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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to the Bobby Cast. In honor of

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Speaker 1: Scuba Steve's birthday, which just happened, we wanted to share

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Speaker 1: this episode of the Bobby Cast. We brought on Scuba Steve,

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Speaker 1: who was the executive producer of The Bobby Bones Show,

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Speaker 1: and we basically get into his life, which we don't

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Speaker 1: talked about how he got into it, his past relationships,

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Speaker 1: So in honor of his birthday, we thought we'd play

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Speaker 1: this again. Maybe you didn't hear it the first time.

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Speaker 1: Here is Scuba Steve by end our studio at home

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Speaker 1: with Scuba Steve. It's Eddie, Scuba and myself. And for

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Speaker 1: a while, when I first started to do this podcast,

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Speaker 1: just being music. Right, we're putting anybody on just ConA

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Speaker 1: to Bobby Cast one. Yeah, but people like to get

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Speaker 1: to know members of the show better. And then I

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Speaker 1: thought I was talking to Mike about it. I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, Scooba moved here during a pandemic, so nobody

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Speaker 1: really hangs out like you come over and play basketball

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Speaker 1: have Do you ever hung out with Scubah? No, not

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Speaker 1: out side of work. That's why I'm saying your Christmas party?

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Speaker 1: What last last year? Oh yeah, not pandemic, but right

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Speaker 1: when he moved. I guess you moved here right before

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Speaker 1: of these days too, right, Yeah, that's coming. Um, So

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Speaker 1: I thought, why not have Scuba in Eddie and I

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Speaker 1: He's very interesting. So, like I would say, as soon

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Speaker 1: as we're done recording, you know, with the Bobby Bones

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Speaker 1: Show and everything, everything we do for the rest of

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Speaker 1: know each other pretty well. What have you been doing

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Speaker 1: for two hours? Videos? Man? I got a list of

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Speaker 1: videos that I need to do and then when I'm

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Speaker 1: done with that, I go home and then school was

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Speaker 1: there for another four hours. So sometimes school we haven't

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Speaker 1: been afternoon at work and I'm like, you go back

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Speaker 1: um so let's just by the way Scoopa Steve as

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Speaker 1: our executive producer on the show. He's the guy pulling

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Speaker 1: all strings, line things up, making decisions. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: that is doing the work that you don't know who's

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Speaker 1: doing the work. I get all the credit, and I should.

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Speaker 1: There's also scuba and I'm totally fine with that. That's

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, I'm totally not kidding. But so you are

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Speaker 1: the guests, dealing. One thing I didn't realize this is

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Speaker 1: part of my job that I didn't get into until

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Speaker 1: with this. You get the emails daily of sales request. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things you don't get because I

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Speaker 1: ridiculous request without saying anything exactly? Like what is something?

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Speaker 1: And I'm putting you on the spot here, So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say, no, can you give me an example? Well,

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Speaker 1: I won't say the brands, but there's some brands that

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Speaker 1: just don't fit you and your personality, like which wouldn't

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Speaker 1: sell you cigarettes, like something like that pack our pills. No,

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Speaker 1: those go straight to you and then want you to

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Speaker 1: Come to me. It's more for the company than anything.

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Speaker 1: the better we all look. The local spots is where

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Speaker 1: you make the money in your pocket. Correct, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: Idol Bobby Bones and do and I do them. That's

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Speaker 1: it's per market size. Basically, there's a rate for each

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Speaker 1: But I don't say no to small markets just because

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Speaker 1: But people They're great people, though some small markets are.

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Speaker 1: The guy's geeking out. They were geking out of me. Um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's your job. But let's go back way back, um,

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Speaker 1: and I'll say this, I got you, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: from Ryan Seacrest. That's where you were before me. We

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Speaker 1: start with Scooba. Steve's life. I grew up in Orlando, Florida,

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Speaker 1: a small town called a Veto in Orlando. Is that

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Speaker 1: another one. You know now where you ahead where I'm from? No, No,

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Speaker 1: But how so I met somebody at a club event

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Speaker 1: didn't like it. I didn't. Yes, you can see on

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Speaker 1: so you were working with Johnny? Was it Johnny and Jade? Jade? Yeah, Jade.

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Speaker 1: and I are were you guys? Cool? Yeah? Very cool. Yeah,

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00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 1: we still talked to this day. Well I like her. Yeah,

423
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 1: if he didn't, great. Yeah. When she was here in

424
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,400
Speaker 1: town a year ago before Shook the gig, we went

425
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: lunch and everything. So she was one of the hosts

426
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,880
Speaker 1: while you were what position? She was the co host

427
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 1: when I was intern, but then also became a person

428
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 1: on the show, a part time personality and producer. You

429
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,959
Speaker 1: were you a producer on that show? Yes? What did

430
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,399
Speaker 1: you produce? So? I was the associate producer. So I

431
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 1: would do kind of like what Abby does, screen calls,

432
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 1: edit audio, get some audio on the streets, put together

433
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,719
Speaker 1: you know, one sheets, all that basic stuff. Okay, so

434
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,119
Speaker 1: you're doing that for how long? I did that for

435
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 1: about about a year year and a half. And then

436
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 1: are you going I gotta get out of here and

437
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 1: go some more bigger or did you kind of get

438
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: pushed off. I wanted a full time because should they

439
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 1: dangled that cared for years, you know, we eventually a

440
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: full time I was working seven days a week, but

441
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: only logging twenty nine hours um, and I was fine

442
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: with that. Like you said, you have to you have

443
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,199
Speaker 1: to grind, and I'm totally cool with that. And then

444
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 1: I got to a point where I wasn't going to

445
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: get that full time position anytime soon. My ex wife

446
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 1: at the time got the opportunity to move to San

447
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 1: Francisco and I knew nothing about it. I just knew

448
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: it was a bigger city, was California. It's an opportunity.

449
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 1: Let's do it. So I quit my job. And before

450
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 1: I quit my job, I remember the moment where we

451
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 1: were driving. We had the U haul packed the car

452
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 1: ready to go, everything to hit the road, and I

453
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 1: went back to the Clear Channel building before my email expired,

454
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: and I emailed all the p d's in San Francisco

455
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 1: and the operations manager and said, hey, this is me resume.

456
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm heading that way, even if we can just have

457
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: a conversation, coffee whatever. UM, I have no job. I'm

458
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: willing to do whatever you need I'll do it. And

459
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: then I got some responses in the drive to San Francisco,

460
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: and then we apologiate for one secondary. What's the question

461
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: you wanna ask him? Imstening? I wanted blue and green.

462
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: Thank you. You don't have any like signed questions. This

463
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: is a good story relief. I'm good, Okay. I want

464
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: you to to see left out of it. You made fun

465
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: of my first question. I'm scarred by that. You're driving,

466
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: you get emails back, emails back saying hey, when you

467
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: come to town, hit me up. I would love to

468
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: talk to you. By the way, there almost isn't a

469
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: further drive. Oh, it's super far because you're going from

470
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: the bottom right basically to the upper left. I mean

471
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: you could have gone to Seattle. I guess I'd have

472
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: been further but Seattle Portland. But other than that, that's

473
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 1: about as far as you can go. Yeah, I'm in

474
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Speaker 1: with a car with somebody that I sort of hate

475
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: at the time. So it was a fun three to

476
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: four day drive. We mean sort of hey, because you

477
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 1: weren't divorcing then, no, but we were. Our relationship was

478
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: sort of on that verge of things weren't going right,

479
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 1: and you still thought you wanted to move with her,

480
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: even though things weren't going right. Yeah, because I saw

481
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: this as an opportunity to change me as a person

482
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: and take me out of my hometown, which was I

483
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: love Orlando, but I wanted to grow, and for me

484
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: to grow, I have to go somewhere. So so what

485
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: were the emails saying as you were driving? They were

486
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 1: just basically just like, hey, when you get to town,

487
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: hit us up. And I responded, say, no problem, I'll

488
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,719
Speaker 1: be there in this date. Let's lock in a date

489
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Speaker 1: when I get to town, and and then that happened.

490
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: I talked to three different people. One of them was

491
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: Cat Collins, who's a p D over there UH at

492
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: Wild nine, who was like the top forty station in

493
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Speaker 1: San Francisco. UH. Andrew Jeffreys was another one. He was

494
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: just a p D at the time for Star like

495
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: a hot a C. And then Don Parker, who is

496
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: the operations manager, and they're all like, hey, we don't

497
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: have any gigs at the moment, but we'd love for

498
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: you to come in and just just, you know, just talk.

499
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: I talked to Cat for like two hours, just talking

500
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: about radio and life and the move, and everyone seemed

501
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: to be pretty interested and me taking the chance of

502
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: quit my job and moving out here with this girl

503
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: and hopes that things just happen to work out. And

504
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: what job did you get eventually? So eventually Andrew Jeffries

505
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, I got something for you. Um

506
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: it's not a morning show producer or anything that you

507
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: were looking for, but it's an end of the building

508
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: and if you get in and as you know, that's you,

509
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: that's the ticket. You just want to get into the building.

510
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: Get that email, get that key card. And so he's like, hey,

511
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: I have a producer position where you basically take the

512
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: Seacrest show in the local end and you localize it,

513
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: inserted into the system and watched the board. Which is

514
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: kind of funny because later in life and I'm working

515
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: for secrets doing the opposite sending this stuff exactly. Yeah,

516
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: So how long did you do that? So? I did

517
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: that for about three or four months, and then there

518
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: was a morning show opportunity with a guy named Don

519
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: blue Uh at star Win O one three, and I

520
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: became his morning show producer from that, and then from

521
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 1: that did that for about a good two years, and

522
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: then the in the building was the j V show.

523
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: He used to do this show called The Doghouse, and

524
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: him and Rico needed a executive producer because they were

525
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: gonna start taking on affiliates and they just had they

526
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: didn't have any organization within their show, and they needed

527
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: someone to kind of help that out and play in

528
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: the day and do all the day to day stuff.

529
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: So I went on did that and that was a

530
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: wild ride for a good three three or four years.

531
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: Um the fact that those personalities, I've ever met them

532
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: before them. Um j V is a great guy, but

533
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: he's from that old school radio era of I'm gonna

534
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: piss you off to the absolute brink and watch you

535
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: break for content. So he would like push my buttons

536
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: and wish my buttons, and push my buttons and just

537
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: wreck me. Mean literally ripped the flesh off my skin,

538
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: not literally, not literally, but figuratively to get our reaction

539
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: out of me for whatever was going on. Like basically

540
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: I was the butt of every joke for everything, no

541
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: matter how hard I worked or did whatever, which at

542
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: the moment, I was like, gotta hate this guy. This

543
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: is so ridiculous, but it made me who I am today,

544
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: gave me the thick skin and gave me the tools

545
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: to take it on to the next level. Ever getting

546
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: an off air screaming match with him on air and

547
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: off air, but in the off air that was extremely intense.

548
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: On air, you can at least a little bit ago.

549
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: That's for the show, like I turned it up for

550
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: the show. Sure you ever getting an off air screaming match? Well,

551
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: the problem to a lot of our offer screen matches.

552
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: He'd press recording the box pro and they would turn

553
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: into an on air match without even realizing, or he'd

554
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: flipped the mics on, Like I cursed in the air

555
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: three or four times, said the F word, the S word,

556
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: not knowing it, but just because I didn't know I

557
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: was we were alive on the radio, he flip it

558
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: on and all of a sudden, I'll be tell him

559
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: to go f himself and uh, And then there it was.

560
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: Why did that relationship end? That ended because of money

561
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: and the dying need to come to l A at

562
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,239
Speaker 1: some point. So you weren't getting paid enough for what

563
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: you were doing. Oh not at all. No. Now you've

564
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: established yourself as a producer, But are you going I'm

565
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: a talent, Why am I producing? Or are you like

566
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: dang this producing is who knew where it's at. Well,

567
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: I think it was a combination of both, because then

568
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: when I went to as I was leaving in San Francisco,

569
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: I made relationships in the all format, uh, and I

570
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: was like, look, I want to track. Can I do

571
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: some tracking the side to kind of have my own

572
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: creative thing. That's why tracked like Stockton, Bakersfield small markets outside?

573
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: What what shifts? Uh? Mid day? Well, first it was

574
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: fill in shifts, and then when I got to the

575
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: Seacrest show, then I was full time mid day on

576
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: a ALL station. So I would basically wake up super

577
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: early in the morning track that midday shift and then

578
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: go over to my desk at the secret studio and

579
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: do my job there. Did you know fun fact pop

580
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: up videos poop that when we were doing this show, Uh,

581
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: it really started to gain some steam. Probably had about

582
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: a hundred affiliates. Eddie and I were also doing Afternoon

583
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: Is on a rock station under fake names, and we

584
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: never said it really Yeah, it was pretty cool. I

585
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: was like a Mexican dude. We had like a bad accent,

586
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: really is missing their bones? Yes, yes, it was me

587
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: and at the time my assistant and Eddie and it

588
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: was Slappy the Wonder Boy in Zeus and Eddie would

589
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: jo Slappy the Wonder Boy and Cruz was Zeus and

590
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: Eddie was Chico. Yeah, that is so cool, and we

591
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: did it forever and we're just doing it. We're just

592
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: going to my office for there a studio and get

593
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: out in thirty five minutes. We were yeah while doing

594
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: the Bones show. Yeah yeah, yeah, we just did. After

595
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: the shift we walk in and we thought it was

596
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: hilarious and we would play we need to play. This

597
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: is a good one. I like this one. It slappy

598
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: the one. This one was really good your Chico Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Us, Yeah,

599
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: I like Bones. That's pretty rad. That's really cool. So

600
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: we did that for a while. I just can pop

601
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: up videos over. Um. So you want to go to

602
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: l A. Do you have a job first? No? So

603
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: I quit that job as well. Um. And at that

604
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: point I was with my wife, I want to say

605
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: current wife, but my forever wife, my my soul mate,

606
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: and she had seen what this job had done to me,

607
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: the hours that I put into it, versus the compensation

608
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: I was receiving in the way I was being treated.

609
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: She's like, look, I support you. You want to go

610
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: to l A. I'll stay here in San Francisco with

611
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: my family. And she had a good job in the city,

612
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: paid really really well. It's like, look, you go ahead

613
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: and go and if it works out. I'll come down

614
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: there and meet you. If it doesn't work out, then

615
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: at least come back here and we'll figure it out.

616
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: So I moved down to l A. And within a

617
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: few days I had a connection and I got a

618
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: job by Dr Phil Show where I was running and

619
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: doing p a work um and that. While I was

620
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: doing that, I got a phone call from my guy

621
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: named Dennis Clark, who I met in San Francisco, and

622
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I know you're in l A. I

623
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: heard you left. He goes, uh, he goes sit tight.

624
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: I got something for you. Do you ever meet Dr Phil? Yeah,

625
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Yeah, thumbs out, thumbs down, thumbs

626
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: in the middle. Good at. I mean, I always hate

627
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: to say about people because you just never know their

628
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: mood that day. And he always seemed like he's very

629
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: busy and his goal was to get in and get out.

630
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: So I can't really say I didn't like the guy.

631
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: I just can say that he was just there. You're

632
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: not saying you dislike him, but you are saying you

633
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: didn't like him. Yeah, it was. It wasn't different on it. Yeah,

634
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: he seemed like he was just trying to get do

635
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: his job and go home. It sounds like you didn't

636
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: have a lot of time to get to know him. Yeah,

637
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: just what it got to know. But he was living

638
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: up in a Barly Hills mansion, like we had a

639
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: different lifestyle. I was a runner and he was the

640
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: host of the show. So Dennis Clark, who I know

641
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: as well, hits you up and says, we got a

642
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: job for you. What's the job? And then as the

643
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: supervising producer for Seacrest National Show. And I was like,

644
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: holy crap, this is really cool. I'll entertain this. So

645
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: it started off and I built onto. It was basically

646
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: it was very bare minimum. You basically took the local

647
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: show and you had a team of editors and a

648
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: writer and stripped it down road pickups approved the edits

649
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: and they shipped it out and then dealt with some affiliates.

650
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Very basic, very easy, good paying job. It was much.

651
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: It was much better than Dr Phil show and working

652
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. So yeah, it was fine. It wasn't

653
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: the greatest, but it definitely paid much better, so I

654
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: was cool with it. Would you say you were thriving

655
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: or just starting to do better than surviving? Um, I

656
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: would say starting to do better than surviving? L A

657
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: is expensive. That's the thing too. If if I made

658
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: this salary anywhere else, I'd be great, But in l

659
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: A it was very expensive with rent and just the

660
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: cost of living was really high. Drugs, drugs, Yeah, Hooker's process.

661
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: So you are working with Ryan. Did our paths ever

662
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: cross before you came here? There was a couple of times.

663
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: There was I think one time when you were doing

664
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: but I didn't know you. So there was one time

665
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: you came by. I recognized you because they're like, oh,

666
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: it's Bobby, and I was like, oh, it's Bobby. And

667
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: then I googled and figured it out and uh, you

668
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: were what was it? What was I doing working in

669
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: the building? Well, you were I think in the building

670
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: tracking or doing something because you were doing dance with

671
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: us ours I believe. And you came over and I

672
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: think you're looking for Tanya UM. Which that's a funny

673
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: story too about their producer UM. And you were you

674
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: came to the black glass room looking for somebody, and

675
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: I guess that we were tracking and recording, and so

676
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: you like waved and left. But I knew that there

677
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: was a moment on that show that we were trying

678
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: to connect Tanya with you. That was that wasn't gonna happen. Yeah,

679
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna happen. But but they but she was

680
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: trying to and they were trying to not saying you

681
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: reached out for it or anything, but they were trying

682
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: to make it happen. But and I was gonna put

683
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: it on the National Show and the local producer, who

684
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: I think has a crush on her, he got really

685
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: but hurt about it, and he was like, I ticked

686
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: it off, We're not airing that, And I said, f him.

687
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: So I put on the National Show anyways, because him

688
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: and I didn't get along. We butt heads a little bit. Interesting. Yeah,

689
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: So that was our first run in first run, in

690
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: the second run in was it was actually right before

691
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: I took this job, very very close to it. We're

692
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: at a hotel. I was at the bar and um,

693
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: it's this hotel that's in Hollywood at the corner of

694
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: right near the mall. You know, the what's that big mall,

695
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: Beverly Hill Mall. Whatever. Anyway, there's a hotel Crosstreet from

696
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: the mall, and we were over at that. We were

697
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: at the bar, and when I was in the interviewing process,

698
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: before I had actually even got to you or anyone,

699
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: it was just kind of behind the scenes of I

700
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: may make this move. I said, the bar with some

701
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: friends and and you were sitting in another area, just

702
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: chilling by yourself, and to look over and they're like

703
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: and then my friend John Manuel was like, Hey, it's Bobby.

704
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, look over, so because that's a

705
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: weird coincidence, and I was like, yeah, you should go

706
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: over and say hid. And I was like, no, I'm

707
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna say anything, and he goes

708
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: all right, and then we end up walking sort of

709
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: together toward the elevator to go up and you win

710
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: another elevator. I win another. All that happened, you didn'tven

711
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: say hello. I didn't say anything because I was like,

712
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know, you can lose it, just stay hi.

713
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: But I didn't know. I was by myself, just chilling

714
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: somewhere by yourself. And then I think I think it

715
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: was maybe Jessica at some point came over, uh your

716
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: syste yeah exactly, yeah, and she came over and and

717
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: did something and you like went away. Huh Yeah, I'm

718
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: chilling at a hotel by yourself, weirdo, Scoopa. Steve didn't

719
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: even say hi to you guys. Well I wanted to

720
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: when I felt weird by myself all the time, but

721
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: not not as much anymore. But pre Caitlin a life,

722
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: they're just chilling on your phone. You give me a

723
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: look like who the hell is this guy? And I'm

724
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: just kidding, Okay, I'll probably get you look like please

725
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: not a friend, anybody, anybody my friend? Actually, you had

726
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: that thing and I had this like gut feeling you

727
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: probably just happened all you before we were sitting there.

728
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: You want to say hi to somebody, could be anybody

729
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: of any capacity, and you just have this feeling you

730
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: should say it, and you should say it, and you

731
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: don't say it, and I just almost like threw up

732
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not gonna do this. I'm

733
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: just gonna leave it. So I didn't know Scooba, but

734
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: he was recommended by a couple of different people that

735
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: I trust, and I was like, okay, great, So Scooba

736
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: flies in. We interview was fantastic. Interviewed like three or

737
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: four people that all were highly recommended, and because I

738
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: had always just hired people that I knew or trained,

739
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, for me to grow, I

740
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: need somebody that knows things other than what I know,

741
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: because I only know what I figured out myself. And

742
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: so offered to Scuba. He was like, I need more money.

743
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: But also on the on the quiet side, I was like,

744
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Scooba just telling me you you need more money. I was like,

745
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: don't don't take the first deal, like hold out because

746
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: I knew we were going to get him, but I

747
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: also wanted him to squeeze him for as much as

748
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: he could get what was he available or how No,

749
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: but that was a whole other thing. He wasn't He

750
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: was working with Ryan, and so I reached out to

751
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Ryan and was like, hey, I would love to talk

752
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: to Scuba. But Ryan's team loves Scuba so much they

753
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: didn't really want to get rid of Scuba. And so

754
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: there was this whole month or so. I was like,

755
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: I'd like to have Scuba, and they were like, we

756
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: don't want you to have scuba and finally I was like,

757
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: it would mean a lot to me because I want

758
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: to elevate him. This will be literally the biggest position.

759
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Finally Ryan call was like, Okay, you can have Scooba,

760
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: but it's a little type for a bit. It was. Yeah,

761
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: it was almost a good month and a half, two

762
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: months going back and forth, and I had to wait

763
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: for Ryan because Ryan was on vacation at the moment,

764
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: and then when he came back, and then we eventually

765
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: had to have the conversation over the phone, which wasn't

766
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: what I wanted. I wanted to talk to him face

767
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: to face because I have a lot of respect from

768
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: him and he really helped me out with my career

769
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: at that moment and did a lot for me and

770
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from him, and it it was pretty

771
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: cool to work with Ryan seacrest Um. And we had

772
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: that weird conversation on the phone where I kept cutting

773
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: out and I would say something, go, what's that. I

774
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: had all planned out, like bullet points of what I

775
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: wanted to say, and I had to keep saying it

776
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: over and over and over, and eventually I was like, God,

777
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get what I'm trying to say. But

778
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: at the end he kind of understood what it's also,

779
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to hear you is that you want

780
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: to grow. You're looking to move your family a different

781
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: location and increase your pay. I'm like, hey, he goes,

782
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm totally cool with that. I hate to see you go.

783
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: I love you, you work hard, You're one of the

784
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: best employees on my team. But if this is what

785
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: you want, I give you my blessing. And I was like, perfect, cool,

786
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: That's what I was looking for, was his blessing. And

787
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: then he called me. I was like, yeah, fine, you know,

788
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: I was like, you think, thank you? Yeah. So I

789
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: moved over um, and here you are. Now, how do

790
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: you feel a year? And this last year has been

791
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: weird though, so it's kind of hard to It hasn't

792
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: been extremely normal, but it hasn't been for anyone, but

793
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: you've almost put your entire existence here abnormal. It has

794
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: been if the abnormal has become normal, it's been weird

795
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: because you come to the city and it's a fun,

796
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: cool city to go out and do things and check

797
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: things out, and you really can't. And my wife, we

798
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: have a kid, and she was pregnant throughout this pandemic,

799
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: and so I was also very paranoid about going anywhere

800
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: and seeing anything. And you meet labels and people and

801
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: everyone's wearing a mask, so you don't know what anyone

802
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: looks like. You meet him six seven times. It's been

803
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: a really weird year, but it's been a cool year,

804
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: and it's helped me grow a lot as a person

805
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: and as an employee. So it's been weird, but it's

806
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: been cool and I'm down with it. I another kid,

807
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: get two kids now? Yeah? Um, And you talked about

808
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: Dr Phil, I talked about Ryan Secret. What about me?

809
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: Thumbs up? Thumbs down? Now you're great, your thumbs up.

810
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: What's the hardest part of executive producing my show? About me?

811
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: What's the hardest part about me? About you? Personally? About

812
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: me as a talent? Like what's the what are you

813
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: constantly like, oh my god, I don't know how I'm

814
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna get this or get him to do this, or like,

815
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: what is the the thing that you go to your

816
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: wife and complain the most about me? Well, I don't

817
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: complain to her because this is the one job I

818
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: will say. I haven't complained about anything because I finally

819
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: found a position where I feel like, okay, this is

820
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: like you talked about, it's a great position, it's a

821
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: growing position, it's a show that's thriving. There are a

822
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: lot of people when I got this job like, damn, dude,

823
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: you got the position, like that's the show to be

824
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: on because that show is growing and the company believes

825
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: in it. And I've noticed that through my conference calls

826
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: and meetings. This is the show the company is backing

827
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: and believes them, which is great. So I made the

828
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: right decision. I think. One thing, um, and it's also

829
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: my problem too, is because you're someone who has done

830
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of it yourself, and because you've you know,

831
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: you've even told me we had meetings before in the past,

832
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: like hey man, there was one time I had seven

833
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: commerses and I was running this and doing this whole

834
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: thing and figuring out everything on my own. You have that.

835
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: It's that kind of personality where you're like, look, this

836
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: is me, this is my baby. It's tough to let go.

837
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: But you even preface it. When I had the interview,

838
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, look man, there's a group of people

839
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: that we've been together for a long time. This is

840
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to jump in. Somebody knew everyone's

841
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: been together for ten plus years. You know, you're the

842
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: new guy. You got to kind of find your way

843
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: in and I found my way, and I feel like

844
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: with pretty much everybody, Um, I would say everyone, yeah,

845
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: except for Mike. Mike doesn't seem really like doesn't Yeah,

846
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: It's okay though, just um. So it's been the control

847
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: that Yeah, me going and still need control, yes, and

848
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: I but I but I'm also a person to understands

849
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 1: that because I'm also the exact same personality type. So

850
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: if I didn't have that type of personality, I'd be like, man,

851
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: what the hell do Why does he just give me

852
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: a little more control? But I understand that, and I

853
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: also understand this is a long term game and it's

854
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: a building the relationship and getting you to trust me,

855
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: which I feel like that has grown over this last

856
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: year of gaining some sort of trust and also just

857
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: letting you know, like, hey, look, I would never crap

858
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: on the show. I would never ruin it. I would

859
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: never do anything that would jeopardize you or this show.

860
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: So I hope that over this next few years that

861
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: we continue to grow and build on that so you

862
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: can get more trust to me, and I understand that.

863
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: I get that. I'm totally fine with that. I do

864
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: feel I've gotten a little better at it, though you

865
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: have a little bit yeah, yeah, a little bit. In

866
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: the beginning, it was I was like, damn, I pitched

867
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: ideas or things or say stuff for even just like

868
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: little things like within the show content, and I'm like, okay,

869
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: all right, and I would beat myself down on like,

870
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: I get it. This is show, this is your show.

871
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: It's got your name on it. I respect that a

872
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: hunter and ten percent um. So I just for me,

873
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a process to to

874
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: kind of just get you to really trust me to

875
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: where we can have a relationship to where all right, cooy,

876
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: you got it, this is your thing. I want to

877
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: do like Maddie in the morning Mike and just walking

878
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: everything's done. Yeah, I think I want that, But then

879
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: I can never do you can't do that. It's tough.

880
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: And I understand that maybe it'd be cool. There are

881
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: a lot of personalities that have that where they walk

882
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: in and there's a stack of papers and it's all

883
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: organized from top of show dan to show and they

884
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: literally look at it, read it and just go from

885
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: one to the next, one to the next. But then

886
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: those shows don't have the life that this show has.

887
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: So I've cost also come to understanding that that's okay

888
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: that it is in that way, because this show wouldn't

889
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: be where it is if if you weren't more in

890
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: control of it, because this is your brand, this is

891
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: your product, and I feel like the way we do

892
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: it is is actually it's okay and it's fine, and

893
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: it works. That's better than okay and fine, you know

894
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean it is a mediocre, it's fair,

895
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: you know, milk toast, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Well, okay.

896
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: On the opposite, what's the best thing? The best thing? Um,

897
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: I would say that this show, it has been inclusive

898
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: and they have invited me in and not on the

899
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: personal level like teach me to shot gun Eddie but

900
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't hang out, but at work, I would say

901
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: this team has been more inviting and more welcoming and

902
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: more open to me coming on of the show being

903
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: the guy that's the newest of this show, and that's

904
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: been the coolest and everyone has been accepting of me

905
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: and and has allowed me to come in and work

906
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: with me and work well with me, which has been cool.

907
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: We're gonna end this on one Eddie question. Okay, Eddie,

908
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: what's the one question that you'd like to ask Cooper Steve.

909
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: It's Friday night, you got nothing to do? What are

910
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: you ordering to eat? And what are you gonna watch

911
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: on TV? Wow? Okay, he starts to cry. All that

912
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: other stuff doesn't do any toe down. He starts to

913
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: get emotional. My mom wants pasta. Um, but if I'm

914
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: in this city, I don't really know what I'm eating.

915
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: But if I'm eating in a city that has my

916
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: food that I want, I'm eating at Little Taiocha and Vanye, California.

917
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: What is that? What is that? It's Thai food, Um,

918
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: Thai food Vans, California. They got this amazing orange chicken.

919
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: They got this pork, this fried pork belly with buck

920
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: choi and Chinese broccoli dipped in this like amazing black sauce.

921
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is that some sort of

922
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: like soy sauce mixed with pison sauce. A couple that things.

923
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: Uh they're hot drop soup. Uh, they're Vietnamese coffee or

924
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: tea whatever it is. And probably watching I would say

925
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: Law and Order, um, Special Victims Unit or Criminal Intent. Brothers, sisters.

926
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm the oldest of four twin brother and sister and

927
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: little sister. Parents still alive. Mom's alive. Dad passed way recently.

928
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: But we didn't have a relationship, so step dad. I

929
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: had three stepdads. Wow, that was cool. No, it wasn't.

930
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 1: On the next episode, I've been married twice. Its signed

931
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: with your forever wife. Correct. Okay, I feel like Edde,

932
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: you learned something here. Yeah. Man, I'm telling you, this

933
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: guy's full of stories and and we're gonna go on

934
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: and on and then like in a few months ago,

935
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna find something. We would be like what, Oh

936
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, we gotta talk about this, more about this,

937
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. Dude. He's got all kinds

938
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: of stories, like the man, the mansion he lived in,

939
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: things like that, and then like like even my life

940
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: the other day was just like he really found dead

941
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: bodies in his house, well not bodies, dead people. Yeah,

942
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: you can't make it up, though, I just found nine

943
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: dead bodies, a monkey and uh talking dog. Stop Like

944
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: how I just made that up? Though? I came here

945
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: in a spaceship. Okay, all right, Scool Steve. Thank you.

946
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: I follow Scooba Steve on Instagram, Instagram, Twitter, y, you

947
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: don't know my handles. It's at at Scuba Steve Radio.

948
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: I did see the B team Facebook page. Now people

949
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: follow you the other day? Yeah, yeah, they were cool.

950
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: You don't. I don't need facebooks. I don't check that out. No, no,

951
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: they were. They have a Facebook. I don't do Facebook.

952
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: They have a Facebook group. It's actually the only good

953
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: Facebook group with our show because our show page is evil.

954
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: But um, they were like, I gotta go follow Scoob

955
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: Steve on Instagram. Awesome, thank you much, followers. All right,

956
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: that's it, thank you very much, Scoob Steve, every buddy