, fighting with Rick Ross like

670
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: I was literally, I was like Samson, you know, pushing

671
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: the pillars to collapse on me. So there wasn't an

672
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 4: instant forgiveness I got out in two thousand and nine.

673
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: We didn't There wasn't an attempt at reconciliation until twenty

674
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: twelve when I went to Paris to meet him, and

675
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: that was the first attempt at forgiveness. But I was

676
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: still in the place of he owes me, he owes

677
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: me his life, he owes me. He's a billionaire. If

678
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 4: it wasn't for me, he wouldn't have been a billionaire.

679
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: If I would have cooperated with the district attorney, he'd

680
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: have went to jail, and heaven knows what would have

681
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: happened to his career. Right, So, you know, that's worth

682
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: at least a couple million dollars out of the billion

683
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: that you're worth. And interestingly enough, you know, one of

684
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: the things that Cassie alleges in her lawsuit is that

685
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: when you know he would assault her, then he would

686
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: you know, take on shopping spreeds. And so I saw

687
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: that in Paris he spent like a half a million dollars,

688
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: like in one day shopping for her. And then you know,

689
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: after I left, he was then that's twenty twelve.

690
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: Oh, twenty twelve, okay, okay, yeah.

691
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: Twenty twelve. That's what I'm saying. That was the first

692
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 4: attempt at reconciliation. I got out in two thousand and nine,

693
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: and then it took a couple of years before I said,

694
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: you know, we reach out. I was actually living in

695
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 4: Israel at the time, and but I felt he owed

696
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: me something. And so it's like, you know, he probably

697
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: gave me like fifty racks, and I'm like, you know,

698
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: you can't be serious, Like that's ten years fifty racks.

699
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: Like that whole ten years you were in jail, he

700
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: didn't reach out to you at all.

701
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 4: He came to see me once, and I think I

702
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: tried to spin in his face and right because Alance

703
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: so when he didn't come back, I didn't want I

704
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: didn't want him to come back. I didn't even want

705
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 4: to come see me. I didn't even know he was

706
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: coming to see me. They just brought me down in

707
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: the lawyer's office.

708
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: And you know, so you did an angry bit. I was.

709
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: I really, you know, my life was destroyed, devastated, and

710
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 4: I was figuring out how to continue living, buried alive,

711
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: and I didn't want anything to do with him. And yeah,

712
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: it was a lot of hurt and a lot of

713
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: pain in that. But I wasn't just sitting there. I'm angry.

714
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 4: I sat there, I got into my spirituality, got into

715
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: my Judaism. You know, I did the deal with death Jam,

716
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 4: you know, a couple million, a couple million dollars put

717
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: out god Father, buried a live album album I love,

718
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 4: and you know, continue living every day to get out.

719
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know I got a if you were

720
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 5: because they always said that you and the brother Scar

721
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 5: God blessed it Dad.

722
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: They said y'all were.

723
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 5: Cool before you even met, did so exactly, So why

724
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 5: didn't you side with him that night?

725
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: No? But it doesn't work like that, you know, doesn't

726
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: work like that, like literally it was scared Nino, the

727
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 4: whole crew of Brooklyn kids from Saint John to Washington

728
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: app Yeah, but I know, I know, I know, you know,

729
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: I know those guys and everything was all good, like

730
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: we embraced. Everything was good. But but you know, Diddy's

731
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: my vault us like didd he's you know, he's we

732
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 4: remember ninety nine. We spent the entire ninety nine making

733
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 4: this record. It's about to happen, be about to shoot

734
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: the Bad Boys video like you know, and we developed

735
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: that bond, you know, making the record, and I'm not

736
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 4: gonna leave his side and be like, oh man, you're

737
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: on your own. I'm not gonna do that.

738
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: Well, Puff was able to get Scar to help his case,

739
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 5: but not yours.

740
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: Now, I don't scared somebody put him out.

741
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: But I don't have that hippie died at Gumbo.

742
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 4: Yeah I don't. I don't remember. I don't think Scar

743
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 4: helped the case. If I remember, I think Scar hurt

744
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: the case. Who helped Diddy and hurt me with Sharise Myers.

745
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 4: And again, if you go back to my interviews, I

746
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: said all this, I've been saying all this. It's just

747
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: the power of Diddy. The power of his celebrity is

748
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 4: his iconic status was just so loud and so nobody

749
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 4: cared to listen. There was like, yo, you know you're

750
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: the mad rapper. You know whatever. I got business going

751
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: on with him. But again, now I's wasn't lying when

752
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: he said I don't like the way did he did

753
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: shine with different lawyers? He was telling the truth.

754
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever thought about suing any of the lawyers?

755
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: I thought about sueing did he?

756
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: You know?

757
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: But like I said, I'm focused on Belieze. I'm focused

758
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: on becoming the next Prime Minister of Belize. And I'm

759
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: really again, I can't come up here and not talk

760
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: about my life in totality.

761
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's actually the beautiful redemption.

762
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think about you saying that you almost got

763
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: killed back in the day. I think about I heard

764
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: about a car accident that that that you was in.

765
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 5: One of your peoples paralyzed and one got one got killed. Yeah, yeah,

766
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 5: I just And then I think about that that happened

767
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 5: like a couple of weeks before the shooting, right, No.

768
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that happened happened in ninety eight. Yeah, that

769
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: happened as soon as I got my deal. I got

770
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: the six hundred. Wow, and you know, the road was slippery.

771
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: We're actually on the way to the party. And I

772
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 4: was because I still go on the block and we're

773
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: going on the block. After this, I always go see

774
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: my cousin Ron, do you know, It's like it was

775
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: one of my childhood heroes on eighteenth in church, and

776
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: so you know, I would always come on the block

777
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 4: and take everybody to go party and get right. And yeah,

778
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 4: so it's been a lot of tragedy.

779
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: In that situation too, Yeah, Scar.

780
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, but yeah, there's been a lot of tragedy,

781
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: but there's also been triumph. There's also been the ability

782
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 4: to be resilient. And you know, you can't tell the

783
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: story of trumpf you can't tell the Prime minister story,

784
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: can't tell any of those great things without talking about

785
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 4: the obstacles, you know. But I lost my train of thought.

786
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: But the when you asked whether Scar helped, and I

787
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: was telling about Sharise Myers. So Sharisse Myres was a

788
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: security guard and I begged Puff not to call her

789
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 4: as a witness because, as I'm saying now, all these

790
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: years later, despite Puff being in federal custody, I'm still

791
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: not saying that he did anything wrong. I'm saying, even

792
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: if he did shoot, he was defending himself because we

793
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: were all defending ourselves. So why would it have been

794
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: so difficult for him to call witnesses that were saying

795
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: the same thing, Because that's the truth. I wasn't in

796
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: there being belligerent and acting in a depraved want because

797
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: that's what I got convicted of assault for depravedness, and

798
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: that was due to him, that was the most damaging witness.

799
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: And we begged him, wolf begged him, all of us

800
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: begged them, you know, please don't call this witness. This

801
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: witness is gonna bury me. And he called the witness.

802
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: So why why wouldn't you look at everybody?

803
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: Because you wanted to say to himself the strategy is

804
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: somebody got to go to jail and it ain't gonna

805
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: be ditty, so you gotta be shy. And and and

806
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: the plea agreement that the DA was given because the

807
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: DA wanted me to testify against uh Diddy, and he

808
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: called me in for what they call him a profer,

809
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: so in the profert they wanted me to come in

810
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: there and be like yo, he had the gun, he

811
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: passed me the gun he started shooting. It was it

812
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 4: was him, and I refused to do that, and so

813
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: the DA was like, okay, I give you a plead

814
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: deal for thirteen years. So so yeah, so that's what happened.

815
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 5: Have you ever spoken to the woman who was shot

816
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: in the face, and because she's been speaking.

817
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: Up, No, I haven't spoken to her.

818
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: You know.

819
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: I I apologize and I regret. I think I did

820
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: a was it Kojack? What's what's the name of the brother?

821
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 4: Reggio says he was Pece. I had done a I

822
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: had done an interview with him, and I extended, you know,

823
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 4: sorrow that she got hurt. And I said it in

824
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 4: interviews that I've done over the last couple of days

825
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: when they asked do I have any regrets. I don't

826
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: regret defending myself, but I regret that people are hurt.

827
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: And so I said that as far as you know,

828
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 4: she's concerned.

829
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: She said it was Diddy.

830
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, she said Diddy shot her. Yeah, And but we

831
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: don't know because the bullet fragments were never extracted from

832
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 4: any of the victims. Uh. But definitely there were three

833
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: guns fired, mine and two other guns. Uh. And you know,

834
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: she she said what she said actually immediately to the doctor.

835
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: You know, she said, I just got shot by Diddy.

836
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: But then when she got on the stand, Uh, she

837
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 4: was trying to blame the both of us without blaming

838
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 4: the both of us. And now she maintains that it

839
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: was Diddy got paid off. You know, I can't speculate.

840
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I don't know what happened.

841
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 4: I just know that, you know, it's tragic. But you know,

842
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 4: like I said, we pivot, we move forward, and that's

843
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: what I did in the second reconciliation with Diddy, when

844
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: we reconcile again in like twenty twenty or twenty nineteen.

845
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 4: And so that forgiveness was a different forgiveness because I

846
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 4: was at a different space.

847
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: That's when you perform.

848
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: No, I performed in twenty twenty two. But I'm just

849
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: telling you how we got to that, because there's a

850
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: gap from twenty twelve to twenty twenty.

851
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 5: But before before we get to that, you have you

852
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 5: and Jalo ever had a combo about that night?

853
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? Never, okay, Yeah, I've never seen her since since

854
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 4: that night. But the second forgiveness, that was a forgiveness

855
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 4: of power and strump for my part, because that forgiveness

856
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 4: came with no price tag. That was a strategic forgiveness.

857
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: And I'm about to be, you know, an elected official.

858
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 4: I wasn't close to being the Prime Minister then, but

859
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: I was going to the House presentatives and my mind was

860
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 4: just in a different space and so everything was just,

861
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: you know, no baggage, nothing that would, you know, keep

862
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: me from soaring to the heights that I wanted to sew.

863
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: And I already understood who he was and it was like,

864
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 4: you know what, it's just clean with everybody. And even

865
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: if you saw different interviews that I've done, whether it

866
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: be Rick Ross or or Fitty, all the people that

867
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: I've ever attacked, you know, I've expressed contrition for that.

868
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 4: I was just in a different space and getting in

869
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: that space of wanting to help Belize. You know, I

870
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: don't want to fight with anybody because I'm fighting for Belize.

871
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: So this is not about me anymore. This is not

872
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: about any grievances that I have with anyone. It's like,

873
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: even with your elections, I congratulated President elect Trump and

874
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 4: I congratulated Vice President Harris because it's about Belize. I'm

875
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat, and that's how

876
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: that forgiveness came about because I knew I would never

877
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: get anything from him, but it wasn't about getting anything

878
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 4: from him. And then when he came and he asked

879
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: me to perform at the Lifetime Achievement BT Awards, you know,

880
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 4: to me, that was a moment of power because now

881
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: he was begging me to do something because I didn't

882
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: want to perform. I'm not a rapper, right. I was insulted,

883
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: to be honest, because I'm an elected official and I'm

884
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: on my way to try to be the Prime Minister

885
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: of Belize. And it's confusing to my electorate because you know,

886
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: they want a serious person that's dealing with serious policies

887
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 4: that are going to solve the problems in their lives.

888
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 4: They're thinking about, you know, the GDP, they're thinking about,

889
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: poverty alleviation, housing is a human rights, citizen security, food security,

890
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: you know, that's what they're thinking about. And they don't

891
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 4: want a guy on stage, you know, performing they want

892
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: a prime minister that's going to come and give them hope.

893
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: And I was very uneasy about that, but he was like, no,

894
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 4: you know, you got to do it for the legacy,

895
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: and you got to do it for Belize. You know,

896
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: this is going to be a great opportunity to promote Belieze.

897
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 4: And that's when he got me. And I was like,

898
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: all right, well, you know, the flag got to come

899
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: down when I'm performing and everything got to be believe

900
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: And I have no regrets about that because it worked.

901
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: It's the biggest flag ever on stage, the first time

902
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: that's ever happened for Belize. And he, you know, he

903
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 4: was chatting Belize and I changed up the first verse,

904
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: you know, just to say Belieze believee. And so that

905
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: was great for Belize. And I got nothing for that

906
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: other than promoting Belieze. So that wasn't about him. That

907
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: was that wasn't even about me. That was about Believes.

908
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: But if it was about me, it was a moment

909
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 4: of power. Was because he needed me.

910
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: There was a rumor that he paid you to perform

911
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: that night.

912
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely not not a dollar, nothing, because.

913
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 2: I think there was a room that he paid you,

914
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: and there was a rumor that he paid Mace and

915
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: Mason shot. But that was the rumor that paid I

916
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: think a hundred thousand dollars. That that's what and.

917
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: I could have used that towards my campaign.

918
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: Have you really moved on from the Diddy situation?

919
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 5: Because I saw you saying on Tammer Hall that you

920
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 5: know you healed from it, But then you also say

921
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 5: he destroyed your life, and it feels like after he

922
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 5: went to prison you started kicking his back in.

923
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: I guess it feels like that.

924
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: But we just went through prison. But yet, no, we just.

925
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: Went through a chronology of all the things that I'm

926
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 4: saying now been saying. Number one, number two, you can't

927
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 4: delete the Little Rod lawsuit and those accusations of him

928
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 4: bragging about shooting up the club and making me go

929
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 4: to jail.

930
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: So after you perform with him, once you hear those rumors.

931
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: Of course it.

932
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you gotta do the chronology.

933
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: It's not happening in the orbit of chaos, right, you

934
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 4: got to do that. That's legit that he made those accusations.

935
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 4: Then the guy gets caught with a fanny pack at

936
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: Tita or wherever they were, and so that makes you say, okay, well,

937
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: what else is Little Rod, who produced the love album?

938
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: What else is he telling the truth about? So that

939
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 4: makes you look at him crazy. Then the video comes

940
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: out with Cassie, so then another lies is exposed and.

941
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: Only a few people who know the truth about that night.

942
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 4: Yeah.

943
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 5: Right, So if you know the truth and then you

944
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 5: hear Rod say something like that, you're like, oh, word, exactly,

945
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 5: you're out here bragging about it exactly.

946
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Okay, exactly exactly.

947
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: But even even still, I say here what I've said

948
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: in all my interviews, but that doesn't make the headlines

949
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 4: when they asked, how do you feel? I would not

950
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: wish incarceration on my worst enemy. I take no joy

951
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 4: and no satisfaction in what is happening to Ditty, And

952
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: I pray for the victims, especially Cassie, that they get

953
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: closure and they heal. And I pray for Ditty that

954
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 4: he's able to figure out why he is where he is,

955
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 4: because sometimes the same way the hand of God slapped

956
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 4: me a few times, the hand of God comes down

957
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: on you, and I reformed, I rehabilitated. So I'm not

958
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 4: going to condemn Ditty in perpetuity. It's time for him

959
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 4: to find his rehabilitation and his reformation and learned the

960
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: lesson that he needs to learn. And I pray for

961
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: him and wish him well. So nothing that I'm saying.

962
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: I'm saying from a place of hurt and hate. I'm

963
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: saying from a place of love and healing and moving on.

964
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: But the truth is the truth. You know, when your

965
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: brother does something wrong, you gotta tell him, well, you're

966
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 4: not a good brother. No.

967
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 5: He never so he never apologized. He never said, yo, man,

968
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 5: thank you, here's a bag something.

969
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: He never did.

970
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: You know that in Paris, In Paris, you know, in

971
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 4: Paris he did say. We were at the La Maurice.

972
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 4: He was like, oh, you know it was the lawyers.

973
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 4: You know, you know I shouldn't have listened to the lawyers.

974
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: Lawyers a term me against you, you know, my bad.

975
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: But the bag never came. You know, the fifty I

976
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: wanted to give the fifty back. You know, I was insulted.

977
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: You know, I just seen you spend a half a

978
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 4: million or Cassie in the day.

979
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: It's like, man, you know I did ten years.

980
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: A ticket A ticket would have been you know, yeah,

981
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: you know that would have been the starting point because.

982
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 5: They offered you a deal, right, they offered you a deal.

983
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 5: If you stitched on Diddy.

984
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: Absolutely walk I would have walked.

985
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I want to know and in ninety nine,

986
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: of course with everything going on with Diddy, now people

987
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: would say you were with him for that whole year?

988
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: Tight, right, Yeah? Was there anything that you've seen that

989
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 3: looked a little.

990
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't called freaking Did you see the baby oil?

991
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 4: No? Absolutely not, absolutely not strictly focused on making music

992
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 4: and yeah, no, I didn't see any.

993
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Of that and none of the violence that people are

994
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 2: saying that that are coming up in all these things.

995
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 4: No, I didn't see anything.

996
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask also when Usher came out with Confessions, Yeah,

997
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: and you did the remix.

998
00:52:59,239 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 3: Break that down?

999
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: Had that call came and how y'all did that? Because

1000
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: that was something that we haven't seen or heard before

1001
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 2: back then.

1002
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was it was so divine how that happened,

1003
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: you know. And if you listen to the raps, I say,

1004
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: excuse me, I say, you know, sitting in my cell

1005
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 4: head about the bursts would be alive if I didn't

1006
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 4: shoot first, and I was literally you know, incarceration. All

1007
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 4: you have is your music, your music and your TV

1008
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: that's life, right, and your books. Obviously you know you

1009
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: train your mind. So I had my yamaha. You use

1010
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: your yamaha. Piano as your speaker set so and then

1011
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 4: you plug in your walkman and and then you start

1012
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 4: to boom out. And so when all the new music

1013
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 4: would come out, you know, I'd get the tapes. And

1014
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: so when Confessions came out, you know, I got that,

1015
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 4: and the Confession song was my favorite song. I remember

1016
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: playing that song, you know, over and over and over

1017
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: and over and over again. And I actually even came

1018
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: up with the lyrics to it without anybody reaching out

1019
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: to me. Then Mark Pits and Jermaine Duprix reached out

1020
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: to me because I still had my phone, still had

1021
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: my same number, and I used to check my own

1022
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: messages when I would go to the yard, and I

1023
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: checked my message and I got a message from Jermaine Duprix,

1024
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: and I got a message from Mark Pitts that you know,

1025
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 4: I should want you to get on this record. And

1026
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: I already knew the record, so it was easy work

1027
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 4: for me, and I already had started formulating lyrics, and

1028
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: I literally was in my cell and I came up,

1029
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 4: you know, with those bars, and then I recorded it

1030
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 4: in the yard, literally in the yard, and so you know,

1031
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: in the yard, you know, I got my guys and

1032
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: so I always have people, you know, watching whatever I'm doing,

1033
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: because you know, any day could be your last day arcerated.

1034
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I remember being on the phone, you know, rapping,

1035
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 4: rapping that song. Yeah, so that was first Grammy.

1036
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Maybe we got a Grammy for that.

1037
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 5: I hated the music industry around that time. And the

1038
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 5: reason I hated the music industry around that time because

1039
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 5: I felt like they were rewarding the worst shit in

1040
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 5: our culture. Because fifty had just sold a bunch of

1041
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 5: records and you know, he got shot nine times. And

1042
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 5: then I felt like def Jam was just giving you

1043
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 5: the deal because they were really looking for authentic.

1044
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: That's how I felt like.

1045
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 5: They were looking for authentic street dudes who had liked

1046
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 5: real street stories, and they were just rewarding people for that.

1047
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 4: You know, I disagree for the most part. Maybe there

1048
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 4: are some record companies that you know, were just in it, uh,

1049
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: you know, for the sensationalism. But I go back to

1050
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 4: what I said, Uh, you know, when I was out

1051
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 4: on trial and the media kept asking me about you know,

1052
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: my album, my lyrics, I said, you know, hip hop

1053
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 4: is not responsible for violence in America. America is responsible

1054
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 4: for violence in America. So you can't blame fifty. You

1055
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: can't blame Tupac, You can't blame Shine for living the

1056
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 4: life that we live. You have to blame a system. No,

1057
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying so the system creates the art

1058
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: that we project. And so you know, in a creative space,

1059
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: you have the right to express your art. And so

1060
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be fair, you know, for

1061
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 4: the music industry to suppress anybody's art. There's a debate

1062
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 4: as to, you know, censorship and how far do you go,

1063
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: what's responsible, what's irresponsible? But fifty stories, fifty story. I

1064
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 4: knew him before he got shot nine times, and he

1065
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 4: was always an artist. He was in Daddy's house, writing

1066
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 4: for Diddy, writing for other people. But you know, he

1067
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 4: told his story. He wasn't lying, And so so should

1068
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: Sony say, oh, no, you know, we're not going to

1069
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 4: sign or no he moved the aftermath. But should Jimmy

1070
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: I Van should have said no, we're not going to

1071
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 4: sign him, said Jimmy Ivan say no, we're not going

1072
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 4: to pick up death Row when time wanna drop death Row.

1073
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, it's it's a it's a

1074
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: conundrum because our art is a result of the society

1075
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: that has been created by the powers that be, and

1076
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: our art has also been a blessing from God for

1077
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: us to escape those harsh realities and do better. So

1078
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: if it's one thing I can say though for you

1079
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 4: know people coming up now, is hopefully they learn from

1080
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: the mistakes that I've made and they try to make

1081
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 4: that transition and turn that corner before it gets too late.

1082
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 4: You know, he saw a young thug, you know, just

1083
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: get off, you know, thank God, you know he got

1084
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: his free them. You see little dirt, you know, facing

1085
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 4: life for that abatement to murder. You know, my prayer

1086
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 4: and my hope is for this new generation to learn

1087
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 4: from what I've been through and not have to face

1088
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 4: that ten years of that life sentence and to turn

1089
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: the corner. But I'm very careful even today, you know,

1090
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: I still finance musicians and believes always try to help

1091
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 4: them out and that's their art. I can't you know,

1092
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 4: I can't tell a young musician in Belize who is

1093
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 4: selling drugs or you know, who's a part of a gang,

1094
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: or you know, who resources the violence as a means

1095
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 4: of survival. I can't tell him what to sing about. Right,

1096
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 4: Who am I like he's singing about his life.

1097
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 5: Well, I agree with that, and I feel like fifty

1098
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 5: did have great music.

1099
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: I guess for you, it was like, I'm like, why

1100
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: I definitly am' giving him three million.

1101
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 4: Dos because I had great music too. The Sean album

1102
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: was a classic. That was a great album. But you

1103
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: had been in jail for a minute. No, I was

1104
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: in jail two thousand and one, two thousand and four.

1105
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 4: But here's why Deaf Jam gave me the deal for

1106
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 4: the same reason Doctor Dre was on the phone wanting

1107
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 4: to sign me. Why jay Z came to Rykers Allen

1108
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: in the mayback, why Murder Inc. Like, this is what

1109
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm saying. There has to be something about Shine that

1110
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: no matter what I go through, people keep wanting to

1111
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 4: sign me. There has to be some extraordinary talent there.

1112
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: Because Murder Inc. Nas irv Gotti, Jaru, Shanti, I was

1113
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 4: in the box on Rykers Allen. Literally all came up

1114
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: there to sign me. Shook Knight wanted to come and

1115
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 4: see me. Everybody wanted to sign me. Dan Wy shout

1116
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: out the Rough Riders. Everybody wanted to sign Shine when

1117
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 4: I was behind the wall. So it wasn't a matter.

1118
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 4: Oh he's locked up. Anybody could get locked up. It's

1119
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 4: a matter. He's nice. He put out he put out

1120
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 4: a great album because there were questions about Shine until

1121
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: that Bad Boy A song dropped. And when that Bad

1122
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 4: Boy song dropped, the music industry shook. Everybody was like, Okay,

1123
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: all right, yeah, this is serious. Then Bonnie and Shine,

1124
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 4: and then That's Gangster, and then the entire album. You know,

1125
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 4: the Neptune song with Pharrell. You know, people gonna die,

1126
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 4: like there's some serious records of Commission. That's Fat Joe's

1127
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 4: favorite song. I met Fat Joe at All Star Weekend

1128
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 4: and Pistol Pete and his whole crew, and they're like, yo, Commission,

1129
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: that's my song. Like, people grew to love Shine, and

1130
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 4: the body of work spoke for itself. So whatever speculations,

1131
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 4: whatever misconceptions were had, when people listened to the work

1132
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 4: of art and they saw the life and they saw

1133
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 4: the real situations that I was going through, you know,

1134
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: all it did was give credibility to what I was saying.

1135
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 4: But if what I was saying was trash, if it

1136
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: wasn't great, then it doesn't matter how tough you are.

1137
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: When did you decide to give up rap, because I'm

1138
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: sure when you came home or even recently, I'm sure

1139
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: people are taped to you to say, hey, I want

1140
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: you to get on my record. I want to hear

1141
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: your voice on my record. How many artists have reached

1142
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: out to you in the last couple of years and

1143
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: how many times have you said no?

1144
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 4: I've said no several times, you know. Respect to my

1145
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 4: my god bust rhymes. Uh, you know, he's he was

1146
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: one of the difficult nos because when I came out,

1147
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 4: he was in Belize. He brought a he brought an

1148
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 4: ap for me, like is a welcome home gift?

1149
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: Uh?

1150
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: You know, he's a real stand up, solid god. And

1151
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 4: then he wanted me to do a record with him

1152
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 4: and nas and I was like, ah, you know right now.

1153
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 4: Then he wanted me to do a song a couple

1154
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 4: of years later with a Belize and artist by the

1155
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 4: name of Prayer. You know, respect to him.

1156
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: He's signed Prayer, right, yeah, he's in Prayer.

1157
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, that's when I was

1158
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: in that I was already elected official. I was like,

1159
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 4: I can't do it. So yeah, there have been many

1160
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: people that have asked.

1161
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: You still perform.

1162
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, like not even at all, not even

1163
01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: charity events, nothing at all.

1164
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 4: Well, I did the charity event in the UK with

1165
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 4: Diddy and Gigs, and I did the Lifetime Achievement award.

1166
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: You know, those were those were legacy moments. So like, sure,

1167
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: if the Grammys, you know, says, you know, they want

1168
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 4: to give me a you know, an award or they

1169
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: want me to be you know, things like that, that's legacy.

1170
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's those are things that you know,

1171
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 4: once in a lifetime. So I do it for that.

1172
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 4: For the documentary, I was thinking about putting out an

1173
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 4: album similar to American Gangster, where it would be an

1174
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 4: album for the documentary, but it's so difficult being an

1175
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 4: elected official who's not just an elected official but the

1176
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 4: leader of a mass party government and waiting that, you know,

1177
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 4: I just can't find a space to do that because again,

1178
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 4: you don't want to put out a body of work

1179
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: that's subpar, that's below the standards that people I want.

1180
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 2: Did this team reached out to you since doing all

1181
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: these interviews just you know, because I mean I'm sure.

1182
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: No, no, I think the team put out a statement though.

1183
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, a statement.

1184
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but.

1185
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: There were we had a phone call when the when

1186
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: I because there's a there's a journalist uh in Belieze

1187
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: that you know, is obsessed with linking me the ditty.

1188
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 4: So that's why initially some of the sound bites that

1189
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: you heard on Shade Room, it wasn't me, uh, you know,

1190
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 4: throwing anybody under the bus. It's just that I'm not

1191
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 4: going to take the fall again because you know, this

1192
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 4: particular journalist in Belieze was trying to say, you know,

1193
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 4: oh diddy's your guy, you know, or that's your friend,

1194
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 4: and how do you think it's going to affect your

1195
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 4: political career? And I'm like, hold on, that's your path

1196
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 4: though exactly No, I'm just I'm telling you it's crazy.

1197
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 4: So then that's where I'm like, behold on, why are

1198
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 4: you trying to pretend as if I wasn't incarcerated for

1199
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 4: ten years in the port for teen years? And you know,

1200
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 4: we went through all these different phases like why are

1201
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 4: you trying to link me with him? Yes, he agreed

1202
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 4: to give a donation and Howard scholarship for Believing Youth.

1203
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 4: Why would I not want to take that? But don't

1204
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 4: try to, uh, you know, distort the reality. Don't try to,

1205
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: you know, recreate and rewrite history. This is someone who

1206
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 4: destroyed my life. And that's when you hear that SoundBite.

1207
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 4: It's not me wanting to talk about that. These are

1208
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 4: the first interviews that I'm doing since his tragedy befell him.

1209
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 4: And I could show you every media house reaching out

1210
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: to me over the last couple of months, but I

1211
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 4: refuse to do it. But now I have the documentary

1212
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 4: coming out, so I have to engage with the free.

1213
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: Press, he says.

1214
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 5: Mister Colembs categorically denies mister Barrell's allegations, including any suggestion

1215
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 5: that what you're reaching for men, including any suggestion that

1216
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 5: he orchestrated mister Barrow to take the fall and sacrifice

1217
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 5: him by directing witnesses to testify against him. These claims

1218
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 5: are unequivocally false. He was acquitted of all charges in

1219
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 5: ninety nine, and he appreciates the path that you're on

1220
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 5: and which is you continued success. And it's unfortunate that

1221
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 5: you've chosen to revisit these allegations. Mister Kom's trust that

1222
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 5: responsible journalism will we're both to establish legal outcomes, and

1223
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 5: mister Come's positive long thing and.

1224
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: Support for those he has worked with.

1225
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 4: Listen, I don't have to tell you what is obvious.

1226
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 4: Everybody and beloved mothers knows what happened. That was just

1227
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,439
Speaker 4: a fact, you know. Now, it's not going to rhyme

1228
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 4: about it just to lie with him. And nowas became

1229
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: cool after the fact, But there were so many people

1230
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 4: that were hurt in hip hop that felt that he

1231
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: did me dirty. And it's just a matter of fact

1232
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 4: that I've been saying it and I'll continue to say it.

1233
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 4: Even if what happened to Diddy didn't happen, that would

1234
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 4: have to be in a documentary and it would have been,

1235
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 4: you know, a bit more. He did it. You know,

1236
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 4: he blamed it on the lawyers. We forgave him move on.

1237
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 4: But then when the little rod thing comes out and

1238
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 4: he's bragging about shooting up the club and having me

1239
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 4: take the fall. I don't know who this guy is anymore.

1240
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 4: And then all these other accusations come out there. He's like, no,

1241
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 4: it's not true. Then we see the video. Listen, I

1242
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 4: don't know who this guy is and I'm not taking

1243
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 4: the fall again, So don't put me, you know, next

1244
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 4: to him in that regard. This is the fact we're

1245
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 4: not going to rewrite history and we're just telling the facts.

1246
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: I got a couple more questions.

1247
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 5: You got a whole documentary out of the yea, all

1248
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 5: this stuff, But how can you be comfortable with people

1249
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 5: who you know assisted in your career but they were

1250
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 5: still friends with Puff and they maintained a relationship with him,

1251
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 5: knowing what happened that night, and while you were incarcerated

1252
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 5: fighting for your life.

1253
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 4: It was difficult. It was extremely difficult. But as I said,

1254
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: I got to a space where, you know, the currency,

1255
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 4: the capital that I was looking at is how relationships

1256
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 4: could benefit Belieze. So it was having to develop that

1257
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: emotional intelligence to think about the bigger picture and to

1258
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 4: understand that, you know, in an entertainment business, who's really

1259
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 4: friends who really loves you? They don't even love Puff,

1260
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 4: They're really not even his friend. I don't know, so

1261
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 4: you know. And then I moved on, Like I said.

1262
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm not the one. I'm not little Rod.

1263
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 4: He's the one that put the suit out there, you know,

1264
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 4: Cassie's the one that put thish. I'm not the one

1265
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 4: that brought these things back to life.

1266
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: You wanted to though, absolutely not. I thought you said

1267
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: you wanted through puff.

1268
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm saying when all these lawsuits came out,

1269
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 4: I thought about, well, listen, you know, if they if

1270
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 4: he owes them thirty mil, then I should get a

1271
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 4: hundred mil out of that billion dollars. But what I'm

1272
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: saying is I was content with the way it was

1273
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 4: living my life and Belieze accomplishing the great things that

1274
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 4: I'm accomplishing, and just moving forward with trying to become

1275
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: the next Prime Minister of Belieze, and using all my

1276
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: relationships in the entertainment business to promote and market Belieze.

1277
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 4: And so that's what it was about. It wasn't about,

1278
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 4: oh yo, you were friends with Diddy while I was

1279
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 4: locked up. You know, I can't be your friend. Listen,

1280
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 4: we're not here for that. You got love for me,

1281
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: Come visit Belize, buy a condo, you know, build a

1282
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 4: beachfront resort, you know, come do a show there, Come

1283
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 4: talk to the kids, you know, give some laptops. That's

1284
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 4: how I treated those relationships.

1285
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: Now, in twenty twenty, during COVID, Belieze Press released I

1286
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: guess an incident or article that you got into an

1287
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: argument with your wife that was later, I guess dropped

1288
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 2: what happened with that withdrawn? It was withdrawn? Yeah, what

1289
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: happened with that incident? And why was it so big?

1290
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: And I want to know what's worse, politics or the

1291
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: rap game, because they seem like they both in your

1292
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: life like crazy.

1293
01:08:54,920 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 4: And I think both. I'd say politics for me, because

1294
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 4: I'm doing politics to help people and helping people that

1295
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 4: come from where you come from, there's nothing like it.

1296
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 4: I was making music for the world as young musician,

1297
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 4: but to be in my country, you know, the the

1298
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 4: gains from politics to me are greater than the games

1299
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 4: from music. But you could argue, if you make music

1300
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 4: and you're touching people's lives and you know you're inspiring people,

1301
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 4: there's a game there too. But I guess I live

1302
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 4: where I'm at and where I'm at right now, I

1303
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't trade where I'm at in politics for anything as

1304
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 4: nasty and as dirty as it is. And that's all

1305
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 4: that was. You know, we had an argument, and so

1306
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 4: you know, there was an exaggeration of the events, and

1307
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 4: that's what she said. She said that, you know, she exaggerated, exaggerated,

1308
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: you know, whatever she told and withdrew it and we

1309
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 4: moved on.

1310
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 5: Do you remember your attorney Matt Middleton attempting to sit

1311
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 5: down between you and little Sean in order to tell

1312
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 5: you how to deal with puff?

1313
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 4: No, okay, I don't remember that.

1314
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to.

1315
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 3: You got another one because I I want to. I

1316
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 3: want to.

1317
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: I want to ask about Belize. Right, That's That's one

1318
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: thing we didn't discuss that much in here. Explain to

1319
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: the people what Believes it's like to you, right, especially

1320
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: for myself who's never been to Belize.

1321
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 3: And why should people go to Belize? What's beautiful about Believes?

1322
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: Where should they eat? Tell us about the country that

1323
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: you smile about all the time?

1324
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Believes is paradise. You know, Belize is heaven for me.

1325
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 4: You know, the most beautiful beaches in the world. Uh,

1326
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 4: you know, White Sands. If you love diving, we got

1327
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 4: the greatest diving, uh, in all of the free world.

1328
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 4: In the Blue Hole, we got the best food. We

1329
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 4: got the most beautiful, humble, warm and welcoming people. You know,

1330
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 4: my two favorite I got a few favorite resorts. If

1331
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 4: you're going to stay in San Pedro, which is like

1332
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 4: the Miami of uh, you know, Belize, I'd stay at

1333
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 4: the a Liar. That's that's my place of choice of

1334
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 4: Beech Trump Villa at the Liar. And then I go

1335
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 4: south sometimes because south you can drive. When you go

1336
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 4: to San Page, you gotta take the boat, or you

1337
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 4: gotta fly because it's like an island, it's a key.

1338
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 4: But then for mainland, when I still want to be

1339
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 4: on the beach, I go to Placentia at the it'sana

1340
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 4: ah Bee Trump Villa, or in Hopkins, which is you know,

1341
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 4: one of the greatest places. I'm going there on Sunday

1342
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 4: because that's where the Garyfuna community is. Garyfuna. They're very

1343
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 4: big and in New York and throughout. My My grandmother

1344
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 4: is from Honduras, where a lot of Garifuna are from,

1345
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 4: so they have a very culture rich cultural experience there.

1346
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, so and then something what I got into

1347
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 4: in my older age is the rural area, you know,

1348
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 4: starting to love the river and and that jungle vibe.

1349
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 4: And so there's a place called Kaana, you know, that's

1350
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 4: in Cayo, that's like on the border of Guatemala. So yeah,

1351
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 4: those are my those are my favorite places that I

1352
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 4: would recommend people to go if you're going to the city.

1353
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 4: The Fort George Hotel is great. Uh, you know, that's

1354
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 4: like five star luxury. And you know, I encourage people

1355
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 4: to eat at There's a place called D n D's.

1356
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,480
Speaker 4: It's a place that I've been eating so on Saint Thomas.

1357
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 4: The best food that you never taste if you're in

1358
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 4: Believe City. J.

1359
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: Prens got an out out there, right.

1360
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's actually having I think a big party tomorrow

1361
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 4: and belieze. But I'm here. Everybody's flying out there. So

1362
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 4: he got a few islands out there. He's been out

1363
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 4: there for a while. He owns an island, a few islands.

1364
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: He always said that come to believe.

1365
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 4: Believe believes it is paradise. You know, it's great to invest.

1366
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 4: We have a strong democracy, strong transition to power. So

1367
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 4: even though I'm not in government right now, still invite

1368
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 4: people to come down there, because when governments do change,

1369
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 4: you know, there's no victimization, so your investment will be stable.

1370
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 4: You know, our violence is limited. You know, obviously have

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 4: the impoverished communities and so most of the violence is

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01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 4: restricted to those communities. So we don't have a problem

1373
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 4: with tourists. We don't have a problem with investors coming

1374
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 4: down there. So I definitely invite everyone to come down

1375
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 4: there and enjoy paradise.

1376
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 5: My last question, way does God fit in your decision

1377
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 5: to forgive somebody that the world can now see could

1378
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 5: have been guilty of all that you accused them of

1379
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 5: back then?

1380
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 4: Divine intervention got me to where I'm at today, and

1381
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 4: I couldn't be where I'm at today without forgiveness. Doesn't

1382
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 4: mean that I'm going to come here and refuse to

1383
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 4: answer questions, doesn't mean that I'm gonna sanitize history or

1384
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:08,520
Speaker 4: rewrite it to protect anyone or to preserve anyone's feelings.

1385
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 4: But forgiveness is extremely important. So that's one thing for

1386
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 4: people to take away from the documentary is that you

1387
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 4: do forgive. It doesn't mean you forget, it doesn't mean

1388
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 4: you rewrite history. But you have to let go. You

1389
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: have to let go because holding on to anger, holding

1390
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 4: on to hatred, holding on to you know, those deep

1391
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 4: rooted trauma can become a cancer for you, and it

1392
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 4: can block your blessing, it can block your pathway. So,

1393
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 4: like I said, the greatest thing I did was not

1394
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 4: expect anything from anyone, and that was hard because, like man,

1395
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 4: you're a billionaire at least let me get you know,

1396
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 4: percent of that and percent of that. But when you

1397
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 4: change that mindset, which is, you know what, I don't

1398
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 4: want anything from anyone, get everything from God. I'll just

1399
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 4: work hard and I'll just keep going forward, and no

1400
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 4: one owes me anything, you have a much healthier life.

1401
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 4: And that comes from a lot of prayer. That's why

1402
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 4: I spent, you know, all that time in Jerusalem. You know,

1403
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 4: I don't regret that that was one of the greatest

1404
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 4: experiences of my life. But I learned from that experience

1405
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 4: that it's not about being religious. It's about being a

1406
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 4: good person. It's about humanity. And humanity has to be

1407
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 4: about forgiveness, has to be about tolerance, has to be

1408
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 4: about compassion, has to be about empathy. And those are

1409
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 4: action words. So religion is an action sport. You can't,

1410
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 4: you know, be on a pulpit or you can't you know,

1411
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 4: wax religion, but not live spiritual, not live a clean life,

1412
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 4: not live a healthy life. So you know, I've been

1413
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 4: praying for for thirty years, every single day. You know,

1414
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 4: there was a time when I was in costrat fast

1415
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 4: for six months sun up to sundown. So the type

1416
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:04,799
Speaker 4: of rigorous spiritual training that I've gone through has prepared

1417
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 4: me for exactly where I am today and being a

1418
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 4: political leader. We always hear about corruption. So many people

1419
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 4: get to the office that I hold, in the office

1420
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 4: that I want to hold as the next Prime Minister

1421
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 4: of Belieze, and they betray the people. They betray the

1422
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 4: values that they've promoted all along to manifest those the policies.

1423
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 4: They totally forget that. And so everything that I've been

1424
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 4: through prepares me because if I didn't betray Diddy, if

1425
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 4: I'm still not, he might, you know, be offended, he

1426
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: might be hurt because I'm telling the truth. But I'm

1427
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 4: still not up here saying, oh, did he shot them?

1428
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 4: Did he had the gun? He gave me the gun.

1429
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 4: You know he told me this about Tupac. I'm still

1430
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 4: not up here saying those things. I'm still loyal to integrity,

1431
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 4: not to him. I'm loyal to character. That's why it's

1432
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 4: called the honorable. My title in the House of Representatives

1433
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 4: is honorable. That's what they call all members of the

1434
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 4: House of Representatives. But I was honorable when I decided

1435
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: to risk twenty five years instead of getting my friend

1436
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 4: and my brother in trouble, even though he was getting

1437
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 4: me in trouble, right, So God, that relationship with God,

1438
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 4: and I'm not talking about that superficial that you know fronting.

1439
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 4: I'm talking about when I was in the tombs, got

1440
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 4: you know, down and prayed with tears coming down my eyes,

1441
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 4: and I said to God, you know, I'm not going

1442
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 4: to ask you why. I'm not going to ask you

1443
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 4: how because I was just driving a Bentley last week.

1444
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 4: I was just in my Ferrari last week. You know,

1445
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 4: one of the biggest stars in America. And that's from

1446
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 4: growing up in Belize where we didn't even have a

1447
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 4: toilet in my house, to a single pair of home

1448
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn. I didn't ask you why and how then,

1449
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to ask you why. Mean now,

1450
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 4: all I'm going to ask you is give me the

1451
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 4: ability to endure what I'm going through. That's all because

1452
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 4: I know the same way I got through. The most

1453
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 4: difficult thing I ever did was to become successful as

1454
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 4: a musician. To go from being poor and you know,

1455
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 4: making millions of dollars as an African Caribbean American. It's

1456
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 4: no easy feat. Definitely not back then. That was the

1457
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 4: most difficult thing I did in my life. So being incarcerated,

1458
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 4: I knew I could manage that, but only by the

1459
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 4: grace of God. And so yeah, God has played a

1460
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 4: serious role in my life. You don't always listen because

1461
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 4: I sat up for ten years praying, and when I

1462
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 4: got out, you know, I made stupid mistakes. But you

1463
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 4: keep praying, and that's what the documentary is about. You

1464
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 4: keep praying, keep working, you fall, you get up, and

1465
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 4: it's all about analysis, self reflection, constant assessment. You're constantly evolving,

1466
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 4: and you know you gotta have the target. The target

1467
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 4: is to be a good person. The target is to

1468
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 4: be the best person, best father to your children. You know,

1469
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 4: God bless my daughter Naomi. You know, the best brother,

1470
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 4: the best you know, friend, the best everything. And that's

1471
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 4: a constant that's every day. You gotta fight for your

1472
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 4: soul and and and for me. You can't come without

1473
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:22,959
Speaker 4: divine intervention.

1474
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 5: You made me understand some things today. You made me

1475
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 5: overstand something because you said something. Just now, you said,

1476
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 5: you said, I know what he told me about Tupac,

1477
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 5: so you know he can You know, he had to

1478
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 5: have the tendency to do that, so that he probably

1479
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 5: did say those things the little rod I get.

1480
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: I understand that.

1481
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 4: Maybe in the memoir I'll speak some more about it, But.

1482
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: I love your story. Man.

1483
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 5: I think that you are, you know, just to watch

1484
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 5: you evolve over the years, you are a reason why

1485
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 5: you gotta let things just play out. And you really

1486
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 5: shouldn't judge people when they're young, because you just never

1487
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 5: know the journey justice.

1488
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 4: Criminal justice reform, that's one thing that I don't think

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Speaker 4: I've been verbalizing enough. I am the poster child criminal

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Speaker 4: justice reform. I'm the reason that we shouldn't be engaging

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Speaker 4: in mass warehousing. I'm the reason why young people, you know,

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Speaker 4: when they become involved in the criminal justice system, should

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Speaker 4: be given every opportunity to reform and to rehabilitate, because

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Speaker 4: this is what happens. You got a bunch of young

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Speaker 4: people that could become politicians, could become just law abiding

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Speaker 4: contributors of society. You don't want to destroy people's lives.

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Speaker 4: And I think for too long, incarceration, you know, hasn't

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Speaker 4: worked the way that it should work, and there's been

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Speaker 4: this rush to incarcerate rather than to rehabilitate. So definitely,

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Speaker 4: I hope that the people that are fighting I got

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Speaker 4: to acknowledge. My friend Bazz Drve Singer, she's a professor

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Speaker 4: at John Jay and she does wonders with her movement

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Speaker 4: of you know, like going to bringing school university to prisons.

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Speaker 4: You know, been doing a program prison to university pipeline

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Speaker 4: where you know, guys going there their masters, their doctorates.

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Speaker 4: Is actually a guy that's a professor at John Jay

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Speaker 4: that started in her program, So he went from being

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Speaker 4: incarcerated getting his degrees to being a professor at John

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Speaker 4: Jay University. So definitely, you know, I hope and I

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Speaker 4: pray that the documentary can inspire people as they're dealing

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Speaker 4: with the criminal justice system from the side of being

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Speaker 4: an offender, knowing that there's hope for them in changing

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Speaker 4: their lives and in becoming you know, the best version

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Speaker 4: of themselves, and that that is not the end of them.

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Speaker 4: And for the people, the legislators, for the advocates to

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Speaker 4: keep you know, advocating for a system that is truly just,

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Speaker 4: because justice is not condemning someone for the rest of

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Speaker 4: their lives. Justice is the victims the justice, you know,

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Speaker 4: but perpetrators need the opportunity to be contrite and the

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Speaker 4: opportunity to reform. For the betterment of society.

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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you joining us. The Honor Bot Shine.

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Speaker 2: The documentary is streaming now on Hulu and Seane, we appreciate.

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Speaker 3: You for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you come down to believe.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make out there, go out there, you know

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Speaker 2: absolutely years ago I would love to absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Ladies, gentlemen, it's Sean. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club