Speaker 1: What's that.
Speaker 2: Bed.
Speaker 1: It's spooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I said, hiros Dress, Hey boo, it's
Speaker 3: me Roz.
Speaker 4: How are you.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm doing just fine. You know, I'm always doing
Speaker 1: great when it's a listener episode. But I just recorded
Speaker 1: an episode that you know, I hate to use this
Speaker 1: word as much as I do, but a truly iconic episode.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I talk to Andrea Parrin, who grew
Speaker 1: up in the original house that inspired the first Conjuring movie.
Speaker 1: We chatted and we chatted. She gave me like two
Speaker 1: hours of her time. We had so much fun, but
Speaker 1: also it was terrifying. It was just oh, it was
Speaker 1: so great. What an amazing guest to have on the show.
Speaker 1: And special shout out to Patrick Keller for hooking us up.
Speaker 1: Because Patrick who listens to the show and has a
Speaker 1: great podcast called The Big Seance Podcast with Patrick Keller,
Speaker 1: and we recently recorded and I'll be a guest on
Speaker 1: that show soon, so go check it out. And Patrick,
Speaker 1: you know, knows Andrea and hooked us up and it
Speaker 1: was It's definitely gonna be a two part episode starting
Speaker 1: next week, so just look out for it. In the meantime,
Speaker 1: go watch The Conjuring. And you know another reason why
Speaker 1: it's so perfect, just because the latest Conjuring film, which
Speaker 1: really has nothing to do with the first Conjuring, because
Speaker 1: you know, those movies are all based on the cases
Speaker 1: of ad Lorraine Warren. But nonetheless, there's going to be
Speaker 1: a Conjuring movie coming out I believe next week. I
Speaker 1: think June fourth. Oh my god, it's ready June anyway,
Speaker 1: so perfect timing for that conversation, so look out for that.
Speaker 1: And before we get into the listener episode this month,
Speaker 1: since it's all about the listeners, I did see pretty
Speaker 1: interesting story in the Facebook group of course, called Ghosted
Speaker 1: by rosdres Flees. This one comes from Robin Robin Wrights.
Speaker 1: Here's what I remember growing up in a haunted house.
Speaker 1: This all happened between the age of thirteen and sixteen.
Speaker 1: I was living with my mom and two sisters, one
Speaker 1: sister fourteen months older, the other nine years older. Oh wow.
Speaker 1: At around puberty I started having what I learned later
Speaker 1: to be sleep paralysis. But each episode was always different
Speaker 1: and terrifying.
Speaker 4: HM.
Speaker 1: Much like this podcast. There was times where quote the
Speaker 1: old Hag would climb on top of my chest in
Speaker 1: the shape of a cat or witchy creature. Sometimes there
Speaker 1: was a smaller boylike figure that I would see standing
Speaker 1: in the doorway. And sometimes I wouldn't see or hallucinate anything,
Speaker 1: but feel immense fear like something awful was about to happen.
Speaker 1: There were a few times I was so scared it
Speaker 1: was enough for me to fight my way out of
Speaker 1: the paralysis state. One night, I even floated above my
Speaker 1: body and saw myself sleeping, got scared and went right
Speaker 1: back into my body and didn't sleep the rest of
Speaker 1: the night. I grew to teach myself to sense when
Speaker 1: I was about to have an episode, and I would
Speaker 1: have to stay awake for the rest of the night,
Speaker 1: Otherwise if I fell asleep, I would slip right into
Speaker 1: sleep paralysis. I could tell from buzzing feeling that I
Speaker 1: had in my head. Very strange times only happened a
Speaker 1: few times as an adult. Besides my own experiences, my
Speaker 1: sister heard over two consecutive nights, someone walking back and
Speaker 1: forth outside her bedroom door late at night. She thought
Speaker 1: it was me, so she didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 1: The second night, she shouted for me to go to bed,
Speaker 1: and the footsteps stopped promptly outside her door. She went
Speaker 1: to investigate, thinking it was me and no one was there.
Speaker 1: She was so freaked out she came into my room
Speaker 1: after and woke me up to tell me my mom
Speaker 1: would also have variances, mainly via dreams. She dreamt a
Speaker 1: little boy died where we lived, and she described him
Speaker 1: the way I saw him during one of my sleep
Speaker 1: paralysis nights. One day, my sister and I were goofing
Speaker 1: around playing some form of tag in the house. It
Speaker 1: was a loop from the hallway to the living room,
Speaker 1: then dining room, through the kitchen, and back to the hallway.
Speaker 1: My sister was chasing after me and said she was
Speaker 1: going to throw I think a spoon or something that
Speaker 1: she was holding at me in a playful sibling way.
Speaker 1: This went on for a few rounds around the loop.
Speaker 1: Then something hit the back of my head in the
Speaker 1: hallway and went flying past me behind the couch into
Speaker 1: the living room. I yelled at her, and she came
Speaker 1: out from the kitchen, nowhere near me, and was still
Speaker 1: holding her item. I looked behind the couch and this
Speaker 1: silver ring was still spinning. It wasn't a ring either
Speaker 1: one of us had seen before and to this day
Speaker 1: we don't know who threw the object at me. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's more, but this is all my memory holds.
Speaker 1: Love the show, Ras Robin from Ottawa, Ontario. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that is the kind of sleep proalysis story where it
Speaker 1: starts to get real paranormal where it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: more than one person kind of experiences what happens during
Speaker 1: the sleep aaralysis. And also, I mean you told an
Speaker 1: old Hag story and as an old Hag myself, I
Speaker 1: feel very comforted being represented and the rest of the
Speaker 1: old Hag community. Thank you. Robn okay on with this
Speaker 1: month's listener episode. As always, if you want to be
Speaker 1: on a listener episode, please send me an email at
Speaker 1: ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com with the subject
Speaker 1: line listener episode and you know, just give me a
Speaker 1: sentences about your paranormal stories and maybe we can work
Speaker 1: something out. And we always have a little bit extra
Speaker 1: for you. On Patreon and this week on my first
Speaker 1: tier you can see the part two of how I
Speaker 1: do my drag makeup? Finally given that to you, so
Speaker 1: the very exclusive transformation of me putting on my makeup
Speaker 1: on camera. You can see part one and two now
Speaker 1: on patreon dot com slash rosdres Falise and on my
Speaker 1: second tier this month, I have a little bit from
Speaker 1: our second caller on this episode, Rachel. The two of
Speaker 1: us are talking about a little bit of twin paranormal phenomena,
Speaker 1: possibly some telepathy of sorts, and also a haunted theater
Speaker 1: from Rachel's days of high school theater. So go check
Speaker 1: that out Patreon dot com slash Ross jez Falz and
Speaker 1: I say we go for it. On with the show
Speaker 1: There's a Ghost in My House. Oh my god. I
Speaker 1: am joined by Becky with an I from Las Vegas. Hi, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you? I am so good. You're a member
Speaker 1: of the Facebook group. I feel like, didn't I just
Speaker 1: read one of your stories on the show?
Speaker 5: You did? And it's great because I can I got
Speaker 5: more stories about that house that we lived in.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, wait, let's hear it, like, okay,
Speaker 1: so refresh us about the story. It tell us everything.
Speaker 5: Okay. So the story that you read was one of
Speaker 5: the initial one of the big deals that happened in
Speaker 5: the house. We came home from dinner and I ran
Speaker 5: inside because I had my new cassette tapes, because because
Speaker 5: I'm an old lady, but I was a kid. I
Speaker 5: was like, I don't know, twelve something, thirteen maybe at
Speaker 5: the time, and my parents were getting my little brother
Speaker 5: out of the car. He was still in his car seat,
Speaker 5: and I came running in. They were in the garage.
Speaker 5: I came running into the house, running up the stairs
Speaker 5: to go play my new music, and I had something
Speaker 5: just stopped me right in my tracks as I was
Speaker 5: going up the stairs, like almost like a wall, but
Speaker 5: obviously there was nothing there, just dread, just an absolute
Speaker 5: feeling of dread and heaviness. And I look up and
Speaker 5: as I look up the stairs, at the top of
Speaker 5: the stairs, it kind of curbed into a landing, and
Speaker 5: I could see the shadow cast of a very large
Speaker 5: masculine figure on the opposite side coming towards me down
Speaker 5: the landing in my direction. And that wouldn't have been
Speaker 5: so bad if I didn't actually hear the footsteps of
Speaker 5: that being or whatever it was, coming down the landing
Speaker 5: in my direction. And I knew I didn't have a
Speaker 5: lot of time because there's not a lot of space
Speaker 5: between where he was and where I was. So I
Speaker 5: heard the footsteps, heard the way of this thing on
Speaker 5: the stairs coming down, flipped around. I don't think I
Speaker 5: touched any stairs on the way back down, ran into
Speaker 5: the garage, almost almost smashed my stepdad in the face
Speaker 5: with the door when I when I flew the door open,
Speaker 5: I told them that there was somebody in the house.
Speaker 5: I like I said before in the story, I did
Speaker 5: not think this was a ghost or an entity. I
Speaker 5: was convinced this was a solid human intruder in our home.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, A shadow that also can produce foot sounds.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, this was. This thing had weight, It
Speaker 5: was coming down the stairs. I heard every step and
Speaker 5: it was horrifying.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was no mistaking it.
Speaker 1: By the time that happened. Did you have any reason
Speaker 1: to believe that there could be a ghost in the
Speaker 1: house or anything like that.
Speaker 5: We had not been living in the house as far
Speaker 5: as I recalled that long. At that point. We had
Speaker 5: some little things happen here and there, like the TV
Speaker 5: would go on and off by itself. We'd tell it
Speaker 5: to stop and it would stop, and kind of change
Speaker 5: channels on command and stuff, but nothing that we could
Speaker 5: solidify or actually connect it to poltergeists behavior or any
Speaker 5: kind of activity in that way. So no, I mean
Speaker 5: not at that point, not something that was that extreme.
Speaker 1: No, So after it happened, then, are you like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got more than just a ghost that likes to
Speaker 1: flip the channels.
Speaker 5: Yes, well at that point, this at this point, yes,
Speaker 5: because when my stepdad ran in to do a little
Speaker 5: investigating and we were in the car, he told us
Speaker 5: to keep it running in case we had to bowld
Speaker 5: because if there was somebody in the house, we didn't
Speaker 5: know if they were armed or anything. We were This
Speaker 5: was really terrifying. And he went in the house and
Speaker 5: there was literally nobody there. He did a full sweep upstairs, downstairs,
Speaker 5: no windows open, no sign of entry anywhere, nothing was disturbed.
Speaker 5: And that was even more confusing and scary.
Speaker 1: So what else happened there?
Speaker 5: So there was one We had a new puppy and
Speaker 5: it was a little Sharpay puppy, and Sharpay's just they
Speaker 5: just love to sleep. He's just a big sleeper. And
Speaker 5: I was sitting on the couch downstairs. It was kind
Speaker 5: of late at night and my family was upstairs sleeping,
Speaker 5: so I was the only one awake in the house
Speaker 5: and I was downstairs watching TV because back then I
Speaker 5: would watch like the MTB in the middle of the night.
Speaker 5: And Jake was the name of the dog, and he
Speaker 5: was sleeping on my lap and he was snoring away.
Speaker 5: And this dog would like sleep like a log. You
Speaker 5: couldn't just wake him up easily. And he was sleeping
Speaker 5: on my lap. We're all cozy watching videos. And down
Speaker 5: the hall to my right from the couch I was
Speaker 5: sitting on, it was kind of a long, dark hallway.
Speaker 5: There was kind of a half bath in the laundry room,
Speaker 5: and then it led to the garage door. And I
Speaker 5: was sitting there and I could hear like noise coming
Speaker 5: from the garage and it was the middle of the night,
Speaker 5: this was past midnight, just like movement, I don't know,
Speaker 5: like something somebody was in there. And then like I
Speaker 5: I turned them TV down for a second and I
Speaker 5: was like, what was that? And then it stopped. So
Speaker 5: I was like, well, maybe it's just like the wind
Speaker 5: outside or you know whatever, the house settling. Maybe I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 1: And then the.
Speaker 5: Doorknob started jiggling violently, like jiggle, jiggle, jiggle, jiggle, like
Speaker 5: someone was trying to actively get into the house from
Speaker 5: the garage. And we always locked the garage door obviously
Speaker 5: from the inside, and the only way you can get
Speaker 5: in the garage is if you have a garage door opener.
Speaker 5: If you're in the outside, there's no way to get
Speaker 5: And I'd never heard the garage door open, and because
Speaker 5: back this was like the late eighties, so when the
Speaker 5: garage door opened, the whole house you could hear it.
Speaker 5: You know, nothing, nothing, couldn't hear anything. It was just
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the doorknob. But right before that
Speaker 5: I totally forgot. The dog perked his head up out
Speaker 5: of a dead sleep and looked down the hallway and
Speaker 5: started growling, just like it's never good, like this low growl.
Speaker 5: And that's when just I was like and then I
Speaker 5: got that feeling of dread again, and I was like,
Speaker 5: oh no, And that's when the doorknobs started jiggling. I
Speaker 5: grabbed the dog, jump off the couch once again. I
Speaker 5: don't think I touched any of the stairs, ran up
Speaker 5: the stairs and woke up my family. They came down.
Speaker 5: Nobody in the garage nothing.
Speaker 1: So at this point, are they like, girl, what is
Speaker 1: going on with you? Or do they also have experiences?
Speaker 5: So I think they were probably that And then my stepdad.
Speaker 5: I mean, I was a creative kid, let's be here.
Speaker 5: But my stepdad, actually he loved to bake. And he
Speaker 5: was in the kitchen one night baking I don't know
Speaker 5: what brownie is or something fabulous. And he was in
Speaker 5: there and he was baking, and we had a double
Speaker 5: stove where you had the bottom stove and the top stove,
Speaker 5: you know, and you could see and it was like
Speaker 5: black glass, so you could see definitely a reflection of
Speaker 5: the kitchen behind you. And so he was pulling the
Speaker 5: bies or cookies or whatever he was baking out of
Speaker 5: the bottom stove and putting it on the top of
Speaker 5: the range so that could cool. And he looked into
Speaker 5: the top part of the stove and he could see
Speaker 5: a woman standing behind him in the reflection over his shoulder,
Speaker 5: and she seemed to be looking at him approvingly, like
Speaker 5: she liked what he was baking. And he said she
Speaker 5: was an older woman with her hair pulled back, so
Speaker 5: he did see that. So that was very validating though,
Speaker 5: because but I still think that that was not the
Speaker 5: energy that we I think we had a couple things
Speaker 5: in that house, and I don't think the stuff that
Speaker 5: I was experiencing was friendly at all. Oh my god,
Speaker 5: this is really scary.
Speaker 1: What do you think, like two or three other entities
Speaker 1: or whatever, or do you think it was all the
Speaker 1: same thing that looked different ways or what?
Speaker 2: Excuse me?
Speaker 5: Either I think we had more than one or I
Speaker 5: think the one messed with everybody. I think maybe it
Speaker 5: could maybe he could take different shapes, or maybe it
Speaker 5: was maybe maybe it was an older woman that didn't
Speaker 5: want us the house, uh or I don't know. I
Speaker 5: wish I now that I have the knowledge to go
Speaker 5: back and maybe investigate that more. I wish I did,
Speaker 5: but I could have back then, but I have no idea.
Speaker 5: It was just awful. And then eventually we did move,
Speaker 5: and this my mom was so weird. She moved us
Speaker 5: into the house literally in the street behind that house.
Speaker 5: So the new house we had you could see the
Speaker 5: back of the old haunted house. Like so if you sat,
Speaker 5: we had a porch swing and we could sit on
Speaker 5: the patio and you could see the back part of
Speaker 5: the old house. And one time my friend and I
Speaker 5: and this was when I was in high school, we
Speaker 5: were sitting on the front porch, my best friend in
Speaker 5: high school, and we were looking We're sitting on that
Speaker 5: little swing and we were looking at the back of
Speaker 5: the old house and it was bacon At that point.
Speaker 5: No one lived there, and there was no curtains on
Speaker 5: the windows or anything. It was absolutely empty and we
Speaker 5: were it was like twilight and the sun was going down,
Speaker 5: and then it was down all complete. We were watching
Speaker 5: the sunset and as it was dark, we were looking
Speaker 5: at the top floor, which used to be my mom's
Speaker 5: room and my little brother's room in the back of
Speaker 5: the house. The two windows were next to each other,
Speaker 5: and we literally watched something go from one room across
Speaker 5: the window to the next, just like it floated through
Speaker 5: and it was lit. And the weirdest thing is there
Speaker 5: was a wall between those two rooms, so it just
Speaker 5: floated across one and then the other. And there was
Speaker 5: no exterior light. There was no street light, there was
Speaker 5: no thing that was out there that would have been mistaken.
Speaker 5: This was definitely coming from the inside of the house
Speaker 5: because we could see the walls lit on the inside
Speaker 5: of the house from the interior lighting from whatever that
Speaker 5: was that was emitting that light.
Speaker 1: Did you ever talk to the people that moved in there.
Speaker 5: So here's the thing. I had a friend that lived
Speaker 5: across the street. She was around my age, a little younger,
Speaker 5: and I went back over there, and there was a
Speaker 5: family that eventually did move into that house and they
Speaker 5: I moved very quickly because I asked the neighbor and
Speaker 5: she was like, so there were people that lived in
Speaker 5: this house after you guys, and they did not live
Speaker 5: here very long. They actually moved because they said it
Speaker 5: was too haunted for them to live there. And when
Speaker 5: I went back to visit, the grass was dead just
Speaker 5: at the property line.
Speaker 1: So, oh my god. I know, it's.
Speaker 5: Super weird because it shared because their townhouses, they're kind
Speaker 5: of connected, so there's a big lawn for the two units.
Speaker 5: But the grass was dead just the property line for
Speaker 5: just that townhouse.
Speaker 1: You like just missed out on such an opportunity to like,
Speaker 1: you know, drive by on your bicycle and be like,
Speaker 1: you see the shadow person. You could be that person
Speaker 1: in the horror movie.
Speaker 5: I could have been that creepy little like that creepy
Speaker 5: young girl that stopped by. You know this house is.
Speaker 1: Haunted, you know, yes, exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I know, but no I don't. I don't think that
Speaker 5: house had very good luck after that. And my mom,
Speaker 5: she suffered from some mental illness and stuff. So there
Speaker 5: were some dark stuff that happened in the house. And
Speaker 5: I realized a lot of the concentrated awfulness happened when
Speaker 5: we were living there. So I think it really had
Speaker 5: took its toll or she conjured up. So I don't know,
Speaker 5: but I think it's definitely connected in some way.
Speaker 1: So once you've moved out of that house, have you
Speaker 1: had other experiences since then?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, I had lived in an apartment when I
Speaker 5: was pregnant with my son and my ex husband. I
Speaker 5: lived in this apartment and I just gave birth to
Speaker 5: my son, and even when I was pregnant, stuff was happening.
Speaker 5: He was very skeptical. He was not a believer at all.
Speaker 5: And one night I remember us laying in bed and
Speaker 5: we were in the bedroom and I was watching something
Speaker 5: on my computer or a movie or something like that,
Speaker 5: and he was sleeping dead sleep. And again we had
Speaker 5: this little we had a little black cat I had.
Speaker 5: Her name was Pie Wakat, and she would Pie would
Speaker 5: sit on the on the bed and she'd lay with
Speaker 5: me and real sweet cat. And one night again she
Speaker 5: perked up and she started looking at the ceiling in
Speaker 5: that room, and then my husband woke up and he
Speaker 5: looked in the same just didn't even know what the
Speaker 5: cat was doing at all. Woke up from a dead sleep,
Speaker 5: looked in that same area and then like shook his
Speaker 5: head weird, and I was like, what's going on? Are
Speaker 5: you okay? What is what's happening right now? And he
Speaker 5: was like, I just saw a black cloud or something
Speaker 5: forming in the on the like towards the ceiling, on
Speaker 5: the top of the part of the wall where the
Speaker 5: cat was looking. And he pointed to the same place
Speaker 5: where she was looking. And I said, oh, that's fun,
Speaker 5: and he was like, oh, it's probably a dream. He
Speaker 5: kind of shook it off. I'm like, I don't think so,
Speaker 5: I don't think. Oh no, that's not a dream. And
Speaker 5: of course he told everybody that it was a dream
Speaker 5: and that, you know, But then we had one of
Speaker 5: those dimmer switches in the kitchen where you have to
Speaker 5: push it and turn it to get it to turn on,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 5: That would just turn itself on and on and off
Speaker 5: by itself, and you literally had to physically turn it
Speaker 5: with your hand to get it to do that, and
Speaker 5: it would do it by itself, and he still wouldn't
Speaker 5: acknowledge that stuff was happening. And then my sister came
Speaker 5: to visit and help with the baby when he was newborn,
Speaker 5: and some stuff happened. My sister and I get together,
Speaker 5: stuff always happens. And she and I were sitting in
Speaker 5: the living room and I had just made this sort
Speaker 5: of three D mural of my son's name, Oliver, and
Speaker 5: I was painting little monkeys and stuff on his whole
Speaker 5: nursery was monkeys and stuff, and I hand pain and
Speaker 5: all this stuff, and the oh from Oliver jumped off
Speaker 5: the wall and rolled weirdly, just rolled weirdly on the carpet,
Speaker 5: mind you, out into the living room where my sister
Speaker 5: and I were sitting. And it was an oval. Oh
Speaker 5: it wasn't like a round oh, like it could gain momentum.
Speaker 5: Like it should not have been rolling that way at all.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was like a like a wood piece or something.
Speaker 1: It was like a paper mache. Oh okay, it was
Speaker 1: like kind of a square ish, oh, you know, like
Speaker 1: an ovalie. And when it it just knocked off the
Speaker 1: wall out of nowhere and came rolling out towards us,
Speaker 1: and we both kind of were just watching it and
Speaker 1: we both looked at each other like did you.
Speaker 5: Just see that? We're were it super weird? And then
Speaker 5: there was another time in that same apartment where she
Speaker 5: and I were sitting there with the baby was sitting
Speaker 5: in the living room watch TV. I don't remember, and
Speaker 5: Oliver's he had like a little baby seat. Oliver was
Speaker 5: super tiny when he was born. He was only four
Speaker 5: four pounds, a little tiny guy, and his baby seat
Speaker 5: just totally flew off the kitchen counter. I mean, this
Speaker 5: was a weighted seat. It was also one of those
Speaker 5: carrier and car seat things. It was like both, and
Speaker 5: it just flew off the kitchen counter and just almost
Speaker 5: hit my sister.
Speaker 1: And oh my god, dangerous.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, it was dangerous. It was weird that one.
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, so let's go back for a second. So
Speaker 1: you had already grown up in a haunted house, You
Speaker 1: had experiences, you believe in this stuff, and then you
Speaker 1: move into this place. Like I'm always so curious, like
Speaker 1: when does stuff start happening? When are you like, like
Speaker 1: did you ask the person before you moved in? Or
Speaker 1: like how did that? How did the story start?
Speaker 5: So interesting? The apartment I was actually it was like
Speaker 5: what they call, I guess a condo, but it's just
Speaker 5: it's an apartment. And I was renting it from a
Speaker 5: friend who owned it, and she never mentioned anything about
Speaker 5: any activity in that house at all. Nobody had mentioned anything,
Speaker 5: and it didn't happen for a while, and then when
Speaker 5: I got pregnant, stuff started to happen. And then when
Speaker 5: Oliver was born, stuff started to happen. So I'm wondering
Speaker 5: if I somehow linked to me having a baby. I
Speaker 5: don't know, but definite stuff does happen. Did happen there?
Speaker 1: Did that end from you moving? Or did it ever end?
Speaker 1: Like when you lived?
Speaker 5: It never ended. We did move, and the next house
Speaker 5: we lived in was haunted.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's you no no offense, but I know, I
Speaker 1: know you hard the common through line here, I know.
Speaker 5: Well. The funny thing is is the next house we
Speaker 5: lived in, we moved in, and my dad moved in
Speaker 5: with us as well, and then my mom passed away. Uh,
Speaker 5: and then my sister came to stay again, and then
Speaker 5: the house got more active. Even before my mom passed away,
Speaker 5: it was active. But again, when my sister and I
Speaker 5: get together, I think it's a thing. I think something's
Speaker 5: going on there, but they like she was living. It
Speaker 5: was a really big house. And this weird part about
Speaker 5: this house, it was it had the potential to be
Speaker 5: really beautiful, but it was kind of like run down
Speaker 5: and it was not updated. You could tell since like
Speaker 5: the late eighties and the nineties because there was still
Speaker 5: carpet in the bathroom, which I always thought was super weird.
Speaker 5: And we found out that the house I think was
Speaker 5: being used for adult cam camera business, webcam business.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, wait where was this in Vegas?
Speaker 5: Of course, of course, of course, yes. It was one
Speaker 5: of those older homes in the historic Alta area of Vegas.
Speaker 5: So it's a lot of these older mansion ye kind
Speaker 5: of homes. But this wasn't by any means of mansion.
Speaker 5: It was just it was we were just renting it
Speaker 5: for a while. And yeah, we lived there and like
Speaker 5: my sister would sleep in this in this area. First
Speaker 5: of all, it was infested with scorpions, we found out later,
Speaker 5: Oh god, which was horrifying. I've never in my life
Speaker 5: been so scared. Because I had my son was learning
Speaker 5: how to crawl. We couldn't even let him crawl on
Speaker 5: the floor. It was awful, Oh God. Which I also
Speaker 5: thought was super weird because I had not seen not
Speaker 5: one scorpion since I lived in Vegas, and then all
Speaker 5: of a sudden in this house. But whatever. And then
Speaker 5: my sister would sleep in the in the family this
Speaker 5: area that we made the family room, and she'd hear
Speaker 5: footsteps walking across the floor, like shuffling across the carpet
Speaker 5: right in front of her. Oh all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then there was this weird room off the kitchen,
Speaker 5: and we think it was like supposed to be originally
Speaker 5: a maid's quarters or a servants quarters kind of thing.
Speaker 5: But that room was darker, and I don't mean like lightwise,
Speaker 5: I just mean the feeling of darkness in that room
Speaker 5: way more than the rest of the house. Something bad
Speaker 5: was in that room, that's what we know.
Speaker 1: Do you think it was cam model ghosts?
Speaker 5: It probably was right, like someone wronged for not having
Speaker 5: not getting her tips or something. I don't know, but
Speaker 5: something was definitely not right in that room. Something bad
Speaker 5: hung out in there.
Speaker 1: So, having lived in so many haunted houses, are you
Speaker 1: comfortable around that stuff? I mean, it's a weird question.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, examply each each time is probably
Speaker 1: a different feeling or whatever. But how do you feel?
Speaker 1: Are you not as scared? Still scared? Where are you
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 5: So, just to be honest, I have been sort of
Speaker 5: practicing my own sort of spiritual path since i've been
Speaker 5: in my twenties. Probably need towards the witchcraft sort of stuff.
Speaker 5: That's just where I'm comfortable. Even though we're Jewish, I
Speaker 5: mean by ancestry and by culture. We're Jewish by blood,
Speaker 5: but I've always sort of been kind of a witchy Jew.
Speaker 5: I don't even know how to explain that otherwise, but
Speaker 5: I am comfortable with it. But I think it's subjective
Speaker 5: for me, So I'm okay with it if I know
Speaker 5: that everybody's cool, you know, and I do believe that
Speaker 5: things sort of pass through. I do believe that we
Speaker 5: have activity a little bit everywhere. There's no way that
Speaker 5: just one space is haunted. In my mind, I think
Speaker 5: that sometimes we have, you know, areas where people will
Speaker 5: pass through, or you know, there's there's sort of more
Speaker 5: traffic than other places. It's not necessarily like a exclusive haunting.
Speaker 5: But for me, I'm fine if you're fine. Now. I
Speaker 5: also know that if I feel like it's not my
Speaker 5: turn to be in a space. That's what my sister
Speaker 5: and I call it. It's not my turn where I
Speaker 5: just go, Okay, you have this space right now and
Speaker 5: I'll come back later kind of thing. Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: and so you do what you got to do in
Speaker 5: this space and I'll come back when you're done, when
Speaker 5: this space feels better for me to be in. So
Speaker 5: I do that now.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, well, oh that's interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you do your thing and I'll come back after
Speaker 5: you're done.
Speaker 1: Got it. But you're not like, maybe I'm going to
Speaker 1: stick around and see what you're doing, and maybe I
Speaker 1: can get a little maybe I can get another story
Speaker 1: for ghost it in the future.
Speaker 5: You know, I am not opposed to that. I do
Speaker 5: have ghost hunting equipment. I am super down for all
Speaker 5: of that. I love that. I love ghost activity, I
Speaker 5: love paranormal investigations. I do love all of that as well.
Speaker 5: But if it happens organically, I think it's so much
Speaker 5: more a rewarding experience or it just I don't know
Speaker 5: when it feels organic, as opposed to going and really
Speaker 5: trying to make it happen, even though that's fun too.
Speaker 5: I think when it happens sort of organically in your
Speaker 5: own space. That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have like a general question that's like kind
Speaker 1: of a ridiculous question, but you know, I talk about
Speaker 1: how I think that in Hollywood there's like certain types
Speaker 1: of ghosts that you see a lot of and there's
Speaker 1: reasons for them being ghosts. Do you have you noticed
Speaker 1: that about Vegas, like a type of ghost store anything
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know that in Hollywood because I'm originally
Speaker 5: from West Hollywood. I know that we have that Hollywood
Speaker 5: ghost Vegas, I'm not as sure. I think that we
Speaker 5: have so much different. There's such a transient culture here,
Speaker 5: and I think that so many different kinds of people
Speaker 5: have come in and out of the city and into
Speaker 5: these structures and on this land. I think it's really
Speaker 5: hard to pinpoint for sure. I think it's like that
Speaker 5: sort of patchwork quilt paranormal activity, which is kind of
Speaker 5: cool when you think about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. And I mean if you go
Speaker 1: along with the idea of people's energy, you know, coming
Speaker 1: like people come into that space, like they come to
Speaker 1: the whole city with such a weird energy of just
Speaker 1: like I'm on vacation, I can do whatever I want
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's like that, and then also so
Speaker 1: much darkness and so much like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: just lost all my money or whatever happened. The Sin
Speaker 1: City vibe, I'm sure, attracts so much energy from all
Speaker 1: over the world. And yeah, it's probably a real hotbed
Speaker 1: for paranormal activity.
Speaker 5: Oh for sure. And I mean even before all that
Speaker 5: you had, like the whole mob history and all that
Speaker 5: and that happened out here. I mean, if ever, if
Speaker 5: all the dead bodies in Las Vegas stood up, I
Speaker 5: think we would be overrun with people. I think. I
Speaker 5: don't think it could be any room to walk, That's
Speaker 5: what I think.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is like the scariest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever heard somebody say in my entire life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did, I won no, But I do. I
Speaker 5: think that. I think that there's a lot of a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff out here, because I mean, remember we
Speaker 5: were so close to Los Angeles and southern California and
Speaker 5: all this vast desert. Who knows what people came out here?
Speaker 1: Who who knows? Yeah, Well, Becky, thank you so much for.
Speaker 5: My pleasure, Thank you for having me on. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Hello, Rachel Colin is from the Big Apple, New York City.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're here. I saw your email
Speaker 1: and it looks like you got some stories for us.
Speaker 1: Where do we start, God, there's so many.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can start at the beginning. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I the first house that I ever lived
Speaker 2: in was completely haunted.
Speaker 1: Where in so in the.
Speaker 2: Suburbs of Philly. I grew up in an area that
Speaker 2: was super super super historical, Like the closest cemetery to
Speaker 2: my house had graves with people who were born in
Speaker 2: like the sixteen hundred. It's like, oh my god, or
Speaker 2: old school colonial right on the Delaware River too. Actually,
Speaker 2: as a reference point, I grew up right next to
Speaker 2: a town called Washington's Crossing, which is quite literally where
Speaker 2: like George Washington crossed the Delaware. Yeah, so really old,
Speaker 2: really spooky and as you can imagine, maybe some you know,
Speaker 2: residual energy there from some colonization and some not so
Speaker 2: good stuff. So the the house that I first lived in,
Speaker 2: my parents actually bought the lot, so it hadn't even
Speaker 2: been built yet when they bought it, and when my
Speaker 2: mother was pregnant with me and my brother. I'm a twin,
Speaker 2: by the way, but that does that does play a
Speaker 2: part in the spook. But anyway, so it was just,
Speaker 2: you know, was leveled woods, so lord knows what was
Speaker 2: even in that area, and they bought the plot and
Speaker 2: then it just was built into like this big, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of cookie cutter subdivision. And the earliest memory that
Speaker 2: I have in that house, I think I was about
Speaker 2: two years old and shared a room with my brother
Speaker 2: and I would wake up, you know, nightly, and I
Speaker 2: would hear this, you know, deep male voice outside of
Speaker 2: my bedroom door. And it was never speaking a language
Speaker 2: that I could understand, but it would and it was
Speaker 2: never threatening. It was just this kind of like low,
Speaker 2: steady vocalization. I have no idea what they were saying.
Speaker 2: I don't I but still to this day I can
Speaker 2: kind of hear it, and to the point where I
Speaker 2: remember to having some of my first memories of nightmares
Speaker 2: were about that voice. So while it never felt like
Speaker 2: it was going to hurt me, it still scared me.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, so super spooky. That happened all the time,
Speaker 2: super regular basis. I lived in that house from when
Speaker 2: I was born until I was I think just about seven,
Speaker 2: and I would say that that happened from you know,
Speaker 2: my earliest memories of being a toddler until I was
Speaker 2: maybe about four or five, and I just got really
Speaker 2: used to it. It was all I knew, which is
Speaker 2: really kind of messed up looking back. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm just so used to the ghost compare. Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Did you ever say anything to your parents?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: And I think I was just I was so young
Speaker 2: that even if I had said anything, I'm sure that
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, you know, kids.
Speaker 1: Imagine, oh so cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's because it is so easily explainable when
Speaker 2: you have a two or three year old saying, oh,
Speaker 2: there's a monster outside my room. Like, of course, you're,
Speaker 2: as a parent, gonna choose to believe that there's no monster.
Speaker 1: That's why I will not be a parent. It's one
Speaker 1: of the many reasons I won't be a parent, because
Speaker 1: if they said that to me. Yeah, if a child
Speaker 1: said there's a monster in my room, I'd be like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: well we're moving.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So that went on, and there were times
Speaker 2: that I remember waking up and I have maybe experienced
Speaker 2: sleep paralysis once or twice in my life. It was
Speaker 2: never anything that was really scary. I just remember waking
Speaker 2: up and not being able to move, So I can
Speaker 2: I think I can say that this was not that
Speaker 2: I would wake up in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: and I would look up and it would feel as
Speaker 2: if the room was spinning. And then when I was
Speaker 2: about four, my younger brother was born, and my twin
Speaker 2: and I moved up to kind of like a lofted space,
Speaker 2: kind of a mix between like an office and an
Speaker 2: attic in the house, and that was when the energy
Speaker 2: went from scary but benign to absolutely malevolent. I know
Speaker 2: there was one corner of the room that just like
Speaker 2: never ever ever got light, and there were skylights. We
Speaker 2: were on the top floor, there were skylights. The rest
Speaker 2: of the room would be like flooded with light, and
Speaker 2: that corner was perpetually dark. So my brother and I,
Speaker 2: still being you know, really young kids, just like avoided
Speaker 2: that corner like the plague, and we would have synced
Speaker 2: up nightmares in that room. One I distinctly remember being
Speaker 2: when we both woke up the same time. It was
Speaker 2: about four o'clock in the morning, and we both looked
Speaker 2: at each other and said, did you feel the hands?
Speaker 2: Did you feel the hands? And we had both had
Speaker 2: dreams that had a pair of you know, disembodied hands
Speaker 2: was grabbing us and shaking us awake. No, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty pretty nasty. So that was that I remember was
Speaker 2: when was when we started becoming afraid of the room,
Speaker 2: and eventually just kind of, you know, as little kids do.
Speaker 2: We were like, it's okay, like we're just gonna play pretend,
Speaker 2: or we're gonna you know, make forts and keep ourselves
Speaker 2: safe and all of that. And the activity definitely subsided
Speaker 2: as we got a little bit older, but we did
Speaker 2: both have really, really really awful dreams in that room.
Speaker 2: We would always have dreams that there were you know,
Speaker 2: like hooded figures looking down at us from the skylights,
Speaker 2: and we had no reference point for hooded figures being
Speaker 2: you know, five year olds seen anything like that before,
Speaker 2: so we would see we would have dreams of things
Speaker 2: like that. I would have dreams where there were like
Speaker 2: anatomical like dissected body parts on the walls, things that
Speaker 2: I had never seen before, and only it would only
Speaker 2: happen in that room if I fell asleep, you know,
Speaker 2: down on the couch or if I know, slept in
Speaker 2: my parents' room. It would never happen. It was only
Speaker 2: that room, and I just to this day, the only
Speaker 2: explanation that I could possibly have for it is something paranormal. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it just you know, continued, and there was always
Speaker 2: just something in that house. And then we moved when
Speaker 2: I was six or seven, within the same neighbor within
Speaker 2: the same neighborhood, and the first night in that new house,
Speaker 2: nothing happened. And that was the first time where I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that was not normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not us, it's that house. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Houses aren't supposed to have that feeling. And I was again,
Speaker 2: like seven years old, and I distinctly remember sitting up
Speaker 2: in bed in the middle of the night and thinking
Speaker 2: to myself, I'm not scared right now. And it was
Speaker 2: really It's something that we didn't talk about for years
Speaker 2: until I was maybe like sixteen, and we were I've
Speaker 2: always been I've always watched, you know, every possible ghost
Speaker 2: hunting show, and I'm really the only person in my
Speaker 2: family who's like outwardly really interested in the supernatural, and
Speaker 2: so my skeptic parents definitely have given me a lot
Speaker 2: of shit about that over the years. So we were
Speaker 2: sitting around the dinner table and I was going on
Speaker 2: about either an episode of ghost Hunters or celebrity ghost
Speaker 2: stories or something, and my brother, my twin, perks up
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, well, you know what, wasn't our
Speaker 2: old house haunted? And the entire table went silent. And
Speaker 2: my mom, who had never said anything about it, she goes, oh,
Speaker 2: that was absolutely haunted. There was a male energy there
Speaker 2: and he was watching me all the time. Oh no, yeah,
Speaker 2: so pretty pretty affirming in that moment. And it's funny totally.
Speaker 2: My dad, who's the biggest skeptic, he was just like okay,
Speaker 2: and then he just kept eating his dinner and the
Speaker 2: rest of us like, wait, this is insane. And we
Speaker 2: were all we were all able to like corroperate everybody's
Speaker 2: stories and we all felt the same things and we
Speaker 2: heard the same things, and it was super validating also
Speaker 2: like very scary and mildly triggering, but it really affirmed
Speaker 2: that there was something there. And oh yeah, and that
Speaker 2: house goes on the market every couple of years. You know,
Speaker 2: my parents still live in that neighborhood, and every once
Speaker 2: in a while when I'm visiting, all drive by and
Speaker 2: nine times out of ten. I feel like there's a
Speaker 2: first sale sign outside the door. It's always on the market.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well, what about the La story?
Speaker 2: So that one was the one? This one actually really
Speaker 2: scared me shitless in a really big way. I didn't
Speaker 2: tell anybody about it for at least a year after
Speaker 2: it happened. I was this was like five years ago.
Speaker 2: I was in LA. I was visiting friends, and I
Speaker 2: also I went to school for theater to showcase out there,
Speaker 2: and we were there for showcase, and I extended my
Speaker 2: trip so that I could see some friends, and I
Speaker 2: was staying at my friend's house. And it was this
Speaker 2: like probably built in the twenties duplex, and I think
Speaker 2: it was in It was in near California Donuts, that's
Speaker 2: all I remember. I think it was near your Korea town.
Speaker 2: But I don't know La very well. Sure, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: But it was the weirdest experience because I, you know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't not to knock LA in any way, but
Speaker 2: I knew that when I was graduating, I had no
Speaker 2: interest in being there, and and so I was kind
Speaker 2: of dreading the showcase. But I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: it's fine, I get to like be in the sun,
Speaker 2: and you know, go to the beach and eat a
Speaker 2: bunch of good food. I'll be fine. And I get off.
Speaker 2: I stepped off the plane and I was like, god,
Speaker 2: I just feel so weird. I just felt this like
Speaker 2: dread and this like awful feeling, and I'm I don't know.
Speaker 2: I consider myself to be mildly intuitive, but I also
Speaker 2: think that I'm a lot of that has to do
Speaker 2: with like high anxiety, So I think it's for me.
Speaker 2: I confuse intuition and like my anxiety a lot of
Speaker 2: the time. But I just felt this like really just
Speaker 2: this feeling of like impending doom. This really just this
Speaker 2: wave of dread, and I couldn't shake it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, you're just tired from traveling. You're fine, You're fine,
Speaker 2: You're fine. Just move on with your life. You're fine. So,
Speaker 2: you know, I get in a car and get dropped
Speaker 2: off at my friend's house and the feeling kind of
Speaker 2: just intensifies, and I step into the house and immediately
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is why I feel bad. It was
Speaker 2: just the energy in there was super heavy. I felt
Speaker 2: like I was walking through like a swamp. It was
Speaker 2: just really thick and awful. And again I tried to
Speaker 2: just explain it away because I was like, well, my
Speaker 2: friends lived here for years, and she's fine and probably
Speaker 2: just tired and anxious and nervous, and you know, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm just making I'm making it up, and so, you know,
Speaker 2: I try to shake it off and have a couple
Speaker 2: of drinks with my friends, and you know, we go
Speaker 2: about our business. And the first night we go to sleep,
Speaker 2: and a couple of their friends had been staying there too,
Speaker 2: so we were all kind of just like sprawled out
Speaker 2: on air mattresses in the living room. And the first night,
Speaker 2: I wake up in the middle of the night, maybe
Speaker 2: three or four o'clock in the morning, and I hear
Speaker 2: this like low chant, and I think I said this
Speaker 2: in my email. The only thing I can like in
Speaker 2: it too, is that like weird operatic singing in the
Speaker 2: beginning of Crimeing a River by Justin dinper Lake, which
Speaker 2: is like, oh my god, it's like a super silly comparison,
Speaker 2: but that's the only thing I can compare it to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like Gregorian chant or something exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was just it was the sound of
Speaker 2: that plus the sound of rushing water and like like
Speaker 2: almost the sound of wretching, like someone was like trying
Speaker 2: to vomit or something. And my first thought was someone
Speaker 2: outside had a rough night and they are dealing with
Speaker 2: it accordingly by Welcome to Right. I was like, I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, there are lots of crazy people
Speaker 2: in LA. It could be anybody. It could be a
Speaker 2: real person. I don't know. And I then I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe it's you know, the people who live below. Maybe
Speaker 2: they're maybe someone's up and this is truly I went
Speaker 2: as far as to try to explain as someone's awake
Speaker 2: and they're singing in the shower and they swallowed some
Speaker 2: water or something, and I look at my phone and
Speaker 2: it's like four o'clock in the morning. I'm like, no
Speaker 2: one's awake right now except for me. And it just
Speaker 2: kept going and it kept going and it kept going
Speaker 2: and terrified me. I couldn't explain it, and I couldn't
Speaker 2: figure out where it was coming from. At first, I
Speaker 2: thought it was coming from outside because the window was open,
Speaker 2: but it just kind of felt like it was in
Speaker 2: the walls. And so I pulled out my computer and
Speaker 2: my headphones and I put on like episodes of Drag
Speaker 2: Race or something, and and just tried to just tried
Speaker 2: to watch something that would completely take my mind off
Speaker 2: of it, and eventually I fell back asleep. And so
Speaker 2: the next morning I wake up and I am really shaken,
Speaker 2: and I look at both of my friends who were
Speaker 2: sleeping in the same room as me, and I said, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, did you hear this last night? I was
Speaker 2: super freaked out, and they're like, no, we didn't hear anything,
Speaker 2: so weird, and I was like, okay. So that day
Speaker 2: was the day of our showcase, so super busy, super exhausted.
Speaker 2: We get home, I'd pass out and nothing happens. And
Speaker 2: then I was there for like five more nights, and
Speaker 2: every single night it happened, and with you know, increasing intensity,
Speaker 2: and it was just it just felt so icky. It
Speaker 2: felt so bad, and nobody else was experiencing it. I
Speaker 2: asked the people. There were three people who lived in
Speaker 2: that house. I asked if they had heard anything. They
Speaker 2: hadn't heard anything, and it was just me hearing this,
Speaker 2: and I was just really fucking wigged out. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Am I allowed to curse on this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course, okay.
Speaker 2: I was just really wigged out and it just felt
Speaker 2: really bad. And then the last day of the trip,
Speaker 2: I was exhausted because I wasn't sleeping, and everybody was like,
Speaker 2: we're going to Malibu, do you want to come? And
Speaker 2: I was like, I had have to catch a flight
Speaker 2: in like six hours and need to pack, and you'd shower,
Speaker 2: like I'm just going to stay here, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like justin Timberlake's backup vocals have been keeping me
Speaker 1: up all night, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't know what I should have just
Speaker 2: I should have just gone to Malibu. I don't know
Speaker 2: what made me think that I would just be totally
Speaker 2: fine being in this house alone all day, but I
Speaker 2: mean I was. I didn't have a car. I didn't
Speaker 2: It's not like it's not like I could like go anywhere.
Speaker 2: Was everything was so spread out and I didn't know
Speaker 2: the area. So I was just stuck in this house
Speaker 2: all day. And it happened again, just like during the day,
Speaker 2: and I heard it and I tried to figure out
Speaker 2: where it was coming from, and again I couldn't figure
Speaker 2: it out. And I looked in the driveway behind the
Speaker 2: house and the neighbors weren't home, and I sat out
Speaker 2: on like the stoop for the rest of the day
Speaker 2: because I was so terrified, and to this day, I
Speaker 2: still don't have an explanation for that. But I got
Speaker 2: back to Ohio where I was, you know, living at
Speaker 2: the time, and I slept with the lights on for
Speaker 2: like four weeks because I was just so afraid, and
Speaker 2: I didn't tell anybody about it. I didn't I was
Speaker 2: just I was so freaked out by this experience that
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe if I don't say anything, maybe
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what I was thinking,
Speaker 2: but I was like, maybe it'll just go away from
Speaker 2: my memory. Like I just I was just so freaked
Speaker 2: out by it. And then a couple of weeks after that,
Speaker 2: my friend who lived in that house texted me and
Speaker 2: the other two people who were staying with her at
Speaker 2: the time, and she was like, hey, super weird question.
Speaker 2: We just found a bag of like a dark brown powder.
Speaker 2: Did that belong to any of you guys? All of
Speaker 2: us were like, no, that doesn't belong to us. They're like, weird,
Speaker 2: it just like turned up in our kitchen. We have
Speaker 2: no idea where it came from. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if that was related. I don't know. There were a
Speaker 2: lot of people in and out of that house like
Speaker 2: at all times, you know, three roommates with three sets
Speaker 2: of friends, like going in and out auditioning places like
Speaker 2: there was just like a lot of foot traffic, so
Speaker 2: it could have been anything. But after I got that text,
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if this is related,
Speaker 2: but I'm done. I never want to go back there
Speaker 2: ever again.
Speaker 1: And once you left and went back to Ohio, you
Speaker 1: didn't have that experience again. It was like specifically that house.
Speaker 2: It was specifically that house, and ever since then, I've
Speaker 2: been super protective of my energy anytime that, you know,
Speaker 2: I like, I have a friend who's a psychic and
Speaker 2: she's like recently coming into her abilities, and whenever I'm
Speaker 2: around her, I just like shut off my energy because
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want anybody to take any of
Speaker 2: my energy. I don't want anyone to tap into this,
Speaker 2: like which makes me sound i know, like insane. But
Speaker 2: it was just such a draining experience. Whatever it was,
Speaker 2: it just like exhausted me for a week and it
Speaker 2: terrified me, and like I just that was the scariest
Speaker 2: thing that has ever happened to me.
Speaker 1: Easily, Oh, I've been ghosted too. Hello Becky with a
Speaker 1: why from Toronto. How are you hi?
Speaker 2: Ros?
Speaker 4: I am thrilled to be here. How are you?
Speaker 1: I am so good. I you're the second Becky that
Speaker 1: I have on this listener episode. I Becky with a why,
Speaker 1: Becky with an ie. So that's why I called you
Speaker 1: Becky with a why, Becky with a why. Okay, it
Speaker 1: sounds like you've been all over the place because I
Speaker 1: was reading your email and I'm like, okay, Becky is international.
Speaker 1: Becky has traveled the world seeing ghosts. Can you tell
Speaker 1: me about your stories?
Speaker 4: Sure? So I grew up in Scotland, as you may
Speaker 4: be able to tell, but actually my first ghost experience
Speaker 4: was when I was on holiday in France. So like
Speaker 4: Scotland is kind of known. If you say Scotland you
Speaker 4: think of like castles, and I grew up in a
Speaker 4: small village close to a castle where you know it
Speaker 4: was supposed to be haunted. I never had an experience there,
Speaker 4: but some people have. My first encounter with a ghost
Speaker 4: or something kind of otherworldly was yeah, in France. It
Speaker 4: was in a I guess it was called like a
Speaker 4: holiday home. It was an old converted farmhouse and I
Speaker 4: was on a holiday with my parents as a teenager,
Speaker 4: which you know that's not always the most fun. But
Speaker 4: we were in this farmhouse in this small village, and
Speaker 4: that was the first time I had an encounter where
Speaker 4: I didn't feel scared. I knew something was there. It
Speaker 4: was a feeling, but I didn't feel like scared by it,
Speaker 4: and we, like we all had experiences, my mom, my dad,
Speaker 4: and I, and there was definitely something, you know, objectively there.
Speaker 4: So one of the most so one of the most
Speaker 4: prominent things was I remember the morning that we left.
Speaker 4: I heard I was like it was early in the morning,
Speaker 4: like six am, and I could hear outside my room
Speaker 4: there was like furniture being moved around, like screeping across
Speaker 4: the floor. It was like a tiled floor. And I
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, maybe that's my mom and dad, like,
Speaker 4: you know, up early moving stuff for some reason. I
Speaker 4: don't know why. And eventually I was so sick of it.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm trying to sleep. So this scraping
Speaker 4: was going on really loud, and I got up opened
Speaker 4: the door and there was nothing there and it stopped.
Speaker 4: And I went through to my parents' room and they
Speaker 4: were asleep, and yeah, there was just no evidence of anything.
Speaker 4: So that's very prominent in my mind. And my mum
Speaker 4: also had experiences with hearing footsteps, that's the other kind
Speaker 4: of main thing. And there was just a feeling, you know,
Speaker 4: it was really old. I don't know how old, maybe
Speaker 4: seventeen hundreds, So God has to be some spooks there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in Scotland, what's the stories of this castle?
Speaker 4: Well, this castle, it's actually it's a tower. It's called
Speaker 4: Greenow Tower, and it is known for it's sadly a
Speaker 4: kind of a suicide spot, but it's also known for
Speaker 4: having a green lady of course green. But yeah, there
Speaker 4: are a few ladies like you get, like pink ladies
Speaker 4: and white ladies roaming these like old ruins around the country.
Speaker 4: But yeah, this one had a green lady. And I'm
Speaker 4: not sure of her story or anything like that. She
Speaker 4: was just a presence there. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Still there, the green Lady of Scotland. Amazing. So tell
Speaker 1: me another one.
Speaker 4: So another one I have is from actually from here
Speaker 4: in Toronto a bit more recent. So I moved here
Speaker 4: a few years ago and in getting to know the city,
Speaker 4: I just wanted to, you know, like find out some
Speaker 4: historical stuff. And when I visit places, I do like
Speaker 4: to find out about, like you know, the spooky history.
Speaker 4: And one of the spookiest places here is a place
Speaker 4: called Fort York, which is a millet tree like fortification.
Speaker 4: I think it was involved in the War of eighteen twelve,
Speaker 4: which was between the Americans and the Brits. So yes,
Speaker 4: spooky kind of place. And I had a friend that
Speaker 4: worked there, and some of the experiences of employees there
Speaker 4: they would hear like bangs in the night, or they
Speaker 4: would like see people through a window in one of
Speaker 4: the like in one of the sheds, things like that.
Speaker 4: And I was on a it was a ghost tour,
Speaker 4: well it was called a I think it was a
Speaker 4: dark or a lantern tour or something like that. And
Speaker 4: we were in one of the blockhouses and we're having
Speaker 4: this tour and the tour guides were telling us about
Speaker 4: the house and how it was haunted and things that
Speaker 4: various employees had heard on site. And they were in
Speaker 4: the middle of telling this story, or someone had just
Speaker 4: finished a sentence and there was this huge bang. It
Speaker 4: was as if something had been thrown very fast or
Speaker 4: very violently again against the wall. It was yeah, it
Speaker 4: was like something really hard hitting the wall and it
Speaker 4: didn't sound improvised or recorded or anything like that, and
Speaker 4: everyone was spooked. There was just this silence afterwards of Okay,
Speaker 4: that was definitely a ghost or you know, some presence
Speaker 4: was playing with us. It was as if it had
Speaker 4: been listening and was like, okay, well now's my chance.
Speaker 1: This is my cue.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That was pretty scary, and like, I think it's
Speaker 4: a bit unusual to experience these things in a group
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you got your money's worth. I
Speaker 1: think about these tours all the time, and I bet
Speaker 1: on them and I enjoy them. But it's like, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's not super common to have something happen,
Speaker 1: so when it does, it's like, oh my god, what
Speaker 1: are absolutely hop on to yelp and spread the word? Hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to hear an EVP with me?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: I would love to.
Speaker 1: Okay, in time for EVP or ev PSE. So I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna assume that you know how this goes. But
Speaker 1: I go to YouTube, I find evp's Electronic Voice phenomenal
Speaker 1: and this one I found from somebody called Trinity Paranormal,
Speaker 1: and it's at a place called the Jefferson hotel. Now
Speaker 1: I could not figure out where. I didn't say exactly where,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like an EVP. It may and tell
Speaker 1: me what you think you hear here? Okay, okay. Obviously
Speaker 1: there's like lots of like fuzz and noise, but then
Speaker 1: faintly in the background you can hear a voice. Okay, here,
Speaker 1: we'll play again. Oh did you hear anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's very difficult to make it out. Is
Speaker 4: if they were saying like go go or yeah, oh wait.
Speaker 1: Let me play it again. It sounds like there's some
Speaker 1: emotion behind it. It sounds like it's like yelling something.
Speaker 4: It's kind of urgent, like a warning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, here's some options. One of these is
Speaker 1: what they believe it says. Is it A I'm in
Speaker 1: a cult? B are you cold? C I want to coke?
Speaker 1: Or d in a cone? Like you know when you
Speaker 1: go to McDonald's and it's like so rare that there
Speaker 1: are ice cream machine's working, but then it does, and
Speaker 1: then you order and they're like, do you want it
Speaker 1: in a cup?
Speaker 4: Go?
Speaker 1: And then I goes in a cone? Okay, with that knowledge,
Speaker 1: let me play it again.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, I love all of these options.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. All of these options
Speaker 1: sound exactly like what it says, in my opinion when
Speaker 1: we play it again in a cone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hearing in a cone. Yeah, it sounds so
Speaker 4: like desperate, like please, but also I like the idea
Speaker 4: of I'm in a cult, like I'm in a cult,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because again it sounds yeah, desperate, or it sounds
Speaker 1: like it wants to be heard. Well, they believe it
Speaker 1: says are you cold? Let me play it again?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I hear that as well.
Speaker 1: I can hear it well. But they also said that
Speaker 1: it was in response to one of the investigators saying
Speaker 1: out loud, I'm freezing. So that kind of makes it
Speaker 1: seem like it could be yeah, are you cold, or
Speaker 1: it could be like, are you freezing from eating ice cream?
Speaker 1: Because I want some? In an.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could have been both. And that was in
Speaker 4: where the Jefferson Hotel.
Speaker 1: It was in some Jefferson hotel. I don't know which
Speaker 1: Jefferson hotel, but a Jefferson hotel with a possibly cold ghost.
Speaker 2: Ye.
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