1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: And lining up one phase of the game only to 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: have another one glow up. Very much on brand for 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: this team. Welcome to North Side Territory, the Chicago Cubs 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: podcast on the Foul Territory Network. I am Patrick Mooney 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: and this is a special emergency episode after the worst 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: loss of the season so far. Now I am flying 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: solo here because my co host and Kyliet the Athletic 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma, I had to scramble into rewrite mode after 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Monday Night's devastating seven to six loss to the San 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Francisco Giants at Wrigley Field. That is only one game 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: of one sixty two. It's a long season. If you've 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: been paying attention, listening to any of the sound bites 13 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: out of the clubhouse or the interview room, or reading 14 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: our quotes in the Athletic Craig Council, Jed Hoyer, the players, 15 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: they're all saying the same thing. Long season, a lot 16 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: of time to turn things around, and they're right. They're 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: certainly not wrong. But this game embodied so much of 18 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: what has gone wrong so far. Now let's work backwards 19 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: from Hector Nerris and his blown save in the ninth inning. 20 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: It was a weird yet predictable sequence with the catcher's 21 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: interference by Miguel Maya, a nears walk, and then finally 22 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: the three run homer from Tyro Estrada that landed in 23 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: the leftfield bleachers. The Cubs are definitely feeling the heat 24 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: wave that has blanketed Chicago. I mean, the booze that 25 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: echoed out through the friendly confines were about as as 26 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: you're gonna get on a Monday night in the middle 27 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: of June. And honestly, sitting up in the press box 28 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: before that Estrada bat, a colleague turned to me and said, 29 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna blow this right, or jokingly said something like 30 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: there's no way they could blow this right. And I 31 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: think just about any Cubs fan who's been following along 32 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: this season it could not have been surprised by just 33 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: a gut punch loss that really left this team reeling. 34 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: They're now season high five games under five hundred, and 35 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: this one's done because the Cubs finally got a few 36 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: big hits and they rallied back and they created just 37 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a breathing room for a bullpen 38 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: that has been under duress really all season long. So 39 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: now let's here from Cubs manager Craig Council. You know, 40 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: who's finding out what life is like without the all 41 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: star closers he had in Milwaukee. You'll hear some hot 42 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: of his voice in the Wrigally interviewed your room, asking 43 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: about Naris and the closer situation moving forward. 44 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: We you know, we had an error on we had 45 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: the catcher's interference. We'll walk and you know, frankly, it's 46 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: a fly ball. You know it's the wrong night to 47 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: give up fly balls, and that's three runs. So you know, 48 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you've really asked me to 49 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: valued hector performance, the walk is is the only is 50 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 2: the only bad at bat. 51 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: I'm assuming when you say that, it's not a consideration. 52 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: You're moving from saving situations right now. 53 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Look, we got a bullpen. We gotta find guys to 54 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: get outs, and Hector has been a guy that's been 55 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: reliable for us, So I wouldn't anticipate doing that. I mean, 56 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna, you know, always examine every best way to 57 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: get twenty seven outs every I'm gonna. 58 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Have to be a part of that now. Early hours earlier, 59 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Cubs President of Baseball Operations Jed Hoyer met with the 60 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: media in the home dugout, which is something he normally 61 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: does just about every home stand in good times and bad. 62 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: And Hoyer, to his credit, might be the most accessible 63 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: sports executive in the city of Chicago. And Hoyer talked 64 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: about showing up to work every day, you know, hoping 65 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the game that turns things around, 66 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: sticking with the process, you know, expecting good things to happen. 67 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: And the Cubs did get a few breaks, and they 68 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: got home runs from Michael Bush and he and half, 69 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: but his team has been just out of sync for 70 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: a while now, and the roster overall is just kind 71 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: of disjointed and lining up one phase of the game, 72 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: I need to have another one blow up was just 73 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: very much on brand for this team. I mean, Ners 74 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: simply has to say that game. The bullpen overall has 75 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: to be better. You still can't expect them to be perfect. 76 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: And there's going to be a cost when every pitch 77 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: or seemingly every pitch is high stress. And that's on 78 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: an offense that Hoyer still believes in. This group is 79 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: largely his hand pick group, kind of the core that 80 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: he assembled to move forward, move out of that twenty 81 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: sixteen zone and if you listen to him, hear it 82 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: from himself and this is how he diagnoses the situation. 83 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: At this moment, this group. 84 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: Has kind of failed to produce for the last forty 85 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: six games. We had a really good offense last year, 86 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: We had a really good offensive April. Since then, we 87 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: have not hit period. And you know, no one player 88 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: is going to change that. We have to this collective 89 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: group has to figure this out. And like that doesn't 90 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: mean there won't be additions, but you know, the answers 91 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: have to come from from within. And I said, there's 92 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: no reason to believe this this group suddenly for we 93 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: got out of hit, but certainly it's been a longer, 94 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: longer downs bell than expected. I think everyone goes to 95 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: up Sinnadras season. This is a much longer, longer, longer 96 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: trough than we ever expected, and we have to get 97 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: out of it. You can't keep digging this hole, and 98 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: we can't keep the pressure we're putting on our pitching 99 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: staff and our bullpen at night in night out. I mean, 100 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: every every game seems to be you know, up one down, 101 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: one tide, you know, going into seven seventh dinning. This 102 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: is not you can't you can't. You can't win enough 103 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: that way. You just can't. 104 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Look, You're not gonna suddenly believe in the offense just 105 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: because the Cubs scored six runs in a loss. I 106 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: mean Logan web is lined up to start Tuesday night 107 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: opposite Justin Steele, So that may very well be another 108 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: low scoring repeat of the same game we've watched over 109 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and over and over again this season. So let's assume 110 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: the offense will be a priority upgrade this summer. Now, 111 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: how the Cubs perform over the next several weeks is vital. 112 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: It goes to how much prospect capital Hoyer is willing 113 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: to give up to supplement this largely underperforming group. It 114 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: also goes to how much money ownership is willing to 115 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: kick in to improve the team for a playoff push 116 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: and possibly push them over the luxury tax threshold. But 117 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: a catcher's interference and the ninth inning is a subtle 118 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: reminder of another area where the Cubs are among the 119 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: worst in baseball, and Nears is miscast as a closer. 120 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: He's a great dude in the clubhouse. He signed up 121 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: to be that veteran mentor to work as a setup guy. 122 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: In the seventh and eighth innings. I mean to be durable, 123 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: available and reliable and offer his significant World Series postseason 124 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: experience on some the hugest stages and biggest markets in 125 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: the game. He's mostly been what the Cubs hope for. 126 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: He's just not a lockdown ninth inning guy at this 127 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: stage of his career, not if you want to be 128 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: considered a serious October contender. So Hoyer's got a lot 129 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: of things to do between now and July thirtieth. But 130 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,359 Speaker 1: even if he desperately wanted to do it deal, like tomorrow, 131 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: is a trade store even open yet? I asked him 132 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: that question and got an answer that cups fans probably. 133 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear a different times like you explain. 134 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: I like, even if you desperately want to make a trade, 135 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: but tomorrow and the trades you are just is it open? 136 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Can you explain the factors and. 137 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: They take play? 138 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: It's still two things. I think a lot of teams 139 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: are not willing to make deals yet, you know, anythink, 140 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: especially when you look at the standings and throw a wildcard, 141 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams right around us. You know, 142 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: there's like you can look at that. You look at 143 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: the standings, to today, there's just a lot of teams 144 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: that are that are really close to a wildcard spot 145 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: or or you know, so that I think has changed it. 146 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: There's this fewer sellers. There's a lot of teams at 147 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: this point, always at this point that like it's not 148 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: going to make that decision yet. There's a few teams, 149 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: but there's not Manty and most teams was not willing 150 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: to make that decision today because there's a message to 151 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: the fans. You know, we're selling on June seventeenth. So 152 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: those are two factors. And the third factor is simply 153 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: like the teams that usually want to make trade right now, 154 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: they are willing to do it if you pay a 155 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: massive premium, which let's face it, most people say it's 156 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: so hard to do that. Yeah, you're doing something that's rational. 157 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: So asoul as they trademarks not open, it's just incredibly 158 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: difficult to make those kind of transactions on June and seventeenth. 159 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: And that those are some of the fact Teresa. The 160 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: Cubs are thirty four and thirty nine and in last 161 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: place in their division. They're already trailing the Brewers by 162 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: eight and a half games. A Brewers team, if you 163 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: hadn't noticed, let counsel walk and trade it away aside 164 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: on an award winner and still just keeps unrolling. They 165 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: have already lost or are losing season series tiebreakers to 166 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: wild card hopefuls that they're going to be going against 167 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I mean, this gut punch 168 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: loss is the one you look back on in October. 169 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: If the Cubs again missed the playoffs by one game, 170 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: and that for an organization that really rip the band 171 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: aid off at the twenty twenty one trade deadline, that 172 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: would be an absolute organizational failure. So thank you all 173 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: for listening. Thank you to the behind the scenes crew 174 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: at the Foul Territory Network. 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