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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. So we are here to talk about

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Speaker 1: Hard two reunion of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, But

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Speaker 1: I want to start off by discussing what I feel

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Speaker 1: like is the end of an era, and that is

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Speaker 1: the friendship between Porsche and Shmia. Now, as a journalist, Hey, Porsche,

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Speaker 1: as a journalis, I do want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: I read exactly what was said. But before I do that,

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Speaker 1: if you all watched Part two reunion last night, you

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Speaker 1: know that towards the end the conversation steered between Porsche

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Speaker 1: and Shamia's friendship and where things went wrong. Porsche addressed

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Speaker 1: the fact that you know, there were things that Shamia

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Speaker 1: sent her interviews.

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Speaker 2: She mentioned the breakfast club.

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Speaker 1: She mentioned how she felt that Samiya was not telling

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Speaker 1: the truth about the wedding she went to.

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Speaker 2: She felt that Shamia also was just on this.

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Speaker 1: Camp paraphrase, of course, but on this campaign to pretty

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Speaker 1: much tear down her name, and Shamiah tried to find

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Speaker 1: the words to address it as well. This morning, Porscha

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Speaker 1: woke up on ready and decided to make sure to

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Speaker 1: address everything that she felt and Claudia and Dustin. She

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Speaker 1: provided a few receipt she has tagger unseen receieved r

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 1: Queen Shamilla Mulwanghee first wedding. I'm by her side as

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Speaker 1: a bridesmaid. The location is Atlanta, Georgia. She spelled brides

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Speaker 1: made the s is not sidling Claudia, so we can

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Speaker 1: shut off the poster for that second wedding.

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Speaker 2: The second.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, you should okay.

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Speaker 3: It's a great line.

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Speaker 2: It's that big, all right. Second wedding was in Africa.

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Speaker 2: Reference interview at the Breakfast Club, Shamia stated, I.

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Speaker 1: Only had one wedding and clearly she had to slide

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Speaker 1: number two live number two. I sent as Shamia Morton

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Speaker 1: Flowers to congratulate my bestie for her joining r h

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Speaker 1: o A for videos. She made thanking me, followed by

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Speaker 1: an excited congratulatory phone call I made to her, as

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Speaker 1: well as limpy tap on Instagram. Force Lives of Peach

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Speaker 1: photos of excitement celebrated Queen Marge as a full time

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Speaker 1: Housewiman peach holder. She ended it with Shamia. She added

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Speaker 1: her all caps lying again. In her latest post, she

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Speaker 1: claims flobbers with for her birthday when the car clearly

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Speaker 1: said love and congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Queen now Claudia and Dustin.

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Speaker 1: As I read Shamiah's response to that that she has

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Speaker 1: since deleted, Jamiah has said that again, I had one

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Speaker 1: wedding that took place in my Robi, Kenya where you

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Speaker 1: attended was my dowry ceremony in my mom's backyard. Number two,

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Speaker 1: you sent flowers my birthday week just before we started filming.

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Speaker 1: I had my peach for over a month. I only

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Speaker 1: said we never celebrated. You can keep your fake receiech

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Speaker 1: with are fake as friendship. It's crazy how I can

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Speaker 1: be considered your laptof for writing Paul so hard for you,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time you say I was trying

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Speaker 1: to sabotage you. Make it make sense since I got

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Speaker 1: my peach you've been trying to find a reason to

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Speaker 1: end this friendship. You're unbelievable, dusted, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Oh remember that song. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I think

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Speaker 4: it's pretty clear what's going on here, right. Porscha and

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Speaker 4: Samia were childhood friends. Their mothers were friends, their mothers

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Speaker 4: fell out. They maintained whatever thread, you know, existence of

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Speaker 4: fact that they were childhood friends.

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Speaker 5: Right. They spent time together.

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Speaker 4: Smilah was television ready when Porscha got on the show,

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Speaker 4: and she needed a friend that could feel and had

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Speaker 4: personality and was connected in the city and shit and

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Speaker 4: ready for the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Shamilla was ready.

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Speaker 4: They were able to say with honesty, Yes, we were

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Speaker 4: childhood friends. We were besties. That's what they brought to television.

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Speaker 4: Porscha did some low down shit to Shamia on TV

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Speaker 4: when she let Faedra sit up there and say that

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Speaker 4: Shamillah was fucking candy and tied and she did this

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Speaker 4: and then perpetuated that rumor that Shamillah was a third

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Speaker 4: over that. Okay, they never got over that, and they

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Speaker 4: Enter the television show. Enter Shamiah being a housewife. Now right,

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Speaker 4: They're thrust on this main stage with a relationship full

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Speaker 4: of issues. Phadri's back every time she sees every time

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Speaker 4: Shamia sees Faedro, I'm sure she's triggered. She's playing nice,

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Speaker 4: which is the problem. Shamiah never addressed the shit that

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately, instead, instead of addressing it head on, Shamia

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Speaker 4: That's what happened. So what we saw today was the

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Speaker 4: culmination of all of that. They ain't real friends, they

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Speaker 4: hadn't been in a close friendship for a very long time.

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Speaker 4: Samiah getting close to Kelly. Sure, they are pissed, Porsche off,

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Speaker 4: Samiah talking about Porscha and the things that she was

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Speaker 4: and Porsche was actually holding back on that reunion stage.

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Speaker 4: We've seen Porsche in the heat of an argument. We

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Speaker 4: know how Porscha gives it up. She was actually holding

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Speaker 4: back on that stage. Shamiyah was lying on the stage.

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Speaker 4: Porscha was lying on the stage. We don't know who

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Speaker 4: was lying about what, but they both were lying on

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Speaker 4: That's literally what happened, and unfortunately they're what we thought

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Speaker 4: But it's just that simple to me, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Instead of Shmia addressing some very relevant and

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Speaker 4: real issues that she had with Porscha, she saved that

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then as the show came to

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Speaker 4: how she truly felt without addressing it with Porsha first.

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Speaker 5: And here we are. So that's what I saw happen today.

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Speaker 1: All right, So thank you all for coming to Mond

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Speaker 1: and night life, but Nolada, before you begin, I will

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Speaker 1: say this, dust that literally I was taking notes because

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Speaker 1: big point of my point that I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: after you, Claudia, and I still will. But what I

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Speaker 1: will say is Dustin said ninety nine percent of what

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, Claudia, Jordan, is your turn

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's why he's so good at this. That's

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Speaker 3: comprehend situations and can call things out and say it

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Speaker 3: so eloquently. I think was amazing spot on. I think

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Speaker 3: this is an example of what happens in girl friendships

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Speaker 3: when one feels like a bigger person than the other

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Speaker 3: and you kind of in the shadows and you're kind

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Speaker 3: of a little bit. I won't say Sami has been

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Speaker 3: a fan of Porsche's, but sometimes I think earlier on

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Speaker 3: she would be overshadowed by Porsche's fame and big personality.

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Speaker 3: Although Shemia does have the tangible things that Porsche really wants,

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Speaker 3: and I think a lot of times to make keep

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Speaker 3: the peace, I don't think Smid had defended herself when

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Speaker 3: things happened, and it's built up in aimosity and you

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Speaker 3: keep score, right, Like she's probably always been talking about

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Speaker 3: Porsche to some another friend, like you know this is

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Speaker 3: to come to my way, do you know? But publicly

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Speaker 3: she had a she kept a good face, a solid,

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Speaker 3: hearing that they weren't fucking with each other for a while,

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Speaker 3: because I remember Smia being very friendly to me and

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Speaker 3: not in a shady way towards Porscha. But I remember

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Speaker 3: being like wow, like usually best friends don't fratnize with

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Speaker 3: their best you don't really rock with, right. So I

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Speaker 3: I do think that for years Shemiah has been hurt

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Speaker 3: by some of Porscha's actions and never confronted her properly

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Speaker 3: and she's also a rookie at reality television, so she's

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Speaker 3: not as good as reading it, clocking it, insaying it

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Speaker 3: right away. And I also think when you still love

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Speaker 3: they were both doing this like desin what you said

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Speaker 3: so greatly, uh how like holding back. I think they

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Speaker 3: but you're not really saying what it is. I think

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Speaker 3: by the next reunion and all the social media stuff,

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Speaker 3: a matter of you go first, No, you go first?

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Speaker 3: Oh you go? Are you going there? Fuck it? Now,

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Speaker 3: I gotta unload on you if no one wants to

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Speaker 3: go first, full full fledged, like fully unloading the clip.

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Speaker 3: And I think the clip's been unloaded now and I

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Speaker 3: think they both have things that have been bothering them

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Speaker 3: that they've been holding onto and now it's gonna come out.

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Speaker 3: Which sucks because when you're bestied with someone you have

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Speaker 3: all the ammunition in the world, and you can make

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Speaker 3: a receipt look like anything because you have receipts from

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Speaker 3: all angles and you have you can you can craft

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Speaker 3: whatever story you want because you have all the you

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Speaker 3: have all the information, which sucks. You know, it does suck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look you two.

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Speaker 1: Claudia also said ninety nine point nine percent of things

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Speaker 1: I would say when I would like to add to

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Speaker 1: the conversation, I want to start up by saying this,

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Speaker 1: This obviously is entertainment for Claudia, Dustin and myself, right,

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Speaker 1: but we do not, obviously want to see the destruction

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Speaker 1: the childhood friendship happen. So I want to start by

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Speaker 1: saying that I've been doing press for Love and Marriage Huntsville.

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Speaker 2: That's back on air.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you've got all over the net, all over the timelines,

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Speaker 3: You've been everywhere. I love it.

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Speaker 4: The amazing season premiere. Btw. I'm sure we'll talk about

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Speaker 4: it at some point.

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Speaker 2: We will. Thank you so much. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, as I'm doing press for Love and Marge Huntsville,

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Speaker 1: a few journalists have been asking me, and this is

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Speaker 1: a place to talk about it. I've been asked a

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Speaker 1: lot of times for the past couple of days. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel responsible when your cat's members is good at divorce?

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Speaker 1: And I say, and I'll say this again, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel no respectility for cast members getting a

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Speaker 1: divorce because they have problems before there was a camera

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Speaker 1: what conversation Portie was happening with Chara and Pedra. Rightfully

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Speaker 3: feel like, how can I trust you? Like, first of all,

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Speaker 5: Right there?

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Speaker 2: Stand for me? There, you can move on, but.

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Speaker 3: You better say something and not just in the privacy

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Speaker 3: like Carlo said, as you disrespected me, I need you

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Speaker 3: So it made us be like are you? Are you weak?

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Speaker 3: I'm fighting with my girl like this. She lost the fight,

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Speaker 3: you know, she is like that, she's getting eaten up

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 1: Listen the reason why I subscribe to and Claudia if

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Speaker 1: I may, if you're okay with it, if not, tell

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, if I ever feel any kind of

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Speaker 1: In order for us to have this fruitful, working relationship

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Speaker 2: You yes for so long that you let's be real, y'all.

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Speaker 1: You sometimes forget while you're mad at somebody, but you

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Speaker 1: and is fine. I will never blame Porsche for this

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Speaker 4: Because we're childhood best friends and so we have that

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Speaker 5: On the reunion stage.

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Speaker 4: When Andy asked Shamiyah if she had talked to Phaedra

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Speaker 5: You talk.

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Speaker 5: This was her show, she was the star, she was

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Speaker 4: The focus was on getting to know her, and I

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Speaker 5: And that's what that is.

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Speaker 4: wanting to be on the show. They don't know each other,

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00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: but they said that they were best friends, and they

433
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: kind of leaned on that and got each other in

434
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: trouble doing it.

435
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 5: It's just as simple.

436
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 3: Sometimes you hang on to the nostalgia of someone you knew,

437
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 3: like you. There's a difference between meeting someone twenty years

438
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: ago and being friends for twenty years, right, And I've

439
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: had people say, oh, that's my girl, we've been friends

440
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: with twenty years.

441
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: No, we haven't.

442
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: We met twenty years ago, we went hard for a

443
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 3: few years. They were some years off, we came back

444
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: here and there. That's different. And I, like I said,

445
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: from my little experience, I definitely heard that they were

446
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 3: not rocking with it for a while. So seeing them

447
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: back as best friend, I was like, okay, cool. And

448
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: again I'm an outsider. I'm not involved in their friendship

449
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 3: like that. I will say this also, when you have

450
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: an unresolved like ripe with someone and you even it's

451
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: your faults to me, it is your fault for never

452
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: speaking your mind to Porsche. I'm going to say that

453
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: it is your fault for never telling her. You hurt

454
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: me when you said this, Tecker right away, because when

455
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 3: you don't do that, right, even though you're saying that

456
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: Porsche is your best friend, you are talking to somebody

457
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: else about that. Okay, you're talking to your other best

458
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: friend or your other friends or your man, and it's

459
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: a toxic conversation. Most likely. Can you believe she did this? Now?

460
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: Everything she does from then on out is through a

461
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: lens of side eye. And I don't really fuck with

462
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: you like that, Like I tell my friends once, I'm

463
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: not able to look you in the eye anymore. It's

464
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: probably because I talked shit about you and I wasn't

465
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: fooling with you, and I was mad at you, and

466
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: that's how you know I've checked out. I can't like

467
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 3: face you the same anymore. Some people good at it

468
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: being fake, continuing to be in someone's face, But hey, girl,

469
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm not be good me. You'll see it all over

470
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: my face. I have to resolve something right away or

471
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna fester and it's gonna be a wrap. They

472
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: have been able to play nice, and that's that Atlanta ship,

473
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: that Southern bell stuff that they do out here.

474
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: It's barry.

475
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: Atlanta girls are some, not all. Some of the Atlanta

476
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: girls in the industry are very clique ish. They go

477
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: to each other's events, they go to each other's slummer parties.

478
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: Is three separate groups of women in Atlanta. I'm not

479
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: going to tell you who the leaders are in the

480
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: three groups, but there's three and and like so like.

481
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 3: Even though they both are saying, oh, best friends, best

482
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: friend's best friends, I guarantee you the second or third time,

483
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: or even probably the first time Shemiah felt slighted by Porsia,

484
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: she was on the phone with somebody else talking about it,

485
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 3: and they probably had lots of conversations about can you

486
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: believe she did this? Then every little thing after that

487
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: is going to be magnified, whether it was justified or not.

488
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: So maybe Housewives auditions came up and Shimia didn't say

489
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: I want to be on it, but portion didn't offered.

490
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: I guarantee you they could have been a phone call,

491
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: and man, why did I girl? She didn't get you?

492
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: Ain't that supposed to be your friend? I know it right,

493
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: And then it gets gassed and more gas gets put

494
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 3: on the flant. It's natural and it's not That's what

495
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: happens in friendship, especially with women, Like it's our women's friendships.

496
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: I always say this are extremely delicate. Y'all can get

497
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: in fights, play basketball, elbow each other, someone that gets

498
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: a black eye, and y'all shake it off. Man, it's

499
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: all good, dude, we good. We goold wrap it up.

500
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: A woman's friendship a lot of times sadly, and I

501
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: hate I have to say this about us is so

502
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: delicate where the smallest thing can be overblown because we

503
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: overly analyzed. Will be on the phone, and then we

504
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: have our other friend that's hyping us up with the battery.

505
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, a girl can like walk by

506
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 3: and go and you're like, why she looking me up

507
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 3: and down like that. I got mad on time and

508
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: a girl did that to me and then she humbled

509
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: me real quick. She was like, oh my god, I

510
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 3: love your shoes. I'm over here thinking it's beef. She

511
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: just just gave me a look and I took it

512
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: as and got defensive, and we that's something that women.

513
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: We've got to stop doing that, you know. But I

514
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: think with them it's a communication thing. And because I

515
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: think to me it felt like she was an underlying

516
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: or second tier to Portie, she probably felt a little

517
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: intimidation and that's sad. But there's a lot of friendship groups.

518
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: This stars in friendship circles right where there's like the

519
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: alphas and Ma calling SMI a beta. But maybe she

520
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: feels that way, like I can't really tell her how

521
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: I really feel all the way. And now we're getting

522
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: twenty years of it in three episodes, and it's gonna

523
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: be bad.

524
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen and listen. I'll move on to the

525
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: rest of the reunion.

526
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: But what I will say is this, and this could

527
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: be as we saw, like transition out of it. I

528
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: think the only way this would be resolved. And I'm

529
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: not even sure they're going to have the conversation. I'm

530
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: just being honest, because it wasn't had our d that

531
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: a conversation amocks the three of them needs to be had.

532
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: It's just it just has to it has to. It

533
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: just it's just it just has to. And what's what's

534
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: been so interesting to me is it's been brought up

535
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: in other conversations off the show. And that's why a

536
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: lot of people when they when a lot of people

537
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: look at the real housewords of Atlanta.

538
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Now, great season, A plus. Love this season.

539
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: It is sort of the elephant in the room because

540
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: I think Porsia and Shamia are doing a disservice to

541
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: themselves by not having a real conversation about it first

542
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: and foremost. And I also think there has to be

543
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: something said that is also the elephant in the room.

544
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: Okay, this season is Porsia's show.

545
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and that's no disrespecting of

546
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: the ladies who I love the Well, well, this is

547
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Porsche is the only VET on the

548
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: show this season. When I say that, I'm not diminishing

549
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: the other girls, but think about it, Porsche is the

550
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: vet amongst three newbies and Drus Dora, who, by the way,

551
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: y'all keep sleeping on Juice of Dora. I think Dreu

552
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: so Dora have proven this reunion that she is a

553
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: potential mother, and I think Drew So Dora is a

554
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: potential force multiplier and I think y'all are sleeping on juice.

555
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: So Dora and the and the amazing that she has.

556
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: But going back to this show, because Porsche is the VET,

557
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: and I felt like Porsche dribble slam dunk, did a

558
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: three point shot, fillowed, a couple of people got a

559
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: t o. Porsche played the game of the reunion in

560
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: this particular. He's in better than anybody on that stage.

561
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: And I love all of you girls, but Porsche owned

562
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: this reunion. And Porsche the moment she said there were

563
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: her gold dressed and told everybody, I'm not gone to talk.

564
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my punt across. And they left her.

565
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: Oh you mean the reunion now this season the reunion. Yeah,

566
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: I'm about to send yes.

567
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

568
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people thought Porch was

569
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: a flop this season, and that's fine. But one thing

570
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I will say, Porsche owned that reunion. And Porsche Porsia

571
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: was able to articulate herself. She was able to handle

572
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: things under pressure. That reunion, to me was Porsche's redemption

573
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: story arc based on her ability to get her point across.

574
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this, and it's not popular, but

575
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest.

576
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: I felt that all of the girls on that stage

577
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: was unable to handle what was coming their.

578
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: Way, well the only so I agree that Porscha definitely

579
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: held court on their reunion stage.

580
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 5: Right.

581
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: To be fair, she's more seasoned than the rest of

582
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: the ladies on that stage. Cynthia has completely completely taken

583
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 4: up her space as a friend of the show and

584
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: her understanding and interpretation of that capacity, so she don't

585
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: really give a damn about being all the way deeply

586
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: into the mix like that.

587
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: Right, So the.

588
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: Porscha was the only VET on that stage, per se,

589
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: Shemiah is still concerned with how she appears or comes

590
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: across on camera, right, So she's not They could have

591
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: made that alliance on camera type shit. You know what

592
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Be who you are on the camera, Sit

593
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: the girls down on camera and just be like, yo,

594
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 4: I feel like we all need to sit stick together

595
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: as we navigate this friend group because we're all new

596
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 4: to it. They should have did that on camera, the

597
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: same way Nini and Marlow said down at their restaurant

598
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: in season four and talked about going shopping. The next

599
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: thing you knew there was a duo for the rest

600
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: of the season, right when they thought they was gonna

601
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: beef out do it on camera. That being said, Porscha

602
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: didn't really have an opponent on the stage other than Kelly.

603
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: Kelly really don't give a damn and we'll say what

604
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: she has to say. And she was kind of zinging Porscha.

605
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: She was whacking Porscha a little bit from her side

606
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: of the stage. You know, Kelly was doing her thing.

607
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: Drew Sodora. I know she had a crook in her

608
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: neck the next day from all that leaning. She was

609
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: doing the whole damn reunion. Drew Sodora was doing like this,

610
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: tearing the ass up to doing like this the whole

611
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: damn reunion. You know what I mean That she got

612
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: her point across, you know what I'm saying.

613
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: And so I don't know.

614
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: I think that there was a presence of other energy

615
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: on stage. I think Angela Oakley did a great job

616
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: on stage. Angela did great. I thought the whole guy

617
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: I've always thought that that guy coming on camera was stupid.

618
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: I hate the whole Charles cheating rumor.

619
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: I have never been rased to move past anything more

620
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: in my life. I do not care that guy's ridiculous

621
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 4: June Bug Jack Faith, all of that. I could give

622
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: a damn you know what I'm saying. But Angela had

623
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: something to say and she showed herself formidable. That's what

624
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 4: we want from the housewives, you know what I mean.

625
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 4: So while Porscha did do her damn thing and dribble

626
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: that ball like a Harlem globe trotter on that reunion stage.

627
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, spending it on the rings.

628
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 4: You know, even though she did that, she is not

629
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: like she had a real, you know, opponent on that stage.

630
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: It's easy to be Lebron James when you have a

631
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: bunch of rookies around it. And I will say this,

632
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: during the season, Porscha absolutely did not carry the season

633
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: at all. She came off as a friend of the show.

634
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: But at the reunion she definitely health court and the

635
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 3: reunion because she's been there. A reunion is a very

636
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 3: intimidating thing. And I think a lot of time, like

637
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: it seemed like the girls are like thinking, all right,

638
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: I'll say it later. I'll just do it later, and

639
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: before you know it, that's part three is gonna be

640
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: over and there's no more later and you have to

641
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: wait till next season. So it's too late to give

642
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: them advice now because they already taped it. But like

643
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 3: it seemed like everyone's is kind of waiting. And Porscha

644
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: knows production. She's been on that show for many, many years,

645
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: so she knows. I'm a like she I will say this.

646
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: When she was getting into what with Drew, and she

647
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: knew there was winning that argument what you do manipulation,

648
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: whether it was real or not, got up, gave a

649
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: little fake hug over there. That took the heat off that,

650
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: that deflected that conversation. And then the stuff with Shemiah.

651
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: They're going back and forth. Porscha is railroading right over

652
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 3: talking over her. We can't really hear nothing else bea saying,

653
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 3: and all does sound like is oh you line, Porscha's

654
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: eating you up. So yeah, she's she's she is running

655
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: circles and the reunion, the vets, the one vet is

656
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: running circles at the reunion, and the rookies ran that

657
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: thing up during the season, So I don't know.

658
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a that's a fair assessment. I do

659
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: want to get into the missing piece of this reunion

660
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: because not seeing brit and Kenya obviously was the biggest

661
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: flop in terms of us not being able to see

662
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: the completion of what happened. Britt decided not to show

663
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: up to the reunion. Kenya, I believe was not invited.

664
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: We weren't able to see the completion of what they started.

665
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: This reunion also made me miss Kenya because whether you

666
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: like Thank you Dustin, whether you like Kenya or not,

667
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: Kenya is an all star batting average of thousands when

668
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: it comes to her reunion performance. And I think that

669
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: to me, what I wanted to see not only have

670
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Kenya address what occurred, but also just see Kenya in

671
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: the mix. And what we did find out in this

672
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: reunion was that sent and Kenya have not spoken to

673
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: each other since the images were released and she text

674
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: her and that happened almost close to a year ago.

675
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: How did you guys feel about that? That Cynthia Belly

676
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: and Kenya Moore have not spoken and close to a year.

677
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Is this also the end of their friendship as you

678
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: guys know it?

679
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: No, because Cynthia has a big, forgiving heart and if

680
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: she'll always be open to having a excuse me a

681
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 4: conversation to find resolve with Kenya. That's how Cynthia gets down.

682
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 4: And Cynthia didn't even do nothing to Kenya.

683
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 5: She just didn't do it. Kenya probably wanted her to do.

684
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: And when you're friends with someone and you don't feel

685
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 4: like your friends are supporting you, anybody can't understand somebody

686
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: taking umbrage with someone else because of that.

687
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 5: You can get that, you know what I'm saying.

688
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: But I know Cynthia will be open to talk and

689
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: if Kenya softens her heart to the situation, hopefully they'll

690
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: find resolves.

691
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 5: So I definitely don't think it's the end of their

692
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: friend ship.

693
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 4: And we'll see if she's talking a portion now, Because

694
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 4: Porsche did sit on that stage and said the same

695
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 4: goddamn thing Cynthia said to Kenya's face. Porscha said it

696
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: on that stage. I was she right, I said, I

697
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 4: was even pissed with Kenya for doing it. Then she said,

698
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: but Kenya's you know, feels bad about doing what she did.

699
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: Let's see if Kenya stops talking a portion now, you

700
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean? She said the same thing so well,

701
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: so you know, Dasin, I shouldn't know this, but Kenya

702
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 4: and Porsche ran into.

703
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: Each other backstage as Shakira's constant in Atlanta, and according

704
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: to my sources, they did not speak to each other.

705
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: Oh bad.

706
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 4: Well, hey, you know, I guess Kenya's pissed off. Of

707
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: course Keny is pissed off.

708
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: And then Porscha was very close to Britt after that,

709
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 3: so I'm sure she's probably like, man, everybody.

710
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 5: That I think everybody's an ops, right.

711
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think that Kenya and Porsche's friendship was already very,

712
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 3: very fragile after Ultimate Girl's Trip anyways, Honestly, being real,

713
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't think they were ever back where they were

714
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: after that, so it really wasn't gonna take that much

715
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: to drive a deeper wedge. So I'm sad about it,

716
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: especially kind of not in the middle of them, but

717
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: in a way, you know, it's like I want them to, like,

718
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: of course, get along and be cool. I'm never gonna

719
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: you know, a team pretty you know what I'm saying,

720
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: Like I miss that, and I know for years they

721
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: like definitely had each other's back on that show, and

722
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: I hate that. I think that's where the real demise

723
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: of their friendship started. And then this kind of put

724
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 3: a period on it. I agree with you, Dustin. Cynthia

725
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 3: is always open to like kind of sit down people.

726
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: I mean, she's friends with people that were really terrible

727
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: to her before and she's gone past that. I think

728
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: with Kenya she will too, and it's gonna take her

729
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: more time because she probably feels more of the pressure.

730
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: Like right now, everyone's loving Cynthia. There's no negative, there's

731
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: no shots coming to Cynthia. She's in a good place.

732
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: She's happy her relationship or life. Kenya, she's got kicked

733
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: off the show that she was a part of her

734
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 3: main source of income, you know, hearing and then having

735
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: to sit on the sidelines and hear all the things

736
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: that and having no platform the same thing back, So

737
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: she's probably a more comfortable place like, oh, I'll give

738
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: you more time, But I honestly don't think it'll ever

739
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: be as good as it was before. I really don't. Sadly,

740
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 3: they can be cool, but I don't think it's gonna

741
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: be like what it was.

742
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: Do you guys think based on them reading on Andy

743
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: reading Kenya's tweet that there's room for her to come

744
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: back to the.

745
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: Show, one percent they would never have read verbatim that

746
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 4: tweet where Kenya literally says, I look forward to seeing

747
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: you all back on Bravos soon. They would have never

748
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: read that and allowed it to air if she wasn't

749
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 4: coming back. Kenya will be back next season, and great

750
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: because it's gonna make for a good show. Portion Shami,

751
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: You're gonna fight like cats and dogs all season. Kenya

752
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: is gonna be spraying the whole cast because she's pissed off.

753
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: It'll be a great season for us. We will be entertained,

754
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 4: so she needs. Kenya will finally have her say, which

755
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 4: is something that we just haven't seen yet, so hell yeah,

756
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 4: and I welcome it. And Kenya is a person who

757
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: see At that reunion, although Fedra grazed over an apology

758
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: to smir right, I do apologize, I don't if I

759
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 4: you know, it was all of that kind of energy

760
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: that that was a moment where I did miss Kenya

761
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: because Kenya would have gotten way deeper into that. And

762
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 4: I'm sure she'll do that next season. Since Faeder has

763
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: a guaranteed contract it, she'll be back. So it'll be

764
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: interesting to see Kenya back in the mix. Our one

765
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 4: hundred percent believe she's coming back.

766
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: Yes, reunion needed Kenya, And honestly, if it had Kenya

767
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 3: and Burt on there, all all of them, it would

768
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: have been a really really great It would have been

769
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: like it would have been sitting there saying that a

770
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: little bit that Portia didn't do was so amazing. I mean,

771
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: it was better than anybody else, but it wasn't that

772
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: big of a deal like in past reunions where there

773
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 3: was an epic one liner or moment. It was like, okay,

774
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 3: you know, all right, but it wasn't like epic where

775
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: we know the show can go. And I do think

776
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: Porsia needs the heavy hitters around her to actually even

777
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: look better, you know what I mean, It would be better.

778
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: It would have elevated everybody, I think, to have them

779
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: all on there. I think it's a huge mistake of thing.

780
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: Don't bring Kenya back, you know. And I don't like

781
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: this is the second time that she hasn't had to

782
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: be able to be there, Like after she got married

783
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: and she was fired, she didn't share the wedding. I

784
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: think that was really fucked up to like not have

785
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: her on to like this, you know, talk whatever, like

786
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 3: to just get rid of her. So I could see

787
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: her being very frustrated, like goddamn, I can never like

788
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 3: Sae my side, and then she's gotta listen. She had

789
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: to sit there while we're all running our mouths by her.

790
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: I mean, she's got our YouTube channel now, but I

791
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: could see that making you a little more salty.

792
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: One of the things that was addressed in this reunion

793
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: two was this sort of like friendly competition between Shemia

794
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: and Drew based on their singing career. They showed a

795
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: few clips of Shemia, you know, throw a little bit

796
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: shade about Drew's career. She did congratulate her on it.

797
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: The album is great, by the way, and this is listen.

798
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: This is free promo. I'm I paid to do this.

799
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm being very honest when I say this, second to

800
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: Coco Jones album Why Not More Juice of Dorris I

801
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: did it to me is the best R and B

802
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: album out today. It's it and that's front to back.

803
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I listened to it front to back. It's an amazing

804
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: R and B album, second to Coco Jones Why Not

805
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: More So? Its Claudia does anything. I was shocked, and

806
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: that's no shade to drink and dupising. But sometimes when

807
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: a reality started not that Drew as well. She's an

808
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: actress and she's been in the game for many, many years.

809
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: But sometimes when the album comes out, you're like, that

810
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: album is solid, that it's it's, it's, it's it's a

811
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: great album.

812
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: I did it to me.

813
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: It's the best song on the album, and and the

814
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: gag is Dennis Roade it.

815
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: But I like rest.

816
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: There's been this big conversation on Twitter about this Judah

817
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: liber bag that yes, Claudia, because Claudia clocked it last

818
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: week when she said I feel like Drew, so Dora

819
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: would have more stance.

820
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 2: If some of you guys thought she was a fashion girl.

821
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 1: And because you'll don't think she's a fashion girl, y'all

822
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: read her.

823
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: Shamia said that Drew is fake.

824
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: When Drew say that, and I got five on it

825
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: that she could speak five languages, Mea said that was

826
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: a lie. And then Drew brought a prop a book

827
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: and said I can speak five different love languages. And

828
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: then it was a conversation about the Judah liber bag.

829
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: SMA said was fake, Drew said it wasn't. Today Drew

830
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: Sidora posted a receipt claiming that it was real. Drew

831
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Shumia then posted on her stories double downing on that

832
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: was fake, and then Aodia Dustin not should you know this?

833
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: I know, but the Judah Leeber confirmed herself that Juseph

834
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: thier bag is.

835
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 4: Real yep, and the Instagram comments. My thing is, I

836
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. I

837
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: think of all the shit that we could be discussing

838
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: on this reunion stage, who gives I don't care about

839
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: that bullshit and all the shit that Drew has lied

840
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: about on this damn show, that's.

841
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 5: What we're gonna highlight, you know what I'm saying. It

842
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 5: just felt like we was wasting time for me, you

843
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

844
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting and dope that Judas Leeber's

845
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: account commented, you know that kind of stuff makes it

846
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 4: exciting for us the fans to watch.

847
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: But I don't give a damn about that.

848
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: That was so stupid to me that we were taking

849
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 4: up time with that, and that that's the that And

850
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 4: even if she had lied about that, of all the

851
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: things that she's already lied about on the show, I

852
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: don't think it would be something that would kind of

853
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: shift the needle for people, you know what I'm saying,

854
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: it just would be another stupid ass lie this dig

855
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: into the bottom of that. Let's get to the bottom

856
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: of some of the real shit that's going on. You

857
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Why y'all mamas don't like each other?

858
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 4: What is it? What's the real deal? You know what

859
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Let's get candy on the stage and let's

860
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: dig all the way to the bottom of this ship. Like,

861
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: let's really wake it up if we're gonna do if

862
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: we're gonna do all of that. So I thought that

863
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: Judith liber bag situation, it just y'all know me very well.

864
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 4: We friends, y'all know the kind of stuff that I

865
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: just don't have the patience for. And that was one

866
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: of those things, like I don't give a fuck about

867
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 4: that damn Martini glass purse.

868
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 5: I don't care, you know what I'm saying. That's it?

869
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 6: So sorry, Jordan, do you own a Judah liber Martini person?

870
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: Plonia, Jordan, can you get out on the fashion of

871
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: a website? Because if not, no, I don't you know,

872
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: I don't give a damn but none of that ship.

873
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's a real offc I

874
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: never heard the designer before y'all just mentioned just now,

875
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: So I have no dog in this race. I will

876
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: say this, And I like both these ladies, so I

877
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: was like, sorry, Shamiyah, but you lost this one. I

878
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: think that Shamia is in a free fall right now,

879
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: a little uncomfortable, and she's just trying to get a

880
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: win with somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like, all right,

881
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 3: let me just show you and read her down, and

882
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: it's not really coming across like she wanted to. And

883
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: I just think that the Drew and Shamia beef is

884
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: his husband silly to me from day one, I think

885
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: that Drew should not be your focus, Shamia at all.

886
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 3: I think that y'all should have actually more in common

887
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: than not, you know what I mean, Like y'all could

888
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: have really possied up on that music thing and partened

889
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: up and done some things, and I could have been

890
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: a keupe storyline to see though, you know, oh the

891
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: more experienced person music, Drew kind of taken Sami under

892
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 3: her wing and they could have formed an organic friendship

893
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: that way instead of it being this tip the tat

894
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: these little there's not enough of a history there for

895
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: it to be all this like these barbs you know

896
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 3: what I mean, these like and I mean, Barb isn't

897
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: like Spikes being gone. You got to clarify nowadays because

898
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: people go crazy, all right, Yeah, And I just was like,

899
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 3: I think Sami is just like she feels the heat

900
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: now with her story and what's happening. So she's just

901
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: trying to get an easy kill. And I think she

902
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: thought that being needs to kill with drill and it

903
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: didn't really work out.

904
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: I also think that Shamia is playing to the fans

905
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 4: a little bit when it comes to that, trying, like

906
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: you said, looking for a gotcha moment in that way.

907
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: And Shamia is so dope of a person. She literally

908
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 4: does not have to do that. All she has to

909
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: do is just be on the show and live the

910
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: life that she lives. I saw she posted on Instagram

911
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: that she took like all the little kids in her family.

912
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: Kelly's twins were with her as well. They all went

913
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 4: to Orlando for this annual trip that she does. You know,

914
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: that's that's the shit that we want. If you got

915
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: to cut somebody out along the way, do that, you

916
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But I think there's still an

917
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: opportunity there for Shamiir to really shine and get her

918
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: just do as a housewife. And this is her first

919
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: season to be fair too, you know what I mean,

920
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: as a full time housewife. So I think that next

921
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: season she'll be a little bit more comfortable and on

922
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: camera and more comfortable knowing that she's getting critiqued and

923
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: picked apart by the audience in a way that's new

924
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 4: for her.

925
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 5: I think that we'll get it.

926
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: I hope we'll get a different performance because I still

927
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 4: think all the pieces are there for her to make

928
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: sense as a great housewife on this show.

929
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: So and don't you think like maybe like some of

930
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: the girls, and I think for me, is not the

931
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: only one that's doing this or has done this. Like

932
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: when you're first there on the show, you're kind of

933
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 3: finding your way and you're not, and you're a mix

934
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: between who you are and also changing and catering your

935
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: behavior a little bit based on what social media is

936
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: saying or what you know. You have a lot of

937
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: people here and you're not a lot of times like

938
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: that takes away from your authenticity. And that's what makes

939
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: fans sound like you, because they're like, wait, but if

940
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: you just stand on business, whether you right or wrong,

941
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 3: and just like I'm doing it the way I think

942
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: you get you look more consistent and more solid, so

943
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: on that kind of flip flop that kind of goes

944
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: with the win or just changes up like or these

945
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: little be square We're like, wait, what's the what's the

946
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: history of that right there? Is that just for a

947
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: scene or do you really have deep feelings against that person?

948
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: And breaks me to this question that one of the

949
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: rain Drops shout out to share it in on Twitter,

950
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: post this question, and I wanted to bring.

951
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: It to you guys.

952
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: I've been seeing a lot of a lot of this

953
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: for the past couple of weeks, and I felt that

954
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: today was the time to bring it up based on

955
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: everything that happened this morning. Share In posts a question

956
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: on Twitter about should the downfall of Samia be studied

957
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: because she pointed out that Samiyah was the fan favorite

958
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: in the beginning of this season and then towards it

959
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: in she feels like the fans have turned on her.

960
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: Is that something you guys have seen and if so,

961
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: do you think Shamia started off this season on a

962
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: high and based on what we saw in the later

963
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: episodes that she did not live up to the hype.

964
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 5: Let's speak. Never mind Claudia. Ladies first, you go first,

965
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 5: and then go ahead, Claudia.

966
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I think that she came out the gate.

967
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: People like were like, wow, she's like remember we were

968
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: saying that she was like the star of the show

969
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: and the show was gonna be centered around her. We

970
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: were raving about our house or a lifestyle or husband

971
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: or wealth. We were like, damn. Even Cynthia was like,

972
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: oh my God, like, look at this place. Is it

973
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: like it was this Shamiah Shamia Shamia Shmia. To her detriment,

974
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 3: sometimes maybe we set the bar high or the bar

975
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: was set high. And then throughout the episodes, I think

976
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: some mistakes. I think one of her main mistakes was

977
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: kind of coming for Drew when we didn't really see

978
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 3: a reason for that, right, and then the kind of

979
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: being porstious accomplice with that meeting with Dennis. That was

980
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: another way like.

981
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 2: Uh, I think not to cut you off.

982
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: I think that was the beginning of people questioning a

983
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: little bit.

984
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: I think I think she Miia having that meeting with

985
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: Ralph definitely, Oh.

986
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: Ralph, I'm sorry, Ralph.

987
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: He said, Then I know, I don't know I got

988
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: your sister.

989
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: I definitely think that was sort of the eye the

990
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: side eye that people saw.

991
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: We'll go ahead, and then she could never really recover.

992
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: Then it was like another mistake, and you know, another

993
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: thing after the next, and you know, it's funny how

994
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: some of the ones that were so strong in the

995
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: beginning ended up being not as like in the end,

996
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 3: and then some that were under the radar, like you know, Angela,

997
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: we didn't really we weren't really tripping on her like

998
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: that in the beginning, and then look how she's been

999
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 3: like since. I think she's been offer running since episode

1000
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: three four, like just NonStop with basically like maybe one

1001
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: mistake towards the end. Right, that's pretty much all I

1002
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: can really think of. So, yeah, and the sixteen episodes,

1003
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: that's a long season. Things had turned you know, you

1004
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: write people the wrong way. But yeah, she she had

1005
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: a couple of things and so and it's also we're

1006
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: also missing major pieces of the story. Kenya wasn't there

1007
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: to finish, and neither was Brent, so a lot of

1008
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: things were kind of just rigged together kind of bubblegum,

1009
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: and we're not getting the complete like there's still so

1010
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: we're allowed to forge your own opinions and fill in

1011
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: the blank that may or may not be fair of Samiah.

1012
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

1013
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 5: Let's let's let's let's call it what it is. Right.

1014
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: First of all, much love to share it and shout

1015
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 4: out to all the rain drops. Right, but there has

1016
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 4: been no downfall of Shemiah. Okay, watch the damn show

1017
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: and just say damn. I like Shemia in the beginning,

1018
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 4: but I don't agree with what she did in this episode.

1019
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: There's no downfall of Shemiah that needs to be studied.

1020
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 4: We could stop with the dramatic shit right. Second of all,

1021
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: we haven't seen Shemiah in the full context of her personality.

1022
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 4: I think that as a viewing audience, we made assumptions

1023
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 4: about her because of her proximity to Porsche, her assumed

1024
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 4: proximity to Porsche.

1025
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 5: Right.

1026
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: If this girl, this woman is coming on the show

1027
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: saying that she's Portioned's best, we assume that they have

1028
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: similar interests. They're both you know, very forward, you know,

1029
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 4: type A personalities whatever, like, that's what we assume. Well,

1030
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: when we got to know Smia this season, we find

1031
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: out she's not those things. She's a preacher's kid, you know.

1032
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. She comes from a family that had

1033
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: means and was well off. She had a brand new

1034
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: bread convertible when she was sixteen, you know what I mean.

1035
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: So her.

1036
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 5: The access that she chooses.

1037
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: To grind, you know what I'm saying, are not those

1038
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: that we might choose. And so her taking issue with

1039
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: her passing that story about Drew saying that she was

1040
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 4: gonna pay for Pj's college, you know what I'm saying,

1041
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: and that becoming a thing, or her saying that bridge

1042
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: says something about her daughter, and that becoming a thing.

1043
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 4: These are things that seem that are made to appear

1044
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 4: larger than they actually are sometimes and it just reflects

1045
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 4: a lack of certain life experiences and SHEMI is just

1046
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 4: not the person that we thought that she was. Not

1047
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 4: in a bad way, it's just down that we're getting

1048
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: to know her. At least for me, I'm like, Oh,

1049
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 4: she's different than what I thought she was, you know.

1050
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: And she's not as much of an aggressive personality or

1051
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 4: somebody who can really get into paint like that, right

1052
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 4: because she doesn't come from that sort of situation. She's

1053
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 4: a she's been a kind of sheltered a little bit

1054
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 4: almost when she was growing up. Yeah, she outside in Atlanta,

1055
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 4: but she grew up there and she knows a lot

1056
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: of the right people and shit. So I think we

1057
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: just made some assumptions that we're finding out are not true.

1058
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 4: And for some of the viewers, they're translating that to

1059
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 4: we don't like Shamiah no more, you know what I'm saying.

1060
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 4: But I think we're just getting to know who she

1061
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: really is, and that's just what it is.

1062
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: See y'all think she'll be a her housewife and have

1063
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: a better chance making her own mark. I think this

1064
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: break up with Porsche, although it's sad because you know

1065
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: they were good friends. They were friends for a long time, right,

1066
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 3: whether best friends or not. But once she gets up

1067
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: from under the Porscha's shadow and the Porsche narrative and

1068
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: she could stand on her own, maybe we'll get a

1069
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 3: clearer idea of her outside of a friendship like I

1070
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: would hate to just for the rest of my life.

1071
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm always tied to a friend I hang with, Like,

1072
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: you know, stand on your own, what's your storyline? Not

1073
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: like doing any of the work or the carrying of

1074
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 3: bones for Portsche or any of that. And if she's

1075
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: back for next season. I think that would be better

1076
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: for her and probably for Porsche. Cut the type. It's

1077
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: if you're not gonna be real friends and don't even

1078
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: take this thing because.

1079
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a problem.

1080
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: I think the problem to what you're saying, Claudia, and

1081
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you. I think the problem is this

1082
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: no one is having real conversations on camera because they're

1083
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: having off camera, and that will be the destruction of

1084
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: what is now an amazing reboot of this show. My

1085
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: advice to all of those girls is stop having this

1086
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: off camera conversation. It's it's it's going to be the

1087
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: detriment of you being on the show and the detriment

1088
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: of the show.

1089
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 2: I agree with everything Claudia said.

1090
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: I think what I would love to hear it's a

1091
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 1: real conversation the way Nimi and Cynthia had it. When

1092
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: Cynthia said, people think I'm weak because of your personality

1093
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: as related to you calling my husband a bitch. That

1094
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: affected me, That offended me. I feel like I have

1095
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: no voice in our friendship. These are things that are relatable.

1096
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: Every friend group, and we sevex weeks ago, every single

1097
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: friend group has the outspoken person, the leader of the

1098
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: Queen Bee whatever they want to give them, And I

1099
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: would love to hear that conversation happened between those two.

1100
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: I think Shemiah is a great housewife. I think Shemiah

1101
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: rookie season should be studied in the sense of you

1102
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: have to do what feels natural for you. Because when

1103
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: you think about a Candy Burris, the reason why Candy

1104
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: Burris had a long career on the show is because

1105
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: she wasn't known to be the best reader or the

1106
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: best shade assassin, but she was known to just always

1107
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: be herself in every situation and the audience enjoy that.

1108
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: And my advice to this cast is and I think

1109
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: Kelly Kelly, who I I'm obsessed with Kelly. I think

1110
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: Kelly learned her lesson by defending Brent every chance she got. Yes,

1111
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: great friend, but look what I got you in the end,

1112
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And I think these

1113
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: alligances ruined shows, right and I and and that's what's

1114
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: going to have to be And it's the reason why

1115
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: for me the future of the next season when it

1116
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: comes to this current cast, who look, I think they

1117
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: all should come back. As my opinion, I want them

1118
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: I want them all to come back next season, right.

1119
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: And and of course Kenya summer more.

1120
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: But listen, I want to see should me in port

1121
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: to talk. I want to see me a portion of

1122
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: favor to talk. I want to see portion and Fas talk.

1123
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: I want to see Kenya and Cynthia talk. I think

1124
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: what we're being robbed of is these women having an

1125
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: amazing social media beef. Because let's be clear, I will

1126
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: type all day based on what happened this moment.

1127
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: But button this morning Porscha pushed the mother for she said, yeah,

1128
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: this morning, this was me.

1129
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: In our group chat.

1130
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: Right, but imagine imagine if all of this happened on

1131
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: the show.

1132
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: So that that that's that's my thing to that one thing.

1133
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: I do want to get up before because Claudia, Claudia

1134
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: is looking at.

1135
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: Is we have it for a short time, but.

1136
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: Get me while you can, Dustin, I know this is

1137
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: the vein of your existence when it comes to the show.

1138
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: But obviously June Bug.

1139
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: Was the star of the reunion as well, and Angela

1140
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: who who Still I don't care what y'll say about

1141
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: angel Oakley. Angela still passed the crown for the MVP

1142
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: of the season. Rookie of the Year. She had receipts

1143
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: about Phaedrus's brother allegedly being friends with this guy going

1144
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: to school with them. Phaedra got Porscha's phone and contacted

1145
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: the brother and then he said, I know this person

1146
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: is the whole thing. Unfortunately fell flat for me. But

1147
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: Dustin is your favorite topic of the evening, so I

1148
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: would love to get your opinion on Phaedri calling her

1149
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: brother the brother Denying it, Angela doubled downing on it.

1150
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: Angy Cohen said her contract insecure, she didn't need to

1151
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: do this.

1152
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: What do you think.

1153
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 4: I think that it would be very hard for me

1154
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: to have a serious conversation with Faeder about anything with

1155
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 4: that shit on it head at the reunion, So it

1156
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 4: would have been hard for me to take her serious

1157
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: with them things clinging and clacking off the side and shit,

1158
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: it was all distracting.

1159
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 5: It was difficult for me.

1160
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 4: On top of that, my brother would have said the

1161
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 4: same damn things, just like I would have said the

1162
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 4: same thing if he called me with some You know

1163
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I don't understand what that was

1164
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 4: supposed to prove, nor do I care, Angela. If Charles

1165
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 4: is she knowing you, and you want to stay good

1166
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: for y'all because y'all obviously got your thing going together.

1167
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: If Fader did it, fine, that ain't the first lie

1168
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 4: she told. Y'all don't care that she lies and start shit.

1169
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: So here we are. I'm just ready to move on.

1170
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about that boy, that bug,

1171
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,959
Speaker 4: that restaurant, that woman. I don't want to hear about

1172
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: none of it no more. I'm ready to move on. Okay.

1173
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 4: So that's how I feel about it. You know, now

1174
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 4: y'all can tell me that's where I'm at with it.

1175
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: First of all, petty moment alert, I too could not

1176
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 3: take for sure, I mean not fortunate phator seriously with

1177
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 3: that thing. And do you remember that movie There was

1178
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: a dragon in a movie called The Never Ending Story. Yes,

1179
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: it looked like like the thing. Imagine arguing with that

1180
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: on the reunion. Just that's the jewelry, the ears of

1181
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: the Jewish.

1182
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: And then it was getting stuck, like when she would

1183
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: be talking and gesturing and ship, it would get stuck.

1184
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: One half of the thing would be like right here.

1185
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: It was just a lot. It was difficult, you know

1186
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, to focus. I know, I would be like,

1187
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 4: you gonna have to take that off. You got to

1188
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 4: take that thing off, whatever that is, whatever you mean.

1189
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: I can't and just.

1190
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: Take the movie the never ending story. It's the never

1191
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: ending liar. So the thing is with this story, it

1192
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 3: does sound fishy, and I love Angela and I hate

1193
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: to go against Angela and be pro team Pager, So I'm.

1194
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 2: Not going to do that.

1195
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: But and y'all give me be mad, be mad the comments,

1196
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: get now, the never.

1197
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: To I don't do that, but I do it anyway,

1198
01:03:59,120 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: get to me.

1199
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: I'm very honest. I stand in my truth.

1200
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 5: Yea.

1201
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: So the thing is that it's like the boy that

1202
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: cry wolf right, because she's lied so many times. All

1203
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 3: my babies do next week? Nos do it eight months? Oh, Paul,

1204
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 3: I had nothing to do with the angel saying thing

1205
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 3: all the lies. So maybe this time she is telling

1206
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 3: the truth. It's hard to believe her, right, And because

1207
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 3: Angela has told the truth so much that I think

1208
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 3: that's kind of why we're a little bit willing to

1209
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: be like, Nah, maybe she might have maybe a little

1210
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: collaborated or a little bit of crafting going on, But

1211
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 3: it's like I like to look at patterns and you

1212
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 3: know your past behavior. I mean, can you change yes?

1213
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: But ay, she might be telling you, but I ain't

1214
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 3: gonna lie. My petty side is fun to just be like, nah,

1215
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: we don't believe you because she's lied so much. She's

1216
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: lied so much, and then unfortunately, I don't know what

1217
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: it is about this network, but for some reason, they

1218
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: don't all the way holds her ever to a standard

1219
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 3: of like, they don't really ever hold her accountable. She

1220
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: gets away with so much, and I think that's what's

1221
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 3: frustrating to some of us. I think it'd be a

1222
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: lot easier to rock with some of the things that

1223
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: Padra says and like her more if just give us

1224
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 3: once or twice where she actually gets held accountable. She

1225
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: came on the show gunning hard for angel Oh Shaney

1226
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 3: towards the marriage, so it's like, we're like, girl, but

1227
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: you just got here, Like why are you fussing with

1228
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: this lady? Like we like her now, okay, we like her,

1229
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: And it's just I think that's I think that's what

1230
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: my issue is. And I'm gonna go and admit to

1231
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 3: my issue with her. So many times it's like you

1232
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 3: seen Donald Trump get away with so much then he

1233
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: might do one thing where it's like kind of eye

1234
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 3: or accimately like I'm good fuck because you're gonna lie

1235
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 3: for for six months or six years or whatever. So

1236
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 3: it's kind of like hard to come around to the

1237
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: idea that you could possibly be telling the truth. Now

1238
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: it does sound Fakegan God, something sound Take the june

1239
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: bug when they saidjum bug, I'm like, oh, you got

1240
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: to say something like Tony or Jason or David just

1241
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 3: any june bug is like.

1242
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: Something bad.

1243
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 4: Because this is I need to relax after seeing this

1244
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 4: stupid ass ship. It was just dumb, right, Claudia, the

1245
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 4: jud ship just stupid.

1246
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: And then the Mark the thing with I, I really

1247
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 3: don't know because it's hard for me. It's I'm programmed. Now,

1248
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 3: it's hard for me to believe that Phagier would be

1249
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: telling the truth. She doesn't tell the truth, just like

1250
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 3: her silence didn't tell the truth. And said that was

1251
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 3: a good look. And that's all I got to say

1252
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 3: about that. Be mad if you want to. I don't care.

1253
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm used to people being mad at me.

1254
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: Someone make that side by side though, when you get

1255
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 3: a chance.

1256
01:06:52,120 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, what's that dragon's names?

1257
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: Anybody knows the chat.

1258
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: The Dragon moved off from the Dragon Baby.

1259
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: Giraffic parking gull child, Yeah, buddy. So to wrap things up,

1260
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: the the Reunion did in on Shamia and Porsche as

1261
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: they are about to get into it about their mothers.

1262
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: So we will see what happens next week. Based on

1263
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: the poll that I had done on Twitter Claudia and

1264
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: Dustin about whose side are people are when it comes

1265
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: to Shamia and Porsche.

1266
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,959
Speaker 2: The results are in over six hundred and fifty people voted.

1267
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 5: Relatively close. You know what I'm saying. People are split.

1268
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 4: They signed with Porsche after them them damning Instagram slide

1269
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: she put out this morning for people are split.

1270
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: And I think and I don't think Shmida's doing herself

1271
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 3: any favors. She couldn't. She couldn't get it out. She

1272
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 3: could not get it out. We could not even like

1273
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,479
Speaker 3: we were like we it was. I hope she comes

1274
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 3: with Mara on part three. If not, she's just gonna

1275
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 3: get ran over, you know what I mean. I feel

1276
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 3: that she's frustrated, like she's like frush, you know, when

1277
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 3: you like can't get something tonight like.

1278
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 4: Hm, Well, she said to Claudia remember when she went

1279
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 4: when they went on break, Claudia and Carlos. When they

1280
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: went on break and she went into Kelly's dressing room.

1281
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 4: The first thing she said when she went in there

1282
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 4: on that scene was everybody, I'm trying to be nice,

1283
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 4: and everybody's chiming in. There's a lot of stuff I

1284
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 4: want to chime in on too. Toma said that in

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Speaker 4: Kelly's dressing room, so that there was some things I

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Speaker 4: guess there were some things rather that she wasn't saying

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Speaker 4: saying that she wanted to say on the stage. Now,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why, because if I were to hit

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Speaker 4: that stage.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But interrupt each other a reunion speak now for one

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Speaker 1: hundred piece. Claudia's right, you think I'm gonna get it

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Speaker 1: later and you forget about it. You don't get to it.

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Speaker 2: Next thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, the regumits up with so say when you

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Speaker 1: mean it. But Part three it's airing next week. Thank

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Speaker 1: you rain Drops for a stepic in early, See you

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Speaker 1: next Monday. Reality with the King is executive produced by

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Speaker 1: me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Mimetz and a partnership.

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Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.

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Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at

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Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore