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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Nashville Studios, torres here in Los Angeles. I'll

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Speaker 2: say this, Jason, the peacock gap. What is it about?

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Speaker 2: Five dollars a month? Six six dollars a month. There

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Speaker 2: are a lot of people demanding a refund for their

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Speaker 2: money today, by the thousands they signed up for this app.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs up twenty six to seven with five minutes to go.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say this game's been a total snoozer,

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Speaker 2: because listen, we love sports. We're grateful to do what

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Speaker 2: we do. Let's just say we won't be telling our

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Speaker 2: grandchildren about super wild cards Saturday, Chiefs Dolphins in a

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Speaker 2: negative ten degree weather? First off, how you doing? Second

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Speaker 2: of all, not a lot to react to in this game,

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Speaker 2: but how are you.

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Speaker 1: Jason I'm fine. Yes, the game. I sent that text

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Speaker 1: to you a couple of months ago. It was just like, man,

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Speaker 1: this game is a boring watch, and it is to

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Speaker 1: those who spent six dollars on Peacock, hang on to it.

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Speaker 1: You get the Royal Rumble free in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so enjoy that stone cold Steve Austin. Is

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Speaker 2: he like still favored over there or what's the deal there?

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Speaker 1: No? I can't even continue this conversation. No, he is not.

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Speaker 1: He might be a part of the festivities, but he

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Speaker 1: will know. No. Well, Ian John is kind of the

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Speaker 1: rock is kind of teasing a little something right now.

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Speaker 2: Hogan, he is he?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: What match is he in?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, okay, he.

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Speaker 1: Is not in a match. It would be more interesting

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Speaker 1: to watch him right and down, even at his age,

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Speaker 1: than watching It's just it's a man. You want to talk.

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Speaker 1: Take the wind out of the sales of a game

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Speaker 1: that could have been this high flying, fun offensive game.

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Speaker 1: Put it in these temperatures because it's just it feels

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Speaker 1: like everybody's moving slow. They're moving carefully because the ground

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Speaker 1: isn't I mean, it's rock hard, but it's also covered

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Speaker 1: in Frost and all of these things, and just everything

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Speaker 1: about this from the outset has been bad, and it

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Speaker 1: hasn't helped that the television broadcast is not really live

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Speaker 1: and up the live and up things in the booth either.

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Speaker 1: With all due respect to Jason Garrett, who seems like

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Speaker 1: a really nice man, and I think based on the

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Speaker 1: way he was treated in Dallas, he clearly was because

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Speaker 1: he was there longer than maybe he should have been,

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Speaker 1: because he was such a nice guy. And I don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily think his insight is wrong, but the charisma is

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Speaker 1: like a negative. He would be like a negative six

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Speaker 1: of his charisma stat it is not good. Like it's

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Speaker 1: just it's told to listen to. And when you add

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Speaker 1: to it the circumstances of this game, somehow, the first

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Speaker 1: game was more compelling in the fourth quarter than this

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Speaker 1: thing has been pretty much since about five minutes left

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter. And that thing was a blowout

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Speaker 1: early this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I got a lot of takes to

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Speaker 2: everything that you just said, and I want to start

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Speaker 2: by saying this, I had this thought while I was

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Speaker 2: actually watching this game. And by the way, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're competing for a championship. Whatever. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear the excuses, but what I will say, I was

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Speaker 2: watching this as I was thinking about this. As I

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Speaker 2: was watching this, we all revere cold weather football, snow

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Speaker 2: ice conditions, ice bowl negative this. You know, you pour

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Speaker 2: hits your lips. While I was watching this game, I

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Speaker 2: was thinking, I think I've come to accept cold weather

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Speaker 2: football is actually better to talk about then it generally

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Speaker 2: actually is when the game gets played. Does that feel

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Speaker 2: like hyperbole to you? Does that feel like an overstatement

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Speaker 2: on your part? I'm not at all.

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Speaker 1: That is that is a million percent right. That is

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Speaker 1: like it's always better in theory the big like right

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Speaker 1: now we're preparing for a giant winter storm here. Some

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Speaker 1: people already have it clearly because if you saw the

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Speaker 1: shots in Buffalo, but you know we're maybe gonna get

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Speaker 1: six inches of snow or something like that. Everybody's acting

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Speaker 1: this part of the country when that happens, it's always

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Speaker 1: more fun in theory. It's the same thing as the

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Speaker 1: Cinderella in the NCAA tournament making it to the final four,

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Speaker 1: got to watch this like that. It doesn't it always

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Speaker 1: sounds better than it is, Like, yes, it's cool to

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Speaker 1: something like this tonight, Like it's actually kind of a

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Speaker 1: like these are riveting, dramatic will played, high flying games.

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Speaker 1: It changes everything about football. It's hard to take anything

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Speaker 1: away and like bury Miami and the ground for this

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Speaker 1: because it's just such an abnormal circumstance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because that was going to be kind

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Speaker 2: of my next stakeaway is you know, one thing about

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Speaker 2: have gotten to this level, is I think that you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes narratives form, and I'm always somebody that naturally pushes

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Speaker 2: back on things like is this really the way it

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Speaker 2: seems because everybody's saying it, or is everybody does just

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Speaker 2: one person have the same opinion.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I bring that up because I was very curious to

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Speaker 2: see the Dolphins this week. All we heard all week

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Speaker 2: cold a warm weather team coming north too, was record

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Speaker 2: against two, was record under forty degrees. And you just

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Speaker 2: talking points into this and the that, and it was

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Speaker 2: just because you know, I thought that, Listen, I thought

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Speaker 2: they rightfully should have been an underdog. You know, they've

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Speaker 2: been struggling of late. You know that that Bill's loss

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Speaker 2: last week really wasn't as close as the final score indicated.

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Speaker 2: The week before they got destroyed by Baltimore. They have

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Speaker 2: some injury issues, But all week long I kind of

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Speaker 2: sat there and said, like, maybe there's something, Maybe we're

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Speaker 2: over selling it. They run the ball pretty well. Can

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Speaker 2: you get guys the ball in space? Blah blah blah

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Speaker 2: like right away, it was like, oh no, that narrative

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Speaker 2: all week long about Miami and cold weather, that is

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Speaker 2: a thousand percent Did you notice that as well?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, go absolutely When they were showing people walking

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Speaker 1: of course Taylor Swift in a Travis Kelsey jacket was

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Speaker 1: like the first thing they showed or the top of

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Speaker 1: ESPN dot com, before you've even got to the scores

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Speaker 1: of the playoff games. That was the lead headline. So

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Speaker 1: great job. Yeah, they showed a shot of Tua and

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Speaker 1: he just didn't look comfortable already. And Mike McDaniel in

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Speaker 1: talking to him at halftime, and I actually thought he

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Speaker 1: with a ray and knocked him out. The best thing

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Speaker 1: about this entire football game, I dare you to disagree

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Speaker 1: with this is Andy Reid's mustache. Oh yeah, I shot

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Speaker 1: in the second quarter. We will never ever see a

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Speaker 1: day where that is not used. If that thing's not

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Speaker 1: memed already, it will be very very soon. That's the

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Speaker 1: only thing about this game that I am going to remember.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna remember Kelsey's drops. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: remember anything that Miami did offensively. I'm gonna remember Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid's mustache. That's literally it.

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Speaker 2: For people who have not seen the pictures. If you're

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Speaker 2: driving around, if you're at work, Andy Reid's mustache very

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Speaker 2: much was frozen. You could see water droplets frozen. And

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Speaker 2: Kaylie Hartong, who's doing the sideline reporting, coming out at halftime,

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Speaker 2: she said she did ask Andy Reid about it, and

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Speaker 2: she said, yes, he is aware that his mustache is frozen,

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Speaker 2: and he knows that there's not much that he can

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Speaker 2: do about it. But that was kind of another big

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Speaker 2: takeaway that I had. Jason's exactly what you just said

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Speaker 2: is from moment when Mike McDaniel too. And it was

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Speaker 2: interesting because I will say this, so, Jason Garrett is

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Speaker 2: not good on a broadcast, and I do think there

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Speaker 2: He is not good on a broadcast, but I bring

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Speaker 2: something that the studio team did reference, which was before

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Speaker 2: the game. Jason Garrett, I don't know if he said

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Speaker 2: it on the pregame show and I missed it, but

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Speaker 2: he said that when he was a head coach, he

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Speaker 2: puffy sideline. Jackie said, I don't care if I had

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Speaker 2: to layer up under a hoodie whatever he's like, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't want my team looking at me as though

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Speaker 2: And I like, I don't want to be over anal

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Speaker 2: by the way they're showing right now in the broadcast

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Speaker 2: any Reason Mustache it is both hysterical and kind of

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Speaker 2: repulsing at the same time, But like, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to do like over analyst sports talk radio guy. But

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Speaker 2: I do think there is something to when your coach,

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Speaker 2: very clearly, every time you look at him, very clearly,

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Speaker 2: looks like he does not want to be there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it does have a trickle down Am I

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Speaker 2: being over analyst sport? I wish I could screenshot this

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Speaker 2: right now? Maybe I'll be able to and put it

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. But I just feel like when your own

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Speaker 2: Am I crazy for saying that? Jason?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I think you want to look miserable

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Speaker 1: because your body language matters in those circumstances, like you

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Speaker 1: do want to be standing there, like, man, we're going

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Speaker 1: to win this football game. I know it's like everybody

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Speaker 1: out there knows it's cold, So you don't have to

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Speaker 1: oversell it. I don't know that you need to play

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Speaker 1: macho either, like there's not really anything to be gained

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Speaker 1: either way, but maybe you don't over bundle up. He

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Speaker 1: also made a point dig Garrett, and again, like I said,

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Speaker 1: some of the points he makes are are pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It's just a delivery more than anything else. But he

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Speaker 1: was talking about right before they went to the half

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Speaker 1: that you know, they would go in in games that

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Speaker 1: everything warm that they could find, but chicken broth was

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Speaker 1: almost a constant, and that sometimes it would be hard

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Speaker 2: This game is closing in on a final again. Miami

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Speaker 2: you know, Jason, we were talking before the break. By

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's that was only gonna be my only

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Speaker 2: follow up there is that I think the concern is

435
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Speaker 2: he's never gonna be in a better situation. I mean

436
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Speaker 2: several elite skill position players, I mean elite, like top top,

437
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Speaker 2: top of the line, not just Waddle and Tyreek Hill,

438
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Speaker 2: but Devin and Devon, A chain has emerged this year,

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Speaker 2: most Aert, et cetera, and obviously an offensive coach that

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Speaker 2: we all think is very smart. So it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I'm like, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: there's really that much of an interesting conversation, just because

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Speaker 2: I don't think we, like you said to start the show,

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Speaker 2: I don't think we really ultimately quote unquote learned anything

445
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Speaker 2: in this game. We knew it was gonna be tough

446
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Speaker 2: on the road in the cold weather. We know he

447
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Speaker 2: has not succeeded. We know this team has not succeeded

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Speaker 2: in the cold weather. So I'd love to just have

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Speaker 2: some huge, you know, bold takeaway from this game. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there really is one other than

451
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Speaker 2: that the weather did play a factor, and the team

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Speaker 2: that most people seem to think was going to win.

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Speaker 2: Did from Casey's perspective, I mean, I think I know

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Speaker 2: what your answer is going to be. Does this change

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Speaker 2: anything for you at all? From the case perspective? Now,

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Speaker 2: I will add, we obviously got an interesting twist to

457
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Speaker 2: Kansas City's next game, as if they do have to

458
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Speaker 2: go to Buffalo next week, they will essentially now have

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Speaker 2: two full days of extra rest compared to Buffalo, who

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Speaker 2: does not play until Monday at four thirty Eastern. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure everyone has seen that announcement by now, but Buffalo

462
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Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh will not play on Sunday because of the weather.

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Speaker 2: They will play on Monday. I don't know for me, Jason,

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Speaker 2: that this game changed all that much. Casey did run

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Speaker 2: the ball very effectively, but I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: think because they beat up on a team that clearly

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Speaker 2: didn't want to be there, that because they're better built

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Speaker 2: to play in that type of weather, that this fundamentally

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Speaker 2: changed how I feel about this team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: That is, how does anything change from your perspective?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I think they if you've got Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: you've got a chance. You've got Patrick Mahomes, you've got

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, You've got a chance. Kelsey had three drops,

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Speaker 1: but he also had seven catches for seventy one yards

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Speaker 1: in the game where she Rice had a great playoff

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Speaker 1: debut with eight catches in one hundred and thirty yards

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Speaker 1: and a touchdown. He did what you needed him to do.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Pacheco. He played well. They've still got the

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Speaker 1: pieces and everybody is flawed. We've talked about this. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens look just great, but who knows what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen next week when they actually get onto the field.

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Speaker 1: The Bills right now, I really really like what I've

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Speaker 1: seen from the Bills, but because of the weather, they

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Speaker 1: may lose to the Steelers. I mean, we have no

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Speaker 1: idea how that game is going to go. But if

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Speaker 1: you've got Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, then you can't

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Speaker 1: ever be counted out. Even if it still doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like they're fully together, they have been playing a little

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Speaker 1: bit better. It felt like the offensive line played better

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Speaker 1: tonight than I've seen as of late, at least for

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Speaker 1: the most part. It helped that Miami's injury was hit

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Speaker 1: at the wrong time. But no, I don't think you

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Speaker 1: learned anything about Kansas City here either. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: want at home in cold temperatures, and they're going to

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Speaker 1: be playing in cold temperatures next week. If they end

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Speaker 1: up going to Buffalo, for example, we'll find that out.

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Speaker 1: If they ended up in the Super Bowl. Is anybody

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Speaker 1: going to be that surprised? No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: But I don't look at them and think they're juggernauts either.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's still going to take a big time

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Speaker 1: haymaker to knock them out because they're battle tested. They've

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Speaker 1: been here before, and Holmes is not going to get

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Speaker 1: rattled in the playoffs. It's never happened before. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why what happened now, this is fuck correction. It

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Speaker 1: did happen once. It happened to get Stampa Bay into

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That's true. That is true. Well, Kansas City does get

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Speaker 2: the win. Twenty six to seven is the final score.

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Speaker 2: Not all that much to react to, tell you what, Jason.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll react to the other game, certainly

511
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Speaker 2: more offense, certainly, more you know stuff. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if there's that much more to talk about, but we'll

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Speaker 2: break it all down next before we do though, first

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Speaker 2: time this evening. Let's toss over the news desk Steve

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Speaker 2: de Seger, what is trending? Hello, guys, Chiefs twenty six

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Speaker 2: to seven over the Dolphins. You guys were talking about

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Speaker 2: what an awful telecast it was tonight that was only

518
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Speaker 2: topped today or should I say bottomed by CBS Sports

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Speaker 2: Network attempting to carry the Hula Bowl College Football All

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Speaker 2: Star Game horrendous. I tried to watch, I really tried.

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Speaker 2: I made it till ten minutes left in the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, why was it bad?

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Speaker 6: Well, let's start by They didn't explain the All Star

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Speaker 6: games kickoff rules before the opening kickoff. The opening kick

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Speaker 6: plops inside the twenty. No one picks up the football.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me?

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Speaker 6: The camera didn't follow the first long pass down the field.

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Speaker 6: The announcers didn't explain why the Hula Bowl wasn't being

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Speaker 6: played in Hawaii it was in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: They didn't explain the team names. They didn't have the

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Speaker 6: graphics to show what players were starting.

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Speaker 2: Can I say I accidentally changed the channel to that

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Speaker 2: and it was like, here's John Smith and it just

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Speaker 2: said like hometown Japan. And I was like I was like,

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Speaker 2: what does that even mean? But anyway, that was I

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Speaker 2: did flip it on by accident, and that literally.

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Speaker 6: And you know in these All Star football games they're

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Speaker 6: often wearing multiple helmet stickers. Also, it's just memo to

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Speaker 6: CBS Sports Network, did you even want to carry this game?

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Speaker 6: Because I've rarely seen less effort? It was horrendous?

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Speaker 1: Do you even broadcast? Bro?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Fair question.

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Speaker 6: Well, with the Dolphins loss in Kansas tonight, it's still

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Speaker 6: a possibility that the top four seeds in the AFC

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Speaker 6: are alive for next weekend's divisional round, which means if

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Speaker 6: the Bills went on Monday, it's going to be Chiefs

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Speaker 6: at Buffalo next weekend, which would put the four seed

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Speaker 6: Texans at the one seed Ravens next weekend. But as

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Speaker 6: you mentioned, we won't know until Monday because tomorrow's Pittsburgh

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Speaker 6: at Buffalo game was postponed Monday due to the snowstorm

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Speaker 6: in the city and there's a travel ban in that county.

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Speaker 1: Tonight.

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Speaker 6: Right now, in Kansas City, it's minus seven degrees wind

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Speaker 6: chill at about minus twenty seven. Chiefs win twenty six

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Speaker 6: to seven over Miami. You know how most NFL kickoffs

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Speaker 6: these days are touchbacks in the cold Tonight, there were

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Speaker 6: nine total kickoffs, only three even made the end zone.

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Speaker 6: Kansas City on the ground though, Isaiah Pacheco with twenty

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Speaker 6: four carries, had eighty nine yards rushing and a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Devon ah Chanda Miami six carries nine yards. Raheem Moster,

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Speaker 6: who'd been battling injuries, was active. Moster aed eight carries

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Speaker 6: thirty three yards. In other words, from Miami, the two

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Speaker 6: running backs combined had forty one yards rushing. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 6: had forty one yards rushing on two carries tonight, and

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Speaker 6: he did break his helmet on that helmet to helmet

567
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Speaker 6: collision at one point this evening. Rashie Rice eight receptions,

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Speaker 6: one hundred thirty yards and an early TD.

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Speaker 2: This was one of the five.

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Speaker 6: Coldest games in the history of the NFL. Four short

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Speaker 6: field goals from Harrison Bucker Casey on field goals this

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Speaker 6: season is now thirty seven for thirty nine. Chiefs Advance,

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Speaker 6: Houston Advance. The Texans at home defeated Cleveland to start

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Speaker 6: wild Card weekend forty five fourteen. It was seventeen fourteen.

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Speaker 6: Late in the first half. Joe Flacco third quarter through

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Speaker 6: pick sixes on back to back drives C J. Stroud

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Speaker 6: three touchdown passes, a rookie playoff record. Philadelphia wide receiver

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Speaker 6: AJ Brown with his knee injury, is out for Monday

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Speaker 6: night at Tampa. Chance of some weather there by the way,

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Speaker 6: now it's due to be over seventy degrees in Tampa

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Speaker 6: that day, but a chance of rain day and night

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Speaker 6: for that Monday night playoff game. Sunday on Fox TV,

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Speaker 6: Packers at Cowboys four thirty pm Eastern Time. The Sunday

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Speaker 6: night matchup Rams at Lions. In the NBA Late Game,

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Speaker 6: it's the Lakers only down three in the fourth quarter

586
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Speaker 6: at Utah Jazz one O eight to one oh five

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Speaker 6: under nine minutes to go. Lebron James out tonight with

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Speaker 6: a bad ankle. Jalen Brunson was out for the Knicks

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Speaker 6: with a Bruce cap, but they still won at Memphis

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Speaker 6: or what's left of them one o six to ninety

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Speaker 6: four wins for Boston and Milwaukee at home. By the way,

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Speaker 6: Boston at home is nineteen and oh this season, they

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Speaker 6: won the home game against Houston one forty five to

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Speaker 6: one thirteen and in college hoops upsets in the top

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Speaker 6: ten TCU edge number two Houston, Texas A and M

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Speaker 6: in overtime beat Kentucky, which was ranked sixth Washington State

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Speaker 6: over eighth ranked Arizona seventy three to seventy buck you

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Speaker 6: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Very much, Steve Sager, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday

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Speaker 2: Er Tours, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: Com Studios. Prior to that Kansas City win over the

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolph, we did have another playoff game. I'll say

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Speaker 2: this too. By the way, Jason, the Saturday wild Card

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Speaker 2: weekend usually gives us something pretty interesting. I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about that. Wilad de Seger was given his update. But

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Speaker 2: last year we had we had Jags Chargers on wild

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Speaker 2: Card weekend, and Arnie Spanier and I were on for

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Speaker 2: the Titans Patriots Wildcard.

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Speaker 1: No, but yeah, the Titans Titan Patriots, which.

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Speaker 2: Was Brady's last game as a New England Patriot, did

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Speaker 2: not get nearly as much excitement today. But I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, listen, I hesitate to say that

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Speaker 2: anything is like a breakout performance for an NFL player.

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Speaker 2: The sport is so popular that the Texans had a

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Speaker 2: standalone game on last Saturday Night, which I'm sure was

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Speaker 2: watched by probably fifteen to twenty million people.

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Speaker 1: But CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud, I mean, there was a lot of buzz about

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Speaker 2: him after his performance against the Cleveland Browns sixteen to

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Speaker 2: twenty one, passing two hundred seventy four yards three touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Also worth noting Joe Flacco two pick six, So a

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Speaker 2: lot of good from the the Houston offense, a lot

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Speaker 2: of good from the Houston defense. They advanced to the

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Speaker 2: next round of the playoffs after beating Cleveland forty five

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Speaker 2: to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, c J. Stroud is putting forth maybe

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Speaker 1: the best rookie season a quarterbacks ever had in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's it's unreal considering how he was not really talked

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Speaker 1: about before the season began, and it's just a joy

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Speaker 1: to watch him play. What he did today was extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: Let's not forget that that was the Browns defense. The

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns defense one of I don't care what metric

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Speaker 1: you look at, one of the two three best in

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Speaker 1: the league. A lot of people would say they are

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Speaker 1: the best defense in the league. And he shredded him.

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Speaker 1: He had two hundred and fifty yards a halftime in

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns. He was able to just kind of cruise

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Speaker 1: in the second half the way we saw him do

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Speaker 1: that a couple of weeks ago because it was over.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible to watch the slow the offensive coordinator there,

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Speaker 1: who's certainly getting interviews in this cycle. His name is

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Speaker 1: going up, no question, and what they're doing is just unreal.

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Speaker 1: It's extraordinary considering especially the injuries that they have sustained.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he has a ton of skill talent everywhere.

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Speaker 1: He's got guys out and he's still making plays. It's extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: Really is like he has become. When he's playing on TV.

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Speaker 1: I want to see him just about as badly as

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Speaker 1: anybody else in sports Right now. I just want to

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Speaker 1: Football League. It is. It's a joy. Like that game

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Speaker 1: Stroud is so much fun to watch. I tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the way things are trending, it looks as though

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Speaker 2: they will likely play the Ravens next round that I

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Speaker 2: don't know. That feels like a game where if he

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Speaker 2: forty five to fourteen. Fox Sports Radio Errors Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aer Tors Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: just joining us. Two finals in the NFL, the Houston

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Speaker 2: Texans take care of the Cleveland Browns in the early

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Speaker 2: game forty five to fourteen is a score there. Kansas

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Speaker 2: City in the late game twenty six to seven case

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Speaker 2: beats Miami. Miami just flatly looked like they did not

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Speaker 2: want to be there. Jason Crazy week at Sportsman, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna can I mentioned.

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Speaker 1: One thing real fast, just before before we get to

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Speaker 1: the more serious stuff. This has to be a wreck,

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be history. So I'm listening to the Westwood

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Speaker 1: one broadcast on a radio earlier of the game, the

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Speaker 1: first game. Okay, so you got Iron Eagle calling the

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Speaker 1: game with Jason mccordy. No what Eagle is calling the

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Speaker 1: game on TV and Devin mccordy is in the studio

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Speaker 1: for NBC. So you had two sets of relatives, the

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Speaker 1: father and son and twin brothers, both on the same day,

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Speaker 1: all broadcasting the same event simultaneously. There is no way

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Speaker 1: in the world that's ever happened before. I know that's nothing,

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Speaker 1: but it's just something that that piqued my interest. As

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Speaker 1: as it happened. It was just like, how is this

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Speaker 1: possible that we are watching this right now?

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Speaker 2: That is really interesting. I knew as soon as you

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Speaker 2: went there that that's where you're gonna go. I can't

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Speaker 2: think of anything that would even come close to resembling that. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm far from a sports media officionado, I will say

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Speaker 2: it was interesting. I was watching a game today college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Jamal Mashburn junior plays for Richard Patino at New Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Jamal Mashburn senior played for Rick Patino at Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's sort of kind of the same thing,

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Speaker 2: the double father son coaching son duo, but.

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Speaker 1: Could have been a triple with Collinsworth. It called the

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Speaker 1: game tonight, that's sure, Garrett. You could have literally had

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Speaker 1: three sets of relatives, that's right, doing some at the

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Speaker 1: same time. But the other thing is you had a

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Speaker 1: both sets. It was just it was just like, man,

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Speaker 1: that is uh, that's some small world stuff right there.

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Speaker 2: It is. It is. It's it's certainly interesting.

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Speaker 1: And just a little sidebar.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's no, it's it's interesting. I don't

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Speaker 2: really know what else to add other than that it

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Speaker 2: is interesting. I can't think of anything else anywhere close

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Speaker 2: to it happening. Let's go to the uh, let's go

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Speaker 2: to the NFL. Though, let's stay in the NFL. Didn't

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Speaker 2: want to ask you. So we're gonna spend a lot

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Speaker 2: of time in hour two talking NFL coaching, Carosel you

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Speaker 2: don't say yeah, and college football. We're we're gonna jam

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Speaker 2: like three weeks worth of stories just in the hour

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Speaker 2: two because hour three we actually have to preview the

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Speaker 2: remaining four games in the playoffs. So stay tuned for

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Speaker 2: hour two. We're gonna get to a lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 2: So my question for you was New England, and again

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about all these other openings in Belichick. Where

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Speaker 2: does he land? You know, hardball, that good stuff. My

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Speaker 2: question for you, though, is we do have one job

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Speaker 2: that has already been filled. That is in New England.

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Speaker 2: Gerrodmeyo takes over for Bill Belichick. And for people again

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Speaker 2: who missed the story yesterday, Girod Mayo, in his contract

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Speaker 2: was the coach in waiting. So that is how they

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Speaker 2: avoided the interview process, how they avoided any Rooney rule violations,

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Speaker 2: although I guess I don't know how that would have

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Speaker 2: worked because Girod Mayo is a minority but I bring

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Speaker 2: it up to say they didn't have to go through

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Speaker 2: the normal interview process with girod Mayo. He's the head

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Speaker 2: coach in New England. And I can't lie, Jason, I

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Speaker 2: was a little bit underwhelmed by this one, only from

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Speaker 2: the perspective that, you know, the Patriot way. It was great,

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Speaker 2: it was fun for a minute, and then the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years, you know, the Belichick stuff started to

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Speaker 2: kind of wear on people. Belichick's assistants don't have a

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Speaker 2: very good track record in the NFL. You got a

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Speaker 2: former player of Belichick, a former assistant of Belichick. I

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Speaker 2: feel like this is kind of just the same thing.

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Speaker 2: But what did you make of the first major domino

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Speaker 2: falling in terms of a hiring in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a no brainer in terms of

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Speaker 1: this is what was going to happen. Twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: before he got the gear.

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Speaker 2: I think the lines down Okay, okay, okay, because I

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Speaker 2: was gonna say a lot of people were talking Vrabel.

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Speaker 1: It was him a Vrabel. I mean, you knew it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be him a Vrabel. But when Vegas took

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Speaker 1: the lines down because he was such a favorite, you

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Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be him. Look, he played at

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and I used to host a show with a

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Speaker 1: guy who played with him in college, Romne Foster, and

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Speaker 1: I remember we interviewed Gerard years ago and jirob was

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Speaker 1: very measured in what he was saying, and he was

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Speaker 1: clearly at that point in time, really starting to look

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Speaker 1: towards his future as a head coach. And he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that pretty much intimated to us this was going

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Speaker 1: to happen a long long time ago. You know, they

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Speaker 1: had their succession planned. This is who the Patriots wanted,

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Speaker 1: this is this is the guy. He has a lot

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Speaker 1: of Belichick in him. Apparently they call him, you know,

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Speaker 1: Bill Junior or whatever like that. He's not You can't

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Speaker 1: look at to necessarily look at the history of Belichick

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Speaker 1: assistants and say this is what's going to happen. And

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Speaker 1: I think that the thing that has bothered me, if

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Speaker 1: there's been anything that's bothered me about sort of the

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Speaker 1: discourse surrounding the Mayo hire, it's only that, oh, you've

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Speaker 1: got to take a bigger swing than this. It's just like,

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Speaker 1: just because you don't know who he is doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: he's not good doesn't mean he can't be great. If

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about I would hire this guy

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Speaker 1: because of this. If you want me to give you

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Speaker 1: a reason why you don't hire a Jerii Mayo, it's

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Speaker 1: just simply that I don't like hiring defensive head coaches

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three because you're going to have a

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Speaker 1: rotating cast of offensive coordinators if any of them are good,

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Speaker 1: because they're going to keep getting jobs elsewhere. That's discourse

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Speaker 1: I can get behind if you want to have that discussion,

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Speaker 1: but don't get behind the well, he's not a star

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Speaker 1: name like Jim Harbaugh had been fine, but Jerii Mayo's

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Speaker 1: not because a lot of people don't know who Gerii

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Speaker 1: Mayo is. That's ridiculous. I mean a lot of people

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Speaker 1: know who Sean McVay was either. Think it worked out

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Speaker 1: pretty well, Like I think that that narrative is weak

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Speaker 1: and it needs to go. There are plenty of reasons

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Speaker 1: that we can have a logical discussion here, and we

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Speaker 1: can have a rational discussion. One of them should not

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Speaker 1: be the star power of the name Gerrodmeo. That's a

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Speaker 1: huge mistake, especially considering Kaylin de Boor, who will talk

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Speaker 1: about somebody nobody even knew his name a year ago

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Speaker 1: or a couple of years ago before he took the

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Speaker 1: not know who Caitlyn de Boor was until two years

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Speaker 1: ago when he took the Washington Gig. And you see

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Speaker 1: where he is now, and you see where he was

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Speaker 1: a week ago in a National championship game. So that

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Speaker 1: bothered me. Just because you don't know who he is

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's not good. It just means you don't

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Speaker 2: So I agree with everything is. I have no problem

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Speaker 2: with going young, going different again. Who knew who Sean

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Speaker 2: McVay was, who knew who Mike McDaniel was. But I

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Speaker 2: Belichick ties, plus all. I think, you know, it didn't

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Speaker 2: guess I'd just be a little bit concerned just just

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Speaker 2: is for Joe Flacco. And then in the late game

862
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: Kansas City and Miami twenty six to seven. Kansas City wins.

863
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: You could just see within minutes that Miami did not

864
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: want to be there, did not look comfortable in the elements.

865
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: We'll get back to the NFL in a little bit,

866
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: and we will also get to the four games coming

867
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: up here over the next two days, including now two

868
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: games on Monday night with the Buffalo Bills and the

869
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers being postponed from Tomorrow Sunday to Monday afternoon.

870
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: That said, Jason, busy week of college football. If you

871
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: had told let me put it this way, Jason, if

872
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: you had told me a week ago, we're gonna talk,

873
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna crown a national champion on Monday,

874
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: and there is going to be a bigger college football

875
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: related story than the national champion. I think I would

876
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: have said, there's only one thing that could possibly top that,

877
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: and that's Nick Saban retiring, but that'll never happen. Well

878
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: like Saban freaking retired on Wednesday. Jason, let me ask you.

879
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: I know you're not on on social media as much now,

880
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: jmart Radio. Is your Twitter handle x handle? Where were you?

881
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: Did you find out through social media? And the only

882
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: reason I ask is because credit to Chris Low from ESPN,

883
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: he broke the story. I want to say, Wednesday about

884
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: five o'clock Eastern time or so. And I think I

885
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: speak for a lot of people when I say I

886
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: did the double triple, quadruple check of is this his account?

887
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: Is this a verified account? Is this is this? Did

888
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: he get hacked? Then he see Adams chef to share it.

889
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: You see Pete Thame, all the all the big ESPN personalities.

890
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: Where were you? How did you find out that freaking

891
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: Nick Saban is retiring as a college football coach?

892
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: Jase. So, I had just left a meeting and I

893
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: was actually having a conversation with my dad. He was

894
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: in chair, I was in chair in there playing.

895
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad him sitting down.

896
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And we were talking about Mike Vrabel losing

897
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: his job and Pete Carroll and I looked over to

898
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: I just looked over to his television and he had

899
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: it on ESPN and the bottom line went red, and

900
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: I was like, well, okay, I guess this is Carol.

901
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: Even though it's not really breaking, it happened this morning.

902
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: And then I saw Sabin retires according to ESPN's low

903
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, did I just see that? I

904
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: did the same thing you did. Like, I look back,

905
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: and they went to break immediately because they weren't going

906
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: to a special report. They were in the middle of

907
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: one of their opinion shows. And I just said, is

908
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: that real? And so I immediately pulled out the phone

909
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: and googled it to find it. It wasn't there and

910
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: then I went to the athletic and I saw that

911
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: they had picked it up, and then ESPN took Lowe's

912
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: piece and of course put it up, and it was

913
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: just like, okay, all right. Then it was I mean,

914
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: this whole week, We'll never see anything like this again.

915
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: You had Carol, Belichick and Sabin all with news the

916
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: week of the National Championship Game, and at least two

917
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: of those trump the National Championship Game. The Saban thing.

918
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: Even though I predicted it a few years ago, I

919
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: was still stunned to see it actually happen in front

920
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: of me. I wasn't like I told you so, it

921
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: was more like, I mean, I guess I turned out

922
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: to be right, But I started to feel like prior,

923
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: like right there at the end of the year, maybe

924
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: he was maybe he was gonna prove me wrong, because

925
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: he still looked healthy, still look fine, and the team

926
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: had you know, he'd just done maybe his best coaching

927
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: job ever. But then you really stop and you look

928
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: back on it's just like, man, if he and Belichick

929
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: are as close as we think they are, if he's

930
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: watched kind of the bloom fall off the rows of

931
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Saban can get out now before this whole

932
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: new era even begins, and his legacy is intact. The

933
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: longer he stays, the chances are he's not going to

934
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: add to it, only gonna poke holes in it. And

935
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: there's nothing he has left to prove. So I can

936
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: see a very very good rationale from a health, from

937
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: a mental health, from an enjoy your life, from a

938
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, get paid to go talk on TV, enjoy

939
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: things with your family, whatever. There's a lot of reasons

940
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: why Nick Saban leaving right now makes a whole lot

941
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: of sense.

942
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: So I agree. And you know, one, obviously we've gotten

943
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: a lot of news since this story broke, but you know,

944
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: my first thought is, you know, something is there something bad?

945
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: Is there a health thing? And obviously we have found out,

946
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 2: at least according to Nick Saban, that it has nothing

947
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: to do with that. I think that was my exact thought, Jason,

948
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: is just you know, and we we do the whole

949
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: thing in the media of like not you and I

950
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 2: because I think we're a little more informed than maybe

951
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: the average person that's that's talking about this stuff. But

952
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: oh he's afraid of nil and oh the playing field. Uh,

953
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: you know, he's mad that everybody has access to players now,

954
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, I mean, he did just win

955
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: the SEC. I think he's doing just fine here. But

956
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: I do think when you really step back and you

957
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: really look at what college football is gonna be next year,

958
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, one just he talked on Thursday about the

959
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: grind of this season, about the grind of you know,

960
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: of of having to to to dig yourself out of

961
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 2: the hole with the Texas loss and the quarterback issues

962
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: and whatever, and I was thinking, like, next year, it's

963
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 2: only gonna be crazier. I mean, one, obviously the SEC

964
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: schedules get just bananas, but two, even beyond that, now

965
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: you have the twelve team playoff, where at minimum you're

966
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: looking at at least one extra postseason game. To win

967
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: a championship, you're gonna have to win a minimum of

968
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: three postseason games plus an SEC championship game, and then

969
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: maybe four depending on if you lose that SEC championship game.

970
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: And that's if you make it. And obviously there's gonna

971
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: be years where there's just too many good teams in

972
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: the SEC. And so I think that's that was my

973
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: take away as to why as well is I don't

974
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: think he's scared of the competition. I don't think he's this.

975
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he's that, but I do just think

976
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: I think there's Jim Harball parallel. Right, if Jim Harball leaves,

977
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: it's like, now's kind of the time, the Big Ten

978
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: is expanding. You won your championship, there's some legitimately good

979
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: NFL jobs open, You've done everything you said you were

980
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: gonna do when you went to Michigan. And that's the

981
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: parallel that I would make with Jim. With Nick Saban

982
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: is like I just think when I look at Nick Saban,

983
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: it's like this just feels like the time. He's still

984
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: in good health. The sport is changing rapidly. It's going

985
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: to change even more next year. Maybe this just wasn't

986
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: Maybe this just was the right time.

987
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's afraid of NIL.

988
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: I also think he wasn't looking forward to dealing with it.

989
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a nuisance. I think it's annoying. I

990
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: think it's not as fun as it used to be.

991
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, some coaches have caught him, and some coaches

992
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: are gonna make it harder for him. But I also

993
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: think he's in his seventies and he's already regarded as

994
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time. What else is there

995
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 1: left to do here? Like, there's not there's no real

996
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: good reason to stick around. There's not anything necessarily that's

997
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: going to be gained by sticking around unless he just

998
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: can't stop coaching. But I just I never really got

999
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: that sense about it. It is only going to become

1000
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: more of a grind, the recruiting grind, obviously, a twelve

1001
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: team playoff and all the things that you have to

1002
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: go through there, it does. It just it felt like

1003
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: the time to walk away because most people believed he

1004
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: had done a wonderful coaching job all year. It's one

1005
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: of the worst teams he'd had in a long time,

1006
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: and he still took the eventual national champions to overtime,

1007
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: double overtime or overtime and nearly beat them. And I

1008
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: just I think that you just look at that, you

1009
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: look at the landscape, your own age, and just do

1010
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: you want to do anything else with your life? Do

1011
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: you want to spend time with Terry? You know, do

1012
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: you want to maybe go I mean, he's good on TV,

1013
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: regardless of what people think of Nick Saban, and I

1014
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: know he's very controversial, but he's always compelling to me

1015
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: on TV. He's good. He's friends with a lot of

1016
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: ESPN guys, So I could see that definitely working out

1017
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: if he wanted it to. I think that, you know,

1018
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: with what college football is becoming and where it's going,

1019
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: it's not that it's a bygone era. But I don't

1020
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: think that he wanted to be a guy that was

1021
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: regarded as somebody who lost his fastball before he left,

1022
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: Like Bobby Bowden was awesome, but Bobby Bowden lost his

1023
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: fastball before he quit, before he retired, before it was over.

1024
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: There are very few opportunities to walk away on your

1025
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: own terms. Nobody was pushing for Nick Saban to leave,

1026
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: Nobody believed that he couldn't get the job done anymore.

1027
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: He was able to step away. He didn't win a championship,

1028
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: but he still managed to come awfully close with a

1029
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: team that didn't look like they were championship worthy a

1030
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: month into the season. So he gets that rare opportunity

1031
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: to walk off into the sunset and wave with people

1032
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: saying please don't go, as opposed to don't let the

1033
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: door hit you on the way out.

1034
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: Yes, and so really quickly because again we had a

1035
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: jam about a month's worth of stories into this next

1036
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: hour before we start to preview the four games next week.

1037
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: Caitlin Debower. Obviously a lot of people maybe didn't know

1038
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 2: much about him as of two weeks ago, but Pac

1039
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: twelve champion finishes fourteen to one, national runner up, they

1040
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: beat Texas in the College Football Playoff. He is your

1041
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: next Alabama coach. And you know, he had his press

1042
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: conference today. I think he sounded he said all the

1043
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: right things. You know, he said all the right things

1044
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: about Nick Saban. He said all the right things about recruiting.

1045
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: He's obviously a guy that doesn't have ties to the SEC.

1046
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: I think I'll say this. I think it's about as

1047
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: good as you could have done. And I understand that,

1048
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, there are certain guys that have more ties

1049
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: to the SEC or to Alabama or whatever. But I

1050
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: was one of those people that said, I don't know

1051
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: who could possibly want to replace Nick's and this will

1052
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: be a very tough job to fill because as great

1053
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: as the Alabama job is, like, who wants the task

1054
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: of replacing the goat? Well, I think all things consider,

1055
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: they did pretty well. And I think Calen de Bower again.

1056
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: We'll see if he works. We'll see if he's built

1057
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: for the SEC and he's built to recruit in the Southeast.

1058
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: But I thought the Higher itself was about as good

1059
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: as you could ask for.

1060
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's about as hot a name as you

1061
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: could find right now. Whoever you brought in, there was

1062
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a reason to say, well, he can't fill

1063
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's shoes, or history says this is gonna not

1064
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: go very well. It's like, well, right, that's because I mean,

1065
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: there's only one Nick Saban. History has never talked about

1066
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: anybody following Nick Saban because it's never really happened before,

1067
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: at least not this version of Nick Saban that's had

1068
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: all the success at Alabama. De Boer, if de Boer's

1069
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: name is never gonna be hotter than it is right now,

1070
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: he was never gonna be in a better spot because

1071
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna lose Penix. He's gonna lose Penis. And even

1072
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: though he was gonna have Rogers, I just don't think

1073
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Washington was set up to be that team again next year,

1074
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: the one that they had this year. Maybe so, but

1075
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so. When he was going to the

1076
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: big sen it was going to be even harder all

1077
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: of that. So you go ahead and take the gig

1078
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: and you go to Alabama where you have built in

1079
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: recruiting advantages because it's Alabama. Let's just say there's a

1080
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: better pipeline to Alabama than there is to the Pacific Northwest.

1081
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: Washington does very well. And one thing that you did

1082
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: note from Debor is he did great in the transfer portal.

1083
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: He's somebody that plucks some guys in that ended up

1084
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: being studs for him. And if he's able to do

1085
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: that at Alabama, it's gonna be fine. But if you

1086
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: didn't want de Boor, if you're an Alabama fan, who

1087
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: did you want Dabbo? I don't think so in twenty

1088
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: twenty three. I think that that might have been something

1089
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: for four years ago, but it's not for right now.

1090
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: And there's just not a lot of other names out

1091
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: there that would have made any sense. Nothing is going

1092
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: to be Nick No, nothing is going to be Nick

1093
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: Saban two point zero. So go get a young guy

1094
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: who's had success everywhere he's been and don't don't you

1095
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: know Poo poo the Naia and Fresno State and everything else.

1096
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: Look at what he's done, and hopefully you can lure

1097
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: gru Ub with him. Now. Washington, I'm sure might try

1098
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: to throw money to keep Grub there to be the

1099
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: head coach. But Grub the offensive coordinator who was really

1100
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: one of the masterminds of everything they were doing. I

1101
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: think it's crucial to try and get him to come

1102
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: with you if you can. But I don't. I just

1103
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: kind of said, okay, all right, Kevilyn the boor that

1104
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: makes sense. The only other name that I liked was Lanning, right,

1105
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: I thought that Lanning made a lot of sense. But

1106
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: Lanning I think did the right thing. First off, Oregon's

1107
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: gonna love him. The fan base is gonna love him

1108
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: for that video that he put up saying that he

1109
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: loves what he has. It's a great thing. And guess what,

1110
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: the guy that Alabama ended up getting beat Dan Lanning

1111
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: twice this past year. So I think that I think

1112
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: anybody that is disappointed here, I just want you to

1113
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: tell me who it was that was going to be better.

1114
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: And don't tell me Kirby Smart because that's insane. That

1115
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: was never going to happen.

1116
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was nobody that it appears as though would

1117
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: have seriously taken the job that you can argue is better.

1118
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: I mean, there was some that said, well what about

1119
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian. I don't think that he was ever going

1120
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: to take the job, by the way, either, Kalen de

1121
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Bor beat him in the College Watch job. So listen.

1122
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: I get it's one of those. It's weird because I

1123
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: get the trepidation, I get the concern. I get that

1124
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: sometimes when you bring in somebody who has never been

1125
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: in the SEC by the way, the anti people will

1126
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: make the parallel. Alburn a few years ago hired Brian

1127
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: Harrison exactly from the Pacific Northwest, had never been there,

1128
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: and he flamed out in two years. This feels way, way,

1129
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: way different. And again, you know, if you want to wait, listen,

1130
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: if you're a fan that wants to wait till September, October, November,

1131
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: December to judge this guy, I totally get it. All

1132
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: I will say is all I will say is that

1133
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: press conference today. I did get a chance to watch

1134
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: a little bit of it. He said all the right things.

1135
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: The resume speaks for itself. Now it's time to go

1136
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: out and do it. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin

1137
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios. When we

1138
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 2: come back, we'll talk about what we thought was gonna

1139
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: be the biggest story of the seat of the week,

1140
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: Michigan National championship. What's next for them? Just as importantly,

1141
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: what's next for Jim Harbaugh. This is Fox Sports Radio.

1142
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er Torris, Jason Martin.

1143
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tirereck dot Com studios.

1144
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: For the break, we were talking a little college football.

1145
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: Felt like there was basically no story that could supplant,

1146
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: at least in college football Michigan winning the national championship.

1147
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: That next tape we went and retired. We just discussed that.

1148
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: If you missed any of that, make sure to download

1149
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: the podcast available shortly after the show. By the way,

1150
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: looking right.

1151
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Now, ball the way, if you just tuned in, Texans

1152
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Dominated and the Chief speak the Dolphins, And yes, by

1153
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: the way, j Charle's awesome in the second game, what's

1154
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: talking about Andy Reid's mustache?

1155
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: So why I hesitated there? Ryan Grubb, who is the

1156
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator of the University of Washington, he seemed like

1157
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: a logical successor, released a statement at nine to seventeen

1158
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: right as we were going to break. It's a lot

1159
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: of words. I will not read all of it, but

1160
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: it reads as though he is not getting the job

1161
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: he said. It ends by saying, and I am so

1162
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: blessed to have been here. Thank you all for the

1163
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: support and belief to you gave me and my family.

1164
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: We will always love Seattle to my players. I am

1165
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: sorry I could not finish the fight. Love you go dogs.

1166
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: Coach Grub. Maybe it means nothing. Feels like a weird

1167
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: thing to release unless you were pretty sure that you

1168
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 2: were not going to be back as part of the

1169
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: coaching staf right.

1170
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was mentioning for the break. If

1171
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: you could get him, I'm sure the board would like

1172
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: to get him back and make him the OC at Alabama,

1173
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: which would set him in motion to get a head

1174
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: coaching job somewhere, even though there are other jobs that

1175
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: he could potentially get. But you don't release that statement

1176
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: if you're about to become the head coach at Washington,

1177
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: that means they're moving on. They're going somewhere else, and

1178
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we'll see. We've seen some of

1179
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: those names pop up, lancelt Pold, and there have been

1180
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: a few Chris Kleiman. I think's name has been out

1181
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: there as well. But yeah, you don't release that statement

1182
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: if you're then going to become the coach.

1183
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: You know, there is a national championship winning college football

1184
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: coach that's in Seattle right now.

1185
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. Pop. That seems really odd

1186
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: to me. That just seems odd to me.

1187
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: It was funny because when he got fired, as you said,

1188
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: a few hours before Nick Saban announced his retirement, I

1189
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: did say, like I said, I was like, you know,

1190
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: I'll say this is I think Pete Carroll is weirdly

1191
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: more built for college football now than he was when

1192
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: he left in terms of the portal and nil. And

1193
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: then I said, oh, I mean he's seventy two years old. Yeah,

1194
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: that's old. But I mean Nick Saban's still going strong.

1195
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: So obviously that story changed quite a bit.

1196
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: I don't get the sense that he is a candidate

1198
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: for Washington, and I certainly don't get the sense that

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01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: he is going to come back to college football in

1200
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: any way, shape or for him. He does want to coach, though,

1201
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: we'll talk about him in a minute. Really quickly, just

1202
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: let's put a ball on college football. I mean, I

1203
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: don't know what else Sir is to say about Michigan

1204
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: that hasn't already been said by the guys and girls

1205
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: on this network. I was happy for them. I thought

1206
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: it was a great you know, I personally thought it

1207
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: was a great cap to a three year run that

1208
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: they have been on. You know, people wanted Hardball fired

1209
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: after the COVID season. He made a lot of changes

1210
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: to his staff, the players, and I don't know. I

1211
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: just thought it was a great story. I know a

1212
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: lot of people think it was marred by these science investigation.

1213
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: I think when you fire counter stallions and then you

1214
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: beat Penn State, you beat Ohio State without Jim Harbour

1215
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: on the sidelines, you go to the playoff, you beat

1216
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: the SEC champ, you beat an undefeated PAC twelve champ,

1217
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: it left no doubt to me. I thought they were

1218
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: the best team this season. I thought they were deserving

1219
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: national champion. I thought it was a cool end to

1220
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: a three year run for them, And that was my

1221
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 2: only takeaway was cool story. I don't know that there's

1222
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: much more. Did you have anything any big picture takeaways

1223
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: for Monday Night?

1224
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: Nothing other than congratulations to them, Congratulations to those young

1225
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: men they succeeded. I mean, you look at Blake Krum

1226
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: decided to come back to school and they won a

1227
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: national championship. And McCarthy, even though he wasn't like he

1228
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: made a couple of big plays in a national championship game,

1229
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: but he wasn't called upon to win the thing. But

1230
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: he had a big crucial scramble, for instance, on a

1231
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: third down when that game was still out there to

1232
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: be taken. Washington just couldn't find a way to get

1233
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: in the end zone fast enough when they had the

1234
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: ball on the second half. Just just a bad night

1235
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: for Michael Pennix. And I think that it seems very

1236
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: interesting that a lot of guys have bad nights against Michigan.

1237
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think.

1238
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: It is high time to pay real respect to Michigan's

1239
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: defense and real respect to their own line. Even with

1240
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: the injury that they sustained to their leader, they were

1241
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: still good enough. They were still very, very good. I

1242
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: think it's time to pay homage to Harball in terms

1243
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: of what a coach he is. Regardless of scandal or

1244
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: asterisk or whatever it is that you want to put

1245
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: on it, you can't deny how good he is at

1246
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: the job. And I still I kind of want to

1247
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: see him go to the NFL now because I just

1248
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: still think he's more built for that world. And I

1249
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: also want to see Sharon Moore get the job, like

1250
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: I would like to see them not go outside and

1251
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: actually give it to the guy who had the helm

1252
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: when Harball was sent away. And I would love to

1253
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: see what Sharon Moore could do if Harball does leave.

1254
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: Would be a massive mistake for Michigan to hire anybody else.

1255
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: If Hardball does leave.

1256
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: Well, I think the only real candidate that probably would

1257
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: have taken the job just got hired at Alabama. And yeah,

1258
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: I don't think there's that you know, quote unquote, you know,

1259
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: national championship caliber coach that's just sitting out there. I

1260
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: will say, you know, listen, I I weirdly, you know,

1261
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: I do hope Jim Harbaugh comes back, But I also

1262
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: don't really see the argument as to why he would.

1263
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: We know he's been interested in the NFL. He's interviewed

1264
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: for jobs each of the last two off seasons, you know,

1265
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: super plugged in. People like Bernie Frattle will tell you

1266
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: that losing in that Super Bowl is always not at him.

1267
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,959
Speaker 2: He's always wanted to get back to the league. And

1268
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: it's kind of the same thing that we talked about

1269
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: a minute ago, is that I just don't know, you're

1270
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: coming back into a tougher era of college football. Big

1271
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: Ten's gonna be better, The Playoff's going to be harder

1272
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: to win. You know, this year just they were the

1273
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: best team, They were the deserving team, but a lot

1274
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: of things broke right. You know, Georgia was probably a

1275
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: tougher matchup for them than Bama ended up being. Easily

1276
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: could have lost to Obama in that semi final. So

1277
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: if I'm Jim Harbaugh, I probably do leave. But I

1278
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: also you know, as a college football fan, I'll be sad,

1279
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: but I think it's probably the right decision if that's

1280
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: what he decides. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what.

1281
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Speaker 1: I would just say real let me say this real fast.

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Speaker 1: I would just say it's I would leave because it

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01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: was so hard to get this done, exactly to win

1284
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: this national championship. I don't mean this year. I mean

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01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: the very beginning, like the whole task at Michigan, almost

1286
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: losing your gig, having the staff changes, having people calling

1287
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: for your head left and right, having to find a

1288
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: way to finally get the Ohio State monkey off your back,

1289
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: and then doing it three years in a row. Whatever

1290
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: the scandals are and all that, but the recruiting grind

1291
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: that's constant. And then it goes to overtime against Alabama.

1292
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: You escape that, and then you get by Washington in

1293
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: the National Championship games. It was so hard, so taxing

1294
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: to do this once. You still don't have an NFL championship,

1295
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: but you've already done this. Ride high and ride out now,

1296
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: so that your lasting impression is I'm a National championship

1297
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: coach that's going to go try his hand again in

1298
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Speaker 1: the NFL. I just think now is the perfect opportunity

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Speaker 1: to leave.

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Speaker 2: With all that in mind, it's hard for me to disagree,

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: even as a college football fan. I do want Jim

1302
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: Harbaugh back. Fox Sports Radio Air Torris Jason Martin broadcasting

1303
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 2: live from the Tirec dot Com studios. We'll come back

1304
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: and we'll discuss what could be next for Jim Harbaugh

1305
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: if it's not Michigan. Before we do, though, Steve de Sager,

1306
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: what is trending? My friend?

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01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 6: We'll get to the Chiefs and Texans win. But you

1308
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 6: guys were talking about the Michigan defense. What is one

1309
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 6: thing we kept mentioning on this Saturday Night show throughout

1310
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 6: the season. You know, Michigan doesn't play a ranked team

1311
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 6: until mid November when they're at Penn State. But they

1312
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 6: weren't just beating the lesser team, and they were slaughtering

1313
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 6: them week after week.

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01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: Well, and that's why, like when people try to throw

1315
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: out so I mean it's a tainted championship, it's like

1316
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: they beat Minnesota fifty two to three or forty eight,

1317
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: Like they weren't beating Minnesota because they were still excited.

1318
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: They were beating Minnesota because they were way better than them.

1319
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 6: When they started nine to zero against a collection of

1320
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 6: you could say nobody's including Michigan State this year was nobody,

1321
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 6: but only one team scored more than ten points. It

1322
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 6: was a bunch of fifty to ten type of games.

1323
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 6: Which brings me to something we always say on the

1324
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 6: Sunday Night Show, and that is good is good. And

1325
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 6: my example always goes back to college hoops thirty plus

1326
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 6: years ago. In college hoops final four team was from

1327
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 6: the Big West Conference, it was UNLV, but you know what,

1328
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 6: they were good. It doesn't matter where they were from.

1329
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: Gonzaga with nine NBA players on the roster.

1330
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Bengo, I don't care what comes. As far as

1331
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 6: Michigan schedule. This coming year, they have home game against Texas,

1332
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 6: home game against USC home game against Oregon, and Michigan

1333
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 6: will be at Washington in early October.

1334
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Speaker 2: I think they play Ohio State at some point they do.

1335
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: I believe you think too. That is worth noting, which

1336
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: I didn't even mention before. They're going away from divisions,

1337
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: so now you could have to play Ohio State a

1338
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: second time, Oregon a second time. Continue to sagre, but

1339
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: these are all reasons why it probably makes sense for Harbada.

1340
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Speaker 6: It is still scheduled for next year. It's your last

1341
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 6: game playing at Ohio State, and then the very next

1342
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 6: Saturday you could be in the Big Ten title game. Yes,

1343
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 6: Texas was in the news today. By the way, there

1344
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 6: was the Athletic yesterday talking about negotiations on an extension.

1345
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 6: Texas announced the four year extension with head football coach

1346
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 6: Steve Sarkeesian through twenty thirty and former Washington State quarterback

1347
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 6: Cam Ward committed to the University of Miami. A couple

1348
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 6: of weeks ago. He had declared for the NFL Draft.

1349
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 6: Now he is going to use his last year of eligibility.

1350
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 6: A reminder in the NFL, Tomorrow's Pittsburgh at Buffalo playoff

1351
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 6: game was postponed a Monday due to the snowstorm in

1352
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 6: the city and there's a travel ban in that county tonight.

1353
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 6: Remember the original plan was tonight, Literally right now, any

1354
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 6: fan that wanted to get twenty bucks an hour go

1355
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 6: shovel snow out of the bill Stadium. And now literally

1356
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 6: nobody can travel in town to do anything, and they've

1357
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 6: pushed the game back to Monday, four thirty pm Eastern

1358
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 6: time forecast for Buffalo then twenty degrees snow before the game,

1359
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 6: mostly but windy. You thought it was wendy at Kansas

1360
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 6: City tonight, it certainly will be in Buffalo. If Buffalo

1361
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,919
Speaker 6: wins this weekend, it'll be Kansas City at Buffalo next weekend,

1362
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 6: when it'll be about twenty degrees in windy all over again.

1363
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 6: And for the Bills, wide receiver Gabe Davis is out

1364
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 6: for this game with a knee injury, as his safety

1365
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 6: Taylor Rap with a calf injury. For Pittsburgh, of course,

1366
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 6: TJ Watt out with his knee injury, but running back

1367
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 6: Najie Harris returned to full practice yesterday, and safety Minka

1368
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 6: Fitzpatrick said he will play. He's missed the last three

1369
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 6: games with the knee injury. The bad news for Pittsburgh

1370
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 6: is really not the weather, because they haven't had an

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01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 6: offense in good weather this year. Pittsburgh with only thirteen

1372
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 6: touchdown receptions all season thirteen. San Francisco had thirty three.

1373
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 6: By comparison, Kansas. He won its home game against Miami

1374
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 6: twenty six to seven. Rashi Rice eight catches, one hundred

1375
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 6: and thirty yards in a touchdown Tyreek Hill backing kse

1376
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 6: At a fifty three yard touchdown reception. Otherwise, he had

1377
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 6: four catches nine yards for the Dolphins Tonight, Raheem Mostered

1378
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 6: at running back was active, had eight carries thirty three yards.

1379
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 6: Wide receiver Jalen Waddle had also battled injuries but was active.

1380
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 6: He had two catches. This is a Miami team that

1381
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 6: importantly tied for first in the AFC East, but they

1382
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 6: lost two times to Buffalo, so they were in the

1383
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 6: cold on the road. Tonight. Temperature at kickoff was minus

1384
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 6: four degrees. This is a Miami team that started the

1385
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 6: year five and one, defeated five non playoff teams, and

1386
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 6: then went six and six the rest of the way.

1387
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Speaker 6: Tonight's contest in case, by the way, one of the

1388
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 6: five coldest games in the history of the NFL. At Houston,

1389
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,879
Speaker 6: the Texans eliminated Cleveland forty five fourteen. It was seventeen

1390
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 6: fourteen late in the first half.

1391
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Speaker 7: CJ.

1392
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Speaker 6: Stroud three touchdown passes, a rookie playoff record, Nico Collins

1393
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 6: catches ninety six yards in a TV Joe Flacco threw

1394
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 6: pick sixes on back to back drives in the third quarter.

1395
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 6: He was also sacked four times.

1396
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 1: Today.

1397
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Speaker 6: Remember, on December twenty fourth, Cleveland had just played at

1398
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 6: Houston and beat them thirty six twenty two. Amari Cooper

1399
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 6: had a monster game, but c J. Stroud did not

1400
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,839
Speaker 6: play that game due to a concussion. So the Texans

1401
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 6: could be playing at number one seed Baltimore next week

1402
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 6: if there are no AFC upsets in this weekend. In

1403
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 6: the postseason, Baltimore would be a challenge, not just because

1404
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 6: they're the one seed, not just because they were coming

1405
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 6: off a first round by or they would be the

1406
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 6: Ravens and they've had to cycle through running Backs are

1407
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 6: the number one rushing team in the league, and Baltimore's

1408
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 6: defense has allowed just sixteen and a half points a game,

1409
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 6: best in the NFL. Baltimore has the most sacks in

1410
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 6: the NFL this year with sixty. Philadelphia is playing Monday

1411
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 6: night at Tampa Bay could be raining. Wide receiver AJ

1412
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 6: Brown of the Eagles, with his knee injury, is out

1413
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 6: for that game. The late NBA contest went to Utah

1414
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 6: over the Lakers one thirty two to one twenty five.

1415
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 6: Lakers record nineteen and twenty one. Milwaukee beat Golden State

1416
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 6: one twenty nine one eighteen, Warriors record eighteen and twenty one.

1417
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 6: And in college hoops Top ten, we had three upsets.

1418
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 6: TCU beat number two Houston sixty eight sixty seven Houston Cougar's.

1419
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 6: We were just mentioning on last weekend show they were

1420
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 6: the last of the undefeateds in college basketball this year.

1421
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 6: They're now fourteen and two, and it was Texas A

1422
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,919
Speaker 6: and M at home in overtime defeating number six Kentucky

1423
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 6: ninety seven ninety two, and at Washington State Cougar's over

1424
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 6: number eight Arizona seventy three to seventy.

1425
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: Back to you thank you very much. Steve de Seger,

1426
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday or Tours. Jason Martin

1427
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thee tyreck dot Com Studios. A lot,

1428
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 2: there's a lot to dive into, j Sebbi. You know,

1429
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: we just talked Harbaugh. I think there was a report

1430
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: today that he will speak with the Los Angeles Chargers

1431
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: next week. First of all, whether it is the Chargers

1432
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: or anything else, is there any real reason for you

1433
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: to think, think for any of us to think that

1434
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: he won't be in the NFL next year? Like, I

1435
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: know that's kind of a random question, but yeah, go ahead,

1436
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead.

1437
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: No, I mean, it doesn't require much exposition. Just no,

1438
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: not really. If it doesn't happen, now, you stuck to

1439
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: wonder if it ever will. But there's not really any

1440
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: reason for it not to unless they're just not the

1441
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: right opportunity for him, and I think, I mean, the

1442
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 1: Chargers are the right fit. Now, you've also seen that

1443
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: report of other teams could potentially offer the opportunity for

1444
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: him to go get McCarthy if he wanted McCarthy to

1445
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: be his quarterback, that's been out there. If the Chargers

1446
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: offer him that job, if they're actually willing to pay

1447
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: the money, which they've said they are, then he'll take

1448
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: that job. I can't imagine him turning the Chargers down,

1449
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: especially with his ties to that community from his days

1450
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: at USD to just all the success he's had in

1451
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: that state and how much coaching experience he has in

1452
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: that state as well. And you get that quarterback, I

1453
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: can't imagine you turned that down, and you look at

1454
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: some of the other opportunities that are maybe out there.

1455
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are gonna go with Antonio Peers.

1456
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: I know he interviewed here in Nashville today with the Titans,

1457
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna be the Raiders head coach,

1458
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: not because of what Max Crosby said, but because I

1459
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: think he's the right guy for the gig, and you

1460
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: can see how hard they played for him. But I

1461
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: don't know what the other scenarios are that would make

1462
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: sense for Jim Harbaugh necessarily. But I think the Chargers,

1463
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm not go ahead and predict it right now. I

1464
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: actually think they're gonna poney up. I think Carball is

1465
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: gonna be the next head coach with the Chargers.

1466
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 2: I do I have, you know, spoken quite a bit

1467
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: about this, the idea of them not spending money in

1468
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: the past on headed coaches. I do think by the way,

1469
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: they weirdly today they interviewed Mike McDonald, who's not only

1470
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,799
Speaker 2: the Ravens defensive coordinator, he was also formerly Michigan's defensive coordinator.

1471
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: So it's kind of a weird tie there. I listen,

1472
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sourced on this. I don't have insight into

1473
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 2: the building. I do think though that I do think

1474
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: they kind of understand, like, especially by the way, with

1475
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: the candidates that are available right, like this is a

1476
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: historic group of candidates when you talk about multiple Super

1477
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: Bowl winning coaches in Pete Carroll, and and and and

1478
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, and Pete Carroll indicated that he wants to

1479
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 2: coach again. Obviously, Jim Harbaugh is a guy who coached

1480
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl, and it's pretty well known that

1481
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 2: you have the best opening available. Plus Mike Vrabel, by

1482
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 2: the way, who was you know, won a lot of games,

1483
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: gotten a number one seed. Like this is an unbelievable

1484
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: coaching group, and it's like, I do think there is

1485
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: something to them as an organization kind of understanding like

1486
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: we can't we can't go you know, a coordinator for

1487
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: six million dollars a year when you know, when when

1488
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 2: everybody else is paying ten, twelve, fifteen, t twenty millions.

1489
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: So we will see. I'm with you. I think that

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Speaker 2: from Harbaugh's perspective, that has to be the job. I

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Speaker 2: will say, and I was thinking about this, is that,

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Speaker 2: you know, Washington, the commanders feel like they would kind

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Speaker 2: of make sense. You know, obviously his brother's right up

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Speaker 2: the road. You'd have the number two overall pick, which

1495
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Speaker 2: means that you kind of get your choice of quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But I think if and when he goes, and I

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Speaker 2: think right now he's going to I would think that

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Speaker 2: it's the Chargers as well. Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: plenty to discuss on all things NFL college football. Stay

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Speaker 2: tuned to us for another what fifty eight minutes, and

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Speaker 2: of course stay tuned afterwards as Bernie Fratto will have

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Speaker 2: plenty to discuss here in just a bit, Jason, before

1515
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: the break, I don't spend a ton of time on this,

1516
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: but we were talking Belichick and you said you didn't

1517
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: really see a natural fit for him. I will say

1518
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 2: I do think Washington makes sense kind of that Northeast corridor.

1519
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 2: You start overs from scratch with a new quarterback. I

1520
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: still believe Bill Belichick with Josh McDaniels, assuming that they

1521
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: are a packaged deal. I don't think that's the worst

1522
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: thing in the world. You know, two years ago, three

1523
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 2: seasons ago, you know, Josh McDaniels was in New England.

1524
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 2: They won ten games and made the playoffs with with

1525
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: Mac Jones as a rookie quarterback. Now, they weren't insane offensively,

1526
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: but they weren't terrible either. I do want to throw

1527
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: out two hypotheticals to you, and it isn't even necessarily

1528
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, but we could talk about him. Do you think,

1529
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 2: especially based on some of the comments that Jerry Jones made,

1530
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: if the Cowboys lose tomorrow at home to the Packers,

1531
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: do you believe Mike McCarthy will potentially lose his or

1532
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 2: now I don't say potentially, because anything is potential. Do

1533
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: you think Mike McCarthy will lose his job if the

1534
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,440
Speaker 2: Cowboys lose to the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow if it's embarrassing, maybe, but I don't get the

1536
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 1: sense that he's on the hot seat. If they were

1537
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,520
Speaker 1: to get absolutely just demolished, if it was an embarrassing

1538
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: kind of loss, then maybe maybe, Because I don't know

1539
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: if he has the same level of love for McCarthy

1540
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: as he did for Jason Garrett. So I don't know

1541
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: how long he's gonna stand by him, meaning Jerry Jones

1542
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: in this case, and allow McCarthy to stay there when

1543
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: there are other big names out there to be to

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01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: be gotten. When I was when we were talking about

1545
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: Harball earlier and saying I have now predicted I believe

1546
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: he'll be the next coach with the Chargers. I would

1547
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean, would a big swing like a Belichick make

1548
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: sense in Dallas potentially, But the one that would make

1549
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: the most sense is to try and throw everything at

1550
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: Harball if you believe in that Harball's a little bit younger.

1551
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Dallas. I mean think about just the glitz

1552
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: and the glamour of Harball there, and I mean it

1553
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: fits Dallas in so many ways. Well, the bluster, the attitude,

1554
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: the controversy, all everything about it fits and just the

1555
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: coaching acum.

1556
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: Let me jump in on something else too, as far

1557
01:18:55,880 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: as Harbaugh potentially versus Belichick in Dallas, again, I'm with you.

1558
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: And the thing about McCarthy is they have like weird losses,

1559
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 2: but barely do they just get their brains beat in

1560
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: unless the team is upper level San Francisco forty nine

1561
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: ers clearly superior Buffalo Bills, you know whatever. They don't

1562
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: get blown out by bad teams. But what I would

1563
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: say about Harbaugh too, and this is gonna be sound

1564
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: kind of weird because obviously a lot of talk is

1565
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: is he gonna have player personal control or whatever? I

1566
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: think Jerry's public persona, the multiple interviews a week, he

1567
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: has his own radio show, he does his own press conference.

1568
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 2: I think it goes without saying that with Belichick could

1569
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: be oil and water. You know, Belichick barely speaks himself,

1570
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 2: doesn't let his assistants talk one message out of the building, whatever,

1571
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. I weirdly, I don't think Harball

1572
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: would be as annoyed or frustrated with that element of

1573
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. Like that was a sticking point for Jimmy Johnson,

1574
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: it was sticking point for Bill Parcels. It would be,

1575
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: in my opinion, a sticking point for Bill Belichick. I

1576
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: just kinda think Harball's his own dude. He lets everything

1577
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 2: kind of roll off his shoulders, you know. I mean

1578
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 2: you look at how he handled everything this year at Michigan.

1579
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: You can agree or disagree on the severity of it.

1580
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: Did it, you know, involve help them win a championship?

1581
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: You could debate that whatever. I just bring it up

1582
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: because it all just rolled off his shoulders. And I

1583
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: think if Jerry said something crazy in a press conference,

1584
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: or he talked about a player like I think Arbo

1585
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: would just be like, yeah, whatever. I don't know that

1586
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: that part of it to me. With Jerry, I don't

1587
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: think is as big of a deal. Jerry kind of

1588
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 2: being his own public persona.

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Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. I mean, I definitely think

1590
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:44,919
Speaker 1: that that would not work very well with Belichick. Harball.

1591
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: I think would just kind of laugh it off and

1592
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I'll I'll just coach the football team.

1593
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,560
Speaker 1: And I mean there's going to be attention to him anyway,

1594
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: because he draws it in. But I don't think that

1595
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: he would be threatened by Jerry Jones talking. But I mean,

1596
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: I know you would have to be the right guy

1597
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 1: for that. I would have potentially mentioned Seattle for Belichick,

1598
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: but I just think dan Quinn's gonna get that job. Yeah,

1599
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: Like I've just kind of felt that way the whole time.

1600
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: For whether that's the right call or not. That one

1601
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: just kind of that one kind of fits. The Washington

1602
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: one is interesting, I don't know. And they're gonna spend

1603
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: money too. New ownership. Yeah, rich guy, you know rich

1604
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: ownership group in general, this is your first hire. Well

1605
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: you chew on that, I'm gonna ask you another team.

1606
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: Another hypothetical. Okay, as I've heard I've heard this pick

1607
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: up steam this week and I don't know if it's

1608
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: only because one person said it and it's a good

1609
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: talking point, so why not talk about it, or whether

1610
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: it actually is any real steam. Do you think if

1611
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: the Eagles get embarrassed on Monday Night that they could

1612
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: move off? Nick Sirianni, and I'll just lay out the

1613
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: argument is obviously, as you have pointed out since August, Jay,

1614
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,879
Speaker 2: you know, they lost two defense they lost two coordinators

1615
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 2: from last year's team. Clearly were not the same team

1616
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: this year clearly fell apart late. And I do think,

1617
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: like the Week eighteen loss to the Giants in the

1618
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: manner in which it happened, like it's one thing, Okay,

1619
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: you know you're losing to the Cowboys and the forty

1620
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: nine ers and even the Seahawks, Okay, it's a weird

1621
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: Monday night game, whatever, but you get embarrassed on the

1622
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: final game of the season, Like Jason, I'll be honest,

1623
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: I was doing stuff around the house last week during

1624
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 2: that second window, and when I saw the score of

1625
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: the of the Giants Eagles game, I just assumed, for

1626
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: reasons that I didn't understand that the Eagles arresting their starters.

1627
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, they just must not be playing their guys,

1628
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh no, they're playing their guys and

1629
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor looks like vintage whoever you know, Peyton Manning

1630
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 2: or Lamar Jackson or whatever. So I don't think it

1631
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: would happen, but it seemed to have picked up steam.

1632
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 2: Is if you get embarrassed against a not very good

1633
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 2: Buck team on Monday night after the way the season ended,

1634
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 2: and by the way, Philly has kind of a short,

1635
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: short leash in some cases. You know, they got rid

1636
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: of Peterson faster than some people thought they should got

1637
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: rid of ship Kelly in year three. Do you think

1638
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,839
Speaker 2: there's any chance that Nick Sirianni, if they get embarrassed,

1639
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 2: would be out of a job.

1640
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely gone south, but there would have

1641
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: to be a lot of stuff behind the scenes that

1642
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: we don't know about. And maybe those stories are going

1643
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: to be written, like maybe they're yet to be written,

1644
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: but they're legit. I was a little skeptical going into

1645
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: the year, as you know, and as you mentioned, with

1646
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: the coordinators leaving, where was the magic really? Was it

1647
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Gannon? Was it with certainly Stiching? And was

1648
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: he the engine that made that offense go well. I mean,

1649
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: there's some cracks in the foundation. Don't have AJ Brown

1650
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: playing on Monday night. I got the Aj Brown full

1651
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 1: experience here in Nashville, and I saw when it started

1652
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: to turn how he began to act and react, and

1653
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: he's starting to do some of that stuff in philadelp

1654
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: now that things are not going as well. He's wiping

1655
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: all social media ties to the Eagles all of a sudden,

1656
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: and he's out of the game on Monday after not

1657
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: really missing much time at all since he got there,

1658
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: and he missed a good bit of time while he

1659
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: was here. Hurts doesn't look like the same player, and

1660
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: he's been banged up this year. The defense is an embarrassment.

1661
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: Like I mean, they've been absolutely terrible this year pretty

1662
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: much on all levels, the exception of just a couple

1663
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: of guys. So it isn't good. But the question is

1664
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: is there a toxic environment or are they just having

1665
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: the kind of year that Super Bowl runner up often does.

1666
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 1: And it would seem to me to be awfully quick

1667
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: to jump off, Sirianni unless there's a lot that we

1668
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: don't know behind the scenes. That said, I'm not sure

1669
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: Sirianni's that good and I have kind of felt this

1670
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: way from the outset. So if they were to move

1671
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: off of him, then I would be looking for the

1672
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: to indicate why this went so wrong, because I don't

1673
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: think that you can do what he did last year

1674
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: and then do what he did this year and conclude

1675
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: that this year's guy is the real Nick Sirianni unless

1676
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: there's more than meets the eye that we don't know

1677
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: that we would then maybe be privy to.

1678
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the reason I bring up Philadelphia is and

1679
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 2: this is something I did hear. Nick Wright was the

1680
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 2: first one to say. This is like that one Jason,

1681
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: you know, you talk about it Bill Belichick landing spot

1682
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: and I don't know if they would go there, but

1683
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks basically set. The defense has so many dudes,

1684
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: and you know, the secondary needs some work. That's kind

1685
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: of Belichick's one of his areas of expertise, and they're

1686
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 2: obviously right there. And like that's the thing with Belichick

1687
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 2: and it it kind of goes without saying you don't

1688
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 2: really need me to, you know, tell you is that

1689
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: if you hire Belichick, your window is essentially what three

1690
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 2: You know, if you're if everything breaks right, maybe five years,

1691
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: but probably closer to three. So that would be the

1692
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 2: one that, in my opinion, like if it were to open,

1693
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 2: I think it would actually be very good for both

1694
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 2: sides really quickly. We should probably at least reference and

1695
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: by the way, if you have anything on Belichick, feel

1696
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: free to hop on in, but should at least reference

1697
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: the fact that there were two NFL games. We led

1698
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 2: the show talking about both of them. Houston dominant win

1699
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: over the Cleveland Browns forty five to fourteen, case with

1700
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: a dominant win over the Miami Dolphins twenty six to seven.

1701
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 2: Any if I just ask you biggest takeaway from either

1702
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: of these games, what would you say?

1703
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: It is? C J. Stroud, Sure, it's probably it. I mean, really,

1704
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's what it is. I mean, this was

1705
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: his first opportunity, and he took advantage of it. And

1706
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: he didn't take advantage of it against a bad defense.

1707
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: He took he took him at one of the best

1708
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: defenses in the league, and he absolutely lifted them up

1709
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: in the first half. And Flacco kind of became Flacco

1710
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: at thirty nine. And it was just a rough day,

1711
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: and it was just a day where you saw the

1712
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: Texans coming like this Texans team, they don't look like

1713
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: a fluke. They look like they're gonna be heard from

1714
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: for a while. This might be the last game they

1715
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: win this year. But this team and the way that

1716
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 1: they're built, this nucleus Demiko Ryans, the future is incredibly

1717
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 1: bright for the Houston Texans. I think they rose and

1718
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins fell today. Those were the two biggest stories

1719
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: to me. It's like the Dolphins had the hype coming

1720
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 1: into the season, a lot of people love in Miami

1721
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: going into the season. But it's the Houston Texans that

1722
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: everybody thought was going to be an absolute joke because

1723
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: well they have been for years that we're now talking

1724
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: about that is still playing football. That to me, is

1725
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway. Is just one opinion going into the

1726
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: year and one coming out, both of them just being

1727
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: diametrically the opposite what I think a lot of people thought.

1728
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: Don't disagree on pretty much any of that. My only

1729
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: other real takeaway, by the way, Joe Flacco great story,

1730
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: but you know, I mean he kind of and you

1731
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 2: know the crazy thing was that was not the game

1732
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 2: where it was negative eight degrees or whatever. I mean

1733
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 2: that that was climate controlled whatever you would have hoped

1734
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 2: that he would have. You know, he would have been

1735
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: better there. But listen, I mean, you know, you go

1736
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 2: back really if you include the final two regular season

1737
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 2: games that he played, you're talking about, you know, three

1738
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: interceptions in those games, including two ironically against Houston in

1739
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: a win. Two more interceptions today. Great story, but I

1740
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 2: think we kind of saw why he was available, like

1741
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 2: in early November, and the blue might be off that

1742
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 2: rose probably permanent.

1743
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 1: Well, I mean at his age and the last couple

1744
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: stops he had made, it just didn't work out. It's

1745
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 1: a great story, and I'm glad that he had this

1746
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: final act for himself. Like it's a cool way to

1747
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: end your career. Yeah, I know, a couple of interceptions

1748
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: in your final game, but you took a team to

1749
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: the playoffs, had no business making it considering what they lost.

1750
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: And I don't mean Watson as much as I mean

1751
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: losing Nick Chubb and just everything that you were dealing with.

1752
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: And you're supposed to be in this incredible division where

1753
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 1: everybody ends up on the cusp of the playoffs. At

1754
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: the end, everything breaks your way, but you end up

1755
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: with Flacco after Thanksgiving and if you're Joe Flacco, like

1756
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 1: he couldn't have even expected himself to play this well,

1757
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: and he comes back and does. I think it's a

1758
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: cool story that you can look back on and you

1759
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: can kind of just put it in a box and say,

1760
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: hey man, that was a really that was fun. I'm

1761
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: glad we got to experience that. That was better for sports,

1762
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: having gotten to watch the Browns be interesting down to

1763
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: stretch and we know what they're capable of with the

1764
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: rest of the talent on their roster, it'd be interesting

1765
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: to see what they come back with and at the

1766
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,799
Speaker 1: same time say yeah, we're putting it in a box,

1767
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: and we're going to put that box on the shelf

1768
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: now and it's going to be in the antles of

1769
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: history because I think this is the end of the

1770
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco ride.

1771
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 2: I agree as well. The Houston Texans dominant win over

1772
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns forty five to fourteen final score at

1773
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 2: NRG Stadium, and the Miami Dolphins did not look very

1774
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: good twenty six to seven win for the Kansas City

1775
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs at Arrowhead. Fox Sports Radio aer Toorris Jason Martin

1776
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,920
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1781
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 2: start to look ahead to the four remaining NFL playoff games.

1782
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 2: Two on Sunday, now two on Monday. Discuss them all.

1783
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: Next.

1784
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio er

1785
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 2: Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com

1786
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 2: Student taking you up until two am Eastern time, eleven Pacific,

1787
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 2: when Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show will follow us.

1788
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto officially thirty six minutes from now you will

1789
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: hear from Bernie. With that said, we got a lot

1790
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 2: to pack into this final thirty six minutes for remaining

1791
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: NFL playoff games. Tell you what, Lorena, give us a

1792
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 2: little music. Patrick, Let's go ahead and start preving these games.

1793
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 2: And I think I know where we're gonna start. First

1794
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 2: game tomorrow.

1795
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 7: Is the first game tomorrow is the Green Bay Packers

1796
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 7: taking on the Dallas Cowboys. Now, Aaron, Aaron, Jason, we

1797
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 7: have the Dallas Cowboys home taking on Green Bay, and

1798
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 7: with that being said, the home team rains supreme. Dallas

1799
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 7: is an overwhelming favorite. Seven points is the total on

1800
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 7: this one. Let's start us off, Aaron, how are you

1801
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 7: feeling with Dallas with seven points?

1802
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 2: Two things one? In the last segment, I kind of

1803
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: said it, and I truly believe it is you criticized

1804
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy for a lot of things. They have lost

1805
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 2: close games too bad teams, but they don't generally get embarrassed.

1806
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be embarrassed, and I just think

1807
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: when you look at green Bay, listen, great story, great season.

1808
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Love for the most part, exceeded my expectations, but

1809
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 2: kind of feels like one of those just happy to

1810
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 2: be there young teams. Dallas. Of course, we know what's

1811
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 2: at stake, and we know they're obviously really good at home,

1812
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 2: So to me, this isn't really that complicated. Do I

1813
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 2: think it could be closer than the points spread indicates.

1814
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 2: Maybe I wouldn't bet it, but I do think Dallas wins.

1815
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: Completely agree on Jordan Love. I think now, like I said,

1816
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: we se going into the season, we were gonna give

1817
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: him a chance to show us what he had and

1818
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: he did and looks like the Packers got himself as

1819
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 1: a guy I've heard him described. I think Robert Mays

1820
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: and Nate Tye called him a dude over the last

1821
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yep, pretty much. He is a dude.

1822
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: He is solid and very good. That offense is good

1823
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: enough and they're young, but they're good enough to win tomorrow.

1824
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Problem is that defense is not. That's gonna be their

1825
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Achilles heal on the road. I do not think that

1826
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense is going to step into Dallas and

1827
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: be much of a problem. I think Ceedee Lamb probably

1828
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 1: is gonna have a big day and it's just gonna

1829
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: put too much pressure on that offense against a big

1830
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: play defense in Dallas. Give me the Cowboys.

1831
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: Very good, Patrick. What's our next game?

1832
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 7: Next one we got on the docket is actually the

1833
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 7: Sunday night football game. It's gonna be the Los Angeles

1834
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 7: Rams taking on the Detroit Lions. Lions are in fact

1835
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 7: the home team since they won the NFC North, and

1836
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 7: yet again, the home team reigns supreme. On the favorites

1837
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 7: right here, not an overwhelming but the Deroit Lions are

1838
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 7: three point favorites. Jason take it away. Are you believer

1839
01:33:58,280 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 7: with the Lions with three points here?

1840
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm a believer. I don't know if that means they're

1841
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna win the game or not. I have been torn

1842
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: on this one just because at first I can't wait

1843
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: to see this, like I not just because of the storylines,

1844
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: the Jared Goff revenge game, the Matthew Stafford revenge game,

1845
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: all of that, but just it should be a great matchup.

1846
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent on both sides. Offense should

1847
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 1: be really fun to watch. I don't know. This feels

1848
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: like it comes down to the game where the team

1849
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 1: that makes the fewest mistakes is gonna win. Somebody's gonna

1850
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: make a mistake late in this game and it's gonna

1851
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: cost their team, and I am I gonna go with

1852
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: my gut here. I would like to see the Lion's

1853
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: been a whole dagon thing. I think that'd be a

1854
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Golf has a lot of pressure on him,

1855
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: more so than Stafford does. Here Goff wants this one.

1856
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 1: Is he gonna grip too hard and make the mistake

1857
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: in the end. My gut tells me the Rams are

1858
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna win. I think the Rams are gonna come on

1859
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: the road and win this game, because there's just so

1860
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: much going into this and Stafford going back into that

1861
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 1: building that he he knows that building pretty dagon well himself.

1862
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I just think the Rams are gonna win the game.

1863
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: I do. I won't be upset either way. I like

1864
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: both teams, but I think the Rams are actually gonna

1865
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: win it out right.

1866
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 2: So I know the Rams are playing really good football.

1867
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 2: But I was thinking about this this week. What is

1868
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 2: their best win during the stretch. Here here is the

1869
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:25,560
Speaker 2: schedule that they played to improve, uh, to improve to

1870
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 2: make the run that they did to get into the playoffs.

1871
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Finish ten and seven overall. Beat the Seahawks one at Arizona,

1872
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 2: beat the Browns now immediately it was the Browns with

1873
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco, but still the Browns. Nonetheless, they lose at

1874
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore thirty seven to thirty one, so that was obviously

1875
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: a close, competitive game against the number one seed in

1876
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 2: the AFC. Then they closed the season with they win

1877
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 2: against the Commanders, they win against the Saints, the win

1878
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: against the Giants, and they went against the San Francisco

1879
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 2: forty nine ers when they were resting their starters. So

1880
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 2: I'll say that again. Seahawks, Cardinals, Browns, Commanders, Saints, Giants,

1881
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 2: forty nine ers without their starters, I just don't like.

1882
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 2: I think they're playing really good football. I think Sean

1883
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 2: McVay has gotten the most out of this team. I'm

1884
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:09,520
Speaker 2: just not sold that like the competition has been that incredible.

1885
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 2: And the one thing I will say about Detroit as well,

1886
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 2: obviously as you just said Jason, and really the points

1887
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 2: spread reflects it is a lot of people obviously think

1888
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:22,759
Speaker 2: the Rams can go in and win. It does feel

1889
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 2: like Dan Campbell, for whatever criticisms that people have of him,

1890
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 2: when people really don't think that they're gonna show up

1891
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 2: ready to play or start to doubt them, that's generally

1892
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 2: when they play their best football. I mean, even go

1893
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 2: back to the game in Dallas a few weeks ago

1894
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 2: that we were on air for that. You know, frankly,

1895
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 2: a victory was kind of stolen from them going into

1896
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 2: that game. Dallas had lost two in a row and

1897
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 2: Dallas was returning home and he kind of just sit

1898
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 2: there and say, Okay, Dallas is gonna bounce back get

1899
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 2: a nice win. Detroit should have won that game last

1900
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 2: year Week eighteen beat green Bay to keep Green Bay

1901
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 2: out of the playoffs. So I think we get a

1902
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 2: good performance from from there are certainly obviously everybody has

1903
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 2: plenty to play for, but there's certainly a lot of

1904
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 2: frustration about the way that the seeding went late in

1905
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 2: the way things could have been. So I think we

1906
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 2: get the best effort from the Lions. So I will

1907
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 2: take the Lions to win against the Rams. Tell you what,

1908
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: Jason will come back. We'll preview the two Monday games

1909
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 2: because it's the Stagers. But to tell you, we do

1910
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 2: have a second Monday game, So let's toss it over

1911
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 2: the news desk to saga. The floor is yours.

1912
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 6: I would add about the Rams here. They at the

1913
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 6: bye week in November, they were three and six. They've

1914
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 6: only lost one game since, a seven to one finish

1915
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 6: to the season. What was the one loss and why

1916
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 6: did they lose? It was the overtime at Baltimore and

1917
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 6: they lost on a punt return in ot The kicking

1918
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 6: game has been horrendous for the Rams this year, especially

1919
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 6: by the standard of a playoff team. They've missed more

1920
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 6: kicks than any other team in the league. Just on

1921
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 6: field goals, they've missed eleven of those, plus the extra

1922
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 6: point misses, rams from fifty yards and beyond on field

1923
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 6: goal attempts just five for ten, second worst in punting

1924
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 6: net average this year. That is something that really really

1925
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 6: raises an eyebrow if you get to a playoff game,

1926
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 6: which tends to be a close game, and it's a

1927
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 6: road game and it's gonna be allowed game. As for

1928
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 6: the Eagles, I'm glad you brought up in the previous

1929
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:20,799
Speaker 6: segment how horrendous that defense has been. Philadelphia has allowed

1930
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 6: thirty five touchdown passes this year, second worst in the league.

1931
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 6: The Eagles d only has nine interceptions the whole year,

1932
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 6: and allowing an average of over two hundred and fifty

1933
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 6: yards passing a game. Philadelphia has given up twenty five

1934
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 6: points again that per game, that's third.

1935
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 2: Worst in the league.

1936
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 6: The only good thing with this matchup is they're facing

1937
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 6: the Bucks, who only get a home game because of

1938
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 6: that division. The Bucks are the worst rushing team in

1939
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 6: the league. Interesting matchup, but not in good ways. Philadelphia

1940
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 6: wide receiver AJ Brown with his knee injury, is out

1941
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 6: for Monday night at Tampa Bay, and we mentioned earlier

1942
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 6: the weather. It's gonna be nothing like the cold we're

1943
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 6: seeing this weekend in Kansas City or Buffalo. Yes, seventy

1944
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 6: degrees in Tampa that day, but a chance of rain

1945
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 6: there Monday day and night. Yeah, Tomorrow's Pittsburgh at Buffalo

1946
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 6: game was postponed Monday due to the snowstorm in the city,

1947
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 6: and there's a travel ban in that county tonight, So

1948
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 6: it'll start at four to thirty pm Eastern Time on Monday.

1949
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 6: Forecast for Buffalo twenty degrees, snow before the game, mostly

1950
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 6: but definitely windy. If Buffalo wins, it'll be Kansas City

1951
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 6: at Buffalo the next weekend and be about twenty degrees

1952
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 6: and windy all over again. The Chiefs had a kickoff

1953
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 6: temperature of minus four degrees tonight. Kansas City eliminated Miami

1954
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 6: twenty six to seven. Harrison Butker four for four on

1955
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 6: field goals, all from inside thirty three yards. Rashi Rice

1956
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 6: eight catches one hundred and thirty yards and a score.

1957
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 6: Isaiah Picheco twenty four carries eighty nine yards rushing and

1958
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 6: a touchdown. By the way. At one point, the wind

1959
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 6: shill was at minus twenty seven. Miami, the team that

1960
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 6: tied for the league lead most touchdowns sixty one this year.

1961
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,759
Speaker 6: They had one touchdown tonight, the long pass to Tyreek

1962
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 6: Hill side from that fifty three yard TV Hill had

1963
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 6: four catches for nine yards. So a Miami team that

1964
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 6: started the season five and one beating five non playoff

1965
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 6: teams goes six and six the rest of the way.

1966
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 6: Houston Texans started wild Card weekend with the home win,

1967
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 6: eliminating Cleveland forty five fourteen, as Joe Flacco threw pick

1968
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 6: sixes on back to back drives in the third quarter.

1969
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 6: He was sacked four times today it was just the

1970
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:26,679
Speaker 6: seventeen to fourteen league. Late first half, Needless to say,

1971
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 6: the Texans pulled away and c J. Stroud had three

1972
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 6: touchdown passes rookie playoff record. The Browns had won four straight,

1973
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 6: including at Houston, until a loss last week. But that

1974
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 6: win at Houston right before Christmas, well, CJ. Stroud wasn't

1975
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 6: playing due to the concussion. As for college hoops upsets

1976
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,799
Speaker 6: in the top ten, TCU edged number two ranked Houston

1977
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 6: by a point, Texas A and M in overtime beat

1978
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 6: number six Kentucky and Arizona. Number eight ranked lost seventy

1979
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 6: three to seventy at Washington State. The late NHL game

1980
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 6: went to Calgary, winning three to one at Vegas. In

1981
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 6: the NBA, the late game went to Utah, winners of

1982
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 6: five straight, beat the Lakers one thirty two one twenty five.

1983
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 6: Lebron James was out with an ankle injury. At San Antonio,

1984
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 6: Victor wembin Yama was out for Rest. Chicago beat the

1985
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 6: Spurs San Antonio's record seven and thirty one. Steph Curry

1986
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,839
Speaker 6: was out for Rest. Milwaukee beat Golden State Warriors record

1987
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 6: eighteen and twenty one. Jalen Brunson was out for New

1988
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 6: York with a Bruce cap but the Knicks one at Memphis,

1989
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 6: Memphis missing many injured players, including Desmond bain Now. Jaron

1990
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 6: Jackson was out tonight. Marcus Smart out at least six

1991
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 6: weeks with a finger injury. New Orleans won by ten

1992
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 6: at Dallas. Luka Donsich was out again for the MAVs

1993
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 6: with a sprained ankle. Brandon Ingram was out for New Orleans.

1994
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 6: Sore Achilles, and Boston is now nineteen and zero at

1995
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,879
Speaker 6: home after beating Houston won forty five to one thirteen.

1996
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 6: So we have two NFL playoff games Sunday two on

1997
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:53,759
Speaker 6: the holiday Monday.

1998
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sanger, Fox

1999
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er Tours. Jason Martin broadcasting

2000
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 2: from the Tireck dot Com Studios. Let's get back to it, Loret,

2001
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate the music, Pat, What is the next game

2002
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna preview?

2003
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 1: All right?

2004
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 7: Next one is Sunday at one thirty Pacific time. We

2005
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 7: have the Pittsburgh Monday. Oh Monday, My bad Monday was

2006
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 7: thinking behind Monday. We got the Pittsburg Steelers taking on

2007
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 7: the Buffalo Bills in what was supposed to be for tomorrow.

2008
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 7: And stop me if you've heard this before, guys, the

2009
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 7: home team reigns supreme. And if you thought the seven

2010
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 7: point favorites with one of the other games earlier was

2011
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 7: a lot, this one is even bigger. The Buffalo Bills

2012
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 7: are ten point favorite at home. Aaron, what do you think?

2013
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 2: Do you like that? Mods? Real quick? Jason, do you

2014
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: have any like I saw a lot of pushback about

2015
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 2: the four to thirty start time. I don't really know

2016
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 2: what else you can do because obviously tonight proved that

2017
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 2: you know, they're willing to play in bad weather, But

2018
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 2: I mean when it's literally a travel advisory, as the

2019
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 2: SEGER has told us, like, you can't play that game tomorrow.

2020
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: Is it safe for people to go to the game? Travel?

2021
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 2: It's not about sitting in the stands and cold and

2022
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 2: windshield it's about driving, you know, under feet of snow.

2023
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 2: But I saw a lot of pushback, like I don't

2024
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 2: really know what the NFL is supposed to do.

2025
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: Well, you mean pushback that they actually moved the game. Yeah,

2026
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean I'm with you. I'm a

2027
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: little baffled by that. Is it safe for people to

2028
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 1: be driving to try and make it to a playoff game?

2029
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It was super cold in Kansas City, but

2030
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a different animal. Some thought

2031
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 1: they should have tried to move that game. I saw

2032
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: some fans wishing they would have tried. But this one's worse.

2033
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: This one, I mean, this one's far worse. When they

2034
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: showed the shots, they couldn't have played this game, and

2035
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: if they had played it, we couldn't have seen it.

2036
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 1: Like everything, Yeah, this one had to be moved. I

2037
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: don't know what people are saying. People people are wrong

2038
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: in this case.

2039
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 2: I know you're not on social media as much, but

2040
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: surprise surprise. People were getting angry over nothing, by the way,

2041
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 2: really quickly. Buffalo's winning this game, and I'm still not

2042
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 2: sold that. I totally believe that they have made the

2043
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 2: complete three sixty transformation and are going to you know,

2044
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 2: blitz through these playoffs the way they did to end

2045
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: the regular season. But I think they win this game

2046
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 2: pretty convincingly.

2047
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be convincing or not,

2048
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be seventeen degrees and we don't know

2049
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: very true what the conditions are going to look like.

2050
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 1: So it could be a slog, it could be a

2051
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: slot fest, it could be a lot of turnovers, and

2052
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 1: both teams have a tendency to do weird things, So

2053
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,799
Speaker 1: I think this one's probably going to be sneaky close,

2054
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 1: and probably a lot closer than Bills fans are going

2055
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: to want it to be. But I'm I'm kind of

2056
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: rotting with the Bills right now. I think the Bills

2057
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: will win, too, I just don't know it's going to

2058
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 1: be that convincing. I don't think either team and the

2059
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: elements that they're going to be playing in is just

2060
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 1: going to run away from the other.

2061
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 2: One totally fair, uh, maybe the four thirty Eastern start

2062
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 2: will help a little bit as far as cold, and

2063
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 2: maybe we'll get a little sunshine, although I'm looking at

2064
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 2: the forecast and it's supposed to still be snowing at

2065
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 2: about four thirty Eastern time on Monday. Pat final game,

2066
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: go ahead, the floor's here's my friend, all.

2067
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 7: Right, last one of Monday, we have the Philadelphia Eagles

2068
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 7: taking on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa Bay is home

2069
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 7: and here's a surprise, guys, the home team does not

2070
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 7: mean the favorite in this last and final one. The

2071
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles on the road are actually the favorites here.

2072
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 7: The favorite total, though, is three points. They are only

2073
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 7: three point favorites on this one. Jason, take it away, man,

2074
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 7: what do you feel?

2075
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: This one's tough because you don't have Aj Brown with

2076
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and last I checked, Baker Mayfield is questionable

2077
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 1: with two separate injuries sustained in that atrocious performance where

2078
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: they somehow still won the game last week scoring six points.

2079
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: I think, I mean the Eagles. I think the Eagles

2080
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 1: are still going to win this game. I do. I

2081
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna being kind of a blowout. The

2082
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,560
Speaker 1: Eagles are just not firing on all cylinders. But I

2083
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna come to an end here, especially

2084
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 1: if Baker's banged up. If you can't go, it's not

2085
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: going to be a very fun watch, I don't think.

2086
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: But uh, Tampa Bay's defense will will show up. I

2087
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 1: just think there's gonna be a little bit too much

2088
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: from the Eagles. So I think Philadelphia will advance here.

2089
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 2: I actually disagree. I mean, I know Baker's banged up.

2090
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 2: I think as long as Baker plays, I think they win.

2091
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 2: I just don't think. I think there's just something not

2092
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 2: right with Philly, and I don't know if it's a

2093
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,440
Speaker 2: locker room. I don't know, if they don't believe in Sirianni. Obviously,

2094
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 2: some of his coaching decisions have backfired, including letting Matt

2095
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 2: Patricia call the defense. I just look at this team.

2096
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't I don't see it. I think sometimes, you know, Matt.

2097
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: Patricia is is a good reason to pick against.

2098
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 2: The Yeah, So I don't know, man, you know, it's

2099
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 2: it's one of those like like, I think last week

2100
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 2: was the week, right, I mean, by the way, they

2101
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 2: had lost to Arizona the week before, and so you

2102
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 2: sit there and say, Okay, come on now, like the

2103
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 2: division is sort of kind of at stake here, you

2104
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 2: could potentially, you know, if things break your way, if

2105
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 2: Dallas loses whatever, and they got punked by the New

2106
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 2: York Football Giants. So I think the season's over, and

2107
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 2: then I think the conversations about Sirianni begin. I have

2108
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 2: no idea whether Philadelphia really would move off of them,

2109
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 2: but I don't think they win this game, especially on

2110
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 2: the road to Seger mentioned earlier the weather might not

2111
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 2: be great, which I guess in theory probably would favor

2112
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 2: the Eagles. But I'm gonna take Tampa Bay to win

2113
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: this game. Tell you what, Jason, we'll come back. We

2114
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 2: will wrap the show. That's next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

2115
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 2: back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aaron Torres, Jason Martin broadcasting

2116
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot Com studios thirteen minutes from now.

2117
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 2: Bernie Fredo of The Bernie Fredo Show. He will follow

2118
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 2: us A lot to talk about, for sure. Sharon just

2119
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Speaker 2: tweeted in call it of my local sports talk radio

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Speaker 2: station was ticked off, said it it wasn't fair to

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Speaker 2: change the game day because people had made bets on

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Speaker 2: the game I'll take a human life over the game.

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Speaker 2: I think most sports books the bets still stand if

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Speaker 2: if the game is played on the same weekend, so

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Speaker 2: like if the game gets moved from Sunday to Monday,

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Speaker 2: that most of them are still the same. But we

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Speaker 2: will see what happens there real quick, Jays. We haven't

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Speaker 2: you know, in the grand scheme of things, it's not

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Speaker 2: that important, but you know, since it kind of broke

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Speaker 2: during the show, we'll figure out. Just touch on it

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Speaker 2: real quick. What do you think of? By the way,

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Speaker 2: make sure to down everybody download the podcast. We talked everything.

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Speaker 2: We talked KC, we talked Cleveland, Houston, we talked some

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Speaker 2: of the college stuff, Saban retiring to bo Er, Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: We obviously previewed the four games over the next two days.

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Speaker 2: One thing that did break during our show, Ryan Grubbed,

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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator of Washington, the Washington Huskies, who are

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Speaker 2: obviously the national runner up, basically tweeted out a thank

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Speaker 2: you to Washington fans, insinuating that he will not be

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Speaker 2: the next head coach. It's hard to say because we

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Speaker 2: don't know who Washington has in line. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that I like the idea. I just think and listen.

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Speaker 2: I know Washington is a great job in a you know,

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Speaker 2: a power to conference. You know, we're basically you want

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Speaker 2: to be in the Big ten or the SEC going forward.

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Speaker 2: And they're there and they're good, and they've had many

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Speaker 2: different eras of success. I know you can probably bring

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Speaker 2: in a sitting head coach from somewhere else. I just

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Speaker 2: feel like, you keep this thing going, keep that locker

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Speaker 2: room together. I don't love the idea of going out

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Speaker 2: of house without knowing who it is. But let's assume

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Speaker 2: it's not a super big name that everyone is universally

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Speaker 2: gonna agree is the greatest thing on earth. I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the idea. I really don't of moving

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Speaker 2: off Ryan Grum.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't either, because I think that if it

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Speaker 1: didn't work out with Ryan Grubb, I don't think Washington

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Speaker 1: fans would be that disappointed. So I think that they

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Speaker 1: believe he had earned the opportunity and they would have

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Speaker 1: been really excited if you've given him the gig. And

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Speaker 1: he says in his statement it would have been a

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Speaker 1: dream to stay here and fight. I showed up every

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Speaker 1: day early though I wanted to be I will not

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Speaker 1: be the next head coach at the University of Washington.

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Speaker 1: So if it's going to be Lance Lighthold, if it's

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Speaker 1: going to be Jed Fish, which is the other name

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Speaker 1: that's out there that you've seen mentioned, I did see

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Speaker 1: a comment. I was kind of looking to see what

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Speaker 1: Washington fans had to say in reaction to a few

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Speaker 1: of these articles, and some have said that. I guess

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Speaker 1: local radio in Washington has been saying that the university

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Speaker 1: did not want a first time head coach. And we'll

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Speaker 1: see the only thing if you get it wrong and

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Speaker 1: you let Grub go, and Grub let's say Grub does

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Speaker 1: go to Alabama's ThEC and the offense is just awesome

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Speaker 1: over the next few years, which it certainly could be

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Speaker 1: with both him and de Boer there and Washington struggles,

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Speaker 1: then that's going to really upset Washington alumni. You're going

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Speaker 1: into the Big ten, and I guess that's why you

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Speaker 1: don't want a first time head coach. But again, this

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Speaker 1: is a guy that I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: credit for some of the success that they've seen, and

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Speaker 1: they wanted this and not going with their person and

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Speaker 1: going out, you better make sure you get the right guy.

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Speaker 1: And look, if it's Jeffish or if it's light Bold,

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Speaker 1: I can see it, I can. But Grub making this

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Speaker 1: statement the way that he does, it's almost like he

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Speaker 1: is telling Washington fans, yeah, be angry about this, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not happy about this. I thought I would get

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Speaker 1: a real shot at this job, and it doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like it.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with that one hundred percent. Is I

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Speaker 2: don't know the guy. I don't know what he's insinuating,

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Speaker 2: but it does feel like he's trying to get ahead

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Speaker 2: of the story of like, hey, look you know, because

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he could just go to Alabama

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Speaker 2: and just let it be whatever, or he could have

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Speaker 2: released this statement yesterday an hour after Kaitlino took the

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Speaker 2: UH took the Alabama job. But because he didn't, because

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Speaker 2: he waited what twenty four hours plus after Dubor, I

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Speaker 2: think is I keep saying de Boer, I think it's Debor.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, we're working on it. Okay, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he only played for a national championship, I mean whatever.

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Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is, like, if

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Speaker 2: he releases this an hour after Dubor gets the Alabama job,

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Speaker 2: then he sit there and say, Okay, they're just going together.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he waited twenty four hours makes it

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Speaker 2: pretty clear that not only was he at least considered

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Speaker 2: a candidate, but that he probably wanted the job, which

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Speaker 2: obviously makes sense. Right. And what I would say is

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Speaker 2: I get the idea of not bringing in a first

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Speaker 2: time head coach. I also think this is a little

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Speaker 2: bit different. The other thing, too, Jason, is if you

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Speaker 2: bring him in and if it doesn't work out, you're

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Speaker 2: going to be able to get him on a contract

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Speaker 2: that you can move off of pretty quick. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to. This is an extreme example, but but you know,

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Speaker 2: Mike Leach obviously a year ago passed away, they promoted

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Speaker 2: from within, and then they fired the guy after one year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you should do that, but I just

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Speaker 2: bring it up because you could get off of it

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Speaker 2: pretty quick. This this You know what this feels like

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Speaker 2: to me, honestly, is you have a new ad. The

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Speaker 2: ad left for USC, the ad that hired Debor. And

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Speaker 2: this feels like the ad wanting to try and flex

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Speaker 2: some sort of muscle of Hey, I can go get

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Speaker 2: a sitting head coach from this school or that school

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Speaker 2: or whatever. Now I will say, you know, obviously we'll

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Speaker 2: see who the head coach is. Maybe it ends up

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Speaker 2: being better than somebody that we think it is. I

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Speaker 2: just I don't think this was the right move. I

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Speaker 2: really don't ohn either.

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Speaker 1: I would I would have gone with Groub and him

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Speaker 1: saying in this statement, I wanted to be the coach.

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Speaker 1: So he's telling again, he is telling everybody. He's telling

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Speaker 1: that Washington fan base, Hey, you could have had me

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Speaker 1: because I wanted you, but you weren't the ones that

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Speaker 1: got to choose. It's the athletic department, it's the ad

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Speaker 1: point your fingers at them if this doesn't work out now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's sour grapes, but I do

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Speaker 1: think that there is there's an implied thing here that

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Speaker 1: he wanted to make sure that the Washington fan base

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Speaker 1: knew that he wanted them. I don't think he wanted

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Speaker 1: to look like he was leaving them high and dry.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more that than finger pointing or trying

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Speaker 1: to cause trouble for Washington. I just don't think he

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Speaker 1: wanted it misconstrued that he was just going to run

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Speaker 1: out as soon as Debor left and I can understand that.

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Speaker 1: Like I think from a I think he just wants

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Speaker 1: the perception to be accurate. And now we see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Is he going to end up at Alabama or is

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Speaker 1: there another job that comes available that maybe if somebody

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Speaker 1: gets somebody hires Fish or somebody hires light Bulb, does

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Speaker 1: he go become the head coach for them? And then

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Speaker 1: you just have the flip.

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Speaker 2: Well, somebody just just mentioned this to me. He's from Iowa.

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Speaker 2: There's a mini Matt Campbell buss going on, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: could he take over for Matt Campbell by the way,

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Speaker 2: you know Matt Campbell in the Big ten or Ryan

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Speaker 2: Grubb in the Big twelve. It's an interesting conversation. But

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jason, we got to get out

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Speaker 2: of here. I want to thank the crew, Loraina on

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Speaker 2: the board, producer pat Steve Desager for my partner Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: I am Aaron Torres. Make sure to stay tuned. Bernie

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