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Speaker 1: All right, this is Billy Wagner and this is The

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Speaker 1: Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, May nineteenth, twenty twenty five. Guys, how

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Speaker 2: are we doing on Monday?

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Speaker 3: Spectacularly? Well?

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Speaker 2: Good, Jim, how are you doing, Buddy, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Doing better than the Philly's front office.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna get into that for sure.

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Speaker 1: I noticed you had Billy Wagner introducing the show. Is

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Speaker 1: that because of the crisis A closer?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Every once in a while, I'll try to like

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Speaker 2: tie a theme into.

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Speaker 3: See what you did there, Todd.

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Speaker 4: This is a thinking man's show, thinking woman's show.

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Speaker 2: So if you gotta be thinking, you gotta be on

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Speaker 2: your on your feet, you know, ready to rock and

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Speaker 2: roll when you turn on The Philly Show.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that was a little nod to what transpired.

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Speaker 2: On a wild Sunday morning, and a and a then

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Speaker 2: a fun Sunday afternoon. The Phillies sweep the Pirates this

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Speaker 2: weekend at Citizens Bank Park. Friday night, Bryce Harper gets

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Speaker 2: his thousandth career RBI joins this historic group of one

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Speaker 2: of the youngest guys that have a thousand RBIs thousand runs, score,

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Speaker 2: thousand walks.

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Speaker 4: Saturday night, Zach.

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Speaker 2: Wheeler ridiculous, ridiculously. I mean I was looking into some

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Speaker 2: of his numbers on Saturday, and he's like pitching as

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Speaker 2: well or better than he has at any point in

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Speaker 2: the last four years. You know, you sit there and

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Speaker 2: go like, Wow, I wonder what this could look like

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year if he's healthy. And

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Speaker 2: then Sunday the Phillies win one nothing. Mick Abel has

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Speaker 2: this historic debut MLB debut for the Phillies out duels

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Speaker 2: Paul Schins, you know, six scoreless innings, nine strikeouts, no walks.

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Speaker 2: But then before the game, of course, the big news

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Speaker 2: that Jose Alvarado's event suspended eighty games for taking a

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Speaker 2: performance enhancing substance, doesn't get paid, will not pitch in

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Speaker 2: the postseason.

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Speaker 4: What a weekend?

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Speaker 3: What a week.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I say I'm doing better than the

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Speaker 1: Phillies front office, I mean, I'm you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: kidding and exaggerating, because today was a good day. I

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Speaker 1: should say Sunday was a good day for the Phillies

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Speaker 1: front office. They got one of their number one picks

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Speaker 1: who had spotted a little bit in the minors. They

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Speaker 1: got him to the big leagues and he delivered. Mick

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Speaker 1: Able did a great job going back to Triple A.

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Speaker 1: But he's got to go with a good taste in

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Speaker 1: his mouth, feeling like he can get back here someday,

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Speaker 1: and that all the improvements he've made, they're kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, they're taking hold, and he saw results and

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Speaker 1: that's great, and that's great for an organization. But this

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Speaker 1: Jose Alvarado suspension is a major headache. It's a major

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Speaker 1: concern to me. It's a major blow in the short term,

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Speaker 1: in the present, potentially the long term. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: not available for October. This is a team built for October.

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Speaker 1: He's your number one bullpen weapon. He's having a great

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Speaker 1: All Star season, and now you've lost him for eight

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Speaker 1: games in the postseason. It could have long ranging impact

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Speaker 1: because now if somebody in multiples don't step up and

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Speaker 1: fill that hole in the bullpen, that significant, humongo hole

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Speaker 1: in the bullpen, they're going to have to maybe bite

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Speaker 1: hard and part with someone they might not want to

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Speaker 1: part with to get the bullpen help they need, because

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Speaker 1: you know, this is all about winning and winning now,

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Speaker 1: and if there's a hole there. They need to fix it,

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Speaker 1: and there's been a hole created by Jose Alvarado, one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite guys in that locker room. Great guy,

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Speaker 1: big heart, good person, made a mistake, was irresponsible and

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Speaker 1: has hurt his teammates.

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Speaker 5: I agree, Jim, a lot to unpack, obviously, But if

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting in the front office, the biggest part of

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Speaker 5: this is that I will not have this man available

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Speaker 5: to me for the postseason. This is what it's about,

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Speaker 5: and that's the biggest thing in The biggest takeaway I

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Speaker 5: have from this is that they're going to have to

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Speaker 5: replace that person, or someone will have to replace him.

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Speaker 5: It might be internal, it might not, but you know,

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Speaker 5: it was a it was a bullpen that struggled from

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Speaker 5: the beginning and really has picked up nicely over the

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Speaker 5: last probably twenty games or so. But that said, I mean,

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Speaker 5: you're looking at other guys having a step forward.

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Speaker 3: It's nice to see what some other guys have done.

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Speaker 5: But the biggest bow to me, they don't have them

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Speaker 5: available for the playoffs, man, and that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: Totally agree, Totally agree. Because this team is built three

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Speaker 1: hundred plus million dollars payroll, stars up and down the

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Speaker 1: roster three trips of the postseason, feeling like this is

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Speaker 1: the year you can you know, complete the unfinished business,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have that weapon for October, the month

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Speaker 1: that's going to find this season. Oh my god, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a you know, I use the word terrible today

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Speaker 1: in front of Dombrowski and he took an exception, but

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Speaker 1: I stick by it.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and you know, let's let's talk about the

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Speaker 2: short term solutions, potential short term solutions, and then let's

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Speaker 2: look at the potential long term solutions.

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Speaker 3: We are back.

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Speaker 2: So the Phillies on Sunday activated Jose Ruiz from the

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Speaker 2: injured list. They're going to make another move on Monday

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Speaker 2: when they option mcabel back to Triple A. But so

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Speaker 2: it sounds like the short well, the shorts solution. We

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Speaker 2: kind of know they're gonna they're gonna try to make

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Speaker 2: do with what they have. They're gonna try to lean

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Speaker 2: more on Jordan Romano, Matt Strom or Ryan Kirkering. But

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Speaker 2: then you know, Rob Thompson and Dave Debroski said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to lean more on.

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Speaker 4: Joe Ross, Jose Ruiz.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, so that's the short term answer. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline is at the end of July. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to, like you said, Jim, bite hard and

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Speaker 2: maybe give up somebody they don't want to give up

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Speaker 2: or two or more depending on how everybody else is pitching,

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Speaker 2: and and you know, try to bulk up this bullpen.

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Speaker 4: I mean Rubin.

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Speaker 2: We asked Dave Dombrowski this earlier and said, boyd if

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Speaker 2: you really think somebody's going to have you hold you

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Speaker 2: over the barrel, it says, ah, well, you know the

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Speaker 2: price is going to be high regardless, But don't you

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Speaker 2: think teams are going to be holding the phillies over

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Speaker 2: the barrel right now if they wanted to jump on

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Speaker 2: July thirty, First.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I would think. So, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what special when teams know.

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Speaker 5: That that, you know, there's sort of help bent to

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Speaker 3: I think what the front of office is going to do.

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Speaker 5: And this is something that I would consider doing, is

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Speaker 5: to let things play out as far as Aaron Nola

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Speaker 5: back in the rotation. And at that point, I do

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Speaker 5: believe that there's a possibility you can slide a guy

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Speaker 5: to see if he can do leverage innings and you

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Speaker 5: find that out probably sometime in June or July, to

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Speaker 5: see if this guy can actually do it, and if

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Speaker 5: he can do it, then you write it. If he

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Speaker 5: on trying to get that back in bullpen piece. I

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Speaker 5: think they're going to be trying to do that anyway,

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Speaker 5: But if you want to, but if you want to

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Speaker 5: try to work it out internally, I think that's one

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Speaker 5: of the solutions that.

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Speaker 3: They should try.

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Speaker 5: And I think that Rob Thompson and others, maybe Caleb

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Speaker 5: least an option and a possibility. Now you don't know

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Speaker 5: if that's what's going to happen, but I think it's

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Speaker 5: to do. In the meantime, obviously, what I would want

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Speaker 5: which is the player I want to target or players

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Speaker 5: that can help this team, and try to see whether

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Speaker 5: I can work out a deal. You know the fact

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Speaker 5: that the fact that make Abel actually pitch the way

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Speaker 5: he did could help in so many different ways. One,

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Speaker 5: it could help the Phillies use him as a big piece.

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Speaker 5: It could also help them as far as their overall depth.

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Speaker 3: See how they want to maneuver otherwise.

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Speaker 7: But I think this is a really really big thing

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Speaker 7: for him to have performed the way he did, because

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Speaker 7: it adds the depth that they need if in fact

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Speaker 7: they have to really bite the bullet and give up

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Speaker 7: some real talent to get the talent they need to

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Speaker 7: put him over the top.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you that starting pitching depth is so

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Speaker 1: important right now, and they have an abundance of it

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Speaker 1: because you salute your first obligation is to find a

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Speaker 1: solution from within. I hear what you're saying about Tyler,

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Speaker 1: about Taiwan Walker. I just they were down a man

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Speaker 1: in the bullpen anyway, in my opinion, and they needed

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Speaker 1: to pursue an arm in the bullpen anyway. I like

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Speaker 1: firepower out there. I don't know if Taiwan Walker's stuff

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Speaker 1: a peek. See what happens. They're ten over five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I think this week they're gonna take over first place

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Speaker 1: in the National League Eest by the way, and see

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Speaker 1: what happens. But to me, I just see this ending

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Speaker 1: up with them having to make a deal for somebody

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Speaker 1: in leverage. I mean, thank goodness Romano has put it

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Speaker 1: together and put it together well, big save on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was a tight, tight game. You lose

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Speaker 1: that game. How demoralizing if you had lost that game

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Speaker 1: said that, you know, on the day that you lose

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Speaker 1: your big bullpen gun. The bullpen did a hell of

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Speaker 1: a job behind the kid able. So it was almost

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Speaker 1: like wounded tiger sometimes, you know, the wounded tiger in

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Speaker 1: the jungle, he fights the hardest. And it was like,

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Speaker 1: you know today that bullpen. They were wounded and they

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Speaker 5: The reality of it is, from now until the trade deadline,

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Speaker 5: You may you know, be able to go get X,

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Speaker 3: They got to go get it.

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Speaker 5: If if so, then the priority may change down the road.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this is happening in this next week

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Speaker 4: They going to go out?

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Speaker 2: You know, they've got to get somebody now, they got

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Speaker 3: And that's gonna be a hard thing to do. You're

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Speaker 5: You're getting that for You're getting a guy for two months.

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Speaker 4: All right, so that's Jose Alvarado. Guys, it's Monday.

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Speaker 1: Can I say one other thing about about Jose Alvarado, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: So Dombroski said that this substance was to help him

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Speaker 5: See it seems seemingly had some effect both the I

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Speaker 2: Right, David rob Tims says, we're looking at this as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was preventable. So I understand what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: Here Rubert as a former major league player who was

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you let your organization down? What

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not upset, I'm pissed off. If I'm a teammate,

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Speaker 5: He's a guy that I really have a lot of

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Speaker 1: And I think it's got to use to use your

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Speaker 3: Who's some snap.

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Speaker 4: Snapping so he can be back.

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Speaker 2: that's when the eighty game suspension ends, so he can

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Speaker 2: help them out the final six weeks of the season

439
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Speaker 2: or so. But it does have even beyond that long

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Speaker 2: term rammic ramifications. He's got a club option for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, So does that influence you know, what.

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Speaker 4: Does he look like when he comes back?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: Now you have to wonder. So so anyway.

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Speaker 2: Guys, it's Monday, so it's time for Best Week by

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Speaker 2: Manco and Manco.

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Speaker 4: Manco and Manco.

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Speaker 2: Fellas best Week because Manco Manco is the best of

449
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Speaker 2: the best. Is where we pick our best Phillies player

450
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Speaker 2: performance play whatever you want to give a shout out to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, isn't it a consensus. Is there a consensus here?

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Speaker 4: I think there's got to be consensus. I think it's

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Speaker 4: got to be. I think it's got to be make able.

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Speaker 11: To make able, man, I mean, come on, for so

455
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Speaker 11: many different reasons.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know the news number one.

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Speaker 5: About Albarado, the fact that he's pitching against Paul Skeins.

458
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Speaker 5: He had struggled in twenty twenty four as a prospect,

459
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Speaker 5: and you know, he made some whatever mental, physical, emotional

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Speaker 5: adjustments to have a really good start to the season.

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Speaker 5: He's a guy that struggled with his command just overall

462
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Speaker 5: in the minor leagues until this season. Really pitches well

463
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Speaker 5: for like the last three or four times he's starting,

464
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Speaker 5: comes to the big leaves and pitches against the Pirates

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Speaker 5: and Paul Skins and a chance to sweep the buckos,

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Speaker 5: and he pitches like a freaking stud made breaking stud

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Speaker 5: period and it was just awesome.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to read faces. I like to think about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm reading his.

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Speaker 5: Face on the mound, and he is unwavering man.

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Speaker 3: His delivery stayed consistent.

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Speaker 12: He got the ball, he made his pitch, he got

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Speaker 12: the ball back, he made the next pitch, and I

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Speaker 12: loved his comments before and after about you know, just

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Speaker 12: trying to be one percent better, just staying in the moment,

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Speaker 12: just you.

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Speaker 5: Know, playing the game, that it's a different game. Yes,

478
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Speaker 5: same game, different space, all those things. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what happened from twenty twenty four to the beginning of

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Speaker 5: this year.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five, but something happened. This kid matured,

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Speaker 3: and I am so impressed by the way he handled things.

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Speaker 1: It's a great call. He's going to get my slice

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Speaker 1: of the man with Manco's pie as well, though I

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Speaker 1: really like what Jordan Romano did in that ninth inning.

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Speaker 1: But good for Mickabel. This is the guy who didn't

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Speaker 1: have just command problems last year. In the last two

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Speaker 1: years in the minors, they controlled problems. He's walk in

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Speaker 1: the building and he goes sixteen today, nine strikeouts, zero walks,

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Speaker 1: twenty six of his first twenty nine pitches on Sunday

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Speaker 1: strikes And if you know you're wondering what happened, this

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Speaker 1: might be a great time to go back and queue

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Speaker 1: up our conversation with Caleb Cotham from a few months ago,

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Speaker 1: and he talked about mick Abel and talked about meeting

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Speaker 1: with him over the winter and in this era of

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Speaker 1: information and analytics and giving these guys a lot to process.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like they might might have thought they were given

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Speaker 1: him too much to process in the past. They pulled back,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's just happening for this kid. He's reacting

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Speaker 1: and not overthinking things. So I think it's it's the

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Speaker 1: the flip side of information that sometimes a little bit

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Speaker 1: at a little bit of it can be too much.

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Speaker 1: It can be a little too much, and maybe he's

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Speaker 1: just thinking a little less and just letting it happen,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's throwing some strikes. He's

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Speaker 1: off eight good starts and Triple A comes up here

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Speaker 1: and has a dynamite one on Sunday, So that conversation

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Speaker 1: we had with Caleb Coffa might offer a little insight.

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Speaker 1: I would just recommend it was one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: podcasts we've ever done. I would recommend folks going back

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Speaker 1: and checking it out for a little insight on what

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Speaker 1: they were trying to accomplish with mick Abel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was something along the lines of

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Speaker 2: like what does it feel like to try not as

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Speaker 2: hard and just what is it. What is it like

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Speaker 2: just to try to get outs and not necessarily think

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Speaker 2: about you know, your mechanics in a certain moment, are

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Speaker 2: throwing a certain pitch a certain way and oh my gosh,

519
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Speaker 2: my slider's not didn't move this way, or you know,

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Speaker 2: just like, what's it like just to get out? Just

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Speaker 2: just focus on getting out, simplified, simplifying things. He and

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Speaker 2: Mick has said that we're before multiple times and just

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Speaker 2: trying to simplify things, just trying to go out there

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Speaker 2: and compete instead of thinking about everything before every single pitch,

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Speaker 2: and that can kind of be a paralyzing type of thing.

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Speaker 2: But man, Mickabel's numbers, I just want to go over

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Speaker 2: just that it was an historic It wasn't just a

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Speaker 2: good start.

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Speaker 4: It was an historic start by Mick Abel. So six

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Speaker 4: scoreless innings.

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Speaker 2: First Phillies pitcher to throw six scoreless innings or more

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Speaker 2: in his major league debut since Jared Iikoff in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I think it's only been done twelve other times, twelve

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Speaker 2: or thirteen other times in Philly's history. So mick Abel

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Speaker 2: joins that club. He strikes out nine, As you said,

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Speaker 2: that tied Kurt Simmons in nineteen forty seven for the

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Speaker 2: most strikeouts in a MLB debut by a Phillies pitcher

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Speaker 2: since at least nineteen oh one, he allowed no walks.

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Speaker 2: So six scoreless innings, nine strikeouts, no walks. He is

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Speaker 2: one of only three pitchers since at least nineteen oh

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Speaker 2: one to pitch six or more scoreless nine strikeouts, no walks.

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Speaker 2: Showed it in Monaga did it in April first of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Nick Kingham did it in April twenty ninth,

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. So he's one of three pitchers in baseball

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Speaker 2: history to Judo's three things. In his major league debut,

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Speaker 2: his second pitch of the day was ninety nine miles

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Speaker 2: an hour. He had done touched that number only once

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Speaker 2: this season with the Iron Pigs. I went back and

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Speaker 2: looked at all of his track pitches over his minor

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Speaker 2: league career, and so like, you don't have you missing

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Speaker 2: his double A reading numbers and whatnot. But he had

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Speaker 2: only hit ninety nineth like three other times in his

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Speaker 2: minor league career. Track pitches a lot of first pitch

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Speaker 2: strikes forcing fastball averaged ninety seven point three miles an

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Speaker 2: hour today, And I laugh only because he had averaged

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Speaker 2: ninety five point six this season for the Iron Pig,

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Speaker 2: so he was filling the adrenaline at Citizens Bank Park

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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: He was feeling I got to say a couple of

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Speaker 5: things about Let me say a couple of things about.

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Speaker 3: What you just mentioned.

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Speaker 5: As far as the numbers are concerned, there are so

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Speaker 5: many times that a young player comes to the major

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Speaker 5: leagues and that ninety five ninety four, whatever's zone, all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, it's ninety two ninety three. It's not

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Speaker 5: quite the same because the ball feels a little heavy,

567
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Speaker 5: you're not feeling really comfortable, you're squeezing it a little bit,

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Speaker 5: your ass is a little tight, and you're not letting

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Speaker 5: it fly.

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Speaker 3: That shows me a lot.

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Speaker 5: The fact that his velocities just in general were up

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Speaker 5: shows me that this guy's got a little gumption.

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Speaker 10: And it also the other part of it is and

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Speaker 10: I just think this is just fantastic for me for

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Speaker 10: this kid to sort of be able to block out

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Speaker 10: all the bs and to mentally focus.

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Speaker 5: That's a really hard thing to do when you are

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Speaker 5: taking the mound, or you're getting your first at bat,

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Speaker 5: or you're doing whatever. There's so many things swirling around,

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Speaker 5: and for him to be able to bear down and

581
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Speaker 5: focus in that way and to have that kind of

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Speaker 5: adrenaline and to be able to make his pitches is

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Speaker 5: just tremendous and it's it's a bright light for me

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Speaker 5: to watch. It was one of the best baseball games

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Speaker 5: I've seen in a lot long time. I mean the

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Speaker 5: best baseball games in complete, in completion, just because of

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Speaker 5: the the entertainment factor and they were no home runs

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Speaker 5: and to.

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Speaker 3: Me, the way he handled things. Man, it was a

590
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Speaker 3: really cool thing to see.

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Speaker 1: And it was an hour and fifty nine minutes. It

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Speaker 1: was a sub two hour game.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful.

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Speaker 1: And then I wanted to I wanted to jump out

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Speaker 1: of the press box when I overheard a reporter saying,

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Speaker 1: that was the quickest game of my lifetime.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: It was like the year of the previous quickest one.

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Speaker 1: It was. Boy.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted it out earlier because I looked at that,

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Speaker 2: I said, that has to be that has to be

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Speaker 2: some sort of I mean, you know, I was thinking

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Speaker 2: like maybe a Roy Halliday or.

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Speaker 4: Cliff League game. It was up there. It was the.

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Speaker 2: Shortest nine inning game Phillies game since April twenty ninth,

606
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight. The Reds Pete Harnish outdueled Mike Grace

607
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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, won nothing. That game was one hour and

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Speaker 2: fifty eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: I think that game I covered it.

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Speaker 3: I think I may have played in that game.

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Speaker 4: Let me see, let me see this, Rube. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: pull this up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I played it.

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Speaker 1: And some porter said one of the writers in the

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Speaker 1: press box. Is the shortest game in my lifetime. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to just go right off the upper deck.

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Speaker 4: Yes, who guess who? Uh pinch hit for Mike Grace

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Speaker 4: in that game?

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Speaker 3: One?

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Speaker 4: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior Rubin, you played in that game?

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Speaker 3: How about that?

622
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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: What did I do?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He went over one?

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Speaker 4: I know you get a pinch hit.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a good a year for Oh no, no,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't ninety six.

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Speaker 1: You were you were you were the greatest pinch shooter

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Speaker 1: on Earth.

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Speaker 2: It was a it was a four to three, Ruben,

632
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Speaker 2: you grounded out. So I'm sure it was a good

633
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Speaker 2: quality about though. That's all but that, but that, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that was a lot, I mean, it was a

635
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Speaker 2: lot of fun just to watch mix. But and how

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Speaker 2: about this Paul Skeens too, he had he was pretty

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Speaker 2: He was obviously tremendous as well. But Paul Skins after

638
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Speaker 2: the game said this about Mickabel said, I was fired

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Speaker 2: up to pitch against him today. I've never met him.

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Speaker 2: I think we probably played in some tournaments growing up,

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Speaker 2: but I remember him being the guy in high school.

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Speaker 2: He said, the stuff's electric. From what guys were saying

643
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Speaker 2: coming back to the dugout, the stuff is electric. I'll

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Speaker 2: probably rewatch his start and I'll watch his next start.

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Speaker 4: Cool to pitch.

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Speaker 2: Against him, so you have Paul Skeens was like, that

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Speaker 2: was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Keenes was electric. He had twenty two swing and missus

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Speaker 1: and and Gabel had eighteen.

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Speaker 11: So that was the other thing I wanted to say

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Speaker 11: about abel seventy four strike ratio.

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Speaker 1: Four.

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Speaker 3: That was insane. Those numbers are amazing hallidate type shit.

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Speaker 2: Well, especially especially especially since you just talked about the

655
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Speaker 2: vilo going up and like, you know, seeing a tick up.

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Speaker 2: He also then would just paint something on the corner.

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Speaker 2: You know, he drop these curveballs in the lower you know,

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Speaker 2: right at the bottom of the zone for a strike.

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Speaker 2: You know, to think the first strike out of the

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Speaker 2: game when Neil Cruz. I think it was looking.

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Speaker 4: It was looking.

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Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, there's one strike out in the

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Speaker 2: first inning or two that they got a guy looking

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Speaker 2: who just just painting everything with ninety eight, ninety seven,

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Speaker 2: ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: It was It was a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 13: So can I say a couple of things. One, I

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Speaker 13: know it was probably planned already, but it made some sense.

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Speaker 13: You would think that you would have a guy like

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Speaker 13: JT the veteran catching him.

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Speaker 5: I think Rob Thompson made a great decision of allowing

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Speaker 5: Maseean to catch him. He's caught him, he knows him,

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Speaker 5: he feels comfortable with him, and I think that after

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Speaker 5: the game, I think Nick Able actually acknowledged that that's

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Speaker 5: one really really cool thing.

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Speaker 3: And I just feel like.

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Speaker 5: People keep talking about, you know, how come he didn't

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Speaker 5: leave him in for that extra ending, how come he

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Speaker 5: was dealing He's only you know, however many pitches.

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Speaker 3: Guess what, man, that was eighty four pitches that he threw.

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Speaker 5: As far as being in the major leagues, in the

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Speaker 5: stress that is associated with those pitches, that's like throwing

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Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty pitches for the kid. Okay, because

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Speaker 5: throwing eighty four pitches in triple A when no one

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Speaker 5: gives a crap about what you do compared to what

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Speaker 5: you the scrutiny and every single pitch and pitching against

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Speaker 5: major league hitters, dude, the stress is way higher. So

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Speaker 5: glad he got him out of that game and had

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Speaker 5: him feel really good about himself and.

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Speaker 3: It ended up being a historic day for the man.

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Speaker 3: So anybody who's.

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Speaker 5: Getting on Rob Thompson from pulling out of the freaking

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Speaker 5: game wrong, completely wrong.

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Speaker 3: And I'll go to my grade say it, No.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I totally agree with the stress of the environment,

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Speaker 1: sell out crowd, Paul Skins, bad news on the doorstep

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Speaker 1: in the morning. Now it's a zero zero game, then

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Speaker 1: it's a one nothing game. Tight all away. That was

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Speaker 1: a stress filled performance and the young man conquered it.

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Speaker 2: And I always go back to what Charlie mann I've

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Speaker 2: said this a million times in the show. Charlie MANU

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Speaker 2: would always take a guy, why'd you take out Roy

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Speaker 2: or Cliff or some young guy was coming up and

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Speaker 2: he's like, I want to take him out in a

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Speaker 2: good part of the game. So he leaves, leaves, the

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Speaker 2: ballpark feeling good about himself, you know, so he went

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 4: It's perfect. I agree with you, guys, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I really hope. On Sunday night, before he drove

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Speaker 1: back up to Lehigh, he he and his family got

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Speaker 1: a nice steak in Center City.

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Speaker 3: They did.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 11: Whole family's flying high. The girlfriend, the brothers, assistant, the coaches.

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Speaker 11: They're all there and they're enjoying it and they and.

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Speaker 3: They should because they all had a piece of the action.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, he seemed to He seemed to really want

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Speaker 2: to enjoy the day as much as possible, from the drive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to the drive out of the ballpark on Sunday night.

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Speaker 4: So it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to mention we're giving away a Manco a

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Speaker 2: Manco gift card as we wrap up Best Week by

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Speaker 2: Manco Manco, We're giving away another Manco Manco gift card.

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Speaker 2: Instagram for a chance to win. Go into the post

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Speaker 2: that we just put on our Instagram page right in

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Speaker 2: your favorite Phillies moment of the season. I have a

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Speaker 2: feeling of people who listen to this episode they might

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Speaker 2: drop in mick Ables.

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Speaker 4: Major league debut. That might be it might be one

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Speaker 4: to consider so.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorites. It might be my favorite.

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Speaker 4: It was cool. It really was cool.

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Speaker 2: And again, you know, you just feel great for the

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Speaker 2: guy all everything he's kind of gone through over the

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Speaker 2: years as a as a first round draft pick and

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Speaker 2: struggling and whatnot. So Jim, you said at the top

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Speaker 2: of the show, you think the Phillies are going to

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Speaker 2: overtake the Mets this week in the National League.

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Speaker 1: Geese, Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think, no, you know, no, I think. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think the the Metsi's go to the bow Sox tough,

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Speaker 1: tough assignment and the Philly has got to go make

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Speaker 1: some hay out and uh out in the Matt Gelb's

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Speaker 1: favorite town and and Denver and uh you know, beat

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Speaker 1: up on the Rockies.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I'm not said because he likes some

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Speaker 11: of the products that's available there, or is that some

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Speaker 11: for some other.

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Speaker 4: Reasons he's he's he's an outdoorsy man.

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Speaker 2: There are a number of reasons there's an outdoorsy man

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Speaker 2: out he's he likes to get out there and hike

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Speaker 2: the uh, the Rockies.

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Speaker 3: He likes to be he likes to be in nature.

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Speaker 2: He likes Yeah, he likes a little nature action. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: I am not going to be in Denver. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I Love Course Field.

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Speaker 3: Im not gonna be there either.

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Speaker 4: Top ten ballpark for me for sure.

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Speaker 1: Really, it's just it's weird, weird baseball.

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Speaker 3: It's just too big. But it's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty, but it's not baseball for me.

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Speaker 3: Now that franchise. It's a bit of a dis right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I never thought I would say.

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Speaker 4: I never thought I would see the White Sox that

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Speaker 4: have made actually record and losses in the season. But

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Speaker 4: I'm and certainly didn't think the Rockies would challenge them

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Speaker 4: and maybe blow by the challenge.

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Speaker 1: That's why the Phillies this week they gotta squash them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and then you know, get into

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Speaker 1: first place. And I'm telling you what, I'm having fun

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Speaker 1: with this season. Watching this season's been very entertaining so far.

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Speaker 3: Great, it's great stuff.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of things unpacked, a lot of things unfolding,

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Speaker 5: and there's a lot of moving parts and there's a

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Speaker 5: long way to go.

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Speaker 1: There's a long way to go in a short time

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Speaker 1: to get there. That's smoking the Bandit?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Is that granted? Smoking the Bandit?

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Speaker 1: I love that movie.

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Speaker 3: Great, great call.

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Speaker 4: That's a great movie.

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Speaker 2: So Monday night, eight forty pm Eastern, remember eight forty

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern, because they're playing out in Colorado, you have

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Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez against Kyle Freeland. Cayle Freeland has really struggled

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Speaker 2: this season, got an e array of over six. Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: eight forty pm Eastern, you have Jesus Lozardo against Antonio

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Speaker 2: Sinza Teila, He's got an e RA over six. And

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Speaker 2: then Wednesday, the series finale in Colorado, you have Taiwan

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Speaker 2: Walker who's taking Aaron Nola's spot in the rotation. He

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Speaker 2: is facing Carson Palmquist, who is on one with eleven

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Speaker 2: to two five e arra. I think that's a real

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Speaker 2: small sample size. I don't have a season. How many

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Speaker 2: innings this guy's pitched this season.

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Speaker 5: That offense has a chance to do some damage, get

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Speaker 5: their numbers up and get rolling into Sacramento.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So guys, that was fun. Lot,

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Speaker 4: I mean a lot.

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Speaker 2: We covered a lot man, I mean, Jose Alvarado Mickabele.

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Speaker 2: You know we'll be back later this week to wrap

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Speaker 2: up the Rocky series or talk about the Rocky series.

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Speaker 2: And we got a lot more stuff going on this week, So.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Lively pod mates, Later, Mally Jim.

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