1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: What's that. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Bed. 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: It's spooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I said, hiros Dress, Hey boo, it's 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: me Roz. 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 4: How are you. 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm doing just fine. You know, I'm always doing 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: great when it's a listener episode. But I just recorded 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: an episode that you know, I hate to use this 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: word as much as I do, but a truly iconic episode. 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I talk to Andrea Parrin, who grew 12 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: up in the original house that inspired the first Conjuring movie. 13 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: We chatted and we chatted. She gave me like two 14 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: hours of her time. We had so much fun, but 15 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: also it was terrifying. It was just oh, it was 16 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: so great. What an amazing guest to have on the show. 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: And special shout out to Patrick Keller for hooking us up. 18 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Because Patrick who listens to the show and has a 19 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: great podcast called The Big Seance Podcast with Patrick Keller, 20 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: and we recently recorded and I'll be a guest on 21 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: that show soon, so go check it out. And Patrick, 22 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, knows Andrea and hooked us up and it 23 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: was It's definitely gonna be a two part episode starting 24 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: next week, so just look out for it. In the meantime, 25 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: go watch The Conjuring. And you know another reason why 26 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: it's so perfect, just because the latest Conjuring film, which 27 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: really has nothing to do with the first Conjuring, because 28 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, those movies are all based on the cases 29 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: of ad Lorraine Warren. But nonetheless, there's going to be 30 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: a Conjuring movie coming out I believe next week. I 31 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: think June fourth. Oh my god, it's ready June anyway, 32 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: so perfect timing for that conversation, so look out for that. 33 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: And before we get into the listener episode this month, 34 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: since it's all about the listeners, I did see pretty 35 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: interesting story in the Facebook group of course, called Ghosted 36 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: by rosdres Flees. This one comes from Robin Robin Wrights. 37 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: Here's what I remember growing up in a haunted house. 38 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: This all happened between the age of thirteen and sixteen. 39 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: I was living with my mom and two sisters, one 40 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: sister fourteen months older, the other nine years older. Oh wow. 41 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: At around puberty I started having what I learned later 42 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: to be sleep paralysis. But each episode was always different 43 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: and terrifying. 44 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 4: HM. 45 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: Much like this podcast. There was times where quote the 46 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: old Hag would climb on top of my chest in 47 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: the shape of a cat or witchy creature. Sometimes there 48 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: was a smaller boylike figure that I would see standing 49 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: in the doorway. And sometimes I wouldn't see or hallucinate anything, 50 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: but feel immense fear like something awful was about to happen. 51 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: There were a few times I was so scared it 52 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: was enough for me to fight my way out of 53 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the paralysis state. One night, I even floated above my 54 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: body and saw myself sleeping, got scared and went right 55 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: back into my body and didn't sleep the rest of 56 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the night. I grew to teach myself to sense when 57 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: I was about to have an episode, and I would 58 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: have to stay awake for the rest of the night, 59 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Otherwise if I fell asleep, I would slip right into 60 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: sleep paralysis. I could tell from buzzing feeling that I 61 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: had in my head. Very strange times only happened a 62 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: few times as an adult. Besides my own experiences, my 63 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: sister heard over two consecutive nights, someone walking back and 64 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: forth outside her bedroom door late at night. She thought 65 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: it was me, so she didn't think anything of it. 66 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: The second night, she shouted for me to go to bed, 67 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: and the footsteps stopped promptly outside her door. She went 68 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: to investigate, thinking it was me and no one was there. 69 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: She was so freaked out she came into my room 70 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: after and woke me up to tell me my mom 71 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: would also have variances, mainly via dreams. She dreamt a 72 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: little boy died where we lived, and she described him 73 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the way I saw him during one of my sleep 74 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: paralysis nights. One day, my sister and I were goofing 75 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: around playing some form of tag in the house. It 76 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: was a loop from the hallway to the living room, 77 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: then dining room, through the kitchen, and back to the hallway. 78 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: My sister was chasing after me and said she was 79 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: going to throw I think a spoon or something that 80 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: she was holding at me in a playful sibling way. 81 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: This went on for a few rounds around the loop. 82 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: Then something hit the back of my head in the 83 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: hallway and went flying past me behind the couch into 84 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: the living room. I yelled at her, and she came 85 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: out from the kitchen, nowhere near me, and was still 86 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: holding her item. I looked behind the couch and this 87 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: silver ring was still spinning. It wasn't a ring either 88 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: one of us had seen before and to this day 89 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: we don't know who threw the object at me. I'm 90 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: sure there's more, but this is all my memory holds. 91 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Love the show, Ras Robin from Ottawa, Ontario. Oh my god, 92 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: that is the kind of sleep proalysis story where it 93 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: starts to get real paranormal where it's like, you know, 94 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: more than one person kind of experiences what happens during 95 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: the sleep aaralysis. And also, I mean you told an 96 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: old Hag story and as an old Hag myself, I 97 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: feel very comforted being represented and the rest of the 98 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: old Hag community. Thank you. Robn okay on with this 99 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: month's listener episode. As always, if you want to be 100 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: on a listener episode, please send me an email at 101 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com with the subject 102 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 1: line listener episode and you know, just give me a 103 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: sentences about your paranormal stories and maybe we can work 104 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: something out. And we always have a little bit extra 105 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: for you. On Patreon and this week on my first 106 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: tier you can see the part two of how I 107 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: do my drag makeup? Finally given that to you, so 108 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: the very exclusive transformation of me putting on my makeup 109 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: on camera. You can see part one and two now 110 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: on patreon dot com slash rosdres Falise and on my 111 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: second tier this month, I have a little bit from 112 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: our second caller on this episode, Rachel. The two of 113 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: us are talking about a little bit of twin paranormal phenomena, 114 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: possibly some telepathy of sorts, and also a haunted theater 115 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: from Rachel's days of high school theater. So go check 116 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: that out Patreon dot com slash Ross jez Falz and 117 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: I say we go for it. On with the show 118 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: There's a Ghost in My House. Oh my god. I 119 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: am joined by Becky with an I from Las Vegas. Hi, Hi, 120 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: how are you? I am so good. You're a member 121 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: of the Facebook group. I feel like, didn't I just 122 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: read one of your stories on the show? 123 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 5: You did? And it's great because I can I got 124 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 5: more stories about that house that we lived in. 125 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, wait, let's hear it, like, okay, 126 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: so refresh us about the story. It tell us everything. 127 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: Okay. So the story that you read was one of 128 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 5: the initial one of the big deals that happened in 129 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 5: the house. We came home from dinner and I ran 130 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 5: inside because I had my new cassette tapes, because because 131 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 5: I'm an old lady, but I was a kid. I 132 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 5: was like, I don't know, twelve something, thirteen maybe at 133 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 5: the time, and my parents were getting my little brother 134 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 5: out of the car. He was still in his car seat, 135 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 5: and I came running in. They were in the garage. 136 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: I came running into the house, running up the stairs 137 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 5: to go play my new music, and I had something 138 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 5: just stopped me right in my tracks as I was 139 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 5: going up the stairs, like almost like a wall, but 140 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: obviously there was nothing there, just dread, just an absolute 141 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: feeling of dread and heaviness. And I look up and 142 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: as I look up the stairs, at the top of 143 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: the stairs, it kind of curbed into a landing, and 144 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 5: I could see the shadow cast of a very large 145 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 5: masculine figure on the opposite side coming towards me down 146 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: the landing in my direction. And that wouldn't have been 147 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 5: so bad if I didn't actually hear the footsteps of 148 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 5: that being or whatever it was, coming down the landing 149 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: in my direction. And I knew I didn't have a 150 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: lot of time because there's not a lot of space 151 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 5: between where he was and where I was. So I 152 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 5: heard the footsteps, heard the way of this thing on 153 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 5: the stairs coming down, flipped around. I don't think I 154 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 5: touched any stairs on the way back down, ran into 155 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 5: the garage, almost almost smashed my stepdad in the face 156 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 5: with the door when I when I flew the door open, 157 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 5: I told them that there was somebody in the house. 158 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 5: I like I said before in the story, I did 159 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 5: not think this was a ghost or an entity. I 160 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 5: was convinced this was a solid human intruder in our home. 161 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, A shadow that also can produce foot sounds. 162 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, this was. This thing had weight, It 163 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 5: was coming down the stairs. I heard every step and 164 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 5: it was horrifying. 165 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 166 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was no mistaking it. 167 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: By the time that happened. Did you have any reason 168 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: to believe that there could be a ghost in the 169 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: house or anything like that. 170 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 5: We had not been living in the house as far 171 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: as I recalled that long. At that point. We had 172 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 5: some little things happen here and there, like the TV 173 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 5: would go on and off by itself. We'd tell it 174 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 5: to stop and it would stop, and kind of change 175 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 5: channels on command and stuff, but nothing that we could 176 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 5: solidify or actually connect it to poltergeists behavior or any 177 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 5: kind of activity in that way. So no, I mean 178 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: not at that point, not something that was that extreme. 179 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: No, So after it happened, then, are you like, Okay, 180 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: we got more than just a ghost that likes to 181 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: flip the channels. 182 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 5: Yes, well at that point, this at this point, yes, 183 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: because when my stepdad ran in to do a little 184 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: investigating and we were in the car, he told us 185 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 5: to keep it running in case we had to bowld 186 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 5: because if there was somebody in the house, we didn't 187 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 5: know if they were armed or anything. We were This 188 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 5: was really terrifying. And he went in the house and 189 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 5: there was literally nobody there. He did a full sweep upstairs, downstairs, 190 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,119 Speaker 5: no windows open, no sign of entry anywhere, nothing was disturbed. 191 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 5: And that was even more confusing and scary. 192 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: So what else happened there? 193 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: So there was one We had a new puppy and 194 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 5: it was a little Sharpay puppy, and Sharpay's just they 195 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 5: just love to sleep. He's just a big sleeper. And 196 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 5: I was sitting on the couch downstairs. It was kind 197 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 5: of late at night and my family was upstairs sleeping, 198 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 5: so I was the only one awake in the house 199 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: and I was downstairs watching TV because back then I 200 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 5: would watch like the MTB in the middle of the night. 201 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 5: And Jake was the name of the dog, and he 202 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: was sleeping on my lap and he was snoring away. 203 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 5: And this dog would like sleep like a log. You 204 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 5: couldn't just wake him up easily. And he was sleeping 205 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 5: on my lap. We're all cozy watching videos. And down 206 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: the hall to my right from the couch I was 207 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 5: sitting on, it was kind of a long, dark hallway. 208 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 5: There was kind of a half bath in the laundry room, 209 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 5: and then it led to the garage door. And I 210 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: was sitting there and I could hear like noise coming 211 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 5: from the garage and it was the middle of the night, 212 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: this was past midnight, just like movement, I don't know, 213 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 5: like something somebody was in there. And then like I 214 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: I turned them TV down for a second and I 215 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 5: was like, what was that? And then it stopped. So 216 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 5: I was like, well, maybe it's just like the wind 217 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: outside or you know whatever, the house settling. Maybe I 218 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 5: don't know. 219 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: And then the. 220 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 5: Doorknob started jiggling violently, like jiggle, jiggle, jiggle, jiggle, like 221 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 5: someone was trying to actively get into the house from 222 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 5: the garage. And we always locked the garage door obviously 223 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 5: from the inside, and the only way you can get 224 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: in the garage is if you have a garage door opener. 225 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 5: If you're in the outside, there's no way to get 226 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: And I'd never heard the garage door open, and because 227 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: back this was like the late eighties, so when the 228 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 5: garage door opened, the whole house you could hear it. 229 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 5: You know, nothing, nothing, couldn't hear anything. It was just 230 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the doorknob. But right before that 231 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 5: I totally forgot. The dog perked his head up out 232 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: of a dead sleep and looked down the hallway and 233 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: started growling, just like it's never good, like this low growl. 234 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: And that's when just I was like and then I 235 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 5: got that feeling of dread again, and I was like, 236 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 5: oh no, And that's when the doorknobs started jiggling. I 237 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 5: grabbed the dog, jump off the couch once again. I 238 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 5: don't think I touched any of the stairs, ran up 239 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: the stairs and woke up my family. They came down. 240 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 5: Nobody in the garage nothing. 241 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: So at this point, are they like, girl, what is 242 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: going on with you? Or do they also have experiences? 243 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 5: So I think they were probably that And then my stepdad. 244 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I was a creative kid, let's be here. 245 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: But my stepdad, actually he loved to bake. And he 246 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 5: was in the kitchen one night baking I don't know 247 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 5: what brownie is or something fabulous. And he was in 248 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: there and he was baking, and we had a double 249 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: stove where you had the bottom stove and the top stove, 250 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 5: you know, and you could see and it was like 251 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 5: black glass, so you could see definitely a reflection of 252 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 5: the kitchen behind you. And so he was pulling the 253 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: bies or cookies or whatever he was baking out of 254 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: the bottom stove and putting it on the top of 255 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 5: the range so that could cool. And he looked into 256 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: the top part of the stove and he could see 257 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: a woman standing behind him in the reflection over his shoulder, 258 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 5: and she seemed to be looking at him approvingly, like 259 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 5: she liked what he was baking. And he said she 260 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: was an older woman with her hair pulled back, so 261 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: he did see that. So that was very validating though, 262 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 5: because but I still think that that was not the 263 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 5: energy that we I think we had a couple things 264 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 5: in that house, and I don't think the stuff that 265 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 5: I was experiencing was friendly at all. Oh my god, 266 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: this is really scary. 267 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: What do you think, like two or three other entities 268 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: or whatever, or do you think it was all the 269 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: same thing that looked different ways or what? 270 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: Excuse me? 271 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: Either I think we had more than one or I 272 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 5: think the one messed with everybody. I think maybe it 273 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: could maybe he could take different shapes, or maybe it 274 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 5: was maybe maybe it was an older woman that didn't 275 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 5: want us the house, uh or I don't know. I 276 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 5: wish I now that I have the knowledge to go 277 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: back and maybe investigate that more. I wish I did, 278 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 5: but I could have back then, but I have no idea. 279 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 5: It was just awful. And then eventually we did move, 280 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: and this my mom was so weird. She moved us 281 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 5: into the house literally in the street behind that house. 282 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 5: So the new house we had you could see the 283 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 5: back of the old haunted house. Like so if you sat, 284 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 5: we had a porch swing and we could sit on 285 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: the patio and you could see the back part of 286 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 5: the old house. And one time my friend and I 287 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: and this was when I was in high school, we 288 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 5: were sitting on the front porch, my best friend in 289 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: high school, and we were looking We're sitting on that 290 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 5: little swing and we were looking at the back of 291 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 5: the old house and it was bacon At that point. 292 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 5: No one lived there, and there was no curtains on 293 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 5: the windows or anything. It was absolutely empty and we 294 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: were it was like twilight and the sun was going down, 295 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: and then it was down all complete. We were watching 296 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: the sunset and as it was dark, we were looking 297 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 5: at the top floor, which used to be my mom's 298 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 5: room and my little brother's room in the back of 299 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 5: the house. The two windows were next to each other, 300 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 5: and we literally watched something go from one room across 301 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: the window to the next, just like it floated through 302 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 5: and it was lit. And the weirdest thing is there 303 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: was a wall between those two rooms, so it just 304 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 5: floated across one and then the other. And there was 305 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: no exterior light. There was no street light, there was 306 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: no thing that was out there that would have been mistaken. 307 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 5: This was definitely coming from the inside of the house 308 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 5: because we could see the walls lit on the inside 309 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 5: of the house from the interior lighting from whatever that 310 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 5: was that was emitting that light. 311 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Did you ever talk to the people that moved in there. 312 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 5: So here's the thing. I had a friend that lived 313 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: across the street. She was around my age, a little younger, 314 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 5: and I went back over there, and there was a 315 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 5: family that eventually did move into that house and they 316 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 5: I moved very quickly because I asked the neighbor and 317 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: she was like, so there were people that lived in 318 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: this house after you guys, and they did not live 319 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 5: here very long. They actually moved because they said it 320 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 5: was too haunted for them to live there. And when 321 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 5: I went back to visit, the grass was dead just 322 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: at the property line. 323 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: So, oh my god. I know, it's. 324 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 5: Super weird because it shared because their townhouses, they're kind 325 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 5: of connected, so there's a big lawn for the two units. 326 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 5: But the grass was dead just the property line for 327 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 5: just that townhouse. 328 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: You like just missed out on such an opportunity to like, 329 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: you know, drive by on your bicycle and be like, 330 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: you see the shadow person. You could be that person 331 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: in the horror movie. 332 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 5: I could have been that creepy little like that creepy 333 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: young girl that stopped by. You know this house is. 334 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Haunted, you know, yes, exactly, Yeah. 335 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 5: I know, but no I don't. I don't think that 336 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 5: house had very good luck after that. And my mom, 337 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 5: she suffered from some mental illness and stuff. So there 338 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 5: were some dark stuff that happened in the house. And 339 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: I realized a lot of the concentrated awfulness happened when 340 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 5: we were living there. So I think it really had 341 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 5: took its toll or she conjured up. So I don't know, 342 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 5: but I think it's definitely connected in some way. 343 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: So once you've moved out of that house, have you 344 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: had other experiences since then? 345 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, I had lived in an apartment when I 346 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 5: was pregnant with my son and my ex husband. I 347 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 5: lived in this apartment and I just gave birth to 348 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 5: my son, and even when I was pregnant, stuff was happening. 349 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 5: He was very skeptical. He was not a believer at all. 350 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 5: And one night I remember us laying in bed and 351 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: we were in the bedroom and I was watching something 352 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: on my computer or a movie or something like that, 353 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: and he was sleeping dead sleep. And again we had 354 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 5: this little we had a little black cat I had. 355 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: Her name was Pie Wakat, and she would Pie would 356 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 5: sit on the on the bed and she'd lay with 357 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: me and real sweet cat. And one night again she 358 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: perked up and she started looking at the ceiling in 359 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: that room, and then my husband woke up and he 360 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: looked in the same just didn't even know what the 361 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: cat was doing at all. Woke up from a dead sleep, 362 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 5: looked in that same area and then like shook his 363 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 5: head weird, and I was like, what's going on? Are 364 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: you okay? What is what's happening right now? And he 365 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 5: was like, I just saw a black cloud or something 366 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: forming in the on the like towards the ceiling, on 367 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: the top of the part of the wall where the 368 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 5: cat was looking. And he pointed to the same place 369 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 5: where she was looking. And I said, oh, that's fun, 370 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 5: and he was like, oh, it's probably a dream. He 371 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: kind of shook it off. I'm like, I don't think so, 372 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 5: I don't think. Oh no, that's not a dream. And 373 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: of course he told everybody that it was a dream 374 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 5: and that, you know, But then we had one of 375 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 5: those dimmer switches in the kitchen where you have to 376 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: push it and turn it to get it to turn on, 377 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 5: you know, I mean. 378 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and. 379 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 5: That would just turn itself on and on and off 380 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 5: by itself, and you literally had to physically turn it 381 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 5: with your hand to get it to do that, and 382 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 5: it would do it by itself, and he still wouldn't 383 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 5: acknowledge that stuff was happening. And then my sister came 384 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: to visit and help with the baby when he was newborn, 385 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: and some stuff happened. My sister and I get together, 386 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 5: stuff always happens. And she and I were sitting in 387 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 5: the living room and I had just made this sort 388 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 5: of three D mural of my son's name, Oliver, and 389 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 5: I was painting little monkeys and stuff on his whole 390 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: nursery was monkeys and stuff, and I hand pain and 391 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 5: all this stuff, and the oh from Oliver jumped off 392 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 5: the wall and rolled weirdly, just rolled weirdly on the carpet, 393 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 5: mind you, out into the living room where my sister 394 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 5: and I were sitting. And it was an oval. Oh 395 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: it wasn't like a round oh, like it could gain momentum. 396 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: Like it should not have been rolling that way at all. 397 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: Oh, it was like a like a wood piece or something. 398 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: It was like a paper mache. Oh okay, it was 399 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: like kind of a square ish, oh, you know, like 400 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: an ovalie. And when it it just knocked off the 401 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: wall out of nowhere and came rolling out towards us, 402 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: and we both kind of were just watching it and 403 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: we both looked at each other like did you. 404 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: Just see that? We're were it super weird? And then 405 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: there was another time in that same apartment where she 406 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 5: and I were sitting there with the baby was sitting 407 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: in the living room watch TV. I don't remember, and 408 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 5: Oliver's he had like a little baby seat. Oliver was 409 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 5: super tiny when he was born. He was only four 410 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 5: four pounds, a little tiny guy, and his baby seat 411 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 5: just totally flew off the kitchen counter. I mean, this 412 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 5: was a weighted seat. It was also one of those 413 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 5: carrier and car seat things. It was like both, and 414 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 5: it just flew off the kitchen counter and just almost 415 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: hit my sister. 416 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: And oh my god, dangerous. 417 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: Well yeah, it was dangerous. It was weird that one. 418 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: Wait, okay, so let's go back for a second. So 419 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: you had already grown up in a haunted house, You 420 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: had experiences, you believe in this stuff, and then you 421 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: move into this place. Like I'm always so curious, like 422 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: when does stuff start happening? When are you like, like 423 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: did you ask the person before you moved in? Or 424 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: like how did that? How did the story start? 425 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 5: So interesting? The apartment I was actually it was like 426 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: what they call, I guess a condo, but it's just 427 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 5: it's an apartment. And I was renting it from a 428 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: friend who owned it, and she never mentioned anything about 429 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: any activity in that house at all. Nobody had mentioned anything, 430 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 5: and it didn't happen for a while, and then when 431 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 5: I got pregnant, stuff started to happen. And then when 432 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 5: Oliver was born, stuff started to happen. So I'm wondering 433 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 5: if I somehow linked to me having a baby. I 434 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 5: don't know, but definite stuff does happen. Did happen there? 435 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: Did that end from you moving? Or did it ever end? 436 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Like when you lived? 437 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 5: It never ended. We did move, and the next house 438 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 5: we lived in was haunted. 439 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: Maybe it's you no no offense, but I know, I 440 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: know you hard the common through line here, I know. 441 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 5: Well. The funny thing is is the next house we 442 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 5: lived in, we moved in, and my dad moved in 443 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 5: with us as well, and then my mom passed away. Uh, 444 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 5: and then my sister came to stay again, and then 445 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: the house got more active. Even before my mom passed away, 446 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 5: it was active. But again, when my sister and I 447 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 5: get together, I think it's a thing. I think something's 448 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 5: going on there, but they like she was living. It 449 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 5: was a really big house. And this weird part about 450 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 5: this house, it was it had the potential to be 451 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: really beautiful, but it was kind of like run down 452 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 5: and it was not updated. You could tell since like 453 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: the late eighties and the nineties because there was still 454 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 5: carpet in the bathroom, which I always thought was super weird. 455 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: And we found out that the house I think was 456 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 5: being used for adult cam camera business, webcam business. 457 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, wait where was this in Vegas? 458 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 5: Of course, of course, of course, yes. It was one 459 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 5: of those older homes in the historic Alta area of Vegas. 460 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 5: So it's a lot of these older mansion ye kind 461 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 5: of homes. But this wasn't by any means of mansion. 462 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: It was just it was we were just renting it 463 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: for a while. And yeah, we lived there and like 464 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 5: my sister would sleep in this in this area. First 465 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 5: of all, it was infested with scorpions, we found out later, 466 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 5: Oh god, which was horrifying. I've never in my life 467 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 5: been so scared. Because I had my son was learning 468 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 5: how to crawl. We couldn't even let him crawl on 469 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 5: the floor. It was awful, Oh God. Which I also 470 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 5: thought was super weird because I had not seen not 471 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 5: one scorpion since I lived in Vegas, and then all 472 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 5: of a sudden in this house. But whatever. And then 473 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 5: my sister would sleep in the in the family this 474 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: area that we made the family room, and she'd hear 475 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 5: footsteps walking across the floor, like shuffling across the carpet 476 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 5: right in front of her. Oh all the time. Yeah. 477 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 5: And then there was this weird room off the kitchen, 478 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: and we think it was like supposed to be originally 479 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: a maid's quarters or a servants quarters kind of thing. 480 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 5: But that room was darker, and I don't mean like lightwise, 481 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 5: I just mean the feeling of darkness in that room 482 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 5: way more than the rest of the house. Something bad 483 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 5: was in that room, that's what we know. 484 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: Do you think it was cam model ghosts? 485 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 5: It probably was right, like someone wronged for not having 486 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 5: not getting her tips or something. I don't know, but 487 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 5: something was definitely not right in that room. Something bad 488 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 5: hung out in there. 489 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: So, having lived in so many haunted houses, are you 490 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: comfortable around that stuff? I mean, it's a weird question. 491 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, examply each each time is probably 492 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: a different feeling or whatever. But how do you feel? 493 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: Are you not as scared? Still scared? Where are you 494 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: with that? 495 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 5: So, just to be honest, I have been sort of 496 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: practicing my own sort of spiritual path since i've been 497 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: in my twenties. Probably need towards the witchcraft sort of stuff. 498 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 5: That's just where I'm comfortable. Even though we're Jewish, I 499 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 5: mean by ancestry and by culture. We're Jewish by blood, 500 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: but I've always sort of been kind of a witchy Jew. 501 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 5: I don't even know how to explain that otherwise, but 502 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 5: I am comfortable with it. But I think it's subjective 503 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 5: for me, So I'm okay with it if I know 504 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 5: that everybody's cool, you know, and I do believe that 505 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: things sort of pass through. I do believe that we 506 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 5: have activity a little bit everywhere. There's no way that 507 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 5: just one space is haunted. In my mind, I think 508 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 5: that sometimes we have, you know, areas where people will 509 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 5: pass through, or you know, there's there's sort of more 510 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: traffic than other places. It's not necessarily like a exclusive haunting. 511 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 5: But for me, I'm fine if you're fine. Now. I 512 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 5: also know that if I feel like it's not my 513 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 5: turn to be in a space. That's what my sister 514 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 5: and I call it. It's not my turn where I 515 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 5: just go, Okay, you have this space right now and 516 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 5: I'll come back later kind of thing. Oh okay, yeah, 517 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: and so you do what you got to do in 518 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 5: this space and I'll come back when you're done, when 519 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 5: this space feels better for me to be in. So 520 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 5: I do that now. 521 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, well, oh that's interesting. 522 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you do your thing and I'll come back after 523 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 5: you're done. 524 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: Got it. But you're not like, maybe I'm going to 525 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: stick around and see what you're doing, and maybe I 526 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: can get a little maybe I can get another story 527 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: for ghost it in the future. 528 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 5: You know, I am not opposed to that. I do 529 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 5: have ghost hunting equipment. I am super down for all 530 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 5: of that. I love that. I love ghost activity, I 531 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: love paranormal investigations. I do love all of that as well. 532 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: But if it happens organically, I think it's so much 533 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: more a rewarding experience or it just I don't know 534 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: when it feels organic, as opposed to going and really 535 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: trying to make it happen, even though that's fun too. 536 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: I think when it happens sort of organically in your 537 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 5: own space. That's kind of interesting. 538 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: Okay, I have like a general question that's like kind 539 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: of a ridiculous question, but you know, I talk about 540 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: how I think that in Hollywood there's like certain types 541 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: of ghosts that you see a lot of and there's 542 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: reasons for them being ghosts. Do you have you noticed 543 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: that about Vegas, like a type of ghost store anything 544 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: like that. 545 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I know that in Hollywood because I'm originally 546 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 5: from West Hollywood. I know that we have that Hollywood 547 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 5: ghost Vegas, I'm not as sure. I think that we 548 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 5: have so much different. There's such a transient culture here, 549 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 5: and I think that so many different kinds of people 550 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 5: have come in and out of the city and into 551 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: these structures and on this land. I think it's really 552 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: hard to pinpoint for sure. I think it's like that 553 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 5: sort of patchwork quilt paranormal activity, which is kind of 554 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 5: cool when you think about it. 555 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. And I mean if you go 556 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: along with the idea of people's energy, you know, coming 557 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: like people come into that space, like they come to 558 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: the whole city with such a weird energy of just 559 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: like I'm on vacation, I can do whatever I want 560 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's like that, and then also so 561 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: much darkness and so much like, oh my god, I 562 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: just lost all my money or whatever happened. The Sin 563 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: City vibe, I'm sure, attracts so much energy from all 564 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: over the world. And yeah, it's probably a real hotbed 565 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: for paranormal activity. 566 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 5: Oh for sure. And I mean even before all that 567 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 5: you had, like the whole mob history and all that 568 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 5: and that happened out here. I mean, if ever, if 569 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 5: all the dead bodies in Las Vegas stood up, I 570 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 5: think we would be overrun with people. I think. I 571 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 5: don't think it could be any room to walk, That's 572 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 5: what I think. 573 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is like the scariest thing I've 574 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: ever heard somebody say in my entire life. 575 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I did, I won no, But I do. I 576 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 5: think that. I think that there's a lot of a 577 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 5: lot of stuff out here, because I mean, remember we 578 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 5: were so close to Los Angeles and southern California and 579 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: all this vast desert. Who knows what people came out here? 580 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: Who who knows? Yeah, Well, Becky, thank you so much for. 581 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 5: My pleasure, Thank you for having me on. Oh my gosh, 582 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 5: I'm so excited. 583 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: Hello, Rachel Colin is from the Big Apple, New York City. 584 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: How are you. 585 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: I'm doing well. 586 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're here. I saw your email 587 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: and it looks like you got some stories for us. 588 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Where do we start, God, there's so many. 589 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: I mean, we can start at the beginning. Okay, yeah, 590 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: I mean I the first house that I ever lived 591 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: in was completely haunted. 592 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: Where in so in the. 593 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: Suburbs of Philly. I grew up in an area that 594 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: was super super super historical, Like the closest cemetery to 595 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: my house had graves with people who were born in 596 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: like the sixteen hundred. It's like, oh my god, or 597 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: old school colonial right on the Delaware River too. Actually, 598 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: as a reference point, I grew up right next to 599 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: a town called Washington's Crossing, which is quite literally where 600 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: like George Washington crossed the Delaware. Yeah, so really old, 601 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: really spooky and as you can imagine, maybe some you know, 602 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: residual energy there from some colonization and some not so 603 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: good stuff. So the the house that I first lived in, 604 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: my parents actually bought the lot, so it hadn't even 605 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: been built yet when they bought it, and when my 606 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: mother was pregnant with me and my brother. I'm a twin, 607 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: by the way, but that does that does play a 608 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: part in the spook. But anyway, so it was just, 609 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: you know, was leveled woods, so lord knows what was 610 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: even in that area, and they bought the plot and 611 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: then it just was built into like this big, you know, 612 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: kind of cookie cutter subdivision. And the earliest memory that 613 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: I have in that house, I think I was about 614 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: two years old and shared a room with my brother 615 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: and I would wake up, you know, nightly, and I 616 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: would hear this, you know, deep male voice outside of 617 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: my bedroom door. And it was never speaking a language 618 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: that I could understand, but it would and it was 619 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: never threatening. It was just this kind of like low, 620 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: steady vocalization. I have no idea what they were saying. 621 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: I don't I but still to this day I can 622 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: kind of hear it, and to the point where I 623 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: remember to having some of my first memories of nightmares 624 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: were about that voice. So while it never felt like 625 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: it was going to hurt me, it still scared me. 626 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, so super spooky. That happened all the time, 627 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: super regular basis. I lived in that house from when 628 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: I was born until I was I think just about seven, 629 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: and I would say that that happened from you know, 630 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: my earliest memories of being a toddler until I was 631 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: maybe about four or five, and I just got really 632 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 2: used to it. It was all I knew, which is 633 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: really kind of messed up looking back. I was like, Oh, 634 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm just so used to the ghost compare. Yeah, that's fine. 635 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: Did you ever say anything to your parents? 636 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 4: No? 637 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: And I think I was just I was so young 638 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: that even if I had said anything, I'm sure that 639 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: they were like, oh, you know, kids. 640 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: Imagine, oh so cute. 641 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's because it is so easily explainable when 642 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: you have a two or three year old saying, oh, 643 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: there's a monster outside my room. Like, of course, you're, 644 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: as a parent, gonna choose to believe that there's no monster. 645 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: That's why I will not be a parent. It's one 646 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: of the many reasons I won't be a parent, because 647 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: if they said that to me. Yeah, if a child 648 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: said there's a monster in my room, I'd be like, okay, great, 649 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: well we're moving. 650 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So that went on, and there were times 651 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: that I remember waking up and I have maybe experienced 652 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: sleep paralysis once or twice in my life. It was 653 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: never anything that was really scary. I just remember waking 654 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: up and not being able to move, So I can 655 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: I think I can say that this was not that 656 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 2: I would wake up in the middle of the night 657 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: and I would look up and it would feel as 658 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: if the room was spinning. And then when I was 659 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: about four, my younger brother was born, and my twin 660 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: and I moved up to kind of like a lofted space, 661 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: kind of a mix between like an office and an 662 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: attic in the house, and that was when the energy 663 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: went from scary but benign to absolutely malevolent. I know 664 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: there was one corner of the room that just like 665 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: never ever ever got light, and there were skylights. We 666 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: were on the top floor, there were skylights. The rest 667 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: of the room would be like flooded with light, and 668 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: that corner was perpetually dark. So my brother and I, 669 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: still being you know, really young kids, just like avoided 670 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 2: that corner like the plague, and we would have synced 671 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 2: up nightmares in that room. One I distinctly remember being 672 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 2: when we both woke up the same time. It was 673 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: about four o'clock in the morning, and we both looked 674 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 2: at each other and said, did you feel the hands? 675 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: Did you feel the hands? And we had both had 676 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: dreams that had a pair of you know, disembodied hands 677 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: was grabbing us and shaking us awake. No, no, yeah, 678 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: pretty pretty nasty. So that was that I remember was 679 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: when was when we started becoming afraid of the room, 680 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: and eventually just kind of, you know, as little kids do. 681 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: We were like, it's okay, like we're just gonna play pretend, 682 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 2: or we're gonna you know, make forts and keep ourselves 683 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: safe and all of that. And the activity definitely subsided 684 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: as we got a little bit older, but we did 685 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: both have really, really really awful dreams in that room. 686 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 2: We would always have dreams that there were you know, 687 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: like hooded figures looking down at us from the skylights, 688 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: and we had no reference point for hooded figures being 689 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: you know, five year olds seen anything like that before, 690 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 2: so we would see we would have dreams of things 691 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 2: like that. I would have dreams where there were like 692 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 2: anatomical like dissected body parts on the walls, things that 693 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: I had never seen before, and only it would only 694 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: happen in that room if I fell asleep, you know, 695 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: down on the couch or if I know, slept in 696 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: my parents' room. It would never happen. It was only 697 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: that room, and I just to this day, the only 698 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: explanation that I could possibly have for it is something paranormal. Yeah. 699 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: So it just you know, continued, and there was always 700 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: just something in that house. And then we moved when 701 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: I was six or seven, within the same neighbor within 702 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 2: the same neighborhood, and the first night in that new house, 703 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 2: nothing happened. And that was the first time where I 704 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 2: was like, oh, that was not normal. 705 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not us, it's that house. Yeah. 706 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: Houses aren't supposed to have that feeling. And I was again, 707 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: like seven years old, and I distinctly remember sitting up 708 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: in bed in the middle of the night and thinking 709 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: to myself, I'm not scared right now. And it was 710 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 2: really It's something that we didn't talk about for years 711 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: until I was maybe like sixteen, and we were I've 712 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 2: always been I've always watched, you know, every possible ghost 713 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 2: hunting show, and I'm really the only person in my 714 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: family who's like outwardly really interested in the supernatural, and 715 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: so my skeptic parents definitely have given me a lot 716 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: of shit about that over the years. So we were 717 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: sitting around the dinner table and I was going on 718 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: about either an episode of ghost Hunters or celebrity ghost 719 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 2: stories or something, and my brother, my twin, perks up 720 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, well, you know what, wasn't our 721 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: old house haunted? And the entire table went silent. And 722 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: my mom, who had never said anything about it, she goes, oh, 723 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: that was absolutely haunted. There was a male energy there 724 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: and he was watching me all the time. Oh no, yeah, 725 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: so pretty pretty affirming in that moment. And it's funny totally. 726 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: My dad, who's the biggest skeptic, he was just like okay, 727 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 2: and then he just kept eating his dinner and the 728 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: rest of us like, wait, this is insane. And we 729 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: were all we were all able to like corroperate everybody's 730 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: stories and we all felt the same things and we 731 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: heard the same things, and it was super validating also 732 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: like very scary and mildly triggering, but it really affirmed 733 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: that there was something there. And oh yeah, and that 734 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: house goes on the market every couple of years. You know, 735 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: my parents still live in that neighborhood, and every once 736 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 2: in a while when I'm visiting, all drive by and 737 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: nine times out of ten. I feel like there's a 738 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 2: first sale sign outside the door. It's always on the market. 739 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well, what about the La story? 740 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 2: So that one was the one? This one actually really 741 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 2: scared me shitless in a really big way. I didn't 742 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: tell anybody about it for at least a year after 743 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: it happened. I was this was like five years ago. 744 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: I was in LA. I was visiting friends, and I 745 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: also I went to school for theater to showcase out there, 746 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: and we were there for showcase, and I extended my 747 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: trip so that I could see some friends, and I 748 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: was staying at my friend's house. And it was this 749 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 2: like probably built in the twenties duplex, and I think 750 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: it was in It was in near California Donuts, that's 751 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: all I remember. I think it was near your Korea town. 752 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: But I don't know La very well. Sure, I'm not sure. 753 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: But it was the weirdest experience because I, you know, 754 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't not to knock LA in any way, but 755 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: I knew that when I was graduating, I had no 756 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: interest in being there, and and so I was kind 757 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: of dreading the showcase. But I was like, you know what, 758 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: it's fine, I get to like be in the sun, 759 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 2: and you know, go to the beach and eat a 760 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 2: bunch of good food. I'll be fine. And I get off. 761 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: I stepped off the plane and I was like, god, 762 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: I just feel so weird. I just felt this like 763 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 2: dread and this like awful feeling, and I'm I don't know. 764 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: I consider myself to be mildly intuitive, but I also 765 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 2: think that I'm a lot of that has to do 766 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: with like high anxiety, So I think it's for me. 767 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: I confuse intuition and like my anxiety a lot of 768 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: the time. But I just felt this like really just 769 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 2: this feeling of like impending doom. This really just this 770 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 2: wave of dread, and I couldn't shake it. And I 771 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 2: was like, you're just tired from traveling. You're fine, You're fine, 772 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 2: You're fine. Just move on with your life. You're fine. So, 773 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: you know, I get in a car and get dropped 774 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: off at my friend's house and the feeling kind of 775 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 2: just intensifies, and I step into the house and immediately 776 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is why I feel bad. It was 777 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: just the energy in there was super heavy. I felt 778 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 2: like I was walking through like a swamp. It was 779 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 2: just really thick and awful. And again I tried to 780 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: just explain it away because I was like, well, my 781 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 2: friends lived here for years, and she's fine and probably 782 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 2: just tired and anxious and nervous, and you know, I'm 783 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: I'm just making I'm making it up, and so, you know, 784 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 2: I try to shake it off and have a couple 785 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: of drinks with my friends, and you know, we go 786 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: about our business. And the first night we go to sleep, 787 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 2: and a couple of their friends had been staying there too, 788 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 2: so we were all kind of just like sprawled out 789 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: on air mattresses in the living room. And the first night, 790 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 2: I wake up in the middle of the night, maybe 791 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 2: three or four o'clock in the morning, and I hear 792 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 2: this like low chant, and I think I said this 793 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 2: in my email. The only thing I can like in 794 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: it too, is that like weird operatic singing in the 795 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 2: beginning of Crimeing a River by Justin dinper Lake, which 796 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 2: is like, oh my god, it's like a super silly comparison, 797 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: but that's the only thing I can compare it to. 798 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like Gregorian chant or something exactly. 799 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was just it was the sound of 800 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 2: that plus the sound of rushing water and like like 801 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: almost the sound of wretching, like someone was like trying 802 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 2: to vomit or something. And my first thought was someone 803 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: outside had a rough night and they are dealing with 804 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 2: it accordingly by Welcome to Right. I was like, I 805 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: was like, you know, there are lots of crazy people 806 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: in LA. It could be anybody. It could be a 807 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: real person. I don't know. And I then I was like, oh, 808 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: maybe it's you know, the people who live below. Maybe 809 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: they're maybe someone's up and this is truly I went 810 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 2: as far as to try to explain as someone's awake 811 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 2: and they're singing in the shower and they swallowed some 812 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 2: water or something, and I look at my phone and 813 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 2: it's like four o'clock in the morning. I'm like, no 814 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 2: one's awake right now except for me. And it just 815 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 2: kept going and it kept going and it kept going 816 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: and terrified me. I couldn't explain it, and I couldn't 817 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 2: figure out where it was coming from. At first, I 818 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,959 Speaker 2: thought it was coming from outside because the window was open, 819 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 2: but it just kind of felt like it was in 820 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: the walls. And so I pulled out my computer and 821 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 2: my headphones and I put on like episodes of Drag 822 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,959 Speaker 2: Race or something, and and just tried to just tried 823 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 2: to watch something that would completely take my mind off 824 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: of it, and eventually I fell back asleep. And so 825 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: the next morning I wake up and I am really shaken, 826 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: and I look at both of my friends who were 827 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 2: sleeping in the same room as me, and I said, hey, 828 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: you know, did you hear this last night? I was 829 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: super freaked out, and they're like, no, we didn't hear anything, 830 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 2: so weird, and I was like, okay. So that day 831 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 2: was the day of our showcase, so super busy, super exhausted. 832 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: We get home, I'd pass out and nothing happens. And 833 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 2: then I was there for like five more nights, and 834 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: every single night it happened, and with you know, increasing intensity, 835 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: and it was just it just felt so icky. It 836 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 2: felt so bad, and nobody else was experiencing it. I 837 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 2: asked the people. There were three people who lived in 838 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 2: that house. I asked if they had heard anything. They 839 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: hadn't heard anything, and it was just me hearing this, 840 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 2: and I was just really fucking wigged out. I'm sorry, 841 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 2: Am I allowed to curse on this? 842 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? 843 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: Of course, okay. 844 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 2: I was just really wigged out and it just felt 845 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: really bad. And then the last day of the trip, 846 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 2: I was exhausted because I wasn't sleeping, and everybody was like, 847 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 2: we're going to Malibu, do you want to come? And 848 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I had have to catch a flight 849 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 2: in like six hours and need to pack, and you'd shower, 850 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 2: like I'm just going to stay here, yeah. 851 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like justin Timberlake's backup vocals have been keeping me 852 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: up all night, I'm good. 853 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't know what I should have just 854 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 2: I should have just gone to Malibu. I don't know 855 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 2: what made me think that I would just be totally 856 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 2: fine being in this house alone all day, but I 857 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 2: mean I was. I didn't have a car. I didn't 858 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 2: It's not like it's not like I could like go anywhere. 859 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: Was everything was so spread out and I didn't know 860 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 2: the area. So I was just stuck in this house 861 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: all day. And it happened again, just like during the day, 862 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 2: and I heard it and I tried to figure out 863 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: where it was coming from, and again I couldn't figure 864 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 2: it out. And I looked in the driveway behind the 865 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 2: house and the neighbors weren't home, and I sat out 866 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 2: on like the stoop for the rest of the day 867 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 2: because I was so terrified, and to this day, I 868 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 2: still don't have an explanation for that. But I got 869 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 2: back to Ohio where I was, you know, living at 870 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 2: the time, and I slept with the lights on for 871 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 2: like four weeks because I was just so afraid, and 872 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: I didn't tell anybody about it. I didn't I was 873 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 2: just I was so freaked out by this experience that 874 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: I was like, maybe if I don't say anything, maybe 875 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what I was thinking, 876 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 2: but I was like, maybe it'll just go away from 877 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,720 Speaker 2: my memory. Like I just I was just so freaked 878 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: out by it. And then a couple of weeks after that, 879 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 2: my friend who lived in that house texted me and 880 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: the other two people who were staying with her at 881 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 2: the time, and she was like, hey, super weird question. 882 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 2: We just found a bag of like a dark brown powder. 883 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: Did that belong to any of you guys? All of 884 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 2: us were like, no, that doesn't belong to us. They're like, weird, 885 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: it just like turned up in our kitchen. We have 886 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: no idea where it came from. And I don't know 887 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 2: if that was related. I don't know. There were a 888 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: lot of people in and out of that house like 889 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 2: at all times, you know, three roommates with three sets 890 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: of friends, like going in and out auditioning places like 891 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 2: there was just like a lot of foot traffic, so 892 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: it could have been anything. But after I got that text, 893 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if this is related, 894 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 2: but I'm done. I never want to go back there 895 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: ever again. 896 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 1: And once you left and went back to Ohio, you 897 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 1: didn't have that experience again. It was like specifically that house. 898 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 2: It was specifically that house, and ever since then, I've 899 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 2: been super protective of my energy anytime that, you know, 900 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 2: I like, I have a friend who's a psychic and 901 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 2: she's like recently coming into her abilities, and whenever I'm 902 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 2: around her, I just like shut off my energy because 903 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want anybody to take any of 904 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 2: my energy. I don't want anyone to tap into this, 905 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: like which makes me sound i know, like insane. But 906 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 2: it was just such a draining experience. Whatever it was, 907 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 2: it just like exhausted me for a week and it 908 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 2: terrified me, and like I just that was the scariest 909 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 2: thing that has ever happened to me. 910 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: Easily, Oh, I've been ghosted too. Hello Becky with a 911 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: why from Toronto. How are you hi? 912 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 2: Ros? 913 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 4: I am thrilled to be here. How are you? 914 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: I am so good. I you're the second Becky that 915 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 1: I have on this listener episode. I Becky with a why, 916 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: Becky with an ie. So that's why I called you 917 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: Becky with a why, Becky with a why. Okay, it 918 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: sounds like you've been all over the place because I 919 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: was reading your email and I'm like, okay, Becky is international. 920 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: Becky has traveled the world seeing ghosts. Can you tell 921 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: me about your stories? 922 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 4: Sure? So I grew up in Scotland, as you may 923 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 4: be able to tell, but actually my first ghost experience 924 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 4: was when I was on holiday in France. So like 925 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 4: Scotland is kind of known. If you say Scotland you 926 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 4: think of like castles, and I grew up in a 927 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 4: small village close to a castle where you know it 928 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 4: was supposed to be haunted. I never had an experience there, 929 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 4: but some people have. My first encounter with a ghost 930 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 4: or something kind of otherworldly was yeah, in France. It 931 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 4: was in a I guess it was called like a 932 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 4: holiday home. It was an old converted farmhouse and I 933 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 4: was on a holiday with my parents as a teenager, 934 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 4: which you know that's not always the most fun. But 935 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 4: we were in this farmhouse in this small village, and 936 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,720 Speaker 4: that was the first time I had an encounter where 937 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 4: I didn't feel scared. I knew something was there. It 938 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 4: was a feeling, but I didn't feel like scared by it, 939 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 4: and we, like we all had experiences, my mom, my dad, 940 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 4: and I, and there was definitely something, you know, objectively there. 941 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 4: So one of the most so one of the most 942 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 4: prominent things was I remember the morning that we left. 943 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 4: I heard I was like it was early in the morning, 944 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 4: like six am, and I could hear outside my room 945 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 4: there was like furniture being moved around, like screeping across 946 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 4: the floor. It was like a tiled floor. And I 947 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, maybe that's my mom and dad, like, 948 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 4: you know, up early moving stuff for some reason. I 949 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 4: don't know why. And eventually I was so sick of it. 950 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm trying to sleep. So this scraping 951 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 4: was going on really loud, and I got up opened 952 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 4: the door and there was nothing there and it stopped. 953 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 4: And I went through to my parents' room and they 954 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,760 Speaker 4: were asleep, and yeah, there was just no evidence of anything. 955 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 4: So that's very prominent in my mind. And my mum 956 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 4: also had experiences with hearing footsteps, that's the other kind 957 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 4: of main thing. And there was just a feeling, you know, 958 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 4: it was really old. I don't know how old, maybe 959 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 4: seventeen hundreds, So God has to be some spooks there. 960 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in Scotland, what's the stories of this castle? 961 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 4: Well, this castle, it's actually it's a tower. It's called 962 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 4: Greenow Tower, and it is known for it's sadly a 963 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 4: kind of a suicide spot, but it's also known for 964 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 4: having a green lady of course green. But yeah, there 965 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 4: are a few ladies like you get, like pink ladies 966 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:14,280 Speaker 4: and white ladies roaming these like old ruins around the country. 967 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 4: But yeah, this one had a green lady. And I'm 968 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 4: not sure of her story or anything like that. She 969 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 4: was just a presence there. I'm pretty sure. 970 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: Still there, the green Lady of Scotland. Amazing. So tell 971 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: me another one. 972 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 4: So another one I have is from actually from here 973 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 4: in Toronto a bit more recent. So I moved here 974 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 4: a few years ago and in getting to know the city, 975 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 4: I just wanted to, you know, like find out some 976 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 4: historical stuff. And when I visit places, I do like 977 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 4: to find out about, like you know, the spooky history. 978 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,360 Speaker 4: And one of the spookiest places here is a place 979 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 4: called Fort York, which is a millet tree like fortification. 980 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 4: I think it was involved in the War of eighteen twelve, 981 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 4: which was between the Americans and the Brits. So yes, 982 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 4: spooky kind of place. And I had a friend that 983 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 4: worked there, and some of the experiences of employees there 984 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 4: they would hear like bangs in the night, or they 985 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 4: would like see people through a window in one of 986 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 4: the like in one of the sheds, things like that. 987 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 4: And I was on a it was a ghost tour, 988 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 4: well it was called a I think it was a 989 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 4: dark or a lantern tour or something like that. And 990 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 4: we were in one of the blockhouses and we're having 991 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 4: this tour and the tour guides were telling us about 992 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 4: the house and how it was haunted and things that 993 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 4: various employees had heard on site. And they were in 994 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 4: the middle of telling this story, or someone had just 995 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 4: finished a sentence and there was this huge bang. It 996 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 4: was as if something had been thrown very fast or 997 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 4: very violently again against the wall. It was yeah, it 998 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 4: was like something really hard hitting the wall and it 999 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 4: didn't sound improvised or recorded or anything like that, and 1000 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 4: everyone was spooked. There was just this silence afterwards of Okay, 1001 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 4: that was definitely a ghost or you know, some presence 1002 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 4: was playing with us. It was as if it had 1003 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 4: been listening and was like, okay, well now's my chance. 1004 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: This is my cue. 1005 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. That was pretty scary, and like, I think it's 1006 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 4: a bit unusual to experience these things in a group 1007 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 4: as well. 1008 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you got your money's worth. I 1009 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: think about these tours all the time, and I bet 1010 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: on them and I enjoy them. But it's like, I 1011 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: feel like it's not super common to have something happen, 1012 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: so when it does, it's like, oh my god, what 1013 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: are absolutely hop on to yelp and spread the word? Hey, 1014 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: do you want to hear an EVP with me? 1015 00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 5: Oh? 1016 00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 4: I would love to. 1017 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: Okay, in time for EVP or ev PSE. So I'm 1018 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: just gonna assume that you know how this goes. But 1019 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: I go to YouTube, I find evp's Electronic Voice phenomenal 1020 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: and this one I found from somebody called Trinity Paranormal, 1021 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: and it's at a place called the Jefferson hotel. Now 1022 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,240 Speaker 1: I could not figure out where. I didn't say exactly where, 1023 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: but it sounds like an EVP. It may and tell 1024 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: me what you think you hear here? Okay, okay. Obviously 1025 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: there's like lots of like fuzz and noise, but then 1026 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: faintly in the background you can hear a voice. Okay, here, 1027 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 1: we'll play again. Oh did you hear anything? 1028 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's very difficult to make it out. Is 1029 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 4: if they were saying like go go or yeah, oh wait. 1030 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 1: Let me play it again. It sounds like there's some 1031 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: emotion behind it. It sounds like it's like yelling something. 1032 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 4: It's kind of urgent, like a warning. 1033 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, here's some options. One of these is 1034 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: what they believe it says. Is it A I'm in 1035 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: a cult? B are you cold? C I want to coke? 1036 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: Or d in a cone? Like you know when you 1037 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: go to McDonald's and it's like so rare that there 1038 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: are ice cream machine's working, but then it does, and 1039 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: then you order and they're like, do you want it 1040 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: in a cup? 1041 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 4: Go? 1042 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: And then I goes in a cone? Okay, with that knowledge, 1043 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: let me play it again. 1044 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 4: Oh oh, I love all of these options. 1045 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. All of these options 1046 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: sound exactly like what it says, in my opinion when 1047 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: we play it again in a cone. 1048 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hearing in a cone. Yeah, it sounds so 1049 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 4: like desperate, like please, but also I like the idea 1050 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 4: of I'm in a cult, like I'm in a cult, 1051 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 4: I'm trying to get out. 1052 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because again it sounds yeah, desperate, or it sounds 1053 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: like it wants to be heard. Well, they believe it 1054 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: says are you cold? Let me play it again? 1055 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I hear that as well. 1056 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: I can hear it well. But they also said that 1057 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: it was in response to one of the investigators saying 1058 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 1: out loud, I'm freezing. So that kind of makes it 1059 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: seem like it could be yeah, are you cold, or 1060 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: it could be like, are you freezing from eating ice cream? 1061 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: Because I want some? In an. 1062 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it could have been both. And that was in 1063 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 4: where the Jefferson Hotel. 1064 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: It was in some Jefferson hotel. I don't know which 1065 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: Jefferson hotel, but a Jefferson hotel with a possibly cold ghost. 1066 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 2: Ye. 1067 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: Well, Becky, thank you so much for joining me. Thank you, 1068 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much to Becky with an I Rachel 1069 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: and Becky with a Y and as always, if you 1070 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: want to hear a little bit more, go to Patreon 1071 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: dot com slash Roz dres False. Also, I've got that 1072 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: video of me doing my makeup and all sorts of things. Honestly, 1073 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: I've been doing it since the fall. 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