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Speaker 1: And now it's Deb. Hi, Deb, come morning.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I don't yeah, I'm okay. I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 1: But Deb, what do you want to say? Welcome and

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening to this whatever this is.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I love your show. I'm on my way

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Speaker 2: to work and I was listening to you guys talking

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Speaker 2: about the dating apps, and you know how intentional people are.

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Speaker 2: I've been on Match and e Harmony, on paid subscriptions

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Speaker 3: Than a year.

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Speaker 2: And if he had scammer after scammer, ask me for money,

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's on the paid ones, That's correct. I

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like a buyer beware or

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Speaker 4: Right, and Facebook and the dating apps dating site also,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm starting to think that this is not

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Speaker 2: just not the parent I need to take. Yeah, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people take hands Syria. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I mean again, it's free. There's no investment. You never

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Speaker 1: And yeah, my sister met her husband on twenty of fish.

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Speaker 2: They just got married, so I think it can happen.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's very seldom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Depth, thank you and good luck out there, you too,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the last person I tried to date I

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Speaker 3: Did you ask for consent?

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Speaker 2: Can we make love? Can I use this on my radio?

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Speaker 4: Show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they also have to sign a non disclosure

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Speaker 1: Knowing that there is this sort of lingering, I don't

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Speaker 3: So I feel like the difference is that these women

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Speaker 4: But I would still go. I would, like I said,

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Speaker 3: It's all about just seeing what's out there vibing, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right. This is how it works every time. Yeah, Rufio,

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Speaker 4: Uh, Kiki thought you know I'm not going what No,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going because simply for the fact, why did

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Speaker 2: What was the reason for you to tell me that? Lady?

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Speaker 2: So no, I'm not going nowhere with you.

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Speaker 1: But I've learned that toxicity is just as powerful or

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Speaker 1: You gotta just let it go, like you either are

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