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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's better than a drama filled Housewives dinner party?

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Speaker 1: A drama filled dinner party with a medium one of

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Speaker 1: the most iconic dinner parties in Beverly Hill's history. We're

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Speaker 1: taking it back to an O G episode where Camille

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Speaker 1: Founder of Barstool Sports and pizza lover and reviewer, the opinionated, polarizing,

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Speaker 1: and often controversial Dave Portnoy joins me to serve this

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Speaker 1: episode on a silver platter. This is Real Housewives of

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Season one, episode nine, The Dinner Party from Hell.

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Speaker 1: I was taking a shower today thinking about whether your girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: who is adorable and who I've met, was the one

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Speaker 1: who told you to do this and or watched the

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Speaker 1: episode with you. No, so she's not a huge Real

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Speaker 1: Housewives fan. I like reality TV like that's I'm not

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Speaker 1: a huge Like Housewives fan, but I like bad reality TV.

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Speaker 1: And why I say bad good? However you look at it,

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Speaker 1: so I thought I thought it was a cool idea.

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Speaker 1: So no, she didn't have anything to do with it. Um, alright,

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Speaker 1: So had you watched the Beverly Hills. Are you current? No? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not current. I mean I watched the episode. If

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Speaker 1: that's what you're asking. Have you ever seen an episode? No,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen. Most people had all right, this is good.

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Speaker 1: So do you think that the show holds up? Because

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Speaker 1: I watched an Atlanta episode, in old Atlanta episode, and

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Speaker 1: I think that could have been on like tomorrow, and

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known that it wasn't necessarily real. I

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't. I could have seen that being a

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Speaker 1: But no, I didn't notice anything that made it feel

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Speaker 1: was after answering machines. So who who did you like?

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Speaker 1: And who did you not like? Like? Who did you

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Speaker 1: connect with any of the characters? Are you anyone in

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Speaker 1: this group? Uh? The only one that I thought, for

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Speaker 1: Is the one in the pink hold on? Who was

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Speaker 1: got k neat in the face by the four year old?

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Speaker 1: Oh that she's a maloof you've heard of the brothers

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Speaker 1: She seemed like, uh, like, what are you doing there?

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Speaker 1: Like it seems like she was crying through a skin

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Speaker 1: what you sign up for and what you have to do.

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Speaker 1: But why would anybody walk into that dinner in the

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like why would you The Malouf lady is like,

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Speaker 1: the only thing I could say to Day that would

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Speaker 1: You that she's a aloof, So whatever that means to you,

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Speaker 1: she's a aloof. She's married to a plastic surgeon. They

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Speaker 1: the aloof And to answer your question about what's stage

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Speaker 1: So someone walking into the Poseidon Adventure ship when it's

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Speaker 1: the Housewives of Miami rented next door like literally, so

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Speaker 1: I can see and I can see what they were doing,

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Speaker 1: the clue are more produced, the bags, the hair, you're wearing,

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Speaker 1: So this was as real as this series could be back,

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Speaker 1: all right, and what what degree, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a real housewife, but like that whole dinner party, Like,

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Speaker 1: Like let's let's let's call up my friend of these

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Speaker 1: But everybody pitches Oh my friend owns catch, my friend

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Speaker 1: it'd be really fun if we do a cooking club.

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Speaker 1: Because you have to have story, Dave, So you have

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Speaker 1: And they read things in the news no, like you're

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Speaker 1: It has never happened since. But they just wanted me back.

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Speaker 1: But that you've got to show it all, okay. So

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Speaker 1: and because you're really into reality TV, the Kardashians is

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Speaker 1: they're okay with the level of dramatic. It looks here

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Speaker 1: So that's just some little inside baseball for you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So now Camille was married to Kelsey Grammer. Do you

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Speaker 1: like why she got the big house and all that stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's her. Lisa vander Propperly, you know who she is.

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Speaker 1: She's she has the vanderper Rules exactly. So she and Kyle,

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Speaker 1: so true. Exactly, that's so true. That's exactly. That was

425
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: a great point, do you who? But based on the

426
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: potentially moral corruption and the bullshit about the lingerie thing,

427
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: who won that point? All right? So I I was

428
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 1: on phase side because she didn't bring it up, like

429
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, and that was a long time ago. So um,

430
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: Frasier's wife brought the like she threw the first punch.

431
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you're in Playboy too, so like shut up,

432
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's like, all right, you doesn't the circumstances.

433
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: While you look back, it's like, well one was this

434
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: one was that It's like, if you're gonna say it,

435
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 1: you better not have been in play Boy yourself, right, totally,

436
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: And these are the things I would say that. There's

437
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: a line that I had in one of my openings,

438
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: which was, if you're going to take a shot at this,

439
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: be better not miss. With the Housewives, if you're going

440
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: to take a shot, you fucking need to land it. Yeah,

441
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: seem of miss Punchers Exactly. You need to land the

442
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: shot because everything becomes something else. And then you open

443
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: up Pandora's. But if you're going in you know how

444
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: it is, you gotta kill the person. Yeah, otherwise it

445
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: opens up a whole other fucking ball wap. What about

446
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: Camille saying she thinks Kyle's jealous? Don't you have a

447
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: beautiful girlfriend who's like, you know, got it all and

448
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: got you and you guys have a great life, it seems,

449
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: and it seems to me like it seems to have

450
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: a chill, normal relationship. Um, what do you think of

451
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: girls saying other girls are jealous? You think that she's

452
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: do you think that that's normally the case so it's

453
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: just something that idiots. I think jealousy is like a

454
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: real thing, but I don't know what. I only watched

455
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: that one show, and I heard Camille at one point

456
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: be like, I have this closet full andre that I

457
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: just danced around in front of the mirror and make

458
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: my self feel good because I'm always alone. That does

459
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: not seem like a life that anybody would be overly

460
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: jealous of. So I don't know. I don't know what

461
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: would be jealous of Commu that I thought she was

462
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: the least person to be jealous of on the show.

463
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: So no, I don't think she's jealous of her unless

464
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm missing something totally out of the ordinary. It looked

465
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: like she was a pretty lonely person. And Taylor, the

466
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: one who I didn't I couldn't understand what that second

467
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: argument was about. Did you not know? I had no

468
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: idea how it looked like something that you're talking to,

469
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: the one the Kyle's sister who went home in the

470
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: limo alone like she just got voted off the Bachelorette verse. Um, yeah, yeah, Taylor,

471
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know that. I didn't Taylor, I didn't

472
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: even hear speak the entire episode, so that just looked

473
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: like they had um wars before. She also looked Taylor

474
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: just about the most upset of any of them, like

475
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: they had a little screen in the back, like she

476
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: was really upset with that fight, which I have no

477
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: idea where that none. It's kind of like if you've

478
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: seen that movie Anchorman with Will Farrell, like the different

479
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: it's like the different news organizations are all just fighting

480
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: each other and you don't even know who's fighting. They're

481
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: picking up different weapons and everybody. That's kind of what

482
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: that table felt like, just everyone jumping at each other.

483
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: So what happens a lot? You'll find this People come

484
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: on the show with their spouse together and then a

485
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: year later get divorced because maybe they was like having

486
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: a baby, let's do something different, or we're trying to

487
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: save our marriage, or we're broke or we need this.

488
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: It happens a lot, or someone just breaks up and

489
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: comes on, Like it's a lot of relationship stuff. Yolana

490
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: hadid came on with Dave Foster, the you know singer,

491
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,479
Speaker 1: I mean the music the big music producer, and marriage

492
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: ended really quickly thereafter. Kelsey was on for like the

493
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: first episode with Camille and sometimes you think that that

494
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: person might have had a relationship going or they were

495
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: having problems, and it's sort of like a parting gift,

496
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: like give her something to fucking do? Does that make

497
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: any sense? So she came on and in the very

498
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: beginning they were like the beginning of when the show started.

499
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: There in a bit, she's in a big ball down.

500
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: So they shot them going in the limousine to New

501
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: York and I think all the girls were there, and

502
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: that sort of enters her package on the show. And

503
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: I guess there's a preceding comment where Camille was saying

504
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: that Kyle indicated or said, oh, why would they want

505
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: you if Kelsey wasn't here? Because I guess they were

506
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: invited to something and that I mean, that would make

507
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: sense that Kyle might think it or well why would

508
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: they like why would why would she be on the

509
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: show if it wasn't if she wasn't married at one

510
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: point to Frasier, right and has the money from Fraser

511
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: and yeah, and also know there was like another event

512
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: I guess that they were all going to go to

513
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: on the show, and the the the accusation is that

514
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: Kyle made it belittled her on her own that she

515
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: like sort of needed Kelsey to be invited to something.

516
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: But I frankly think like you think she needed Kelsey

517
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: to be invited on this show and probably a lot

518
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: of that stuff. A lot of people are still why

519
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: is her name still Camille Grammar? Right? Yeah, I'm saying

520
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: people recognition, right exactly, You're still the name. Oh kay,

521
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: So that that's what that argument was about. But um,

522
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: do you think it's a would you ever do a

523
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: reality show with your girlfriend? No, not that one like

524
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: maybe The Amazing Race or something where like you're working

525
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: together that when you just said like a lot of

526
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: the couple's relationships break during the show, Yeah, no, ship

527
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: like most like psychologically like it's just again, you have

528
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: to go to an event like that, Like I don't

529
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: hang out with people I don't like, Like that would

530
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: be I would never do that. Like if my girlfriends like,

531
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: we have to do the show and by the way,

532
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to start hanging out with people

533
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: you despise, Yeah, the relationship would end pretty quick because

534
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: I would never do that. There's always a number. What's

535
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: the number for you to go on the h House?

536
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a number is always how many episodes?

537
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: Is it? It can be if it's how long are

538
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: they gonna be tracking me and camerason? Is it everywhere? Okay,

539
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: it's no, it's it's four months out of the year.

540
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: It feels like twelve because you're constantly talking about it

541
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: and promoting it and what ever. But it's four months

542
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: of literal shooting with some pickups and it's probably in

543
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: your case, three days but not all day, like this dinner,

544
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: this breakfast, whatever, three three times a week that they'd

545
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: capture some long days and then you have to go

546
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: on a trip und millionay not not not It always

547
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: is literally not not a penny less. Wow, Okay, I'm

548
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: getting up there in years. Like so every second I

549
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: spend doing something I don't like has a definite cost

550
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: to it. And like I don't even know what I

551
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: do with that extra money, but it would be too

552
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: much for me not to take that. It has to

553
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: be so ridiculous, Like, all right, I guess I'll have

554
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: to do it. Then a hundred million and that's for

555
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: four months as many episodes as they can crank out.

556
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want. There there, I'm there

557
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: is for four months. Okay, I love it all right, Well,

558
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. By the way, they want

559
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: me back really badly. My number is not that high,

560
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: but it's a fucking number. Um okay. And what do

561
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: you think about what was said to Kyle? Like how

562
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: she handled it? How that what the medium said to her? Yes?

563
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: Why what she said? Two things? Didn't she say something

564
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: about the marriage and then she said something else? I

565
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: forget she said two things like, oh is this your

566
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: second marriage? And something about your kids. Oh, when your

567
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: kids get older, you're not gonna have anything going on

568
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: in your relationship. Your husband's tired and like bored of you. Basically,

569
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I think is what the medium said. And once the

570
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: kids are gone, like you're you're going to be lifeless.

571
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, every single woman feels that way

572
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: and every single man. I mean, I'm not even saying that.

573
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: That's that You're right, it's like a horoscope. You could

574
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: attach that to any couple in America. Yeah, right, if

575
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: if somebody said that that, I didn't know the medium

576
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: even if you're asking that would have anchored me got

577
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: up and left. You are really violent? Would you be

578
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: self caught? Like if you wanted to grab somebody by

579
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: the hair on that show and you were getting paid njremillion,

580
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: would you give a ship like if you were in there,

581
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: would you be calculated or you just be exactly you are?

582
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: Not give a good fund? Doesn't exactly who I am? Yeah,

583
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: what do I care? Is I think anybody as you're describing,

584
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: which I don't really get obviously the loof angle of it,

585
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: um like why should go on? I guess the fame angle,

586
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: but like I don't. I'm not for me personally. I

587
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't be going on to get more famous. And I

588
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: don't care if I got like boot like I I

589
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: play with in the rules as long as I got

590
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: the money. So I you know, those are probably the

591
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: best characters who don't care. Nobody on that show doesn't care.

592
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: You'd be amazing. That's the ironic part about it. I'm

593
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: pretty decent too, You're pretty Teughlent. I am like you,

594
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: but I think about you a lot in business because

595
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: I wonder, like, do you really not like how many?

596
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: If there's a hundred comments about you, and it's in

597
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: different places, but let's say it's like a neutral place,

598
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: not where everyone loves you, not where everyone hates, you

599
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: know how it's the left, the right, fox or seeing

600
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: if there's the neutral place. And there are a hundred

601
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: of comments, how many are positive and how many are negative?

602
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: And do you give a shit about it? Most are positive? Um,

603
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: and but the I know it's hard to this goes

604
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: against what you just said. The really animated people tend

605
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: to be politically who comments. But we tend to be

606
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: politically driven either the ones who love me the most

607
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: and the ones who hate me the most, And those

608
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: are like outliers, normal people. They're like, yeah, we like Barcel,

609
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: we like Dave, and you know, the reception if I'm

610
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: out in the street, it's always positive, people saying hello.

611
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: So it's mostly positive. But again even in comments, those

612
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: are like not really like, I don't leave comments on

613
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: random people, you know, so it's not like the real

614
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: people to begin with. That's what I want to say.

615
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: The people who take time to leave a negative comment

616
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: don't reflect the normal population. People like time take time

617
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: on Instagram, on TikTok in particular. That's a certain kind

618
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: of crazy person. Yeah, it's like the old talk radio,

619
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: like you know, back in the day Boston, Like talk

620
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: radio is huge. It was like the number one city

621
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: for sports talk radio, and you have like I don't know,

622
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: millions of people listening and point zero zero zero one

623
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: calling and the callers are crazy. So it's the same thing.

624
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: That's okay, Well that's that's that's helpful. I like that.

625
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm always amazed. Like in in our world, you get

626
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: so caught up it's easy to like see comments and

627
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: social media, and then you go out to the real

628
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: world and people don't even know, Like you think you're

629
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: in some knockout, drag out fight. Like people don't even know.

630
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: They're like, what are you talking about? I have no idea,

631
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean? Well, by the way, and

632
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: different on each platform, you could be a full TikTok

633
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: Twitter thing that came out and you think you're in

634
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: a war, like and you've been being taken down. Then

635
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: you walk out into the other room of Instagram or

636
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: the real world and and and you're doing deals and

637
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: know what you're thinking, Oh, you're not gonna not want

638
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: to do this deal, and they're like, what the are

639
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: you talking about? Talk the same it's a world. They're

640
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: all worlds onto themselves, and radio is another world, and

641
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: podcasts another world. Very interesting also that people don't realize

642
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: so Taylor, by the way, they do some preview talking

643
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: about she says in a preview that she's a victim

644
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: of domestic violence, and I think it came out that

645
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: she was at home too in her own marriage. If

646
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: that happened, you're going through a lot in your personal

647
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: life obviously leading up to it. It's not like that

648
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: just happens out of clouds. And then you put all

649
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: these combustible people in a room and I guess it

650
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: gets nasty. But I always also wonder why those people

651
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: would go on television. It's like too tempting, that's how

652
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: tempting famous. So the first season of Jersey, Teresa, who

653
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of and Joe went on together,

654
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: she's paying for all the furniture and cash. And then right,

655
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: so there's one example. Okay, Then there's another woman, Erica,

656
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: who's on the current Beverly Hills show, and I actually

657
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: knew her. I've met her ex husband, her ex husband

658
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: through someone. And she's the most expensive that's ever been

659
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: on wearing the most jewelry. Has a song, It's expensive

660
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: to be me talking about money, and it's fifty a

661
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: month to do glam and like she's about money, like

662
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: I have some money, not maybe you money, but I

663
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: have money. But I'm not on the show. I'm a person.

664
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: I have nice things. I'm talking. I don't show my

665
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: arms bags, It's not who I am. So she's talking

666
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: about money and then she her husband gets in legal trouble,

667
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: massive legal trouble about the money from the plane crash

668
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: victims going to her expensive lifestyle. This is all alleged.

669
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know where the cases right now, but

670
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is a person that her husband.

671
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: I knew that he was going through some crazy ship

672
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: from my ex who was also in that business, saying

673
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: he owes everybody money and he's he's a scam. You know,

674
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: he's a scam art. So it's interesting and I can

675
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: tell you, sadly ten more stories like that. Yeah, it's crazy.

676
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's fame, fames and intoxicating drugs. No

677
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: different than people going on The Bachelor, people going on

678
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: any of these reality TV shows for fame. I think

679
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: that it if that's the primary motivation, which it is,

680
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: it changes a lot. Like for me personally, I never

681
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: intended to be like no, like I started barcel as

682
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: a business and I want to make money and do

683
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: something I like. But it wasn't like the fame part

684
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: of it came very slowly and very organically, and like

685
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: I it's not. I'm much more on the business, Like

686
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't consider myself like an influencer, really consider myself

687
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: a business guy. That's kind of how I look at myself. Yeah,

688
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: I do too, I do too. But you you've created

689
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: a gro culture that is really successful. Like they're the

690
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: mom we have literally the marriage of audiences, Like I've

691
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: got the moms, like the cool moms that are married

692
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: to the bros. Like I know you're young guys in

693
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: all ages, but like my moms are edgy moms married

694
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: to those bros. Like it's very interesting, um, And it's

695
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: funny that you mentioned Malouf because listen, when you have

696
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: airs to a fortune, just like succession, you never know

697
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: where the money goes. And a lot of these people

698
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: that have been on these shows rent the cars, the

699
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: car the ferraris are rented, or at least the houses

700
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: they're renting or don't own or friend lends it to them.

701
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: You always find out someone's always in bankruptcy, always being

702
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: cheated on. There's always some shady numbership. It's never on

703
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: these shows what it looks like that. Yeah, I believe.

704
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: I believe because they rented the house next to me,

705
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: so I'm sure they didn't say that was like a

706
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: rented house in the Hampton's when they went exactly so

707
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: big exactly. And another thing you'll find interesting because we're

708
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: talking about fame. There are many actresses now, particularly in

709
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: the Beverly Hills, really all in Beverly Hills. So you

710
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: have Garcella Buvet actress, Lisa Rana, actress, Kyle Richards, actress

711
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: Kim who was on that show who's not on now

712
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: but likely we'll go back Denise Richards. I'm sure you

713
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: know actresses. So now you have actresses on reality television show.

714
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: That's another interesting dynamic. A they maybe didn't pop to

715
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: the level they wanted to acting career, but by stay

716
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: in the headlines. Yeah, and it stays in the headlines.

717
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean reality, be a successful on his

718
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: a cheap code to fame fortune and you can parlay

719
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: it into other stuff. But what about being a good

720
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: actress on a reality show? Is that the that's the

721
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: juxtaposition of all time, right, yeah, yeah, you know what

722
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean. If you're good at that, that's an extra

723
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: ski Oh, that's that should be helpful in this in

724
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: this arena um. All right, well, I won't keep it

725
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: too much longer, but I could talk. I love I

726
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: love your take, and I love doing this with people

727
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: who who haven't seen it because it's just like watching

728
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: a whole group of creatures in the zoo that you

729
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: don't understand. So do you think who won the who

730
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: won the episode? I mean it's it's not the greatest answer,

731
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: but the maloof and and to me, vander Pump won

732
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: it by just not singing totally insane like. Those are

733
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: the only two that to me came out like all right.

734
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: They seemed to be fairly normal people, like the vander

735
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Pump like she she seemed witty and quick, like an

736
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: intelligent person. The Malouf I just thought didn't want any

737
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: part of it. The others all just seemed totally psycho

738
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: Like Chyle seems psycho to Yeah, she seems psycho to me,

739
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: interesting because she's in the middle of it all because

740
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: you're engaging in craziness, like got it? Okay, now again,

741
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 1: it's hard because, like I get that it's the real

742
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: house wise, and I get you have to go to

743
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: the dinner, But if you hate this woman so much,

744
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: why are you going to the dinner like that? Which

745
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: I know you have to go? Walk out? Yeah, right, yes,

746
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: walk out. They'll shoot you walking out. Walk yeah, walk

747
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: the funk out. I've walked out. I've yeah, I've walked.

748
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: I've done it all because the best thing to do

749
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: is do real right. Well that I mean, I guess

750
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: you didn't look crazy. But she was the center of

751
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: the drama for the most part, her and the h

752
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: what's her face? The frasier and to the fame point

753
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: in the walkout point, if I'm fay reis the owner

754
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: of the homes best friend or very good friend? She

755
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: said she's a very good friend. Is the medium who's

756
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: talking about me and I don't like it, And she says,

757
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: so leave. I think I would say, fine, I'm leaving.

758
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: If I'm fay I'm staying as a guest in someone's home,

759
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: and you would you wouldn't you leave if you were Fame?

760
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: And she said to leave? Yeah, I don't know, maybe

761
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: not to spite her. Yeah, you have like two legs

762
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: you walk out the whole thing. I yeah, I mean

763
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: maybe i'd leave. I probably want to show it up.

764
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: But it's again, it really did, which is reality TV show.

765
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: But like I knew what was basically coming before it came,

766
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Like I knew that medium was going to give a

767
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: bad reading to somebody get drunk and be the evil

768
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: person versu the others, Like that was obvious it was coming. Um,

769
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: so it just felt super scripted. And was Camille, do

770
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: you do you care about being someone being the host?

771
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: Like do you believe in that ship? Like the Camille

772
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: was bad host because she invited people to her house

773
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: and then ambushed them with that question you guess your's

774
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: your house you've invited? She was a bad host, right, Okay,

775
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: definitely was a bad host. Okay. And then if you

776
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: had to pick a rose and thorn of the episode,

777
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: what was it the best and the worst? Like it

778
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: could be bad that you liked it, but just the

779
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: thing that you liked the most about the episode and

780
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: the thing you did just like, yeah, one of the

781
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: girls walked into a plant leaving, which I thought was

782
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: funny in the back, uh, and it was very like

783
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were doing to the poor

784
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: girl who's just alone in the limo. Like I said,

785
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: that felt very bad Solorette um And I mean I

786
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: thought the medium girl, as much as I've given her

787
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: thorn as she was the most entertaining part of it

788
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: kind of like a train wreck. It's like, is this

789
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: person even real? Like is that if I met her

790
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: in the street, is she going to be just as

791
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: insane as she was there? And like, who would actually

792
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: base a TV show on this person? Well? No, but

793
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: she also is hired in cold case like in cases correct,

794
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: which also is quite scary. We're gonna have to find

795
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: more about that. Five. There may have been some um

796
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: white lies being told there. Oh okay, imagine seeing this

797
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: woman and being like, we're gonna base a TV show offer.

798
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you nuts? After that? Yeah, but

799
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: I was wondering how it affected her career. By the way,

800
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: a hundred person that I'm thinking, you're the police department

801
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: of wherever and you're gonna hire that. But I bet

802
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: that happens all the time. But they hire people that

803
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: are supposed to understand like handwriting and body languae and

804
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: all this ship And it's probably all about I bet

805
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: there's some people out there who saw this in is like,

806
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: that's an interesting way to describe what she's done for us.

807
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: Like I, I I do not really believe. She's too crazy

808
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: for me to believe anything she says. You're you help

809
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: catch serial killers? No you don't. Well no, remember when

810
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: ray J said something during this the Kim tape thing,

811
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: and he said something about the fact that the lie

812
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: detective person was a scammer. The thing is, I know

813
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: so many chefs, I know so many event planners, so

814
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: many social media people, so many publicists, so many everything.

815
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: I really don't know that many lie detector test people.

816
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: And I don't know that many mediums that catch me.

817
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: So if anybody says they do that and I need that,

818
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm hiring whoever said they did that, right point? Do

819
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, Like I mean, she trying to catch a

820
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: serial killer is like serious business? This this woman is

821
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: not serious business. I don't know what she is, but

822
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: she's not somebody that I would want to waste my

823
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: time like spending more than three minutes thinking. But like

824
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: you said, maybe everybody in that space a little bit loopy.

825
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd find that hard to believe now,

826
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: not according to her, Like, I'm sure she caught everybody,

827
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: but but how does she get to work for police

828
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 1: departments if she never caught anybody? Has got a show

829
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: made about her. I don't know that I believe any

830
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: of it. All right, if she's caught a serial killer,

831
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: we have to have her on one of your podcasts

832
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: if she actually but again I need it like pea, like,

833
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: yeah she did, we hired her. I see a pace

834
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: not not. You know her story. I don't trust anything

835
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: she says. All right, how much would you bet I'm

836
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: not betting you, but how much would you bet that

837
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: she hasn't actually caught a serial killer? That I know?

838
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: I like five grand? I mean just betting on her

839
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: being a liar? Basically, Okay, we're betting five grand. I

840
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: don't know who you're betting. I have a feeling maybe

841
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: like in some capacity she walked past the police station

842
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: and saw maybe somebody getting rest is like, oh I

843
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: knew what he did. Like, it's just it's not gonna

844
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: be what she said. There may be some way, some hints,

845
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: but it's not like she sat down went to her

846
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: me d zone is like the serial killer is hiding

847
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: in a storage locker three states away. No way like

848
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: a movie. Okay, all right, Well, first of all, a

849
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: hundred million to go on the housewives. Please let me

850
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: take a commission. I'll go on with you if I

851
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: even if I take the commission, the ten percent commission,

852
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: I'll go on with you to that's the second deal.

853
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: And then um maybe fifty maybe I don't know, manages.

854
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: We'll have to negotiate that united on the side tent

855
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: between ten and is what i'd like, and we can

856
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: split brand deals and anything comes out of it. Um,

857
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: sure Bravo will go bankrupt after paying us a hundred million,

858
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: but whatever it's gonna go, we'll see. And then um

859
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: five thousand. If the woman has ye that that's what

860
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: they should have done at the tape. Once she's like,

861
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: they'll be like tell us, tell us more like you

862
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 1: already caught him, so you can say whatever you want,

863
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: like tell us what you did. Oh yes, By the way,

864
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: most serial killers are like no, like if you're a

865
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: serial killer, like you know who that person is generally,

866
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: so there's not like a ton of cereal killers like

867
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: and they all become whether like the Dahmer things out

868
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: now that's getting but like you generally know when a

869
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: serial killer is caught because they're a serial killer, and

870
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: that's what you would have done. Yeah, like who who?

871
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: Who was a serial killer you caught and give us

872
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: the details and everything like that, because my guess is

873
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: you don't have them. You know. It's funny that was

874
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: like a decade ago. I can't wait for them to

875
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: call her right now ten years later. She's like, we

876
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: don't know what the show is still on. I doubted

877
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: it is. She's like expired and now we're just dredging

878
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: this up again, like we like um. That was the

879
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: best part of the whole thing that made me so

880
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: incredibly happy. Dave. Guess what, Dave. I used to have

881
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: a sign. I sold it with my old apartment. It

882
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: was neon behind me and it said I know it all.

883
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you. I've never said to another person

884
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: that they should have the I Know it All signed.

885
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: It was in lower case, so it's not loud as

886
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: I know it all. I think you should get Foster's

887
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: claim to make in public I catch serial killers. Now

888
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: you don't like you just don't like it because that

889
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: would have been episode two. That would have been when

890
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: you get two episodes out of one that would have

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00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: been definitely a TB continued, if you had said that,

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00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: we would have been checking that fucking awesome. You're the best.

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Speaker 1: I love that you did this. Thank you, M