Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, hi guys, hi girls, would you like to come
Speaker 2: in with what you just came in with? No, No,
Speaker 2: We're going to take a minute to process a process
Speaker 2: and everyone's safe and fine. Okay, all right, anything, Well,
Speaker 2: I have an update.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know you're there.
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to. I don't ever peer
Speaker 2: pressure you, but I feel like you have to because
Speaker 2: the amount of questions I'm getting and it's not even
Speaker 2: me right, okay, well, like inquiring minds, I'd like to know. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: so I figured out why my scalp was a ching.
Speaker 3: I want to know first of all, before you say it.
Speaker 3: Did a lot of people guess this zero? Wow, that's
Speaker 3: brot one DM. Did I get that one? Which is
Speaker 3: crazy and people are invested?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, So let's roll the tape back. So I
Speaker 2: went to started itching on December sixteenth, seventeenth is what
Speaker 2: I could trace it back to. It was because it
Speaker 2: was afore Allen's parents came in town for Christmas, and
Speaker 2: then I remember when they were here, I was like, God,
Speaker 2: I can't sap, scratching my head. So then I tracked
Speaker 2: back a little more okay. Uh Like, then I went
Speaker 2: to my dermatologist. She's like, I see nothing on your scalp.
Speaker 2: Your scalp as completely clear, no dan driff no, nothing
Speaker 2: like You're like, no lice nothing. I'm like, okay, don't
Speaker 2: have that. So then she's like, it could be you know,
Speaker 2: then I thought was scabies. Then we thought it was
Speaker 2: like you thought it was a lot of things. I
Speaker 2: thought it was a lot of things, a lot of dying.
Speaker 2: I need to google. Connected her with Nate and the text,
Speaker 2: and I said, for what it's worth, I need you
Speaker 2: to not google and Nate. I need her in as
Speaker 2: quickly as she can get in. Well, I'm pretty convinced.
Speaker 2: I thought I had MS too, which I didn't know.
Speaker 2: If you wanted to share that, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: like completely bust you, but you did.
Speaker 3: She thought she had MS from the itchy scalpers all
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Have so many things like it's like my eyes are blurry.
Speaker 2: So then I started putting all the symptoms together, and
Speaker 2: all of them sure lead me to really bad things,
Speaker 2: which freaked me out. There's a positive to all of this.
Speaker 2: I just want to say there's a I'm really glad
Speaker 2: I went down this train because I didn't, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have realized a few of mothers. She said, I'm going
Speaker 2: happening and I'll tell you which I had no idea about,
Speaker 2: which Nate thinks it's because of the baby. But anyways, okay,
Speaker 2: so itching, itching, itching, and then I go and to
Speaker 2: see Nate and your extensions out. I mean, hello, you
Speaker 2: switch shampoos, I mean everything, So trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what it was right, so, but mainly like the scalp
Speaker 2: was driving me nuts, so got on a bunch of supplements,
Speaker 2: YadA YadA. So then I have a birthday party for
Speaker 2: Jolie where it was her eighth birthday party, and they
Speaker 2: it's like this little mobile fairy thing and they come
Speaker 2: over and they do their hair, they do their makeup,
Speaker 2: and you missed it. It was really cute. I know,
Speaker 2: I saw it was cute. Love was sick, right, and
Speaker 2: then she gave it to the baby. Oh bummer. Sleep
Speaker 2: Lesson Nashville is the name of the game. That's the worst. Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean she I'm talking about But anyways, so you know,
Speaker 2: it's such a cute party. It was. The girls looked adorable,
Speaker 2: but the very end of the party, the lady goes,
Speaker 2: I have some bad news, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: like what's Like, what's wrong. She's like a few of
Speaker 2: the girls had lice, and I was like, oh, that's disgusting.
Speaker 2: I was like that is so gross. I was like
Speaker 2: ew who, like just kind of like a little judge.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pin this for a second.
Speaker 2: And so I was like gross, Like who, I love
Speaker 2: your honesty because I was like, I know how you reacted,
Speaker 2: but I needed it's gross. Okay.
Speaker 3: Can we go back to a few days before that?
Speaker 3: So you were judging, okay, I judging you.
Speaker 2: It's it's gross. Life is gross.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not judging our child. I'm just saying like
Speaker 2: it's gross. I mean like, it's disgusting.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, gross, who and so because life
Speaker 2: is gross? And so she's like and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to name the other kids, but she's like she said
Speaker 2: a few kids and then like couldn't spit it out,
Speaker 2: and I'm like who. She's like Jollie and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I got it, okay. And so I like go upstairs, Uh,
Speaker 2: this is like after the party or whatever, and I'm like, baby, girl,
Speaker 2: have you know? And she's been itching but not crazy,
Speaker 2: you know, So I said to her, you know what's
Speaker 2: let me can I just look in your hair really fast?
Speaker 2: And then I saw some and I was like, like
Speaker 2: out of my skin crawling. The other mom's kid that
Speaker 2: had it too, we made an appointment to go together
Speaker 2: and uh, I wasn't actually going to bring jas, but
Speaker 2: I did because right before we left, I was like, baby,
Speaker 2: let me just check your hair really fast. And I
Speaker 2: looked and there was I saw one in there and
Speaker 2: I was like, get in the car immediately, please please
Speaker 2: put on this pod? Can pass? Please kindly get.
Speaker 1: In the car.
Speaker 2: I would like to hear. And I was like, and go.
Speaker 2: But I checked my hair. I was like, Alan, can
Speaker 2: you look through my hair? He's like, I don't see anything.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, this is just so strange. So when
Speaker 2: I go there, I'm like, well, I'm obviously going to
Speaker 2: get checked because I've been having crazy scalp itching. So
Speaker 2: lo and behold I head lice. That is why my
Speaker 2: sculf was it ching. So so did Jay, so did Jolie.
Speaker 2: But here's here's the like deep dive that I'm really
Speaker 2: happy with. Through all of this doing blood work and everything.
Speaker 2: Because I sat down with Nate. He was like, you
Speaker 2: are so hormonally messed up. He's like, your thyroid is awful.
Speaker 2: He's like, which is you're gonna probably if you don't
Speaker 2: get this, Like you'll start gaining weight because it's like
Speaker 2: the way your thyroid is working. He's like, it's it's
Speaker 2: the wrong way. He's like, so you'll start to gain weight.
Speaker 2: Your estrogen, your testosterone obviously, like I talked about last episode,
Speaker 2: is really low. And he goes and also he's like,
Speaker 2: you're you have an you're allergic to soy. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. I was like, I had at a
Speaker 2: mommy the other night and I remember scratching, oh wow randomly.
Speaker 2: Now I have a soy a reaction allergy. Wow. So
Speaker 2: I cannot eat soy anymore, which is also pretty common postpartum.
Speaker 2: Really interesting, so soy and estrogen are linked. Ish, oh whoa,
Speaker 2: and so I I also I did the food sensitivity.
Speaker 2: I've been in the deep deep Yeah, and soy comes
Speaker 2: up for me too, And that sucks because we love
Speaker 2: like sushi, Asian anything. Yeah, we can slay sushi. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I don't like soy sauce. Oh, I do. But
Speaker 2: the problem is is soy is in everything that I eat.
Speaker 2: And also the other thing too that I'm not allowed
Speaker 2: to eat anymore is munk fruit, which is in all
Speaker 2: my protein bars, which is in oh it's on my
Speaker 2: severe like I can never have it again. It's in
Speaker 2: all of my protein powders.
Speaker 3: That's so random, and which is protein.
Speaker 2: Which causes the gut, the leaky gut, all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: So now I've like deep dove and all that, and
Speaker 2: then like my cortisols are like super off. And he's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how You're not like sleeping in a
Speaker 2: bed right now all day. He's like, you are, just
Speaker 2: like it's so bad. So I'm like, I'm so grateful
Speaker 2: that I went down this to like find this out.
Speaker 2: But the itching was the lice disgusting.
Speaker 3: It's just so crazy. So rewind too, But how does
Speaker 3: the dermatologists find it?
Speaker 2: Well, so I call her. She's like what what? She's like,
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything. I'm like, well they were there.
Speaker 3: Rewind of four or five days before that, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously Emmy had been itching also. We talked about that
Speaker 3: on here. I was like, if you figure it out. Well,
Speaker 3: I got a call when we were working out from
Speaker 3: the nurse. This was days before it happened to her,
Speaker 3: and they were like, you need to come get Ramsey.
Speaker 3: She has lice. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Emmy does have lice, like I've been looking, that's it.
Speaker 3: So we go. So that's where I go back to
Speaker 3: you were judging.
Speaker 2: I'm not judging. I'm judging the lights.
Speaker 3: And it's disgusting.
Speaker 2: Is there a pr rep for life anyway?
Speaker 3: And no one wants to talk about it because everyone
Speaker 3: has it, but no one else to talk about it
Speaker 3: because it's gross. But anyway, so I took Ramsey.
Speaker 2: Either of you dealt with this before, because I know.
Speaker 3: Amy had to deal Emmy. I got a call from
Speaker 3: the nurse for Emmy when she was probably in second
Speaker 3: or third grade, and I really freaked out then, like
Speaker 3: I literally was disgusting. But they told me neither. But
Speaker 3: they told me then how common it is and people
Speaker 3: just don't talk about it, you know. So so I
Speaker 3: Ramsey get her or whatever, and then we do this
Speaker 3: party and I'm like, dear lord, she's getting rechecked today
Speaker 3: because I'm like, she was around.
Speaker 2: Everyone and newslash. So we texted all the moms and
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, just f yi, Joly had lice
Speaker 2: and a few other girls headlights. You should maybe get
Speaker 2: your dar checked. Everyone but two head lice that were
Speaker 2: at the party.
Speaker 3: And it's probably Ramsey was probably one of them. But
Speaker 3: she had already had it.
Speaker 2: So I would like to thank you Jesus for the
Speaker 2: congestion they kept me home from the party. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: they've already had it though, which is as wild. It's
Speaker 2: like they didn't get it from the party. Well I know,
Speaker 2: but right, wouldn't someone anyway? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but side note to all that, and he
Speaker 3: didn't have it, so I still haven't figured her out.
Speaker 2: So you should do a food sensitive sensitivity test for her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's because it's it's very wild. Yeah, it does, and
Speaker 2: it ruins like postpartum were so susceptible because our immune
Speaker 2: is our immunity is down, our thyroids are taxed, our
Speaker 2: adrenal glands are taxed. Oh that's what you said. He's like, you,
Speaker 2: your adrenal glands are just like awful. So I'm on
Speaker 2: like fifty million different supplements. But he's like, it's only
Speaker 2: temporary for the eight next, like eight weeks until you
Speaker 2: get everything back up. Yes, I had to order.
Speaker 3: Allt it all started coming in today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like fifteen to twenty supplements. But he's like,
Speaker 2: it's only for guys. He's changing my life. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: I have energy. I cannot wait for all of those
Speaker 2: things to start happening. It's happened, Like it's good. He's incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I mean it's just one of those things where
Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad I went down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. It was just the life for the scratching
Speaker 2: and hopefully everything else can kind of fall into place.
Speaker 3: My favorite was the text from the other person that
Speaker 3: you were there with, because I was like, I just
Speaker 3: need to know if Jana has it, like she has
Speaker 3: to have it, and then the other person was like,
Speaker 3: she's crying, she's so happy.
Speaker 2: I was really I was crying, Oh you're dying. I
Speaker 2: was like, thank you so much. So it was a
Speaker 2: funny thing because it was it was driving me mad.
Speaker 3: And it's easily taken care of. Yes, So it's.
Speaker 2: I'm just blown away that anyone else saw it before
Speaker 2: this well, because I said I got checked and it
Speaker 2: wasn't there, so then that's why I also, no one said.
Speaker 3: But I mean I have checked Ramsey like two or
Speaker 3: three times. I was like, she does not have it.
Speaker 3: Nurse calls, and then as soon as they say she
Speaker 3: has lights, I look at her head. I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: there they are like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I got to be honest, I don't even think I
Speaker 2: know what I'm looking for.
Speaker 3: Well, having said that, Ramsey didn't have it very long,
Speaker 3: but just.
Speaker 2: Google it and look, I could not google anyway.
Speaker 3: I actually it's like, you know you can tell.
Speaker 2: But I will say, but that has been solved, mystery solved,
Speaker 2: and I will report back on all the supplements. But
Speaker 2: I will say when I was going through my severe
Speaker 2: list and then things that I shouldn't have, I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to eat because I eat it's
Speaker 2: they're all on there.
Speaker 3: I didn't do the food one sab same and.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite to have almonds, avocado, eggs, eggs. I
Speaker 2: have all those butt eggs I get to eat and
Speaker 2: I don't eat meat. So I'm like, well, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: been something. So anyways, I'm over. We're back on that.
Speaker 2: But the scratching go get your head jacked. My dermatologist
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna either if I don't see anything,
Speaker 2: I'm going to have people go to an actual life place.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's best.
Speaker 3: Well because of that comb. Yeah, I really think that
Speaker 3: that's it.
Speaker 2: I wish you guys could see Catherine's hands because it
Speaker 2: looks like the comb is great. It's the key to
Speaker 2: really figuring that all the time. Now on ONOBA, this
Speaker 2: season is called life Lights Baby.
Speaker 3: And hey, there are plenty moms out there that are like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel better because my kids had it too.
Speaker 2: Exactly. All right, We're going to take a quick little
Speaker 2: lice break, and then we're going to get Adam on,
Speaker 2: who is an American country singer. He's got a song
Speaker 2: out called Ain't She. We're going to talk about touring,
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about soon to be dad life,
Speaker 2: and uh, we'll get a month, but let's first take
Speaker 2: a break.
Speaker 4: What's up y'all? Hi?
Speaker 3: Adam?
Speaker 2: Wait, this is obviously your wife in the famous music video.
Speaker 1: Well if she's in it, but that also might be
Speaker 1: Cassie Randolph because Colton and Cassie were in that video.
Speaker 2: Oh that's that, so maybe well not to I love Cassie.
Speaker 2: I did a movie with Cassie. But now I'm just
Speaker 2: that just registered in my brain.
Speaker 4: Sorry, no, it's funny you say that.
Speaker 1: I actually texted Colton probably I don't know, three months
Speaker 1: ago and I was like, hey, man, what if we
Speaker 1: add one scene to this video and at the end,
Speaker 1: when you're walking out of the grocery store, you just
Speaker 1: walk out and you see you get in the car
Speaker 1: with Jordan or something. We just had one scene to
Speaker 1: the video because it didn't age well at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well.
Speaker 2: Age, Well neither does my book The Good Fight. So
Speaker 2: whatever with my ex husband, so you know his musical influences,
Speaker 2: John Mayer, and there was a few listed.
Speaker 3: What do you see?
Speaker 2: Yeah, your jobs. That's great, Adam. Than to bring that up,
Speaker 2: HI show that is wind down. How are you welcome
Speaker 2: to the story house, Adam. We're glad to have you, Adam.
Speaker 2: How long? How long were you grinding in Nashville?
Speaker 4: Still currently grinding in Nashville?
Speaker 2: If you tell me one year, I'm going to just
Speaker 2: get really no, not at all.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been here for about ten years now,
Speaker 1: so everybody A common question and interviews is when was
Speaker 1: the moment that you made it or when did you
Speaker 1: know you made it? And my answer is always like
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on it.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, it was like a constant,
Speaker 4: you know, it got a little bit better all the time.
Speaker 4: It's still doing it.
Speaker 1: It's just been a constant, steady getting a little bit
Speaker 1: better every year. So there hasn't been like a just
Speaker 1: one thing that made it. It's just been kind of
Speaker 1: slowly grounded the whole time.
Speaker 2: You know what, There is something so to that, because
Speaker 2: it's never at least when I was doing country radio
Speaker 2: or country music, you just never felt safe. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like why you want to you know, was obviously
Speaker 2: top three on the charts. Got the Boy was top three,
Speaker 2: but it's like, but then the next one would not
Speaker 2: do great. It would be like twenties thirties, and you're
Speaker 2: like not safe, it's over, everything's over. And then it's
Speaker 2: just you don't ever really get comfortable until you're that
Speaker 2: one percent. I guess that that's no matter what you
Speaker 2: put out, there is a number one, you know, and
Speaker 2: that's that's the hard piece because it's like you can
Speaker 2: never really get comfortable, which I think is a good thing,
Speaker 2: but also that's the struggle and the balance with doing
Speaker 2: what you love right. We would like to feel comfortable
Speaker 2: in my house, just I mean, I think I think
Speaker 2: everyone would love to be comfortable. But then it's like,
Speaker 2: then what are you striving for if you when you
Speaker 2: get comfortable? And I think that's the piece that I
Speaker 2: always remind myself of. It's like, all right, so when
Speaker 2: you have everything you want, you're always gonna want something
Speaker 2: more than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's been the biggest thing for me
Speaker 1: is just first of all, I mean this is I
Speaker 1: think we had songs on the radio about the same
Speaker 1: time because I had Famous That was twenty nineteen going
Speaker 1: into twenty I think I know we're on Serious XM
Speaker 1: at the same time at least I remember that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: And since then, so many people have been added and
Speaker 1: TikTok's been added, and there's just so much, so much music,
Speaker 1: so many faces on Instagram. It's really hard to you know,
Speaker 1: if you try to keep up with everybody, you're kind
Speaker 1: of in trouble. And so for me, I've just kind
Speaker 1: of leaned in on just trying to be Adam Doleiak,
Speaker 1: just trying to sound like Adam doliak and not chasing.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like everybody's trying to sound like
Speaker 1: Morgan Wallin right now. I feel like everybody just kind
Speaker 1: of chases the next thing. And I think I realized
Speaker 1: a little while ago, like I.
Speaker 4: Love what I do.
Speaker 1: I'm really lucky to get to do what I do
Speaker 1: and only that, Like I make music and play music
Speaker 1: for a living and can make a good living and
Speaker 1: support my family, which is really cool. And when I started,
Speaker 1: that was the dream, right Like if I if I
Speaker 1: just told myself I was right where I am right now,
Speaker 1: when I started, i'd been like, sweet, that's great. So
Speaker 1: just leaning into that, and you're right, it's always it's
Speaker 1: hard to get comfy. And I agree with you, like
Speaker 1: we would love to feel completely comfort like we were
Speaker 1: in the one percent of Morgan Wallen or something, but
Speaker 1: that's just hard to do.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 1: I think just taking it day by day and continuing
Speaker 1: to make music that I love and do things that
Speaker 1: I love has been the most important.
Speaker 4: Thing for me.
Speaker 1: And I kind of learned all that during COVID, which
Speaker 1: was a terrible thing but allowed me to actually slow down.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but I'm the type
Speaker 1: that just kind of never stops. I work, I work,
Speaker 1: I love working, but I never really slow down. And
Speaker 1: that let me do that and so I kind of
Speaker 1: learned a lot about myself in that and it's helped
Speaker 1: the last few years for sure.
Speaker 2: And you have a baby on the way. Is it
Speaker 2: your first?
Speaker 4: It's our first? I saw all of you have three?
Speaker 4: Is that is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is this is our first. She's due
Speaker 1: early in March, and yeah, any advice you guys want
Speaker 1: to get made.
Speaker 4: Of time.
Speaker 2: I actually just need her phone number directly because I'm
Speaker 2: the wife of the artist and so that's the piece
Speaker 2: where I need to we need to connect. I mean,
Speaker 2: and I will say, we'll give you some good advice.
Speaker 2: But I think once you have that baby too, how
Speaker 2: you do your career and you're gonna I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just your why becomes a totally totally different why, you know,
Speaker 2: and the purpose that you have is is uh, I'll say,
Speaker 2: how do I say this for me? Once I had kids,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, this is not the most important thing
Speaker 2: anymore music or acting or it's like it's my kids,
Speaker 2: and your purpose kind of shifts a little bit, which
Speaker 2: is it's a weird it's it's a cool feeling, but
Speaker 2: it's it's definitely different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, obviously everybody I talked to right now,
Speaker 1: us having a kid comes up, and so everybody kind
Speaker 1: of gives you these little pieces of advice or these
Speaker 1: little slogans or things to be scared of. And so
Speaker 1: one thing I get a lot is, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's normally guys, and I'm like, we'll get ready to
Speaker 1: have no time for yourself and that actually I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's intended to scare me, but it
Speaker 1: actually kind of excites me. I mean, I feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thirty five, and I've done a lot
Speaker 1: of played college baseball and then moved into the music world,
Speaker 1: and I've kind of done a lot of me things,
Speaker 1: right like, every my life has revolved around me for
Speaker 1: kind of long enough, if that makes sense, And so
Speaker 1: I'm actually a little bit excited for that flip and
Speaker 1: to have a different why and a different purpose and
Speaker 1: so and we haven't even had our child yet and
Speaker 1: I'm already feeling that.
Speaker 4: So I know, I know it's coming, but I'm kind
Speaker 4: of excited about that.
Speaker 2: I might but it's a boy.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, it's a boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, king best piece of advice you can give
Speaker 2: him as a new daddy.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's so hard.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I got a list. I think it's probably
Speaker 2: I just had a baby life's phone number.
Speaker 3: I'm out of the baby stage. Mine are older, so
Speaker 3: mine has just shifted so much. You know, like if
Speaker 3: I go back to like baby stage, it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: sleep and you can you know, it's like all the
Speaker 3: obvious stuff. But gosh, the best advice I think is
Speaker 3: like getting so caught up in a single moment. Like
Speaker 3: it's like you, Kristen, were a little stressed earlier about
Speaker 3: something with your child, Like that will pass. It's just
Speaker 3: it's a moment. Look at the bigger picture. What is
Speaker 3: the bigger picture. What's the biggest goal for your children?
Speaker 3: That's one thing I've really just been having to learn.
Speaker 3: But that's kind of like a bigger.
Speaker 2: Picture than like the d dat nights won't last, Like
Speaker 2: that will not last, Like that's over, that's not in
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 3: Like my kids go to their rims on their own
Speaker 3: and they're in their rims. I'm like, all right, did
Speaker 3: anyone go to sleep or like good night, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it just changes so much.
Speaker 2: Right, and as a new dad, I know, you're on
Speaker 2: the road probably a lot, and you're going off on
Speaker 2: tour and all those things. But the one thing that
Speaker 2: my fiance did for me that was just I thought
Speaker 2: was the sweetest, most incredible thing was because I had
Speaker 2: a C section, And even so, I think he would
Speaker 2: have still done this, but he would not let me
Speaker 2: get up in the middle of the night to feed
Speaker 2: the baby like I did a couple times, but like
Speaker 2: he was always like, you need you need rest, you
Speaker 2: need to you know, you're the mother, Like you need
Speaker 2: to have sleep and you need to be you know,
Speaker 2: be okay. And so the fact that he he did
Speaker 2: primarily the middle of the night shifts so that I
Speaker 2: could recover, I thought was like such a beautiful thing. So, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that did not happen at my house for how long?
Speaker 2: You didn't almost in the entire time. I mean I'd
Speaker 2: get up a couple times. But I mean, why he
Speaker 2: was the mother Oh okay, yeah, because he's sleeping through
Speaker 2: the night. Now yeah, well yeah, now we're sleeping through
Speaker 2: the night. He's two months, almost three months, and now
Speaker 2: I was sleeping through the night, but sleep train. And
Speaker 2: my advice is really simple, maybe too simple. I don't
Speaker 2: have advice because I think God gives you the people
Speaker 2: that are meant for you specifically. So this little puzzle
Speaker 2: piece boy that's coming, you already know instinctually how to handle,
Speaker 2: what to do. My advice would just be to trust yourself,
Speaker 2: you gut, and each other. It's not as complicated as
Speaker 2: people love to make you feel. There's so many opinions,
Speaker 2: and I think I used. I started to get worn out.
Speaker 2: I was pregnant with our daughter. My husband his first
Speaker 2: single actually like went up the charts and he was
Speaker 2: gone gone, like right gone, and there was so much
Speaker 2: advice coming at me, and I'm like, all I know
Speaker 2: to do right now is kind of like hunker and
Speaker 2: just hear each other's heartbeat and try to figure this out.
Speaker 2: So I think you're already more than qualified. And I
Speaker 2: just hope you get to enjoy it because it does.
Speaker 2: I know everyone tells you goes fast. It's like crazy fast,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to freeze the third one because I
Speaker 2: know better and it's still fast. Right, Wait, when do
Speaker 2: you go on tour? Adam?
Speaker 4: Well, I was going to tell you guys. So we March,
Speaker 4: we were supposed to do in March, start we're supposed
Speaker 4: to start. We did our best to kind of schedule.
Speaker 1: We originally had like six shows scheduled and then a
Speaker 1: six week break and then more shows after that. And
Speaker 1: something that's been really heavy on me and my wife's
Speaker 1: mind is just an actually hers is I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be on tour for the really up until the
Speaker 1: last week of her pregnancy kind of situation. And we actually,
Speaker 1: right before I hopped on this call, actually I announced
Speaker 1: that we are actually going to pick up the first
Speaker 1: six shows and move them to the back of the tour,
Speaker 1: and so the tour is actually going to start April
Speaker 1: twenty fifth in Boston now. And that was again just
Speaker 1: kind of being with her and us getting together and
Speaker 1: talking with it, something that just brought her a lot
Speaker 1: of peace knowing that I would be here, we won't
Speaker 1: have to worry about me being in Rootstown, Ohio and
Speaker 1: getting a call that she's going into labor.
Speaker 4: Just that peace of mind of having that we actually
Speaker 4: just decided to do that and move the tour.
Speaker 1: So just a good example of kind of making work
Speaker 1: still still work, but keeping family first. I think and
Speaker 1: so that's been kind of a big weight off of
Speaker 1: both of our shoulders.
Speaker 2: So well, I'm buying all your songs because I just
Speaker 2: have that, like you're putting your marriage and your wife
Speaker 2: and all of that at peace, and just I just
Speaker 2: love that. Now I'm work will still be a fan.
Speaker 3: Work will still be Yeah, and like you said, you
Speaker 3: can put it in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting rescheduled and they'll be better because I'll
Speaker 1: have my little buddy with me at the shows now,
Speaker 1: and so it'll it'll be it'll be a good time.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was. It was a big deep breath
Speaker 4: for her for sure.
Speaker 2: Kristen. Does that make you a little bitter like angry
Speaker 2: and I ate bitter like little a little little angry angry, No,
Speaker 2: no it doesn't. We we're in the duo. So my
Speaker 2: husband's half of low Cash.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know your husband.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he knows you, but I didn't know
Speaker 2: if you like you know. Yeah, here, I'm just KB.
Speaker 2: So I just kick at KB style. But we you know,
Speaker 2: those guys have been doing this for like twenty years.
Speaker 2: So we just there's two families, right, Like essentially I
Speaker 2: have two husbands and I have a wife. So there's
Speaker 2: just a lot of and and quite honestly, like Caitlin
Speaker 2: and I for a while, we're just having a lot
Speaker 2: of babies. Like it was like she has three, I
Speaker 2: have three, you know. And so I think for us,
Speaker 2: we've done the best we could do. I mean, Hindsight's
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Adam, if we could really kick it for
Speaker 2: an afternoon, I would share a lot of stories with you.
Speaker 2: But I think you're just doing great. I mean I
Speaker 2: would say what you're doing is everything that needs to
Speaker 2: be done. I think this industry has a way of
Speaker 2: scooping you up and pushing you along. I think it
Speaker 2: has a way of making things look really shiny, and
Speaker 2: that can sometimes leave a lot of resentment and some
Speaker 2: hurt feelings behind. I think there's great places for therapy
Speaker 2: like Porter's Call and the Refuge Center for counseling if
Speaker 2: you need some deep dives into untangling some things. But
Speaker 2: I feel like we've kind of learned and loved at
Speaker 2: the same time. I think for me, I know too
Speaker 2: much about our industry because I worked for Big Machine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I can tell you do I sometimes I.
Speaker 2: Know, But see I sometimes give too much grace when
Speaker 2: I should just dig my heels in and say stay
Speaker 2: with me. But I know what's important. Amen, And I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I would be livid if he left. Yeah, in the hospital,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah. You also, oh, we had to go
Speaker 2: wrap up the Kane Brown tour. That's a huge opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And there's there's you know, the music industry
Speaker 1: is really the whole thing is just opinions and nobody's
Speaker 1: doing this. There's no correct answer for almost anything. So
Speaker 1: you know, there is something to be said for they
Speaker 1: have been grinding for a long time, and so when
Speaker 1: they do get a song that's running up the charts
Speaker 1: and they're getting these asks that they've always been wanting
Speaker 1: to do, that's a different situation.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you have to go do that, but
Speaker 4: it is I can tell that you are.
Speaker 1: You would love talking to my wife because she kind
Speaker 1: of can see it all from nothing's really shiny to her, right,
Speaker 1: it's all shiny to the hardest more so, but she
Speaker 1: can see right through it. And she's been really great
Speaker 1: for me in that and that's probably the reason that
Speaker 1: I'm able to just kind of calmly move shows and
Speaker 1: be like, you know what this is best for?
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's the most important too. With that's like,
Speaker 2: that's you know, family is the most important piece, and
Speaker 2: without that, your career is not going to go to
Speaker 2: the lengths that it will because of your career can
Speaker 2: go away tomorrow anyway's career ken, but your family, it's like,
Speaker 2: that's those are the people you need to cherish. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just such a crazy lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You know, like it's is it is not normal, and
Speaker 1: we forget about that right like it does seem normal
Speaker 1: to me or whoever it might be. It gets to
Speaker 1: the point where it's just normal and outside looking in,
Speaker 1: there's really nothing normal about it. And so she's always
Speaker 1: a good reminder of that. And also, I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get discovered on TikTok six months ago,
Speaker 1: and I'm going out on a headlining arena to work
Speaker 1: next week. You know, I've been around, I've seen the
Speaker 1: shiny bells and whistles. I've been in and out of
Speaker 1: bad record deals. I've kind of seen all of that.
Speaker 1: So I do know how it works and behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and so that's made it a lot easier too, to
Speaker 1: really prioritize what needs to happen. Here and so it's
Speaker 1: it's been great, and like I said, I think it
Speaker 1: was a great decision for us.
Speaker 2: Is Ain't She? Your newest song? One of your favorite
Speaker 2: songs to sing because it's about your lady?
Speaker 4: A lot of my songs are about my lady. But
Speaker 4: I have actually not really gotten to sing it. That
Speaker 4: came out in.
Speaker 1: January and we haven't been out on the road yet
Speaker 1: to play that song, so that's kind of going to
Speaker 1: be a new thing.
Speaker 4: I do love that song, though.
Speaker 1: I feel like that is the ultimate compliment as a guy.
Speaker 1: It's something I say all the time, ain't She? And
Speaker 1: I'm from Mississippi, so it kind of rolls off the.
Speaker 4: Tongue a little bit.
Speaker 1: But the ultimate compliment as a guy to me is
Speaker 1: just like to be at the bar with one of
Speaker 1: your buddies and your girlfriend's there too, and you look
Speaker 1: across the room and you're just kind of having a
Speaker 1: beer and you look over and you go, yeah, she's
Speaker 1: way too good for me, ain't she. That's like the
Speaker 1: ultimate compliment, I think, And so that's what we're all
Speaker 1: trying to find a girl we could say that about,
Speaker 1: and that's her for me.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I cannot wait until March,
Speaker 2: because you are going to be it's going to be
Speaker 2: through the roof. It'll be that at times a gazillion
Speaker 2: once you see her move into that other season of life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's already been that too a little bit, even
Speaker 4: just being pregnant. It's been fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell you're just such an intuitive, like
Speaker 2: intentional guy. So I think it'll be really cool for
Speaker 2: you to sing that on stage. Well, you've got a
Speaker 2: baby in headphones.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there's nothing cuter in the entire world
Speaker 4: in a baby and nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, babies all day, right, And do you plan on
Speaker 3: bringing him on the road, him and on the road, Yeah.
Speaker 4: For sure, we have.
Speaker 1: We've kind of already decided it. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: you have to kind of wait and meet the guy
Speaker 1: and see how he does with it. But we've just
Speaker 1: seen we've seen a lot of people have babies and
Speaker 1: kind of hunk her down and not have lives afterwards,
Speaker 1: and we've kind of committed to not doing that. We
Speaker 1: want to just be as active as we can. We
Speaker 1: still want to take trips, even if they're not on tour,
Speaker 1: just just trips for us.
Speaker 4: That kind of thing. So we are definitely going in
Speaker 4: with that mindset. Hopefully that'll stay the same, but that's
Speaker 4: that's the goal.
Speaker 2: I think it will. We did that like I love
Speaker 2: and I are. I mean, we were gone all the time,
Speaker 2: and I think they.
Speaker 4: Just know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah I had I had a crib on our bus side,
Speaker 2: a second bus. Yeah, a little little baby crip for Jolie.
Speaker 2: That was fun.
Speaker 1: That's definitely the goal for the next year is to
Speaker 1: get to the second bus. The second bush made no money.
Speaker 2: Second guys, we're also single hands in on three everybody else.
Speaker 2: It was a fun year, but then that year I
Speaker 2: also made zero money. My second bus is always going
Speaker 2: to say it, but I was gonna let use it.
Speaker 3: All the artists always want that second bus. And I'm
Speaker 3: coming from the management side, and I'm like, can we
Speaker 3: look at the money of the second bus?
Speaker 4: It makes.
Speaker 2: You guys, but nothing makes sense. We just have to
Speaker 2: soak up the living inside of the lives we're creating exactly,
Speaker 2: So what do you do with so Like, Okay, you're
Speaker 2: out on the road, how do you maintain the healthy relationship?
Speaker 2: Are you good at communicating? Like what would your what
Speaker 2: would your wife say? Is your best quality? And your
Speaker 2: worst quality I am.
Speaker 1: I would say maybe a couple of years ago, communication
Speaker 1: would have been on the worst side of qualities.
Speaker 3: I was not.
Speaker 1: I'm a big I'm a romantic, which an intentional and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing that you were picking up on
Speaker 1: a little bit, which are some of my best qualities.
Speaker 1: But it also made me like, for the first couple
Speaker 1: of years, I didn't like to just directly communicate things.
Speaker 1: I would rather surprise you and pick you up, or
Speaker 1: I would rather make plans that you know, it all
Speaker 1: had to be kind of a little bit more grand
Speaker 1: for me to be excited about it. And McKinnon has
Speaker 1: definitely taught me communication. She is the most straightforward, honest,
Speaker 1: loyal person I've ever met in my entire life.
Speaker 4: And she's been that way since our first date.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was just straight out of the gate,
Speaker 1: blunt exactly who she was, and now that I know her,
Speaker 1: i'd get that she's always been that way, But I
Speaker 1: was not that way. I was kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: I was raised, always put a smile on, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of be I was kind of the golden
Speaker 1: child a little bit, so I was supposed to be
Speaker 1: good at everything, even if things are going bad, just
Speaker 1: kind of keep the straight face going. And she has
Speaker 1: kind of brought the more real, honest side of me out,
Speaker 1: Like I enjoyed telling the truth these days. I used
Speaker 1: to be a little on the shady side, Like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that have changed about me, kind
Speaker 1: of growing up in that way that sometimes.
Speaker 2: You're a baseball player, it's just part of the.
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I don' want to trace
Speaker 4: it back to Yeah, what else do I need to say?
Speaker 4: I mean, there's some baseball players are brutal, sometimes.
Speaker 2: Brutal sometimes a podcast for another.
Speaker 1: There are some good ones, but there are also some
Speaker 1: really bad ones. But that that has been kind of
Speaker 1: the whole thing for us, I mean, figuring that out again.
Speaker 1: Covid we had almost two years of time that we
Speaker 1: would just have never had because I was used to
Speaker 1: I had never dated a girl in the same city
Speaker 1: as me until I met McKennon.
Speaker 2: Of course, I mean a little bit because I married
Speaker 2: one of you, So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I probably it probably was intentional. It was.
Speaker 1: It was as much as I wanted to handle a
Speaker 1: relationship kind of and but also I was you know,
Speaker 1: I moved from Mississippi to Nashville, and so there was that,
Speaker 1: there was that thing. But again, two years of COVID,
Speaker 1: I had, I'm used to being gone every Wednesday night
Speaker 1: or Thursday morning, and I liked it that way. Right,
Speaker 1: there was the break I needed, and so this gave
Speaker 1: us time to actually dive into one another and see
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. I feel like COVID either
Speaker 1: broke relationships or made them better, and luckily it made
Speaker 1: us a lot closer. And it's kind of why you
Speaker 1: see the relationship you see today. But I had, I
Speaker 1: was I always tell Mac, I was like I was
Speaker 1: not ready to meet you for sure, Like I needed
Speaker 1: a couple of years to get to the point. So sorry,
Speaker 1: I wasn't there when we first said hello, but I
Speaker 1: eventually made it.
Speaker 2: Well, y'all come. It is tricky though. It's like I
Speaker 2: watched in COVID, like the artist and artist couples fail first, right,
Speaker 2: like the artist and artist marriages. I mean, our country
Speaker 2: music really went through it. I was like, we really did,
Speaker 2: because we're all so used to living separate, and like, respectfully,
Speaker 2: we are ready for you to go on the road
Speaker 2: just as much as you probably are ready to go
Speaker 2: on the road. Right, so like we're all used to
Speaker 2: doing our own thing, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I remember by June of that year looking at Preston
Speaker 2: like do you need to get up on the counter
Speaker 2: and sing and shake your money maker? And I can
Speaker 2: just be down here in a crop top, like there's
Speaker 2: validation that you get every day out there that you're
Speaker 2: not getting here because you know the dice.
Speaker 1: To me, it's so hard, the validation thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have to I call it re entry when I get
Speaker 1: back home from the weekend. I actually started when the
Speaker 1: bus pulled back into the lot. I would I would
Speaker 1: take like ten minutes and just recenter my brain to like, Okay,
Speaker 1: for the last four days, you've been in a world
Speaker 1: where the whole entire thing around you, everybody out there
Speaker 1: either plays for you or works for you, or you
Speaker 1: know whatever. The fans are screaming at you, and they've
Speaker 1: been they're there for you, and you're about to walk
Speaker 1: into the house. And there were there were weekends where
Speaker 1: I would walk back home and be like, well, why
Speaker 1: aren't you excited to see me?
Speaker 4: Like what's going on?
Speaker 1: I had to like seriously after recenter, like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you she's probably wondering why you're not excited to see her, Like,
Speaker 1: this is flipped. This is re entry back into normal life.
Speaker 1: That was a hard thing, and you don't even you
Speaker 1: don't even really realize it for a while. And I
Speaker 1: think the music being an artist will turn you into
Speaker 1: a complete if you like. It's set up to turn
Speaker 1: you into an asshole if you let it. I think,
Speaker 1: so being aware of it is really nice. So I'm
Speaker 1: that's what I always re Entry is kind of my
Speaker 1: thing when I get back home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I give an unofficial twenty four hours for him
Speaker 2: to come back, and I don't tell it's not guaranteed
Speaker 2: because I don't want to have to give it because
Speaker 2: then I'll get resentful, right right, But I'm trying to like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, here's your quin waw, here's some water, here's
Speaker 2: a bathroom with a flushing toilet. You know, people think
Speaker 2: your life is glamorous, but sometimes it's tricky out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes we haven't showered since we left, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you want us to be excited to
Speaker 2: see you. I want you to know you said that,
Speaker 2: stanky Adam, oh Adam, Well, thank you for coming on
Speaker 2: and just being authentic. Thank you for putting out amazing songs.
Speaker 2: You're going out on the road in April, right.
Speaker 4: Is now night one?
Speaker 2: Yes, Boston, get ready and everyone download his news. We'll
Speaker 2: download all of the songs, but download his newest song,
Speaker 2: Ain't She because it's a good one. I'm your sweetheart.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you guys. It's great to talk with you guys.
Speaker 1: And we are doing we're rescheduling it now, but we
Speaker 1: are going to do a Nashville show.
Speaker 4: So whenever that ends up, be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'll let you guys. I'll let you guys know, and
Speaker 4: we'll have you guys out. I'd love for you to coments.
Speaker 2: Okay, where is it going to be at Brooklyn Bowl? Amazing?
Speaker 4: So fun?
Speaker 2: Lovin yeah, love love love, Okay, awesome, Well, good luck
Speaker 2: with everything. Enjoy every minut it of it. I mean
Speaker 2: I miss already the little and that was a few
Speaker 2: months ago.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I told Mac, I was like, are you
Speaker 1: going to miss having this little baby inside your belly?
Speaker 1: Like it feels like, you know, sometimes you feel your phone.
Speaker 2: I miss the kicks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel like your phone like a phone in
Speaker 1: your pocket that's not actually there. It's probably something like.
Speaker 2: That, you know, But wed range.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for the advice. I will I'll get
Speaker 1: you guys max numbers so you guys can talk. That'll
Speaker 1: be that'll be more efficient.
Speaker 2: She'll love it already. Thanks, Adam, have a great day,
Speaker 2: all right. Well, And he just a doll like he
Speaker 2: just like another she is. He's a sweetheart. He's so precious,
Speaker 2: you guys. It is just it's crazy. I'm looking him
Speaker 2: up right now. And oh the socials having babies in
Speaker 2: the road and all of it. I just need to
Speaker 2: see all put in the little face to the name.
Speaker 2: Look at her. Let me see her, McKinnon, McKinnon, dole.
Speaker 2: What a cute look, so cute little baby belly. I love.
Speaker 2: I do miss the baby because the baby. We have
Speaker 2: the baby's name on there, just baby dolea Okay, I
Speaker 2: like it. I'm gonna heard it. Yeah, dad, that's my girl.
Speaker 3: Speaking of real fast. Did you ever hear from anyone
Speaker 3: or figure out this girl on the plane?
Speaker 2: Well, no, we didn't put the teaser. They didn't put
Speaker 2: the teasers up. So I just asked for a teaser.
Speaker 2: So now I'm gonna now I'm gonna post about it. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So she's not a listener. No, all right with the candlestick.
Speaker 2: I know, same namesis some things, Yes, my love people
Speaker 2: that you talked to on planes. I talked with Sarah
Speaker 2: Gretzky this morning. What do you mean, oh, on the
Speaker 2: plane or you talk to you miss her on the
Speaker 2: plane because she was your non miss connection and it
Speaker 2: was funny were we both got asked to do a podcast.
Speaker 2: I know she did a podcast that I got asked
Speaker 2: to do a mom's podcast. It's awesome, and so I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, I was just checking in to see
Speaker 2: and she she was just so funny, and I said,
Speaker 2: I just feel like you're a good judge of character.
Speaker 2: I mean, you did pick Janna, and so it was cute.
Speaker 2: We were like, had a little moment. We need to
Speaker 2: get her on again. So she's so funny, get her on.
Speaker 2: But yes, okay, all things. Love you guys, I love you. Okay,
Speaker 2: bye bye bye