1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda land Audio 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: in partnership with I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, welcome back 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: to Katie's Crib. You guys here we are. We did it. 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: This is the season three finale of Katie's Crib. Thank 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening. My Katie's Crib community 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: has been such a source of inspiration and support during 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: this incredibly challenging epic up and down learning and unlearning 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: wild Year and what we have here for the season 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: three finale is actually a two part or it's two 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: episodes for the price of one. That's right, folks, It 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: is a two for with the one and only Shay Mitchell. 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: I am so excited. Part one. Why we had to 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: do it two for I'll explain is that the first 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: episode Shay and I actually recorded on March twelve, that is, 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: the day before shutdown. Shane and I met in person. 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: This was the last in person interview I did for 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Katie's Crib. We bumped elbows because we didn't know if 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: it was safe to hug, even though we really wanted to. 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: There was hand sanitizer all over the table's toilet paper 20 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: had been thought from all the grocery stores, and we 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: didn't know what was on the horizon. So I'm very 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: excited for you to listen to the version of Shay 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Mitchell with her five month old and me with pregnancy 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: that I didn't know about yet. For episode two of 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: the finale, Shay and I just met a few days 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: ago because I reached out and I was like, Shay, 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna want to know how you are now, me 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: me especially. And so the second episode of the season 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: finale is February one, Shay Mitchell in February, Katie lows 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: I have a newborn. Shay has a one year five 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: month old. We are in pandemic times, and yet we 32 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: understand it more. It has been a year and change 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: that no one ever ever ever saw coming. So here 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: you have it, episode one of the season finale of 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Katie's christ And then once you've listened to this episode, 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: head over to part two. I am very excited to 37 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: introduce today's guest. She is an actress, she's an entrepreneur. 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: She is a queen of travel. She is a new 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: member of a of the Mom Club with a five 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: month old. We know her as Emily Fields and pretty 41 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: little Liars, Peach in You on Netflix, and most recently 42 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Stellic Hole in doll Face on Hulu. Yes. Yes, and 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I've known you for like a hundred 44 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: years through Troy and Bellasario. Everybody, welcome the one. The 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: only shame it Jael, Hello, Hi, thank you so much 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: for coming on. I feel like I just can't believe. 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't think we've met before. We haven't, but I 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: really think I've met you because I've seen you on 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: TV obviously in the same with you, right it No, 50 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: but I feel like I know you. It's I'm very 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: um thrilled that you're here and also that now we 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: are going to be friends. Um, get ready for friendship, 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: as I like to say, UM, let's dive in. We 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: we guys, we've we've already been talking for like a while, 55 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: returned on these mics, so we're already like into a topic. Um, 56 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: we were talking about your beautiful daughter Atlas. I love 57 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: that name. Thank you. Oh my god, how did you 58 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: come up with it? I actually didn't. It was our 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: good friends who were coming up with a name for 60 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: their daughter, like probably about two years ago, and they 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: were going through the list and all of a sudden 62 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: they hit at lists and I looked at Matt and 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm like he's like, whoa. I'm like, they can't they 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: can't you they can't use that one. And so we're 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: like telling her, We're like, uh, we don't really like 66 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: it exactly, you know, I thought so too um. And 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, we called her 68 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Atlas and then she's like, he was Atlas going to 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: be the name whatever? Boy girl? They no, we have 70 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: a boy named still, we always had a boy name. 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: I thought I was having a boy just instinctively. I 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: was like, I think I'm having a boy, and you 73 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: didn't find out. We did find out, yes, yes, so 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: we thought it was boy and until we did the 75 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: gender revealed. Then when it was a girl, were like, 76 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: we have no name. This is like completely you know, 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: changing everything we had ever thought about. So Atlas came about. 78 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: And then her middle name, Noah, actually got from Twitter. 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: So I did. Yes. Some fan was like, what do 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: you guys think Shane mass baby's name is going to be? 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: And there was like a list and then they had 82 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: Noah and it was an o A. I'm like that's sick. 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: I called him. I'm like Atlas Noah, and your last 84 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: name was great now Atlas. Um, you guys follow shape Mitchell. Uh, 85 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: your beautiful daughter we were talking about. She presents his 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: white Yes, she is very fair, scary blue eye, she 87 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: has light hair, and you and your husband do not. 88 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: You guys are But I'm like me and my boyfriend. 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: Everybody never knows that I love it because I just 90 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, people like so husband, I'm like, no, my boyfriend, boyfriend. Um, 91 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: there's no ring on it, so you know. But um, yes, 92 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: Matt and I definitely look like we are mixed because 93 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: we are. We each have a parent who's fully Caucasian, 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: and then he's his dad's from trinidadad my mom's from 95 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: the Philippines. She resembles neither of them and just really 96 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: resembles my dad and his mom. So yeah, does she 97 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: have stuff from both your dad and his mom, just 98 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: the blue eyes and the fairer skin. Yeah. And he 99 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: was like wait what he looked at me. I was like, 100 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I swear, you know, we wear it, so yeah, I'm 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: like I don't know, um, but right away I saw 102 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: her eyes and I was like, yeah, I'm pretty sure 103 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't born with these kind of eyes, and everybody 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but they changed, don't that's true, you know, 105 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: And everybody did say that, but I was I knew. 106 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: I was like, no, she's really does have these crazy 107 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: light eyes. Now you're super famous, so people probably already know. 108 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: But I feel like I talk about this with other 109 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: moms I know whose kids don't look anything like them 110 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 1: and they're on the playground and people think they're the nanny. 111 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, like you know, people like that's not 112 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: your kid. Definitely, especially when Matt's like with her walking around, 113 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: people are like, oh, cute kid, but like not his. 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: You know, they just don't put two in two. It's 115 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: like he's holding a friend's kid and the same with me. 116 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: So it's interesting, Um, did you always know you wanted 117 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: to be a mom? Yes? I always knew that I 118 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: wanted to be a mom, but it wasn't something I 119 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: had any sort of timeline for or like you know, 120 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't one of those girls. I never 121 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: planned a wedding. I personally don't want to get married. 122 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: I never had this whole expectation of like how things 123 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: were going to go. I just thought I'd like that, 124 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: so if it happens awesome. So baby was definitely in 125 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: the cards for you. But marriage You're like, no, it's 126 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: just you don't feel it. I just don't feel And 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: I love weddings. I you have a wedding, I'd love 128 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: to go. I'll buy it. If I love weddings, I 129 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: love it. But for me, I just feel like, I mean, hey, 130 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: this is the biggest commitment we could ever have. I 131 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: don't take a ring, like, hey man, I'll take a ring, 132 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: but the whole party and all of that, I just 133 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I love the fact that I'm like, 134 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: come and go and you can do that regardless, but 135 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: for me and no, it it's different. I feel like 136 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: my first fight with a him when we were married, 137 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, this is something I can't 138 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: get out of as easily as before. Like I definitely 139 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: remember that being like, holy sh it, like a thing 140 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: that it's not. I mean, look, is it not because 141 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: of that? I just like, I don't know. I just 142 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: don't feel it for myself. But I love that. And 143 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: also Matty, he's your life partner in that might change, 144 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: like we might be seeing your wedding at well exactly 145 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: and we I like to call it a commitment party. 146 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: So eventually I want to have a commitment party. That's 147 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: what people say, is you know, kind of similar to 148 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: a wedding. But I want to make a commitment as 149 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: a family, and not just to Matt and I. I mean, 150 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: we'll be cool forever because we're her parents, but I 151 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: want to a commitment that we're going to be the 152 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: best parents for her and we're going to be like 153 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: fam jam you know, first and foremost, Um, was that 154 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: was planned? No, she wasn't planned. Um, yeah, she wasn't planned. 155 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: And I just kind of had a feeling when I 156 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: was pregnant, and because this was the second time, I 157 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: may not have been as excited about it. I was 158 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: a little scared the second time. So I basically, you know, 159 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: telling him was just kind of like, oh, yeah, so 160 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I just took a test and I'm pregnant. Like it 161 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: was very like you know, Um, but it wasn't it 162 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: wasn't planned, was it not? Was she was here? Yeah? 163 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: She was here? Um. So you have this amazing, huge 164 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: following on social media outside of all of your amazing 165 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: roles on TV and film. Um, like you keep certain 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated how you keep some of your life private though, 167 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: how like your relationship, Like how do you decide what 168 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: does or doesn't or like how do you know what 169 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: to do? Because I haven't posted a picture of my kid, 170 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: not because I judge. I just like and I'm I'm 171 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: a Libra. I'm really bad at making decisions, and so 172 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: when I can't make a decision, I just don't do 173 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: anything because I'm overwhelmed with fear. I mean, you're my 174 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Matt's a Libra. Yeah, so we're like I get you, 175 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: get me. I was really excited when I found out 176 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: she was gonna be a Libra. I was like, we're 177 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: on the cusp of virgo libra. Either or I would 178 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: not mind. But I was like, if she's a Libra, 179 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: she's like Matt super chill. I don't know. Two areas 180 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: in the house could be really crazy. What's an aries, 181 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: what's the what's what's the I mean people say we're 182 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: a little hardheaded, um, a little stubborn. Um are you 183 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: super independent? Yeah? I am, But I'm also like being 184 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: with a Libra, like you need an area's in your life. 185 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: You need me to like kind of you know, set 186 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: the tone a little bit. Sure. So um, so, like 187 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: how did you decide to share the process of being 188 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: pregnant YouTube, like how did you do it? You know, 189 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: we kind of thought about it and at the beginning 190 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: we were like, Okay, I want to feel this process 191 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: just because like it's gonna be shot professionally, and like 192 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: that would be funny to look back and for her 193 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: to look back. And there wasn't really anything I was 194 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: too scared to show because I still at the end 195 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: of the day would have some control, right, But even then, 196 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean in the editing room, we left everything in there. 197 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: So I wanted people to kind of see this whole 198 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: journey because you know, maybe one person out there could 199 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: relate to some sort of thing or find something funny 200 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. Um. So that's why we decided to do 201 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: the show. But when it came time to thinking if 202 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: we were going to put Alice's face out there or 203 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: what we're we going to do at the end of 204 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: the day, I just had to think. Unfortunately, if you 205 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: were to google anybody's kid, even if you don't, you 206 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: can sometimes see it. Of course, for me, I was 207 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: just like I don't ever want somebody to fight or 208 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: like really trying a creepy way to get a photo 209 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: like let me be in control of everything first, so 210 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: that I put it out and people know when you 211 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: see it. Now, how much I'll put her out, I 212 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm kind of just going with the flow 213 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: with this entire thing. So for right now, I mean, 214 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: is she going to look the same way right now? 215 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: Listen later? No, And I don't know when she's a 216 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: little bit older, am I going to continue to post her? 217 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I won't. For right now, I'm like I am. 218 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: It feels good to you until it does to me, 219 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: until until it doesn't. Thank you, we were talking about 220 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: before we started again recording. Sorry guys, and now, um, 221 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: there's been nothing thus far knock on Wood that has 222 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: really sent you spiraling, which I also think it's very 223 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: inspiring for our listens to hear, because look, Katie's crib 224 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: is a safe space and a lot of moms come 225 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: on and are having a rough time, and like, this 226 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: is very inspiring for us all to hear that you 227 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: you're just rocking and moment well, And let me also 228 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: preface that with I have help first and formant, you 229 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I had somebody help us 230 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: with nights for the first month, so that we were 231 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: able to sleep, and I had that feel weird to 232 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: you at all and loved it at the same time 233 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: because I was still watching the monitors and I love 234 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: everybody that took care of her. But it was really difficult. 235 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: So that was hard. There were definitely a few nights 236 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: there where I'm just like, oh my gosh, I just 237 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: go in and get her, like I should be doing this. 238 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: I should be doing this. Um And I'm not saying 239 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: like it's been sweet, it's but this is kind of no. 240 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: But there hasn't been any sort of like you didn't 241 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: struggle with postpartum depression. No, I struggled with pre So 242 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: that was something that was difficult, and I actually thought 243 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: I was going to have a hard time with post 244 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: just because I don't know, I had an inkling. But 245 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: with her and because of the help that we were 246 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: really are really fortunate to have, it's made it a 247 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: lot easier. So, I mean that is like you said, 248 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: it's right now, she's going to get into tea lenge, 249 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: She's gonna get in a lot of other things. We 250 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: haven't slept trained or let Yeah, there's all these things. 251 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: We're really intuitively parenting is what I like to call it. 252 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm doing it right or wrong. 253 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: That goes to your chill nature, like you're just like 254 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: day by day as things come your way and how 255 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: things come in and out of your life. Tell me 256 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: about so pre depression, like you had a big bout 257 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: of it before she was here. Before she was here, 258 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: when I was probably like war four months, three or 259 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: four or five months, those were like the worst times. 260 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: And I was almost just like, oh my gosh, like 261 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm now going to be a mom, and now being 262 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: a mom, of course, I'm like this is amazing. I 263 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: feel like a superwoman. But before I was, I was 264 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: scared because I'm like, you can't go back, Like now 265 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: you're okay, so I'm not like like cute, single, available girl, 266 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: like I'll have a kid, Like it was really hard 267 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: for me to get that. And and then I was 268 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: just like and then this commitment, you know with Matt, 269 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: like we're all like there's no disappearing here, like now 270 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: we're doing this, We're in it, oh my gosh. And 271 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: there was just a lot of that and a lot 272 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: of like, is it's going to change my lifestyles, It's 273 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: going to change how people look at me, Like am 274 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: I still cool? Like truly, all these thoughts went ran 275 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: through my mind. And then in addition to that, I 276 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: wasn't telling anybody at that point. I didn't want to 277 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: tell anybody. I felt super lone that was on the road, 278 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of jealousy because I was like, 279 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: you're continuing to live your life just like you had 280 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: prior to the this, and I'm now like, I can't drink, 281 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: I can't do this, I can't do that, Like this 282 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: is really confining and I don't like being confined. How 283 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: do you feel? Now? Do you feel? I feel great? 284 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I have tried not 285 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: to really miss a b Like I continue to live 286 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: my life and she is the most amazing thing that's 287 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: ever happened to it. But I am still myself. I 288 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: just now added another role, you know, into my repertoire, 289 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Like now I'm like also a mom, like add to 290 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: the multi hyphen it And that's how I look at it. 291 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: And I want her to see that I have continued 292 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: to be myself because I would not want her to 293 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: do the same thing when she you know, if she 294 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: does go through this process herself. But um, I don't 295 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: know that's what my mom is still to me. My 296 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: mom had my brother and I and then went to work, 297 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: and I just saw her hustle and then come back 298 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: and still be like the best mom ever. And she 299 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: made it look so effortless. And that's what I'm like, WHOA, 300 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: It definitely is an effortless but like she made it 301 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: look like that. I'm that's what I'm aspiring to. How's 302 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: your work life balance? So your mom worked and that 303 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: she went back to work. I had a big effect 304 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: on you because you were like, Wow, it's possible. So 305 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: my mom was a stay at home mom, which was 306 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: like who when I had? I went back to work 307 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: when Alby was eight weeks old, But it was such 308 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: I called my mom and I was like, and I 309 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: think my mom did a really great job raising my 310 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: brother and myself. And I was like, I feel like 311 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: a failure already. I feel like I should have I 312 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: feel like I can't believe I'm making this choice, but 313 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to raise my son with a bunch 314 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: of other people, Like it's not going to be me 315 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: by myself at all. Also, the two weeks my nanny 316 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: was sick and I was by myself with him. It 317 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: was like I was terrible at it and I didn't 318 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: like it or myself. Um that's not to say someone 319 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: I have, Oh my god, I have a very good 320 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: friend who was a hot shot, like top of the 321 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: game lawyer. She had her daughter completely done, quit her job, 322 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: wanted to be home. It's her how that that's what 323 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: felt right and good to her. Um, so your mom 324 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: worked and you were like, that's going to be my 325 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: story and how I was very much prior to having Alice. 326 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not taking time off. I'm getting 327 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: right back into it. Like this isn't going to change that. 328 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: We all say that, right exactly. That is a bullshit statement, absolutely, 329 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: and it was because, you know, after having her, I 330 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: was like, all right, and I'm gonna slow things down. 331 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: Like I hardly took a lot of photos. I wish 332 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: I took more, but I was so present and so 333 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: in the moment with her for that first little bit 334 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: that it was amazing, you know, And um, did you 335 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: have a maternity leave. I'm not shooting a show right now, 336 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: so I'm kind of like it's whenever I decide, you know, 337 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm like picking up my phone and I'll text a bit, 338 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: but it's I didn't really I didn't take an official leave. No, 339 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: like people still had access to me. Sure, I just 340 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: got back to them when I was ready. Great, So 341 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: it was nice. Yeah, great. Um, tell me about your 342 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: birth story. I remember listening to you or when I 343 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: was pregnant. I was like, oh my god, I think 344 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: I was out of my mind when I recorded that. 345 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I need to well know, I know it, 346 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: I love it, but I need to like because your 347 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: birth story, this is odd. I think it changes. I 348 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: think your memory of it changes. Well, obviously you're changes 349 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: because people have more than exactly, so like your memory 350 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: of it definitely changes. What is your story at the moment, 351 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Today's story at the moment. From what I can remember, 352 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: it was like hours or something. It was you were induced. 353 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: I was induced. My water broke. I got out of 354 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: the shower, and I was like, oh, crazy, like this 355 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: is what it feels like. It's kind of nice, Like 356 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was like chilling at home for 357 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: the first three hours, and then I always knew I 358 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: was going to go to the hospital. I myself feel 359 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: comfortable in a hospital more so than I would at home. Um, 360 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: so you know. I called my doctor and I was like, hey, 361 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: can you meet me here. He was like, oh, you 362 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: could probably labor more at home. I'm like, no, I 363 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: feel more comfortable at the hospital. So I felt there 364 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: very similar. Yeah, like very I was like getting me 365 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: in the hands of professional exactly and the same. So 366 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: I went over there and then you know, obviously like 367 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: not a lot was happening. So then they were like, okay, 368 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you potosa and I'm like, oh, I 369 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: remember this from all the stories that I've heard potos 370 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: and equals epidural. I'm like, I'm trying too, but if 371 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: it does, then cool. I had no birth plan. It 372 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: was really just like again, go with the front. It 373 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: was go with the flow because I mean, you can't 374 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: play it for this ship. I'm sorry, but like you 375 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: have a long list. It is so inspiring. Like I'm 376 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: just like, whoa, I need a dose on the regular. 377 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: So I went in they gave me pots in and 378 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, these are getting real. And 379 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: at that point I wanted to murder Matt when he 380 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: was sleeping because I was on the ball, like crying 381 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: like this is crazy, and I like almost was just 382 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: trying to prove to my dula in a way which 383 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: she didn't even care. But I was like, no, I 384 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: could do this for you, like if it was if 385 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: she wasn't in the very similar my dula. When I 386 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: called for the epidural, I looked at her and I said, 387 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you're disappointed to say and she said 388 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: I am not. But I was putting that on her. 389 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: She was they really couldn't care. It wasn't that, you know, 390 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm sorry. She's like stop. I'm like, okay, 391 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: you're good, and I'm gonna do it. Um. Anyway, so 392 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: then I got the epidurl and I was like, why 393 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: didn't I do this before? Like next time? Personally, I'm 394 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: walking in, give me the epidore watch a Netflix like 395 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing. Um. But then there was a 396 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: weird part with that too, because my legs were so 397 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: numb and Matt kept doing this thing. He'd come over, 398 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: lift my legs up and then drop them and be like, whoa, 399 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: you really can't feel them. I was like, bro, like 400 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: I can't stop doing that because I'm gonna have bruises 401 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: when I wake up from this. Okay anyways, no, um, 402 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: but it was. That was frustrating because that whole part 403 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: where I couldn't do anything because she wasn't moving was 404 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: frustrating because you're not comfortable even with the upper dolls. 405 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: It's very weird feeling to have your legs go completely weird, 406 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: you know. And then I was like, what if there's 407 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: a fire drill or I need to get up? Like 408 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: That's when I started having those thoughts. For a second, 409 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: let those pass, and then, um, the pushing part. It 410 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: was eleven minutes. I remember my doctor was so incredible, 411 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: came in like throughout the entire time. Um, he came 412 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: in and he was like, all right, your dial lated, 413 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: let's go. I pushed. It was eleven minutes, and I 414 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: was just like, I mean that feeling there's you can't 415 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: like to anybody, you just can't. It's like I was like, Oh, 416 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: there's a baby, whoa, that's mine. Oh this is real, 417 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, and it's just it's it's like the craziest 418 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: high you could ever have. As nuts. It's so remarkable. 419 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: I really I really think it's the closest however your 420 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: baby comes to you. I just really think it's like 421 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: it's a real fucking superhero movement for sure. It's just 422 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: superhero for sure. Like it's so crazy. Um, so you 423 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: guys did choose a duela? Um did you like having that? 424 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: They're so happy I did. And I was not thinking 425 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: I was going to do that before, Like when I 426 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: heard people get deals, I'm like, Okay, that's like, what 427 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: are they gonna do? No, she was incredible And when 428 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: the times when Matt was sleeping and I wanted to 429 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: kill him, she stopped me. And so it was really 430 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: good to have her in the room because she was 431 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: awake with me and she just calmed me down everything 432 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: about her. So I mean I would do it again. 433 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: She too. Yeah, And I was a think birth. I 434 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: think it used to be. I think it's different in 435 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: other places in the world, but I think, you know, 436 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting when you do it at a hospital. Nurses 437 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: are changing absolutely shifts all the time, and you could 438 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: have a labor that's over multiple days and you're most 439 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: of the time. If you have a partner, they don't 440 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: they don't know what then they're now. So it's just 441 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: so amazing. And your doctors and show up till the end. 442 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: So showed up for me. About the entire process for 443 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's not so I know that 444 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: there's one person who's been through a billion birds. Hopefully 445 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: if you go with an experienced DULA who is on 446 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: your case from start to finish, and I'll tell you 447 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: when they I think it's like they move you from 448 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: the labor and delivery room to the recovery room, and 449 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: she like packed up all of our ship and like, 450 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: thank God, like that small thing. I was like, I mean, 451 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't have legs, they don't work. Um, my husband's 452 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: out of his mind, just met his son, and like 453 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: I need someone else to help, like bring together my 454 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: toothbrush on my into It was cool because she would 455 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: also get my parents were in town for two weeks beforehand, 456 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: which anyways, Um, so they that would you recommend the 457 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: next time? I'm like, next time I going to labor, 458 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: I'll call you. Because they live in Vancouver. I'm like, 459 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: I'll call you when I go to labor next time, 460 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: so you can be here at that moment instead of 461 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: waiting two weeks before. Because that put a lot of parsons. 462 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: This is stressful now because you guys are here and like, 463 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: who knows how late she's going to come. I don't 464 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: know but no, going back to the Andre, she was 465 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: incredible because she also like knew when I wanted everybody 466 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: out of the room, and she had a way of 467 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: doing it that didn't insult them. She can play the 468 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: bad cop. She played the bad cop and it was great. Um, 469 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: so yeah, a hundred percent will have her. What was 470 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: your postpartum situation? Like, like, did you love it? Were 471 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: you in love immediately? I know we talked to you. 472 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: Have you had pre um partum depression but not postpartum depression? 473 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: Did it click in right away? Did you feel the 474 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: happiest you've ever felt? Like? What did you feel? It 475 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: was wild? And I feel like, I'm so grateful for 476 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: the amazing nurses I had at theaters. I truly wanted 477 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: to stay in the room with them forever, Like it 478 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: was such a pleasant experience that I had with them. 479 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: They made it so lovely and helped me out with 480 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: her right away. Um, you know, the breastfeeding was really 481 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: interesting and painful. But I had other friends who had 482 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: recently had kids too, and they were like, Shay, we're 483 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: on week three. Like, if you want to continue to 484 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: do it and it works for you, it's going to 485 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: get better, saying that yes, and so I had that 486 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: in my mind because I was like, otherwise, I'm like, 487 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm the only one with my nipples feeling 488 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: like that. I would be a breastfed one more day 489 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: if I hadn't had my village. And again for everyone listening, 490 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: I just I cannot emphasize enough having mothers around you. 491 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: You say, they're not mothers around you who are saying 492 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: things like you should know none of them or this 493 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: is what's best none just saying helpful things like I'm 494 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of you, and in my experience 495 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: it got better at eight weeks. That might not be 496 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: your case exactly. That's what I can tell you. And 497 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: I would hear things like that and I'd be like, okay, 498 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: like they like maybe I can, maybe I can. Um. Yeah, 499 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: I just feel like that's great that you had that. Um. 500 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: You posted like the most speaking of breastfeeding, gorgeous photo 501 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: of yourself breastfeeding back in December, and did you just 502 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: get so much attenion. I mean, it's the whole normalizing 503 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: breastfeeding thing is. To be honest, I wasn't even trying 504 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: to do that. I was at a photo shoot with 505 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: my style of seeding and then because she was there 506 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: and we got a photo and I loved it and 507 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: I put it out and you know, it's so interesting. 508 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: It was Socian Mitchell. You didn't even like know that 509 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: this would like waves. And I mean everything I've done 510 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: when I was pregnant now that everything is kind of 511 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: made a wave in one way or another. And like, 512 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: if I really care that much, I'd be up and 513 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: down every day, so I don't um. But with that, 514 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: it was interesting because people were just like, how dare 515 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: you make it looks so glamorous? And I'm like, I 516 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: was dressed up, but it does look glamorous in this time. 517 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 1: It does it all the time. They were thinking like 518 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: maybe this was a breastfeeding photo shoot. Yeah, and then 519 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: I was just trying to and then you know, they're like, 520 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: you make it uncomfortable for other people who don't look 521 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: like this when they breast me. I'm like, no, I'm 522 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: not trying to do that. I was at a photo shoot. 523 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: I had a full glamb team and this is what 524 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: it is. But like, let me tell you, I'm in 525 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: my sweatpants majority of the time, you know. And also 526 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: that's a fucking dope photo. And I hope you blowed up. Yeah, 527 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: and I am. But I'm also like, why do when 528 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: people think that we're doing things as a mother, do 529 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: you always have to picture a stained shirt? It's not 530 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: always like that. And that pissed me off because I 531 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: was like, I am in a stain shirt most of 532 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: the time, but when I am not, we can also 533 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: be glamorous in a dress of feeding our child, Like, 534 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: who were you to tell me? I don't know. That's 535 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: my whole feeling. I don't really get that crazy about 536 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: it because it makes me laugh. Did you breastfeed ever 537 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: in public? Or did you feel like that in public? Did? Yeah? 538 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: I just and you Like, I was sort of like, 539 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean again, I'm such a rule follower and type 540 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: of person, but I loved sort of rebelling, like I'd 541 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: be this is the one time in public I'm going 542 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: to have my tid out and everyone just has to 543 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: deal with it. Like I just was like, like I 544 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: at first, I was like all about covering and all 545 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: this stuff, and then I started hanging out with Kristen Bell, 546 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: who was like, are you kidding? She was like and no, 547 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: like her, Dax said that the more people that would 548 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: come over, the more times she would breastfeed with her 549 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: boot out, Like it's like it just it is, it 550 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm just like if I'm there 551 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: at the gym and I'm not like hello everybody, but 552 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: like I'll just do it. I just don't think about 553 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: it anymore. Like we take her out to dinner and 554 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: we go to you know places out there, and I'll 555 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: just take her out and beat her. You founded this 556 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: incredible luxury travel line. I'm obsessed with travel. We need 557 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: to talk about this. Pronounced the beautiful name for me 558 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: ba ba yes, Um, tell me about the latest collection 559 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: you're rolling out, Like, tell me how you're helping moms. 560 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: I feel like you and I are kindred spirits in 561 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: the travel world. I'm obsessed with traveling. My kid's been 562 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: on a fifty seven flights in his two and a 563 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: half year amazing. Um. He's been to seven countries. Travel 564 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: is the one place. It's my most favorite things, more 565 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: than anything on the planet. Um. And it's important. It 566 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: was Honestly, I can remember when Adam and I were 567 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: having we planned our son, but like we were having 568 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: so many conversations. We the one time we had to 569 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: go to couples therapy was because I was not. I 570 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: was so scared that having a child was going to 571 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: change my ability to travel because it's where I feel best, 572 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: and I'm curious, how have you traveled with her? It's 573 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: a big value for you as well. Obviously you have 574 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: an entire line of loggage. Yes, travel for me was 575 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: always I mean, like you said, it was my first love. 576 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing in the entire world. And you know, 577 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: when I was traveling, I always kind of look at 578 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: other people's bags and I look at my own bags, 579 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: and yes, you know, the stuff that was super funsy 580 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: but still to me doesn't seem as functional was always 581 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: way out of my budget. And the stuff, you know 582 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: that was affordable, it was just looked affordable, like looked 583 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: very cheap, and it was cheap and fell apart, and 584 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, I need something in the 585 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: middle that, you know, it was functional and cute and 586 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: maybe just a solid color, like maybe not paink with unicorns. 587 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: I love unicorns, but maybe I don't always want that 588 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: where I'm getting affordable luggage, like I want just cheek 589 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: luggage that has really functional and so I'd be on 590 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: the plane. I just draw up these ideas. You know, 591 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: it could be the weight indicator that we added to 592 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: our luggage, because all the times that I go there, 593 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: there's weight indicates you lift the handle and as the floor. Yeah, 594 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: of course, because I don't wear a genius who thinks 595 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: to buy literally who's standing on a scale and then 596 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm having a hold the scale, Well, I'm on it. 597 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: It's so dup. I'm gonna you're good. I'll send you. 598 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: And it was everything from like the handle, you know, 599 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: I remember being like, if I'm running to a flight, 600 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: like the handle would really cramp my hand and when 601 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: I was holding it, so I put a cushion under 602 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: all the handles, and people this is genious. Yeah, But 603 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: it was just because I had so much experience on 604 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: the road and on the go, I'd come up with 605 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: these things that I selfishly wanted to create for myself. 606 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: You know, Like sitting there and looking at the airplane 607 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: pocket in front of you, I was like, that's disgusting. 608 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: There needs to be a pocket that I can put 609 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: in so my laptop and stuff I don't have to 610 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: go reaching forward in the pocket. So I thought organizer exactly. 611 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: So all these different things kept coming to me and 612 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what. You know, people would 613 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: have been asking like, or you need to have a 614 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: makeup line, You're gonna do a clothing line? Like I 615 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: love those things, but I don't have an interest in 616 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: doing them. I really want to go into the travel 617 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: market because I feel like there's a white space for 618 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: it and that I can fill um. And so that's 619 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: kind of how Base came about. And now most recently, 620 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: we just dropped our diaper bag collection, which I'm super 621 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: excited about because when I was looking for bags, you know, 622 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: it was like the two designer ones and then the 623 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: other ones that to me personally, I wasn't into. They 624 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: looked like diaper bags. And I don't want to ride 625 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: away be like, oh you have diapers in there. No, 626 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: I want to be able to take it to a 627 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: meeting and then I have my daughter with me and 628 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: people be like that's a cute bag, no matter if 629 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: their mother or not, you know. And so that's how 630 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: our diaper bag collection came about. And truly, if you 631 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: take out the changing pad, it's a chic bag. It's 632 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: just a ch Why are we just why are diaper 633 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: bags so shitty? I don't know, I really don't know, 634 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: because It's like, why, like they're carrying shooty things inside, Like, 635 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: can we just not make it look like just I 636 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: don't hate when things scream, like because I have a 637 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: functional and so people are crazy. To be functional, they 638 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: don't have to look like diaper bags. We're literally doing 639 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: the sickest diaper bag backpack that I'm like, I can't. 640 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this because it transforms into like 641 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: a different kind of bag, two bags. I'm just going 642 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: to leave it at that, but I'm telling you, it's 643 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: a transformer. It's a transformer. It's chicaf and the stuff 644 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: that we have coming for Mom's babies, all of that 645 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and the travel world is so exciting. 646 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: This is this is good. Um, So with that, have 647 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: you taken Atlas on trips? Yes? I took her too Thancouver. 648 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: I feel it was her first trip to visit my grandma, 649 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: and so that was incredible. Um, she did a plane ride, 650 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: we did a helicopter ride to the island, and then 651 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: after that we had to go to Paris. So I 652 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: took her to Paris and it was I mean, honestly, 653 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's truly my child and living 654 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: into her name. Because she loves an airplane. Like she 655 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: is great. You know, she's up and then she'll sleep, 656 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: but for right now, for right now, because I could 657 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: just hear people being like, wait until like she crawls, 658 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: wait until she It was really only bad for us 659 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: when he learned how to walk, because it was like 660 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: cajing a gorilla. He doesn't have to sit for six hours. 661 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: He wants to keep practicing, and he wants to go 662 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: up and down the aisles and he wants to crawl, 663 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: and we did. I mean, I've never gotten in that 664 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: many steps ever. See, I'm excited for that moment because 665 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: that's when Matt's going to take over. You know, that's 666 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: up and down. I'll be here and then we'll go 667 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 1: and hang out in the bathroom for like three like 668 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: a while, and he just pulls out all the toilet 669 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: paper and all the stuff. UM tell me about um 670 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: any self care routine tips like are you like a meditator? 671 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: How do you're just chill as fuck? Like I'm not, 672 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: because because what's the alternative? Like are you sleeping out? 673 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: Did you sleep immediately? But I don't really sleep. I 674 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: didn't sleep prior to Atlas that much like I don't 675 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: really sleep a lot. That was the one benefit of 676 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: me going into this is that I wasn't used to 677 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: having a lot of sleep regardless. But to me, I'm 678 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: always asking, I'm like, is this a crazy big deal 679 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: whatever it is that I'm you know, in and will 680 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: we be like what's the alternative? Dressing out and freaking 681 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: out and then what like that doesn't accomplish anything either, 682 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: and like no one wants to be around that. And 683 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: like Matt super chill too. He's a little bit more 684 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: of a hypochondract than I am, but I bring him 685 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: back down. I'm like, she's fine, You're fine. Has she 686 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: had like a major cold or throw I had diarrheas, 687 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: I had a january and and you know I had 688 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: heard and read. I was like, oh but if I'm 689 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: resting her, she won't get it. If she got it, 690 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: so she Yeah. It was It was, you know, so 691 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: sad because but he was right there with the whole 692 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: like snot sucker. I couldn't do that. I still can't, 693 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: but he's a pro at it and like Sailene snot Sucker, 694 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: like he was getting in there and totally crushing it 695 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: with her. Um, but it were you afraid. Ever, No, 696 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: fear is not your go to. It's just but yeah, 697 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: it's not because it's like that doesn't help anything. No, No, 698 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm super cautious. Trust me, Like I have hands, Sandy, 699 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm always prepared to the max. I'm prepared, but I'm 700 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: not going to stress out because I also feel like 701 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: that energy in my mind sufconsciously, like through osmosis and 702 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I truly believe that it can seep 703 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: into them sometimes and then cause her to be a 704 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: little bit more anxious. I don't want that. I want 705 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: to be like even Keel super cool. So if she 706 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: is scared, you know, she's like, oh, but I don't 707 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: feel it from you, so we're good. You know. It's 708 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: like how you look at the flight attendants on the plane. 709 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm always like, Okay, is she okay, she's not looking 710 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: like she's freaking out. We're good. I need to be 711 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: that flight attendant at all times for them. You know, 712 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: do you ever feel mom guilt? Is that a thing 713 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: for you or is it? Because like I said, I 714 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: want her to know that, Like I'm continuing, the better 715 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 1: I feel and the better my mind is, the better 716 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to be for her, you know, the happier 717 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: I am, And like that's really important for me. I 718 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: have to go out and I need to go and 719 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: do my workouts fit that in. I need to fit 720 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: in my time with my girlfriends without her there. I 721 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: need to fit out in times with Matt you know 722 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: where it's she's not there, so that like my sanity 723 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: is good and when I come back, she's getting That's 724 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: really the thing that Troy and said that didn't try. 725 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: I think Troyan on her podcast was like, it's the 726 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: whole I put my mask on first on the airplane 727 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: bringing it back to Tremble, but like you put your 728 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: mask on first, so you feel God, s Mitchell, you're inspiration. Good. 729 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: Let's just say how amazing it is to have a 730 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: Troy and Bellisario in our lives too. Is im oh 731 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: my last weekend And like she's like French and all 732 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: sign language and all the stuff. I'm like in French 733 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: to her child and sign language. It's so dumb. But 734 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: she also is also a very chill mom. She is 735 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: also very chill. Um I would say, between us and 736 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: all the listeners, I think you're even chiller, which is 737 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: incredible to me. Um I think she's my chill mom friend, 738 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: like she's the one, and wow, you're even more so. 739 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Um um, what is next for you? Oh 740 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: my gosh, are you like ready to jump in and 741 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: have another baby now? And Matt was like, why don't 742 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: you just like you know, get it done, yeah, run 743 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: it back? And I'm like, well you want to. I'd 744 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: be more than happy to support you on your journey 745 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: of you delivering one. But for me, right now, I 746 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: want to enjoy her and I want to see her 747 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: like grow up a little bit and walk and do 748 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: all these like little important first things with her right now. 749 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: And then you know, who knows, who knows, who knows 750 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: what's going to happen for the next one, Like I 751 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm enjoying it right now and it's 752 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: and yeah's next for you? Work wise? Work wise? Going 753 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: back to work on doll phase per season two? Where 754 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: does it l A? I know that dream? I know 755 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: it's really nice. And you mean having the other girls 756 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: on the show too is awesome because she'll have like 757 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: three other like aunties. Are you the only mom on 758 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: the show of Yes, that's great and important. That's an 759 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: important torch to carry. I always think, no matter what 760 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: job place you're in, if you are the first to 761 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: be you know, doing the mom journey, it's like you're 762 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: really setting precedent for a lot of people who worked there. Yeah, 763 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: and they said the same thing when I was pregnant, 764 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: because they're like funck sha, like now when we're bring 765 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: we can't complain about this stuff. And I was like, 766 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: because because you didn't come because I was pregnant at 767 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: six months shooting these shows and like and it was 768 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, like we all know, crazy long hours. I 769 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: was wearing heels, that's my character war. I was so 770 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: like obsessed with her being this like fashionista person. So 771 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: I was like, well more heels better. And that was 772 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: at three months. Six months. I was like, don't fit exactly, 773 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: but no, it was it was. It was good and 774 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: it was fun and it was like cool that I 775 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: proved it to myself I could do it. At the end, 776 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: I was ready for it to be done because I 777 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I can't go on any longer. And 778 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't know who saw it, but I'd highly suggest 779 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: running diapers if you're still probably like that to me. 780 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: I wore diapers. Yeah, I wore diapers on Broadway. Oh amazing. 781 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: Like I was like horrified because I hadn't done anything 782 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: like really physical and I just six a month old 783 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: and we were doing like lifts and throws and I 784 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,479 Speaker 1: was running, and I was like, I don't know, guys, 785 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: this could come out of left field and I could 786 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: just dump a whole lot of yurine all over this 787 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: Broadway st and diapers. Prior to that, I'm saying, when 788 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: I was on set shooting those long hours, I was 789 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: like the bathrooms all the way. Okay, basing What is 790 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 1: your advice for new moms out there, I would say, 791 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: don't stress yourself out because in your mind you're like, 792 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this right. I'm not perfect. Like look 793 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: by the way, your kids not holding a grudge. They're 794 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: not keeping tally of what you're doing right or what 795 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: you're doing wrong. They're really not. They want you to 796 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: love them and give them attention, and I mean they 797 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: feed off that energy. I truly believe that. So when 798 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: you were super stressed out, I mean, just try and 799 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: pull it back a little bit and be like what 800 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: I got this, you got this, you got this. And 801 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: also you can reach out to someone who can help 802 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: you absolutely, and there are always there's places you can 803 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: go to talk about things if you're not feeling well. 804 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: There's so many amazing places out there. Wow, incredible, and 805 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: you're not even like a meditator for twenty minutes a 806 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: day now. And my parents, my dad took me to 807 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: meditation when I was younger, So I still like, maybe 808 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: that's wow, it all sunk. Maybe dads are like I 809 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: have no idea. A lot of those self help books, 810 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: he'd always have it on a books. Maybe that played 811 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: a part two. But you can tell us what meditation 812 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: school you're dad took you to, or what audio tapes 813 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: he was putting on it. If we played them for 814 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: our children, they might be really chill like you. Um, 815 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: but thank you so much for being on Katie's Crib. 816 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: This was so helpful and also just so beautiful to 817 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: talk to a mom who's rocking it. Um, Atlas is 818 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: beautiful and you are beautiful, And thank you so much 819 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: of you. Thank you, thank you for having me. H, 820 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for listening to episode one 821 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: of the two part episode finale of Katie's Crib Season three. 822 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: I invite you all to listen to episode two with 823 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: Shae Mitchell in February of one Let's Hear How Shay 824 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: Mitchell's motherhood journey has e ball. Katie's Crib is a 825 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: production of Shonda land Audio in partnership with I Heart Radio. 826 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from Shawn land Audio, visit the I 827 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 828 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: your favorite shows, I'm chill you track, Thank You,