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Speaker 1: You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of What in the Winkler.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited because today I have a guest

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Speaker 1: on that is not a family member again for the

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Speaker 1: second week in a row. And he's actually a really

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Speaker 1: good friend of mine, my neighbor, an incredible actor. I

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Speaker 1: love his kids, I love his sister, I love his wife,

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Speaker 1: I love his whole family. And so we're going to

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Speaker 1: welcome Allie Hudson to the show today. Zillie Oliver, What

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Speaker 1: is happening?

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Speaker 2: Zoe?

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Speaker 1: Are you just going to be wearing your sunglasses in

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Speaker 1: your kitchen for this?

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Speaker 2: It's so bad? Wait? Whats thatpp?

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's crazy that we're not doing this

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Speaker 1: in person because you live next door.

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Speaker 2: Are you at the house? Are you kidding me? Well,

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Speaker 2: why didn't I just grab a coffee and come over?

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't have a setup for that, so

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Speaker 1: we can't do that. But next time we should have

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Speaker 1: bought this through, explained to me why you're wearing your sunglasses.

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Speaker 1: At eleven am.

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Speaker 2: Went out to Mauchine's house holiday party and it was

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Speaker 2: only eight of us, but Aaron and myself just decided to,

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Speaker 2: you know, stay up till five.

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Speaker 1: Am on a Wednesday night, on.

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Speaker 2: A Wednesday night, drinking, smoking weed, little maybe a little

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Speaker 2: mushroom situation. And we leave tomorrow for Colorado. I have

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Speaker 2: so much to do. We got woken up by Rio

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Speaker 2: our daughter, and fully dressed, took her antibiotic, made her lunch,

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Speaker 2: fed the dogs. I mean, this girl's you know, she's

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Speaker 2: a dream.

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Speaker 1: Our kids go to the same school. By the way, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you could have just called us. We could have just

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Speaker 1: given her.

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Speaker 2: She's like, what's happening? I have to go to school?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Aaron's upstairs right now, being

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Speaker 2: like I cannot believe you have to go talk right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I have I have so much to do today.

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Speaker 2: And this is why one of my sunglasses because that

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Speaker 2: I mean, I am look at this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's better than before when you had like

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Speaker 1: one school and I so I feel like we're I

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Speaker 1: feel like we're doing much better. Thanks for making the time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for making the time to do this.

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Speaker 2: No, what are you nuts? I mean a million percent.

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Speaker 2: I get up and I'm like, I gotta do Zolway's

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Speaker 2: podcasts and Aaron's like, what, you have to go talk

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 1: So did Rio get to school? That's my question.

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Speaker 2: She did? She got to school, Aaron took her. I

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Speaker 2: mean she was pulled over. She'd probably get like you.

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe that this is like still happening. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I got home at the time that you got home,

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Speaker 1: I would be hospitalized.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, I know. I think it's a sad,

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Speaker 2: sad fact that Aaron and I are were kind of pros.

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Speaker 1: And I it's because you're not Jewish.

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Speaker 2: I'm not proud of that. But hold on, So I

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Speaker 2: am only because mom my mom's Jewish. Right, So I'm right.

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Speaker 1: So I guess you are, which is just which proves that,

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Speaker 1: like maybe it's just you, it's just your constitution.

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Speaker 2: I think. So. I think it's years of plastic I

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Speaker 2: did my twenty three and me and I think I'm

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Speaker 2: twenty four percent.

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Speaker 1: Ashkana's okay, Well, that's great to know. That's great. I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy welcome you. So Allie is my neighbor. He

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Speaker 1: and his wife are good friends of ours. We love them.

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Speaker 1: His kids go to the same school as my kids.

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Speaker 1: His few his best friends with my son. So's there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of crossover.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we're more than neighbors, Babe, what are

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Speaker 2: we I've known you for a thousand years. You have

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You have, You've seen the evolution.

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Speaker 2: You've happened to be neighbors later in life, but early,

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Speaker 2: early on. I've known Zoe for a billion I've seen

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Speaker 2: it all. I've watched her in Bug. You know, Oh my.

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Speaker 1: God, Bug, he got really mad because we talked about

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Speaker 1: him in one of our episodes. He got mad. He

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Speaker 1: dm me. I was like, this is slander.

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Speaker 2: How is he? By the way, I think he's really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about my ex boyfriend and my

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Speaker 1: He is an amazing wife. She's so nice. They live

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Speaker 1: so I see that. I've seen them, and he's killing it.

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Speaker 1: I think he took over his dad's business and he

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Speaker 1: thank god.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, it was wild, wild, all the

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Speaker 1: boys fighting, and you used to have like New Year's

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Speaker 1: eve parties. That were the best. Those were the most fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, we used to take over as well, you know,

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Speaker 2: we took over mom's house and just into you know,

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Speaker 2: raging parties. Crazy.

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Speaker 1: Those were the most fun. Those were so fun. But

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Speaker 1: you and I have a lot of similarities in some ways.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're very different in other ways, Like you

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Speaker 1: can hang way harder than I can. But we both

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Speaker 1: grew up with famous parents and then you chose to

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Speaker 1: go the route of also being famous. I chose that

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Speaker 1: like you chose that route after extraordinary. And we both

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Speaker 1: also struggle with anxiety, and you and I have really

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Speaker 1: connected on that subject.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually I texted you last week. I'm not

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Speaker 2: about anxiety, but I know that you know all the

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Speaker 2: good doctors. Anytime I have sort of some mental health

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Speaker 2: like question, I'm calling Zoe and I I texted you

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Speaker 2: actually about ADHD. You know, we can get an anxiety

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Speaker 2: in a minute, because that was It's a huge part

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Speaker 2: of my life. But I will say to those who

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Speaker 2: what it is. Because sometimes I think that we can

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Speaker 2: attach ourselves to that feeling, and you know, we we

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Speaker 2: we almost like take it on as our as our personality,

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Speaker 2: and it's not like it's not who we are, it's

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Speaker 2: just what's happening. You know. Attachment for me sometimes is

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Speaker 2: good when I'm having a bit of a bout of it,

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Speaker 2: even though I am on lexapro. You know, shouldn't me too, same?

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Speaker 1: Twenty milligrams, babe.

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Speaker 2: I'm twenty We're the same. Yeah. Well, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: make shirts that said, like, you know, lexa, like twenty

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Speaker 1: You know, it's actually not a bad idea because it

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Speaker 1: almost not we could start a side hustle in our neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Of destigmatizes it if people are literally wearing like I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just super honest about it because I think,

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Speaker 1: and I honestly think that this comes from having, for

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Speaker 1: I would kind of combat that is by being super

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Speaker 1: self deprecating and open. And so I always like say

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: So I like overcompensate by just being super like I

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Speaker 1: just so like, oh, no, before you can say anything,

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Speaker 1: And so sometimes it comes off almost like in a

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Speaker 2: I don't know that Wilder, you know, Wilder did, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean this was in eighth grade. So he stayed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, each of my kids, it's so different

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the silver lining of you having and going

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Speaker 2: right But and I know this from experience with again Wilder,

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Speaker 1: It's so funny because like with Ace, he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: don't feel real. And that's like disassociation, you know, you're

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Speaker 2: These feelings are just feelings. It's not who you are,

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Speaker 2: and it will you will get through it.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all, because in that moment.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's just going to be forever, you know.

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Speaker 2: So like I was, I don't know. Three years ago,

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Speaker 2: I mean, trying to be a dad, you know, going

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Speaker 2: know how to I don't know how to function. But

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Speaker 2: I had a choice. And it was one of my

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Speaker 2: And and I I would never in my I would

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, practice what you preach too, and you

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00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: have I'm doing your podcast, and we and I have

436
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: on my podcast and we sort of, you know, we

437
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 2: we get into these conversations about you know, oh my god,

438
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: this is what you need to do. And when we

439
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: give advice to friends, you know, it's very sound advice,

440
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: but we don't oftentimes follow our own no no, no,

441
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: I find myself in that situation all the time, like,

442
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: you know what, you got to do this, this and

443
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: this and this is what you're feeling. And then I stop.

444
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe you should do that too, Oliver our

445
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: like one hundred.

446
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: It's so much easier to give advice rather than to

447
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: like enact it in your life.

448
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: Oh I know, but I'm definitely I'm not.

449
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: At the point in my podcast where I'm giving any advice.

450
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to you should Maybe you should. I mean,

451
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be good advice, but it's.

452
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we'll have it like an ask

453
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: Zoe one o one, you know, just ask me something.

454
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: Through your filter, like a fuck that and fuck him

455
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: and you know, yeah.

456
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: I'll ask my therapist, I'll ask my healer. We'll get it.

457
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: We'll get a full team on on board.

458
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: You should bring your healer and therapist on I.

459
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: Mean, and I don't think my therapist would ever do it,

460
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: but I do think I do think Jackie would do it.

461
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: She's so incredible. I went to like a weekend seminar

462
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: that she did in O Hi, all about like your Shadow,

463
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: and I just fell in love with her. It was

464
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: her and Casey Crown they do it together, and I

465
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: just like fell in love with them. And now I

466
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: work with Jackie, and I I am so grateful. It

467
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: really like helps me take a look at like things

468
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: from a different point of view.

469
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: Are you into psychics and stuff?

470
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: Very very much?

471
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: So?

472
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: I have an appointment next week with a psychic named Fay,

473
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: who I love to but she follows me on Instagram,

474
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Sometimes like is this just like

475
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: the biggest waste of money I've ever you know, just

476
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: like I mean it's not crazy expensive, but like it's

477
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: still money.

478
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: And it's you know Fay, because you know, I mean,

479
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: I've seen a thousand psychics because my mom and if

480
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: it's the same Fay, I know Fay very very well.

481
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: It is, I'm sure the same Fay. Are you being sarcastic?

482
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: No, I swear to God I love I should have

483
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: got well, tell fucking Faye that all of he says hello,

484
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 2: because I will. No.

485
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: I know she said that the podcast, She said my

486
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: podcast would be successful. I'm not there. It's not really

487
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: working yet. But I'm going to go back and talk

488
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: to her about it.

489
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: No. I mean my mother is you know, so into

490
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: the oracles, right, yeah? And I have. She's presented all

491
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: of that to me at a young age, and I

492
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: have sort of taken it on and I've seen them

493
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: all and talked to them all, and do.

494
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: You love it?

495
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: Like?

496
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Do you get something from it?

497
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: Here's what I think. I think that I think that

498
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: we're too complicated. Our brains are too complex not to

499
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: be able to connect to something bigger and deeper, you know.

500
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: And if someone can sort of access that and feel

501
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: what they feel, I believe that that that is a

502
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: real possibility. There's grain of salt, you know. Obviously it's

503
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: not just take it at its word. I do think

504
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: that it is. There's positive affirmation to it all to

505
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: where when I finish a session, I'm like, everything should.

506
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Be great, amazing. I want to.

507
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: Be as famous as my sister and George Clooney. Look

508
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: out you know what I mean, Like I leave those

509
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: sessions like that, and then I'm like okay, like okay,

510
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: you know, but I I have definitely consulted them a bunch,

511
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: especially with jobs. When I am in a situation where

512
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, do I take this job or do I

513
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: take this job? Do I leave my kilt my kids

514
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: for for two months or not? I'm like calling all

515
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: the psychics like what do you think?

516
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: Do they all say the same thing. That's what I

517
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: want to know.

518
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: They do, honestly, Faye. They was the one who basically

519
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: said when I was going to do nash.

520
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that was my favorite show. It was my

521
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: favorite show.

522
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: Go do it, Go do it like it's going to

523
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: be good for you. I know it's hard because you

524
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: just had Rio. Rio was ten days old when I

525
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: had to leave for Nashville, and I was really gutting

526
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: me because I'm a dad first, Like, yeah.

527
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: You're an Honestly, you're an incredible dad. My kids are

528
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: obsessed with you.

529
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: Thanks. I love your fucking kids. They're always in my

530
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: garage like hey, can I can I have that bike? Yeah?

531
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: Well, during during COVID when I want to get back

532
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: to the nashvilleing because I'm so obsessed. But during COVID,

533
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: Ollie would set up like full he lives like literally

534
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: nuts around the corner and he is on a cul

535
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: de sac, and he would set up like these like ramps.

536
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah right there, and he would set up these rams.

537
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: And my kids were like, why aren't you more like

538
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: Allie to run?

539
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: No? I know, well, you know, we're a big mountain

540
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: bike family. And I had a really nice bike that

541
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: ever my kids grew out of, and you guys, you

542
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: adopted the bike.

543
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: He sure did, We sure did.

544
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: And then body has a suron which is like an

545
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: electric motors I see.

546
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: I literally just watch him.

547
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the neighborhood.

548
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: And uh, I have a hard time with those bikes.

549
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: And whenever Ace goes to bings, they ride those fucking bikes.

550
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: And I know, well Ace is always like Dad, like

551
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: I want one, Like I want one of these, and

552
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: you need one of these.

553
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: There's a very big difference between your kids and Kate's

554
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: kids and my kids. Like your kids know how to

555
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: ride those bikes. My kids have no fucking idea they learn.

556
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: We bought Ace a full motorcycle helmet.

557
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: You did, Yeah, just walk in Brentwood.

558
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to walk, just to walk around the neighborhood.

559
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: So like I literally he rides these bikes and I

560
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: get pictures from all over the Palisades, Brentwood, like the

561
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: West Side with just like a picture of Ace in

562
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: a full looking book. And then I also get pictures

563
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: from Ace and Bing and River at the farm shop

564
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: having machas. And Rob is literally my husband's in construction

565
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 1: and he'll be like, I was just underneath the house

566
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: and my fucking twelve year old kid is having a

567
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: macha at the farm shop.

568
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: So Bang is my sister's kid, my nephew, and As

569
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: and Bing are our best homies.

570
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: They are and they're so cute together. They've been friends

571
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: since kindergarten when Ace, you know, they were They've been

572
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: in school together since kindergarten. They've been really good friends

573
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: ever since. And they are super tight right now.

574
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cute.

575
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: Wait, you guys just did a skim sad Yeah, I

576
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: saw it. It is so good.

577
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun. We went in New York and

578
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: it was a whole family affair. And my kids are like,

579
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: what we're going to be in skims at you know,

580
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, they want to be in

581
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: the thing, and and and my you know, the whole family.

582
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: And it was it was a blast. I mean it was.

583
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: It looked so fun, it was really fun. It was

584
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: it was great. It was fun. I mean.

585
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: And you have a production company now.

586
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Yeah, it's called slow Burn Deal at Fox,

587
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: just producing shows.

588
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: And I love being a deal, just a deal.

589
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: It's just a deal. I love being an actor. But

590
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's too much to do, you know.

591
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: I'm an old get into be an old older man now,

592
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: and it's just such an unstable occupation, honestly, And it's

593
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: from a creative place. It's not as fulfilling as you

594
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: might think it is, because you are chasing your next job,

595
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: especially in this environment and landscape that are business is

596
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: in right now. Like you're kind of chasing a job

597
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: jobs like I'm doing. I'm doing a Christmas movie in

598
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: February for Netflix with Alicia Solverstone and it's really a sweet,

599
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: sweet movie, honestly, it is. At the same time, it's like,

600
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: all right, you have to fucking work, you just have to.

601
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: My production company allows me to sort of just be

602
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: more creative and put my brain out there and my ideas.

603
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: But it's crazy that like actors, it's the only I think,

604
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: it's the only profession where you don't get like a

605
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: promotion for doing good at your job, you know, Like

606
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: there's so many incredible actors who never will work or

607
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: who will work and then just never work again, even

608
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: though they're so talented, and it's simply it's not based

609
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: on their skill. So it's this weird. I'm so grateful

610
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: that Rob is no longer an actor.

611
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: I would die, I know, but he has some cool

612
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: stories though by.

613
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: The way, he can come on a different time and

614
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: tell them. Don't they make me.

615
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: Want to But but look at your look at your dad.

616
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: I mean, who is an iconic you know actor and

617
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: I played an iconic character.

618
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: And he went through periods where you couldn't get a

619
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: job and he would have to like reinvent him.

620
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Could write a book and what happened, you know, bang

621
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Bury and that's it. Yeah, he's had a resurgence like that,

622
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah happened, you know what I mean.

623
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful for him because he's so happy,

624
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: like he's happiest working. I mean, he's seventy nine years old.

625
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: And I said to him, like why don't you like

626
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: take a break. And he was like, when you take

627
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: a break, your body takes a break, and that that

628
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: can't happen. Like he just he has to keep going

629
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: and working and and he loves it so much and

630
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: it brings him so much joy, and that's such a

631
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: great I mean, what could be better than that doing

632
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: something that you love. But he's one of the like

633
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: very few lucky ones.

634
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: Your mom, your dad, Yeah, well, Kurt, my dad is

635
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: like you know, doing He's in Australia right now. I mean,

636
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: he's had a real major sort of resurgence. I mean,

637
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: the guy's making probably more money and doing more gigs

638
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: than he has in a long time. But Mom, Mom

639
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: has chosen a different path, you know what I mean.

640
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: Like she still wants to work for the it's got

641
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: to be the right thing, right, but she's more about

642
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: sort of her foundation and the last twenty years she's

643
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: just been building it. And it's a full time job,

644
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: you know, So that's sort of what her focus is.

645
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: Although I would just fucking die to see her back

646
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: on the screen. I just to me, it's a waste,

647
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's up to her. But was so amazing.

648
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: I watched so amazing. I watched a Sugarland Express, which

649
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: was one of her first movies, was Spielberg's first movie ever,

650
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 2: and we actually watched it in a in Spielberg's house

651
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: at in his theater, which was really cool because he

652
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: had a print of it. And she's so fucking amazing

653
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: and cute and charismatic and just and when I watched it,

654
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, Mom, it's not over, like you gotta do

655
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: it again, like you have to fucking work again, because

656
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: she's so incredible.

657
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: And she's just like comfortable with where she is right

658
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: now and focusing on her foundation, and yeah, no, she is.

659
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: It's hard sometimes, like with parents, because you want to

660
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like we're at this age now

661
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: where our parents are getting older.

662
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: And I Kate, my sister, I'm just like it's like,

663
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 2: oh my god, my mom. I'm like, Kate, don't yeah,

664
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: And she's like I know, but like huh, I'm like,

665
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: I know, but don't. We don't need to fucking go

666
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: there right now.

667
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: It's truthfully, like yeah.

668
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: It's we don't need to do it, but it's.

669
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: Like this weird thing and then you want to sort

670
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: of like help and say like, hey, you think you

671
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: should do this? I mean, my dad doesn't listen to

672
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: me about like anything regarding work. Only Max. I'll be like,

673
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: I think you should do that movie and he's like,

674
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to Max, like okay, but yeah,

675
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: I mean.

676
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: It's the guys that real, Like is that actually true?

677
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Max right now is like, you know, crushing it

678
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: right now, he's crushing it. He's working his fucking ass off.

679
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: I mean he works seven days a week. You know,

680
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: he just had a baby, he had a second baby,

681
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: and you know he was back at work.

682
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: Does that I know you're sort of being funny, but

683
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: do you care? I mean, does that hurt in any way?

684
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: Where I don't.

685
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Care at all? And I honestly, I mean I'm so

686
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: close to my parents and my brothers and I all

687
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: have like really special relationships in different relationships, so like

688
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: it's not that doesn't also that that's like not what

689
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: I'm good at. Like my favorite movie is Can't Buy

690
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: Me Love? Like I'm not, you know, like I'm not like, by.

691
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: The way, yeah, incredible.

692
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: Fast movie ever, But I'm saying so like I don't

693
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: like go to the movies. That's not like if I

694
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: get to go out, like when Rob and I go out,

695
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: I want to go out to dinner or like a party.

696
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to a movie, Like I

697
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: don't want to like sit in a room and like

698
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: not talk and not drink.

699
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like no, thanks, you know, I

700
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: get it. I get so.

701
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't bother me. I mean I Max is

702
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: the only one that really went into competition.

703
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: You have competition. You don't have any competition with your siblings.

704
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: And oh I do have competition with my sibling. But

705
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: about being the favorite, not about like work, do.

706
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: You really I mean kind of favorite?

707
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Max?

708
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: Like for sure, both.

709
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: I think, well, now I might be a.

710
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: Man dad like they both Max is the favorite.

711
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Well I handle everything. I handle everything like I handle

712
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: like I do. They call me for everything. It's like

713
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: family dinner. Is this that organizing? I organize our family trips? Yeah,

714
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: with the travel agent. But like I am the one

715
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: that's like you know, so I know we have like

716
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: different roles, but Max is just easier. Which is like

717
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: the last two episodes I did or that before that

718
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: was like all about this. My dad actually came on

719
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: and with Max and we were talking about how like

720
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: he's just an easier child in some ways, he's like

721
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: less needy. But as an adult, I don't feel that way.

722
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: As an adult, I feel like we're all jed Me, Max,

723
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: We're all sort of just like we all have like really,

724
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: we're so lucky. We have special relationships with all of

725
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: each of our parents, and it's like a you know,

726
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: do you feel like there's a favorite in your family?

727
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: Oh? Me? I mean my mom, I'm her favorite, like

728
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it.

729
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so funny.

730
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: No, I mean I think there's a special play for

731
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: the first born. Yeah, I'm not saying that overall, like

732
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: firstborn is the favorite because the firstborn can be a

733
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: fucking crazy person. But there's a special place because this

734
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: is where as a parent, you cut your teeth, you

735
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Rio had it so so much

736
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 2: better honestly than I. When you're when you're a first

737
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: time parent and you're like, Okay, I don't know what

738
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: the fuck to do, and I think I'm going to

739
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: sleep train you, and I know you're starving, but the

740
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: book says don't fucking feed, So I'm gonna let you

741
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: want your fucking eyes.

742
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: Out in there it's so psychotic.

743
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: Put them on the tit and like let's go. But

744
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: we're like no, no, no, you know. And even as

745
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: a teenager too, even as they get older and go

746
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: through their phases. As a parent, not just infant stuff,

747
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: you are cutting your teeth because you are learning from

748
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: your first born on how to do it for your

749
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: other kids.

750
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: And they're all so different. So it's like you're learning

751
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 1: this one kid and then you're gonna have another kid.

752
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, who who? Yeah, So you're so right. I mean,

753
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: I had a conversation with Wilder once when we were

754
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: going through it, and I think it was a school

755
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 2: situation or something, and I was angry, and I might

756
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: have said something, you know, that was wrong, or I

757
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: accused him of something that wasn't right, or I forget

758
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: what it was, but I basically said, look, you know,

759
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: you're growing up and you're learning who you are and

760
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: how to sort of navigate this new kind of teenage

761
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: world and you know, executive functioning and all this shit.

762
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: I said, I'm learning too, so I'm going to fuck up.

763
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: You're going to fuck them, and by the way, I'm

764
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: going to fuck up too, you know, And I think

765
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: we have to give each other sort of some grace stuff.

766
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: I will always go to my kids and apologize if

767
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: you know what, my bad. I shouldn't have yelled, I

768
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: shouldn't have done that. I went over the I went

769
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: over the line, I didn't know the facts. Whatever, my bad.

770
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's important, you know, honestly, as

771
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: a parent, to forgive yourself sometimes for maybe trying and

772
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: failing because.

773
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: We I mean all day. Yeah, yeah, I'm nervous about

774
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: the teen. I mean, Ace is about to be thirteen.

775
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: I actually called Kate the other day because I was like,

776
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: you have older kids, like help me, Like I I'm

777
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: and I remember when our kids were going into middle school.

778
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: She was like, buckle up, babe. She was like, this

779
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: is gonna fucking rip you apart. And it's true.

780
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard, and.

781
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to like know when I'm definitely like the

782
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: stricter of all the parents of like his crew, the

783
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: four of them, And you know, I don't really allow

784
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: play dates or hangs. I guess they'm not called plaates

785
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: anywhere like hangs during the week, and He'll always be

786
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: like I'm the only one, and I'm like, I don't.

787
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: Know what to tell you, like, why don't you allow hangs?

788
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, because it's a we have a

789
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: lot going on during the week, and I just feel

790
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: like he needs to be home and like doing his work,

791
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: and like the weekday he can do his thing on

792
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: the weekends, but the weekdays are for school. And but

793
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: at our school, the kids don't have any fucking homework,

794
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: so like, I know, so I'm.

795
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 2: Like, what do I do, Like I'm for contact Zoe.

796
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: Alsoe's kids and all my kids go all go to

797
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: the same school, different grades, but all the same school.

798
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: And Oliver went there, and my husband went there, and

799
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: my brother went there. It's like, you know, and it's

800
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: great school, but I wouldn't say it's the homework is not,

801
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm literally like, so the kid comes.

802
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: Home, especially Wilder, like wild like he's in eleventh grade,

803
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: like his pivotal year, and I'm like, yo, you got homework.

804
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: He's like, no, what do you mean? No, everyone has homework.

805
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: He's like I know, And then I can look because

806
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: you can go online and sort of you know, and

807
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: he's like, man, and there's no school. He's like sleeping

808
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 2: in till eleven. I'm like, you this three period. What

809
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: and then he's like he goes to school for like

810
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: forty eight minutes and he's backing. Yeah, another brief period.

811
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is going on? What am

812
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: I paying?

813
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I so I guess maybe

814
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: I have to talk to Rob. Rob is like way

815
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: stricter than I am, believe it or not. Very Oh

816
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: my god. He is like there and my kids don't

817
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: have social media. He doesn't have social media yet, and

818
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: I feel like he should get it. He's in seventh grade, Like,

819
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: I feel like he should get it, you know, with

820
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: the restrictions if he gets good grades in January. And so,

821
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, we have to figure it out.

822
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I have I don't know,

823
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: as you know, sort of the way that I do things,

824
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: it's very kind of liberal as far as parenting goes.

825
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I fucking go uh, you know, go

826
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: on your motorcycle. Be safe, be fucking smart. That's what

827
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: I say whenever my kids leave the house, and like,

828
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: be safe, be smart, be smart, be safe. You know.

829
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: It's like just have that in the back of your mind.

830
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: At the same time, I think the kids need this freedom,

831
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: they need to have that independence. They need to get

832
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: into trouble. They need to sort of feel what it's

833
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: like to pull themselves out of a situation that their

834
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: parents aren't going to aren't going to help with, right,

835
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: So I let them sort of go social media. You know.

836
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: It's like, look, I can't we can't avoid it, you

837
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It is part of our the

838
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: fabric of our culture right now. Do I love that

839
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: they're scrolling through TikTok? You know, no, right, but it

840
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: is what it is, and I just try to create

841
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: a balance. Like you know, Wilder does jiu jitsu twice

842
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: a week. You know, he's an he was an acting

843
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: he's an acting class. Like, okay, do that ship and

844
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: then you can, you know, you know, be a part

845
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: of what this this tech world is, which is just normal,

846
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: you know. And for me, I think that the more

847
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: that you give it to them, the less they crave it.

848
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: I totally agree you hold it back sometimes, like I it's.

849
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: A forbidden fruit. It's like I feel that way with

850
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: like sweets, with like everything. It's like if you then

851
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have like a kid like eating in your

852
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: closet or something.

853
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: My sister like she did not give rider who's now

854
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: twenty one years old, But it was like no, I mean,

855
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: she was very strict about sugar and this, this and that,

856
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: and he would confide in me as a little kid.

857
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: He would sneak downstairs in the middle of the night,

858
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: right and shake it whatever shit he could and put

859
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: it like under his mattress and his pillows and stuff. Right,

860
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: it's like I need it, you know what I mean?

861
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Right, Right, It's hard. It's hard to like know because

862
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: you and I are different in that way. Like I

863
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: would be like riding a bike next to him on

864
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: the motorcycle, like stay safe, but like it's just it's

865
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: very hard for me. So it's like it's I'm learning

866
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: and I'm learning as I go.

867
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: With Aaron, She's it's not easy for her. Yeah, but

868
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: Aaron took selects. Aaron's on selecsa that like she seems

869
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: like even person, but she had that real anxiety, like

870
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: real anxiety, and she was she was always like sort

871
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: of catastrophizing, you know what, I do that all the time. Yeah,

872
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: And it got so prominent and the visuals were so

873
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: real that I mean that she had to take on

874
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: is on SELECTSA to sort of curb those thoughts, because yeah.

875
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: There, intrusive thoughts are real, and they feel at the

876
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: time like it's like I'll talk to people and they'll

877
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: be like, well, has that ever happened, And it's like, no, motherfucker,

878
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: it's never happened, but it's going to this time, you know,

879
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: because it feels like in that moment, like there's nothing

880
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: you can do and it just it's like it's so

881
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm always so envious of people who just like don't

882
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: have that gene or that back because it's like I

883
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: don't even know what that would feel like to just

884
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: sort of like simply just be like we're good, everything's good.

885
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: It's a warning amazing, you know, Like I.

886
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: Just I don't well, it doesn't help that we are

887
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: inundated with you know, just fear based yeah, content. Yeah,

888
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: I especially like you know, with social media and your algorithm.

889
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: The minute you click on you know, you know your

890
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: son is kidnapped and raped and you're like, oh yeah,

891
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: and then when you're fed all of that shit and

892
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: now that its perpetuates your brain and you're just like,

893
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's gonna happen to ace. Yeah, leaving

894
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: the house. You know, you're just watching videos of kids

895
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: and hearing reading articles like the kid dies on an

896
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: e bite and you're just like, oh my god, you're

897
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 2: never on writing an eb that's true.

898
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: Actually that did happen, and I and I and I

899
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: that's why the child now wears a full But I mean,

900
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: how can like some of these things, like how can

901
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: they be good? Like we're giving our twelve year old

902
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: boys motorcycles? Like that's crazy?

903
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean is it? Though?

904
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean kind of, But I mean your kids, you know,

905
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: spends so much time in Colorado outdoors like you you know,

906
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: it's just totally different. You know, my kids are like.

907
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: Totally and I'm not I'm not saying, you know, be

908
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: reckless with it, but no, I know I was in

909
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: I was in New Jersey working. This is like last month,

910
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: and Aaron calls me and she goes, so body wants

911
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: to go on a ride out. I'm like, okay, I'm like,

912
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: what's a ride out?

913
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

914
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: She texts me this YouTube video of a ride out

915
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: where all of these kids meet up at a location.

916
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: When I say all, I mean like fifty to one hundred,

917
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: like seventy kids.

918
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: On like strangers yeah, okay.

919
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Posted on social media or the rideout is happening here

920
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: and there's like seventy of these fucking kids on their

921
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: e motorcycles or surans and so you know, like but

922
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: bing has all this stuff, and Aaron's like, I'm going

923
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: to take him. I'm like what she put my put

924
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: his bike in my truck and took him to this

925
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: ride out that already in Culver City. And he went

926
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: from Culver City all the way to Marina del Rey

927
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: into Santa Monica, up through Brentwood blah blah blah in

928
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: the middle of the fucking street. I have videos of

929
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 2: my son like wheeling down like Venice Boulevard.

930
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: Bless you, I mean me.

931
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on is highly illegal?

932
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: Like you saw you're fourteen in the street with a

933
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: pack of kids in traffic, meaning like you're on a sidewalk.

934
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: They'd taken over the road. And I was like, all right,

935
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: did you have fun? He goes that was amazing. I

936
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: was like, great, because that's the last time you fucking

937
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: do that.

938
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: But you let him.

939
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: I did because you know, I'm like that experience, you know,

940
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: that sort of feeling that he had and trusting him

941
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: even though honestly, probably was not the best choice for me,

942
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 2: even as a parent who is pretty lenient with that stuff.

943
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: Probably not the best choice because I know it's illegal.

944
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: He shouldn't even be on that bike in the street

945
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: right now. But at the same time, like you know,

946
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: have have a moment, you know, have an experience.

947
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: Live your life, live your life. I do most do

948
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: you think that most of these parents that are like

949
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: your kids friends parents, they are kind of like on

950
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: the same page as you.

951
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: We're definitely the more the crazy or more lenient family,

952
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: like one hundred percent, you know for sure, you know,

953
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean Sam is pretty lenient as well. I think like.

954
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: Aaron, Sam is one of my best friends and one

955
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: of their best friends, who also is our.

956
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: Neighbor, like right there, but yeah, I think Aaron and

957
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: and our family has maybe rubbed off on them a

958
00:50:54,600 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: little bit. But their daughter Land and his best friends

959
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: with my son, and she's I mean, it's like an

960
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: open door policy. And their kids are in and out

961
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: of my house like all the time. And she comes

962
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: in last night and she's like panting, like what the

963
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: hell is going on? It's the day, it is still light,

964
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: and she was afraid that she was going to get

965
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: kidnapped from her house, which is like literally across the

966
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: street five printed here. And it's funny. I mean it's

967
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: it's like I was like what I was like, She goes,

968
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: I got a friend kidnapped. I'm like, you're oh my god,

969
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: and that's Mitch. That's not even Sam. Mitch is Sam's husband.

970
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: It's actually me telling her, just kidding. For your life, Ollie,

971
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: I love you, Thank you for doing this.

972
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: Of course, babe, anything for you.

973
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Are you going back to sleep?

974
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: No, I have to wake up at five am and

975
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: drive to Colorado tomorrow, so.

976
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: I have this crazy. This was crazy, This was amazing.

977
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: It was really fast to what I've done, but it

978
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: was good for me because it got me my ass up.

979
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: I have infused some energy into my body and I'm

980
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: ready to start Agay

981
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: Okay, good well, I love you, thank you, Bye bye