WEBVTT - Episode 271 "Ivory Scott" 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.280 Word with me here. You know, b T. It's just 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:06.440 so low shout of O C T. 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.360 Color what we see whole game read the boer be 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:11.160 something you can't stand on their own. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:11.520 SI. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.160 I already know you can't with me because up with 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:22.560 the squad on me, they get at they called me Helo. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.960 Baller Alert Welcome to The Ballert Show. Podcasts available everywhere 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.479 you get your podcast. Please continue to like, subscribe, and 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.280 share our YouTube page at baller Alert TV. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:34.080 I go by the name of Ferrari Simmons. I go 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.080 by the name you know BT. With that, I've rescotten 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:43.160 the building. The tallest writer I've ever seen? How tall 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.800 are you? About six seven? You gotta be playing? Why 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:46.839 you're not playing basketball? 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.239 I do that too, Okay, what I mean just like 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.800 now you're the taller song right I've ever met. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.240 Him? And Don Canada are like super like over six 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.360 ft five? How taller? You know? 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:03.440 Howm damn? Now we appreciate you because. 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.200 We had you came and kicked it with us at 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:11.920 the BT the media. You know, of course we're appreciative 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.360 of here if you're coming and pulling up in person. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:18.160 Now now now we can really get into it. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.479 You know he writing a lot of people's songs because 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:21.679 you just see his jewelry. 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:23.559 That's how you can tell a song. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.360 Started making Rose Gold playing Jane presidential? 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:32.080 What type of dominance that begets? Little begets? It's actually 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.040 the City sixtieth edition. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.520 Wise, So you know, you can't just can't get what 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.440 he can't just watch and you can't just get that one. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.920 It's what you're saying, No, you can't. He got too 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.360 watches on? Yeah, yeah, now what's the other watch? Sir? 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.160 It's a p okay okay, man, it's light though, it's 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.960 just like coming outside listen. 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.680 Take you to start writing songs. I think I think 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.160 I need to start. That's that Beyonce Sharon start a 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:58.920 new profession. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.240 Yeah for sure, for sure. It took a lot of 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.040 work though though it wasn't easy. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.920 For Let's get into it. You know, tell us a 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.760 little bit about yourself, about your background. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.160 Well, I'm a songwriter, you know, as you know y'all 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:13.320 written for people like Ed Sharing, Little Dirk, Young, Blue, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.120 Chris Brown, Madonna, Beyonce. Like I had a lot of 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.160 you know, big songs, big records, you know what I'm saying, 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.720 And like, you know, just transitioning to being an artist. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.080 Now drop my own projects. But before that, where are 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:29.000 you from? I'm from Chicago, let's start then, Yeah, it's 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.880 southside of Chicago. Grew up you know what I'm saying 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.960 in the trenches or whatever, sixty six and Hermitage, and 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.000 I basically started writing, like I tell this story, you 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:38.560 know what I'm saying a lot of times, like about 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.000 like how my dad, like how I learned how to 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.280 play piano. But what I don't say a lot is 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.040 like basically, like I started writing songs, my dad used 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.960 to make me read the dictionary. You know what I'm saying, 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.720 Like every instance before I go outside, he used to 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.320 make me like learn like twenty words. So like when 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.120 it come to write songs, like basically like I can 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.799 think of any rhyming word, you know what I'm saying 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.560 on the fly. So it's like that helped me get 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.240 into like being able to be a good songwriter. Like 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.040 you was just saying, like how long it it takes 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.920 shit read the dictionary doing that? 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.600 This is at a young age, So when did you 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.040 start writing songs? 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.239 Like, well, I started writing songs when I was like ten, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.280 like ten years old. Like first, like for yourself or 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.520 for somebody else. It's like it started from it really 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.200 started for like writing songs for females and shit like that. 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.200 Like I was like writing songs and then I was 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.520 like damn, Like I got into the bag of like 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.840 writing songs not just for male artists, but then like 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.000 I could write a song for a girl too. And 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.400 I was just like looking up to people like the 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.160 dream Neo, you know what I'm saying. R Kelly, Like 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.440 you know what I'm saying, Kanye, like seeing like how 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.960 they were able to like get in the scene like 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.600 by being behind the scenes. Like I just was like 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.480 infatuated with the concept of being a star that nobody knew, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.080 you know what I'm saying. Like, so that's why I 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.240 like A what a love really feel at? For real? 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.960 What was that moment that you know struck you to 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:58.880 write your first song? 0:03:59.000 --> 0:03:59.880 Did you could? 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.280 Was you in high school and you had a breakup 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.440 or was you with a crew of people who were 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.640 musicians and you say I'll be the songwriters? 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.800 Actually, Like I played football, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:15.680 in high school and I would hope So I played football, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.200 and what I used to do after football practice, I 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.520 would on the way home. There was a guy named 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.880 Mark Pratt, and he had like a studio in his 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.760 basement and basically like he would let the football players 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.599 like come over and make music. But like a couple 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.599 of weeks in like I was like the last person 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.320 down there. Like I used to come down there after 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.200 practice every day and just like write songs and like 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.000 perfect my craft and like that's that's basically like what 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.080 I really fell in love, like cause like coming up, 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.400 like it was a real struggle, and like music was 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.320 like my escape from reality. You know what I'm saying. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.480 It's what allowed me to be able to have that 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.279 outlet when I you know, just needed you know, I 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.640 needed a hug sometimes, like on some real shit. And 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.480 I feel like music get people, Music gets people through things, 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.880 you know what I'm saying. So that's when I really 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.880 like fell in love, like doing it for real. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.680 Yeah, So fast forward and so you started doing your 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.920 own music. Yeah, what was your first big placement? Man, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.359 I really had like a bunch of placements at one time. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.480 Like when I did my publishing deal with APG locked 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.880 in with hit Maker, I basically had like I probably 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.080 had like twenty songs come out like the first like 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.000 week like that, I was like getting popping, like it 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.880 wasn't even like a one song. And then it was 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.320 just like but you got to remember, like before I 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.559 had my first placement, I was writing like ten songs 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.480 a day every day, you know what I'm saying, like NonStop, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:33.400 even before I have my. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.760 Deal for people around the town or just for. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.760 Just writing songs. It's building up my catalog. That's why 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.520 I always tell like songwriters, like you got to build 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.240 up your catalog. If somebody called me for a song 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.120 for making right now, I probably got thirty that I 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.120 could send them, opposed to me being like all right, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.719 let me go work on something. Sometimes you like catch 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.080 a hit in a moment that you just gotta be 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.400 ready for. So always believe in like being prepared, like 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.880 way ahead. So like I'll building on my catalog, so 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.440 nobody particular, just like just penning records. You know what 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:04.960 I'm saying, like sharpening my sword. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.360 How did you initially get the interest of your publishing company? 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.000 Before Hit Maker, I ain't have no songs out, I 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.520 had no place. Like it's insane to get a publishing 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.360 deal without a placement at least one, you know, what 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.800 I'm saying or even being in the business. But Ray Daniels. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:26.360 I met Ray Daniels. Yep, I met Ray Daniels for real, 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.960 like this. The crazy story about Ray is basically like Ray. Like. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.039 I had a meeting with Ray like before, and he 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.320 was like, man, you know what, if you work on 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.479 your hooks, you'll be one of the greatest songwriters. This 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.480 was like six months before I saw him again. And 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.560 that's why I always tell people like, man, listen, if 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.159 you get that, no, go back to the drawing board. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.720 Reinvent yourself, get better. You know what I'm saying. Don't 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.000 ever think like, oh, they tripping because they don't like 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.000 my music. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes you got 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:54.839 to go back. He basically told me, like, work on 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.679 your hooks. You are already a worseman. Work on your hooks. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.719 Work on the part that brings people in. Two months later, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.640 I had another meeting with Ray Daniels, sat down for 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.200 a set down with him, and I went to his office. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:07.920 The first day I sat in his office, he wrote 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.360 me a check right there for twenty grand At the 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.760 time when I was at the time, I was doing 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.960 construction for work. You know what, I'm saying. MYNJA was 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.040 still coming home writing ten songs a night. I was 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.280 doing construction, and like I had like a big opportunity, 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.240 you know what I'm saying, to go and like work 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.160 for Disney, you know what I'm saying. In Orlando. But 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.640 Ray was basically like, man, say no to that job. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.480 You're a songwriter. You belong in his business. Once I 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:36.040 took that check, he let me put my studio in 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.160 the room next to his office at the twelve Buildings. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.880 So if you ever been over to that building, it 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.520 ain't it ain't sound proof or nothing. Keys was in there. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.320 It was a lot of real, real keys. Yeah, you 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.040 know what I'm saying, Like was in that building. He 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.400 let me put my studio in the room right next 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.080 door to him, so I would be like making song, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.840 got the song, got the song, just putting in that work. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.080 So even after I ended up signing the radar, I 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:01.640 still had to put in that work. It wasn't just 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.480 like here here here. I still was putting in that work, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.360 going in there, clocking in, going to work, doing my job, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.680 coming back to the studio. Until one day Ray had 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.240 went out to La met with Mike, Karen and was like, yo, 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.160 he Actually the crazy thing is he went out there 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.800 to show Mike Hearn somebody else. That's why I know, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.280 like you know what I'm saying, God got his hand 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.280 on my life because he went out there and he 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.320 went to show Mike Carron a whole other artist that 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.680 he said. Now Mike Karen said no to He was like, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.040 show me something else, and I was the something else 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.120 that he had. So it was like, and Mike Karen, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.880 Mike Karen is the president of APG, he's been he 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.040 responsible for like ed Sharon Bruno mar like he a 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.920 big deal. What'd you do with the twenty thousand survived? 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.040 Everybody asked me that question, like but people think like 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.400 twenty thousand. You know what I'm saying today, that ain't 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.720 no money if you're handling your business, you know, But 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.360 to a kid like might look at it and be like, hey, 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.400 I'm about to go do this. Somebody go do that, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.360 and then before you know what, they back like knocking 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.520 at their door like, man, you see me another ten thousand. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.560 But but that's how people be blowing their money. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.600 I asked you that because I realized in the industry, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.800 when people get a check, whether it's a little check 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:13.520 or a big check. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.160 They quit their job and they think that they made it. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.439 I like the fact that you got the money and 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:19.920 you said, man, I'm still about to keep going to 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.760 work and then coming back doing my music. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.640 Man, you have to like you have to have financial literacy, man. 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.320 But that's that's really what you know, most people like 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.679 lacking because you got to think like people that do 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.320 music most of the time, like they come from a 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.200 poverty stricken environment. You know, we're not taught about credit. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.080 We're not talking about the importance of importance of taking 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.760 care of your money and handling your business, paying your 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.560 bills first and then getting the drip. We weren't taught that. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.520 You know. We taught go get the new ja's you 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.080 know what I'm saying, because they dropping, you know, the whip. Yeah. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.600 So it's not taught that in our community. So it's like, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.959 you know, we all of course we made mistakes. I'm 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.960 not gonna say I ain't gonna buy something with the 0:09:56.000 --> 0:10:00.000 twenty grand What did you bott What did I na? Man? 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.440 And I like, I always wanted the ice ice, So 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.360 I ain't gonna get no chain or nothing. I went 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.120 and I bought a car. I bought a car. I 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.920 think I think I took like ten thousand of it 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.360 and went and bought a car. It was a nineteen 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.720 seventy two Shavy nov Okay, so that was like she 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:23.120 bought some transportation. Yeah, in the classic cars. Yeah. No, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.760 I actually build like muscle cars, you know what I'm saying, 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.840 Like I build muscle cars, track race cards all that. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.520 So how'd you get with him? Maker? Mike Carron actually 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.559 put me in here make on texts. When I did 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.280 my publishing deal, he put me in here, make on texts. 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.439 He was like, you know, guaranteed magic. The first night 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.400 I went to the studio with Hit, we we went 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.280 in the studio, we did like ten songs. It's me 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:49.280 Hit Krashan And we did like ten songs that first night, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.520 and like we probably got like three placements out of 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.000 those first ten songs we did. But like, bro, we 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.559 basically been locked in every since, Like you know what 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.319 I'm saying, Like it been like some real you know, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.680 we're from the same town, so like it being like 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.959 some some real brother shit, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.760 not just like helping me get into situations, but like 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.400 you know, giving me the knowledge, you know what I'm 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.440 saying of the game, Like you got somebody that came 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.320 from being an artist transitioned into being a producer, changing 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.439 his whole you know what I'm saying, identity and that 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:17.760 you can learn a lot from a man and have 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.080 done that in his business. It's still successful. Branded himself 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.000 for real, for real. So you know what I'm saying. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.160 I was blessed to be, you know, tapping with him 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.480 and then like you know, other relationships happen. You know, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.679 just throw me just putting in that work day in 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.480 day out, you know what I'm saying, being persistent. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.679 We'll be right back with more of a Baller Alert Show. 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.880 You're listening to a special edition of the Baller Alert Show. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.800 That what's up? It's your boy, Iris Scott and you've 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.720 now tuned into the Baller Alert Show. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.439 So you signed the radar. Yeah, you got to check 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:51.000 for twenty thousand. You're working, you have purpose, you know 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.560 what you want to do? Yeah, when did these twenty 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.360 placements come? So? 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.840 Man, it had to be okay? So so I went 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.400 I went to La to go to APG, and I 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.000 didn't get signed to APG right away, So I went 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.640 and I went out there and Mike Karen basically was like, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.480 you know, here's a studio. You know what I'm saying, 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.040 show me what you got. He's like, act like you ain't. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.440 You ain't play one song for me. And so I 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.760 basically like I had the opportunity to do a session 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.960 in the morning, midday, and then at night, but I 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.320 took all sessions. I took every session, So I worked 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.199 three sessions a day. I was doing like ten songs 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.800 a session, going crazy. That's thirty songs a day. And 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.880 I was out there for like a month. Wow, mind 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.240 you right the day before when I when I went 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.560 down there. The day before I went down there, I 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.360 broke my foot skateboarding. So I went down there with 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.640 a boot, like you know, a little strap up boot 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.520 they go on your foot. So I, mind you, I 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.760 got a boot. I'm in La probably you know what 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.839 I'm saying, Like moving around studio to studio. You know 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.800 what I'm saying on crutches with a broke foot and 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.080 basically trying to secure my destiny. You know what I'm saying, 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.280 because you know, like your moments only only come every 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.120 so often. And I knew for sure like this was 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.800 this was my moment it to be you know Jordan 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.640 at the free throw line. So like I went down there, 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.640 broke foot and all I was in the studio Mai 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.800 my foot swelling in pain. But I was going through it, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.000 you know what I'm saying, And I did what I 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.920 had to do. When I want to skateboard for basically, 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.240 bro like I want to do everything, like I don't 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.160 want to try whatever for So what songs came out 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.680 of it was that the twenty that eventually yeah so 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.720 so no, so when I when I went down there, 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.480 I wrote those songs and then I those songs just 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:33.040 kind of like started manifesting into like other situations. What 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:37.480 were some of them songs? Trippy read Rich motherfucker that 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.080 was a big one with with Polo g Dirk Peru 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.840 was one of those songs. We did Baddest in San Francisco. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.800 I mean that's the record. Yes, that's the year we 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.440 did the Baddest. Yeah, Baddest, Yeah, we did that in 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.560 San Francisco. But I mean it was just kind of 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.080 like all over the place like Madonna, like Beyonce, like 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.720 it was just like that's crazy, it's hitting me with 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:01.040 the wave. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.480 And one time, So mentally, how what's the space here 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.199 are you in mentally at this particular moment, because. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.320 Mind you, like people think you getting placements and you 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.680 rich instantly, but you ain't getting paid until next year 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.559 off any of those hits. So you can be walking 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.640 around with records number one and still basically be not 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.720 having no brand. So like, I'm in a lifestyle and 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.400 I'm around the people that's having the motion, having the money, 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.080 and I got the SIU broke, but I'm still broke, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.000 you know what I'm saying. I'm still grinding. I'm still 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.560 having to go pick up contracting jobs and build frame 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.560 houses on the side while I got records on the radio, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.120 you know, so most of the time, like people might 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.520 think like, oh you hot. So of course all your 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.120 family's like, oh he rich. You know what I'm saying. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.600 But I see you got the pictures with the celebrities, 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:51.080 they see all that. Yeah, the urt, Yeah for sure, 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.720 that's definitely. So what was that? What was that big check? 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:01.240 The biggest? You know, you getting a lot of checks, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.760 he said, the biggest, biggest. I feel like when I 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.520 first saw the first check from Peru, that's when I 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.320 was a big record. Yeah, when I saw that. When 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.440 I saw that that quarter come around, and that's just 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.760 a quarter. When I saw that quarter come around, I 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.840 was like, and what is a quarter for the audience? 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.200 So a quarter is like yo, it's broken up into quarters, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.440 like four quarters like artists songs for years calendar. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:25.960 you get paid like per quarter. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.280 So is that spring, summer, fall, and winter? 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.080 Yeah? Basically basically, And so was this. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.160 In the millions that you're publishing? Check came in? 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.520 Decent it it was good, six figures. It had changed 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.240 your life, show for show, seven figures, show it had 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.720 changed your life. What'd you go after you after you 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.200 got that check? Man? I went went. I went home 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.680 to Chicago and brought my moms out here. Bout my 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:56.640 mom's a crab in l A from Chicago, Atlanta, Atlanta. Okay. 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.680 I basically moved like my whole family down here. Okay, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:01.080 I'm like super like. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.960 That's actually fivefish because usually yeah, because usually you get 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.120 yourself together first and then but you got a family. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.520 But you gotta think, like I was already still kind 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.880 of like making money, like I already had like you 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.400 know what I'm saying, like property and stuff like that. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.440 When I first like started so like it wasn't like 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.280 I got my publishing deal and I was broke, Like 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.480 I basically had to downgrade my life actually to pursue music. 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.240 Because when I was doing construction, I was making good money, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.440 you know what I'm talking about it, I was making money. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.440 I was making an honest living. So like when I 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.920 took that twenty thousand, I mean it was basically less 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.920 than the salary that I was gonna see like in 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.760 the next couple months anyway, So it was really like, 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.000 you know, God like humbling me and bringing me back down. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.280 I had to go down to come up for real. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.400 Especially living in La for sure, and La balling is 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:46.960 different from. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.160 Georgia bottom, that's true. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.680 But I like you keeping it real, man, because I 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.600 don't I don't like this perception on the internet to 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.680 where it's like people think just because somebody has a 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.040 day job that they're making less money than people that 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.399 are popping on social media in his industry, and a 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.040 lot of times people don't understand it's like a lot 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.800 of these people that have these nine to five jobs 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.800 are making a lot more money than people that you 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.000 really think are successful. 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.720 I mean, like I call it the matrix all the time. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.120 You know what I'm saying, Like, the business is an 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.760 illusion because it has to be. You know, people, it's 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.360 hard for kids to look up to somebody that don't 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.239 feel like they got something that they don't have. So like, 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.600 you know, it's an illusion that artists have to keep 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.360 up of their selves in order to show that, hey, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.040 I'm worthy of you looking up to me. So it's like, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.199 but a man with a regular job, he might be 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.160 getting paper. It's just basically about like what you put 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.720 your ten thousand hours into. If I put my ten 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.000 thousand hours into being a carpenter, I'm gonna get paper 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.040 being a carpenter. It don't You don't got to be 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.960 Like I was just telling my little brother the other 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.320 day play he played football. I was just telling him 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.200 the other day. I'm like, you know, football is great, 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.920 you know what I'm saying, But you gotta chase something 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.919 that is tasting you. You know what I'm saying. I 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.960 agree with that. So you know, you don't got to 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.040 be a superstar, you know what I'm saying, to have money, 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:07.080 you know, so. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.720 You writing all these big records, what makes you say, 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.639 you know what, I want to be an artist. Is 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.240 that something that you initially wanted to do? 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.720 Yeah, I always like looked at myself as an artist 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.640 like I just always like looked at it. Like I 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.119