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Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine, it's Thursday. Hi Chelsea, It's Thursday and I'm

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy to have you here.

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Speaker 3: Finally. I know Doug.

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Speaker 1: Has a mountain man here too. Now. I told Felix,

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Speaker 1: I was like, listen, you have to take into the

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Speaker 1: mountains every morning. So he picks him lap and he

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Speaker 1: takes him to Los Montaigne's. But it's so sad the dirt.

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Speaker 1: Like he sends me videos of Doug and it's just dirt,

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Speaker 1: white ray dirt. He went from Whistler where it's verdant

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Speaker 3: Snowy and yeah, well it wasn't snowy.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere, but like you know, lakes and now there's pictures.

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Speaker 1: He sends me a video yesterday. I'm like, is that

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Speaker 3: That thing? He looks at him.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. So yeah, I'm like he's

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Speaker 1: living a different lifestyle for sure.

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Speaker 4: You know what, there are new smells here. He's you know,

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Speaker 4: having some variety to Yeah, love variety.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we do love variety. I added

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Speaker 1: a new show to my West Hampton show. The first

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Speaker 1: one sold out, so I added a show August twenty first.

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Speaker 1: Now and twenty second, I will be in West Hampton performing,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm doing the I'm headlining the Rochester Fringe

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Speaker 1: Festival that's in September, and I am doing Napa Valley

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Speaker 1: and that's on October third. I'm doing Napa Valley some

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Speaker 1: big winery, so that's going to be beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And of course we had so much fun at

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Speaker 5: your Vegas show.

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Speaker 1: Vega, we gambled everyone.

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Speaker 3: We didn't.

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Speaker 1: You didn't win in the minute, but you won when

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Speaker 1: you went to the slots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I went to the slots and I like put in

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Speaker 4: fifteen dollars.

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Speaker 1: I can see you winning at the slots, cap.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love a penny slot, like lady.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would never waste my time at the slots because

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Speaker 1: that's just like I need more banks. But this weekend

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Speaker 1: I started betting bigger. I started betting like four or

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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars around yeah.

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Speaker 3: And it worked right hand.

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Speaker 1: And when it was working, so I left with three

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars more than I started.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you were brave betting, you were like thrown up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also supplied again. I supplied everybody with

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Speaker 1: their gambling money and they all lost.

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Speaker 3: Well no, not everybody lost. No.

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Speaker 1: I mean the bottom line is I never see that

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Speaker 1: money again. But if I walk away with it, it's

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Speaker 1: like I've given away money and I'm walking away with

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Speaker 1: more than I started within.

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Speaker 3: That's a win.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a win for everybody. Everyone's happy.

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Speaker 4: And then also like people are gambling because there's just

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Speaker 4: like you.

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Speaker 1: Know, there's a fun energy around gambling.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really good time. It's really good.

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Speaker 1: I go to the same table every time after the show.

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Speaker 1: Doug was there. Doug was gambling because he's my meg king.

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Speaker 1: Well he's your lucky charm, he's my king. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I win without him. He is definitely not my lucky charm.

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Speaker 1: He's definitely not. I'm staying with my friend Cat right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and she has a little o balloompa dog. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what kind it is, but it's a small

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know what that type is, but.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not of interest to me, but Doug.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny when they play because Doug is obviously

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, that isn't a chew toy. No, like,

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Speaker 3: That's not a toy.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I know, so poor little Luna, she's a

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Speaker 1: She's like, I'm like, he's rough stuff.

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Speaker 3: Thank god. He's not a rapist though.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, not a humper.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to try to hump.

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Speaker 1: His friend Sally in Canada. But that was you know that,

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Speaker 1: that was okay because she's a friend of mine and

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Speaker 5: But he's like fix and everything, right, He just no,

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Speaker 3: A dog that's not fixed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, hello, that's just one more thing

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 3: Afford to deal with. Right, they just do it. Sometimes.

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Speaker 3: My friend Kat and.

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Speaker 1: I, Well, Cat's a good cook, so she's been cooking

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Speaker 1: for me because my house, of course is still.

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Speaker 2: Not No, of course not, of course, I house is.

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Speaker 1: Still not ready. Can you fucking believe it? I scheduled

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Speaker 1: my entire European tour and my entire European travels to

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Speaker 1: come home to a house home, and it's still not ready. Oh,

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Speaker 1: speaking of which, ICE, we have a lot of groups

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Speaker 1: to donate to that I am that I aggregated, so

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Speaker 1: let's add those, like different organizations you can donate to

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Speaker 1: for families being affected by ICE. You could donate to

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Speaker 1: to organizations that are helping feed them and are helping

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Speaker 1: them legal fees, legal fees, and also to help them

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Speaker 1: There's like five or six donation spots that I found

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Speaker 3: So let's do that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, If you want to donate to families who are

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Speaker 4: affected by ice and immigration issues. Here are a few

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Speaker 4: places that you can donate. So one place you can

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Speaker 4: support is the Immigrant Defender's Law Center and we'll put

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Speaker 4: a link in the bio. They're a next generation social

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Speaker 4: justice law firm that defends immigrant communities against injustices. Jail

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Speaker 4: Support LA. It's a grassroots collective dedicated to supporting anti

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Speaker 2: La Unjon del.

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Speaker 4: Barrio is an organization that defends Mexican and Latin American community.

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Speaker 4: They have been organizing a lot of protests and teach

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Speaker 4: CHARLA is the Coalition for Human Immigration Rights and empowers

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Speaker 4: immigrants to push policies that promote freedom of movement, full

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Speaker 4: human rights, vigorous civic action, and strengthens democracy. When Vesino

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Speaker 4: is an in person responder training being held on July

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Speaker 4: twenty fifth, and it's in Moore Park, California, So if

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Speaker 4: you want to attend that, we'll put a link in

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Speaker 4: the bio. Eight PHO five UNDOCU fund provides funds and

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Speaker 4: support for immigrants Mixed Techo supports organizes and empowers the

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Speaker 4: indigenous migrant communities in California's Central Coast, and these raids,

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Speaker 4: illegal and immigration raids continue to happen. So any support

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, and we have a great guest today, an

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Speaker 1: old friend of mine who is in a new show.

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Speaker 1: And the new show is called Hunting Wives on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: It's not to be confused with hunting husbands or hunting

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Speaker 1: four husbands. It's hunting wives and figure that one out.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Malin Ackerman. Hi, honey, Hi, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I was just talking about my bunyan surgery. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: at July fifth, so much fun, so I know, I

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Speaker 1: can't wait.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually excited. I'm excited for you a month off

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Speaker 1: and just lying around my house, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it won't even be a month like you'll be

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Speaker 3: up and if you want till, you can be up.

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Speaker 3: But otherwise, just milk it.

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Speaker 7: I milked it for as long as I could, even

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Speaker 7: though I could walk after a week.

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Speaker 3: And you could walk? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Did you do physical therapy after?

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Speaker 3: But I was in a boot. Obviously I wasn't walking

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Speaker 3: But I think we went to Vegas two weeks after

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Speaker 3: where you put your knee on it, and you like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, what Vegas was intended for?

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Speaker 1: That in Disney World and when people roll around in

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Speaker 1: Disney World, Yeah, all you're missing is a drumstick, like

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Speaker 1: one of those giant turkey drumsticks. Okay, mallin. First of all,

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Speaker 1: when did I see you last? I saw you at

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Speaker 3: Right Guy's house. Yeah, it was probably three am in

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Speaker 3: the morning, dancing on the glasser. Yeah, he felt great.

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Speaker 1: I think I was looking for my purse for about

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Speaker 1: four hours at that party.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever find it?

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Speaker 3: It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's the story of my life. Some strange person just

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Speaker 1: Because I was going around the party asking people, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: to get my driver and I'm alone, Like I came

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Speaker 1: have you been looking for your purse? And I was like,

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Speaker 3: And do you know who that person is? You have

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Speaker 3: that's Anaean in the world.

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Speaker 7: We like that.

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Speaker 3: It was a fun party.

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Speaker 1: It was It's always fun, right, although last year was

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Speaker 1: a little bit too my hectic, and I remember talking

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Speaker 1: to guy. I'm like, don't let anybody into that party,

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Speaker 3: It gets nuts, but you kind of get lost, like

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Speaker 3: you get your little pockets of like I'm always on

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Speaker 3: the dance so I love to dance. So my husband

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Speaker 3: and I are the same, and so we're always on

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Speaker 3: the dance flore until our feet can't take it anymore,

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Speaker 3: and you feel like you find your little pockast and

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Speaker 3: I'm doing the shuffle with Miles Teller and then you

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Speaker 3: and having the flast.

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Speaker 7: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly the kind of impression I want to leave

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Speaker 1: people with. I remember the last time we were hanging out,

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Speaker 1: this was many, many years ago. You had just had

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Speaker 1: I like his attitude all lost.

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Speaker 1: at you go.

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Speaker 3: Margot Banks, who is the character that I play as

441
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Speaker 3: you saw, is probably one of the favorite characters that

442
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 3: I've ever played. Talk about like living in her own

443
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,639
Speaker 3: power right, just like taking whatever she wants. She is

444
00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,800
Speaker 3: master manipulator. She is Lady Macbeth behind the scenes, just

445
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,119
Speaker 3: with her puppeteering. Super fun to play, you know. All

446
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,920
Speaker 3: the cast was It's one of those dream scenarios where

447
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 3: everything kind of fell in place. I mean at first

448
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,639
Speaker 3: when I read the script, I then gave it to

449
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,240
Speaker 3: my husband and I was like, am I this person?

450
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,040
Speaker 3: Can I do this?

451
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Speaker 6: Like?

452
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,240
Speaker 3: Should I do this? Is this crazy? It is nuts?

453
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,960
Speaker 3: And he read it and he went, oh my god,

454
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 3: are you kidding me this? You have to do this.

455
00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,760
Speaker 3: It's literally his fantasy is this whole show? But yeah,

456
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,680
Speaker 3: she is. She is something to be reckoned with. But

457
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,600
Speaker 3: the beauty of it, because you only set three episodes,

458
00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,359
Speaker 3: it gets there's so many twists and turns that are

459
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Speaker 3: coming your way. By the end, you can't even believe

460
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 3: where it's taken you. And that's what the fun part is.

461
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Speaker 3: About it is that.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see that there's a lot happening, and yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: that's a lot that's going to happen. Oh, this is exciting.

464
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Speaker 2: This is AWESO coming out.

465
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Speaker 3: All eight episodes get dropped all at the same time

466
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Speaker 3: on July twenty first, So you know, okay, corn and

467
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 3: sit for eight hours straight and watch this crazy show.

468
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

469
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Speaker 1: So it's basically let's give a synopsis of the show.

470
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,880
Speaker 1: It's basically this. Brittany's snow is also in the show,

471
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 1: and she basically moves I think from the East coast

472
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Speaker 1: to East Texas.

473
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Speaker 3: Is that right? That's right, small little made uptown in

474
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Speaker 3: East Texas where Margo Banks and her husband Jed Banks

475
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 3: are basically like the queen Bee and the soon to

476
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Speaker 3: be governor of this little town.

477
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Speaker 1: Who's played by Dermot mulrooney.

478
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Speaker 3: That's right, dream vote he's Oh my god, he's such

479
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 3: a nice suff here into chemistry together. I love that man.

480
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a great guy. And it's such a great

481
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 1: role for you. I like, I love seeing you in

482
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,919
Speaker 1: a lead role and being this kind of master puppettier.

483
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: Like I love watching that and I love seeing you

484
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 1: shine in that way. So congratulations, thank you.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so much fun. It really is, like if

486
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 3: you like Big Little Eyes and Yellowstone, it's like they

487
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 3: have a baby and this is it, you know, So

488
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 3: it's it's salacious and fun and sexy and wild. Do

489
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 3: you get how do you deal with having sex scenes

490
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,640
Speaker 3: with different people?

491
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: Is that an issue?

492
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 3: Like?

493
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Speaker 1: What do you do to prepare for those?

494
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Speaker 3: Well, the thing is is that, you know, we have

495
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 3: intimacy coordinators nowadays, which is a saving grace. I love

496
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 3: it so much because you have this person who comes

497
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 3: to you know, if it's me and Brittany having a

498
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: scene together, she'll talk to us separately and say, all right,

499
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 3: what are you guys comfortable with? What do you want

500
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Speaker 3: to show? What do you not want to show?

501
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 7: What?

502
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,199
Speaker 3: Like? What are we doing here? And then we come

503
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 3: in together and do rehearsals just like stunt choreography. She

504
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 3: actually used to our intimacy coordinator used to be a

505
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 3: stunt choreographer, which is awesome and she was the best.

506
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,239
Speaker 3: And so it's like doing choreography. You get it all

507
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 3: settled and then you show your director and they sign

508
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: off on it. So when you go to set that day,

509
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 3: you know exactly what you're doing. There are no surprises,

510
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 3: nobody's doing anything different. We both feel comfortable with what

511
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 3: we're doing. And I want to say comfortable. It's still

512
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 3: not like whoo, this is going to be great. It's

513
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: still weird. You know, you're still there with the crew

514
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 3: and cameras. It's never what it looks like on screen.

515
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 3: Is it's never as intimate as we make it look.

516
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: But it's very respectful and it's very well organized and

517
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Speaker 3: directed and taken care of.

518
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Speaker 7: So you know.

519
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Speaker 1: I once did a movie like I don't remember what

520
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: it was even called, and I had to kiss this

521
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: guy and I was like, I can't. I cann't kiss him.

522
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't kiss this person. And the

523
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: director's like, you just have to kiss him on the lips,

524
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: like it can be short, like it just has to

525
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: look like you're about like you're about to start making out.

526
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't, I can't do it, like I'm

527
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: not attracted to him. He's like, I know, but this

528
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 1: is not real life. You're acting, and I'm like, which

529
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: is why I'm not an actress. I'm like, I can't

530
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: make out with a man. And the whole time I

531
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: just wanted him to be yelling cut before he yelled

532
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 1: it like the whole time, I was like black. Yeah,

533
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: I had such a childish reaction to being to be

534
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: having to act in like a romantic setting where where

535
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't really attracted him. So do you ever have

536
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: those types of feelings where you're like, I want this

537
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: to be over.

538
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: I think I've suppressed it so far down it's been

539
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: so long, doing it for so long that you just

540
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: pull up your bootstraps and go. But no, you know,

541
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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, there hasn't been I haven't I've

542
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: I had one once, I gotta say. And this was

543
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: in the very beginning of my career, before I even

544
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 3: came out to Hollywood, and I had to do a

545
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: like a kiss with it guy. It was nothing like

546
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: it wasn't even a makeout thing, but he there was.

547
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Speaker 3: He was one of those like off camera just wasn't

548
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 3: a nice guy, like wasn't a great guy. So I

549
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: just didn't like him very much. And not only that,

550
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: but he decided to eat sidziki, which has tons of

551
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: garlic in it, right at lunch, right before our scene.

552
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 3: So not only did I not like him, he smelt

553
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 3: like garlic and I had to kiss him and I

554
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: was like, oh, everything about it. And that was very

555
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 3: early on in my career, so I didn't know how

556
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: to handle it. But yes, that was one moment where

557
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: I was like, no, please, just cold cut. But otherwise

558
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: it's it's I've had a beautiful experience and most of

559
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: the people that I've worked with, I've just really enjoyed,

560
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: and it's been you kind of when you're in that character.

561
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: You go into it and you feel like that character,

562
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: and of course once they call cut, you feel silly

563
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: and awkward and're like, hey, how's your wife? Everything good

564
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: at home? Great? It is a very strange thing. And

565
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: if you're not in the acting world and you don't

566
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: do it, I can understand people on the outside going wow,

567
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: how do you do that? But I guess you get

568
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: used to it. I guess you do it in character.

569
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess right, you would do it in character.

570
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: But do you feel a sense of like you must

571
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: feel a sense of responsibility to make the other actor,

572
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: whether it's a woman or a man or anything in between,

573
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: do you feel responsible for making the other person feel comfortable?

574
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: And I think both both parties, and that's been in

575
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: my experience ninety nine percent of the time is that

576
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: both parties, myself and the other party are just super

577
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 3: respectful and considerate. And you know, as soon as they

578
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: call cut it like hey, are you okay? Are you good?

579
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: You know, I have some scenes with George Ferrier in

580
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: this in this show, and he plays a nineteen year

581
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: old boy, but he's in his early twenties and we

582
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: have a relationship that's of a sexual nature. And of

583
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: course everything was treated just as it would with the

584
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: intimacy Cordy. It was beautiful, it was lovely, respectful. But

585
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: after every shot, I would be like I felt like

586
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: a mother. Tim was like, are you okay, yourn you

587
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: need some water? Do you need some Like can I

588
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: get you anything?

589
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry?

590
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: Or are you welcome? I don't know what to say

591
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: right now, but it was just really to say that,

592
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 3: like it's just been a lovely experience, and yes, you

593
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: I think everyone is super considerate in those situations.

594
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: There's a great shot of you pulling up on a

595
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: jet ski. First of all, your wardrobe is awesome because everybody, yeah,

596
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean I get to comment on women's bodies, but

597
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: your body's just ridiculous, and your legs go off for

598
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: miles and miles and miles, and you should always just

599
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: be in a bathing suit because you should be showing

600
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: that body off. Fine, she pulls up on a jet

601
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: ski on this beach to pick up Brittany, and it's

602
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: so funny because it's just like, you know, you're on

603
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: the hut. Basically, it's like a Baywatch moment. Yeah, totally,

604
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: it's totally like a Baywatch moment. But yeah, I just

605
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: like seeing you kind of command a show. It's very

606
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: nice to see that.

607
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: I'm definitely enjoying it, and I have to say, you know,

608
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 3: you've earned that. Thank you. I feel like I've earned

609
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: it too. But I also feel like this character, I

610
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: love sitting in the power of what it is sometimes

611
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: to be female and what it is to use that

612
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: and weld that power. Not that I would ever use

613
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: it the way she does, but it's fun to play

614
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: that because you go, women really have this power, not

615
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: that it should be used in this way, but wow,

616
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: is it ever fun to exercise that in a role

617
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: And it is really just juicy And it was I

618
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: felt the same about my role in Billions, where she

619
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: was just this powerful character. And I love women in

620
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: power like that, whether they're using it for good or bad.

621
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: It's just fun to play.

622
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: It's also fun to examine that because men men can

623
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: be so powerful with almost no power, you know, like

624
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: they don't really have any real power necessarily, and they

625
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: present as they do just because of the nature of

626
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: society and you know, the way things have shaken out

627
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: thus far. But women really are the powerful ones, Like,

628
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: we have so much inside of us. So whenever there

629
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: are people that call into the podcast, which you'll experience shortly, like,

630
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: there's so many women who are unaware of the power

631
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: that lies within them.

632
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: And totally it's our job as.

633
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: Women who are more mature and have the wisdom and

634
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: experience to know that it's so important to inject women

635
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: with that vibe, you know, to make sure everyone knows

636
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: how powerful you are. Like I was with this I

637
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: was with this young couple of yesterday doing something and

638
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: we were filming something and they were just so traditional, right,

639
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: and they were like talking about getting married and they

640
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: were I was in their apartment in New York City

641
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: and they were so young, and they were both adorable

642
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: and sweet and kind of innocent, but they weren't even

643
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: thirty and she's just I just could tell, like, oh, this.

644
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 3: Girl really wants to marry this guy.

645
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: And he wants to marry and they think this is

646
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: it and you know it probably or may will be,

647
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: who knows. But also why why is it necessary to

648
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: you know? Especially I mean, you know that because you've

649
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: been through, you know, a first marriage. But I want

650
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: women to know, like life just keeps getting better and

651
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: better as you get older, and the more wisdom we acquire,

652
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: the sexier life becomes, and the more like possibilities, and like,

653
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: don't limit your possibilities for the world.

654
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: A hundred and that you know, Chelsea, that's why I

655
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: love you so much. And what you put out there

656
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: in the world in your comedy and your voice, you

657
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: just it shows women that you can. You can be vocal,

658
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: and you can be out there, and you can be confident,

659
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: and you can do whatever the fuck you want, like

660
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: skiing and and be key because we can. But I

661
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: just think that it is so important for women to

662
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: understand that our voices can and should be heard. And

663
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: it's okay, not every I had to go through a

664
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: lot of work of I was, I still am. It's

665
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 3: still in me a people pleaser, but I realized that

666
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: people pleasing is actually just a way to control other people.

667
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: So it's not a really nice thing. It's just I

668
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 3: need to control their emotions so that they don't make

669
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: me feel a certain way. So instead I had to

670
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: start learning how to say no and standing up for

671
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: myself and being okay with the fact that some people

672
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: might think that I'm a bitch, or some people might

673
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: think that whatever they want to think, but I have

674
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: to align myself with what's true to me and how

675
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: I feel. And the same goes with relationships. Like when

676
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: I met my husband, I was like, I'm not a

677
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: finished product yet. You know, I just went through divorce,

678
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: I just had a kid, Like, I don't really know

679
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: who I am right now. So who you're getting right

680
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: now is not who I'm going to be in ten

681
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: years from now. So if you want to enter into

682
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: this as a relationship, cool. It may or may not work,

683
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: but we can give it our best shot, and that's

684
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: fun and that's great. Now he happens to be the

685
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: best partner ever, which I didn't expect. I really thought

686
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: he was just going to be a little romp in

687
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: the sack and then he's going back to England. But

688
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: it didn't turn out that way. He stayed. But I

689
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: think it's really important and it's really hard, and it's

690
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: a really long journey. And I feel like I'm only

691
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: stepping into myself in my forties, you know, and who

692
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: I want to be and understanding myself and being confident

693
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: enough to take those steps to living more authentically to

694
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: who I am, and whoever doesn't want to be part

695
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: of that just isn't going to be in my life.

696
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 1: And that's okay, right, And that the stage of your

697
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: life that you're in when you meet somebody is not

698
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: a fixed state, Like you're not going to be that

699
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: way forever. None of us are. We'll always evolving or devolving.

700
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Or sometimes you go through a rough patch and you

701
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: know you're not at your best, and that could happen

702
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: at any time in your life. Even when you feel

703
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: like you've gotten all figured out, then something can like

704
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, kind of throw you and you're like, oh shit,

705
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: this isn't me operating on my A plus plus self.

706
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: But that's okay, Like to give yourself the grace that, Okay,

707
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: this is a rough patch, I'm going to get through it.

708
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: Because I've gotten through everything else that has come my

709
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: way in my life and this is just another something

710
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: I didn't expect. As you said when we started talking today,

711
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: that you can't really plan, you know, your life. So

712
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: when I see these young people planning their futures and

713
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: I've got to marry this by this age and i

714
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: want to have this many kids by this age, I'm like,

715
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: oh God, throw that all out the window. You can

716
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: have your kids, and you can have your husband, but

717
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: like it doesn't have to be at like these little

718
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: tent poles, like in order an arrangement, And I.

719
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: Feel like that sets you up for a disappointment instead

720
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: of just going, let's see what happens.

721
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take a break and we'll be right back

722
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: with Malin Ackerman.

723
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: And we're back with Mallin. What's your husband's name, Jack,

724
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: Jack Darley? Oh yeah, I love British guys, you know. Yeah,

725
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: Well we'll find you a young one, you know, I know, yes,

726
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: next up, put the word out.

727
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 7: I like that.

728
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: That's usually where I have most of my hookups, is London.

729
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're super fun and like just a blast,

730
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: you know.

731
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

732
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: I'll ask my husband if he has any good, real

733
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: good ones that are single.

734
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: Okay, please do, please do, Catherine, What do we have

735
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: in store for us?

736
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: Well, we can start with an easy one, so Jessica says,

737
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea. I'm a twin sister, and my mom and

738
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: aunt are also twins. My mom is one of nine and.

739
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: Has six sisters.

740
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: All that to say, sisterhood is a huge value I

741
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: hold and has always been a major part of my

742
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: life due to work, which is a good thing and

743
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: an opportunity I'm related for. I'm going to be moving

744
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: to the West Coast from the East Coast, and my

745
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: big question is about my twin sister. She's had some

746
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: recent challenges in her life, and I'm so worried about

747
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 4: quote abandoning her or feeling like I'm moving on without

748
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: her across the country. She's also a badass and is

749
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: in no way in trouble like where she's reliant on me. However,

750
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: emotionally and with her.

751
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: Self confidence, she's in a rut right now.

752
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if you have any tips and tricks on

753
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: how you keep in touch with your sisters that are

754
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: in different time zones than you, and also how to

755
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: help them grow and navigate the challenges they might be

756
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: facing while you aren't there physically. Finally, one last question

757
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: is whether you prioritize certain events to be there in

758
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: person with them versus those are okay with not being

759
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: physically there. For kind regards to Jess, well, how many

760
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: sisters do you have?

761
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: Balin, I have two half sisters and one half brother,

762
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: so and they're all over the place. I mean, we

763
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: grew up in different countries. They grew up in Sweden,

764
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: My brother and I grew up in Canada, and I

765
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: moved out here when I was twenty two, so I've

766
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: only experienced long distance relationships with my siblings. And if anything,

767
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: I think you cherish your time together even more when

768
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: you do see each other. And I think with all

769
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: the technology that we have nowadays, I mean, all of

770
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: my besties are somewhere in Costa Rica, some are in Canada,

771
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: some are in Sweden. We keep in touch all the time,

772
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: and when you get together it's like no time is past.

773
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: I think the people that you're closest to you work

774
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: it out. It works it self out. And yes, I

775
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: think you should go and be there for milestones and

776
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: big events and whatnot. And you know, make time for that.

777
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: But it sounds like this woman is saying, you know,

778
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: her sister's a badass and she's going to figure it out.

779
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: You can be there from a distance time zone totally.

780
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: It's just three hours difference. It's not that bad.

781
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: I don't feel like any sort of distance is prohibitive

782
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: to maintaining a relationship with somebody that you care about deeply,

783
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 1: especially your sisters. There's texting, there's face time, there's zooms.

784
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: You can like schedule calls. You can text and say

785
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: want to hop on the phone, you can FaceTime, you

786
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: can do all those totally, and just make sure that

787
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: your presence is known and available, that you're making yourself available.

788
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing for any relationship

789
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: that you care about, is that you're you know when

790
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: when you hear from your sister, that you're your responsive,

791
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: that you get back to her in a nice fashion.

792
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Not like I hate when this doesn't happen to me

793
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: and my sisters or siblings, but like, you know, if

794
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: someone texts you, you should text them back that day.

795
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm really good on text. I'm less good on email,

796
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm text is more immediate to me,

797
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: But there are some people who don't text back for

798
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: fucking four or five days, and I'm like, what what

799
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: kind of app do you?

800
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 6: Like?

801
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: How does that show up on your phone? But I think,

802
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: especially if you're worried about somebody, you just make sure

803
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: that your presence is understood for for the other person,

804
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: and make sure that you're checking in, going you know, hey,

805
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: what's up, and asking questions that lead somewhere rather than

806
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: going how are you? How's it going?

807
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? What it like more specific like what did you

808
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 3: do today?

809
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Who were you? You know, did you have a good weekend?

810
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: Would did you do anything fun?

811
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 6: Like?

812
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just like try to engage in a

813
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: way that requires a response, so you can kind of

814
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: measure how your sister is doing rather than just checking

815
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: in in a kind of banal way.

816
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, open ended questions that let her kind of

817
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 3: figure it out on her own, but you're there holding

818
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: the space. I think is really important. Yeah.

819
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: Something that's helpful for me too is like having a

820
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: regular call. So it's like my mom every Friday, we

821
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: know what time we're talking, and like sometimes it has

822
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: to move by a day or we skip a week

823
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: or whatever, but having that.

824
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Time on the calend just so we know, like it.

825
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: It makes it a lot more regular than.

826
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good idea.

827
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it really depends on your personality type,

828
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: Like I would never stick to something like that, but

829
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: I think that's if you're if you are organized in

830
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: your sisters organize, then that's great.

831
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice to have something to look forward to

832
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

833
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: Especially you can also put it on you like I'm

834
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: moving away, I'm going to miss you, you know, like,

835
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: don't make it about checking in on her. You make

836
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: it presented as like I hate being this far away

837
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: from you, or I need to make sure we have

838
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: a check in for my sanity.

839
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I don't know if you guys ever did

840
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: this during COVID, but like you do the zooms where

841
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: you like happy hour zooms and you bring grab your

842
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: cocktail and you sit and have happy hour together. You

843
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: can do that from before. You can do so many

844
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: things with technology nowadays.

845
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Those are the only kind of zooms I had, Even

846
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: if the other people on the zooms weren't having happy hour,

847
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: even if it was a work call, I was drinking.

848
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Was like okay, yeah, I'm like everyone's whoom, and that

849
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: means everyone needs to start drinking.

850
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 7: Well.

851
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 2: Our next question comes from Lucy.

852
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: She says, Dear Chelsea, I've recently become close friends with someone,

853
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: and while our friendship sparked quickly, I'm now questioning if

854
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: we're truly compatible or if I'm just being a hater.

855
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: She's fiery, outspoken, and unapologetically flashy, think bold, designer fits

856
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: and luxury everything. I, on the other hand, lean more

857
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: toward quiet, luxury and a calmer energy. We share a

858
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: meaningful bond. We both grew up in fairly turbulent homes

859
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: and we've both worked hard to break out of that,

860
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: so there's a sisterhood there.

861
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: But sometimes I find her behavior grating.

862
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: There's a subtle superiority vibe that creeps in, and it

863
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 4: stirs something competitive in me that I don't love. I

864
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: pride myself on being grounded and accepting, but this dynamic

865
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: has me questioning whether I'm being too judgmental or if

866
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: deep down we're just not besty material long term. So

867
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: my question is, how do you tell the difference between

868
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: being incompatible and being insecure? Is it okay to love

869
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: someone but not like all of them? Respectfully, Lucy.

870
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean this is a hard lesson to

871
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: learn for me, I know, because I want everyone to

872
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: be like one hundred percent of the things I like.

873
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: I don't like the negatives, But that doesn't happen in life.

874
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Like everyone's gonna have the thing that greats. You're on

875
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: your nerves when you spend too much time with somebody

876
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: or enough time with somebody, and you don't have to

877
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: like diagnose the relationship to best the best friend that

878
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: you'll ever have in your life, Like a friendship is

879
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: give and take the fact that she's so much different

880
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: than you is a good thing, Like that's exciting, Like

881
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: that's a good way for you to be less narrow minded.

882
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, if we just become friends with people who

883
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: are like us, then we're not really learning that much

884
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: and we're not we're actually being very judgmental. So I

885
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: think it's always a good exercise to be friends with

886
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: people that kind of take you out of your comfort zone.

887
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: And then when you are feeling judgmental, something I do

888
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: is like, why do I feel judgmental?

889
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: Right now?

890
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: What is it about this behavior that is making me

891
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: act like this? Because I don't want to be judgmental.

892
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: I want to be open minded, you know, or if

893
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: somebody's grating on my nerves, that's usually something about yourself

894
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: rather than something about the other person, because you shouldn't

895
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: somebody shouldn't annoy you that much that you're friends with,

896
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Like you don't need to spend that much time with

897
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: them if they're kind of annoying that does that add

898
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: up to you totally?

899
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: Totally?

900
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 7: I yeah, I think it's it's definitely this difficulty right

901
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 7: of like, it's a harsh world. Being human, it's very difficult.

902
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 7: So I'm I'm super receptive and open to the fact

903
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 7: that we have so many different ways of going through

904
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 7: life and it's such a layered experience. Yeah, it's obviously insecurity.

905
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 7: Is there a little incompatibility in the sense of maybe

906
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 7: we don't need to be super close? Is this a

907
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 7: loose acquaintance? Do you have these people in your life?

908
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I think so.

909
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think, you know, I read a book that

910
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: John Cleese and his therapist wrote. I studying psychology in school.

911
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: I thought that was gonna be my path and I

912
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: remember it so vividly because what I loved about it

913
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: was in relationships any relationship, romantic or friendship. You get

914
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: attracted to people that have these you know, you have

915
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 3: these sliding doors that are you know, the mosquito net

916
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: doors right and behind those doors are things about yourself

917
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: that you haven't shared or that are maybe subconscious or

918
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: like the DNA and the fiber of who you are,

919
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: and the other person has the same thing. And you

920
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: get attracted to somebody because of the things that are

921
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: behind those doors, and then when they start to come out,

922
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: it's because you're meant to share those things and learn

923
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: from them and grow from them. And growth can be uncomfortable.

924
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: So this can might be one of those situations where

925
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: there's stuff that's getting stirred up from behind those doors

926
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 3: for you and it's uncomfortable. But maybe you've met this

927
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: person's that you have to face those things and look

928
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: at them. And like Chelsea said, like why am I

929
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: feeling this way? And what about vocalizing it and saying hey,

930
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: you know sometimes when you do this it makes me

931
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: feel like this is the onus is on me right

932
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: now and I'm just trying to figure myself out. Yeah,

933
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: but I just wanted to let you know, maybe we

934
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: could have a conversation about it. Maybe I don't know,

935
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: you know, what's in it for you to lose? Really,

936
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: I did that with my husband when I first met him,

937
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is how I'm feeling. These

938
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: are the things that I'm afraid of, and these I'm

939
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: going to tell you a few things. And if you

940
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: leave and walk away because you think that's terrible, then

941
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: leave and walk away. And I guess I'm going to

942
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: have to take that. But I need to be honest

943
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: now and start speaking from an honest place. So if

944
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: you're feeling uncomfortable in situations or she does something that

945
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: feels weird, address it in a diplomatic, beautiful way that

946
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: opens a conversation.

947
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: Maybe what's an example of something that she does that

948
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: gives you kind of like cringe feelings?

949
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, yeah, I was thinking about this. There's definitely

950
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 7: this this social media element to it, all right. Because

951
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 7: it was just a physical experience of us hanging out,

952
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 7: it's more subdued. But on social media, I think I

953
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 7: just have like this status signaling fatigue. And you know,

954
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 7: in this day and of influencers, of course, it's usually

955
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 7: more like indirect and they're trying to it's a little

956
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 7: more modest, humble, you know whatever, And so I kind

957
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 7: of am like, okay, go you for my friend because

958
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 7: she's a little more just like direct, like this is

959
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 7: how it is. I'm excited about. This also rubs me

960
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 7: the wrong way, but I think it's a general fatigue though.

961
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 7: But I will give one example. So they recently got

962
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 7: a little a little boat, and in the post, she's

963
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 7: steering the boat with big old ring left. Uh but

964
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 7: I know, I know she's right handed. You know, I'm like,

965
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 7: are you steering that boat with your left hand? Right right?

966
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 7: You know, just silly little things like that where it's

967
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 7: it's not as so it's a massive deal. It just

968
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 7: puts me off a little bit.

969
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair thing to say, Yeah, don't

970
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: you ball in, and like, yeah, I think that is

971
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: because that is kind of not true. Is she's presenting

972
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: something that's you know, and it's very showy. And while

973
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: you can accept that as a part of her personality

974
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: that she's showy, like you have to understand that's who

975
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: she is, but there is something about like presenting something

976
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: that's not true. But I mean I wouldn't pick that

977
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: example because it can be that's pretty like granular. You

978
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: can say to someone it makes me uncomfortable how showy

979
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: you can be. You can say that, go that's me,

980
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: that's me personally. I don't want to prohibit your behavior,

981
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't make me feel It makes me

982
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: feel weird, like it's hard for me to watch a

983
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: little bit like that. That can come up organically at

984
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: some point. But you also don't have to label exactly

985
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: what type of friend this person is to you, Like

986
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: when you said like, is this a loose associate or

987
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: is this my best friend? You are like kind of

988
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: declaring what something is while it's happening, and then you're

989
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: like missing the whole moment anyway, And I've been there.

990
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: I understand what that is. You're like, oh, how much

991
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: of this person can I take? And that's up for

992
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: you to decide, But you and also have more fun

993
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: within the moment and be like, oh my god, this

994
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 1: is fun to hang out with a person. I would

995
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: never act like this. I have a lot of friends

996
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: that that I'm like, oh my god, I would never

997
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: act like that, and I half of my friends think

998
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: that about me. So I think that that's like a

999
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: good reminder, you know what I mean, Because I'm sure

1000
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: there's things that you do that probably maybe rub her

1001
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: the wrong way, or and she's able to look beyond them,

1002
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: or maybe there isn't anything that you do that rubs

1003
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: her the wrong way. But like I would just pick

1004
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: and choose your moments. And also it's an interesting experiment

1005
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: to find out when you get annoyed with someone and

1006
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: when somebody starts to grate on your nerves. It's very

1007
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: it's like a nice introspective opportunity to find out what

1008
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: it is that is bothering you about that person? What

1009
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: why does this bother me? Like what's underneath that? Yeah?

1010
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 7: No, And I appreciate that so much. I I guess

1011
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 7: that is like ultimately what I'm trying to articulate. I

1012
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 7: feel like I'm fairly accepting. But this has thrown a

1013
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 7: space in the works a little bit. But you're You're

1014
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 7: totally right. And I think as we get older, too,

1015
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 7: like I'm getting to a phase of life where it's

1016
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 7: harder to make friends. It's a little more difficult.

1017
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: Have you thought about taking up hunting? Mollin can coach

1018
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: you on how to hunt on her new show Hunting Wife.

1019
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: I can hunt fake wild boar if you want, we

1020
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: can go hunting together, you know, with blanks. It's going

1021
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: to be super fun. But I do make a me

1022
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: and Mark arita, so you know, okay, I do think

1023
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: you go and enjoy the flash and the luxury, dip

1024
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: in and dip out as much as you want then

1025
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 3: and that's it, and then you'll see you over time

1026
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: if you need to shave the fat and you're like, no,

1027
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: not a good friend. Maybe a great friend, but very different,

1028
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: and just limit the time.

1029
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: Get very acquainted with that mute button on Instagram.

1030
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: Like there are people I love in real life and

1031
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: I cannot tolerate their social media presence.

1032
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: And that's okay, it's a different thing.

1033
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: But it's also like, if someone is also filming the

1034
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: whole time you're with them, you have every right to go,

1035
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: can you please? Like cool it? Like, let's not but

1036
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: we're not, you know, I'm here to spend time with you.

1037
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: Like that's totally justifiable. I don't if somebody's constantly filming

1038
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: you or you know, wanting to film themselves that then

1039
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: they're not being present at all. So that that is

1040
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: something you can say, and that's not being judgy, that's

1041
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: being wanting real time, Plus, you don't know how many

1042
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: people you're going to meet through this woman. She sounds

1043
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: like very social and she'll probably introduce you to a

1044
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: lot more people who probably feel the same way about

1045
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: her that you do.

1046
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: So then you have people.

1047
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Then you can really start talking about her with some

1048
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: other friends. So you have got to look forward to

1049
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: so many bonuses. Yeah, it sounds like fun, Lucy, just

1050
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: don't put so much pressure on it, Like it's not

1051
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: a romantic relationship, and we shouldn't be putting so much

1052
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: pressure on our relationships. Tess, have fun and clock yourself

1053
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: when you're being judgmental.

1054
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: Take it in. I appreciate that.

1055
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks Lucy, thank you, take your look.

1056
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: Bye.

1057
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: Well.

1058
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: Our next question comes from stu Uh.

1059
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: He's thirty two and says Dear Chelsea, straight white male

1060
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 4: father and lover of the podcast, writing in, obviously.

1061
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Dright man is listening to this podcast. We should get

1062
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: a support group for straight men who listened to this podcast,

1063
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: because there's I've only got to be like less than ten.

1064
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: Right, a celebration for this.

1065
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: Love it.

1066
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: So, he says, I've been meaning to reach out for

1067
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 4: a while now, and I'm glad I finally am my partner.

1068
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: Hannah was featured in one of your episodes about a

1069
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: year ago.

1070
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: Everything is amazing between us, and she's not the subject

1071
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: of my plea for advice. I have an almost five

1072
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: year old son with my ex, who I dated on

1073
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: and off for about seven years prior to meeting my

1074
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 4: current partner.

1075
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: I left for good about three years ago.

1076
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: It was a tumultuous relationship between us from the beginning,

1077
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: and with the help of my friends, I was finally

1078
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: able to break the cycle. I had four separate apartments

1079
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: during our various breaks and broke all of the leases

1080
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: to move back in with her, each time into a.

1081
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: House that I built for her.

1082
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: Regardless, things are better than ever at the moment moment,

1083
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 4: but she still needs to be in my life. With

1084
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: lawyers and multiple mediations, we were able to come to

1085
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 4: a somewhat copasthetic parenting agreement. However, the reality is anything

1086
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 4: but pleasant. My dilemma is basically, how do I shift

1087
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 4: my perspective for the next eighteen years to probably the

1088
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 4: rest of my life of having to deal with this

1089
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: person who's caused me so much trauma and deep, deep pain.

1090
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 4: How do I co parent with someone who's unable to

1091
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: communicate rationally, a person who exhibits all the classic narcissistic qualities,

1092
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 4: we can barely communicate. So the court suggested a parenting

1093
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: app and that's what we rely on.

1094
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: Currently.

1095
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: Being face to face is extremely challenging, as she consistently

1096
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: initiates volatle arguments in front of our young son, regardless

1097
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: of what I say or do. I feel that I'm

1098
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: doing the work on myself to be able to move

1099
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 4: past this and create a future of my dreams with

1100
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 4: my current partner. But what happens when you're bound to

1101
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 4: a person like this for the rest of your life?

1102
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: In a nutshell?

1103
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: How do I stay sane and create healthy boundaries for

1104
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 4: myself for the foreseeable future and beyond in a seemingly

1105
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: impossible situation?

1106
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: Best?

1107
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Stu Hi, Stu Hi, Hi, This is our special guest,

1108
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: Malin Ackerman. Hi.

1109
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 3: How you doing good?

1110
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 6: Nice to meet you.

1111
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you too. You have some co parenting experience, Yeah,

1112
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: My husband and I we were together eleven years. We

1113
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: separated when my son was four months old and only

1114
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: spoke through lauryas it was a similar kind of thing.

1115
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: I understand narcissistic people more than anyone you would know,

1116
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: but it's definitely they are. A narcissist is impossible to

1117
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: negotiate with. It's like negotiating with a terrorist. So there's

1118
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: you're just never going to just don't ever hope that

1119
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: this person is going to come around to anything. But

1120
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: you can absolutely shape your own life the way you

1121
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: want to. It sounds like you're already on the path

1122
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: for that, where you're taking really good care of yourself

1123
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: and you're doing your own self work and you've got

1124
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: a supportive partner. It sounds like you, guys, can be

1125
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: a loving home for your son. There's going to be

1126
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: bumps in the road, and you're never going to be

1127
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: able to protect your son from the world or life,

1128
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: or her or whatever she wants to be saying or doing.

1129
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: But as he grows up, my son is now twelve

1130
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: years old, the questions start to come and they see things.

1131
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: They're very smart and they're very bright, and they take

1132
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: things in and they understand what's happening. But unfortunately, I

1133
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: wish I knew about this parenting app where you could

1134
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: just go on an app and decide everything. That sounds amazing.

1135
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: I think stick to that and have as little amount

1136
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: of contact with her as possible, and just do the

1137
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: kind of drop off and hand off of your son

1138
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: and just be there for him, really and for your partner.

1139
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: Just take care of yourselves. But there's not much you

1140
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: can do when you're dealing with a narcissist. And maybe

1141
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: over time it'll start to dissipate, the anger might start

1142
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 3: to dissipate, and the you know, ferocity. But it sounds

1143
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: like you're on the right path at least. I don't know, Chelsea,

1144
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: what do you have to say.

1145
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: I have some experience with this too, surprisingly, dealing with

1146
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: someone who behaves in that way, who creates tons of

1147
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: chaos and then takes absolutely no accountability for it, and

1148
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: they have children and you know, in my life, and

1149
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: so I totally understand what you're saying. And I think

1150
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: what I would say is there's so much dignity in

1151
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: not getting down with that behavior, Like, there's so much

1152
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: dignity in remaining separate and never bad mouthing that person

1153
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: and never not to your child anyway. Obviously, you can

1154
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: go off on her all you want to your friends

1155
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: and family, and you need to, you know, but the

1156
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: app is amazing. I didn't know there was something like that,

1157
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: But I think there's so much dignity in not getting

1158
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: into the muck of it and mired in it with

1159
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: your child that once you have like a few years,

1160
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that you have, but I think

1161
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: that in it of itself is an honorable thing and

1162
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: an honorable way to react with somebody who's unstable and

1163
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: narcissistic and creates chaos wherever they go. And it's kind

1164
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: of like you're setting an example for your kid to

1165
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: see what the calm is and where the storm is

1166
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: right And so if you're always reliable and you're always

1167
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: dependable and you're always calm, because a storm can't fight

1168
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: by itself, it just fizzles out. So as long as

1169
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: you're keep the engagement to the bear bear bear bear minimum,

1170
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: she's gonna find somebody else to argue and fight with,

1171
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully that will occupy her time as

1172
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: soon as she like loses the energy that she gets

1173
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: from you. And I'm sure you've already done most of this,

1174
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: but I would say, like just continuing through it in

1175
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: a dignified way and holding your son's mental health in

1176
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: such a high place like that's more important than anything

1177
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: is to know and exemplify the kind of behavior that

1178
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: you want him to attach to rather than to that behavior,

1179
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, so that there's a contrast and he can see, oh,

1180
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: this person's stable, this person's reliable, this person does what

1181
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: they say, this person is dependable, and then there's this.

1182
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: So he's going to figure it out because everyone does.

1183
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: But it's definitely not your job to paint the picture

1184
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: for him. It's your job to just show him what

1185
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: the opposite of that looks like.

1186
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's kind of the only thing that's kept

1187
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 6: me sane in this whole thing, honestly, is just anchoring

1188
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 6: down and really doing that myself. I thought she would

1189
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 6: change when I started dating her, and clearly, you know,

1190
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 6: that was my bad, and I've learned to not and

1191
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 6: I don't see it happening in the time of the future.

1192
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 6: But one of the main kind of issues that we're

1193
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 6: having at the moment is that obviously he's in a

1194
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 6: lot of school in summer camps now and everything, and

1195
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 6: she's kind of been bad mouthing me to all the

1196
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 6: other parents and the teachers and more or less putting

1197
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 6: everything on me, which I you know, if she wants

1198
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 6: to do that, Go ahead, have fun. It's clear when

1199
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 6: you meet me in person that that is not who

1200
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 6: I am. But I just you know, it paints a

1201
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 6: bad creature of me, and people look at me differently

1202
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 6: when I come to pick up my son, and you know,

1203
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 6: they treat me differently, And how should I deal with that?

1204
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 6: Because that is not fun?

1205
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: But that's on them. I mean, that's crazy to me

1206
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 3: that people but will just take one side of the story,

1207
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I feel like that, then

1208
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: who are these people? Do really care what they think?

1209
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: Do you really care? That's a great point, like there

1210
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 3: are two sides to every story, and if they're not

1211
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: willing to hear both sides, then begone with them. You

1212
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: don't need them yet.

1213
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: But also I would argue they don't even need to

1214
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: hear your side because there's one person's tinting tales and

1215
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: then there's you that's acting normal and going to pick

1216
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: up your son and being polite and pleasant and engaging

1217
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: to whomever you can. You don't have to go and

1218
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: convince them that you're the good guy. They're going to

1219
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: figure it out too. Everybody, the person I'm talking about,

1220
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: everybody knows that this person's off their rocker. Everybody knows.

1221
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: I didn't have to tell anybody. Most people figured it

1222
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: out on their own. So that's another song and dance

1223
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: that you can just eliminate, Like you don't have to

1224
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: participate in that. All you have to do is be

1225
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: a great dad to your kid. It doesn't matter what

1226
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: these people think of you in the moment. They're all

1227
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: going to figure the same shit out too. And for

1228
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: the other people that want to glom onto the drama

1229
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: of the story, there are people that create drama wherever

1230
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: they go, and people get tired of it. People don't

1231
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: want to be involved in other people's drama endlessly. It

1232
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: sounds fun in the beginning sometimes, but it doesn't go

1233
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: on like that. So I would say it's the same

1234
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: advice I would give you with regard to dealing with

1235
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: her directly, and like, just act in a dignified way,

1236
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: like you are dignified, you're doing the right thing, and

1237
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: just be consistent about all of your behavior. And then

1238
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: then it's just the writings on the wall. It's just

1239
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: obvious to everybody, and it doesn't necessarily happen when you

1240
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: want to. I know you want to, like defend yourself,

1241
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: but don't. There's nothing to defend.

1242
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 6: It has to crash and burn. In my opinion, that's

1243
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 6: the only inevidible outcome is that eventually it's just gonna

1244
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 6: She's gonna do this until you're the many friends left

1245
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 6: or people obviously see.

1246
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: It, Toluly, She'll go through a million friends, that's what

1247
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: she'll do. She'll go through a million people.

1248
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: Narcissists burn their bridges wherever they go, and it just happens.

1249
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: And if you're like Chelsea, saying's best advice just be

1250
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 3: consistent and be dignified and people will see it over time.

1251
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: That's it.

1252
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's no needs and reason to bad mouth

1253
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: her to anybody, even if you become friends with any

1254
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: of those parents, like all you have to you just

1255
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: have to give the look like I don't want to

1256
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: go there. I'm not interested in participating in that kind

1257
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: of conversation, you know what I mean, be above it

1258
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: because that is respectable behavior. And when people see that,

1259
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, okay, there's the normal one.

1260
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it sets us more a part too exact

1261
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 6: exactly what you so.

1262
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's kind of like taking that attitude with

1263
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 1: you in every for the big stuff and the small stuff.

1264
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: You know, you just have to have that attitude. And

1265
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: like it's like every morning you have to meditate for

1266
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, like I will not react to her today,

1267
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: I will not get involved in this drama today and

1268
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: do that, and before you know it, then that becomes

1269
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: your your your second skin. And I mean, you sound

1270
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: like you have your shit together anyway, and you've done

1271
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: the hardest stuff is behind you. But I can understand

1272
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: how challenging it would be to think of leading this life.

1273
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean, she's gonna start terrorizing another man at some

1274
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: point anyway, So.

1275
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 6: You know, I've been through a few, so let's hope

1276
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 6: one sticks.

1277
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: See, Yeah, you go, but thanks for calling in. And

1278
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: we're so excited to have a straight male caller. I

1279
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: can't tell you. It'll happen more for sure up here. Okay,

1280
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: we'll take care, Jerius.

1281
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Bye bye bye. That was sweet.

1282
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: I know there's so many See there are such good

1283
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: guys out there, and that's sweet. Yeah, And you know

1284
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: those people like that though, that are so crazy. You know,

1285
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: you talk about narcissis and then everything comes up on

1286
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: your phone and it's like a narcissist will do this.

1287
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: A narcissist will do this a narcissist. And somebody said

1288
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: to me, I was with this guy I dated. I

1289
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: was in Barcelona and when I did this European tour,

1290
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: and he was we were talking about narcissist and we

1291
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: went to dinner before and he's an old ex and

1292
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm reading this. I was working with

1293
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: a psycholiatrist and he has this philosophy that you know,

1294
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: every child is a narcissist. Every child is a narcissist

1295
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: because they have to learn how to get attention, and

1296
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: they have to smile, and they have to be funny,

1297
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 1: or they have to create drama. They have to get attention.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't think that's the right depiction.

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Speaker 1: And I go, not every child is a narciss He goes, no,

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Speaker 1: every person is a narcissist. And I was like, that's

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Speaker 1: not true either. That's just simply not true. And he's like, well,

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Speaker 1: you're a narcissist. And I said, I don't have a

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Speaker 1: problem with you calling me a narcissist because I don't

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Speaker 1: struggle with that identity, Like I'm not worried about me

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Speaker 1: being a narcissist, So you can call me that, and

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Speaker 1: if you think that that's okay. My opinion of me

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Speaker 1: is more important than anyone else's anyway. But like a narcissist,

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Speaker 1: if you call a narcissist a narcissist, they will argue

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Speaker 1: with you about it until the fucking sun goes down,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And they and and they

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Speaker 1: get they get mired in details that have nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with the actual basis of the argument or the conversation.

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Speaker 1: They will talk about the color of the sky and

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Speaker 1: disagree with this, and then we'll focus on this, like

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Speaker 1: a Narcissists are so toxic to be around, and they

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Speaker 1: exhaust everyone around them and they will never say they're

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Speaker 1: sorry about any of their behavior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ever, absolutely, they'll justify it till the cows come home.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible and it's sad, I'm telling you. It's like

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Speaker 3: it's like talking to it's like trying to negotiate with terrorists,

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Speaker 3: like it's we're never going to win this fight, so.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, And the and the only piece that

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Speaker 1: you get is when you stop communicating with that person.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, stop trying to change them, and like stop

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Speaker 4: trying to have those fights. When you start picking no battles,

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Speaker 4: it's like, oh okay.

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Speaker 2: It's like such a relief.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then they have to go elsewhere for their drama and

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Speaker 1: you can they can't find it there, So like it's

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Speaker 1: it's just always better. And and you know, obviously, when

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Speaker 1: you share a child with somebody, it's not that easy

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Speaker 1: to just walk away from somebody and not communicate with them.

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Speaker 1: But this parenting app sounds fucking awesome. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: have an app good, Yeah, to handle a lot of

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Speaker 1: my relationships.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, it would be great. Okay, Well, we'll

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Speaker 3: be right back with Malon Akerman.

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Speaker 1: How we're back to wrap things up with Malon Ackerman

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Speaker 1: where Okay, we're very excited her show to be used

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Speaker 1: on July twenty first.

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Speaker 3: Is that the date July twenty first on Netflix?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it on Netflix. It's called So this is even

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Speaker 1: a better outcome than you've started with. I think ending

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Speaker 1: up on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Is I think so? Yeah. I mean I think a

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Speaker 3: lot more people have Netflix, and so it's kind of

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Speaker 3: the og of all the streamers. So it's great. I'm

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Speaker 3: very excited. I'm very excited for the world to see

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Speaker 3: this show. I'm also nervous, and you know, there's lots

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Speaker 3: of feelings around it, but ultimately, I just think that

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Speaker 3: it's a really fun show. I think people are gonna

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Speaker 3: love it. I think it's going to be a big hit.

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Speaker 3: Oh thanks, I hope so so yes, it's called Hunting Wives.

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Speaker 3: Everybody premieres July twenty first on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mallin. I hope I see you soon. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you when I'm in La this summer.

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you based in La?

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Speaker 3: Now? I'm based in La, but of course I'm we're

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Speaker 3: going way with summer. But we go to Europe for

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Speaker 3: the summer. We go to Sweden and England and visit

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Speaker 3: family and stuff like that, so we'll be gone for

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Speaker 3: a bit of it. All right.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll figure out a time to hook up at

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Speaker 1: some point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be awesome. It's so nice to chat

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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on everything.

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Speaker 3: Thanks any thank you? All right, nice talking to you both.

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Speaker 1: Okay, my remaining dates for Vegas, there are remaining dates

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Speaker 1: for this year. Summertime time is coming and I will

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Speaker 1: be in Vegas at the Cosmo doing my residency on

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Speaker 1: August thirtieth, and then November one and twenty ninth. November

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Speaker 1: one and November twenty ninth, I will be in Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas at the Cosmo performing Inside Myself at the Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Do you want advice from Chelsea?

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