1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: All from Ruby. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: Hello? Hello, what is your name? 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: My name is Ruby? 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 2: What's up? Ruby? 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 3: What's up? 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: How can I get you today? What's what's happening? 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Shoot? I don't know. Life is crazy? Life. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do say that a lot. I do say 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: that a lot, and I fucking mean it with my 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: entire body every time. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: That I say it, I feel it with my entire No, 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: that sounds weird. Hmmm. Yeah, life is crazy. Have you 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: seen Do you have any texts, previous texts? 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: Do I have any previous texts from the past. 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tried to call him before. 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, uh no, no worry about it. Okay, 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: all right, do you have a thing you want to 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: talk about? 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, not particularly. Life is just crazy. The 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: last last couple of years been crazy. 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: How old are you reby? 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: I am nineteen? 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh why have the last few years been crazy? 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Well? Hm hmm. So I grew up Mormon, whole family 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: left Mormonism. That was pretty crazy. I had to go 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: through like treatment for like crazy uh eating disorder stuff. 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: That was pretty crazy. Anyway, it's just lots of crazy, 28 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: lots of change, and it's been like it's like the 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: most persistent thought has been like this is just sucks, 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: but like i'd write like it's weird. It's like I know, 31 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: it's like I know, uh, yes, there is the gecko guy. 32 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: My brother's in the room. Yeah, I don't know. It's 33 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: life is hard, and it's like I'm glad it happened, 34 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: but you know it's hard. 35 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: H Do you think it'll get any easier? 36 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so yeah, that's kind of what I want 37 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: to talk about. It's like that's what everybody says, but 38 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's like weird. 39 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: It's it's like and. 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: Then I okay, that's the thought. I'm finding the words. 41 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the word. Oh, it's just like yeah, 42 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: it's like I'm only nineteen yet, like everything feels so shit, 43 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 44 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting question. Will it get easier? That's 45 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: an interesting question. I don't like when people say it'll 46 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: get easier, as if that's like fucking I hate when 47 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: people say that because it's like that's not it's not guaranteed, 48 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: you know. It's like I don't like, uh, like, I mean, 49 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: I think you should. I I'm sure I've done this 50 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: a billion times in my life, so whatever, but I'm like, 51 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: you should probably not try not to promise things that 52 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: are not you can't fulfill, and so like it will 53 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: get easier just feels to me like like an empty promise, 54 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Not, by the way, not 55 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: not to say that the alternative, not to say that 56 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: everything will always will get worse. That's also that's equally 57 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: as much of a platitude. The truth is that you 58 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: kind of have no fucking idea, but you can. I 59 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: get you can do certain things with your life agency 60 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: two give yourself a better shot that things will get easier. 61 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: Life can take your agency and shove it up your 62 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: ass too, But that's kind of your it's kind of 63 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: your only option. I suppose what would what would things 64 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: look like if they got easier? 65 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's just like more routine. 66 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: I think that's I'm like formulating the words better now. 67 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: It's like life is just so like crazy, and it's 68 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: like I'm sure I can do things to make it easier, 69 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: but so hard to like find the motivation, you know 70 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, what. 71 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Do you attempt to get motivated to do? 72 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: Just like, I don't know, I feel like nothing about 73 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: my life lately is like like there's no routine like whatsoever. 74 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: I feel like, so it's hard to like. 75 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: You in college or you in college? Do you have 76 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: a job or something. 77 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm in community college. I'm in my last 78 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: semester actually, which is exciting. I'm also working, but it's 79 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: like I am like two classes and they're all on 80 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: different days at different times. And then my job is 81 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: like it's very isolated, and the hours like all over 82 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: the place. Yeah, so it's yeah, I don't. 83 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: Know what's what's the job. 84 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm a behavioral technician, So I work with adults with 85 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Down syndrome right now and like with like their treatment 86 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: plans and getting them socialized and like emotional regulation and 87 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: all that. 88 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: Why is that isolating? 89 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: Well, So, I mean I work one on one with 90 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: just one client right now, and so I'm like and 91 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: it's a really fulfilling job, and I feel like really 92 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: close to my client obviously, like within a prof sense. 93 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: But it's just like I'm with a twenty four year 94 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: old and he has like he's very low functioning. There's 95 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: like different levels, you know, high school. 96 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: I don't understand. 97 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: I understand, Yeah, and he just had like really bad regression, 98 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: and I like, I'm just with like this dude all day. 99 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't get you. 100 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: I get you, I get because it just you're one 101 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: on one. It's like you're wait, so you're a tell 102 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: me the job title again. 103 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm a behavioral technician okay, slash like personal assistance. Why 104 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: I work going on along with this guy and like 105 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: his family basically for a treatment. 106 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: So it's just you and this guy, Like I assume, 107 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: like is there not do you have like a boss. 108 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Who is also yeah, like so I work with his family. 109 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: I am like assigned by like an agency, but his 110 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: family is like like my boss basically his mom. Okay, 111 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: all right, so you're okay you like, I don't have 112 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: coworkers or anything. 113 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: You provide living care to this guy? Yeah yeah, okay, 114 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: yes that makes sense. No, I can definitely see how 115 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: how that could be, how that could be kind of 116 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: isolating for sure. Yeah, but that does sound rewarding how 117 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: I feel? Go ahead? Sorry? 118 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, no, you go ahead. 119 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh it's just gonna say I'm still thinking about whether 120 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: or not life gets easier. 121 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I was well it's sorry, go ahead. 122 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Oh I was gonna say, like it's interesting because it's like, 123 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that saying is very like 124 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: like life gets easier like you were saying, it's like, well, 125 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: that's not a good thing to like like bank on 126 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: because it's like it's been interesting just to see like 127 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: where me and my family have been at, like seeing 128 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: like them whole change. It's like leaving a freaking cold 129 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: and stuff too. It's like in their like seeing the 130 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: stuff they're going through. It's kind of like, no, it 131 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: doesn't get easier, but but it's like been really good 132 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: at the same time. 133 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: It's just yeah, like. 134 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: Like so when you when you are observing the lives 135 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: of like I guess your parents, and I guess of 136 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: like other people you know who are later in their 137 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: life journeys, have you observed it getting easier. 138 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: Like like yes and no, I feel like I feel 139 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: like it's like it's a harder but more rewarding, like 140 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: path I guess kind of like yeah, I don't know. 141 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: I just I feel like I do feel like lives 142 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: become a lot more like I don't know what we're 143 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: like colorful, I guess since like leaving and just also 144 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: just going through a lot of other stuff like I 145 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: don't know, I see things a lot differently, or like 146 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: I know different people now, like my parents. The changes 147 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: with my parents are so funny, Like they're different now 148 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: in our relationships different and it's awesome. And but like 149 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: we're at the same time, like we're all just like 150 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: really depressed, which is really funny. Well it's not funny, 151 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, it's just an interesting dichotomy. 152 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: I guess, do you know anyone else who left Mormonism 153 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: that's like one of your friends. 154 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: No, all my like good friends didn't really grow up 155 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: in it, but I can talk to them. I guess. 156 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: It's funny because like I live in like a smaller 157 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: town too, and so I like and I grew up 158 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of other kids, like in the congregation, 159 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: so I know a lot of them. And yeah, it's 160 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: that's it's been weird too, Like a lot of people 161 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: I've grown up with, I like see them like treat 162 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: me and my family differently now that we've left, and 163 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,239 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, oh, that was a superficial relationship. 164 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: I guess. 165 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just that kind of stuck. But 166 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: it's also like whatever, I guess. 167 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: I guess life gets a little easier in the sense 168 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: that I feel like as you get older, you uh, 169 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I mentioned that you have like a 170 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 2: little bit of agency to determine if your life is 171 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: gonna get easier, like, you know, a little bit whatever 172 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: you got, uh, And I think you get I think 173 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: as you get older, you get a little bit more 174 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: of that agency. You you think, it's like a bell curve. 175 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: You get a little bit more of that agency. And 176 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: then once you turn uh, and then one, and then 177 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: once you get all your body starts to break down 178 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: forever until you die. And then then it just starts 179 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: to go. Your agency sits away, as your as your 180 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: ankles starts to decay, and you and then but then 181 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: you know what, I'll say this, I do believe that 182 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: life gets easier in the sense that eventually, yes, you die, 183 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: and that's the easiest thing ever. I had a debate. No, 184 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: I had a debate with someone. I had a debate 185 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: with This is fucked up. I shouldn't say any of this, 186 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: but I had a debate with someone. I might have 187 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: talked about this on the podcast already, but I told 188 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: somebody that I thought it would be easier to be 189 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: dead than being alive. And he then he strongly disagreed 190 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: with me because he said, because he said that it's 191 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: not he said that it isn't uh comparable, They're not 192 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: like being a lot. Being dead is not easy in 193 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: her heart, it's not even anything. So to say it's 194 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,239 Speaker 2: easy it's false because something that's not not even existing 195 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: can't be easier hard. It can't be anything it's not existing. 196 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: But I did I don't it's a fair argument that 197 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: he made, But I don't know if I agree with it. 198 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: But I mean, like, yeah, I don't know, but well, 199 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 200 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 2: I'm glad we could. I'm glad we could reach that conclusion. 201 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: It gets interesting, it gets more interesting, it gets more interesting. 202 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: Actually, I disagree with that too. I don't think that's inherent. 203 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: I don't think that's uh, it can, I'll say, I'll 204 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: say it absolutely. I believe with one hundred percent certainty 205 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: that it can get more interesting. I don't believe with 206 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: one hundred percent certainty that it does automatically. But I 207 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: agree with you that it can. 208 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: Yes, that's fair. Yeah, semi semi adult stage of life 209 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: is interesting. 210 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: I guess how do you, uh, how do you feel 211 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,359 Speaker 2: about this conversation? 212 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: It's okay. I was kind of surprised that I'm here, 213 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: but so my bad. 214 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: Don't you have nothing to apologize for? 215 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well cool, thank you sir, of course. 216 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: Is is there anything else you want to say to 217 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go? 218 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: No? 219 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: Well, what did you use? Hold on? Don't tell me 220 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: I want to hold on. Don't say a fucking word 221 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: hold on. Uh No, I'm sorry. I don't remember your name? 222 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: What was it? Oh Man? 223 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Ruby? 224 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: Ruby? 225 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: Uh? 226 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling Ruby, Thank you? 227 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. 228 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't remember any anyone's name. What 229 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: does life get easier? 230 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: Uh? 231 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: I I don't know. I've been thinking about that. I've 232 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: been thinking about whether or not life gets easier for 233 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: some people it does? Uh, I don't know. I very 234 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: much have been wondering with myself if life if the 235 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: idea that at some point in the future, I have 236 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: a strong like, Okay, I have a very strong belief 237 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: that at some point in the future my life will 238 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: get easier. I'm strong on a personal level. I believe 239 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: that my life will get easier in the future. And 240 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: I've kind of compiled a little handful of external reasons 241 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: as to why I believe that is the case. And 242 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: I've taken these external reasons and I've examined them, and 243 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: I'll go, because of these things, at a certain point 244 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: in the future, my life will get easier. And a 245 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: strong part of me believes that. But then I have 246 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: a little voice in the back of my head that's 247 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: telling me, do you remember a few years ago when 248 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: you had a different list of external reasons why your 249 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: life was going to get easier and those appeared and 250 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: your life didn't actually get easier, And you know, maybe 251 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: your life getting easier is a thing that takes place 252 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: in your own brain. And I go, shut up, that's 253 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: not true this time. And I believe this with vocal miction. 254 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: And this is not a little I'm not saying this 255 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: as like some kind of let wise lesson or whatever. 256 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: I still believe. I have a fifty percent of my 257 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: body that believes when I achieve these external circumstances, my 258 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: life will get better and easier. And then a little 259 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: voice goes but do you remember when you said that 260 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: two years ago? And I think that little voice they 261 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: might he might he might have a point, but he 262 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: might also be full of shit. I didn't know. Hello, Hello, 263 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: what's going on? 264 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: Hi, I'm at work right now. 265 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: Actually, what is your name, Hayley? What do you What 266 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: is your work, Hayley? What do you do? 267 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: I work for a cleaning company that does commercial cleaning 268 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: for I don't know if you've heard. 269 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: Of Colar toilets, Coaler toilets. No, I've Normally, when I'm 270 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: sitting on a toilet, I'm looking in the opposite direction 271 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: that has the toilet's name on it. 272 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's that's pretty fair. But I mean I guess, 273 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: like you know, when you put the lid up, it's 274 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: a little label like right right behind the lid right. 275 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: Actually, I guess, Well, damn, I just accidentally revealed this. 276 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: But I do I sit down when I pee almost, 277 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: not like when it in any time I'm using a 278 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: public restroom, I'll do a stand and be Actually that's 279 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: not always true. Here's the problem is when I pee, 280 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: the pee usually gets everywhere. And uh so, when I like, 281 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: like almost every time, when I go to use a 282 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: fucking urinal and I pee, when I when I you know, 283 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: put put it put it back in my underwear, underwear, 284 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: it gets like soggy because all the p didn't come out. Oh, 285 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: my God, so like, so that's why I sit down 286 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: when I pee, because I just kind of know for 287 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: a fact, you know, I can wipe afterwards with the 288 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: piece of the piece of toilet paper and no, no, 289 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: that's fair. 290 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: Actually, I have an ex boyfriend that used to sit 291 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: down all the time, and I actually respect that it 292 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 4: leaves less of a mess. You know. 293 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: Cool, I'm fine, all right, you know what, Uh, thank you, Hailey. 294 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate you giving us uh sit down peers the 295 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: respect that we deserve because I think for a long 296 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: time it was seen as uh immasculine, but I think 297 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: it's I've as I've explained to you, it's quite masculine 298 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: and strategic as well. It's like I'm like a war 299 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: general coming up with a plan of some kind. 300 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure, you're thinking about the janitors without even 301 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: thinking about the janitors, you know. 302 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: No, I'm not thinking about the janitors at all. I'm thinking 303 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: about my sagga. 304 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 4: I know you're I'm saying you're considering them without considering them, 305 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: but yeah, no. 306 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: It's a purely sell fishing. You're trying. You're trying to 307 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: make it like I know, but you're trying. You're trying 308 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: to make it seem like I sit down when I 309 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 2: pee for the greater good and I'm not excitted. 310 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: No, but you could twist it that way if you want. 311 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: You could, and you know what, I will. I think 312 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: I am. I sit down when ipee because I am 313 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: very considerate of the bathroom workers. 314 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 4: Yes, there you go, there you go. 315 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: Uh what is it you wanted to talk about today? 316 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: Because I assume it was not this? 317 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I sent you like a billion texts like 318 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: a like a weirdo. But I guess, like I don't know. 319 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 4: I could talk about my work. I could talk about 320 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 4: I just got my first apartment. 321 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: That was really cool, very nice. Well, okay, of all 322 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: the things, of all the things, what's the one that 323 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: you would like to talk about and we can talk 324 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: about that? 325 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: Okay. I guess I was kind of thinking about uh 326 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: oh shit, I'm like thinking now, I don't know. So yeah, 327 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: like the thing that you said about life getting easier, 328 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 4: I guess because I was I was listening while I 329 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: was like working taking out garbage and stuff. But you know, 330 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of like give or take right, 331 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: like it's never going to be just like oh, I 332 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 4: like it is easier now, Like it just kind of 333 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: eas easier sometimes and it's not other times. Like I 334 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 4: don't know why. Same thing with like the happiness thing 335 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: you talk about. It's like, I don't know why it's 336 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 4: such a goal for so many people. I get it, 337 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: but it's also like a feeling that just kind of passes, 338 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 4: just like any other feeling, and it's I don't know. 339 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: Let's give some context, because I don't know where in 340 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: the podcast I'll put this from in. Okay, so I 341 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: guess what the fuck was I going to say? I 342 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: guess I guess uh ah, fuck, I'm tripped up now. 343 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: Uh well, what give me a specific thought? 344 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: Okay, Like I had to grow up really really fast 345 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: here not that long ago, because I got my first apartment, 346 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: and you know, I had all my family to help 347 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 4: me and stuff, but I don't drive. I moved out 348 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: of the city that I live in, you know, like 349 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: I had to rent a shampoo today, I had to 350 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: get up early and then I had to go to work, 351 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: and like I've keys in my house and like like 352 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 4: things like that does make life feel a lot easier, 353 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: kind of like you were saying earlier, like it makes 354 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 4: it feel easier it doesn't always mean it's better, but 355 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: it might make it like like it's taken off a 356 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 4: lot on my shoulders. Like I used to live with 357 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 4: my mom and she has you know, like dogs, and 358 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: I have a six year old little brother and you know, 359 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: sharing space with people is like do. 360 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 2: You believe that your life has gotten Why do you 361 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 2: think your life has gotten easier? Do you think that 362 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: it and why do you think your life is un easier? 363 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: And do you think it's because of some intentional action 364 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: that you took to make it east? 365 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it's a lot of like 366 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 4: like literally just doing it, and like, I know it 367 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 4: sounds so stupid because I've been stuck before where I'm 368 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 4: like I can't, I can't do it. I just can't. 369 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 4: And like, ultimately, at the end of the day, it 370 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: is kind of an excuse in my opinion, Like there 371 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 4: are some things that you can't get around or are 372 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: hard to get around. But if you want to do it, 373 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 4: do it. And if you want to fix it, fix it. 374 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: If you want to do it, do it. If you 375 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: want to fix it, fix it. I agree with that. 376 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think you're given some agency 377 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: in life to fix your problems, you know, And like 378 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: I said, though. 379 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: It's different for everyone, like there are like that's the 380 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: thing is, it's different for everybody. 381 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: That's why I don't like saying that. I don't like 382 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: saying that you're giving some agency problems because some because 383 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: a lot of times you're not. But yeah, a lot 384 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: of times you're not. But like if if we're just playing, 385 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: if we're like if we're going to make it like 386 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: a math problem, if we're going to just calculate our odds, right, Like, 387 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: if you believe that you can fix your problems, your 388 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: odds of doing it are better than if you believe 389 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: that you can't, regardless of whatever your external circumstances are. 390 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: So that's true, but the odds are never going to 391 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 2: be one hundred percent unless it's uh. 392 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 4: But like I think unless you have like ten if 393 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: you have ten millions, yeah, I think we all have 394 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: to kind of make peace with that on a level 395 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: at some point. Like there's this for example, at my work, okay, right, 396 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: because it's Cohler Company. So like the owner of the company, 397 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: I clean his office and everything. He's like a billionaire, 398 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: and his receptionist just bitches at our company all the 399 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 4: time for these little tiny things like spot glasses on 400 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: the water glasses and like there was one fingerprint here, 401 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: there's one little snibble on the ground. And it's like 402 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: she probably has a fuck ton of money and like 403 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 4: a mansion that she's living in, but she's taking it 404 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 4: out on this like little cleaning company because she's just 405 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 4: fucking unhappy. And it's like, you can always find ways 406 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: to be unhappy, but you can always find ways to 407 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: be happy too. 408 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: It's true you can always. You can't, you really can't. 409 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of some any problems that a 410 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: billion dollars can't solve. You can't really buy. I guess 411 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: you can't. I guess there's a lot of problems that 412 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: a billion dollars can solve. There's like a ton that 413 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: a billion dollars can solve. But I guess if you're 414 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: like always pissed off all the time, purely having a 415 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: billion dollars will not change whatever's in your brain. 416 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Yeah, it's about kind of making peace with 417 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: the sucky thing. 418 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 419 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 420 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: There's a quote that I like, I don't know who 421 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: said it, but it's something like the the mind can 422 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: make a a hell of heaven and a heaven of hell. 423 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that before. It's good. 424 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: Have you ever had to clean human shit? 425 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 426 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 4: I'm not as bad as some of the other janitor 427 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 4: stories I've heard on here. But there's a factory I 428 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: go to sometimes, and there's this one time. It was 429 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 4: like hiked on on the back of the toilet and 430 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: I was talking to my coworker, which was stupid, but 431 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: I was like scrubbing it and my mouth was open, 432 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: so I was talking and like a little sprits just 433 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 4: got in my mouth and I was like, oh, oh, 434 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to kill myself now. Yes, 435 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 4: wait at poop, yeah, poop. 436 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: Water, Oh god, oh Jesus, oh my god. 437 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, No, it was no nasty. It's not 438 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: sixteen an hour. 439 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: Oh god, Oh my god. That's one of the most 440 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: upsetting things I've heard someone say on here. Actually, oh 441 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: oh for real people and yeah, and people have talked 442 00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: about like, you know, it's fucking horrible things, and that's yeah. 443 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean one janitor that said something about like 444 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 4: kids like writing and poop on the walls. I think 445 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 4: that's worth worse, honestly, because I actually have to talk about. 446 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but that's that. I don't think that's I 447 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: don't think that's it. Well, first of all, yeah, of 448 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: course they're doing that. You know, I'm sure I was 449 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: doing that when I was a kid. But no, but that, 450 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: but you're getting a little spirits of it in your mouth. 451 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: That's one of the words. 452 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: That's horrible, okay, yeah, no, And that's pretty it's pretty foul. 453 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 454 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to drink bleach. Yeah. 455 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: Well yeah, Well, honestly, I'm very inspired by the fact 456 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: that you have continued to live life even after that experience. 457 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna think about that next time I have 458 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: a difficult experience. I'm gonna go, this lady got a 459 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: little sprits of poop in her mouth, and she didn't 460 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: kill herself, So I'm not going to either. 461 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 4: I mean, think about people who eat ass. 462 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: It's gotta be worse, right, no, because you can. 463 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: Not everyone cleans. 464 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: Not everyone cleans. 465 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 4: Oh no, I've had guys just straight up going there 466 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 4: without even asking. Oh Jesus, oh yeah, no, people don't care. 467 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 5: It's gross. 468 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Was there anything else? Who I say to the people 469 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: of the computer before we go? 470 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Uh? 471 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, I'm really grateful for this experience. Experience 472 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 4: by the way, Lyle, so thank you, and I just 473 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 4: want everyone to enjoy life as much as they can, 474 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: try not to ruminate on the shitty things, and eat 475 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 4: lots of tasty, good food. 476 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: Beautiful. Thank you for calling, ma'am. 477 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: You're welcome, man, Thank you so much for this opportunity. 478 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: Is there right? Does anyone else sit down? Will ape 479 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: an any others sit down? Peers? But listen to this 480 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: show because I think it's a perfectly respectable way to 481 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: go about life. A friend of the show, I'll call 482 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: him Tim Heidecker, who appeared on an episode I think, 483 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: uh one or two years ago, year and a half ago, 484 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: something like that. Uh, Tim, Tim and Eric they have 485 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: a song called I Sit Down When I Pee. It 486 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: goes something like I sit down when I pee. There's 487 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: nothing that crazy about me. I'm just taking a whiz. 488 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: Mind your own biz. What does everybody keep staring at me? And? 489 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Uh? 490 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: I think those were those were poetic words? Hello, Hi, Hi, 491 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: what is your name? 492 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: You need? 493 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: Sntario Santiago? What's going on? Where you call him from? Sir? 494 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to yeah. 495 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: From where. 496 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: Colombia South America. 497 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: Oh, very cool. What's going on down there? 498 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: Uh? 499 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: Not much, you know, just chilling watching stream. 500 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: Cool cool, very cool, very sick, very awesome, very nice. 501 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 2: How can I get you today, Sir Santiago? What's uh, 502 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 2: what's on your mind? What do you want to talk about? 503 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think there's like a lot 504 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: because my life has been pretty eventful over a little 505 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: these last two years, so I wouldn't know like where. 506 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: To start, seem start anywhere, all right. 507 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: So turns out like now, I told you I am 508 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: coming from Colombia. But I moved to the US like 509 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: two years almost three years ago, and I lived there 510 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: for like two years, and it was one of the 511 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: most fucked up experience so. 512 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: Far living in Living in the US was one of 513 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: the most fucked up experiences you've had so far. 514 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fucking wild. 515 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: Tell me why? 516 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: All right? So I moved there, and initially, since I 517 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: lived here, I didn't have a home there. So when 518 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: I moved there, we were supposed to be this thing 519 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: with a friend of my dad who was supposed to 520 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 3: you know, receive me, helped me. I was going to 521 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: finish high school there because at that time I was 522 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: I think I was sixteen or something or so, I 523 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: don't remember well. So you know, everything was like a 524 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: really cool plan, trying to say that I will finish 525 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: high school there, go to college there, and he was 526 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: supposed to like, uh not like you drop me, like 527 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: be my new guardian, because I was going to stay 528 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: with him by myself, like my parents will be back 529 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: here in Columbia. And it turns out the dude was 530 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 3: like a piece of shit and he like made me 531 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: one of the worst months of my life because he 532 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: was extremely narcissistic person and he ended up being like 533 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: a crazy religious man. 534 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so he moved to the US, and like 535 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: the plan was, You're gonna stay with this guy, and 536 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: then he turned out to be crazy. 537 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 538 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 539 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: Because basically at first everything was like looking fine because 540 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: he was like really friendly and he'll had like you know, 541 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: his own family, and we were all like getting along. 542 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: But then with time he started being like more like 543 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: intrusive in my life because I mean he was really 544 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: really used Christian, but I'm not an't I'm not I 545 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: don't believe in God. He sort of like a little kid, 546 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: but the guy was like really really into it and 547 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: he started like trying to I mean, I would go 548 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: home and just try to sleep after a day of 549 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: working going to school, and he would like start like 550 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: preaching me about God and how he I mean he 551 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: was also from Columbia, and he told me that one time, 552 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that one time he helped like a guy 553 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: that he is now two be like a better person, 554 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: and that he converted him to a god a person, 555 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: and he wanted to do the same with me because 556 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: he thought us like that I was like a evil 557 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: or something. Because he tried to take me to church 558 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: and do all kinds of stuff because I I usually 559 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: wear all black. I don't wear anything else than that 560 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: that isn't black. So he used and for no specific reasons, 561 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: but he used to think that was like an evil thing, 562 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: that I was like the devil or something. So he 563 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: like try to talk to me saying things like that 564 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: I should you know, worship God. And he will say 565 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: like evolution is stupid, and he will like talk to 566 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: me like you think we come from monkeys. I don't 567 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: think so I don't look like him, do I? And 568 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: that can stupid ship to the point where he ended 569 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: up like telling me that he used to cheat on 570 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: his wife, but God changed him and he spent three 571 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: and third days without eating drinking and even that was 572 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: he went to the bedroom and pete after no drinking 573 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: for three days, so he thought there was a proof 574 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: of God existence and carrying water while he was at leap. 575 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: That is that is extremely funny. Okay. One second, man, 576 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: are you are you like doing it your fun You 577 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: keep like cutting out a little bit. I don't know 578 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: if the chat can hear that, but can is you? 579 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: Are you like doing anything weird with your phone, like 580 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: holding it in a weird way, or are you on 581 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: like headphones or anything like that. 582 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just on the phone normally. But I 583 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: think it might be because of the distance, because you know, 584 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm here in Colombia and maybe the long distance college 585 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 3: maybe sucking up. 586 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: Okay, well, anyway, that that is pretty funny that he 587 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: thought that God was making him piss. Yeah, And he 588 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: told us that that would be kind of that would 589 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: be kind of like if he was like if like 590 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: he came while he was flaccid, you know, and then 591 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: he was like God, uh gave me ropes. 592 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of something like that. I Mean, 593 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 3: he would go on and tell us about how he 594 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: would cheer his wife with multiple people. But then one 595 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: day he felt like he had a devil in him 596 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: and after doing that, he felt was really from the levil, 597 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: so he became a better person. And it was so 598 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 3: obvious that he was just trying to deflect the guild 599 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: of being a cheater into trying to justify it with 600 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: a demon being inside him, and it just like I 601 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: think it probably started just like a lie, and he 602 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: believed it so much that he started like using to 603 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: convert other people. 604 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: M So, how long did you live with this guy? 605 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: I think I lived with him for six months and 606 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 3: in the end I was supposed to stay by myself there, 607 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: but luckily, and I don't know what I would have 608 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: done if this didn't happen, but my mom ended up 609 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: staying with me because she didn't like trust the guy. 610 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: She didn't he didn't look like good pipes to her, 611 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: so she stayed with me for a while. And after 612 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: doing all that, like it wasn't only with the crazy 613 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: religious things, he will also be like really like he 614 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 3: will be a bad person intentionally, but like try to 615 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: these guys. It so we were living okay, so we 616 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: thought we're going to live, you know, in a The 617 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: guy was a big liar, so he told us he 618 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: was living in a because that he was living you know, 619 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: the American dream. So we felt like comfortable living with 620 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: him because we thought we were going to have like 621 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: a decent place. But it turns out that the guy 622 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 3: was living in an apartment that was for he has 623 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 3: like two bedrooms, and it was nine of us there 624 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: because it was me and all of his family. He 625 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: had three daughters, his wife, his mom, and his aunt. 626 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: So it was like nine people living in a two 627 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 3: bedroom government. So it was fucked up because we will 628 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: sleep in like those I don't know how it's called, 629 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: like those beds that you bump air into them. 630 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: And we were sleeping like in air mattresses. 631 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, an air mattress, and we were like 632 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 3: sleeping in the I don't know, it's like next to 633 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: the place where you did I forgot, I'm sorry, the kitchen. Yeah, 634 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 3: we were. We were like sleeping next to the kitchen. 635 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: And we didn't have like no privacy or like anything. 636 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: I only had like a little closet space for my clothes. 637 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 3: I will have my air mattress and like a night's 638 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 3: time and that was it, and I didn't have like 639 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 3: any privacy because next to the kitchen and next to 640 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 3: the couch. So he was like, I don't know. Uh, 641 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 3: if I had school the next marine and I had 642 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: to wake up early, he will stay like really really 643 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: really with the television, like extremely wild, just to not 644 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: let me sleep. Or he will like hit two small 645 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: daughters and they will leave like all day and they 646 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 3: didn't like give their give them food, so I will 647 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 3: have to cook for them, or they'll buy food and 648 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: hide it from us, so they weren't like really fucked 649 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: up stuff. 650 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 2: Have you ever played Grand Theft Auto four? 651 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 652 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 5: I have. 653 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: This is kind of like the plot of Grand Theft 654 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: Auto four, although it's not exactly the plot of Grand 655 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: Theft Autal four, but it's like, I mean, you like 656 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: the plot of Grand Theft Tootal four is like, Uh, 657 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: Nico Beleck's cousin, He's like, Yo, come to America, stay 658 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 2: with me. I'm living large. I got a mansion, I 659 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: got a billion dollars. Uh, life in America is sick. 660 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: And then he gets there and it's like, oh shitty. 661 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 662 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 3: It was kind of like that because you know, many 663 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: people like outside the US, could you probably know this, 664 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: but feel like the US as the American dream, like 665 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 3: this place where you go and you, I don't know, 666 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 3: get a lot of money, rich and you just improved 667 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: your life out of Maui by just being there. But 668 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 3: actually for me was the complete opposite, because I'm not 669 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: that I'm living here in Colombia. I was never rich 670 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: here nor like, like me a lot of money. But 671 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 3: I used to live like a you know, a pretty 672 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 3: normal life. I had my own room, I used to 673 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 3: go to school, everything, But it was like such a 674 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 3: down grade, like I went from having my own room, 675 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 3: my own bed, like living in a kitchen in an 676 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 3: air mattress with nothing else than that. So yeah, yeah, 677 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 3: I guess it was kind of like that. 678 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I was actually I was thinking 679 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: about this today. It's like why, I'm sure, like an 680 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 2: actual I'm sure there that like somebody who's familiar with 681 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 2: like socioeconomics and stuff could give an actual explanation to 682 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: this shit. But like I guess I do kind of 683 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: wonder it's like why, yeah, like why did your family 684 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: think that things would be better in America? Because I 685 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: guess you're like America is like way more fucking expensive 686 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 2: I assume than Yeahlumbia. So like if you move from 687 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 2: Colombia to America, it just seems like everything's going to 688 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: be like more expensive and more annoying. 689 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for us, it started when I mean 690 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: we didn't have plan, We didn't plan to like stay 691 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: living there because we were just like on vacation. But 692 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 3: then we met like a lady that was from her 693 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: saint country that was working in one of the places 694 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 3: we went to visit when we were doing tourism, and 695 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 3: she started like talking with my own like saying she 696 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 3: used to be a lawyer she in Colombia, and she 697 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: was like a train driver for like a kids sitting 698 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: in a park in the US. And she was telling 699 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 3: her like, oh that she lived a better life driving 700 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 3: a train for kids in the US than being a 701 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 3: liar in Colombia. So my mom had like this really 702 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 3: idea of like, oh, yeah, that's that's possible. I mean, 703 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 3: I can stay here. So she got into that idea 704 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: of like things were going to be better there, but 705 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 3: they actually weren't. Like a lot of people think that 706 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: even though America is more expensive. At the same time, 707 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 3: did you like Earman Morning, Because I mean just say 708 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: better there. So it's kind of like the balance thing. 709 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 3: But I don't know many people like to do that. 710 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: And I didn't even like believe in the American realm 711 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: at first, Like they didn't even want to leave in 712 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: the US, like, oh yeah, I'm going to leave in 713 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: the US and it's going to be like in the movies. 714 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: But I ended up like being absorbed by that too 715 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: without knowing. 716 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 2: So did you ever get out of that that house? 717 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 2: And like where, like where are you at? I mean 718 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: you're in Columbia, So I guess so you left that 719 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: guy's house and then like did you get anything? Did 720 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 2: you get like a better situation? I were you just 721 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: like all right, this guy's house sucks. I'm going back 722 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 2: to Columbia. 723 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 3: And that was actually worse. That's that's why I said, 724 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 3: like this, those two years were pretty eventful because there 725 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 3: were those were just the first six months, and so 726 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: during those six months turns out like a lot of 727 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 3: stuff that was before that work in Boldlare, Like my 728 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: dad was supposed to help us with the rent, but 729 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 3: he like disappeared for that time, so it was only 730 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 3: my mom and me, and she was working in a hotel, 731 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: like doing the planning to be able to pay the 732 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 3: billius and I was working at store electring store, so 733 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: we couldn't pay an apartment bar stuff, so we couldn't 734 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 3: get out of there. It was like almost impossible because 735 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 3: the rent was so high everywhere, and they also require 736 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 3: like you know, credit history and a lot of stuff 737 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 3: that we didn't have, so she was almost impossible to 738 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 3: move out of there. And in the end we ended 739 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 3: up being so desperate of like leaving this guy that 740 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 3: we ended up living in a hotel for a few months. 741 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 742 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 2: So when did you When did you go back to Columbia. 743 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 3: I came back in December last year, because yeah, after 744 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 3: all that foot up stuff, we went to the hotel. 745 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 3: We lived there for a few months. Then things like 746 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 3: we got a little better. We started living in a 747 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 3: basement so that that we weren'ted, but things were like 748 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't happy, especially with school there. I 749 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 3: don't know what your then, what your opinion is from 750 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 3: school in the US, but for me, it absolutely sucked. 751 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 3: I didn't I couldn't stand like being living there and 752 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 3: going to school there. So I was desperate for coming 753 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 3: back and I begged my mom to let me go back, 754 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 3: like I will tell her that I would buy the 755 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 3: point ticket for myself, that I would work for it, 756 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 3: that I just wanted to come back, and he didn't 757 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: let me do it. So I I ended up like 758 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 3: staying the like more time than I expected, and after 759 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: working for a long time, I was able to like, 760 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 3: you know, save up and I made up my mind 761 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 3: to come back, and I ended up coming back December 762 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: last year. 763 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 2: How's it been since you've gotten back. 764 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It's didn't kindtast because the people 765 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 3: that I knew. I mean, when when I left from Columbia, 766 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 3: I was still in high school, so I had, you know, 767 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 3: my friends, my school everything. But now when I came back, 768 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 3: I mean I particularly lost contact with all those people. 769 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 3: So I was kind of like by myself. And at 770 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 3: the same time, I was like kind of lost because 771 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 3: the plan here is to build college, but I didn't 772 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: know where to start what you and yeah, I was 773 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 3: like we lost After all that, now I'm trying to 774 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: get into college. But then it like it's really hard 775 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 3: because I had take an extent. That's what my big 776 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: hardest in the country. So I'm really worried that I 777 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: min not pass. 778 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 2: Hm, that's crazy, man, that's crazy. Yeah. I guess I 779 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, I get I I yeah, 780 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 2: I was, like I said, I was thinking about I 781 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: guess why people come Why, Like, you know, people have 782 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 2: always been trying to come to America for a better life, 783 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: and like if actually I mean, we talked to a 784 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 2: dude who came uh to America from like El Salvador, 785 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: and like it was chill for a while and then 786 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: he was like, oh wait, it actually kind of sucks 787 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: and then he went back there. But uh, I don't know, 788 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: there could be some reason I guess why people keep 789 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: trying to come to America. It's definitely not but I 790 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: guess I like why, like why America, Like there's a 791 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, like fucking what about like see things 792 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 2: things seem pretty cool in a fucking Germany or Italy 793 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: or France. You know, I guess I guess why America. 794 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: America seems kind of like it sucks. 795 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 3: I guess America's sure because you know, I think also 796 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 3: because of the location. I mean, the US is streamly 797 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 3: big and between the states, there's so many differences that 798 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 3: you can it's kind of like be in a different 799 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 3: concrete in our state, Durian or that's how it looks 800 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 3: like to me since I'm not from there, while in 801 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 3: our countries it's maybe like almost the same everywhere. So 802 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 3: maybe the US had like more variety when it comes 803 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 3: to places depending on the state during. 804 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: Mhmm. Well, well, thanks for sharing your story about all 805 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 2: this stuff. Man, I'm sorry that the American dream was 806 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: not what what what it presented itself be. Do you 807 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: have like a an ultimate like goal with your with 808 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 2: your life? I mean it's not kind of young. How 809 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 2: old are you? 810 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm twenty? 811 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 2: Okay, what's your what's your ultimate dream here? 812 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: And I guess I guess it's going to college right now. 813 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to and I always always had that goal. 814 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the reason. That's that's the main reason 815 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 3: why I came back to go to college here. 816 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 2: M hm uh. And then how do you what do 817 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 2: you like do you have to take an exam? How 818 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 2: do you study for this exam? 819 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, it's really hard. I had to 820 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 3: say like a bunch of classes because it's like one 821 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty questions exam. But it's one of the 822 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 3: top colleges of the country, so they can ask you 823 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 3: literally about like anything, anything that you could they could 824 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 3: ask you. So I've been like taking many tests and 825 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 3: it's like really hard to bet, like out of the 826 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, thirty thousand people that uh take Big 827 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 3: Sam for one semester, I'll be like three hundred or 828 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 3: so people can pack. So it's like Jesus heard. 829 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's I mean, the fact that 830 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: they're like, all right, we're gonna give you one hundred 831 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: and twenty questions about whatever, man and you just have 832 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: to figure it out. That's insane. I've never heard of that. 833 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they have they able to have like 834 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 3: a different areas that the astream, like math or physics 835 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 3: or stuff like that. But in the stuff they can 836 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 3: ask you, like anything, they can ask you from I 837 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 3: don't know, uh, chemistry to knowing the anatomy of the 838 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 3: heart of a fucking fuck or I get goo. 839 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: Well, if you need to study the anatomy of a gecko, Uh, 840 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 2: I actually can't help you because I'm just a guy 841 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 2: in a gecko suit and if you cut me open, 842 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 2: you'd see like a bunch of human ship. But from 843 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's helpful to you. But 844 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 2: I have a friend who is in med school and 845 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 2: he like cuts people open and stuff. And he told 846 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: me that the human body is just a bunch of tubes. 847 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 2: So if that's one of the questions you should have, 848 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 2: like what's inside the human body? Uh? Just right, just 849 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 2: you should circle the answer that says tubes. 850 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 3: But what if from being the gecko suit so long, 851 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 3: your anatomy has changed. I don't know. I think we 852 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 3: have to maybe check it. I think we have to 853 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 3: open you man. 854 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh my, all right, this is this call has officially 855 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 2: gone too far. 856 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 3: It's name of science. You don't want to improve the 857 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 3: studies and human gecko people? 858 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 2: You know what? You know what I'll do? You know 859 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 2: what I'll do is when I die, here's what I'll 860 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 2: do for you. So what's your name again, Santiago. Here's 861 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 2: what I'll do for your Santiago. If you ever decide 862 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: that you do on a to a career in the 863 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 2: medical industry, I will pledge that when I die, you 864 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: may have my body to dissect for your research. 865 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 3: S arety sure that if to call you in five 866 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 3: years from now and as you hate you, remember your 867 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,760 Speaker 3: promise of hitting your gig a body to say. 868 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm only twenty six 869 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 2: years old, all right, I'm not I haven't been. I mean, 870 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 2: I could die in the next five years. Who knows. Yeah, 871 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 2: go ahead. 872 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 3: Sorry what we're saying, Yeah, I'm just saying, if you 873 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 3: if you do this promise, you have plushed your body 874 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: to Gecko sayings, so you have to actually do it. 875 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna actually do it and stuff. When 876 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 2: I die, I want I want to. I don't know 877 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: what I want them to do with me when I die. 878 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 2: I guess just I guess do I guess I'm dead, 879 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: I guess you get Who gives a fuck? You can 880 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 2: just now I'll get buried. You don't have to like 881 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 2: freeze me or anything. I can just but but I 882 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 2: don't want to be buried in a cough and I 883 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 2: want to just be thrown into the ground. You know, 884 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 2: I feel like coffins kind of fuck you up, because 885 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: like you want to be you want to be You 886 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: want to be buried right into the ground so that 887 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 2: you can like grow into a flower and ship like that. 888 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 889 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 3: You know, you can become a tree after to day. 890 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: Really, okay, I want to do that. That sounds awesome. 891 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 2: It sounds way better than being a person. 892 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 893 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 3: I take a product where they take your body and 894 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 3: they put it like in the brown. I don't know 895 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 3: how it exactly it works, but you end up like 896 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 3: being the seat for a tree and it grows from 897 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 3: your body. 898 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 2: So maybe, all right, I formally retract my offer to you, Santiago, 899 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: and I replace it with a desire to become a tree. 900 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 3: So you will be a geka tree and you will 901 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 3: grow gekas from your leaves. 902 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 2: I think you're ready for this test, huh, I said, 903 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: I think you're ready for this test. You've showed a 904 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 2: great amount of knowledge on a on on trees and geckos. 905 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 906 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 3: I mean, if the Christians are really big, I think 907 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 3: it probably is it. Yeah. 908 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: Is there anything else? Is there anything else you want 909 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer before we go? 910 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe even if foxed Up happens, if 911 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 3: you learn from it, maybe it's not that bad. I mean, 912 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, everything that happens, if 913 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 3: it gives you acknowledge or something that can help you 914 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 3: avoid those chitty situations again. Maybe it was worth living it, 915 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 3: even though it seems shitty at the time. 916 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 2: Santiago. I hope when I die that you will visit 917 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 2: my tree and take of my geckos. 918 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 3: Hopefully I will do hopefully in a long time and 919 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 3: not too soon. 920 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 2: Have a good night, Santiago. 921 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 3: All right, man, you. 922 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 2: Two can geckos grow on trees. 923 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 3: All from bars Hie. 924 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Hey, what's your name? I'm Lee? 925 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: Lee? 926 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 2: What's up? 927 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 3: Lee? 928 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: How can I get you today? 929 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 3: Oh? 930 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 5: My goodness, I got a lot going on Tomorrow. I'm 931 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 5: gonna ask my roommate if she can leave, and I'm 932 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 5: very nervous. I am not a confrontational person at all, 933 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 5: and just so my partner can move in. 934 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna ask your roommate if they can leave so 935 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 2: your partner can move in? Yes, uh, okay, tell me, 936 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 2: is it like what is it a two bedroom? One bedroom? 937 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 5: It's a two bedroom. 938 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you're gonna ask your roommate to leave. Do 939 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 2: you have any like grounds to do that? 940 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: Well? 941 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 5: I was in the apartment first, and then she moved in. 942 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 5: I was been here for about a year before she 943 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 5: moved in, so it's my second year here. Basically, I 944 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 5: mean it's kind of my place, and she just rents 945 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 5: room in there. There's I mean, we're both on the lease. 946 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 2: So, oh do you want it? 947 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: No? 948 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 2: I don't. So you were just there first. 949 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and her name's on the lease, yeah, both of 950 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 5: our names. 951 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 2: Is when did when does the lease expire? When does 952 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 2: the lease renew? 953 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 5: Well, it ended in Well we renewed it in July. 954 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 5: But it's kind of a just more of like a 955 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 5: come and go type of thing. Is just we sign 956 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 5: a new lease if someone else wants to move in. 957 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 2: So like she's not on the hook for like, she's 958 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 2: not gonna have to Well I guess she wouldn't because 959 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 2: you could find us some letter. But like, but hold on, 960 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 2: So I guess I still don't understand how you have 961 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 2: the grounds to tell her that she has to leave. 962 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 5: No, I'm not I'm not asking. I'm gonna ask her 963 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 5: to leave. I'm not telling her to leave. I'm gonna 964 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 5: request if she can find a new place, you know, 965 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 5: give her own time to leave. I'm just very nervous 966 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 5: about that. 967 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 2: Why don't why don't you find a new place. 968 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 5: It's I'm I'm in a pretty big city and it's 969 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 5: a really, really good rent for a two bedroom, and 970 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 5: I don't think I would be able to. 971 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 3: Afford another place for that. 972 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 2: Do you do you think she'll be able to do that? 973 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 5: She's definitely in a better spot just because she's just 974 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 5: looking for a one bedroom and I know she has 975 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 5: a lot of connects in the city. 976 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's probably way better. 977 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 5: She's probably in a better spot than I am. 978 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 2: All right, what do you think she's going to say 979 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 2: when you ask her to leave? 980 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 5: I don't know. We're the type of roommates where we 981 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 5: don't really talk aside from just the interactions we have 982 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 5: when in like the communal area. She's a very nice person, 983 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 5: which is why I really don't want to do it, 984 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 5: But it's something that I, you know, I would desire 985 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 5: the outcome for. 986 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 3: I guess, can I can? 987 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 2: I be very honest with you, Yeah, it it really 988 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 2: doesn't sound like you have any grounds to ask her 989 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 2: to leave. 990 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 5: I guess you're right. That's and that's why I'm nervous. 991 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 5: I And it's more of just she she can say no, 992 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 5: like and that's my whole thing, and just kind of 993 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 5: shooting my shot. And if she says no, then I 994 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 5: I guess, you know, I'll have to look for my 995 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 5: own place. 996 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 3: I'm not kicking her. 997 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 2: Out, Okay, I mean, yes, you don't have any grounds 998 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 2: to kick her out. I guess you know what, Okay, 999 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 2: I guess theoretically, sure, if you can shoot your shot 1000 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 2: and ask her to leave, and if she says no, 1001 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 2: deal with the answer. I guess. I guess theoretically you 1002 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 2: can do that. 1003 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. 1004 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it does. I mean it doesn't. There's no 1005 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 2: incentive for her to leave, I guess, other than no 1006 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 2: longer being in a place where her roommate doesn't want 1007 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,919 Speaker 2: her there. But it doesn't sound like you guys even 1008 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 2: have that much interaction. 1009 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 5: No, No, I am, I'm very aware of that. I yeah, 1010 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 5: I just cause not going the way I guess it 1011 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,479 Speaker 5: would have thought it would have gone. 1012 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 2: But if you're moving in with a partner, why don't 1013 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 2: you just go find a one bedroom? You'd probably be 1014 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 2: paying Yeah, I mean shit, if it's you and your partner, 1015 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 2: you'd probably be paying less than what you'd be paying 1016 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 2: at the place you're at right now. So why don't 1017 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 2: you just find a one bedroom? 1018 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: No? 1019 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 5: No, with current rates, I'm basically paying a lot less 1020 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 5: with the two bedroom than I would with a one 1021 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 5: bedroom letl on a studio. Where are you at I'm in. 1022 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 2: La, okay. 1023 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: Is? 1024 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 2: And would your partner pay rent? 1025 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 1: Yes? 1026 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 2: So are you interested in like sharing a room or 1027 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 2: a bed with your partner? 1028 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1029 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 5: And I mean we kind of he kind of already 1030 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 5: does that, and that's that's what I'm saying. Ideally we 1031 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 5: would like both bedrooms. But if that doesn't work out, 1032 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 5: then you know, that's life because I have really I 1033 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 5: obviously have no ground on it. 1034 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 3: You know, she pays rent, I pay rent. She has 1035 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 3: total right to say. 1036 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 2: No, which but so but your I guess what I 1037 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: don't understand is your if you were to leave and 1038 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: find a new find a one bedroom in LA and 1039 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 2: share that one bedroom with your partner, you'd probably pay 1040 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,720 Speaker 2: less money than if you were sharing a two bedroom. 1041 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 1042 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 5: Yes, and no, I'm paying like so to be upfront, 1043 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 5: I'm paying two thousand for or well total of two 1044 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 5: thousand for two bed, two baths. And that's how much 1045 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 5: of one at most a one bedroom. 1046 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 3: Is let alone a studio. 1047 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: You know that actually is not completely crazy, that that 1048 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 2: actually does not sound Yeah, that does not sound wild. Yeah, 1049 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 2: I could see, I can see. I can see a 1050 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 2: universe where a one bedroom and I can see a 1051 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: universe where the costs are negligible. Sure, why not? 1052 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I guess that's kind of why I want 1053 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 5: to shoot my shot, because I like this place. It's 1054 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 5: in a good location and it's dirt cheap, and I mean, obviously, 1055 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 5: if that doesn't work out, then yeah, that's that's how 1056 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 5: it's gonna work. You know, I'll have to do something else. 1057 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 5: But you know, it's because the situation right now for 1058 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 5: me with Rant is so cheap, as I guess that's 1059 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 5: why I even had the thought of even doing that, 1060 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 5: because I would I would never even think of the 1061 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 5: day where I would ask a roommate to leave, except 1062 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 5: for the certain current circumstances. 1063 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 2: Uh, I mean, like, I don't know, dude, I guess 1064 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 2: you I fucking I guess you can ask. But it's 1065 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 2: kinda there's it's kind I think it's kind of stupid, 1066 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 2: but I guess you can ask. 1067 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 1068 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 5: And at the same time, it's going to make her uncomfortable, 1069 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 5: which is why I don't want to fucking do it. 1070 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 5: At the same time, which is why I'm currently in 1071 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 5: the still MA college. 1072 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 2: Are you asking me my advice. 1073 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I've talked to people in my life 1074 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 5: and it's just kind of kind of got it mixed, 1075 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 5: uh signals. 1076 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 2: Okay, what the what are the people in your life 1077 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 2: tell you? 1078 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 5: So, my my dad told me, he was like, because 1079 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 5: I've had I've been in really bad roommate situations up 1080 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,479 Speaker 5: to the point where I had to see an old 1081 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 5: roommate because they didn't pay their share of rent. And 1082 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 5: so he was like, do you finally have a good 1083 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 5: roommate And in the chances that you break up with 1084 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 5: your partner, you're gonna have to find another roommate, and 1085 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 5: chances are you could be in another bad situation. So 1086 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 5: it's like, you finally secured a good roommate, do you 1087 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 5: really want. 1088 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 2: To get rid of that? Okay? Yeah, but okay, look dude, 1089 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 2: if your heart is set on moving within with your partner, 1090 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,439 Speaker 2: you should probably get a new place. 1091 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, definitely, And that's yeah, I definitely will look 1092 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 5: into that. But it's right now. 1093 00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I would leave your roommate alone. Okay, thanks, gig, 1094 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 2: all right, anything else? 1095 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 3: Uh no, thanks for taking my call? 1096 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 2: All right, take care dog. See hello, folks, it's Lyle here. 1097 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 2: That's the end of this episode. But get this, I'm 1098 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 2: releasing a bonus episode this week. That's right, an entire 1099 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 2: extra hour of the podcast that you can listen to. 1100 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 2: By becoming a premium member of Therapy Gecko over at 1101 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 2: therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. 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