1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: with you. Whenever there is a gun related issue or story, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: of course, we turned to doctor John Lott. He's the 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: president of the newly formed Crime Prevention Research Center. He's 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: an economist. He has held research and teaching positions at 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: the University of Chicago, Yale University, Stanford, UCLA, Wharton, and Rice. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: He was the chief economist at the United States Sentencing 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Commission during the nineteen eighty eight eighty nine period. And 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: he's been on Foxnews dot Com as well. Noted author 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: one of his books, More Guns, Less Crime. Bringing back 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: John Lot for a couple hours here on Coast to Coast, 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Hey John, welcome back. Great to talk to you, George. 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: You two, So gun sales down for the second year 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: in a row. Why we Actually, it's quite right. We 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: reached a peak of about twenty seven million background checks 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and it went down in twenty seventeen, 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: but it actually went up this last year by about 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: four percent, so it's almost the same. It's the second 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: highest year. Last year was the second highest number of 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: background checks that we've had. It's a little bit below. 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: It's about five percent below what it was in sixteen. 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: But twenty sixteen, with the election and stuff, a lot 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of people were very concerned that Hillary Clinton could win 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: the election and change completely the direction of the Supreme Court, 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: and I think the sales reflected that. But it really 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: hasn't changed very much. Some of the media they're calling 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: it the Trump gun slump. What is that? Oh? Look, 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: I think the media, in many different ways wants to 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: make it appear that people don't want to have guns 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: so much anywhere work. One example of how they do 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: this is they report polls that indicate that the percentage 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: of house owning guns has been declining. There's really only 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: one pole, it's called the General Social Survey by the 35 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: National Opinion Resource Corporation that has shown a drop, and 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: they show about thirty two percent of American households own 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: a gun. That's down from about over fifty percent a 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: few decades ago. But there are lots of other surveys 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: that show a different pattern. Last year, there are two 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: surveys that came out, one by the Wall Street Journal 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: NBC News, which showed about forty seven percent of American 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: households owned a gun and you had a few other 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: percent that refused to answer the question. And another one 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: by Monmouth University which showed about forty six percent of 45 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: households owned a gun and seven percent refused to do it. 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: And even those which are underestimating very likely the percent 47 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: of households that own guns. So I'll give you one 48 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: simple reason for that, and that is if you look 49 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: at married men and married women, married women say that 50 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: they own a gun in the home at about fifteen 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: percentage points less than married men do. That could be 52 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: that married men have a gun there and the wives 53 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: just don't know about it. And I suppose that's POSI right. 54 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: But another possibility is that women, when you have some 55 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: stranger that calls up, just are more reticent to go 56 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: and tell somebody whether they have a gun. And possibly 57 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: even more important is that these surveys usually aren't done 58 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: at the same time every year. They're invariably done after 59 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: you've had some type of mass public shooting. And so 60 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: it could be that women right when you're like in 61 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: a week or so, right after you know, the Parkland 62 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: shooting last year, which is when and the Wall st 63 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: Journal survey was done, might be more reticent than men, 64 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: simply because it's more controversial at that time with all 65 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: the news coverage to say that they have a gun 66 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: in the home. If you if you were to assume 67 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: that married women and Mary had guns in the home 68 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: at the same rate that married men do, you'd add 69 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: about seven percent or so onto gun ownership, and it 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: would indicate that more than half of American households had 71 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: a gun. You know, I've known you for years, John, 72 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: You are an advocate of responsible gun ownership. And I'm 73 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: sure you, as well as I cringe whenever some whack 74 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 1: job like Stephen Paddock shoots up a crowd of people 75 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: and you know, kills fifty eight people. I mean, that's 76 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: unheard of. But those those cases, even though they're dramatically 77 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: large when they happen, don't happen all the time. And 78 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: a lot of legislators use episode like that to try 79 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: to control gun ownership, don't they, right, Well, I mean 80 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: everyone wants to try to get rid of those things. 81 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: The question is what type of policies are going to 82 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: do it. I'll give you one example, since you bring 83 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: this up just less than two weeks ago, the Democrats 84 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: and Congress introduced the Gabby Gifford's Bill, named after the 85 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: congresswoman who was shot and wounded back in twenty eleven 86 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: and her the bill that was named after her is 87 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: going to impose background checks and all private transfers, the 88 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: sales as well as gifts or anything else. If father 89 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: gives a gun to his son, they'd have to go 90 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: through a background check in order to do it. The 91 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: thing is, it wouldn't have stopped her shooting. It would 92 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with that the person didn't obtain 93 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: a gun through a private transfer. It wouldn't have stopped 94 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: one mass public shooting this century. But they use it 95 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: as an excuse to go and pass another type of 96 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: regulation that they want to have, And unfortunately that is 97 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: true for most of these types of gun control laws. Well, 98 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: and what's the difference, John, between this so called bill 99 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: universal background checks and the background checks that are being 100 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: conducted right now when you go to buy a firearm 101 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: right well, right now, if you go to any type 102 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: of dealer, whether it's a dealer at a shop, or 103 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: a dealer at a gun show or anything else you 104 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: have to have any place in the country, you have 105 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: to go through the federal Knicks system. These background checks, 106 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: and if you're just going to transfer a gun to somebody, 107 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: you have to pay a fee. Otherwise it's in the 108 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: price of a gun. What this does is this would 109 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: make it so not just when you buy it from 110 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: a dealer, but if you if you obtain a gun, 111 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: whether it's a gift or whether it's a purchase from anybody, 112 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, even within a family, you'd have to have 113 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: a background check. Or even if you're gonna lend somebody 114 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: a gun. If you're gonna lend somebody a gun, you know, 115 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: let's say a woman friend of yours is being stalked. 116 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: It's a Saturday night, and she calls you up fearful 117 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: and you want to lend you her gun. You'd have 118 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: to do a background check before you could lend it 119 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: to her. So that's that's the change that at the 120 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: law would produce. Now let me ask you two quick 121 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: questions with that. If I lent that gun to somebody 122 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: and they committed a crime or shot somebody who's liable 123 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: me or them, well, I mean even if they used 124 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: in self defense. If you had this type of background 125 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: checks on private transfers, and you hadn't done that. You know, 126 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: she had called you up late at night, and there 127 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: was no dealer to go to at that time to 128 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: go and lend her the gun. You know, you would 129 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: be committing crime even if, even if, and she would 130 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: also in terms of accepting the gun. Now, maybe the 131 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: actual defensive gun use would be deemed perfectly proper viewed 132 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: as justifiable self defense, but the act of you giving 133 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: her the gun without the background check and her taking it, 134 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: both of you would be committing felonies. I'm not sure 135 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: I would lend a gun to somebody, would you. Well, 136 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: it depends. I mean surely there are people that you know, well, 137 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: they may have reasons why they don't have a gun, 138 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: And it depends on what you think the threat is. 139 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: If you, let's say you know a woman friend of 140 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: yours and you know the person that she's having trouble with, 141 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: you may believe that she's really endanger You may offer 142 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: to stay there or to have her stay at your place. 143 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: But let's say that's not practical for some reason. I 144 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: can think of situations where somebody that I trust, you know, 145 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: and I believe that they understand what they're doing with 146 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: the gun. I would I would lend it to them. 147 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on the circumstances. John lot with us. 148 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: We're going to take calls with John next hour here 149 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: as we talk about guns, gun control, universal background checks. 150 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody I know wants to stop criminals from 151 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: getting guns. Would would universal background checks do that? Or 152 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: would they hurt other people in society? Yeah? I mean 153 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: I wish. I mean I couldn't agree with you more. 154 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to stop criminals or other people who are 155 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: dangerous from getting guns. The problem is, background checks aren't 156 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: going to be a magic bullet. I mean, I'll give 157 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: you an example. We have background checks on people getting opioids, right, 158 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna go epidemic opioid from a pharmacist, 159 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: you have to have a prescription and show your ID, 160 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: a government issued photo ID before they can give it 161 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: to you. Now, I don't think anybody believes that the 162 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: back round check system for drugs is stopping people from 163 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: getting opioids in this country or other types of drugs. 164 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: You know. So, and one thing people have to realize 165 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: with regard to getting illegal drugs, it's essentially the same 166 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: as by getting illegal guns. It's essentially the same as 167 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: getting illegal drugs. Drug dealers have guns, you know, and 168 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: the big source for obtaining illegal guns are drug dealers, 169 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: and so, uh, you know, it's not like a drug dealer. 170 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: If one drug dealer steals another drug dealers drugs that 171 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: they can go to the police and say, can you 172 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: help us get them back? They have to essentially set 173 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: up their own little militaries to protect that very valuable 174 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: property that they have, and so they have guns to 175 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: do that, and and you know, so uh, you know, 176 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: I wish it was simple, but you're going to be 177 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: no more successful in stopping them from getting guns than 178 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: you are drugs. If I could click my fingers and 179 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: cause all illegal drugs to disappear from the United States 180 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: and all guns, how long do you think it is 181 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: before illegal drugs would start coming back into the country? 182 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: A couple hours? Well, I mean if you're in El Paso, 183 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: maybe twenty minutes or something like that. And how long 184 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: would it be before the drug gangs would be bringing 185 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: in the weapons in order to protect that valuable property. Yeah, 186 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: you look at Mexico for example, Mexico since nineteen seventy 187 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: two has had one gun store in the country. It's 188 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: located in Mexico City. It's run by the military. It's 189 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: very difficult to be able to go and buy a gun. 190 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Probably just one percent of the population owns a gun 191 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: in Mexico. Legally, the strongest, most powerful rifle that you 192 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: can buy in Mexico is a twenty two caliber gun. 193 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: That's not the types of guns that drug dealers are using. 194 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: They're in the country and you know, but yet Mexico 195 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: has a murder rate that's five times higher than we 196 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: have here in the United States. And drug gangs they 197 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: bring in drugs from around the world kind of and 198 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: transit to bring them into the United States. And they 199 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: obtain weapons not only from the Mexican military, but from 200 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: sources all around the world. There. I mean, I wish 201 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: it was easy. The problem that you have to realize 202 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: for a lot of these regulations is that you may 203 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: primarily be making it difficult for law abiding citizens. So 204 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: when they vote on the Gabby Gifford's bill on Congress, 205 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: which I'm sure they will soon, Washington, DC is one 206 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: place that already has these background checks on private transfers. 207 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: It costs one hundred and twenty five dollars to privately 208 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: transfer a gun in Washington, DC. They may not stop 209 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: you or I from being able to go and obtain 210 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: a gun. But the very people that my research finds 211 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: who benefits the most from having guns, poor blacks who 212 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: live in high crime urban areas. That people will most 213 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: likely be victims of violent crime, and because they are 214 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: most likely be victims, benefit the most from having the 215 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: option to go and protect themselves. One hundred and twenty 216 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: five dollars may make the difference between whether they're legally 217 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: able to go and buy a gun to protect themselves 218 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: and their families. But it's even worse than that. You know, 219 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: we frequently hear the claim that they're three million dangerous 220 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: or prohibited people that have been stopped from buying guns 221 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: because of background checks, and that's simply false. What they 222 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: should say is that there've been three million initial denials 223 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: and virtually all of those something around ninety nine percent 224 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: of those are false positives. They're simply you know, it's 225 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: one thing to stop a felon from buy a gun. 226 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: It's another thing to stop somebody simply because they've been 227 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: named similar to a felon from buying a gun. Felons 228 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: are not stupid enough to go through a background check, 229 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: to go and get a gun, even though they're pretty dumb. 230 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast Am every weeknight at 231 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: one am Eastern, and go to Coast to Coast am 232 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: dot com for more