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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about the mess in Afghanistan now for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and things have gotten much worse

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Speaker 1: as we had been warning that they might be. We're

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a breaking news story. Multiple explosions

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Speaker 1: outside of the Kabul airport have killed many and wounded

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Speaker 1: at least three United States Marines. It is chaos on

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Speaker 1: the ground in Kabul. The most disastrous foreign policy decisions

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Speaker 1: of most of our lives made by the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: Sigon on steroids, Benghazi on steroids, whatever awful scenes you

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Speaker 1: may be thinking of, whether it's Sigon in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: five or your thing about Hillary Clinton and the Benghazi

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Speaker 1: mess that went on, things are worse than that on

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Speaker 1: the ground right now in Afghanistan. It's likely by the

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Speaker 1: time our troops leave that there are going to be

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Speaker 1: thousands of Americans potentially still left behind. We could have

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Speaker 1: hostage crisis situations, which thankfully we have not yet had.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly not safe for anyone who is trying to

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Speaker 1: evacuate Afghanistan to get to the airport right now. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be following all of this as this

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Speaker 1: breaking news continues. The White House has a press availability scheduled.

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Speaker 1: We will see what they have to say. We have

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Speaker 1: got great guests lined up for you. Sean Parnell, who

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Speaker 1: was on the ground in Afghanistan, will join us in

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Speaker 1: the back half of this hour. Christy Noahm, the governor,

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Speaker 1: has been involved in some of the Afghanistan decisions as

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Speaker 1: a governor. She has scheduled to join us in the

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Speaker 1: second hour. And then a reporter who did phenomenal work

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Speaker 1: on the ground in the Middle East, Lara Logan, now

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Speaker 1: with News, will join us in hour three. But I

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Speaker 1: want to begin this show. We'll bring in Buck here

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Speaker 1: right after this. This is a eyewitness describing the scene

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Speaker 1: after the explosions in Kabul, Afghanistan. Listen to this translated

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Speaker 1: for the United States RNCO. I was over here to

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Speaker 1: go and get him. Goes to day to foot and

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Speaker 1: get out on the plane and get out of here.

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Speaker 1: There was an explosion that happened inside the A lot

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Speaker 1: that she goes five year sold She died rod in

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Speaker 1: my hand I don't know what exactly. I think some

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Speaker 1: of the Americans take out hurt too, and so people

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Speaker 1: are running around right now. I have some casualties with

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Speaker 1: me and my vehicle, and I'm taking him to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: A five year old died in his arm. Some of

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Speaker 1: you may have had difficulty hearing that, obviously, you can

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Speaker 1: well imagine reacting in real time on the ground. Buck

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Speaker 1: this is. We've been warning that this could get much

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Speaker 1: worse than it already was, and it could be getting

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Speaker 1: much worse from here. At this point, there's no other

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Speaker 1: way to describe this than an unmitigated disaster the likes

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Speaker 1: of which we haven't seen in decades of American foreign policy.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we reported Clay on that threat stream yesterday,

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Speaker 1: everybody who knows this part of the world, who's worked

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Speaker 1: in counter terrorism or just on the national security side,

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Speaker 1: military side, knew that we were in for a very

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Speaker 1: rough twenty four or forty eight hours. Because it's hard

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Speaker 1: enough to protect soft targets when the US military is

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Speaker 1: willing to go into a crowded marketplace, people that are

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Speaker 1: try to create mass casualties. It's not a difficult thing

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Speaker 1: to do. And as we know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: suicide vests or s vests. But we're reliant the first

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Speaker 1: line of security. I mean, this is it's almost it's

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Speaker 1: hard to say it out loud, but it's true. Our

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Speaker 1: first line of defense right now for Americans and Afghans

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Speaker 1: crowding in the gates of Kabbal International Airport is Taliban checkpoint. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I know that people are saying that's how can

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Speaker 1: that be? Now, I'm not obviously claiming that Taliban is

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Speaker 1: who they're letting through, how they're letting them through. Were

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Speaker 1: they absolutely complicit in this attack? But you'd have to say,

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Speaker 1: if they wanted to be complicit in attacks, it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be hard at all. So if it's only a handful

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Speaker 1: It looks like it's the work, and this would tie

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Speaker 1: when they say very credible, very specific threat stream like that,

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Speaker 1: They're talking about the civilians out that they're distracted, they're

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can just imagine you're with your family,

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Speaker 1: You're trying to get through this crush of people. Now

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Speaker 1: every person that you are near, man or woman could

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Speaker 1: there in time. Clay, it's taking long enough for people

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to do checks for suicide vests,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be processing people for months. And we

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Speaker 1: I think that's well said, and you hinted at this.

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Speaker 1: which is incredibly difficult, and you've gotten to Kabul and

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Speaker 1: you're close to that airport. Is it in any way

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Speaker 1: advisable for you to be in a crowd at this

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Speaker 1: in that what probably is a suicide attack. We don't

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Speaker 1: your point, Buck, the way that people dress in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: It makes it almost possible to see who would be

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Speaker 1: We have given American security over to a terrorist organization

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Speaker 1: which is not allowing us to take as much time

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Speaker 1: proof he was involved. Now we have given promises that

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Speaker 1: in nine to eleven. If we were, but this is

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Speaker 1: a big question. But Buck, if we were willing to

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Speaker 1: weren't all willing. But he was impeached over a phone

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Speaker 1: is for the voters to decide. Clay, The problem is

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Speaker 1: You usually don't think that a presidency is going to

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Speaker 1: In this way, Yeah, the Biden administration has no good

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Speaker 1: are the chances that Americans are going to be left

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Speaker 1: that's the biggest travesty of everything, because as a veteran,

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Speaker 1: we don't leave our people behind. From day one, the

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Speaker 1: first day of training. It's woven into the very fabric

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Speaker 1: And I have no confidence whatsoever in the Biden administration's

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Speaker 1: up to the challenge. And you know, this is a

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Speaker 1: guy right that doesn't know where he is half the time.

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Speaker 1: How are we going to expect him to be evacuated

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Speaker 1: thousands of Americans that are in one of the most complex,

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Speaker 1: rugged hostile nations on the planet. But he doesn't know

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Speaker 1: where they are, so I think that he is. He

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Speaker 1: and his entire administration are telling you they are woefully

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Speaker 1: out of their depths on this one. And this has

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Speaker 1: become the greatest foreign policy disaster, I mean, certainly since

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Speaker 1: the Vietnam War, but perhaps ever in this country. And

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Speaker 1: the worst part about all of it is, I think

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Speaker 1: we're just at the beginning. Sean. I was going to

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Speaker 1: ask you, what do you think the chances are here

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Speaker 1: that and I know this is We've got to deal

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Speaker 1: with a lot of very uncomfortable things right now as possible.

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Speaker 1: As we have Americans in harms way, we have a

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Speaker 1: US military, thousands of US military that are very much

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Speaker 1: in harm's way as well. We have American civilians, We

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Speaker 1: have Afghan SIV green essentially green card holders who are

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Speaker 1: trying to get out of the country. And we may

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Speaker 1: be facing a wave of these complex attacks in cobble

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Speaker 1: in Frontyone's joining US. Thirteen dead, fifty two wounded in

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Speaker 1: these dual cobble explosions at the airport right next to

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Speaker 1: to go up, and it's likely there will be more

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Speaker 1: attacks as already specific threat reporting about that. Sean people

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Speaker 1: are looking this saying, if this really gets out of hand,

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Speaker 1: contingent of Americans behind, Is there a possibility there's going

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Speaker 1: to have to be another deployment of US troops to

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Speaker 1: go and get them. Well yes, well, well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that country for another twenty years. But I think that

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Speaker 1: we need to go into cobble. And this is not

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Speaker 1: me being a warmonger. I hate war. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: up close and personal. Anybody that seemed more hates it.

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Speaker 1: But at this point, we've got to go into cobble

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Speaker 1: I mean, because right now our troops are in a static,

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Speaker 1: defensive location. They don't have a combat power to really

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Speaker 1: do anything but really be trapped in that airport, totally,

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Speaker 1: totally at the behest of the Taliban right they can't

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Speaker 1: And so I don't want to see us bogged down

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Speaker 1: protect American citizens who are trapped behind the enemy enemy

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Speaker 1: more insulting than the Bide administration inferring just just as

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Speaker 1: don't really want to come home anyway because it didn't

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Speaker 1: heat our warning, Joe Biden for the last six months

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Speaker 1: So no wonder we're in a place right now where

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Speaker 1: the afpac border in this conflict zone, Sean what do

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Speaker 1: I think that Hamid Karzai Airport will close, and I'm speaking,

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Speaker 1: I'm just guessing, just by having watched how the Biden

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Speaker 1: Karzai airports are going to close. I think they're only

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Speaker 1: And I think that you're going to see a complete

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Speaker 1: And it pains me to have to say it because

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Speaker 1: And so I think that he's gonna I think that

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Speaker 1: White House seems to be treating this like it's just

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Speaker 1: few days goes, Welcome Back to the Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sex and show this is bucking There. You had

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Speaker 1: this off air, and I shouldn't say true astonishment because

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Speaker 1: I mean the gas lighting that is going on here.

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Speaker 1: as if that's some kind of a success to be

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Speaker 1: so fast, so you can't be mad at us for

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Speaker 1: steering into that big piece of ice. Clay, the entire

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Speaker 1: Biden presidency, I think anyone who's being honest right now,

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Speaker 1: for all of the folks out there, and just to

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Speaker 1: be clear, we want every American out single most important thing,

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Speaker 1: the single focus of our efforts to talk to people

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Speaker 1: different organizations who specialize in just that, who are right now,

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Speaker 1: give away any operational security components because that's what we're

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Speaker 1: coming down to you. Now, can you sneak around the

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Speaker 1: Taliban checkpoints? Can you avoid the deployment now of was

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Speaker 1: has to look at this and say, the Biden presidency

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Speaker 1: could very well be written in a way that is unchangeable.

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Speaker 1: The epitaph in a sense of the Biden presidency could

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Speaker 1: happen in the next seventy two hours. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's well said. What about the sheer

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Speaker 1: playing out. I know a lot of people were upset

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Speaker 1: him scheduled on the day when Afghanistan. Joe Biden is

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Speaker 1: trying to technically the former president. But yes, I'm always

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna join us on Tuesday. And you could criticize,

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Speaker 1: have been tweeting like crazy, and people can say, well,

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Speaker 1: they may do. The clear answer is they aren't, and

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Speaker 1: that absence of communication. Joe Biden can't communicate, he can

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Speaker 1: don't know that Biden has any ability to punch back

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Speaker 1: And I worry that with you know, Blinkin and Saki

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Speaker 1: I'm quite confident and unfortunately, Yeah, and Sean Parnell just

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Speaker 1: told us one hundred percent chance he thinks we'll be

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Speaker 1: leaving people behind. We're gonna be talking to the Governor

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Speaker 1: of South Dakota, Christie Noum here in a few moments

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Speaker 1: about the situation in Afghanistan and also some COVID policy,

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Speaker 1: because we want to make sure we get to all

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Speaker 1: the news of the day here, but we'll be following

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Speaker 1: minute by minute the latest on these two terror attacks

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Speaker 1: at the Kabbo International Airport. Are we gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to fight through this? My friends, stay with us. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sextons fun EIB Network

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