Speaker 1: All from Ruby.
Speaker 2: Hello? Hello, what is your name?
Speaker 1: My name is Ruby?
Speaker 2: What's up? Ruby?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 2: How can I get you today? What's what's happening?
Speaker 1: Shoot? I don't know. Life is crazy? Life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do say that a lot. I do say
Speaker 2: that a lot, and I fucking mean it with my
Speaker 2: entire body every time.
Speaker 1: That I say it, I feel it with my entire No,
Speaker 1: that sounds weird. Hmmm. Yeah, life is crazy. Have you
Speaker 1: seen Do you have any texts, previous texts?
Speaker 2: Do I have any previous texts from the past.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tried to call him before.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, uh no, no worry about it. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, do you have a thing you want to
Speaker 2: talk about?
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, not particularly. Life is just crazy. The
Speaker 1: last last couple of years been crazy.
Speaker 2: How old are you reby?
Speaker 1: I am nineteen?
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh why have the last few years been crazy?
Speaker 1: Well? Hm hmm. So I grew up Mormon, whole family
Speaker 1: left Mormonism. That was pretty crazy. I had to go
Speaker 1: through like treatment for like crazy uh eating disorder stuff.
Speaker 1: That was pretty crazy. Anyway, it's just lots of crazy,
Speaker 1: lots of change, and it's been like it's like the
Speaker 1: most persistent thought has been like this is just sucks,
Speaker 1: but like i'd write like it's weird. It's like I know,
Speaker 1: it's like I know, uh, yes, there is the gecko guy.
Speaker 1: My brother's in the room. Yeah, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: life is hard, and it's like I'm glad it happened,
Speaker 1: but you know it's hard.
Speaker 2: H Do you think it'll get any easier?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so yeah, that's kind of what I want
Speaker 1: to talk about. It's like that's what everybody says, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's like weird.
Speaker 4: It's it's like and.
Speaker 1: Then I okay, that's the thought. I'm finding the words.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the word. Oh, it's just like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm only nineteen yet, like everything feels so shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting question. Will it get easier? That's
Speaker 2: an interesting question. I don't like when people say it'll
Speaker 2: get easier, as if that's like fucking I hate when
Speaker 2: people say that because it's like that's not it's not guaranteed,
Speaker 2: you know. It's like I don't like, uh, like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think you should. I I'm sure I've done this
Speaker 2: a billion times in my life, so whatever, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: you should probably not try not to promise things that
Speaker 2: are not you can't fulfill, and so like it will
Speaker 2: get easier just feels to me like like an empty promise,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Not, by the way, not
Speaker 2: not to say that the alternative, not to say that
Speaker 2: everything will always will get worse. That's also that's equally
Speaker 2: as much of a platitude. The truth is that you
Speaker 2: kind of have no fucking idea, but you can. I
Speaker 2: get you can do certain things with your life agency
Speaker 2: two give yourself a better shot that things will get easier.
Speaker 2: Life can take your agency and shove it up your
Speaker 2: ass too, But that's kind of your it's kind of
Speaker 2: your only option. I suppose what would what would things
Speaker 2: look like if they got easier?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's just like more routine.
Speaker 1: I think that's I'm like formulating the words better now.
Speaker 1: It's like life is just so like crazy, and it's
Speaker 1: like I'm sure I can do things to make it easier,
Speaker 1: but so hard to like find the motivation, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, what.
Speaker 2: Do you attempt to get motivated to do?
Speaker 1: Just like, I don't know, I feel like nothing about
Speaker 1: my life lately is like like there's no routine like whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I feel like, so it's hard to like.
Speaker 2: You in college or you in college? Do you have
Speaker 2: a job or something.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm in community college. I'm in my last
Speaker 1: semester actually, which is exciting. I'm also working, but it's
Speaker 1: like I am like two classes and they're all on
Speaker 1: different days at different times. And then my job is
Speaker 1: like it's very isolated, and the hours like all over
Speaker 1: the place. Yeah, so it's yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know what's what's the job.
Speaker 1: I'm a behavioral technician, So I work with adults with
Speaker 1: Down syndrome right now and like with like their treatment
Speaker 1: plans and getting them socialized and like emotional regulation and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 2: Why is that isolating?
Speaker 1: Well, So, I mean I work one on one with
Speaker 1: just one client right now, and so I'm like and
Speaker 1: it's a really fulfilling job, and I feel like really
Speaker 1: close to my client obviously, like within a prof sense.
Speaker 1: But it's just like I'm with a twenty four year
Speaker 1: old and he has like he's very low functioning. There's
Speaker 1: like different levels, you know, high school.
Speaker 2: I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I understand, Yeah, and he just had like really bad regression,
Speaker 1: and I like, I'm just with like this dude all day.
Speaker 1: I don't get you.
Speaker 2: I get you, I get because it just you're one
Speaker 2: on one. It's like you're wait, so you're a tell
Speaker 2: me the job title again.
Speaker 1: I'm a behavioral technician okay, slash like personal assistance. Why
Speaker 1: I work going on along with this guy and like
Speaker 1: his family basically for a treatment.
Speaker 2: So it's just you and this guy, Like I assume,
Speaker 2: like is there not do you have like a boss.
Speaker 1: Who is also yeah, like so I work with his family.
Speaker 1: I am like assigned by like an agency, but his
Speaker 1: family is like like my boss basically his mom. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so you're okay you like, I don't have
Speaker 1: coworkers or anything.
Speaker 2: You provide living care to this guy? Yeah yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: yes that makes sense. No, I can definitely see how
Speaker 2: how that could be, how that could be kind of
Speaker 2: isolating for sure. Yeah, but that does sound rewarding how
Speaker 2: I feel? Go ahead? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, you go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh it's just gonna say I'm still thinking about whether
Speaker 2: or not life gets easier.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I was well it's sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh I was gonna say, like it's interesting because it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that saying is very like
Speaker 1: like life gets easier like you were saying, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not a good thing to like like bank on
Speaker 1: because it's like it's been interesting just to see like
Speaker 1: where me and my family have been at, like seeing
Speaker 1: like them whole change. It's like leaving a freaking cold
Speaker 1: and stuff too. It's like in their like seeing the
Speaker 1: stuff they're going through. It's kind of like, no, it
Speaker 1: doesn't get easier, but but it's like been really good
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 4: It's just yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Like so when you when you are observing the lives
Speaker 2: of like I guess your parents, and I guess of
Speaker 2: like other people you know who are later in their
Speaker 2: life journeys, have you observed it getting easier.
Speaker 1: Like like yes and no, I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like it's like it's a harder but more rewarding, like
Speaker 1: path I guess kind of like yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I feel like I do feel like lives
Speaker 1: become a lot more like I don't know what we're
Speaker 1: like colorful, I guess since like leaving and just also
Speaker 1: just going through a lot of other stuff like I
Speaker 1: don't know, I see things a lot differently, or like
Speaker 1: I know different people now, like my parents. The changes
Speaker 1: with my parents are so funny, Like they're different now
Speaker 1: in our relationships different and it's awesome. And but like
Speaker 1: we're at the same time, like we're all just like
Speaker 1: really depressed, which is really funny. Well it's not funny,
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, it's just an interesting dichotomy.
Speaker 2: I guess, do you know anyone else who left Mormonism
Speaker 2: that's like one of your friends.
Speaker 1: No, all my like good friends didn't really grow up
Speaker 1: in it, but I can talk to them. I guess.
Speaker 1: It's funny because like I live in like a smaller
Speaker 1: town too, and so I like and I grew up
Speaker 1: with a lot of other kids, like in the congregation,
Speaker 1: so I know a lot of them. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: that's it's been weird too, Like a lot of people
Speaker 1: I've grown up with, I like see them like treat
Speaker 1: me and my family differently now that we've left, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, oh, that was a superficial relationship.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just that kind of stuck. But
Speaker 1: it's also like whatever, I guess.
Speaker 2: I guess life gets a little easier in the sense
Speaker 2: that I feel like as you get older, you uh,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I mentioned that you have like a
Speaker 2: little bit of agency to determine if your life is
Speaker 2: gonna get easier, like, you know, a little bit whatever
Speaker 2: you got, uh, And I think you get I think
Speaker 2: as you get older, you get a little bit more
Speaker 2: of that agency. You you think, it's like a bell curve.
Speaker 2: You get a little bit more of that agency. And
Speaker 2: then once you turn uh, and then one, and then
Speaker 2: once you get all your body starts to break down
Speaker 2: forever until you die. And then then it just starts
Speaker 2: to go. Your agency sits away, as your as your
Speaker 2: ankles starts to decay, and you and then but then
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll say this, I do believe that
Speaker 2: life gets easier in the sense that eventually, yes, you die,
Speaker 2: and that's the easiest thing ever. I had a debate. No,
Speaker 2: I had a debate with someone. I had a debate
Speaker 2: with This is fucked up. I shouldn't say any of this,
Speaker 2: but I had a debate with someone. I might have
Speaker 2: talked about this on the podcast already, but I told
Speaker 2: somebody that I thought it would be easier to be
Speaker 2: dead than being alive. And he then he strongly disagreed
Speaker 2: with me because he said, because he said that it's
Speaker 2: not he said that it isn't uh comparable, They're not
Speaker 2: like being a lot. Being dead is not easy in
Speaker 2: her heart, it's not even anything. So to say it's
Speaker 2: easy it's false because something that's not not even existing
Speaker 2: can't be easier hard. It can't be anything it's not existing.
Speaker 2: But I did I don't it's a fair argument that
Speaker 2: he made, But I don't know if I agree with it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, yeah, I don't know, but well,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm glad we could. I'm glad we could reach that conclusion.
Speaker 1: It gets interesting, it gets more interesting, it gets more interesting.
Speaker 2: Actually, I disagree with that too. I don't think that's inherent.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's uh, it can, I'll say, I'll
Speaker 2: say it absolutely. I believe with one hundred percent certainty
Speaker 2: that it can get more interesting. I don't believe with
Speaker 2: one hundred percent certainty that it does automatically. But I
Speaker 2: agree with you that it can.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's fair. Yeah, semi semi adult stage of life
Speaker 1: is interesting.
Speaker 2: I guess how do you, uh, how do you feel
Speaker 2: about this conversation?
Speaker 1: It's okay. I was kind of surprised that I'm here,
Speaker 1: but so my bad.
Speaker 2: Don't you have nothing to apologize for?
Speaker 1: Okay, well cool, thank you sir, of course.
Speaker 2: Is is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Well, what did you use? Hold on? Don't tell me
Speaker 2: I want to hold on. Don't say a fucking word
Speaker 2: hold on. Uh No, I'm sorry. I don't remember your name?
Speaker 2: What was it? Oh Man?
Speaker 1: Ruby?
Speaker 2: Ruby?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling Ruby, Thank you?
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't remember any anyone's name. What
Speaker 2: does life get easier?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I've been thinking about that. I've
Speaker 2: been thinking about whether or not life gets easier for
Speaker 2: some people it does? Uh, I don't know. I very
Speaker 2: much have been wondering with myself if life if the
Speaker 2: idea that at some point in the future, I have
Speaker 2: a strong like, Okay, I have a very strong belief
Speaker 2: that at some point in the future my life will
Speaker 2: get easier. I'm strong on a personal level. I believe
Speaker 2: that my life will get easier in the future. And
Speaker 2: I've kind of compiled a little handful of external reasons
Speaker 2: as to why I believe that is the case. And
Speaker 2: I've taken these external reasons and I've examined them, and
Speaker 2: I'll go, because of these things, at a certain point
Speaker 2: in the future, my life will get easier. And a
Speaker 2: strong part of me believes that. But then I have
Speaker 2: a little voice in the back of my head that's
Speaker 2: telling me, do you remember a few years ago when
Speaker 2: you had a different list of external reasons why your
Speaker 2: life was going to get easier and those appeared and
Speaker 2: your life didn't actually get easier, And you know, maybe
Speaker 2: your life getting easier is a thing that takes place
Speaker 2: in your own brain. And I go, shut up, that's
Speaker 2: not true this time. And I believe this with vocal miction.
Speaker 2: And this is not a little I'm not saying this
Speaker 2: as like some kind of let wise lesson or whatever.
Speaker 2: I still believe. I have a fifty percent of my
Speaker 2: body that believes when I achieve these external circumstances, my
Speaker 2: life will get better and easier. And then a little
Speaker 2: voice goes but do you remember when you said that
Speaker 2: two years ago? And I think that little voice they
Speaker 2: might he might he might have a point, but he
Speaker 2: might also be full of shit. I didn't know. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 4: Hi, I'm at work right now.
Speaker 2: Actually, what is your name, Hayley? What do you What
Speaker 2: is your work, Hayley? What do you do?
Speaker 4: I work for a cleaning company that does commercial cleaning
Speaker 4: for I don't know if you've heard.
Speaker 2: Of Colar toilets, Coaler toilets. No, I've Normally, when I'm
Speaker 2: sitting on a toilet, I'm looking in the opposite direction
Speaker 2: that has the toilet's name on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's that's pretty fair. But I mean I guess,
Speaker 4: like you know, when you put the lid up, it's
Speaker 4: a little label like right right behind the lid right.
Speaker 2: Actually, I guess, Well, damn, I just accidentally revealed this.
Speaker 2: But I do I sit down when I pee almost,
Speaker 2: not like when it in any time I'm using a
Speaker 2: public restroom, I'll do a stand and be Actually that's
Speaker 2: not always true. Here's the problem is when I pee,
Speaker 2: the pee usually gets everywhere. And uh so, when I like,
Speaker 2: like almost every time, when I go to use a
Speaker 2: fucking urinal and I pee, when I when I you know,
Speaker 2: put put it put it back in my underwear, underwear,
Speaker 2: it gets like soggy because all the p didn't come out. Oh,
Speaker 2: my God, so like, so that's why I sit down
Speaker 2: when I pee, because I just kind of know for
Speaker 2: a fact, you know, I can wipe afterwards with the
Speaker 2: piece of the piece of toilet paper and no, no,
Speaker 2: that's fair.
Speaker 4: Actually, I have an ex boyfriend that used to sit
Speaker 4: down all the time, and I actually respect that it
Speaker 4: leaves less of a mess. You know.
Speaker 2: Cool, I'm fine, all right, you know what, Uh, thank you, Hailey.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you giving us uh sit down peers the
Speaker 2: respect that we deserve because I think for a long
Speaker 2: time it was seen as uh immasculine, but I think
Speaker 2: it's I've as I've explained to you, it's quite masculine
Speaker 2: and strategic as well. It's like I'm like a war
Speaker 2: general coming up with a plan of some kind.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure, you're thinking about the janitors without even
Speaker 4: thinking about the janitors, you know.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not thinking about the janitors at all. I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about my sagga.
Speaker 4: I know you're I'm saying you're considering them without considering them,
Speaker 4: but yeah, no.
Speaker 2: It's a purely sell fishing. You're trying. You're trying to
Speaker 2: make it like I know, but you're trying. You're trying
Speaker 2: to make it seem like I sit down when I
Speaker 2: pee for the greater good and I'm not excitted.
Speaker 4: No, but you could twist it that way if you want.
Speaker 2: You could, and you know what, I will. I think
Speaker 2: I am. I sit down when ipee because I am
Speaker 2: very considerate of the bathroom workers.
Speaker 4: Yes, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: Uh what is it you wanted to talk about today?
Speaker 2: Because I assume it was not this?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I sent you like a billion texts like
Speaker 4: a like a weirdo. But I guess, like I don't know.
Speaker 4: I could talk about my work. I could talk about
Speaker 4: I just got my first apartment.
Speaker 2: That was really cool, very nice. Well, okay, of all
Speaker 2: the things, of all the things, what's the one that
Speaker 2: you would like to talk about and we can talk
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 4: Okay. I guess I was kind of thinking about uh
Speaker 4: oh shit, I'm like thinking now, I don't know. So yeah,
Speaker 4: like the thing that you said about life getting easier,
Speaker 4: I guess because I was I was listening while I
Speaker 4: was like working taking out garbage and stuff. But you know,
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of like give or take right,
Speaker 4: like it's never going to be just like oh, I
Speaker 4: like it is easier now, Like it just kind of
Speaker 4: eas easier sometimes and it's not other times. Like I
Speaker 4: don't know why. Same thing with like the happiness thing
Speaker 4: you talk about. It's like, I don't know why it's
Speaker 4: such a goal for so many people. I get it,
Speaker 4: but it's also like a feeling that just kind of passes,
Speaker 4: just like any other feeling, and it's I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's give some context, because I don't know where in
Speaker 2: the podcast I'll put this from in. Okay, so I
Speaker 2: guess what the fuck was I going to say? I
Speaker 2: guess I guess uh ah, fuck, I'm tripped up now.
Speaker 2: Uh well, what give me a specific thought?
Speaker 4: Okay, Like I had to grow up really really fast
Speaker 4: here not that long ago, because I got my first apartment,
Speaker 4: and you know, I had all my family to help
Speaker 4: me and stuff, but I don't drive. I moved out
Speaker 4: of the city that I live in, you know, like
Speaker 4: I had to rent a shampoo today, I had to
Speaker 4: get up early and then I had to go to work,
Speaker 4: and like I've keys in my house and like like
Speaker 4: things like that does make life feel a lot easier,
Speaker 4: kind of like you were saying earlier, like it makes
Speaker 4: it feel easier it doesn't always mean it's better, but
Speaker 4: it might make it like like it's taken off a
Speaker 4: lot on my shoulders. Like I used to live with
Speaker 4: my mom and she has you know, like dogs, and
Speaker 4: I have a six year old little brother and you know,
Speaker 4: sharing space with people is like do.
Speaker 2: You believe that your life has gotten Why do you
Speaker 2: think your life has gotten easier? Do you think that
Speaker 2: it and why do you think your life is un easier?
Speaker 2: And do you think it's because of some intentional action
Speaker 2: that you took to make it east?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it's a lot of like
Speaker 4: like literally just doing it, and like, I know it
Speaker 4: sounds so stupid because I've been stuck before where I'm
Speaker 4: like I can't, I can't do it. I just can't.
Speaker 4: And like, ultimately, at the end of the day, it
Speaker 4: is kind of an excuse in my opinion, Like there
Speaker 4: are some things that you can't get around or are
Speaker 4: hard to get around. But if you want to do it,
Speaker 4: do it. And if you want to fix it, fix it.
Speaker 2: If you want to do it, do it. If you
Speaker 2: want to fix it, fix it. I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think you're given some agency
Speaker 2: in life to fix your problems, you know, And like
Speaker 2: I said, though.
Speaker 4: It's different for everyone, like there are like that's the
Speaker 4: thing is, it's different for everybody.
Speaker 2: That's why I don't like saying that. I don't like
Speaker 2: saying that you're giving some agency problems because some because
Speaker 2: a lot of times you're not. But yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of times you're not. But like if if we're just playing,
Speaker 2: if we're like if we're going to make it like
Speaker 2: a math problem, if we're going to just calculate our odds, right, Like,
Speaker 2: if you believe that you can fix your problems, your
Speaker 2: odds of doing it are better than if you believe
Speaker 2: that you can't, regardless of whatever your external circumstances are.
Speaker 2: So that's true, but the odds are never going to
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent unless it's uh.
Speaker 4: But like I think unless you have like ten if
Speaker 4: you have ten millions, yeah, I think we all have
Speaker 4: to kind of make peace with that on a level
Speaker 4: at some point. Like there's this for example, at my work, okay, right,
Speaker 4: because it's Cohler Company. So like the owner of the company,
Speaker 4: I clean his office and everything. He's like a billionaire,
Speaker 4: and his receptionist just bitches at our company all the
Speaker 4: time for these little tiny things like spot glasses on
Speaker 4: the water glasses and like there was one fingerprint here,
Speaker 4: there's one little snibble on the ground. And it's like
Speaker 4: she probably has a fuck ton of money and like
Speaker 4: a mansion that she's living in, but she's taking it
Speaker 4: out on this like little cleaning company because she's just
Speaker 4: fucking unhappy. And it's like, you can always find ways
Speaker 4: to be unhappy, but you can always find ways to
Speaker 4: be happy too.
Speaker 2: It's true you can always. You can't, you really can't.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of some any problems that a
Speaker 2: billion dollars can't solve. You can't really buy. I guess
Speaker 2: you can't. I guess there's a lot of problems that
Speaker 2: a billion dollars can solve. There's like a ton that
Speaker 2: a billion dollars can solve. But I guess if you're
Speaker 2: like always pissed off all the time, purely having a
Speaker 2: billion dollars will not change whatever's in your brain.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Yeah, it's about kind of making peace with
Speaker 4: the sucky thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's a quote that I like, I don't know who
Speaker 2: said it, but it's something like the the mind can
Speaker 2: make a a hell of heaven and a heaven of hell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that before. It's good.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had to clean human shit?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm not as bad as some of the other janitor
Speaker 4: stories I've heard on here. But there's a factory I
Speaker 4: go to sometimes, and there's this one time. It was
Speaker 4: like hiked on on the back of the toilet and
Speaker 4: I was talking to my coworker, which was stupid, but
Speaker 4: I was like scrubbing it and my mouth was open,
Speaker 4: so I was talking and like a little sprits just
Speaker 4: got in my mouth and I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to kill myself now. Yes,
Speaker 4: wait at poop, yeah, poop.
Speaker 2: Water, Oh god, oh Jesus, oh my god.
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, No, it was no nasty. It's not
Speaker 4: sixteen an hour.
Speaker 2: Oh god, Oh my god. That's one of the most
Speaker 2: upsetting things I've heard someone say on here. Actually, oh
Speaker 2: oh for real people and yeah, and people have talked
Speaker 2: about like, you know, it's fucking horrible things, and that's yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean one janitor that said something about like
Speaker 4: kids like writing and poop on the walls. I think
Speaker 4: that's worth worse, honestly, because I actually have to talk about.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but that's that. I don't think that's I
Speaker 2: don't think that's it. Well, first of all, yeah, of
Speaker 2: course they're doing that. You know, I'm sure I was
Speaker 2: doing that when I was a kid. But no, but that,
Speaker 2: but you're getting a little spirits of it in your mouth.
Speaker 2: That's one of the words.
Speaker 4: That's horrible, okay, yeah, no, And that's pretty it's pretty foul.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to drink bleach. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, Well, honestly, I'm very inspired by the fact
Speaker 2: that you have continued to live life even after that experience.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna think about that next time I have
Speaker 2: a difficult experience. I'm gonna go, this lady got a
Speaker 2: little sprits of poop in her mouth, and she didn't
Speaker 2: kill herself, So I'm not going to either.
Speaker 4: I mean, think about people who eat ass.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be worse, right, no, because you can.
Speaker 4: Not everyone cleans.
Speaker 2: Not everyone cleans.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I've had guys just straight up going there
Speaker 4: without even asking. Oh Jesus, oh yeah, no, people don't care.
Speaker 5: It's gross.
Speaker 2: Was there anything else? Who I say to the people
Speaker 2: of the computer before we go?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, I'm really grateful for this experience. Experience
Speaker 4: by the way, Lyle, so thank you, and I just
Speaker 4: want everyone to enjoy life as much as they can,
Speaker 4: try not to ruminate on the shitty things, and eat
Speaker 4: lots of tasty, good food.
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Thank you for calling, ma'am.
Speaker 4: You're welcome, man, Thank you so much for this opportunity.
Speaker 2: Is there right? Does anyone else sit down? Will ape
Speaker 2: an any others sit down? Peers? But listen to this
Speaker 2: show because I think it's a perfectly respectable way to
Speaker 2: go about life. A friend of the show, I'll call
Speaker 2: him Tim Heidecker, who appeared on an episode I think,
Speaker 2: uh one or two years ago, year and a half ago,
Speaker 2: something like that. Uh, Tim, Tim and Eric they have
Speaker 2: a song called I Sit Down When I Pee. It
Speaker 2: goes something like I sit down when I pee. There's
Speaker 2: nothing that crazy about me. I'm just taking a whiz.
Speaker 2: Mind your own biz. What does everybody keep staring at me? And?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: I think those were those were poetic words? Hello, Hi, Hi,
Speaker 2: what is your name?
Speaker 3: You need?
Speaker 2: Sntario Santiago? What's going on? Where you call him from? Sir?
Speaker 3: I'm going to yeah.
Speaker 2: From where.
Speaker 3: Colombia South America.
Speaker 2: Oh, very cool. What's going on down there?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Not much, you know, just chilling watching stream.
Speaker 2: Cool cool, very cool, very sick, very awesome, very nice.
Speaker 2: How can I get you today, Sir Santiago? What's uh,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind? What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think there's like a lot
Speaker 3: because my life has been pretty eventful over a little
Speaker 3: these last two years, so I wouldn't know like where.
Speaker 2: To start, seem start anywhere, all right.
Speaker 3: So turns out like now, I told you I am
Speaker 3: coming from Colombia. But I moved to the US like
Speaker 3: two years almost three years ago, and I lived there
Speaker 3: for like two years, and it was one of the
Speaker 3: most fucked up experience so.
Speaker 2: Far living in Living in the US was one of
Speaker 2: the most fucked up experiences you've had so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fucking wild.
Speaker 2: Tell me why?
Speaker 3: All right? So I moved there, and initially, since I
Speaker 3: lived here, I didn't have a home there. So when
Speaker 3: I moved there, we were supposed to be this thing
Speaker 3: with a friend of my dad who was supposed to
Speaker 3: you know, receive me, helped me. I was going to
Speaker 3: finish high school there because at that time I was
Speaker 3: I think I was sixteen or something or so, I
Speaker 3: don't remember well. So you know, everything was like a
Speaker 3: really cool plan, trying to say that I will finish
Speaker 3: high school there, go to college there, and he was
Speaker 3: supposed to like, uh not like you drop me, like
Speaker 3: be my new guardian, because I was going to stay
Speaker 3: with him by myself, like my parents will be back
Speaker 3: here in Columbia. And it turns out the dude was
Speaker 3: like a piece of shit and he like made me
Speaker 3: one of the worst months of my life because he
Speaker 3: was extremely narcissistic person and he ended up being like
Speaker 3: a crazy religious man.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so he moved to the US, and like
Speaker 2: the plan was, You're gonna stay with this guy, and
Speaker 2: then he turned out to be crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because basically at first everything was like looking fine because
Speaker 3: he was like really friendly and he'll had like you know,
Speaker 3: his own family, and we were all like getting along.
Speaker 3: But then with time he started being like more like
Speaker 3: intrusive in my life because I mean he was really
Speaker 3: really used Christian, but I'm not an't I'm not I
Speaker 3: don't believe in God. He sort of like a little kid,
Speaker 3: but the guy was like really really into it and
Speaker 3: he started like trying to I mean, I would go
Speaker 3: home and just try to sleep after a day of
Speaker 3: working going to school, and he would like start like
Speaker 3: preaching me about God and how he I mean he
Speaker 3: was also from Columbia, and he told me that one time,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that one time he helped like a guy
Speaker 3: that he is now two be like a better person,
Speaker 3: and that he converted him to a god a person,
Speaker 3: and he wanted to do the same with me because
Speaker 3: he thought us like that I was like a evil
Speaker 3: or something. Because he tried to take me to church
Speaker 3: and do all kinds of stuff because I I usually
Speaker 3: wear all black. I don't wear anything else than that
Speaker 3: that isn't black. So he used and for no specific reasons,
Speaker 3: but he used to think that was like an evil thing,
Speaker 3: that I was like the devil or something. So he
Speaker 3: like try to talk to me saying things like that
Speaker 3: I should you know, worship God. And he will say
Speaker 3: like evolution is stupid, and he will like talk to
Speaker 3: me like you think we come from monkeys. I don't
Speaker 3: think so I don't look like him, do I? And
Speaker 3: that can stupid ship to the point where he ended
Speaker 3: up like telling me that he used to cheat on
Speaker 3: his wife, but God changed him and he spent three
Speaker 3: and third days without eating drinking and even that was
Speaker 3: he went to the bedroom and pete after no drinking
Speaker 3: for three days, so he thought there was a proof
Speaker 3: of God existence and carrying water while he was at leap.
Speaker 2: That is that is extremely funny. Okay. One second, man,
Speaker 2: are you are you like doing it your fun You
Speaker 2: keep like cutting out a little bit. I don't know
Speaker 2: if the chat can hear that, but can is you?
Speaker 2: Are you like doing anything weird with your phone, like
Speaker 2: holding it in a weird way, or are you on
Speaker 2: like headphones or anything like that.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just on the phone normally. But I
Speaker 3: think it might be because of the distance, because you know,
Speaker 3: I'm here in Colombia and maybe the long distance college
Speaker 3: maybe sucking up.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, anyway, that that is pretty funny that he
Speaker 2: thought that God was making him piss. Yeah, And he
Speaker 2: told us that that would be kind of that would
Speaker 2: be kind of like if he was like if like
Speaker 2: he came while he was flaccid, you know, and then
Speaker 2: he was like God, uh gave me ropes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of something like that. I Mean,
Speaker 3: he would go on and tell us about how he
Speaker 3: would cheer his wife with multiple people. But then one
Speaker 3: day he felt like he had a devil in him
Speaker 3: and after doing that, he felt was really from the levil,
Speaker 3: so he became a better person. And it was so
Speaker 3: obvious that he was just trying to deflect the guild
Speaker 3: of being a cheater into trying to justify it with
Speaker 3: a demon being inside him, and it just like I
Speaker 3: think it probably started just like a lie, and he
Speaker 3: believed it so much that he started like using to
Speaker 3: convert other people.
Speaker 2: M So, how long did you live with this guy?
Speaker 3: I think I lived with him for six months and
Speaker 3: in the end I was supposed to stay by myself there,
Speaker 3: but luckily, and I don't know what I would have
Speaker 3: done if this didn't happen, but my mom ended up
Speaker 3: staying with me because she didn't like trust the guy.
Speaker 3: She didn't he didn't look like good pipes to her,
Speaker 3: so she stayed with me for a while. And after
Speaker 3: doing all that, like it wasn't only with the crazy
Speaker 3: religious things, he will also be like really like he
Speaker 3: will be a bad person intentionally, but like try to
Speaker 3: these guys. It so we were living okay, so we
Speaker 3: thought we're going to live, you know, in a The
Speaker 3: guy was a big liar, so he told us he
Speaker 3: was living in a because that he was living you know,
Speaker 3: the American dream. So we felt like comfortable living with
Speaker 3: him because we thought we were going to have like
Speaker 3: a decent place. But it turns out that the guy
Speaker 3: was living in an apartment that was for he has
Speaker 3: like two bedrooms, and it was nine of us there
Speaker 3: because it was me and all of his family. He
Speaker 3: had three daughters, his wife, his mom, and his aunt.
Speaker 3: So it was like nine people living in a two
Speaker 3: bedroom government. So it was fucked up because we will
Speaker 3: sleep in like those I don't know how it's called,
Speaker 3: like those beds that you bump air into them.
Speaker 2: And we were sleeping like in air mattresses.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, an air mattress, and we were like
Speaker 3: sleeping in the I don't know, it's like next to
Speaker 3: the place where you did I forgot, I'm sorry, the kitchen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we were. We were like sleeping next to the kitchen.
Speaker 3: And we didn't have like no privacy or like anything.
Speaker 3: I only had like a little closet space for my clothes.
Speaker 3: I will have my air mattress and like a night's
Speaker 3: time and that was it, and I didn't have like
Speaker 3: any privacy because next to the kitchen and next to
Speaker 3: the couch. So he was like, I don't know. Uh,
Speaker 3: if I had school the next marine and I had
Speaker 3: to wake up early, he will stay like really really
Speaker 3: really with the television, like extremely wild, just to not
Speaker 3: let me sleep. Or he will like hit two small
Speaker 3: daughters and they will leave like all day and they
Speaker 3: didn't like give their give them food, so I will
Speaker 3: have to cook for them, or they'll buy food and
Speaker 3: hide it from us, so they weren't like really fucked
Speaker 3: up stuff.
Speaker 2: Have you ever played Grand Theft Auto four?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 2: This is kind of like the plot of Grand Theft
Speaker 2: Auto four, although it's not exactly the plot of Grand
Speaker 2: Theft Autal four, but it's like, I mean, you like
Speaker 2: the plot of Grand Theft Tootal four is like, Uh,
Speaker 2: Nico Beleck's cousin, He's like, Yo, come to America, stay
Speaker 2: with me. I'm living large. I got a mansion, I
Speaker 2: got a billion dollars. Uh, life in America is sick.
Speaker 2: And then he gets there and it's like, oh shitty.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like that because you know, many
Speaker 3: people like outside the US, could you probably know this,
Speaker 3: but feel like the US as the American dream, like
Speaker 3: this place where you go and you, I don't know,
Speaker 3: get a lot of money, rich and you just improved
Speaker 3: your life out of Maui by just being there. But
Speaker 3: actually for me was the complete opposite, because I'm not
Speaker 3: that I'm living here in Colombia. I was never rich
Speaker 3: here nor like, like me a lot of money. But
Speaker 3: I used to live like a you know, a pretty
Speaker 3: normal life. I had my own room, I used to
Speaker 3: go to school, everything, But it was like such a
Speaker 3: down grade, like I went from having my own room,
Speaker 3: my own bed, like living in a kitchen in an
Speaker 3: air mattress with nothing else than that. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess it was kind of like that.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I was actually I was thinking
Speaker 2: about this today. It's like why, I'm sure, like an
Speaker 2: actual I'm sure there that like somebody who's familiar with
Speaker 2: like socioeconomics and stuff could give an actual explanation to
Speaker 2: this shit. But like I guess I do kind of
Speaker 2: wonder it's like why, yeah, like why did your family
Speaker 2: think that things would be better in America? Because I
Speaker 2: guess you're like America is like way more fucking expensive
Speaker 2: I assume than Yeahlumbia. So like if you move from
Speaker 2: Colombia to America, it just seems like everything's going to
Speaker 2: be like more expensive and more annoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for us, it started when I mean
Speaker 3: we didn't have plan, We didn't plan to like stay
Speaker 3: living there because we were just like on vacation. But
Speaker 3: then we met like a lady that was from her
Speaker 3: saint country that was working in one of the places
Speaker 3: we went to visit when we were doing tourism, and
Speaker 3: she started like talking with my own like saying she
Speaker 3: used to be a lawyer she in Colombia, and she
Speaker 3: was like a train driver for like a kids sitting
Speaker 3: in a park in the US. And she was telling
Speaker 3: her like, oh that she lived a better life driving
Speaker 3: a train for kids in the US than being a
Speaker 3: liar in Colombia. So my mom had like this really
Speaker 3: idea of like, oh, yeah, that's that's possible. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can stay here. So she got into that idea
Speaker 3: of like things were going to be better there, but
Speaker 3: they actually weren't. Like a lot of people think that
Speaker 3: even though America is more expensive. At the same time,
Speaker 3: did you like Earman Morning, Because I mean just say
Speaker 3: better there. So it's kind of like the balance thing.
Speaker 3: But I don't know many people like to do that.
Speaker 3: And I didn't even like believe in the American realm
Speaker 3: at first, Like they didn't even want to leave in
Speaker 3: the US, like, oh yeah, I'm going to leave in
Speaker 3: the US and it's going to be like in the movies.
Speaker 3: But I ended up like being absorbed by that too
Speaker 3: without knowing.
Speaker 2: So did you ever get out of that that house?
Speaker 2: And like where, like where are you at? I mean
Speaker 2: you're in Columbia, So I guess so you left that
Speaker 2: guy's house and then like did you get anything? Did
Speaker 2: you get like a better situation? I were you just
Speaker 2: like all right, this guy's house sucks. I'm going back
Speaker 2: to Columbia.
Speaker 3: And that was actually worse. That's that's why I said,
Speaker 3: like this, those two years were pretty eventful because there
Speaker 3: were those were just the first six months, and so
Speaker 3: during those six months turns out like a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff that was before that work in Boldlare, Like my
Speaker 3: dad was supposed to help us with the rent, but
Speaker 3: he like disappeared for that time, so it was only
Speaker 3: my mom and me, and she was working in a hotel,
Speaker 3: like doing the planning to be able to pay the
Speaker 3: billius and I was working at store electring store, so
Speaker 3: we couldn't pay an apartment bar stuff, so we couldn't
Speaker 3: get out of there. It was like almost impossible because
Speaker 3: the rent was so high everywhere, and they also require
Speaker 3: like you know, credit history and a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: that we didn't have, so she was almost impossible to
Speaker 3: move out of there. And in the end we ended
Speaker 3: up being so desperate of like leaving this guy that
Speaker 3: we ended up living in a hotel for a few months.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So when did you When did you go back to Columbia.
Speaker 3: I came back in December last year, because yeah, after
Speaker 3: all that foot up stuff, we went to the hotel.
Speaker 3: We lived there for a few months. Then things like
Speaker 3: we got a little better. We started living in a
Speaker 3: basement so that that we weren'ted, but things were like
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't happy, especially with school there. I
Speaker 3: don't know what your then, what your opinion is from
Speaker 3: school in the US, but for me, it absolutely sucked.
Speaker 3: I didn't I couldn't stand like being living there and
Speaker 3: going to school there. So I was desperate for coming
Speaker 3: back and I begged my mom to let me go back,
Speaker 3: like I will tell her that I would buy the
Speaker 3: point ticket for myself, that I would work for it,
Speaker 3: that I just wanted to come back, and he didn't
Speaker 3: let me do it. So I I ended up like
Speaker 3: staying the like more time than I expected, and after
Speaker 3: working for a long time, I was able to like,
Speaker 3: you know, save up and I made up my mind
Speaker 3: to come back, and I ended up coming back December
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 2: How's it been since you've gotten back.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It's didn't kindtast because the people
Speaker 3: that I knew. I mean, when when I left from Columbia,
Speaker 3: I was still in high school, so I had, you know,
Speaker 3: my friends, my school everything. But now when I came back,
Speaker 3: I mean I particularly lost contact with all those people.
Speaker 3: So I was kind of like by myself. And at
Speaker 3: the same time, I was like kind of lost because
Speaker 3: the plan here is to build college, but I didn't
Speaker 3: know where to start what you and yeah, I was
Speaker 3: like we lost After all that, now I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get into college. But then it like it's really hard
Speaker 3: because I had take an extent. That's what my big
Speaker 3: hardest in the country. So I'm really worried that I
Speaker 3: min not pass.
Speaker 2: Hm, that's crazy, man, that's crazy. Yeah. I guess I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, I get I I yeah,
Speaker 2: I was, like I said, I was thinking about I
Speaker 2: guess why people come Why, Like, you know, people have
Speaker 2: always been trying to come to America for a better life,
Speaker 2: and like if actually I mean, we talked to a
Speaker 2: dude who came uh to America from like El Salvador,
Speaker 2: and like it was chill for a while and then
Speaker 2: he was like, oh wait, it actually kind of sucks
Speaker 2: and then he went back there. But uh, I don't know,
Speaker 2: there could be some reason I guess why people keep
Speaker 2: trying to come to America. It's definitely not but I
Speaker 2: guess I like why, like why America, Like there's a
Speaker 2: I don't know, like fucking what about like see things
Speaker 2: things seem pretty cool in a fucking Germany or Italy
Speaker 2: or France. You know, I guess I guess why America.
Speaker 2: America seems kind of like it sucks.
Speaker 3: I guess America's sure because you know, I think also
Speaker 3: because of the location. I mean, the US is streamly
Speaker 3: big and between the states, there's so many differences that
Speaker 3: you can it's kind of like be in a different
Speaker 3: concrete in our state, Durian or that's how it looks
Speaker 3: like to me since I'm not from there, while in
Speaker 3: our countries it's maybe like almost the same everywhere. So
Speaker 3: maybe the US had like more variety when it comes
Speaker 3: to places depending on the state during.
Speaker 2: Mhmm. Well, well, thanks for sharing your story about all
Speaker 2: this stuff. Man, I'm sorry that the American dream was
Speaker 2: not what what what it presented itself be. Do you
Speaker 2: have like a an ultimate like goal with your with
Speaker 2: your life? I mean it's not kind of young. How
Speaker 2: old are you?
Speaker 3: I'm twenty?
Speaker 2: Okay, what's your what's your ultimate dream here?
Speaker 3: And I guess I guess it's going to college right now.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to and I always always had that goal.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the reason. That's that's the main reason
Speaker 3: why I came back to go to college here.
Speaker 2: M hm uh. And then how do you what do
Speaker 2: you like do you have to take an exam? How
Speaker 2: do you study for this exam?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, it's really hard. I had to
Speaker 3: say like a bunch of classes because it's like one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty questions exam. But it's one of the
Speaker 3: top colleges of the country, so they can ask you
Speaker 3: literally about like anything, anything that you could they could
Speaker 3: ask you. So I've been like taking many tests and
Speaker 3: it's like really hard to bet, like out of the
Speaker 3: I don't know, thirty thousand people that uh take Big
Speaker 3: Sam for one semester, I'll be like three hundred or
Speaker 3: so people can pack. So it's like Jesus heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's I mean, the fact that
Speaker 2: they're like, all right, we're gonna give you one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty questions about whatever, man and you just have
Speaker 2: to figure it out. That's insane. I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they have they able to have like
Speaker 3: a different areas that the astream, like math or physics
Speaker 3: or stuff like that. But in the stuff they can
Speaker 3: ask you, like anything, they can ask you from I
Speaker 3: don't know, uh, chemistry to knowing the anatomy of the
Speaker 3: heart of a fucking fuck or I get goo.
Speaker 2: Well, if you need to study the anatomy of a gecko, Uh,
Speaker 2: I actually can't help you because I'm just a guy
Speaker 2: in a gecko suit and if you cut me open,
Speaker 2: you'd see like a bunch of human ship. But from
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's helpful to you. But
Speaker 2: I have a friend who is in med school and
Speaker 2: he like cuts people open and stuff. And he told
Speaker 2: me that the human body is just a bunch of tubes.
Speaker 2: So if that's one of the questions you should have,
Speaker 2: like what's inside the human body? Uh? Just right, just
Speaker 2: you should circle the answer that says tubes.
Speaker 3: But what if from being the gecko suit so long,
Speaker 3: your anatomy has changed. I don't know. I think we
Speaker 3: have to maybe check it. I think we have to
Speaker 3: open you man.
Speaker 2: Oh my, all right, this is this call has officially
Speaker 2: gone too far.
Speaker 3: It's name of science. You don't want to improve the
Speaker 3: studies and human gecko people?
Speaker 2: You know what? You know what I'll do? You know
Speaker 2: what I'll do is when I die, here's what I'll
Speaker 2: do for you. So what's your name again, Santiago. Here's
Speaker 2: what I'll do for your Santiago. If you ever decide
Speaker 2: that you do on a to a career in the
Speaker 2: medical industry, I will pledge that when I die, you
Speaker 2: may have my body to dissect for your research.
Speaker 3: S arety sure that if to call you in five
Speaker 3: years from now and as you hate you, remember your
Speaker 3: promise of hitting your gig a body to say.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm only twenty six
Speaker 2: years old, all right, I'm not I haven't been. I mean,
Speaker 2: I could die in the next five years. Who knows. Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: Sorry what we're saying, Yeah, I'm just saying, if you
Speaker 3: if you do this promise, you have plushed your body
Speaker 3: to Gecko sayings, so you have to actually do it.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna actually do it and stuff. When
Speaker 2: I die, I want I want to. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I want them to do with me when I die.
Speaker 2: I guess just I guess do I guess I'm dead,
Speaker 2: I guess you get Who gives a fuck? You can
Speaker 2: just now I'll get buried. You don't have to like
Speaker 2: freeze me or anything. I can just but but I
Speaker 2: don't want to be buried in a cough and I
Speaker 2: want to just be thrown into the ground. You know,
Speaker 2: I feel like coffins kind of fuck you up, because
Speaker 2: like you want to be you want to be You
Speaker 2: want to be buried right into the ground so that
Speaker 2: you can like grow into a flower and ship like that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, you can become a tree after to day.
Speaker 2: Really, okay, I want to do that. That sounds awesome.
Speaker 2: It sounds way better than being a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I take a product where they take your body and
Speaker 3: they put it like in the brown. I don't know
Speaker 3: how it exactly it works, but you end up like
Speaker 3: being the seat for a tree and it grows from
Speaker 3: your body.
Speaker 2: So maybe, all right, I formally retract my offer to you, Santiago,
Speaker 2: and I replace it with a desire to become a tree.
Speaker 3: So you will be a geka tree and you will
Speaker 3: grow gekas from your leaves.
Speaker 2: I think you're ready for this test, huh, I said,
Speaker 2: I think you're ready for this test. You've showed a
Speaker 2: great amount of knowledge on a on on trees and geckos.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, if the Christians are really big, I think
Speaker 3: it probably is it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else? Is there anything else you want
Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe even if foxed Up happens, if
Speaker 3: you learn from it, maybe it's not that bad. I mean,
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, everything that happens, if
Speaker 3: it gives you acknowledge or something that can help you
Speaker 3: avoid those chitty situations again. Maybe it was worth living it,
Speaker 3: even though it seems shitty at the time.
Speaker 2: Santiago. I hope when I die that you will visit
Speaker 2: my tree and take of my geckos.
Speaker 3: Hopefully I will do hopefully in a long time and
Speaker 3: not too soon.
Speaker 2: Have a good night, Santiago.
Speaker 3: All right, man, you.
Speaker 2: Two can geckos grow on trees.
Speaker 3: All from bars Hie.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Hey, what's your name? I'm Lee?
Speaker 1: Lee?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: Lee?
Speaker 2: How can I get you today?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: My goodness, I got a lot going on Tomorrow. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna ask my roommate if she can leave, and I'm
Speaker 5: very nervous. I am not a confrontational person at all,
Speaker 5: and just so my partner can move in.
Speaker 2: You're gonna ask your roommate if they can leave so
Speaker 2: your partner can move in? Yes, uh, okay, tell me,
Speaker 2: is it like what is it a two bedroom? One bedroom?
Speaker 5: It's a two bedroom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you're gonna ask your roommate to leave. Do
Speaker 2: you have any like grounds to do that?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: I was in the apartment first, and then she moved in.
Speaker 5: I was been here for about a year before she
Speaker 5: moved in, so it's my second year here. Basically, I
Speaker 5: mean it's kind of my place, and she just rents
Speaker 5: room in there. There's I mean, we're both on the lease.
Speaker 2: So, oh do you want it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I don't. So you were just there first.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and her name's on the lease, yeah, both of
Speaker 5: our names.
Speaker 2: Is when did when does the lease expire? When does
Speaker 2: the lease renew?
Speaker 5: Well, it ended in Well we renewed it in July.
Speaker 5: But it's kind of a just more of like a
Speaker 5: come and go type of thing. Is just we sign
Speaker 5: a new lease if someone else wants to move in.
Speaker 2: So like she's not on the hook for like, she's
Speaker 2: not gonna have to Well I guess she wouldn't because
Speaker 2: you could find us some letter. But like, but hold on,
Speaker 2: So I guess I still don't understand how you have
Speaker 2: the grounds to tell her that she has to leave.
Speaker 5: No, I'm not I'm not asking. I'm gonna ask her
Speaker 5: to leave. I'm not telling her to leave. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: request if she can find a new place, you know,
Speaker 5: give her own time to leave. I'm just very nervous
Speaker 5: about that.
Speaker 2: Why don't why don't you find a new place.
Speaker 5: It's I'm I'm in a pretty big city and it's
Speaker 5: a really, really good rent for a two bedroom, and
Speaker 5: I don't think I would be able to.
Speaker 3: Afford another place for that.
Speaker 2: Do you do you think she'll be able to do that?
Speaker 5: She's definitely in a better spot just because she's just
Speaker 5: looking for a one bedroom and I know she has
Speaker 5: a lot of connects in the city.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's probably way better.
Speaker 5: She's probably in a better spot than I am.
Speaker 2: All right, what do you think she's going to say
Speaker 2: when you ask her to leave?
Speaker 5: I don't know. We're the type of roommates where we
Speaker 5: don't really talk aside from just the interactions we have
Speaker 5: when in like the communal area. She's a very nice person,
Speaker 5: which is why I really don't want to do it,
Speaker 5: But it's something that I, you know, I would desire
Speaker 5: the outcome for.
Speaker 3: I guess, can I can?
Speaker 2: I be very honest with you, Yeah, it it really
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like you have any grounds to ask her
Speaker 2: to leave.
Speaker 5: I guess you're right. That's and that's why I'm nervous.
Speaker 5: I And it's more of just she she can say no,
Speaker 5: like and that's my whole thing, and just kind of
Speaker 5: shooting my shot. And if she says no, then I
Speaker 5: I guess, you know, I'll have to look for my
Speaker 5: own place.
Speaker 3: I'm not kicking her.
Speaker 2: Out, Okay, I mean, yes, you don't have any grounds
Speaker 2: to kick her out. I guess you know what, Okay,
Speaker 2: I guess theoretically, sure, if you can shoot your shot
Speaker 2: and ask her to leave, and if she says no,
Speaker 2: deal with the answer. I guess. I guess theoretically you
Speaker 2: can do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it does. I mean it doesn't. There's no
Speaker 2: incentive for her to leave, I guess, other than no
Speaker 2: longer being in a place where her roommate doesn't want
Speaker 2: her there. But it doesn't sound like you guys even
Speaker 2: have that much interaction.
Speaker 5: No, No, I am, I'm very aware of that. I yeah,
Speaker 5: I just cause not going the way I guess it
Speaker 5: would have thought it would have gone.
Speaker 2: But if you're moving in with a partner, why don't
Speaker 2: you just go find a one bedroom? You'd probably be
Speaker 2: paying Yeah, I mean shit, if it's you and your partner,
Speaker 2: you'd probably be paying less than what you'd be paying
Speaker 2: at the place you're at right now. So why don't
Speaker 2: you just find a one bedroom?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, with current rates, I'm basically paying a lot less
Speaker 5: with the two bedroom than I would with a one
Speaker 5: bedroom letl on a studio. Where are you at I'm in.
Speaker 2: La, okay.
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: And would your partner pay rent?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: So are you interested in like sharing a room or
Speaker 2: a bed with your partner?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I mean we kind of he kind of already
Speaker 5: does that, and that's that's what I'm saying. Ideally we
Speaker 5: would like both bedrooms. But if that doesn't work out,
Speaker 5: then you know, that's life because I have really I
Speaker 5: obviously have no ground on it.
Speaker 3: You know, she pays rent, I pay rent. She has
Speaker 3: total right to say.
Speaker 2: No, which but so but your I guess what I
Speaker 2: don't understand is your if you were to leave and
Speaker 2: find a new find a one bedroom in LA and
Speaker 2: share that one bedroom with your partner, you'd probably pay
Speaker 2: less money than if you were sharing a two bedroom.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: Yes, and no, I'm paying like so to be upfront,
Speaker 5: I'm paying two thousand for or well total of two
Speaker 5: thousand for two bed, two baths. And that's how much
Speaker 5: of one at most a one bedroom.
Speaker 3: Is let alone a studio.
Speaker 2: You know that actually is not completely crazy, that that
Speaker 2: actually does not sound Yeah, that does not sound wild. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see, I can see. I can see a
Speaker 2: universe where a one bedroom and I can see a
Speaker 2: universe where the costs are negligible. Sure, why not?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I guess that's kind of why I want
Speaker 5: to shoot my shot, because I like this place. It's
Speaker 5: in a good location and it's dirt cheap, and I mean, obviously,
Speaker 5: if that doesn't work out, then yeah, that's that's how
Speaker 5: it's gonna work. You know, I'll have to do something else.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's because the situation right now for
Speaker 5: me with Rant is so cheap, as I guess that's
Speaker 5: why I even had the thought of even doing that,
Speaker 5: because I would I would never even think of the
Speaker 5: day where I would ask a roommate to leave, except
Speaker 5: for the certain current circumstances.
Speaker 2: Uh, I mean, like, I don't know, dude, I guess
Speaker 2: you I fucking I guess you can ask. But it's
Speaker 2: kinda there's it's kind I think it's kind of stupid,
Speaker 2: but I guess you can ask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5: And at the same time, it's going to make her uncomfortable,
Speaker 5: which is why I don't want to fucking do it.
Speaker 5: At the same time, which is why I'm currently in
Speaker 5: the still MA college.
Speaker 2: Are you asking me my advice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I've talked to people in my life
Speaker 5: and it's just kind of kind of got it mixed,
Speaker 5: uh signals.
Speaker 2: Okay, what the what are the people in your life
Speaker 2: tell you?
Speaker 5: So, my my dad told me, he was like, because
Speaker 5: I've had I've been in really bad roommate situations up
Speaker 5: to the point where I had to see an old
Speaker 5: roommate because they didn't pay their share of rent. And
Speaker 5: so he was like, do you finally have a good
Speaker 5: roommate And in the chances that you break up with
Speaker 5: your partner, you're gonna have to find another roommate, and
Speaker 5: chances are you could be in another bad situation. So
Speaker 5: it's like, you finally secured a good roommate, do you
Speaker 5: really want.
Speaker 2: To get rid of that? Okay? Yeah, but okay, look dude,
Speaker 2: if your heart is set on moving within with your partner,
Speaker 2: you should probably get a new place.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, definitely, And that's yeah, I definitely will look
Speaker 5: into that. But it's right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I would leave your roommate alone. Okay, thanks, gig,
Speaker 2: all right, anything else?
Speaker 3: Uh no, thanks for taking my call?
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