1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Jetty. 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: We haven't mentioned near as much pure politics today as usual, 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: which I've really, really, really enjoyed. But it, man, it 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: ain't nothing that yesterday when Trump had one of his 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: big cabinet meetings with all the cameras in there and 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: everything like that, that Christy Nolan was sitting down there 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: at the end of the table. Never looked her away, 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: never said a word to her. I mean, that's the 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: biggest story in the country, is what's going on in 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 3: her department. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: And just it was as if she wasn't in the room, 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: just sitting at the end of the table with her 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: colleagen enhanced lips, trembling, trying to smile bravely through the tears. 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah that she was crying, but she was clearly chasing. 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: I wonder what that felt like for her. I mean, 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: she she had to have lots of emotions going through 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: or sitting there. Wow, she was riding crazy high just 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago in Trump world. Yeah, she 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: powerful women, Yes she she uh gonna have a talk 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: show on some channel or something like that. She's got 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: the looks. Maybe a dog training show, now, come on. 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: It was easy, but it was fun. 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: That wouldn't work because she once shot her dogs. I 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: don't think you remember that story. 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. It's strange oversight. It's being a 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: powerful woman. Barry Weiss, who is now in charge of 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: CBS News, unleashed her. Here's what we're gonna do. And 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: I found it very very intriguing, and share some of 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: that with you this hour. 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised by something on CBS News last night. 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: I thought I'd love to talk to Barry Weiss about this. 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: For they were going through the they were interviewing people 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: who are US citizens that Ice had harassed quite a bit. 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: And I hate those stories. It's not good. I mean, 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: people that you know, have all their paperwork or are 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: just flat out US citizens and you know, hauled in 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: or made their lives at least for the day made 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: quite miserable by Ice. And I don't like those stories. 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: But come on, Barry Weiss and CBS News, that's fine, 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: but you also have to throw in Meanwhile, Ice has 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: apprehended eighteen hundred two thousand whatever, the number is violent 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: illegals who were criminals, and they have to leave that 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: out of the story, is to not do the story. 46 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 3: And I don't think they've I don't know, I don't 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: know on the evening newscasts if they've mentioned one time 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: that they are apprehending bad people who shouldn't be in 49 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: our country and doing this other stuff. 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, clearly the story is well, you know what. 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: Peggy Noonan, who often cuts to the heart of things, 52 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: has her column. She points out, Look, ICE is doing 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: what it's supposed to do. It's doing a lot of 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: good stuff. But then it got too rough, too sloppy, 55 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: too paramilitary, too ill trained, and brutal and mean. And 56 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: that's not what we want out of our authorities in 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: the United States. That's not what we are. So maybe 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a little bit as well, 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: plus Berry Weiss's wise words. But first it's time to 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: take fond look back at the week that was. It's 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: cow clips of the week protests erupt after another fatal shooting. 62 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: How many more Americans need to die? Any of us 63 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: grew up reading that story of Anne Frank. Somebody's going 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: to write that children's story about Minnesota, which is interesting. 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: I have some syringes with needles on the end, have 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: them full of sailing or suckson on coin, you know whatever. 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: Whatever. 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: More demonstrators could potentially bring their own weapons. 69 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: You see a man who appears to be pretty and 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: others on the scene shouting at agents who had been 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: blocking an intersection. On January thirteenth. 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 5: Bavino was now returning to be sector chief in Central We. 73 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: Are not surrendering the president's mission and immigration. 74 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Breaking news now just into our CNN News whom we 75 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: are learning. Journalist at former colleague of ours for CNN 76 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: anchor Don Lemon has been taken into custody arrested. 77 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 6: It's clear that the far right in this country that 78 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 6: they have not accepted the results of the Civil War. 79 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: It's just interesting. 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 7: Today we are producing more than three million pages, including 81 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 7: more than two thousand videos and one hundred and eighty 82 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 7: thousand images in total. That means that the department produced 83 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 7: approximately three and a half million pages in compliance with 84 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 7: the Act. 85 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: Wildlife officials in San Francisco have captured a mountain lion 86 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: that was spotted in recent days. 87 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: Mom and Dad have been observed building up their nest, 88 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 5: Jackie laying an egg over the weekend, last Friday night, 89 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 5: and then overnight Jackie laying a second egg. 90 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 7: Which is just interesting if he has announced it's slashing 91 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 7: an additional thirty thousand jobs. 92 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: The Amazon announced a new round of layoffs. 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: TikTok, settling a major social media lawsuit ahead of a 94 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: landmark trial in Los Angeles County, and warning from. 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 7: Pope Leo about the dangers of artificial intelligence. 96 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: Quote affectionate chatbots type one oh one is sixteen hundred 97 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: feet tall. Alex Hanold climbed it without ropes or a 98 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: safety in just ninety minutes. Say up, sir to superbol sixty. Yeah, 99 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: it's clips of the week. So what was that hilarious 100 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: climate change thing you had? Is that what it was? 101 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: Something hilarious? Oh yeah, yeah, the part of the taxpayer 102 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 2: paid for scare the crap out of the kids about 103 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: climate change. Curriculum in schools includes a cartoon rap song. 104 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: We are working on the audio for that as we speak. 105 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: No cool. 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: Anybody go to the Milania movie last night? Is it 107 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: debuted in theaters? 108 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: Oddly? My wife texted me about an hour ago, is 109 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: there a movie about Milania? Out and you guys are 110 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: going on that, going to get dressed up, eat date night. Yeah, yeah, 111 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: she's gonna dress as Malania. I'm gonna dress as Trump. 112 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: Just to h make sure you know. I mock all specials, movies, books, tributes, songs, interviews, 113 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: anything covers with first ladies of all political stripes. I 114 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: don't know why you're asking what the first lady thinks 115 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: about anything personally. 116 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: I just don't get it. I've got to admit to 117 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: a mild curiosity about what life is like, particularly for 118 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: a person like Milan. Uh, it's the White House and 119 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 2: the the inauguration day. I guess there's a big focus 120 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: of it. I don't know why they have a staff. 121 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't get it. 122 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: Actually, it's because we like royal families. Our tendency is 123 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: toward royal families, and so we look at the husband 124 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: and wife. 125 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: Someday the wife and husband, I suppose. 126 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: The kids everything, and to treat them like that or 127 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: a royal family, which is not what I want. I 128 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: want the CEO of the country to be the president, 129 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: part of one of three branches. And I don't know 130 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: anything about Mike Johnson's wife. He's the Speaker of the House. 131 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: It's a very important thing, Congress. I don't know about 132 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: the spouses of anybody in the Supreme Court. That's obviously 133 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: one of your big branches. 134 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: There. Looking at my pocket copy of the Constitution looking 135 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: for a first lady, first lady, maybe that's in the 136 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: first of men. I don't know. Yeah, I know. 137 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: But as I pointed out, the mainstream media had a 138 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: blockade basically on any Millennia coverage first term. She didn't 139 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: get her face on the cover of any magazines, even 140 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: though she's a freaking beautiful model because they hate Trump 141 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: so much. Whereas Michelle and Hillary and all those people 142 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: you got on the covers of all the magazines with 143 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: your new airstyle or pearls are back thanks to Michelle, 144 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: Obama or whatever. 145 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Almost use the word so you do it? Do it? 146 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: I was so close. Oh that Michelle worship was exactly 147 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: that word you're about to use. That's a compound word. 148 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: It starts with bull. Anyway, you know your point about 149 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: kings and queens. Though sometimes I think it's interesting and enlightening, 150 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: it actually reminds me of the thought that what your 151 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: priorities are are what you do. Don't tell me that 152 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: your priorities are X and Y. When you spend all 153 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: your time doing Z, that's your priority. That that you know, 154 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: snap my eyelids open. I've looked at my own life 155 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: in that way. Sure, in the same way, sometimes you 156 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: just have to say, okay, most or many many societies 157 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: governments have been centered around a king and a queen. 158 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: Never mind what you think about monarchy or democracy or 159 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: anything like that, or the magna carta, just think about that. 160 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: Why is that? Because it's undeniably true, it's got to 161 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: be that that's mom and dad. We have an innate 162 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: desire to have mom and dad in charge of our home, 163 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: of our country. Maybe you know that whole priorities thing 164 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: because that was big to me to learn too. 165 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: I don't remember why I read it. It was an economics thing, 166 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: I think, but it's just basically, you know, it's it's 167 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: pretty simple math. Really, It's just what are you spending 168 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: all your time, money, and interest on. And you can 169 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: say the kids are the most important thing in my family, 170 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: But if you spend all your time working and watching sports, 171 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: those are your priorities, no matter what you say about 172 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: the kids. But for a lot of us, if you 173 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: ended up at the end of the day and you 174 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: look to how ay time you spent. Who would ever 175 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: say my priorities are scrolling Twitter. That's my second highest 176 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: priority in my life. My kids and scrolling Twitter. I mean, 177 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: who would ever even put that on the list. But 178 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: I'll bet a lot of days it's what you spent 179 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 3: second or third most time doing. 180 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,479 Speaker 2: Jack. You've brought us to our knees in shame and gratitude, 181 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: shame oftude. 182 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: And young people who they say, like spend on average 183 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: five hours a day on TikTok or whatever, would they say, 184 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: and my priority in life is scrolling TikTok. 185 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: They might actually say that. I don't know. I'llly you 186 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: ground them and take away their phone. But that wouldn't 187 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: be good. Yeah, yeah, think about that, friends, and you 188 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: know we're not judging you. Hell, you should see my life. 189 00:10:53,000 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: It's despicable. I loved hearing that. Like I said, it's 190 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: really it's it's opened my eyes in some ways. God. 191 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: And even if it's like in third or fourth place, 192 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: nobody would say I wouldn't. I would never say, and 193 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: my fourth priority every day is scrolling Twitter. 194 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: Wouldn't really? Yeah, even in the top tens, Yeah, but 195 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure it makes it up there some days. So 196 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: what Barry Weiss said about the transitions at CBS News, which, 197 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: by the way, for what it's worth, in the mortal 198 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: words of the Carpenters, they've only just begun. Uh So 199 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: stay tuned for that. I think I'll find it. 200 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: Speaking of hot musical acts, the Grammys are this Sunday, 201 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: and something interesting I learned about the Grammys today, So 202 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: we've got that for you. I don't think the Carpenters 203 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: are up for any Grammys, but I'll get to that later. 204 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: Stay here. 205 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 3: Trump was sitting there talking about something and their reporters 206 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: are around, and they started asking him about the Epstein files, 207 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: because they've released three million more pages, two thousand videos, 208 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: and one hundred. 209 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: And eighty thousand pictures. Will this our literal numbers. That's 210 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: not Jack saying we're at least like three million pages. No, 211 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: this is three million page actually one hundred and eighty 212 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: thousand pictures been released today, So good god. I hope 213 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: this is the end of it. Speaking of the news media, 214 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: CBS News is now being run by editor in chief 215 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: Barry Weiss of the Free Press Fame, big fans of 216 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: hers around here. She delivered a PowerPoint presentation that outlined 217 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: her view on the state of media and how CBS 218 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: can remain relevant, and I thought a lot of it 219 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: was really interesting. Jack blast In at will. Obviously, she says, 220 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to stand here up here today and 221 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: ask you for your trust. I'm going to earn it, 222 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: just like we have to do with our viewers. That's 223 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: a good start. I like that. What I can give 224 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: you is what I've always tried to give my readers 225 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: as a journalist, transparency, clarity, straight talk. So here it 226 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: is as plain as I can say it. I am 227 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: here to make CBS News fit for purpose in the 228 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: twenty first century. Our industry has changed more in the 229 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: last decade and in the last one hundred and fifty years. 230 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: No doubt the transformation isn't over. Far from it. It's 231 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: almost impossible to conceive of how fast things will move 232 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: from here. It is almost impossible to conceive. Yeah, yeah, 233 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: I think it is impossible. Anyway, She reiterated what her 234 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: hand picked CBS Evening News anchor twenty Dicopel told viewers 235 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: when he took over about how CBS can win back trust. 236 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: We have to start by looking honestly at ourselves, we 237 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: are not producing a product that enough people want. We 238 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: can blame demographics or technology, or fractured attention spans or 239 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: news avoidance, but these are all copes. The reality is twofold. First, 240 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: not enough people trust us, not you us as in 241 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: the mainstream media. Now, that sounds a little to me 242 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: like what Jeff Bezo said, or I guess the guy 243 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: he hired said to the newsroom at the Washington Post 244 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: when they brought in an independent slash conservative leaning guy 245 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: or whatever he was, and all the people were complaining, 246 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: and he said, nobody's reading you right now. It's just like, 247 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: you know, what are you doing? You're creating content for 248 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: no one? So what's the point a pooh when he 249 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: said it. Yeah, we can debate why that is, but 250 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: the numbers tell the story. According to a recent Gallipol 251 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: just twenty eight percent of people say we have their trust. Second, 252 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: we are not doing enough to meet audiences where they are, 253 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: so they are leaving us there, not tuning out. Far 254 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: from it. In fact, Americans spend twice as much time 255 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: consuming news as they did fifty years ago. They're going 256 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: to the vast universe of podcasts and YouTube and Twitch 257 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: and newsletters and yes, sometimes to our nimbler competitors. And 258 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: she unveiled a slate of contributors, including podcasters and writers 259 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: like Neil Ferguson right then a put in to of 260 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: people that don't really know Andrew Huberman, Caroline Chambers, Casey 261 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: Lewis also unveiled plans to bring on digital first journalists 262 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: to our veterans of social media platforms like TikTok and YouTube. 263 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: She also wanted to turn CBS news reporters into news 264 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: brands themselves and attract treaters the news divisions, which can 265 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: help them become larger brands themselves. I'm not sure that's 266 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: a positive development, but I'm not sure you can avoid it. 267 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: I think that I think that happens with good journalism. 268 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: Back back when Lara Logan was a different Lara Logan, 269 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: I mean she like had her own brand, Like there 270 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: have been a number of big time journalists to get 271 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: their own brand because you believe them and like their style. 272 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want the journalists to become the news. 273 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: That's the danger there. But no, I totally hear what 274 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: you're saying. Yeah, And then she got to something that 275 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: I think is pretty compelling. She mentioned that Walter Cronkite 276 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: had two competitors, and we have two billion good ones. 277 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: She said that while most of CBS news revenue has 278 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: connected ads on linear TV, ultimately everything they do will 279 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: be streaming in digital first. Quote. Our strategy until now 280 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: has been to cling to the audience that remains on 281 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: broadcast television. If we stick to that strategy, we're toast. 282 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: I need somebody to restrain me from I know another industry. 283 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: I know that me. I should have orange. You being 284 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: dragged into the future years after everyone else. Yeah, all right, 285 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: I'll shut up. Yeah and then yeah, if we stick 286 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: to that strategy or toast. Yes, she is so what's 287 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: that smell? Delicious cooked bread? Huh? She's so smart? 288 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: But well, I don't remember what I was reading yesterday time, 289 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: something like that, but I referred to Barry Weiss, creator 290 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: of the conservative Free Press. 291 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: Oh, the Free Press is conservative, is it? Okay? It's not. 292 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: That's not at all. But it's not progressive. So anything 293 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: that's not progressive is deemed conservative. I'll squeeze in the 294 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: rest because it's really good. We're gonna put a huge 295 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: emphasis on scoops, not scoops that expire minutes later, but 296 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: investigative scoops and crucially scoops of ideas, scoops of explanation. 297 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,119 Speaker 3: This is where we can soar and where we'll be investing. 298 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. But startups aren't for everyone. They're places 299 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: that move at a rapid speed. They experiment, they try 300 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: new things. They sometimes create noise, and yes, bad press. 301 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: If that's not your bag, that's okay. It's a free country. 302 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: And I completely respect you if you decide this is 303 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: just not the right place at the right. 304 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: Time for you. I love all that. That's leadership. 305 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: And even if it doesn't work, I think it will. 306 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: But even if it doesn't work, you got no choice. 307 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: You gotta go this direction or you're just, you know, 308 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: waiting to the individual inevitable death of what you've been doing. 309 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty, do you have a reaction to the 310 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: arrest of Don Lemon overnight? 311 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: Reaction to what to Don Lemon's arrest overnight? 312 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 7: Do you have a reaction to it? I don't know 313 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 7: what that means. What are you looking for me to do? 314 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 7: Jump up and down? 315 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: So I was told by one of my favorite podcasters. 316 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: Rich Lowry of National Review the Todd blanche being on 317 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: the scene is always a good thing. He's the Deputy 318 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: attorney general. He's the person underneath Pam Bondy. I like 319 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: the cut of his jib there. That's a good one. 320 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: Do I have a reaction to the Lemon arrest. 321 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 6: Again? 322 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good. Do you have a reaction to 323 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: the arrest of Don Lemon overnight? Reaction to what to 324 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: Don Lemon's arrest overnight? It to it? 325 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 7: I don't know what that means. What are you looking 326 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 7: for me to do? Jump up and down? 327 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: Uh, he was there to talk about and I gotta 328 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: believe he's trying to put an end to this. The 329 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 3: Epstein files they released, basically, I think it's everything now 330 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: three million pages. And this isn't me saying a gazillion. 331 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: Actually three million pages. 332 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: Two thousand videos, and one hundred and eighty thousand pictures. 333 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: It's all been released. And they're not redacting the photos. 334 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 3: They're not blacking out pictures or anything. That's what they claim. God, 335 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: and this is probably a horrible precedent. All kinds of 336 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: people are gonna be asked questions that aren't part of 337 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: an investigation didn't do anything wrong, Right. 338 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: You're gonna have some Wall Street guy throwing his head 339 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: back in laughter, and over there's a girl that looks 340 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: is she eighteen? I don't know? Yeah? And then yeah, 341 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: oh well. 342 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: So Blanche was asked by a reporter about this, and 343 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: I'm hoping that this kind of ends this whole deal. 344 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: Here we go. 345 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: You said, this is the end of the Epstein of 346 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: your review of the Epstein files. So just to clarify, 347 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: or is the public going to learn the identities of 348 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: the men who abuse the girls with the information that 349 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 4: you're releasing? 350 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 2: And if not, why not? And then I have a 351 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: quick follow I mean, you. 352 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 7: Just baked in an assumption into your question that I 353 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 7: have never said and I don't know to be true. 354 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 7: Is the public going to learn about men that abuse 355 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 7: these girls? 356 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: Like? 357 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 7: What does that mean? 358 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: I understand what that means. 359 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: Well, I mean they're the men who abuse the young 360 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 4: women through Epstein's through. 361 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 7: We said in July, and it remains as true today 362 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 7: as it was in July. If we had information we 363 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 7: meeting the Department of Justice about men who abused women, 364 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 7: we would we would we would prosecute them. 365 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: Right, we talked about the work that we're doing. 366 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 7: That's why I said that. There's I said earlier, there's 367 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 7: this built an assumption that somehow there's this hidden tranche 368 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 7: of information of men that we know about that we're 369 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 7: covering up, or that we're not we're choosing not to prosecute. 370 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: That is not the case. 371 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 7: I don't know whether there are men out there that 372 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 7: abuse these women. If we learn about information and evidence 373 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 7: that allows us to prosecute them, you better believe we will. 374 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 7: But I don't think that that that the public or 375 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 7: you all are going to uncover men within the Epstein 376 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 7: files that abuse women, unfortunately. 377 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: And so you'd have to believe the Biden administration, Yeah, yeah, 378 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: we got pictures of grown men abusing children. We just 379 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: have decided to not follow up on that for some reason. 380 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: And then the Republicans, even when it's Republican, and then 381 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: the Trump administration, even though it's Bill Clinton or whoever 382 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: the hell is, we're we're hiding it too. 383 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: Just a high five downe inauguration, Dan said, all right, 384 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: you're going to take the country in all sorts of 385 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: crazy ways, but we're cool on the Epstein stuff. Right, 386 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, all right, I know you reached your 387 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 2: end game on this a long time ago. I am 388 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: now officially done. I don't think this is my second 389 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: big round of headlines that I said I will completely 390 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: ignore and if anything significant comes out of it, you 391 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: rub it in my face. 392 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: I think it is significant that they released everything like 393 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: they did, but that's the end of it. I can't 394 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: talk another second about it. 395 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: The conspiracy theory people will find so much christ for 396 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: their canver ending mill of madness. You can't do anything 397 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: about that. Nope. 398 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: So the Grammys are Sunday. Joe hates Grammys. I like 399 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: the Grammys, but their Sunday and. 400 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: Grammys are dead to me. Grammys are stupid, Katie. You 401 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: want to know why the Grammys are dead to me, 402 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: I'd be happy to explain it to you, ladies and gentlemen. 403 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: I take you back to the year of nineteen hundred 404 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: and seventy seven, the year of our Lord. Jimmy Carter 405 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: strode the planks of the White House talking about holding 406 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 2: a grudge. Yeah, this goes deep. Reggie Jackson three home 407 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: runs in Game seven. Watergate was in our Past by 408 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: Best New Artist The Starland Vocal Band, one hit Wonder 409 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: Joke Beating Out Boston, one of the greatest debut albums 410 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: in the history of recorded music on this planet or 411 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: any other. The Starland Effing Vocal Band. The Grammys died 412 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: that day and they have not been revived, like Lazaretha Frankenstein. 413 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: They're still dead. That's a that's a valid grudge it is. 414 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: That's a good one. That was obviously a mistake. Howney, 415 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: like this one, Jack nineteen seventy nine. 416 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: Okay, go deep, Best New Artists. My waist was twenty 417 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 3: five inches at the time. 418 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh, let's not speak of unpleasant topics. Nineteen seventy nine 419 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: The Best New Artist. A Taste of Honey, Boogie Ogie Ogie, 420 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: I believe was their one hit. I don't know, beating 421 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: out the Cars and Elvis Costello, among others. 422 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: Oh, that's the category they get beat up the most 423 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: on Best New Artists. I actually heard the Grammy people 424 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: explaining on NPR day what Best New Artist is. People 425 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: think it's a recognition of who's the best or predicting. 426 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: It's just it's just who had the biggest moment this 427 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: year is what it is. But whatever it is doesn't 428 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: make any difference. 429 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: The key ugy ugy is what you're defending nineteen seventy nine. 430 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: I look at yourself. The last of my hair was 431 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 3: headed to the drain. This is the interesting thing I 432 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: heard about the Grammys. They're mentioning one of the best 433 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: new artists who got launched basically on TikTok. For whatever reason, 434 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: people liked her song and I don't remember what it's about, 435 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 3: but it's got some you know, empowering theme or chorus 436 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 3: or whatever. And it got used in so many TikTok videos, 437 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: like thousands, eight hundred thousand different views, like in one 438 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: week of people putting thee yeather, they're TikTok videos to 439 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: this song, and that's what it got on everybody's radar, 440 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: and that launched her. And then they had the stat 441 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: that this last year, eighty percent of the songs that 442 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: ended up on the Billboard Top one hundred chart started 443 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: on TikTok eighty percent. So TikTok is the leader for 444 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: where new music comes from. Now that's amazing. It is amazing, 445 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: and it's interesting. And if you've got a band or 446 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: your crafting songs in your home or whatever, the TikTok 447 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: is the launching platform more than the record company or 448 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: the whoever radio. 449 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: Stage I guess, and I'm convinced. Go ahead, Katie. 450 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 5: Sorry the number of times that I have heard a 451 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 5: song under a TikTok movie or video and then looked 452 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 5: up the entire song and had the rest of it 453 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 5: just be crap? 454 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: Oh really? Oh yeah? 455 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: But I do like the democratization of art that has 456 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: happened this way. I don't like it with our politics 457 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: or punditry. I don't think that has been good. I 458 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: think gatekeepers for punditry was a good thing, but not 459 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: for music. And you know, the good stuff will bubble 460 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 3: up and make a way through if everybody can be 461 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: exposed to it. 462 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm perfectly fine with that. Yeah. So, speaking of TikTok, 463 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 2: just quickly quoting the uh James Lynchin is the National Review, 464 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: the Trump broker deal to have TikTok's Chinese parent companies 465 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: sell its US operations blah blah blah will effectively allow 466 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: Beijing allow Beijing to retain control over the popular short 467 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: form video platform. National security hawks believe because A Trump 468 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: really likes it for his political purposes and B C, 469 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: D and E. There are a lot of huge industries 470 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 2: in America, including entertainment that probably said, don't mess with TikTok. 471 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: We need it. 472 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: So the commies are, you know, perverting the minds of 473 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: our children and gathering our data. We need it. 474 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: Let it go back to the music thing briefly, and 475 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: then the whole gatekeeper's thing. A great example of that 476 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: is Chris Stapleton, the country are artist who country radio 477 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 3: and country in Nashville just would not They had no 478 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: interest because he didn't sound like all those other syrapy 479 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 3: machine like cranked out of a machine country songs. And 480 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: then he puts on the Grammys gave him Best Album 481 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 3: a couple of years in a row, even though he 482 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 3: was getting zero play on country music stations because it 483 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 3: was awesome. And then eventually the public caught up, leading 484 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 3: me to telling you, Chris Stapleton is playing the night 485 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: before the super Bowl in San Francisco, and and I thought, 486 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: you know, I haven't seen Chris Staple Stapleton. 487 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: I really like his music, and I thought, maybe I'll go. 488 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: Tickets are the most expensive tickets of anything I've ever 489 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 3: looked for in my life to see Chris Stapleton. Nosebleed 490 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: sections even on stub Hub, like there are none left 491 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: there like eighteen hundred dollars. 492 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: Well, Taylor Swift fans are like, what are you people crazy? Yeah? 493 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: And I just I love that that that country music 494 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: is like, no fat guy, No he doesn't look like 495 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: a model. We can't have some fat on a tree 496 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 3: active dude on our radio stations. What I'm wondering can 497 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: make any money off of that? He's the biggest thing 498 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: has happen to country music in like thirty years. That's 499 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: a good thing for just enjoying art. Uh where's that show? 500 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: Uh? One of your auditoriums? Hmm, it's a good place 501 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: to have it. Yeah. I just wondered size the hall. 502 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: It's big, it's pretty big. 503 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be because I wonder if there's a 504 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: chance there's so many people in town for the super 505 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: Bowl and that's night before and they got nothing else 506 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 3: to do, and they want to see and it's nothing 507 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: but the highest of high rollers, right, and you want 508 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 3: to see one of the great music acts in America. 509 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's driving up prices. You think that 510 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: kind of makes sense, doesn't it? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. 511 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: Got all these rich people in town with a Saturday 512 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: night to kill. That's a good schedule. 513 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: It's like the F one Racing is in town, or 514 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: you know some other high roller type activity. Yeah, the 515 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 2: Davos conference is going on. That was good scheduling. Probably 516 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: not an accident. 517 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 3: They probably do this in every Super Bowl town every year, 518 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: and I just never noticed it. You bring in some 519 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: high dollar acts of all different kinds, and you can 520 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: just pay charge anything for tickets. You've got all these 521 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: people with time to kill and lots and lots of money. 522 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 3: I really wish I was going to at least the 523 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: media day of the Super Bowl. I'm gonna spank myself 524 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: for the rest of my life for not thinking of 525 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: doing that earlier. I still might drive over there next 526 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: Friday and just put a video of you. 527 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: Spanking yourself up on TikTok. Why. I'm gonna want the 528 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: lighting to be pretty dim. I'm from a distance, like, 529 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: you can't even hardly tell what's going on over there. 530 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: Make does the Pruder film look like four K right exactly? 531 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: I might drive over there next Friday, though, after the 532 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: show and just check out the scene, get as close 533 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: as I can and walk around. 534 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: I just want to see the hubbub. 535 00:28:53,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 6: We'll finish strong next the whole. 536 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 8: How you feel about it, Let's get real about it. 537 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 8: Saw the people southern California. Who's a house. It's sad 538 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 8: as a fear too much to bear. Send it now, 539 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 8: hope to overcome despair. Positive energy to all the continents. 540 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 8: We all feel the pain and the powerlessness. A dose 541 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 8: of empathy, gratitude and a music kind of like all 542 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 8: of humanity going through it. 543 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I hear you. 544 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 8: It's so much panic, overwhelming anxiety and go from the planet. 545 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: You've paid for the song, friends, Oh really sour. It's 546 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: the environmental climate change rap song put out by the 547 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: National Environmental Education Foundation, which is funded by the US taxpayer, 548 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: which is terrifying the kids about climate change in schools. 549 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: But there's more so they stated in that rap song, 550 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: like it's just a known fact that the fires and 551 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 3: Los angele listener because of climate change. 552 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: That's correct. 553 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny that my kids have emerged from 554 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: quite a few years of public school. My son's in 555 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: private school now, but when he was in public school, 556 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: you know, enough years in my youngest quite a few 557 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: years that they don't have that view. 558 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: Of climate change. 559 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: I don't know why it didn't catch with them. 560 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't know about other kids climate change versus girls. 561 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: I have no idea. We can see it in the 562 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: fire man some some don't believe it. I just don't 563 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: understand it. FAM for those who understand, make a community plan. 564 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: Shout out to you for lending a helping hand. Interesting, 565 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: isn't it? This is way that just something just occurred 566 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: to me? So the same an EEF. As part of 567 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: the National Public's Lands Day, they do climate change rap songs. 568 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: They have their climate emotions wheel that is overwhelmingly sadness, fear, 569 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: and anger that they're teaching the kids. Then they have 570 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: them do a land acknowledgementh God, that we are on 571 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: the land that was stolen from blah blah blah, and 572 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: we need to decolonialize. Wait a minute, wait in a minute. 573 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: Hey, uh, it's that they're all progressive causes, all from 574 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: critical theory. That Indian tribe that you just mentioned. Where 575 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: did they get the land? Somebody have it before them? Yeah, 576 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: So go ahead and explain explain how this works. 577 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: Then why are we decolonizing and doing land acknowledgements? And 578 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about climate change. Yes, it's 579 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: because it's all part of the Marxist playbook critical theory 580 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: in short to tear down Western civilization. It's it's once 581 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: you know what it is, it's obvious how it's working. 582 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: But the percentage of Americans who actually understand that all 583 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: of this, I mean, what hell is queers for Palestine right, 584 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: Everybody thinks, oh my god, these people are so crazy. No, 585 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: it's that they're all different facets of critical theory that 586 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: are joining together to get rid of liberal Western democracies. 587 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Simple again, They've written books. Their names are on the spine. 588 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: They're not hiding it, they're proud of it. 589 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: Speaking of books, you mentioned the death of mass market paperbacks. 590 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: I was just reading about this. Tim Sanderfer put it out. 591 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: He he, like me, is very concerned about the end 592 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: of reading, the end of literacy. Really, well, not literacy, 593 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: because we're gonna keep reading, but we're not going to 594 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: read anything longer than a couple of sentences at a time. 595 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty close to ill literacy. 596 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: He's pretty close in it. Nobody's gonna be reading books though, definitely. 597 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just gonna go away. It's going away now, 598 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: or are they stay with us? Mass market paperbacks, which 599 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: were the biggest thing in all of publishing for a 600 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: very very long time, and it's it's basically dead now. 601 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: They they've announced that it's crossed the line into dead 602 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: and the numbers on it. I won't get him into 603 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: him and bore you, but it's just it's incredible, like 604 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: it dropped from gazillions and gazillions to like eighty thousand 605 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: in a few years. 606 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: That's how because he used to be very kind. 607 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: I almost always had a mass market paperback in my uh, 608 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: in my backpack or something for school or a home 609 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: or on the bus or with me and all the time. 610 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: But now nobody carries them around. 611 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: Nobody. Yeah, yeah, there isn't trend back toward reading, allegedly 612 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: and from unplugging and stuff like that. But you know, 613 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: I don't. I have no desire to be right about 614 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: this or not. I'm just observing. I want you to be. 615 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: I suspect that it's a catastrophic drop followed by a 616 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: slight rebound. Yeah, well, the numbers will be there. 617 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: And Tim, our friend Tim Sandifer, who writes books, has 618 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: told me about where all the numbers are in the industry, 619 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: and it's it's damn depressing. 620 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: He basically said, nobody reads anymore. Wow. Way to end 621 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: the show on a depressing note. For the whole week. 622 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: We're going to be depressed all weekend. Thanks to you. Well, 623 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: I got a better one, how to not be depressed? 624 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: I need that paperback quickly. 625 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: Your final thoughts with thoughts strong get You'll get the 626 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: facts shot instead? 627 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: Don't you? For Eddy for more? Frostrom and I love that. 628 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: That was cool. It's odd. I like it's unique. It's yeah, 629 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: it's hard. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. 630 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew 631 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: to wrap up the show for the day. In the week, 632 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: there he is Michaelangelo to lead us off in the 633 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: control room. Michael final thought. I'm almost afraid to say this, 634 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 2: but I'll go ahead and say it. Will The Grammys 635 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: this year have a surprise guest, Bruce Springsteen go up 636 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: there and sing his new song You Just Michael It 637 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 2: good call Michael? How could they resist? Vombit? Katie Green 638 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: are esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. 639 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 5: Katie, I know Jack's gonna hate this, but I actually 640 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 5: want to see. 641 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: The Millennia documentary and plan on it. Okay, Well, then 642 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: tell us about it. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you like it, 643 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 2: maybe it'll be great. Okay, super Jack final thought. 644 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 3: You wanted something that's a downer, here's the downer Mill down. No, 645 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: A new canine coronavirus is spreading and could be a 646 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: future pandemic and humans worn. 647 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: Scientists. 648 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: Great, the dogs have COVID and they're afraid it's gonna 649 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: leap to humans. 650 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: And it's a brand new one. Somebody's getting punched. We 651 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: have another pandemic. I'm punching someone. How is that gonna help? 652 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: It's gonna help me Soon we will be get in heartworm. 653 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: My final thought. On average, seventy percent of the time 654 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: Americans spend online, they say, feels them leaving disconnected and 655 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: lonely rather than genuinely connected, leading to feelings of being overwhelmed, anxious, 656 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: and irritable. I think people are waking up to the 657 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: downside of technology. I want I want you to be right. 658 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: I hope you're right. 659 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Geeddy wrapping up another grueling four hour work day. 660 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: So many people to thanks, so little time. Go to 661 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: armstrong in giddy dot com for the hot links for 662 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: Katie's corner. Drop us a notemail bag in Armstrong in 663 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: Geeddy dot com. If you see something over the weekend 664 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: we ought to be talking about. Pick up some A 665 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: and g swag. Oh, the hoodies are so good and 666 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 2: it's chilli out. Get a hoodie. 667 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 3: We will see you on my nay God bless America. 668 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. You know, if you're a 669 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: vacuum blanker, that's one level of crazy. Soon as you 670 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: flipped that thing on, you think this was a horrible mistake. 671 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: I have made a terrible decision here, but. 672 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: This guy can't reach the button. 673 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: You flip it all and think I have made a 674 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: horrible mistake. The Armstrong and Ketty Show.