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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the naught even nice shows to rub Shoot.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday morning, a bright Monday morning, and our bright,

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Speaker 1: lovely friend Garrett Vogel is joining us. Hey, Garrett, are

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Speaker 1: you there?

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Speaker 2: Bobby Shooter, Good morning friend.

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Speaker 1: How are you? You look as if you're in a

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Speaker 1: different location today. Where are you?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm working from the satellite Naughty but Nice office

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Speaker 2: is in Westfield, New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: A bureau in Jersey gets a lot of good scoop

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Speaker 1: that bureau does there.

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Speaker 2: I know. I'm on the streets looking for new housewives,

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Speaker 2: as we'll talk about in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we well, we will. Okay, let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: What time is it, my friends? At is D time?

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Speaker 1: So everybody's still talking about meccan and Harry's big interview.

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Speaker 1: We told you they're going to do this CBS Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: aired Sunday morning. We don't have the ratings yet, but

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Speaker 1: the early numbers look very positive. They don't look as

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Speaker 1: if they're Oprah numbers. I don't think millions and millions

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Speaker 1: and millions of people sat down to watch this. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like a big two hour hour interview. They were

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Speaker 1: just part of the show. Although they did get a

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Speaker 1: good six minutes. And so during this interview, Meghan revealed

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Speaker 1: that she's quote only scratched the surface of all the

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Speaker 1: details that have gone on in her life. So she

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Speaker 1: admitted to Oprah that she had suicidal thoughts. Remember that

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Speaker 1: Jane Parley brought this up, and Megan seemed a little

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Speaker 1: bit surprised, and she said that she was a little

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. And she said that her journey

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Speaker 1: surface of my experience. She went on to say that

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Speaker 1: if she's talking about this and if she can help somebody,

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Speaker 1: then it's all worth it. But she's still processing this

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Speaker 1: really really dramatic time in her life where she was

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Speaker 1: so so sad that she thought about suicide.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it is interesting. I mean, it's one of those

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Speaker 2: things you can't question, you know what I mean. You

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Speaker 2: can't question illness and mental health, you know, because only

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Speaker 2: you know the truth, you know. So as consumers of

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Speaker 2: watching this interview, you have to sit here and you

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Speaker 2: really can't, you know, call her out on anything because

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Speaker 2: she's only speaking how she feels. So you can't tell

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Speaker 2: her how wrong she is because that's how she feels.

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Speaker 2: But the interesting thing, though, is, as you're talking about

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Speaker 2: how it was only six minutes versus the big Oprah interview,

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Speaker 2: do you think Oprah at the end of the day

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Speaker 2: or this morning? You know, because Oprah is a very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think yeah, Oprah dose. Oprah got the interview,

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Speaker 1: second interview whose third interviews are never as good as

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Speaker 1: the first. So just like movies, Yeah, that's right. I

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Speaker 1: Oprah got that big sit down interview, which really was historic.

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Speaker 1: The Royals just didn't do interviews like that at all.

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Speaker 1: This is their first interview together since doing that. We

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Speaker 1: should point out that there really are doing something really

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Speaker 1: positive here there and launching this new initiative, this charity

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Speaker 1: to really empower parents. And part of the touching part

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Speaker 1: of this package for me was it wasn't just Harry

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Speaker 1: of online bullying. And that's how Jane Parley, the interviewer,

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Speaker 1: linked it to Meghan, saying, you know something about this yourself.

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Speaker 1: You know a little bit about what it's like to

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Speaker 1: be bullied online, and even if you're not a Megan fan,

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Speaker 1: what she went through was extraordinary, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: couldn't get away from it. And we're not built for that, Garretts.

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Speaker 1: We're not taught how to be that famous.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody is, even even the people that

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Speaker 1: It's really an awful place. I know some famous people,

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Speaker 1: It's not good. And that person's liked. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: if you were disliked like Megan. Meghan has this army

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Speaker 1: of hate water I watched this interview brought me to tears.

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Speaker 1: To think that kids are in their bedrooms at night,

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Speaker 1: of hate. And I just can't imagine that. Garrett, you

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Speaker 1: have young children. This interview with Meghan and Harry must

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Speaker 2: Two things, because it was relatable, you know, And I

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Speaker 2: So you know, we can all live through the fact

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Speaker 2: She found something that was relatable to a lot of

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Speaker 2: of us all like realizing that hey, she's.

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Speaker 1: Just like us, really smart. Garrett, I think this is

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Speaker 1: the feeling that they do too much publicity and they

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Speaker 1: know they want it both ways, and so I do

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Speaker 1: understand all those arguments. However, after watching this interview it's

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Speaker 1: It's a real issue, and I think using their celebrity,

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Speaker 1: people think about them, which brings us to our poll

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Speaker 1: question of the day. Meghan Markle has shared that she's

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Speaker 1: only just begun to scratch the surface of all the

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Speaker 1: trauma that she endured. The question is do you want

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Speaker 1: to hear them more? Should she reveal more? Meghan sending

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Speaker 1: the interview that if you talk about stuff it really helps.

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Speaker 1: So maybe Meghan, maybe Meghan should reveal more. What do

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Speaker 1: Milton nized rob our facebook page is Nordy Gjo said,

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Speaker 1: and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it's time for a new

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Speaker 2: meme from Ben Affleck. You know we're all used to

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Speaker 2: Well there's a new one because he debuted a new haircut,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it goes to anything, because it

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Speaker 2: the the Gawker story where Hulk Hogan sex tape was revealed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my sources tell me they're not speaking anymore. Not

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Speaker 1: This divorce is happening, And in fact, ironically, the fact

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Speaker 1: good news here is they had an iron clad prenup

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Speaker 1: and the only thing they purchased together during the marriage

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Speaker 1: so they'll split that. They might lose some money, they

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Speaker 2: They'll split when they don't have kids together.

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Speaker 1: They don't have kids together, and so this is actually

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Speaker 1: going to be quite an easy divorce if they talk

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Speaker 2: Which is so interesting though, because they signed that prenup

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Speaker 2: obviously you do it just to protect yourself, but you

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Speaker 1: It's so heartbreaking, it's so heartbreaken. Okay, moving along, The

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New Jersey, Yes, have been put on

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Speaker 1: hold until least next year, twenty twenty five. So we

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Speaker 1: broke the story first that Andy and the brother executives

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Speaker 1: Garrett Oogel. Hey, Garrett, let's get to the polls. Last show,

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Speaker 2: Well, the high school couple is finally getting engaged, allegedly

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Speaker 1: You're gonna Rob, you got a rub again, Rob. I

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Speaker 1: listening to The Naughty but Nice with Robin Garrett Show,

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