WEBVTT - The Hunting Wives with Malin Akerman

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Catherine, it's Thursday. Hi Chelsea, It's Thursday and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy to have you here.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally. I know Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>Has a mountain man here too. Now. I told Felix,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, listen, you have to take into the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains every morning. So he picks him lap and he

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<v Speaker 1>takes him to Los Montaigne's. But it's so sad the dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he sends me videos of Doug and it's just dirt,

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<v Speaker 1>white ray dirt. He went from Whistler where it's verdant

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<v Speaker 1>and green and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Snowy and yeah, well it wasn't snowy.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere, but like you know, lakes and now there's pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>He sends me a video yesterday. I'm like, is that

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<v Speaker 1>a coyote? He's like, I'm like, is Doug. What does

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<v Speaker 1>Doug do when he see nothing?

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<v Speaker 3>That thing? He looks at him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god. So yeah, I'm like he's

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<v Speaker 1>living a different lifestyle for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, there are new smells here. He's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>having some variety to Yeah, love variety.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess we do love variety. I added

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<v Speaker 1>a new show to my West Hampton show. The first

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<v Speaker 1>one sold out, so I added a show August twenty first.

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<v Speaker 1>Now and twenty second, I will be in West Hampton performing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm doing the I'm headlining the Rochester Fringe

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<v Speaker 1>Festival that's in September, and I am doing Napa Valley

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<v Speaker 1>and that's on October third. I'm doing Napa Valley some

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<v Speaker 1>big winery, so that's going to be beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And of course we had so much fun at

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<v Speaker 5>your Vegas show.

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<v Speaker 1>Vega, we gambled everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't win in the minute, but you won when

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<v Speaker 1>you went to the slots.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to the slots and I like put in

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<v Speaker 4>a twenty dollars bill and I won one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see you winning at the slots, cap.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I love a penny slot, like lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never waste my time at the slots because

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<v Speaker 1>that's just like I need more banks. But this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>I started betting bigger. I started betting like four or

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars around yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it worked right hand.

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<v Speaker 1>And when it was working, so I left with three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars more than I started.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you were brave betting, you were like thrown up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I also supplied again. I supplied everybody with

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<v Speaker 1>their gambling money and they all lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Well no, not everybody lost. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the bottom line is I never see that

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<v Speaker 1>money again. But if I walk away with it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I've given away money and I'm walking away with

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<v Speaker 1>more than I started within.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a win.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a win for everybody. Everyone's happy.

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<v Speaker 4>And then also like people are gambling because there's just

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<v Speaker 4>like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, there's a fun energy around gambling.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a really good time. It's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the same table every time after the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug was there. Doug was gambling because he's my meg king.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he's your lucky charm, he's my king. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I win without him. He is definitely not my lucky charm.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely not. I'm staying with my friend Cat right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has a little o balloompa dog. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what kind it is, but it's a small

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<v Speaker 1>one is something like not fluffy short hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't know what that type is, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not of interest to me, but Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny when they play because Doug is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>like fourteen times the size of her, and he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to pick her up like with his teeth. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yeah, that isn't a chew toy. No, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes and gets it, like puts his mouth

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<v Speaker 1>around her, and I'm like no, no, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>looks at us like, oh, I'm sorry. Am I not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to pick her up like this? It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not her mother.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a toy.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I know, so poor little Luna, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>little Luna bear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm like, he's rough stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank god. He's not a rapist though.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, not a humper.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to try to hump.

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<v Speaker 1>His friend Sally in Canada. But that was you know that,

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<v Speaker 1>that was okay because she's a friend of mine and

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<v Speaker 1>that dog is big and could defend herself. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And she was like, fuck you, Doug.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's like fix and everything, right, He just no,

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<v Speaker 5>I have.

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<v Speaker 3>A dog that's not fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, hello, that's just one more thing

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Afford to deal with. Right, they just do it. Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend Kat and.

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<v Speaker 1>I, Well, Cat's a good cook, so she's been cooking

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<v Speaker 1>for me because my house, of course is still.

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<v Speaker 2>Not No, of course not, of course, I house is.

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<v Speaker 1>Still not ready. Can you fucking believe it? I scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>my entire European tour and my entire European travels to

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<v Speaker 1>come home to a house home, and it's still not ready. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of which, ICE, we have a lot of groups

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<v Speaker 1>to donate to that I am that I aggregated, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's add those, like different organizations you can donate to

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<v Speaker 1>for families being affected by ICE. You could donate to

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<v Speaker 1>attorneys that are defending these people, or you can donate

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<v Speaker 1>to organizations that are helping feed them and are helping

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<v Speaker 1>them legal fees, legal fees, and also to help them

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<v Speaker 1>financially while they're unable to go to work because they're

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<v Speaker 1>being stopped every single fucking day so that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>get separated from their families. So it's a good place.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like five or six donation spots that I found

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<v Speaker 1>out that are really good to donate to.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, If you want to donate to families who are

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<v Speaker 4>affected by ice and immigration issues. Here are a few

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<v Speaker 4>places that you can donate. So one place you can

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<v Speaker 4>support is the Immigrant Defender's Law Center and we'll put

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<v Speaker 4>a link in the bio. They're a next generation social

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<v Speaker 4>justice law firm that defends immigrant communities against injustices. Jail

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<v Speaker 4>Support LA. It's a grassroots collective dedicated to supporting anti

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<v Speaker 4>repression work in Los Angeles and they provide bill money

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<v Speaker 4>for protesters in downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>La Unjon del.

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<v Speaker 4>Barrio is an organization that defends Mexican and Latin American community.

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<v Speaker 4>They have been organizing a lot of protests and teach

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<v Speaker 4>people how to do patrols in the event of a raid.

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<v Speaker 4>CHARLA is the Coalition for Human Immigration Rights and empowers

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<v Speaker 4>immigrants to push policies that promote freedom of movement, full

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<v Speaker 4>human rights, vigorous civic action, and strengthens democracy. When Vesino

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<v Speaker 4>is an in person responder training being held on July

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<v Speaker 4>twenty fifth, and it's in Moore Park, California, So if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to attend that, we'll put a link in

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<v Speaker 4>the bio. Eight PHO five UNDOCU fund provides funds and

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<v Speaker 4>support for immigrants Mixed Techo supports organizes and empowers the

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<v Speaker 4>indigenous migrant communities in California's Central Coast, and these raids,

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<v Speaker 4>illegal and immigration raids continue to happen. So any support

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<v Speaker 4>that you guys can provide will be put to good use.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, and we have a great guest today, an

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<v Speaker 1>old friend of mine who is in a new show.

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<v Speaker 1>And the new show is called Hunting Wives on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to be confused with hunting husbands or hunting

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<v Speaker 1>four husbands. It's hunting wives and figure that one out.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome Malin Ackerman. Hi, honey, Hi, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just talking about my bunyan surgery. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>at July fifth, so much fun, so I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually excited. I'm excited for you a month off

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<v Speaker 1>and just lying around my house, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, it won't even be a month like you'll be

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<v Speaker 3>up and if you want till, you can be up.

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<v Speaker 3>But otherwise, just milk it.

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<v Speaker 7>I milked it for as long as I could, even

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<v Speaker 7>though I could walk after a week.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could walk? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do physical therapy after?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I did with a with a trainer. And

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<v Speaker 3>a pee, you know what a physical therapist a pt.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was in a boot. Obviously I wasn't walking

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<v Speaker 3>without a boot. Not you're in a boot for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think we went to Vegas two weeks after

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<v Speaker 3>my surgery because we'd already booked it, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>got one of those one of those little roly things

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<v Speaker 3>where you put your knee on it, and you like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, what Vegas was intended for?

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<v Speaker 1>That in Disney World and when people roll around in

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<v Speaker 1>Disney World, Yeah, all you're missing is a drumstick, like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those giant turkey drumsticks. Okay, mallin. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>when did I see you last? I saw you at

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<v Speaker 1>Guy's house, probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Guy's house. Yeah, it was probably three am in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning, dancing on the glasser. Yeah, he felt great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was looking for my purse for about

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<v Speaker 1>four hours at that party.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever find it?

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<v Speaker 1>I did?

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<v Speaker 3>It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the story of my life. Some strange person just

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<v Speaker 1>came up to me, someone how I had never met.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was going around the party asking people, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have my assistants info? Because I might need

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<v Speaker 1>to get my driver and I'm alone, Like I came

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of people, but everybody had left and

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<v Speaker 1>I was still there. And then someone just walked right

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<v Speaker 1>up to me like some sort of heavenly angel instead

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<v Speaker 1>have you been looking for your purse? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, who are you?

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<v Speaker 3>And do you know who that person is? You have

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<v Speaker 3>know I that it was just a lovely human being

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<v Speaker 3>that's Anaean in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>We like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a fun party.

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<v Speaker 1>It was It's always fun, right, although last year was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit too my hectic, and I remember talking

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<v Speaker 1>to guy. I'm like, don't let anybody into that party,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets nuts, but you kind of get lost, like

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<v Speaker 3>you get your little pockets of like I'm always on

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<v Speaker 3>the dance so I love to dance. So my husband

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<v Speaker 3>and I are the same, and so we're always on

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<v Speaker 3>the dance flore until our feet can't take it anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>and you feel like you find your little pockast and

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden you turn around. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing the shuffle with Miles Teller and then you

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<v Speaker 3>turn around and and there's Chelsea falling over the table

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<v Speaker 3>and having the flast.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly the kind of impression I want to leave

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<v Speaker 1>people with. I remember the last time we were hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>this was many, many years ago. You had just had

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<v Speaker 1>your kid. That's how long ago we've spent. It's since

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<v Speaker 1>we spent tive years ago. Yeah, so you were I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think you got divorced soon after that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you met your husband.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon after that. My like the real life one. The

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<v Speaker 3>first one was like a trial run. And then number

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<v Speaker 3>two I met him when my son was three, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he's been in our life since then, which is awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine years crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's crazy that you have a baby with

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<v Speaker 1>someone and then you've become a unexpectedly become a single mother.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a little bit of a surprise. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>life is you can never plan it, as we all know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll try to do it, but it just it was

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<v Speaker 3>one of those things. And we're good now, like he's

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<v Speaker 3>in our life and it's and we're friends and all that,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was just when you have kids, you just

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<v Speaker 3>never know what that's going to be like, what it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to feel like. I know that so many people

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<v Speaker 3>have so many different reactions. Some people are like in

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<v Speaker 3>the movies where like everything's grand and beautiful, but for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part, it's fucking shocking. And you go through

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<v Speaker 3>a real emotional rollercoaster bringing a human being home and

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<v Speaker 3>you have to take care of it. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>for both of us it was just we We just

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<v Speaker 3>didn't prepare properly, and I think it really affected our relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>But who does prepare properly?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I mean, it's not like so many people are

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<v Speaker 1>taking parenting classes before they have a baby, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, And nine months is not enough time to

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<v Speaker 1>prepare for that kind of invasion.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And I wasn't even we weren't even preparing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just living life the way it normally was.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a baby was born. Oh my god, geez,

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<v Speaker 3>this is I got to keep this thing alive and

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<v Speaker 3>try to keep my relationship sexy. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>do you do that. I haven't no idea, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>I failed at it. But number two is a good

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<v Speaker 3>is good. And we decided not to have another kid

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<v Speaker 3>together because I was like, you know, let's just keep

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<v Speaker 3>it sexy, and we've got a kid already and like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's have fun. And when he gets old, he's twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you know, a few more years and he's out

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<v Speaker 3>of the house and we're going to travel the world

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<v Speaker 3>and we're still going to keep it sexy. So I know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know a little something about that. Because you decided

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<v Speaker 3>not to have children, you just kept spontaneous, spontaneity part

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<v Speaker 3>of your life, which is so much fun and I

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<v Speaker 3>miss it, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your sister introduced you to your husband, right, Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>did good memory.

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<v Speaker 3>She is now married to the guy who she's married

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<v Speaker 3>to your husband too. She's yeah, we live a polygamous life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very cool, you know, a little sestuous. But her

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<v Speaker 3>husband is also a brit and so my husband and

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<v Speaker 3>her husband were at drama school together, so he would

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<v Speaker 3>come out for like pilot season why when there was

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<v Speaker 3>isolot season when that existed, And so I met him

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of times, and then we ended up sitting

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<v Speaker 3>at Hamburger Mary's beside each other for a dry queen

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<v Speaker 3>bingo night, and that's where we fell in love, as

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<v Speaker 3>you do, because we sat beside each other and I

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<v Speaker 3>just realized at that time, like I'd met him a

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<v Speaker 3>few times, but I was finally ready, I guess, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was just so you know that British charm and wit,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was funny and kind of cute, and so,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I still didn't think we were going to

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<v Speaker 3>get married. I just thought we'd have a fun little

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<v Speaker 3>affair because he's seven years younger than me. Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. Yeah, it's great. And the nice thing

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<v Speaker 3>about younger men is that they adore you. He's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>you're my woman, and it feels you feel like a

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<v Speaker 3>woman around a younger man. I love it. I'm enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>this experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could see that I've ever dated for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that was so much younger than me, more than like

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<v Speaker 1>a year or so. So I don't know, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming I'm going to get around to it because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not getting any younger. Like I'm sure I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>start dating.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll introduce you to a few young boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'd like a little couple of flings,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with you know, the energy, sexual energy that younger men.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more interested in math than having to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, men my own age and their own issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Not not naming any names you dm me when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Sweden or you were texting me or some

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things, because that's where you're you're from.

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<v Speaker 1>You're from Sweden, I am, but I originally I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading your bio and you also have permanent residency status

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada, So.

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<v Speaker 3>I did that one. I had to give up when

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<v Speaker 3>I moved out here. I had a permanent because I

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<v Speaker 3>was there for twenty two years. And when we first

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<v Speaker 3>moved to Canada, Sweden wouldn't allow dual citizenship. And then

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<v Speaker 3>when it was finally time for me to move America

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<v Speaker 3>to America, then I could get dual citizenship. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was going to America. So it's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need a Canadian passport. I've got my Swedish passport.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I wish I had would have done it, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was about to ask you, I'm like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a house in Canada and I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>permanent residence. Yeah I do in Whistler. I go. I

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<v Speaker 1>love your first ice ski in the wintertime, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love I love Canadians. You know, they're so civilized, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so nice, so normal. It's a nice contrast to what

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<v Speaker 1>we deal with it. But a little bit yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was curious about learning. I mean, every all my

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<v Speaker 1>conversations lately are basically about how to naturalize another place.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you going to get to become a permanent

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<v Speaker 1>resident of another place? Back to Sweden. I have like

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<v Speaker 1>a few Swedish people in my life. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Stockholm for my most recent I just came

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<v Speaker 1>from Europe. I was on this European tour. It looked amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, It was amazing, and Stockholm was such a highlight.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so gorgeous out. We walked probably like fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand steps that day. We walked and walked and walked

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<v Speaker 1>and walked, and it was like one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>days of you know what felt like summer. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was in May, but it felt like the first

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole place was pumping. And this was like

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<v Speaker 1>how it was when we kept like hopping through Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd land and like the sun would be out and

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be in Copenhagen or Amsterdam or but Stockholm was

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<v Speaker 1>such a highlight. And I have a really good girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>who lives in Whistler who is Swedish. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>have another friend that I spent like my twenties with

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<v Speaker 1>that was Swedish. And I have to say, Swedish women

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<v Speaker 1>are so much fucking fun. And I feel like Swedish

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<v Speaker 1>culture tell me if this is true, Like women don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about marriage in the same way that American women

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<v Speaker 1>care about marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. The whole thing of Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, there's that really weird thing where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>you have to spend half your yearly salary for the rank,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's all these rules around things. Swedish women are

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like take it early. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 3>the Viking mentality we grew up on versus you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess America was built on, you know, religion, and

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a very separate It feels very logical in Sweden.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also feel like the women there, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why or the history of it, but

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<v Speaker 3>the women in Sweden are the aggressors and they're very independent.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels very like it always feels like women have

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<v Speaker 3>always been an equal over there, and so you just

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<v Speaker 3>feel empowered, which is really interesting. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why, but I do feel like women are

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<v Speaker 3>just strong and takeway they want kind of thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>I love that about it, you know, and men tend

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<v Speaker 3>to follow suit and stand in line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wonder if it does have something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the Vikings. I'm gonna have to read a book

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, go to I should know my own culture

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<v Speaker 3>really and I wonder if.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all scale, like if it's all that area in

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<v Speaker 1>Scandinavian cultures too, where women, I mean obviously they're like

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<v Speaker 1>government wise and happy wise, like everybody seems a lot

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<v Speaker 1>happier in that part of the world, Scandinavia in general.

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<v Speaker 3>And when also when you get like a year mattornity

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<v Speaker 3>leave six months paternity like everything is it works like

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<v Speaker 3>everything You pay really high taxes in Stockholm, but they

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<v Speaker 3>go towards the things that you want them to go towards,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can go to university for free in Sweden

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<v Speaker 3>and get a really brilliant education, you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>where our tax money goes to, which I would love

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<v Speaker 3>to see here, you know. Having a kid here, I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>it's expensive because he can't go to all the public schools.

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<v Speaker 3>We were lucky to put him in a charter school

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<v Speaker 3>for the first few years of his life, but now

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<v Speaker 3>we just switched him over and we're like, wow, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy that we have to pay for kindergarten. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to for anything, but it's crazy that

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<v Speaker 1>parents have to pay for fucking kindergarten. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>live in a city that is absolutely ridiculous. Watching that

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<v Speaker 1>back race and watching people apply to kindergartens and preschools

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<v Speaker 1>is like, Honestly, when I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was pregnant, I had a friend of mine, a friend

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<v Speaker 3>of mine's mother, who was like, okay, listen, we need

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<v Speaker 3>a meeting. And I was like okay, and she comes

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<v Speaker 3>over to my place and she goes, listen, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to start looking into preschools. You got to start putting yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, my kid isn't even born.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you mean.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, oh, it's impossible. I'm gonna introduce you to

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<v Speaker 3>a woman who's gonna get you in. And I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really freaked out. I didn't know what the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck was going on. So this woman comes over and

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, Okay, I know everybody at every school. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>help you fill out all the forums. I'll help you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I feel like I could fill out

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<v Speaker 3>a form myself. And she goes and it'll cost seven

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars. I just went I'm good. He'll go to

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<v Speaker 3>whatever preschool he goes to and it'll be fine. He'll

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<v Speaker 3>learn how to count to three and it'll be great.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was just there's this whole gamut here where

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<v Speaker 3>people scare you into thinking like if they don't get

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<v Speaker 3>into the right preschool, then you know they're just never

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<v Speaker 3>going to make it in life, which is nuts. It

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<v Speaker 3>really is coming from Canada where you're just like, you

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<v Speaker 3>just go to the schools that you go to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, by the way, Canadian colleges are seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for a whole entire year. So you could either

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<v Speaker 1>get a coach to get you into kindergarten in America,

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<v Speaker 1>or you could go to college for seven thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year. Your dealer's choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dealer's choice. What are you going to choose?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm into that new Prime Minister of Canada though, Mark Carney.

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<v Speaker 1>I like his attitude all lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of taking what you want, Okay, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Hunting Wives, because first of all, you are really getting

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<v Speaker 1>after it in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get to see it?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw three episodes. Yes, I watched it while I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting my roots done yesterday. Back I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>in full action, having lots of action with a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of different people, and yeah, I was like, wow, look

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<v Speaker 1>at you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Margot Banks, who is the character that I play as

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<v Speaker 3>you saw, is probably one of the favorite characters that

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever played. Talk about like living in her own

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<v Speaker 3>power right, just like taking whatever she wants. She is

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<v Speaker 3>master manipulator. She is Lady Macbeth behind the scenes, just

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<v Speaker 3>with her puppeteering. Super fun to play, you know. All

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<v Speaker 3>the cast was It's one of those dream scenarios where

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<v Speaker 3>everything kind of fell in place. I mean at first

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<v Speaker 3>when I read the script, I then gave it to

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<v Speaker 3>my husband and I was like, am I this person?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I do this?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Should I do this? Is this crazy? It is nuts?

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<v Speaker 3>And he read it and he went, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>are you kidding me this? You have to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's literally his fantasy is this whole show? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she is. She is something to be reckoned with. But

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<v Speaker 3>the beauty of it, because you only set three episodes,

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<v Speaker 3>it gets there's so many twists and turns that are

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<v Speaker 3>coming your way. By the end, you can't even believe

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<v Speaker 3>where it's taken you. And that's what the fun part is.

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<v Speaker 3>About it is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can see that there's a lot happening, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot that's going to happen. Oh, this is exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>This is AWESO coming out.

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<v Speaker 3>All eight episodes get dropped all at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>on July twenty first, So you know, okay, corn and

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<v Speaker 3>sit for eight hours straight and watch this crazy show.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's basically let's give a synopsis of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically this. Brittany's snow is also in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and she basically moves I think from the East coast

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<v Speaker 1>to East Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right? That's right, small little made uptown in

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<v Speaker 3>East Texas where Margo Banks and her husband Jed Banks

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<v Speaker 3>are basically like the queen Bee and the soon to

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<v Speaker 3>be governor of this little town.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's played by Dermot mulrooney.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, dream vote he's Oh my god, he's such

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<v Speaker 3>a nice suff here into chemistry together. I love that man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a great guy. And it's such a great

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<v Speaker 1>role for you. I like, I love seeing you in

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<v Speaker 1>a lead role and being this kind of master puppettier.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love watching that and I love seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>shine in that way. So congratulations, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so much fun. It really is, like if

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<v Speaker 3>you like Big Little Eyes and Yellowstone, it's like they

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<v Speaker 3>have a baby and this is it, you know, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's salacious and fun and sexy and wild. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you get how do you deal with having sex scenes

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<v Speaker 3>with different people?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that an issue?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do to prepare for those?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing is is that, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 3>intimacy coordinators nowadays, which is a saving grace. I love

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.720
<v Speaker 3>it so much because you have this person who comes

0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 3>to you know, if it's me and Brittany having a

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<v Speaker 3>scene together, she'll talk to us separately and say, all right,

0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 3>what are you guys comfortable with? What do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to show? What do you not want to show?

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<v Speaker 7>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? What are we doing here? And then we come

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<v Speaker 3>in together and do rehearsals just like stunt choreography. She

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.399
<v Speaker 3>actually used to our intimacy coordinator used to be a

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.800
<v Speaker 3>stunt choreographer, which is awesome and she was the best.

0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.239
<v Speaker 3>And so it's like doing choreography. You get it all

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<v Speaker 3>settled and then you show your director and they sign

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<v Speaker 3>off on it. So when you go to set that day,

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.679
<v Speaker 3>you know exactly what you're doing. There are no surprises,

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.920
<v Speaker 3>nobody's doing anything different. We both feel comfortable with what

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 3>we're doing. And I want to say comfortable. It's still

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<v Speaker 3>not like whoo, this is going to be great. It's

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<v Speaker 3>still weird. You know, you're still there with the crew

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<v Speaker 3>and cameras. It's never what it looks like on screen.

0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Is it's never as intimate as we make it look.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's very respectful and it's very well organized and

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<v Speaker 3>directed and taken care of.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I once did a movie like I don't remember what

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<v Speaker 1>it was even called, and I had to kiss this

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<v Speaker 1>guy and I was like, I can't. I cann't kiss him.

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.399
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I can't kiss this person. And the

0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:31.600
<v Speaker 1>director's like, you just have to kiss him on the lips,

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<v Speaker 1>like it can be short, like it just has to

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<v Speaker 1>look like you're about like you're about to start making out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't, I can't do it, like I'm

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.879
<v Speaker 1>not attracted to him. He's like, I know, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is not real life. You're acting, and I'm like, which

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.160
<v Speaker 1>is why I'm not an actress. I'm like, I can't

0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 1>make out with a man. And the whole time I

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:50.720
<v Speaker 1>just wanted him to be yelling cut before he yelled

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it like the whole time, I was like black. Yeah,

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I had such a childish reaction to being to be

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<v Speaker 1>having to act in like a romantic setting where where

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really attracted him. So do you ever have

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.840
<v Speaker 1>those types of feelings where you're like, I want this

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to be over.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've suppressed it so far down it's been

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 3>so long, doing it for so long that you just

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 3>pull up your bootstraps and go. But no, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta be honest, there hasn't been I haven't I've

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 3>I had one once, I gotta say. And this was

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<v Speaker 3>in the very beginning of my career, before I even

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.119
<v Speaker 3>came out to Hollywood, and I had to do a

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.000
<v Speaker 3>like a kiss with it guy. It was nothing like

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't even a makeout thing, but he there was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was one of those like off camera just wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a nice guy, like wasn't a great guy. So I

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 3>just didn't like him very much. And not only that,

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 3>but he decided to eat sidziki, which has tons of

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 3>garlic in it, right at lunch, right before our scene.

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<v Speaker 3>So not only did I not like him, he smelt

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 3>like garlic and I had to kiss him and I

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, everything about it. And that was very

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.239
<v Speaker 3>early on in my career, so I didn't know how

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.200
<v Speaker 3>to handle it. But yes, that was one moment where

0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, please, just cold cut. But otherwise

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:05.399
<v Speaker 3>it's it's I've had a beautiful experience and most of

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 3>the people that I've worked with, I've just really enjoyed,

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 3>and it's been you kind of when you're in that character.

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 3>You go into it and you feel like that character,

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 3>and of course once they call cut, you feel silly

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 3>and awkward and're like, hey, how's your wife? Everything good

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 3>at home? Great? It is a very strange thing. And

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 3>if you're not in the acting world and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>do it, I can understand people on the outside going wow,

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 3>how do you do that? But I guess you get

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 3>used to it. I guess you do it in character.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I guess right, you would do it in character.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you feel a sense of like you must

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<v Speaker 1>feel a sense of responsibility to make the other actor,

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a woman or a man or anything in between,

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>do you feel responsible for making the other person feel comfortable?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think both both parties, and that's been in

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 3>my experience ninety nine percent of the time is that

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<v Speaker 3>both parties, myself and the other party are just super

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.479
<v Speaker 3>respectful and considerate. And you know, as soon as they

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:01.440
<v Speaker 3>call cut it like hey, are you okay? Are you good?

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, I have some scenes with George Ferrier in

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 3>this in this show, and he plays a nineteen year

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 3>old boy, but he's in his early twenties and we

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 3>have a relationship that's of a sexual nature. And of

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 3>course everything was treated just as it would with the

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 3>intimacy Cordy. It was beautiful, it was lovely, respectful. But

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 3>after every shot, I would be like I felt like

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 3>a mother. Tim was like, are you okay, yourn you

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 3>need some water? Do you need some Like can I

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<v Speaker 3>get you anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry?

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Or are you welcome? I don't know what to say

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 3>right now, but it was just really to say that,

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 3>like it's just been a lovely experience, and yes, you

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I think everyone is super considerate in those situations.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a great shot of you pulling up on a

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>jet ski. First of all, your wardrobe is awesome because everybody, yeah,

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean I get to comment on women's bodies, but

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>your body's just ridiculous, and your legs go off for

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>miles and miles and miles, and you should always just

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>be in a bathing suit because you should be showing

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that body off. Fine, she pulls up on a jet

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>ski on this beach to pick up Brittany, and it's

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>so funny because it's just like, you know, you're on

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the hut. Basically, it's like a Baywatch moment. Yeah, totally,

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>it's totally like a Baywatch moment. But yeah, I just

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>like seeing you kind of command a show. It's very

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>nice to see that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely enjoying it, and I have to say, you know,

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 3>you've earned that. Thank you. I feel like I've earned

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 3>it too. But I also feel like this character, I

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 3>love sitting in the power of what it is sometimes

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 3>to be female and what it is to use that

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 3>and weld that power. Not that I would ever use

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 3>it the way she does, but it's fun to play

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 3>that because you go, women really have this power, not

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 3>that it should be used in this way, but wow,

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 3>is it ever fun to exercise that in a role

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 3>And it is really just juicy And it was I

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 3>felt the same about my role in Billions, where she

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 3>was just this powerful character. And I love women in

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 3>power like that, whether they're using it for good or bad.

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 3>It's just fun to play.

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>It's also fun to examine that because men men can

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>be so powerful with almost no power, you know, like

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>they don't really have any real power necessarily, and they

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>present as they do just because of the nature of

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>society and you know, the way things have shaken out

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>thus far. But women really are the powerful ones, Like,

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>we have so much inside of us. So whenever there

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>are people that call into the podcast, which you'll experience shortly, like,

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>there's so many women who are unaware of the power

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:30.680
<v Speaker 1>that lies within them.

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 3>And totally it's our job as.

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Women who are more mature and have the wisdom and

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>experience to know that it's so important to inject women

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>with that vibe, you know, to make sure everyone knows

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>how powerful you are. Like I was with this I

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 1>was with this young couple of yesterday doing something and

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>we were filming something and they were just so traditional, right,

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 1>and they were like talking about getting married and they

0:26:57.960 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>were I was in their apartment in New York City

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and they were so young, and they were both adorable

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and sweet and kind of innocent, but they weren't even

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty and she's just I just could tell, like, oh, this.

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Girl really wants to marry this guy.

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And he wants to marry and they think this is

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>it and you know it probably or may will be,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>who knows. But also why why is it necessary to

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you know? Especially I mean, you know that because you've

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>been through, you know, a first marriage. But I want

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>women to know, like life just keeps getting better and

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 1>better as you get older, and the more wisdom we acquire,

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the sexier life becomes, and the more like possibilities, and like,

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 1>don't limit your possibilities for the world.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 3>A hundred and that you know, Chelsea, that's why I

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 3>love you so much. And what you put out there

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 3>in the world in your comedy and your voice, you

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 3>just it shows women that you can. You can be vocal,

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 3>and you can be out there, and you can be confident,

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 3>and you can do whatever the fuck you want, like

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 3>skiing and and be key because we can. But I

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 3>just think that it is so important for women to

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 3>understand that our voices can and should be heard. And

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>it's okay, not every I had to go through a

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 3>lot of work of I was, I still am. It's

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 3>still in me a people pleaser, but I realized that

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 3>people pleasing is actually just a way to control other people.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 3>So it's not a really nice thing. It's just I

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.120
<v Speaker 3>need to control their emotions so that they don't make

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 3>me feel a certain way. So instead I had to

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 3>start learning how to say no and standing up for

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 3>myself and being okay with the fact that some people

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 3>might think that I'm a bitch, or some people might

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 3>think that whatever they want to think, but I have

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 3>to align myself with what's true to me and how

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 3>I feel. And the same goes with relationships. Like when

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 3>I met my husband, I was like, I'm not a

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 3>finished product yet. You know, I just went through divorce,

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 3>I just had a kid, Like, I don't really know

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 3>who I am right now. So who you're getting right

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 3>now is not who I'm going to be in ten

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 3>years from now. So if you want to enter into

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 3>this as a relationship, cool. It may or may not work,

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 3>but we can give it our best shot, and that's

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 3>fun and that's great. Now he happens to be the

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 3>best partner ever, which I didn't expect. I really thought

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>he was just going to be a little romp in

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 3>the sack and then he's going back to England. But

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 3>it didn't turn out that way. He stayed. But I

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 3>think it's really important and it's really hard, and it's

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 3>a really long journey. And I feel like I'm only

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 3>stepping into myself in my forties, you know, and who

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 3>I want to be and understanding myself and being confident

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 3>enough to take those steps to living more authentically to

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 3>who I am, and whoever doesn't want to be part

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 3>of that just isn't going to be in my life.

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's okay, right, And that the stage of your

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>life that you're in when you meet somebody is not

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a fixed state, Like you're not going to be that

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>way forever. None of us are. We'll always evolving or devolving.

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Or sometimes you go through a rough patch and you

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>know you're not at your best, and that could happen

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>at any time in your life. Even when you feel

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>like you've gotten all figured out, then something can like

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of throw you and you're like, oh shit,

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>this isn't me operating on my A plus plus self.

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>But that's okay, Like to give yourself the grace that, Okay,

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>this is a rough patch, I'm going to get through it.

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I've gotten through everything else that has come my

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>way in my life and this is just another something

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect. As you said when we started talking today,

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that you can't really plan, you know, your life. So

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>when I see these young people planning their futures and

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I've got to marry this by this age and i

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>want to have this many kids by this age, I'm like,

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>oh God, throw that all out the window. You can

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>have your kids, and you can have your husband, but

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't have to be at like these little

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>tent poles, like in order an arrangement, And I.

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Feel like that sets you up for a disappointment instead

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 3>of just going, let's see what happens.

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll take a break and we'll be right back

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>with Malin Ackerman.

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 3>And we're back with Mallin. What's your husband's name, Jack,

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Jack Darley? Oh yeah, I love British guys, you know. Yeah,

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Well we'll find you a young one, you know, I know, yes,

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 3>next up, put the word out.

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<v Speaker 7>I like that.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>That's usually where I have most of my hookups, is London.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because they're super fun and like just a blast,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll ask my husband if he has any good, real

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 3>good ones that are single.

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, please do, please do, Catherine, What do we have

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>in store for us?

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, we can start with an easy one, so Jessica says,

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 4>Dear Chelsea. I'm a twin sister, and my mom and

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 4>aunt are also twins. My mom is one of nine and.

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Has six sisters.

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 4>All that to say, sisterhood is a huge value I

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 4>hold and has always been a major part of my

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 4>life due to work, which is a good thing and

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity I'm related for. I'm going to be moving

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 4>to the West Coast from the East Coast, and my

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 4>big question is about my twin sister. She's had some

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 4>recent challenges in her life, and I'm so worried about

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 4>quote abandoning her or feeling like I'm moving on without

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 4>her across the country. She's also a badass and is

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 4>in no way in trouble like where she's reliant on me. However,

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 4>emotionally and with her.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Self confidence, she's in a rut right now.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering if you have any tips and tricks on

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 4>how you keep in touch with your sisters that are

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 4>in different time zones than you, and also how to

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 4>help them grow and navigate the challenges they might be

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 4>facing while you aren't there physically. Finally, one last question

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 4>is whether you prioritize certain events to be there in

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 4>person with them versus those are okay with not being

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 4>physically there. For kind regards to Jess, well, how many

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 4>sisters do you have?

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<v Speaker 3>Balin, I have two half sisters and one half brother,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 3>so and they're all over the place. I mean, we

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 3>grew up in different countries. They grew up in Sweden,

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 3>My brother and I grew up in Canada, and I

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 3>moved out here when I was twenty two, so I've

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>only experienced long distance relationships with my siblings. And if anything,

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I think you cherish your time together even more when

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>you do see each other. And I think with all

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 3>the technology that we have nowadays, I mean, all of

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 3>my besties are somewhere in Costa Rica, some are in Canada,

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 3>some are in Sweden. We keep in touch all the time,

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 3>and when you get together it's like no time is past.

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 3>I think the people that you're closest to you work

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 3>it out. It works it self out. And yes, I

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 3>think you should go and be there for milestones and

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 3>big events and whatnot. And you know, make time for that.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 3>But it sounds like this woman is saying, you know,

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 3>her sister's a badass and she's going to figure it out.

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 3>You can be there from a distance time zone totally.

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 3>It's just three hours difference. It's not that bad.

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like any sort of distance is prohibitive

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to maintaining a relationship with somebody that you care about deeply,

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.719
<v Speaker 1>especially your sisters. There's texting, there's face time, there's zooms.

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>You can like schedule calls. You can text and say

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>want to hop on the phone, you can FaceTime, you

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>can do all those totally, and just make sure that

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>your presence is known and available, that you're making yourself available.

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the most important thing for any relationship

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that you care about, is that you're you know when

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>when you hear from your sister, that you're your responsive,

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that you get back to her in a nice fashion.

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Not like I hate when this doesn't happen to me

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and my sisters or siblings, but like, you know, if

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>someone texts you, you should text them back that day.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm really good on text. I'm less good on email,

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I'm text is more immediate to me,

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>But there are some people who don't text back for

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>fucking four or five days, and I'm like, what what

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of app do you?

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>How does that show up on your phone? But I think,

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're worried about somebody, you just make sure

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that your presence is understood for for the other person,

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and make sure that you're checking in, going you know, hey,

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>what's up, and asking questions that lead somewhere rather than

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>going how are you? How's it going?

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? What it like more specific like what did you

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 3>do today?

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Who were you? You know, did you have a good weekend?

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Would did you do anything fun?

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Just like try to engage in a

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>way that requires a response, so you can kind of

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>measure how your sister is doing rather than just checking

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in in a kind of banal way.

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, open ended questions that let her kind of

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 3>figure it out on her own, but you're there holding

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 3>the space. I think is really important. Yeah.

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Something that's helpful for me too is like having a

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 4>regular call. So it's like my mom every Friday, we

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 4>know what time we're talking, and like sometimes it has

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 4>to move by a day or we skip a week

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 4>or whatever, but having that.

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Time on the calend just so we know, like it.

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 2>It makes it a lot more regular than.

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good idea.

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it really depends on your personality type,

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I would never stick to something like that, but

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that's if you're if you are organized in

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>your sisters organize, then that's great.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's nice to have something to look forward to

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 3>as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Especially you can also put it on you like I'm

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>moving away, I'm going to miss you, you know, like,

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>don't make it about checking in on her. You make

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.919
<v Speaker 1>it presented as like I hate being this far away

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>from you, or I need to make sure we have

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a check in for my sanity.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I don't know if you guys ever did

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.399
<v Speaker 3>this during COVID, but like you do the zooms where

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 3>you like happy hour zooms and you bring grab your

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 3>cocktail and you sit and have happy hour together. You

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 3>can do that from before. You can do so many

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>things with technology nowadays.

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Those are the only kind of zooms I had, Even

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>if the other people on the zooms weren't having happy hour,

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>even if it was a work call, I was drinking.

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Was like okay, yeah, I'm like everyone's whoom, and that

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>means everyone needs to start drinking.

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 7>Well.

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Our next question comes from Lucy.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 4>She says, Dear Chelsea, I've recently become close friends with someone,

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 4>and while our friendship sparked quickly, I'm now questioning if

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 4>we're truly compatible or if I'm just being a hater.

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 4>She's fiery, outspoken, and unapologetically flashy, think bold, designer fits

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 4>and luxury everything. I, on the other hand, lean more

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 4>toward quiet, luxury and a calmer energy. We share a

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 4>meaningful bond. We both grew up in fairly turbulent homes

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 4>and we've both worked hard to break out of that,

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 4>so there's a sisterhood there.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>But sometimes I find her behavior grating.

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 4>There's a subtle superiority vibe that creeps in, and it

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 4>stirs something competitive in me that I don't love. I

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 4>pride myself on being grounded and accepting, but this dynamic

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 4>has me questioning whether I'm being too judgmental or if

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 4>deep down we're just not besty material long term. So

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 4>my question is, how do you tell the difference between

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 4>being incompatible and being insecure? Is it okay to love

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 4>someone but not like all of them? Respectfully, Lucy.

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean this is a hard lesson to

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>learn for me, I know, because I want everyone to

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>be like one hundred percent of the things I like.

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the negatives, But that doesn't happen in life.

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Like everyone's gonna have the thing that greats. You're on

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>your nerves when you spend too much time with somebody

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 1>or enough time with somebody, and you don't have to

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>like diagnose the relationship to best the best friend that

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you'll ever have in your life, Like a friendship is

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>give and take the fact that she's so much different

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>than you is a good thing, Like that's exciting, Like

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a good way for you to be less narrow minded.

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, if we just become friends with people who

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>are like us, then we're not really learning that much

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and we're not we're actually being very judgmental. So I

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's always a good exercise to be friends with

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:46.959
<v Speaker 1>people that kind of take you out of your comfort zone.

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And then when you are feeling judgmental, something I do

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>is like, why do I feel judgmental?

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:51.359
<v Speaker 3>Right now?

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>What is it about this behavior that is making me

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>act like this? Because I don't want to be judgmental.

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I want to be open minded, you know, or if

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody's grating on my nerves, that's usually something about yourself

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>rather than something about the other person, because you shouldn't

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody shouldn't annoy you that much that you're friends with,

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't need to spend that much time with

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>them if they're kind of annoying that does that add

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>up to you totally?

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Totally?

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 7>I yeah, I think it's it's definitely this difficulty right

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 7>of like, it's a harsh world. Being human, it's very difficult.

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 7>So I'm I'm super receptive and open to the fact

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 7>that we have so many different ways of going through

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 7>life and it's such a layered experience. Yeah, it's obviously insecurity.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 7>Is there a little incompatibility in the sense of maybe

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 7>we don't need to be super close? Is this a

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 7>loose acquaintance? Do you have these people in your life?

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, I think so.

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. I think, you know, I read a book that

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 3>John Cleese and his therapist wrote. I studying psychology in school.

0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was gonna be my path and I

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 3>remember it so vividly because what I loved about it

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 3>was in relationships any relationship, romantic or friendship. You get

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 3>attracted to people that have these you know, you have

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 3>these sliding doors that are you know, the mosquito net

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 3>doors right and behind those doors are things about yourself

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 3>that you haven't shared or that are maybe subconscious or

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 3>like the DNA and the fiber of who you are,

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 3>and the other person has the same thing. And you

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 3>get attracted to somebody because of the things that are

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 3>behind those doors, and then when they start to come out,

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 3>it's because you're meant to share those things and learn

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 3>from them and grow from them. And growth can be uncomfortable.

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 3>So this can might be one of those situations where

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 3>there's stuff that's getting stirred up from behind those doors

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.800
<v Speaker 3>for you and it's uncomfortable. But maybe you've met this

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 3>person's that you have to face those things and look

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 3>at them. And like Chelsea said, like why am I

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 3>feeling this way? And what about vocalizing it and saying hey,

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 3>you know sometimes when you do this it makes me

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 3>feel like this is the onus is on me right

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 3>now and I'm just trying to figure myself out. Yeah,

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 3>but I just wanted to let you know, maybe we

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 3>could have a conversation about it. Maybe I don't know,

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, what's in it for you to lose? Really,

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I did that with my husband when I first met him,

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, this is how I'm feeling. These

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 3>are the things that I'm afraid of, and these I'm

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 3>going to tell you a few things. And if you

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 3>leave and walk away because you think that's terrible, then

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 3>leave and walk away. And I guess I'm going to

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 3>have to take that. But I need to be honest

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>now and start speaking from an honest place. So if

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 3>you're feeling uncomfortable in situations or she does something that

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 3>feels weird, address it in a diplomatic, beautiful way that

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 3>opens a conversation.

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe what's an example of something that she does that

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>gives you kind of like cringe feelings?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh yeah, yeah, I was thinking about this. There's definitely

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 7>this this social media element to it, all right. Because

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 7>it was just a physical experience of us hanging out,

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 7>it's more subdued. But on social media, I think I

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 7>just have like this status signaling fatigue. And you know,

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 7>in this day and of influencers, of course, it's usually

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 7>more like indirect and they're trying to it's a little

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 7>more modest, humble, you know whatever, And so I kind

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 7>of am like, okay, go you for my friend because

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 7>she's a little more just like direct, like this is

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.800
<v Speaker 7>how it is. I'm excited about. This also rubs me

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:20.399
<v Speaker 7>the wrong way, but I think it's a general fatigue though.

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 7>But I will give one example. So they recently got

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 7>a little a little boat, and in the post, she's

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 7>steering the boat with big old ring left. Uh but

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 7>I know, I know she's right handed. You know, I'm like,

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 7>are you steering that boat with your left hand? Right right?

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 7>You know, just silly little things like that where it's

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 7>it's not as so it's a massive deal. It just

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 7>puts me off a little bit.

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a fair thing to say, Yeah, don't

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you ball in, and like, yeah, I think that is

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>because that is kind of not true. Is she's presenting

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.399
<v Speaker 1>something that's you know, and it's very showy. And while

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you can accept that as a part of her personality

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that she's showy, like you have to understand that's who

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>she is, but there is something about like presenting something

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. But I mean I wouldn't pick that

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>example because it can be that's pretty like granular. You

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>can say to someone it makes me uncomfortable how showy

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you can be. You can say that, go that's me,

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that's me personally. I don't want to prohibit your behavior,

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>but it just doesn't make me feel It makes me

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>feel weird, like it's hard for me to watch a

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>little bit like that. That can come up organically at

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>some point. But you also don't have to label exactly

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>what type of friend this person is to you, Like

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>when you said like, is this a loose associate or

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>is this my best friend? You are like kind of

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>declaring what something is while it's happening, and then you're

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.439
<v Speaker 1>like missing the whole moment anyway, And I've been there.

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I understand what that is. You're like, oh, how much

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of this person can I take? And that's up for

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you to decide, But you and also have more fun

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>within the moment and be like, oh my god, this

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.479
<v Speaker 1>is fun to hang out with a person. I would

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.959
<v Speaker 1>never act like this. I have a lot of friends

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that that I'm like, oh my god, I would never

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>act like that, and I half of my friends think

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that about me. So I think that that's like a

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>good reminder, you know what I mean, Because I'm sure

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>there's things that you do that probably maybe rub her

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the wrong way, or and she's able to look beyond them,

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>or maybe there isn't anything that you do that rubs

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>her the wrong way. But like I would just pick

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and choose your moments. And also it's an interesting experiment

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to find out when you get annoyed with someone and

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>when somebody starts to grate on your nerves. It's very

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like a nice introspective opportunity to find out what

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>it is that is bothering you about that person? What

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.919
<v Speaker 1>why does this bother me? Like what's underneath that? Yeah?

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 7>No, And I appreciate that so much. I I guess

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 7>that is like ultimately what I'm trying to articulate. I

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 7>feel like I'm fairly accepting. But this has thrown a

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 7>space in the works a little bit. But you're You're

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 7>totally right. And I think as we get older, too,

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 7>like I'm getting to a phase of life where it's

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 7>harder to make friends. It's a little more difficult.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Have you thought about taking up hunting? Mollin can coach

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you on how to hunt on her new show Hunting Wife.

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 3>I can hunt fake wild boar if you want, we

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 3>can go hunting together, you know, with blanks. It's going

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 3>to be super fun. But I do make a me

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 3>and Mark arita, so you know, okay, I do think

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 3>you go and enjoy the flash and the luxury, dip

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 3>in and dip out as much as you want then

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.439
<v Speaker 3>and that's it, and then you'll see you over time

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>if you need to shave the fat and you're like, no,

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.360
<v Speaker 3>not a good friend. Maybe a great friend, but very different,

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 3>and just limit the time.

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Get very acquainted with that mute button on Instagram.

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 4>Like there are people I love in real life and

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 4>I cannot tolerate their social media presence.

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:52.399
<v Speaker 2>And that's okay, it's a different thing.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>But it's also like, if someone is also filming the

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>whole time you're with them, you have every right to go,

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.040
<v Speaker 1>can you please? Like cool it? Like, let's not but

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>we're not, you know, I'm here to spend time with you.

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Like that's totally justifiable. I don't if somebody's constantly filming

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>you or you know, wanting to film themselves that then

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>they're not being present at all. So that that is

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>something you can say, and that's not being judgy, that's

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>being wanting real time, Plus, you don't know how many

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>people you're going to meet through this woman. She sounds

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>like very social and she'll probably introduce you to a

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 1>lot more people who probably feel the same way about

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>her that you do.

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 3>So then you have people.

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Then you can really start talking about her with some

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>other friends. So you have got to look forward to

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>so many bonuses. Yeah, it sounds like fun, Lucy, just

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 1>don't put so much pressure on it, Like it's not

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 1>a romantic relationship, and we shouldn't be putting so much

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:45.240
<v Speaker 1>pressure on our relationships. Tess, have fun and clock yourself

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're being judgmental.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Take it in. I appreciate that.

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, thanks Lucy, thank you, take your look.

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Bye.

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Our next question comes from stu Uh.

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 4>He's thirty two and says Dear Chelsea, straight white male

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 4>father and lover of the podcast, writing in, obviously.

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Dright man is listening to this podcast. We should get

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>a support group for straight men who listened to this podcast,

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.800
<v Speaker 1>because there's I've only got to be like less than ten.

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, a celebration for this.

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Love it.

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<v Speaker 4>So, he says, I've been meaning to reach out for

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.840
<v Speaker 4>a while now, and I'm glad I finally am my partner.

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Hannah was featured in one of your episodes about a

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 2>year ago.

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 4>Everything is amazing between us, and she's not the subject

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 4>of my plea for advice. I have an almost five

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 4>year old son with my ex, who I dated on

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 4>and off for about seven years prior to meeting my

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 4>current partner.

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I left for good about three years ago.

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 4>It was a tumultuous relationship between us from the beginning,

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 4>and with the help of my friends, I was finally

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 4>able to break the cycle. I had four separate apartments

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 4>during our various breaks and broke all of the leases

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 4>to move back in with her, each time into a.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 2>House that I built for her.

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 4>Regardless, things are better than ever at the moment moment,

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 4>but she still needs to be in my life. With

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 4>lawyers and multiple mediations, we were able to come to

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 4>a somewhat copasthetic parenting agreement. However, the reality is anything

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.760
<v Speaker 4>but pleasant. My dilemma is basically, how do I shift

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 4>my perspective for the next eighteen years to probably the

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 4>rest of my life of having to deal with this

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 4>person who's caused me so much trauma and deep, deep pain.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.800
<v Speaker 4>How do I co parent with someone who's unable to

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 4>communicate rationally, a person who exhibits all the classic narcissistic qualities,

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:31.720
<v Speaker 4>we can barely communicate. So the court suggested a parenting

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 4>app and that's what we rely on.

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Currently.

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Being face to face is extremely challenging, as she consistently

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 4>initiates volatle arguments in front of our young son, regardless

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 4>of what I say or do. I feel that I'm

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 4>doing the work on myself to be able to move

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 4>past this and create a future of my dreams with

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 4>my current partner. But what happens when you're bound to

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 4>a person like this for the rest of your life?

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 2>In a nutshell?

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 4>How do I stay sane and create healthy boundaries for

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 4>myself for the foreseeable future and beyond in a seemingly

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 4>impossible situation?

0:47:59.080 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Best?

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Stu Hi, Stu Hi, Hi, This is our special guest,

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Malin Ackerman. Hi.

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:07.879
<v Speaker 3>How you doing good?

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 6>Nice to meet you.

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Nice to meet you too. You have some co parenting experience, Yeah,

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 3>My husband and I we were together eleven years. We

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 3>separated when my son was four months old and only

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 3>spoke through lauryas it was a similar kind of thing.

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 3>I understand narcissistic people more than anyone you would know,

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 3>but it's definitely they are. A narcissist is impossible to

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 3>negotiate with. It's like negotiating with a terrorist. So there's

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 3>you're just never going to just don't ever hope that

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.840
<v Speaker 3>this person is going to come around to anything. But

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 3>you can absolutely shape your own life the way you

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 3>want to. It sounds like you're already on the path

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 3>for that, where you're taking really good care of yourself

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 3>and you're doing your own self work and you've got

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 3>a supportive partner. It sounds like you, guys, can be

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 3>a loving home for your son. There's going to be

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 3>bumps in the road, and you're never going to be

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 3>able to protect your son from the world or life,

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 3>or her or whatever she wants to be saying or doing.

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 3>But as he grows up, my son is now twelve

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 3>years old, the questions start to come and they see things.

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 3>They're very smart and they're very bright, and they take

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 3>things in and they understand what's happening. But unfortunately, I

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 3>wish I knew about this parenting app where you could

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 3>just go on an app and decide everything. That sounds amazing.

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I think stick to that and have as little amount

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 3>of contact with her as possible, and just do the

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.399
<v Speaker 3>kind of drop off and hand off of your son

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 3>and just be there for him, really and for your partner.

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Just take care of yourselves. But there's not much you

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 3>can do when you're dealing with a narcissist. And maybe

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 3>over time it'll start to dissipate, the anger might start

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 3>to dissipate, and the you know, ferocity. But it sounds

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 3>like you're on the right path at least. I don't know, Chelsea,

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 3>what do you have to say.

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I have some experience with this too, surprisingly, dealing with

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>someone who behaves in that way, who creates tons of

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>chaos and then takes absolutely no accountability for it, and

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>they have children and you know, in my life, and

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:04.799
<v Speaker 1>so I totally understand what you're saying. And I think

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>what I would say is there's so much dignity in

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:13.919
<v Speaker 1>not getting down with that behavior, Like, there's so much

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>dignity in remaining separate and never bad mouthing that person

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and never not to your child anyway. Obviously, you can

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>go off on her all you want to your friends

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and family, and you need to, you know, but the

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>app is amazing. I didn't know there was something like that,

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 1>But I think there's so much dignity in not getting

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>into the muck of it and mired in it with

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>your child that once you have like a few years,

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying that you have, but I think

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that in it of itself is an honorable thing and

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 1>an honorable way to react with somebody who's unstable and

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>narcissistic and creates chaos wherever they go. And it's kind

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>of like you're setting an example for your kid to

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>see what the calm is and where the storm is

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>right And so if you're always reliable and you're always

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:07.399
<v Speaker 1>dependable and you're always calm, because a storm can't fight

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>by itself, it just fizzles out. So as long as

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you're keep the engagement to the bear bear bear bear minimum,

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna find somebody else to argue and fight with,

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:20.839
<v Speaker 1>and you know, hopefully that will occupy her time as

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>soon as she like loses the energy that she gets

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 1>from you. And I'm sure you've already done most of this,

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>but I would say, like just continuing through it in

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a dignified way and holding your son's mental health in

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>such a high place like that's more important than anything

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:42.800
<v Speaker 1>is to know and exemplify the kind of behavior that

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you want him to attach to rather than to that behavior,

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, so that there's a contrast and he can see, oh,

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 1>this person's stable, this person's reliable, this person does what

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>they say, this person is dependable, and then there's this.

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.359
<v Speaker 1>So he's going to figure it out because everyone does.

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's definitely not your job to paint the picture

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>for him. It's your job to just show him what

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the opposite of that looks like.

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and that's kind of the only thing that's kept

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 6>me sane in this whole thing, honestly, is just anchoring

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.479
<v Speaker 6>down and really doing that myself. I thought she would

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 6>change when I started dating her, and clearly, you know,

0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 6>that was my bad, and I've learned to not and

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 6>I don't see it happening in the time of the future.

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.879
<v Speaker 6>But one of the main kind of issues that we're

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.440
<v Speaker 6>having at the moment is that obviously he's in a

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 6>lot of school in summer camps now and everything, and

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 6>she's kind of been bad mouthing me to all the

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 6>other parents and the teachers and more or less putting

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 6>everything on me, which I you know, if she wants

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 6>to do that, Go ahead, have fun. It's clear when

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:43.799
<v Speaker 6>you meet me in person that that is not who

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 6>I am. But I just you know, it paints a

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:48.280
<v Speaker 6>bad creature of me, and people look at me differently

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 6>when I come to pick up my son, and you know,

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:53.880
<v Speaker 6>they treat me differently, And how should I deal with that?

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:55.279
<v Speaker 6>Because that is not fun?

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 3>But that's on them. I mean, that's crazy to me

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.720
<v Speaker 3>that people but will just take one side of the story,

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:03.799
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? I feel like that, then

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.319
<v Speaker 3>who are these people? Do really care what they think?

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Do you really care? That's a great point, like there

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 3>are two sides to every story, and if they're not

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.759
<v Speaker 3>willing to hear both sides, then begone with them. You

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:14.839
<v Speaker 3>don't need them yet.

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>But also I would argue they don't even need to

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 1>hear your side because there's one person's tinting tales and

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 1>then there's you that's acting normal and going to pick

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>up your son and being polite and pleasant and engaging

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:27.800
<v Speaker 1>to whomever you can. You don't have to go and

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>convince them that you're the good guy. They're going to

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>figure it out too. Everybody, the person I'm talking about,

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:37.279
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows that this person's off their rocker. Everybody knows.

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to tell anybody. Most people figured it

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:43.919
<v Speaker 1>out on their own. So that's another song and dance

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that you can just eliminate, Like you don't have to

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.279
<v Speaker 1>participate in that. All you have to do is be

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a great dad to your kid. It doesn't matter what

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>these people think of you in the moment. They're all

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>going to figure the same shit out too. And for

0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the other people that want to glom onto the drama

0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:59.760
<v Speaker 1>of the story, there are people that create drama wherever

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:02.839
<v Speaker 1>they go, and people get tired of it. People don't

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>want to be involved in other people's drama endlessly. It

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>sounds fun in the beginning sometimes, but it doesn't go

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>on like that. So I would say it's the same

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 1>advice I would give you with regard to dealing with

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>her directly, and like, just act in a dignified way,

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:18.400
<v Speaker 1>like you are dignified, you're doing the right thing, and

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>just be consistent about all of your behavior. And then

0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 1>then it's just the writings on the wall. It's just

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.320
<v Speaker 1>obvious to everybody, and it doesn't necessarily happen when you

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.760
<v Speaker 1>want to. I know you want to, like defend yourself,

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but don't. There's nothing to defend.

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 6>It has to crash and burn. In my opinion, that's

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.479
<v Speaker 6>the only inevidible outcome is that eventually it's just gonna

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 6>She's gonna do this until you're the many friends left

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 6>or people obviously see.

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>It, Toluly, She'll go through a million friends, that's what

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 1>she'll do. She'll go through a million people.

0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Narcissists burn their bridges wherever they go, and it just happens.

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 3>And if you're like Chelsea, saying's best advice just be

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:54.839
<v Speaker 3>consistent and be dignified and people will see it over time.

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And there's no needs and reason to bad mouth

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>her to anybody, even if you become friends with any

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>of those parents, like all you have to you just

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 1>have to give the look like I don't want to

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>go there. I'm not interested in participating in that kind

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 1>of conversation, you know what I mean, be above it

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>because that is respectable behavior. And when people see that,

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, okay, there's the normal one.

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and it sets us more a part too exact

0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:18.360
<v Speaker 6>exactly what you so.

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's kind of like taking that attitude with

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you in every for the big stuff and the small stuff.

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, you just have to have that attitude. And

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's like every morning you have to meditate for

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes, like I will not react to her today,

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I will not get involved in this drama today and

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:35.720
<v Speaker 1>do that, and before you know it, then that becomes

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 1>your your your second skin. And I mean, you sound

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 1>like you have your shit together anyway, and you've done

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the hardest stuff is behind you. But I can understand

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>how challenging it would be to think of leading this life.

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's gonna start terrorizing another man at some

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>point anyway, So.

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:52.879
<v Speaker 6>You know, I've been through a few, so let's hope

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:53.360
<v Speaker 6>one sticks.

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.520
<v Speaker 1>See, Yeah, you go, but thanks for calling in. And

0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 1>we're so excited to have a straight male caller. I

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you. It'll happen more for sure up here. Okay,

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll take care, Jerius.

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. Bye bye bye. That was sweet.

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I know there's so many See there are such good

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:16.840
<v Speaker 1>guys out there, and that's sweet. Yeah, And you know

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 1>those people like that though, that are so crazy. You know,

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you talk about narcissis and then everything comes up on

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.080
<v Speaker 1>your phone and it's like a narcissist will do this.

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>A narcissist will do this a narcissist. And somebody said

0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to me, I was with this guy I dated. I

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.399
<v Speaker 1>was in Barcelona and when I did this European tour,

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and he was we were talking about narcissist and we

0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 1>went to dinner before and he's an old ex and

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I'm reading this. I was working with

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a psycholiatrist and he has this philosophy that you know,

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 1>every child is a narcissist. Every child is a narcissist

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.400
<v Speaker 1>because they have to learn how to get attention, and

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:48.480
<v Speaker 1>they have to smile, and they have to be funny,

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.720
<v Speaker 1>or they have to create drama. They have to get attention.

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't think that's the right depiction.

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 1>And I go, not every child is a narciss He goes, no,

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.359
<v Speaker 1>every person is a narcissist. And I was like, that's

0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:01.319
<v Speaker 1>not true either. That's just simply not true. And he's like, well,

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you're a narcissist. And I said, I don't have a

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.879
<v Speaker 1>problem with you calling me a narcissist because I don't

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>struggle with that identity, Like I'm not worried about me

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:10.239
<v Speaker 1>being a narcissist, So you can call me that, and

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 1>if you think that that's okay. My opinion of me

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 1>is more important than anyone else's anyway. But like a narcissist,

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:21.520
<v Speaker 1>if you call a narcissist a narcissist, they will argue

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with you about it until the fucking sun goes down,

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And they and and they

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 1>get they get mired in details that have nothing to

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>do with the actual basis of the argument or the conversation.

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>They will talk about the color of the sky and

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 1>disagree with this, and then we'll focus on this, like

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a Narcissists are so toxic to be around, and they

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>exhaust everyone around them and they will never say they're

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>sorry about any of their behavior.

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ever, absolutely, they'll justify it till the cows come home.

0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 3>It's incredible and it's sad, I'm telling you. It's like

0:57:56.920 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 3>it's like talking to it's like trying to negotiate with terrorists,

0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:01.720
<v Speaker 3>like it's we're never going to win this fight, so.

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, And the and the only piece that

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you get is when you stop communicating with that person.

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, stop trying to change them, and like stop

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 4>trying to have those fights. When you start picking no battles,

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:15.160
<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh okay.

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like such a relief.

0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Then they have to go elsewhere for their drama and

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you can they can't find it there, So like it's

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just always better. And and you know, obviously, when

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:26.439
<v Speaker 1>you share a child with somebody, it's not that easy

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to just walk away from somebody and not communicate with them.

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>But this parenting app sounds fucking awesome. I'd like to

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>have an app good, Yeah, to handle a lot of

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:34.400
<v Speaker 1>my relationships.

0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, me too, it would be great. Okay, Well, we'll

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 3>be right back with Malon Akerman.

0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 1>How we're back to wrap things up with Malon Ackerman

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 1>where Okay, we're very excited her show to be used

0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>on July twenty first.

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Is that the date July twenty first on Netflix?

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it on Netflix. It's called So this is even

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a better outcome than you've started with. I think ending

0:58:58.440 --> 0:58:59.560
<v Speaker 1>up on Netflix.

0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Is I think so? Yeah. I mean I think a

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 3>lot more people have Netflix, and so it's kind of

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 3>the og of all the streamers. So it's great. I'm

0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 3>very excited. I'm very excited for the world to see

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 3>this show. I'm also nervous, and you know, there's lots

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 3>of feelings around it, but ultimately, I just think that

0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.600
<v Speaker 3>it's a really fun show. I think people are gonna

0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 3>love it. I think it's going to be a big hit.

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks, I hope so so yes, it's called Hunting Wives.

0:59:24.920 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Everybody premieres July twenty first on Netflix.

0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Mallin. I hope I see you soon. I'm

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you when I'm in La this summer.

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Are you?

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Are you based in La?

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Now? I'm based in La, but of course I'm we're

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 3>going way with summer. But we go to Europe for

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 3>the summer. We go to Sweden and England and visit

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 3>family and stuff like that, so we'll be gone for

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 3>a bit of it. All right.

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll figure out a time to hook up at

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:45.320
<v Speaker 1>some point.

0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be awesome. It's so nice to chat

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 3>with you.

0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Congrats on everything.

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:53.439
<v Speaker 3>Thanks any thank you? All right, nice talking to you both.

0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, my remaining dates for Vegas, there are remaining dates

0:59:57.840 --> 1:00:03.320
<v Speaker 1>for this year. Summertime time is coming and I will

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:07.600
<v Speaker 1>be in Vegas at the Cosmo doing my residency on

1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:12.720
<v Speaker 1>August thirtieth, and then November one and twenty ninth. November

1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:16.200
<v Speaker 1>one and November twenty ninth, I will be in Las

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