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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Third hour of Clay in Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for rolling with us. If you missed it, we

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Speaker 2: just had a Virginia Governor, Glenn Youngkin on the last hour.

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Speaker 2: You can go back and listen to that. The iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot of great concent going in there,

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Speaker 2: including stuff that doesn't even appear on the radio. Now

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Speaker 2: we'll get later on this hour if you can call

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Speaker 2: in some of our Virginia residents. We want to know

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Speaker 2: of some of our Virginia Clay and Buck people. How's

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Speaker 2: the governor doing in your mind in that state, because

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Speaker 2: the big takeaway from the interview we just had with

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Speaker 2: him was he says a Republican is going to win

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Speaker 2: Virginia in twenty twenty four. Now he came on to

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Speaker 2: talk well at least partially about the election efforts in

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Speaker 2: that state in twenty twenty five. Three things they are

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Speaker 2: doing to both secure the vote and also to get

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Speaker 2: Republicans to use the system as it is early voting.

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Speaker 2: Whatever else obviously very state by state. So I think

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Speaker 2: that's all really really important. But something else that I

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Speaker 2: do believe is going to it's going to matter in

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Speaker 2: the general election, al though not the way that people

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Speaker 2: necessarily think, is the issue of crime. Clay Gallup was

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Speaker 2: twenty in October of twenty twenty two saying that there

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Speaker 2: was an all time record in perceptions of a local

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Speaker 2: crime increase since they have been asking that question. Now

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Speaker 2: I know this is going on twenty twenty three. I

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Speaker 2: was going to do the math in my head how

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Speaker 2: many months later this is, but you know, eight, nine

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Speaker 2: months later, whatever, ten months later, eight, I don't know. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Point is. Crime is still a major issue at the

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Speaker 2: national level, and we see this story in the Wallstreet

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Speaker 2: I just find I'm just gonna tell everybody, I find

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Speaker 2: this fascinating and I actually find it very encouraging as

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Speaker 2: well for us, and it shows you more and more

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Speaker 2: that we have the answers to the questions, how do

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Speaker 2: we stop the rampant thefts, how do we stop the

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Speaker 2: surgeon homicides, how do we you know, limit serious criminality

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Speaker 2: in our society? As much as possible. I turned to

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Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal. Piece today goes into detail about

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Speaker 2: something we've talked about here before, which is the anti

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Speaker 2: crime miracle of El Salvador and President Bukey and what

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Speaker 2: he has done down there. Clay, he now sits at Well,

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Speaker 2: let's first get into what's happened. I mean, violent crime

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Speaker 2: in El Salvador used to be, and when I'm talking,

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Speaker 2: used to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen numbers. They had a

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Speaker 2: murder rate of one hundred and six per one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand people. It is now down in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 2: to seven, not seventy seven, from over one hundred murders

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Speaker 2: That is a no one would have thought the decline

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Speaker 2: at that point could have happened that quickly. Boukale has

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Speaker 2: a ninety percent approval rate in his state. In his country,

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Speaker 2: I should say, it's about the size of Massachusetts. About

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Speaker 2: six million people live in El Salvador. It has seen

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Speaker 2: a drop of almost fifty percent in emigration. People are staying,

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Speaker 2: businesses are opening, people feel safe, on the streets. And

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Speaker 2: what did he do declared war on violent criminals on

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Speaker 2: the gangs and locked them up. It's not actually it's

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Speaker 2: not easy, but it's not complicated either.

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Speaker 3: We know what works. And this is one of the

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Speaker 3: tragic ironies. Honestly, of Joe Biden's entire tenure as a politician,

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Speaker 3: the one thing he may have gotten right in his

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Speaker 3: career was the nineteen ninety four crime Bill. For those

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Speaker 3: of you out there who remember the eighties and the

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Speaker 3: early nineties, we saw an incredible spike in violent crime

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Speaker 3: they decided we had to do something radical, put violent

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Speaker 3: criminals behind bars. And that's what we did, and then

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Speaker 3: idea that oh, America is systemically racist. Oh we're putting

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Speaker 3: bad guys behind bars for too long. That is a

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Speaker 3: natural result of people not feeling threatened or endangered in

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Speaker 3: why do these people need to be in jail. It's

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Speaker 2: We see.

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Speaker 3: It's a cycle, right, you say, oh, we don't want

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Speaker 3: police to do their job. They're being too mean. Police

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Speaker 3: then criminals come in, and then people say, oh, we

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, this is what it really comes down to,

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Speaker 2: and that's why they they're you know, the Wall Street

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Speaker 2: detention facilities that they're being held in, these are almost

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Speaker 2: all not all, but primarily MS thirteen and another. I

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Speaker 2: forget the name of the other gang, two primary gangs

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Speaker 2: up about sixty to seventy thousand gang members. Sixty to

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Speaker 2: seventy thousand. Now that's a high incarceration rate per capita.

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Speaker 2: But what you have now is with sixty thousand people

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Speaker 2: peace and security. And this is the trade off, the

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Speaker 2: very clear one that Al Salvador has decided to make.

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Speaker 2: This brings me to some of the analysis of even

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Speaker 2: things like shoplifting in New York City. New York City

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Speaker 2: has eight point five million residents, give or take, there

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Speaker 2: are less than a thousand people who are responsible for

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Speaker 2: a massive percentage of the thefts that are going on

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Speaker 2: all that I mean thousands and thousands and thousands of thefts.

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Speaker 2: And you could stop this from happening if you're willing

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Speaker 2: arrest people one hundred times and nothing happens to them,

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Speaker 2: the problem never gets better. And in the case of

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Speaker 2: bad things got, we all know about that. There's the

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Speaker 2: drug trade component of it. But al Salvador actually isn't

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Speaker 2: really a well there are other transshipment points as well.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it's coming through you know, it comes

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Speaker 2: But it was really a lot of racketeering, basically demanding.

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Speaker 2: They were just a criminal enterprise demanding that businesses pay

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Speaker 2: one point that they I think it's in the article Clay,

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Speaker 2: three thousand bus drivers or public transit workers over a

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Speaker 2: ten year period were murdered for doing their jobs. They

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Speaker 2: There was one incident that really was a bit of

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Speaker 2: a breaking point that they describe where one of these

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Speaker 2: was going on in this country. So now when you

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Speaker 2: have like the New York times, and these human rights

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Speaker 2: enough calls to their lawyers. People are sit around saying, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you can't have a society that is overrun with criminal

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Speaker 2: I think there are very clear, clear lessons for this country.

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Speaker 2: This is why we're talking about this now.

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Speaker 3: The data reflects that since the BLM protests started, the

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Speaker 3: black murder rate has skyrocketed in this country, and most

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Speaker 3: people who are black who are being murdered are being

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Speaker 3: murdered by other black people. So this idea of systemic

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Speaker 3: racism driving crime has always been a lie. But in particular,

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Speaker 3: it is a tiny pinprick of the overall population in

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Speaker 3: actually running roughshod over the vast majority of people who

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Speaker 3: you don't allow the police protection to occur, the criminal

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Speaker 3: democrats won't acknowledge it. But the Black Lives Matter movement

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Speaker 3: has directly resulted in thousands of black people who would

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Speaker 3: what the data reflects. They can't protect people and the

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Speaker 3: what we're starting to see is, in the three years

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Speaker 3: the emotional anti police response was wrong. The problem is

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Speaker 3: this was eminently predictable, and thousands of people lost their lives,

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Speaker 3: and you can't unring the bell of what has happened

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Speaker 3: are soft on crime. Fundamentally, Democrats embraced an analysis that

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Speaker 3: the criminal justice system is racist. Therefore, allowing your criminal

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Speaker 3: nine percent of people living in even high crime, high

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Speaker 3: crime neighborhoods who just want to live in peace and

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Speaker 3: clay and and others who live who live in fancy places,

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Speaker 3: social justice. And what you see in El Salvador, a

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Speaker 3: you know, ninety percent, is that they don't have this

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Speaker 2: They just said, we're just going to enforce the law.

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Speaker 2: We're just going to go after the people that are

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Speaker 2: going to lock them up. And enough is enough. And

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Speaker 2: now ninety percent of that country is like the presidents

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Speaker 2: doing in a maz job. There is a lesson here

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Speaker 2: for New York, for Los Angeles, for Chicago, for Houston,

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Speaker 3: I would also add this if people out there are

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Speaker 3: uncomfortable having race conversations associated with crime because you're afraid

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Speaker 3: you're going to get branded or racist. Just turn it

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Speaker 3: to sexist.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Would you ever argue that the police are systemically sexist?

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Speaker 3: And when somebody says what do you mean by that,

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Speaker 3: you say, well, ninety five ninety six percent of all

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Speaker 3: that's because the police are systemically discriminating against men, or

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Speaker 3: Clay Travis, Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Secon show.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We roll

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Speaker 3: rolling in from our Glenn Youngkin interview. Buck, do you

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Speaker 2: I mean I would think yes, and yes, I would

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Speaker 2: think that that's Remember, you're not signing up to be

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Speaker 3: So we'll play that audio for you if you missed

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Speaker 3: Buck's question. I think it would require Glenn Youngkin to

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Speaker 1: Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.

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Speaker 2: Republican eyes, sweet home for new FBI headquarters in Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Headline right now up on the Wall Street Journal talking

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Speaker 2: Alabama city of Huntsville, which is about seven hundred miles

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Speaker 2: I think that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: I think it would change the culture of the FBI dramatically.

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Speaker 2: I love this.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a brilliant idea.

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Speaker 2: I think it should be considered for a whole range

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Speaker 2: the most democrat I mean, how is it that the

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Speaker 2: seat of the federal government is in the most heavily

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Speaker 2: democrat large city or you know, bigger than half a

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Speaker 2: million in the entire country. I think it's now more.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe San Francisco is a couple of

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Speaker 2: points ahead, but it's basically San fran and DC the

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Speaker 2: most left wing cities in America, and one of them

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Speaker 2: is the seat of the entire federal government that seems

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Speaker 2: like a and not just the federal government. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying we have to move to the White House, but

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Speaker 2: all these agencies, why do they all have to be there?

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Speaker 3: Here's a good question for you, speaking of A agencies.

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Speaker 3: You were in the CIA, we had Glenn youngkin on

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Speaker 3: you said you liked Wangley Northern Virginia. How much difference

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Speaker 3: do you think the culture of the CIA would be

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Speaker 3: if it were located in Omaha, Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it would change pretty pretty dramatically. You

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Speaker 2: have a lot of the there's definitely a feeling whether

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Speaker 2: you're working at the State Department CIA, you get a

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Speaker 2: lot of the Northeastern Ascella Corridor people who want to

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Speaker 2: work there. And look, I mean, I'm I grew up

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Speaker 2: in New York. I suppose I'm one of them. I

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Speaker 2: think it would change pretty rapidly in terms of the

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Speaker 2: overall applicants that you have to some of these places.

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Speaker 2: But Northern Virginia, it's really a Northern Virginia is really

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Speaker 2: Washington d C. Extended. When you go to Arlington. As

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Speaker 2: you well know from living there, Arlington is to d

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Speaker 2: C as Manhattan is to Brooklyn. And they're separated by

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Speaker 2: a river, but it really feels like it's exactly the

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Speaker 2: same culture and politics. When I used to go visit

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Speaker 2: family in and around Charlottesville, Charlottesville to me felt like

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Speaker 2: virgin Although I know it's probably pretty Democrat now too,

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Speaker 2: but at least it felt like Virginia. You're up in Arlington,

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Speaker 2: just across the river from DC, and you're basically in

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Speaker 2: extended DC. I've made that drive through Virginia so many

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Speaker 2: times on eighty one for those of you who have

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Speaker 2: driven ever Nashville, and then you take eighty one and

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Speaker 2: you take it on up I think to sixty six

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Speaker 2: if I'm remembering correctly, if you drive across all of Virginia,

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Speaker 2: and it's amazing how different Virginia is as an entire

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Speaker 2: state until you get to about an hour outside of DC,

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Speaker 2: and then the entire place changes. And you can see

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Speaker 2: why the battle for winning in Virginia is limit the

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Speaker 2: Northern Virginia loss, Right, how much are you gonna lose

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Speaker 2: in that highly populated area, run up huge margins everywhere else.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of you letting us know we are on

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Speaker 2: in Huntsville, Alabama, Buck, so shout out wb hpam that

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Speaker 2: is our affiliate in Huntsville. I bet we have a

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Speaker 2: monster audience in Huntsville, Alabama. So it's a fabulous town.

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Speaker 2: I'm in favor of.

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Speaker 3: Let's put that on the front page if the Huntsville

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Speaker 3: pretty much every newspaper in Alabama. Uh, put that on

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Speaker 3: the front page, Clay and bucking dorse FBI moving to Huntsville, Alabama.

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Speaker 2: I hope the folks of Huntsville, Huntsville want they may

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Speaker 2: they may not want the FBI based there, but well

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Speaker 2: that could be doing. They may not want the Biden FBI.

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Speaker 2: I don't want them. I don't want them in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. Uh, Clay, you want to tell

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Speaker 3: so far today, Buck, but I was going to read

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Speaker 3: this one. This is from Maddie who sent me a DM.

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Speaker 3: I happened to jump in and see it. As you

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Speaker 3: can well imagine, I have open dms. People deluge me

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Speaker 3: all day long with opinions on every subject under the sun,

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Speaker 3: and I'd dive in every now and then look at it.

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Speaker 3: Maddie wanted to say this. You guys are becoming unlistenable

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Speaker 3: the way you are writing off DeSantis and going with

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Speaker 3: the polls a year out that Trump is the inevitable nominee.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Youngkin would be Ron DeSantis's VP. Walking on eggshells

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Speaker 3: when it comes to Trump is weak man. I wish

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Speaker 3: Rush was still here, but we're stuck with you two.

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Speaker 3: I wish Rush was still here too, by the way, Drew,

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Speaker 3: I wish everybody's grandma and grandpa was also still alive.

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Speaker 3: I frankly wish that we had a little bit more

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Speaker 3: immortality rolling around in modern life than in the past.

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Speaker 3: But what I think in general, Buck, and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you see this too. Every day I get in and

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Speaker 3: dated almost evenly with emails from people saying, you guys

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Speaker 3: are too pro Trump and simultaneously, you guys are too

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Speaker 3: pro DeSantis. And it always reminds me because I told

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Speaker 3: you about this. It reminds me of sports so much,

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Speaker 3: because when I would talk about Ohio State Michigan, or

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Speaker 3: when I would talk about Auburn Alabama or Yankees Red

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Speaker 3: Sox one. When there's great passion in a rivalry, people

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Speaker 3: see with colored lenses and they believe that you're always

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Speaker 3: biased against them. And what we've said from the get

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Speaker 3: go is, first of all, I just think it's important

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Speaker 3: to reiterate this all the time. Rush never endorsed in

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Speaker 3: a Republican primary. In his entire tenure on radio. People

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Speaker 3: forget Rush thirty plus years, never picked a candidate in

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Speaker 3: the primary. And I think that's important for everybody out

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Speaker 3: there to remember. We have everybody on this show. When

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Speaker 3: do we have Vivic coming on Thursday? I think so

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Speaker 3: this week we had Young get on. We'll see whether

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Speaker 3: or not he runs. We had DeSantis on Monday. We've

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Speaker 3: done the show live from mar A Lago and from Bedminster.

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Speaker 3: I bet we're the only radio show in the entire

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Speaker 3: country that has done live shows not only from mar

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Speaker 3: A Lago, but also from bed and ster Trump's two residences.

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Speaker 2: I also, I think that it's important people can lose

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Speaker 2: sight of this in a primary. It is in fact,

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Speaker 2: not only possible, but entirely consistent to really like Trump

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Speaker 2: and really like DeSantis and really respect and like a

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Speaker 2: number of other Republicans that you know. Look, Glenn Young

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Speaker 2: could we had him on today. He didn't announce or anything. Well,

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Speaker 2: he did say he thinks a Republican can win in Virginia,

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Speaker 2: which I think is just newsworthy in and of itself.

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Speaker 2: But He's a very competent guy who's doing a really

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Speaker 2: good job as a conservative in a state with millions

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Speaker 2: of people and a lot of folks listening to the

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Speaker 2: show right now live there. So great. You know, this

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Speaker 2: is what we want. We want Republicans Conservatives who are

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Speaker 2: winners and who are getting it done all over the place.

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Speaker 2: It's not about always the comparison of well, there can

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Speaker 2: only be you know, your support has to go to

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Speaker 2: one person or or on one issue. We're supporting the

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Speaker 2: whole team here as much as we can, and all

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Speaker 2: of them are infinitely better than Joe Biden. That's what

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Speaker 2: we really care about. Yeah, defeating Joe Biden correct the

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Speaker 2: worst president in any of our lives. So I do

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Speaker 2: think it's important to kind of put that out there. Yes,

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Speaker 2: this is right now the internescent civil war, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: inside of the Republican Party to find the nominee.

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Speaker 3: Personally, I think Trump is the substantial favor. I think

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Speaker 3: you would be crazy if you're not saying Trump is

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Speaker 3: in the lead position. So that doesn't mean that Ron

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Speaker 3: DeSantis or vivek Ramaswami, or if Glenn Youngkin got into

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Speaker 3: the race, they couldn't catch lightning in a bottle. Also,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that there couldn't be something crazy right

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Speaker 3: when you're talking about Trump at seventy seven, I believe

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Speaker 3: and Biden at eighty, health related conditions for both of

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Speaker 3: those guys could emerge.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what the future is gonna hold. The

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Speaker 2: woman who DMed you, I would just say, could Youngkin

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Speaker 2: be on a dysantis ticket winning DISSENTUS ticket? Absolutely, of

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Speaker 2: course he could be. Could Youngkin maybe come in in

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Speaker 2: a year be the guy who's actually out front? When

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Speaker 2: I say could, there's likely, and there's possible. All of

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Speaker 2: these things are possible. So we try to talk about

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Speaker 2: things based on the percentages as we see them right now.

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Speaker 2: But I always say nobody can predict the future. Look

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two for a lot of people. I just

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Speaker 2: saw Tucker said this reason we should at Tucker on

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Speaker 2: the show. By the way, it's been a while. Tucker said,

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Speaker 2: you know that twenty twenty two. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: some blame for that. You know, we thought the things

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Speaker 2: of those key races than they did. Nobody can predict

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Speaker 2: the future. What we can do is stand for principles

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Speaker 2: and have conversations about what's happening right now that matters

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Speaker 2: to all of us.

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Speaker 3: Let's hold the Rapino for tomorrow, because I think that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be fun, because she's such an imbecile on this

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Speaker 3: and we've only got a couple of minutes left. And

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Speaker 3: I also know that we teased for people who did

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Speaker 3: not hear Glenn Youngkin earlier in the certainly go subscribe

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Speaker 3: zoom right through. You can listen at two x speed,

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Speaker 3: like my wife does. We sound like we're the old

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Speaker 3: micromachines ads, but I believe we have Glenn Youngkin talking

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Speaker 3: about what he thought Virginia could mean in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four and whether the Republicans could make a play there.

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Speaker 3: Listen to that conversation from about an hour and a

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Speaker 3: half ago. Could you deliver Virginia as Trump's VP ser

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 2: Theoretically? Hypothetically? Well, as you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I don't really play the hypothetical games, but I

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Speaker 1: think I think the Republican nominee will win Virginia in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: There we go, there we go, because that's key because

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Speaker 3: if that were to happen, governor the right, you can

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Speaker 3: cut us off. That's us reacting. Okay, So, first of all, Buck,

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Speaker 3: I will say this. I love when political candidates who's

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Speaker 3: entire policy and suggestion is a hypothetical. Right, when you

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Speaker 3: run for office, you are engaging in a hypothetical.

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Speaker 2: If I am elected, I will do X, Y and Z.

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Speaker 3: I love that politicians get away with saying, oh, I

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Speaker 3: don't really engage in hypotheticals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they're like, but this is what I

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Speaker 2: would do if I were the most powerful man in

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Speaker 2: the world. That would change your day to day life

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Speaker 2: in remarkable ways. But I don't do hypotheticals here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It is a funny thing where you're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he did want to do hypotheticals.

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Speaker 2: But then you take a step back and you.

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Speaker 3: Say, every single candidacy, every single candidate running for any

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Speaker 3: political office anywhere in the country, all they do is

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Speaker 3: engage in hypotheticals all day long. That's the entire basis

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Speaker 3: of their attempt to run for the office.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't Rudy Giuliani, the front runner for the Republican nomination

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Speaker 2: at this point in eight so yeah, trust me, folks,

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Speaker 2: we are aware everything can change in a big way.