1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noone Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Kelly's just looking at some of the teams that Harbor 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson thing, and I said, Jimmy Johnson and Harbaugh 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: are the only ones that hit a home run in 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: both places. It should be noted that Jimmy was such 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: a great personnel guy that when he left, he always 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: left teams with a lot of players. That helps a lot. 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: When Wanstat took over, they had dudes wants. That was 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: much more successful in Miami than people realize. I think 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: he's the last coach. Is he the last coach to 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: win a playoff game in Miami? But like he had 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: a better record when they fired him than Mike Tomlin 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: at the time had in Pittsburgh. But Pittsburgh doesn't fire coaches, 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: and it just shows you how you know, it's just 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: tough in this league. Mark Sanchez is now joining US Live. 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: He got the Cardinals at the Niners this Sunday, which 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: is fascinating because you know, I was watching Mac Jones, 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: and I mean, obviously there's certain coaches. Shane Stike and 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: made Daniel Jones ten for ten in his first ten drive, 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Like clearly where you land as a quarterback. It's incredibly valuable. 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: What is it about Shanahan? I joke that his playbook 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: should be called Quarterback for Dummies. It's virtually impossible. 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: Not to work. 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: But what is it about Mac Jones? Looked, that's the 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: best pro game I've ever seen Mac Jones have on 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: the road. They asked him to throw forty times. What 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: is it about the playbook of Shanahan? 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 4: Here's what I would equate it to. If you're a 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: coordinator worth your salt, You're like a GPS for quarterbacks. 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who's driving. I'm going to give you 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: a roadmap and I'm going to provide you with turn 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: by turn directions. You just got to execute these plays 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: for me and stay out of trouble. Just stay in 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: the center lane fifty five miles an hour and do 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: what I tell you. Right, Sometimes you're gonna have to 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 4: go off script. Sometimes you're gonna have to go fill 43 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: up for gas whatever it is, but they're gonna give 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: you the roadmap. So the mcveigh's, I mean, remember Sean McVeigh. 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: He brought Baker Mayfield in for like less than twenty 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: four hours and beat the Raiders in a two minute drive. 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell's done it with different players, but Shanahan specifically 48 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: with Mac Jones, and he started the game pretty shaky. 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: And when you read some of those articles about postgame 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 4: and Trent Williams going up to talk to him and 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: getting him to relax a little bit, and then he 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 4: just looked so comfortable, and you can really appreciate when 53 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: a coach can handle that, And that truly tells me 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: if this coordinator is any good. That's like the ultimate 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 4: way of determining if the coordinator's worth it. How many 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 4: different quarterbacks have played for you, and what does it 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: look like when your superstar is not playing for you 58 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: Andy Reid for example. You know Donovan McNabb, Jeff Garcia, 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: Tevin Cobb, you name it, Patrick Mahomes, different styles, different attributes, 60 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: but they're all gonna have some level of success. Jimmy Garoppolo, 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 4: Brock Purdy, now Mac Jones. So this is no different 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: for Kyle Shanahan. The thing that I'm almost more impressed 63 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: with is how he's doing it with the O line, 64 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: the patchwork O line that they're having to use right 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: now because they're banged up, and they still find a 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: way to get the ball to the playmakers and get 67 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: the quarterback to play at a high level. 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I know you've looked at Arizona. Ten teams in the 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: league are two and oh, ten or zero and two. 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: We know that doesn't mean everything, but Arizona. Arizona, to me, 71 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: has a lot of good players. I don't know if 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: they have the depth, the consistent line play. They're two 73 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: and oh now they faced the Niners. Do you buy 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Arizona's two and oh start? Because the Rams Rams started 75 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Denver started Baltimore last year, started off slowly and made 76 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: the playerffs. Two and oh doesn't guarantee anything. 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: It doesn't guarantee anything. However, stealing these wins early on 78 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: does set you up for success later on in the year. 79 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: You're not chasing potentially another team and keeps you in 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: pace for the divisional race. The themes there really are. 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: I do think Jonathan Gannon's brought a strong culture to 82 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: their team, and it's a balanced offense with Drew Petzig 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: and basically Kyler Murray's playing efficient football. He's avoiding a 84 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 4: lot of the negative plays. It's it's making the timely 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: throws and James Connor his ability to run down heel, 86 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 4: run down hill steals the play action. That's that's what 87 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: really gets this team going. And then Kyler picking and 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: choosing his spots to run. I mean, I know people 89 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: make the joke about you know he's he the way 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: he runs, he kind of looks like the toddler running 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: around with the remote control and nobody can catch him, 92 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 4: Like he just can't corral him. And so when he 93 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: does that the right way, gets down, doesn't get hits, 94 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: and then decides to make throws as he extends plays 95 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 4: and complete them. I mean, it's some of the best 96 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: in the league. You can put them up there with 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson in those extended plays, scramble 98 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 4: mode situations. My only concern is the mounting injuries. That's 99 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: really going to test the depth and sustainability of this defense. Remember, 100 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon he wants to confuse you with some of 101 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: those looks in the back end. And they're down a 102 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: ton of players, Their defensive backs are depleted. So how 103 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: exotic can you get with these coverages? How much when 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: you get exotic with coverages, you better communicate. So it's 105 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 4: going to be more of an emphasis on guys like 106 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: to Baker to stabilize that unit in the back end. 107 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: So Nick Sirianni always surprised me. I thought I did 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: his first press conference. I'd call people in the league 109 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: and they're like, I don't know if he's quite ready 110 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: to be a head coaching job, but he's really done 111 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: a good job, and he works in that city with 112 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: that culture, and I think, by the way, I think 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: it's also fair to say that people do get better 114 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: at their jobs, not just quarterbacks, but coaches. Brian Schottenheimer 115 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: I was told by people I trust he hadn't interviewed 116 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: for a head job forever. He was kind of an 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: old school offensive guy. And then I've watched them the 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: first two weeks. Dak looks great. Clock management's good, not 119 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: a lot of penalties. They're getting the ball. I mean, 120 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: they've created run lanes. I mean I gotta be honest, 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I thought this team could be a bit 122 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: of a mess. I think they've overachieved offensively. You've watched them. 123 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: You know Schottenheimer, do you not? 124 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, he was my coordinator for my first three 125 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 4: years in the NFL and the year before I got there. 126 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: So two thousand and eight, he was a coordinator for 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: Brett fav they acquired Brett Favre. Well. Schottenheimer was a 128 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: disciple of the Zampzi system and North Turner system, so 129 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: that was all numbers. You basically used three numbers to 130 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: tell the X, the Y, and the Z receivers where 131 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: to go, and then you'll add a tag for your 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 4: slot receiver on what route is. Well, Brett Farve, that 133 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: didn't jive with him. He was a words guy. He 134 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: was an old school West Coast guy, and so there 135 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: was a clash there. Well Shady adapted the whole system, 136 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: came up with code words that Brett Farv used. So 137 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: when I get there, he basically asked me, all right, 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: what do you want to do? Because the coaches, the 139 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: other players on the team, we might know the system 140 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: that we ran last year, but just because we can 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: talk about it. If the quarterback can't talk about it, 142 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: we're all getting fired anyway. So what hits your brain? 143 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: And I know for a fact the last few years 144 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: working with McCarthy and Dak keeping some of those core principles, 145 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: inserting some of the stuff that he's used throughout his 146 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: storied and long career in the NFL. He's been a 147 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: coach for over twenty years, just never a head coach. 148 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: He's got the pedigree because of his dad and all 149 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: the success that Marty Schottenheimer had in Kansas City. So 150 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: he was primed, poised and ready to go. And now 151 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: he's got history with Dak. They're speaking the same language. 152 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: And then the point is Dak's health. When he's healthy, 153 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: he's recognizing stuff, he's communicating with his coordinator. He's executing 154 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: at a high level. And it's obvious, it's palpable. I mean, 155 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: look at the clip after the game of these guys 156 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: in the locker room celebrating an absolute monster win in 157 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: overtime against the divisional rival, and he said, on this team, 158 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: we celebrate really cool stuff. And so he calls out 159 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: each guy's accomplishments from the game. So and so scored 160 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: a touchdown, yes, and the team is like fired up. 161 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 4: Those kind of moments, that's why you do it. Colin. 162 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: As a former player, that's what you miss. The bus rides, 163 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: the plane rides, the locker rooms after the game, you 164 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 4: can tell they have something special going in Dallas. Now, 165 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: it's just avoiding all the outside noise that's inherently a 166 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: part of the Cowboys and continuing to build that culture 167 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: that he started. 168 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it also should be noted when you're building 169 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: a coach culture, it does. You need buy in, and 170 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: they have looked real Exeter, so pro athletes need buy in. 171 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: You can't you can't just keep pounding the table. And 172 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: so good for Brian Schottenneimer. Ok, you did the Seahawks 173 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: Steelers game, which was a fascinating a second half. I mean, 174 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: between the snaffoo on special teams and Seattle's defense. So 175 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: I want to start with Pittsburgh because I had said 176 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: coming into the season they haven't been able to create 177 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: cohesion in their run game for seven years. And Aaron 178 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: just came from the Jets who didn't run well, and 179 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: now he's going to the Steelers, and I said, it's 180 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: going to look like a better version of the Jets. 181 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: A forty one year old quarterback who doesn't want to 182 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: run around without a run game. That is a big ask. 183 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: So let's take give us some of your video you 184 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: bring tape. What did you see from Aaron good player, 185 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: bad play that you liked or didn't? 186 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: Well? Listen. I think Aaron's going to get to the 187 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: answer a little more quickly than a lot of players 188 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: playing because of his history in this league, because of 189 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: all the reps that have mounted up over time. I 190 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: do think Arthur Smith and him have put together something special. 191 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: I think they're still trying to figure out how to 192 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: use DK Metcalf, Calvin Austin, you know, some of their 193 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: tight ends Friarmouth, John News Smith trying to figure out 194 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: exactly how these pieces fit into their offense and get 195 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: them in success successful positions essentially. But Aaron's done plenty 196 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: to win these first two games. They happened to lose 197 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: this most recent one and everything started to go downhill 198 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 4: after this interception. So we're going to start rolling the 199 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: clip here in a second, But just keep in mind 200 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: he had just tied Brett Farv for number four all 201 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: time in passing touchdowns before this. This was to surpass 202 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: Brett Favre and this is an elite play by Aaron 203 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: Rodgers and a mishap by Calvin Austin. So they're using 204 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: a formation out to the right that they used earlier 205 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 4: in the game. And now Rogers is signaling, so he's 206 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 4: kind of like counter punching off of a jab earlier 207 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: that he threw a touchdown to DK metcalf On. Now 208 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 4: we saw this Chris Jones, Kansas City Chiefs Chargers Week one. 209 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: If that defensive end wraps inside and leaves the outside 210 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: lane open, this is what you're talking about, a defensive 211 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: rush that has to be in sync. So boy and 212 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: mafelects to go inside. Jaron Reid says, hey, I got 213 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: to cover the outside. Aaron Rodgers reading to the right, 214 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: nothing's there. Look how fast he processes realize the defensive 215 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: end is inside and gets outside. The guy's forty one 216 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: years old. He just had achille surgery two years ago, 217 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: and he's about to throw one of the best throws 218 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: I saw all weekend and break the record to be 219 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 4: number four all time and passing touchdowns to Friarmouth. That's 220 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: Friarmouth's position, the back pylon right there, he's running a 221 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: route that keeps him there. Red zone, low red zone 222 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: scramble rules facing. I need somebody at the back, Pilon. 223 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: I need somebody at the front, Pilon. Aaron Rodgers is 224 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: throwing this thing to a spot where only his guy 225 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: can get it. These rules and the integrity of these 226 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: rules are paramount. Calvin Austen, I said it on air, 227 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: brings ants to the picnic. You can't go interfere with 228 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: that lane. Your position is the front pylon. If he 229 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: doesn't mess with that football, that's a touchdown. In this game, 230 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: we're seeing a very different tune about the Steelers. Rogers 231 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: mentioned it in his press conference after the game. It's 232 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: exactly the way we broke it down, not just in 233 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: this clip, but in the game live and those kind 234 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: of mistakes. We're talking that kind of margin of air. 235 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 4: We're talking three to six yards of difference in positioning 236 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: and spacing, and it's a completely different ballgame. Incredible play 237 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 4: by Aaron, complete blunder by Calvin Austin. He's got to 238 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 4: get better and remember his low red zone scramble rules integrity. 239 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: Now moving on to Sam Darnold, I think Kubiak, his coordinator, 240 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: I just thought. He really put him in great positions 241 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: this weekend, and he's doing some old school kind of 242 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: West Coast Shanahan Kubiak kind of stuff. He's going under center, 243 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: five step plant and ripping the ball down the field. 244 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: You just don't see that anymore, especially near the goal line. 245 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: So go ahead and roll the clip, and I want 246 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 4: you to watch Sam's eyes integrity, his eye integrity. How 247 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: quick that ball pops out of his hand on a 248 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: five step drop plant. You just don't see it anymore. 249 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: This is like a throwback twenty years ago. You saw 250 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: Lway do that, Marino do that. But here's the concept 251 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: basically up top and Jigba's on that post, and that's 252 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: really your alert down here at the bottom the three receivers. 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 4: That's a concept that you'll get to if the alert 254 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: is not open. And when you realize that alert isn't open, 255 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: and you see Patrick Queen, the middle linebacker number six, 256 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: adjusting to your formation and shade it to the right, 257 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: you got to hold your eyes for those first five 258 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: steps and move him slightly to the left to create 259 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: a window to throw this ball to Barner, their tight end, 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: second year man out of Michigan. So watch the steps one, two, three, four, 261 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: five balls out come on Colin. That's like, that's like 262 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: the old combine drills. That's you know, old school l way, 263 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: like you just don't see players do that anymore. And 264 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: I love that Clint Kobiak is still employing those things. 265 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 4: I love Sam's eyes on that play. It was. It 266 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: was a real nostalgic moment and a key moment for 267 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: the Seahawks to get a victory. 268 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: By the way, let me before we wrap it up, 269 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, a head coach of often in the NFL, 270 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: can help with personnel. Offensive coaches tend to be better 271 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: at developing run games and offensive lines. If you look 272 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: the last six or seven years, the better offensive lines 273 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL at the end of the year are 274 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: offensive coaches Harball. I'm watching Justin Herbert's first nine team 275 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: games with Harball, and I go back to his last 276 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: twenty games with Staley, and I don't know exactly what 277 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: it is, but I mean, stylistically, he looks the same. 278 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: He's still big, Art moves well, but he has cleaned 279 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: up something. Harbas's cleaned up something. He just doesn't turn 280 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: it over. And is that eliminating plays from a playbook, 281 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, because the receiving course still feels a guy short. 282 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: How do you what is Harbaugh doing here? In your opinion, 283 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: it just feels like I'm getting just a cleaner, tighter 284 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: justin Herbert. Still big, still moves, still big arm, still accurate, 285 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: but it's different. What do you think it is? 286 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: I think he's starting to reach that point in his 287 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: career where his structure, the protocols in place, the preparation 288 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: and understanding the reads are are really starting to fall 289 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: in line. That rolodex of coverages that you've seen versus 290 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: specific plays are just coming up to the forefront of 291 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: his mind. And he's also understanding this is where this 292 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: is where backs really take the next step in their 293 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: maturation process. We're not just running plays on the field ever. 294 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: In practice, you're running a bunch of plays, but you're 295 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: practicing specific situations. And when the call comes in the headset, 296 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: do I know why the play caller gave me that play? 297 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: What's the play caller's purpose? If you can answer that 298 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: clearly and succinctly as soon as the play call comes in, 299 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: you have an excellent chance to be successful on that play, 300 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: and you can tell it's happening. The one thing I 301 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: will say, you know, I understand the contrast to Staley 302 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: versus Harbaugh defensive guy to offensive guy, but don't forget 303 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: I mean they were up twenty eight nothing in a 304 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: playoff game in Jacksonville and absolutely blew it. And that 305 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: wasn't all Justin Herbert, right, I mean Joey Books that 306 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: got a penalty for slamming his helmet down, Like, you know, 307 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: come on, So I think things change there if you 308 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: win that playoff game. But I think part of this 309 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: is just timing wise with Herbert. He still has the athleticism. 310 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 4: He's like the prime of your career. To me, you 311 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 4: still have the athleticism, but now you have the knowledge, 312 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: Now you have the experience, and now you can get 313 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 4: to the answer faster than a lot of other players 314 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 4: because you're an elite processor. And so it's all coming 315 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: together for Justin Herbert. You know, maybe it's a new girlfriend, 316 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 4: maybe it's the new offensive system. I don't know, but 317 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: whatever it is, it's working and it's awesome to see. 318 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is one of the really nice guys. 319 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Mark that was great, absolutely primo stuff today and enjoy 320 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Niners that's going to be a good 321 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: that game is through the years, they've given the Niners 322 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. They've matched up well, so that's 323 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: going to be a great watch on Fox. As always, 324 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez delivers J Mac your Arizona Cardinals. You picked 325 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: him as your shocking team in the NFL, and I 326 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: got to be honest with you, I should have had 327 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: him last weekend. I think I like the Niners. 328 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: Let me just remind you. 329 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 5: In that opener against the Saints, Juwan Johnson catches a 330 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 5: touchdown pass to tiet but the cabal gets dislodged, so 331 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 5: they didn't cover against the Panthers and they barely covered 332 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: against the Saints. 333 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: Those are like bottom five teams in the league. 334 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 5: So Arizona needs to close the door when they go 335 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 5: up twenty seven to three. 336 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: Colin, you got to run away and hide. 337 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: Don't disagree. Yeah, but they've given the Niners trouble through 338 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: the years. They have Kyler Murray running around is given 339 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: that defensive front seven some troubles. J mack Herdline News Next. 340 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 341 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: and noon eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 342 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 343 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 6: Hey it's me Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast, 344 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 6: Inside the Parker for twenty two minutes of piping hot 345 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 6: baseball talk featuring the biggest name the newsmakers in the sport. 346 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: Whether you believe in analytics or the. 347 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 6: Icast, we've got all the bases covered. 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I'm calling him your 358 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 5: guy because of that segment earlier, but OC Kevin Patello 359 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 5: Patoulo sorry, says the situation dictates his play calling. 360 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 7: When you look at when we game plan and stuff 361 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 7: like that, that's obviously always the first thing we do 362 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 7: is how we want to push the ball down the field. 363 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 7: And as a staff, we work really hard on the plan, 364 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 7: especially you know, these next couple of days to put 365 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 7: that on there. And that's a part of it. And 366 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 7: sometimes you know in game which just doesn't happen. It's 367 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 7: definitely something we want to do. It's not something we're avoiding. 368 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 7: So I know, going forward, you know, we have the 369 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 7: plan in place and if it comes up, it'll definitely happen. 370 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, zero passing touchdowns. 371 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 8: Now. 372 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: I have Jalen Hurts in fantasy. I'm a big Hurts guy. 373 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 5: You know, I have him top five. I think you're 374 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 5: inching closer to putting him at number five. I will 375 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 5: say this, This RAMS secondary is going to be without Witherspoon, 376 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 5: who's very good. 377 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: And you know, I know what Kobe is it? 378 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: Kobe? 379 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kobe Durant has played well early safeties. 380 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: I think there's an opportunity for Hurts to get some 381 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 5: big plays down the field. It is a great matchup, 382 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: certainly the number one game of the weekend. 383 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the Rams usually can avoid trouble in 384 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: the back end because they create such a great pass rush, 385 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: so they don't need to be It was a surprise 386 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: that they didn't take a tackle or a corner. In 387 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: this draft, a lot of people were surprised they took 388 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: another running back and another outside linebacker. So they feel 389 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: like they're a corner shy and it feels like they 390 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: have to go heavy into a quarterback and a tackle 391 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: next year offensive tackle. But I think their pass rush 392 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: gets them out of concern most of the time. I 393 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: mean cam Ward again, just they don't allow a running game. 394 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of third and longs. So I think 395 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: this is the game of the weekend. I think it's 396 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: a really good game. 397 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: How about the Rams may have found their Zach Bond. 398 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 5: Remember how Zach Bond was like a kind of a 399 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 5: nobody with the Saints and now he's Landambro land Man. 400 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: There you go, you know. 401 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 5: Obviously the Atlanta Yeah, so this is the guy who 402 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 5: was undrafted and he looks like he has the chops, 403 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 5: you know. Sometimes Colin, it's the undrafted guys, the guy's 404 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 5: drafted late who have that they're they're hungry, they have 405 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 5: that desire. 406 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 3: To rise up and be a star. 407 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: And Landman he make him plays everywhere all he's a ballhawk, 408 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 5: similar to Zach Bond. I like him a lot, and 409 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 5: he may be the guy in charge with Hey, you 410 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: gotta stick with Sakuon barkleyut of the backfield. 411 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: That's a tall order. 412 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 5: Next up, Colin, let's go to Jayden Daniels Washington. I 413 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 5: got my buddies in DC. They are monitoring this closely. 414 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels this knee injury. They're calling it a sprained knee. 415 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 5: Dan Quinn said. Daniels will definitely not practice today. 416 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: There is the. 417 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 5: Potential potential for him to practice Friday. 418 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: Now. 419 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 5: I'm on record, I would not force him back against 420 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 5: the Raiders non divisional matchup. 421 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: I would save him for next week. 422 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: I believe they have the Falcons next week in a 423 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 5: big one. 424 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota is the backup. What do you do here? 425 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: If you're dan Quinn well, I mean, I think this 426 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: is with young athletes. It's always a game time decision. 427 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: It's amazing. With a good night's sleep forty eight hours. 428 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's right now, it's Wednesday, he could feel 429 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean by Saturday night he's going to bed, 430 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: He's like, I feel great. So you also have great 431 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: training staff. So my take is you just have to wait. 432 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: I would always rather play him. I think playing hurt 433 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: is almost just it's a reality of the NFL for 434 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback. You're always playing dinged up by week three 435 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: and week four or But to your point is it's 436 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: not one of the bigger games on their schedule. I 437 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: do think though, they've had extra time to prepare because 438 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: they played on Thursday against Green Bay. And if you 439 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: have an extra time advantage, use it. I mean in 440 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: this division, in the NFC. The NFC this year, i'd 441 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: argue talked about him is better than the AFC. You 442 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: have extra prep time, take advantage of it and win 443 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: the game. I probably play him. 444 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 5: They also lost Eckler to an achilles. His season's over, 445 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: so Washington could be down Zechler their starter or what 446 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: would you call him the third down back? You know, 447 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 5: I know they got crosskey merit, but if you're down 448 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: QB one and running back one or two. 449 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: Whatever like that. 450 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 5: I don't know that Washington's a lay up this weekend 451 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 5: against against the Raiders. I have no no action on 452 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 5: this game. Do you have a leaner You're gonna wait 453 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 5: for the quarterbacks? 454 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: Certain, yeah, I don't know. 455 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: It's like the COVID year. You have to wait until 456 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Sunday morning to see who's playing, I'd stay away from it. 457 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, final story, Colin is to Sammy d Sam Darnold 458 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 5: not off to an amaze easing start statistically, but they 459 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 5: did get the win over the Steelers in Pittsburgh. Coming 460 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 5: off their victory, brock Heward broke down what made Donald 461 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 5: so successful against Pittsburgh. 462 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 9: Sam Darnold, I think knows personnels as much as anything else. 463 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 9: Sam could throw it to the number, Sam could throw 464 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 9: it outside as well. Sam's got plenty of horsepower. You 465 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 9: can get those gimme hitches, you can get those go 466 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 9: routes on the premier. You could certainly take advantage of 467 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 9: things on the outside. But where's the strength of Sam's game. 468 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 9: Where's the strength of your personnel? 469 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: Right now? 470 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 9: Cooper Cup is amazing, amazing at feeling space between the 471 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 9: hashes JSN. He talked about his body control of Mike 472 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 9: McDonald yesterday and those areas and his short airy quickness 473 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 9: off the charts. 474 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Seattle in this by. I think Seattle 475 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: is a ball knocked loose in the red zone away 476 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: from being two to zero and a heavy favorite in 477 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Week three. So I had Seattle making the playoffs as 478 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: a wild card team. I like him in this spot. 479 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: I think the defense is really fast. I think are 480 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: really alert. I thought they totally dominated the second half 481 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. I liked the coach. So I mean, you know, 482 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: let's not forget Kevin O'Connell knows quarterbacks. He tried to 483 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: re sign Donald Sam wanted to be the starter, well 484 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: paid and have nobody behind him to threaten him. Whereas 485 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: JJ mc McCarthy if Donald stayed was you know, they 486 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: drafted him. They gave up two picks in the first round. 487 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 8: Yep. 488 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think you look at that now. 489 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: I think Seattle john Snyder GM for the It's almost 490 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: like Baker to Tampa for the price tag. They got 491 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: a you know, Tampa got an a quarterback for a 492 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: B price. Seattle got a B plus quarterback for a 493 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: C plus B minus price. So there's there is value 494 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: if you don't have a superstar quarterback, what's the number 495 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: because you can surround it with more good players. So 496 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: I think Tampa and Seattle got breaks. They got real 497 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: value at the best position and most important position in 498 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: the sport. 499 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 5: I just want to ask about this home field mystique 500 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 5: in Seattle. So I'm looking at the numbers here, uh 501 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 5: two and seven last season at home and against the 502 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 5: spread as a favorite one four and one, Colin I 503 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: is lumin Field that much is it's still difficult to 504 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 5: play in We know Legion of Boom it was. 505 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: It was very tough. 506 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: They were unstoppable Dame team traveling three thousand miles with 507 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: a fairly untested quarterback against a hyper aggressive, young, fast defense. 508 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a spot for Seattle Dome team cross country. 509 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think Spencer Rattler actually has talent. 510 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think maybe New Orleans found him. I mean, 511 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: he always had a good arm, he always moved like 512 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: he's talented. But my take is this is not a 513 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: great spot for the Saints. Yeah. J Mack with a news, 514 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 515 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: Herd line. Jim Harbaud talk on the show today, Joel 516 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: Klatt had interesting point that's next. 517 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 518 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: in noon Easter not am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 519 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio. 520 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: App almost all overnight and then when he leaves, they're 521 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: a mess. And so it's just he's a very unique personality, 522 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: and he used to be really intense, really intense. He's 523 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: lightened up noticeably the last couple of years, just in 524 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: the last year and a half two years with the Chargers. 525 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: Here's some of Jim's finer moments. 526 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 8: It feels like New Year's Day, you know, it feels 527 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 8: like being born, feels like coming out of the womb. 528 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 8: You know, it's like here and there, it's comfortable, it's safe, 529 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 8: and now you're out and born. Light's run, it's bright. 530 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: Tell myself, it's not just another day. 531 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: It's two days. 532 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 8: He's the opposite of a to the house plant is Field. 533 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 4: Just like Field, Corn. 534 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 8: Doesn't need to be talked to, and like Moses, I'm 535 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 8: gonna diluting on my staff. Mister Mili, you would say 536 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 8: Jarati yes, karaty no, you know, safe in the. 537 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: Middle, squashed. 538 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 8: I think if you also heard me say, I mean 539 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 8: there's not one gene in his body, I wouldn't like 540 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 8: immediate portray, you know, to Rigato. 541 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 4: Justin Patrick Herbert. 542 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: I also think when you have so much success, you 543 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: win a Natty at Michigan and then you you you know, 544 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: you've gotten to a super Bowl, and then you take 545 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: a job where you're familiar with the state, and you 546 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: get a great quarterback that makes it it's so hard 547 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: for like Ben Johnson, whether it works or not. Ben 548 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: Johnson's like, I'm gonna go to Chicago because the quarterback 549 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: looks pretty good. Like that's a real thing in this league. 550 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: It is, you know, if you don't have I mean, 551 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: that's why Urban took the Jacksonville job. I mean, you 552 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: look at it from the outside, you're like, okay, Trevor Lawrence. 553 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, the only time a coach has taken a job, 554 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: maybe in the last ten years, where you're like, oh, 555 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna work was Matt Lafleur getting Aaron Rodgers on 556 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: the tail end of his prime and Harbaugh getting Herbert 557 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: Like those were the two you were like, that's gonna work, 558 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: and it's gonna work. Your one, Like, that's gonna work. 559 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: Most of the time, you've got a weird owner, you know, 560 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: you've got a billionaire who's impulsive, or you don't have 561 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: a roster, you know, and even if everything's right, this 562 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: this is such a week to week league. But Matt 563 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: Lafleur with Aaron Harbaugh to Herbert, those work, and those 564 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: work instantly. But I mean as good as Kyle Shanahan is, 565 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: he has a losing record of Christian McCaffrey doesn't play 566 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: like it is so hard in this league to win games, 567 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: and Harbaw just does it fast, and you know, he's 568 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: just a very You know, it's not just a personnel thing. 569 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Because the Chargers defense was last on league. It's first, 570 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: and they lost a Bosa. You know, it's still Derwin 571 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: James and Khalil Mack and it's a couple of young 572 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: fifth round corners and it's just you know, it's they 573 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: lost Abosa and got better. That doesn't generally happen, so 574 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: it all works. I asked Joe Klatt earlier about how 575 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Harbaugh evolved. 576 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 10: At Michigan after the COVID year, they struggle, he comes 577 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 10: back on remember that restructured deal at Michigan, and he 578 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 10: comes back and in twenty twenty one he came out 579 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 10: and like sat for a production meeting with us for 580 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 10: forty minutes, and I was like, what is happening. What 581 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 10: Jim did post COVID wasn't about football. It was about people, 582 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 10: and he became much more of a people person, even 583 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 10: with all of his quirks. But what never left him 584 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 10: was the foundational things that he believed in. From a 585 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 10: football perspective, I dealt with two very different Jim Harbaugh's 586 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 10: and the one that's coaching right now with the Chargers. 587 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: I think we'll win the Super Bowl. 588 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 8: Yeah. 589 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: It just he kind of lightened up a lot of people. 590 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: You know, they get older, they have some success. You know, 591 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: you sense your mortality. You're on the back nine of life, 592 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: and you start enjoying it. You know, we'll see you tomorrow. 593 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: First thing's first, coming up next