Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Official Yellowstone Podcast. We
Speaker 1: are so glad you can join us again. I'm Jen
Speaker 1: Landon and I am joined us always by my very
Speaker 1: good friend mister Jefferson White.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jen, how you doing. I am happy as always
Speaker 2: to be here with you today, but also especially today.
Speaker 2: So this is typically where we tell you, We tell
Speaker 2: the audience a little bit about what we've got planned
Speaker 2: for the day, We perhaps let them know who our
Speaker 2: guest of the day is. However, this week just so
Speaker 2: happens to be a very special week Valentine's Days this week,
Speaker 2: so I thought I might put together a little something special.
Speaker 2: Me and the producers have put together a little something special,
Speaker 2: and we're going to be surprising you with our guest, Jen. So,
Speaker 2: like our audience, you're also going to have to sit
Speaker 2: tight for just a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: Jeff, This makes me incredibly nervous. This could be very
Speaker 1: very good or very very awkward.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's going to be a little bit calm,
Speaker 2: a little bit calm be Jen. Listen, you're gonna find
Speaker 2: out soon, but for now you're gonna have to sit
Speaker 2: and stew and sweat, and we're gonna come right back after.
Speaker 1: This, Jeff. That was the longest commercial break of my life.
Speaker 1: Can I can I now know who my Valentine's guest
Speaker 1: is for the day?
Speaker 2: Listen? This is an audio format, so the audience can't
Speaker 2: know how gleefully, how gleefully I'm raising my eyebrows, and
Speaker 2: how sort of you know how much I'm insinuating by
Speaker 2: rubbing my hands together sort of fiendishly. Listen. You gotta
Speaker 2: be patient, Jen, We're gonna get to that. This is
Speaker 2: our Valentine's Day episode. However, so let's talk romance.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Please distract me with some other romances from
Speaker 1: the Yellowstone nineteen twenty three eighteen three universe. So I can,
Speaker 1: you know, not sit here and sweat?
Speaker 2: Well, it is funny. I mean, this is a show
Speaker 2: that is in a lot of ways really built on
Speaker 2: these relationships. You know, we see over and over again
Speaker 2: amongst the Dutton generations, we see these pairs, these partnerships,
Speaker 2: these two partners that support each other in many ways.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's support each other physically, you know. Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: you know, carry each other to safety. Other times it's
Speaker 2: helping each other manage responsibilities. It's a really beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: We see these really rich partnerships, and it also casts
Speaker 2: in a new light the tragedy of John Dutton Junior,
Speaker 2: our John Dutton, you know, in Yellowstone, the John Dutton
Speaker 2: that we first got to know, the tragedy that he
Speaker 2: has no partner. He is bereft from the moment we
Speaker 2: meet him. He is without that partnership, and he's seeking
Speaker 2: to sort of cobble together what he's missing by calling
Speaker 2: on his children, by sort of giving more and more
Speaker 2: responsibilities to his children. But it really, over and over
Speaker 2: again we hear him saying, if my wife only saw
Speaker 2: the mess I've made of his family, if only I had,
Speaker 2: you know, the kind of support that I needed to
Speaker 2: keep this ranch going and also to care for these kids.
Speaker 1: Right. And so you bring up an interesting point of
Speaker 1: the sort of difference between the partnership that we're talking
Speaker 1: about in terms of the women holding down for it,
Speaker 1: which is what John lost, and the romance that like
Speaker 1: John is obviously bringing in his life through Senator Perry
Speaker 1: through Summer, but that those romances are different than the
Speaker 1: kind of partnership that the relationships in the Yellowstone universe
Speaker 1: are built on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen both on Yellowstone we've seen hot and heavy,
Speaker 2: We've seen you know, we've seen infatuation. Everybody's talking about
Speaker 2: Spencer and Alexandra. Spencer and Alexandra before Spencer and Alexander,
Speaker 2: well after, but before or in terms of the show's hearing,
Speaker 2: what about Jimmy and Mia. Everybody everybody's talking about Spencer
Speaker 2: and Alexandra like they're the coolest, hottest couple. Before Spencer
Speaker 2: and Alexandra, we had Casey and Monica, Jimmy and Mia,
Speaker 2: Bethan rib and Laramie, Beth and Rip. And that's amazing
Speaker 2: because we've seen that that relationship grow and change over
Speaker 2: the years from one that was perhaps based on you know,
Speaker 2: mutual in fascin, mutual infatuation, based on perhaps a degree
Speaker 2: of lust, and now we've seen it mature into that
Speaker 2: kind of partnership that you're describing, this real sort of
Speaker 2: walking side by side. Another one of my favorite relationships
Speaker 2: on the show is Casey and Monica. I feel like
Speaker 2: Casey and Monica they've been through so much. You know,
Speaker 2: Beth and Rip have been through lots of ups and downs.
Speaker 2: But if you go back and watch Yellowstone again, so
Speaker 2: of Casey and Monica, they have sort of they've come
Speaker 2: really close to parting ways over and over again. They've
Speaker 2: been through so many roller coasters as a couple. You know,
Speaker 2: they started out with completely different goals. It felt like,
Speaker 2: you know, they were young and in love, they have
Speaker 2: a kid. But then when it came down to it
Speaker 2: and they have to start making decisions about, you know,
Speaker 2: where they're going to live, when both of their families
Speaker 2: are putting pressure on them, they really feel like a
Speaker 2: Romeo and Juliet to me in a way that I
Speaker 2: think is beautifully crafted. And those are also two of
Speaker 2: my favorite actors on the.
Speaker 1: Show same and while they do feel totally Romeo and
Speaker 1: Juliette in origin, they also simultaneously have a relationship that
Speaker 1: in many ways to me feels the most grounded and
Speaker 1: you know that day in and day out relationship. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we see that in another pairing. Do
Speaker 1: we see that in another pairing on Yellowstone? In that
Speaker 1: steady way.
Speaker 2: The kid, right, I think part of it is having
Speaker 2: Tate that brings them, that's this kind of unifying force
Speaker 2: that means they have to come back together. They always
Speaker 2: sort of have to return to each other for Tate's sake,
Speaker 2: and I really think that's a dry thing that you know,
Speaker 2: they've been through so many tumultuous ups and downs, and
Speaker 2: I think Tate is one of the reasons that they've
Speaker 2: always managed to navigate those those stormy waters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is actually a really good point, Jeff I
Speaker 1: suddenly was struck with this this question, which is, how
Speaker 1: do we think the different couples on Yellowstone are celebrating
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? You know, like, like how do they do it?
Speaker 1: So Monica and Casey since we started there, you know Monica,
Speaker 1: you know, Monica and Casey, I feel like are having
Speaker 1: a supper at home or you know, they're sitting on
Speaker 1: the porch a little quiet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to be intimate. And Tate has a
Speaker 2: question about.
Speaker 1: What do we think Summer and are doing Summer.
Speaker 2: And John they're also similarly, they're trying to be intimate,
Speaker 2: and Beth is interrupting it and dragging Summer out of
Speaker 2: the room by her hair. Yeah. Listen, Jen, speaking of
Speaker 2: what various couples are doing on Valentine's Day, folks are
Speaker 2: gonna wonder what it is we're up to on Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: I have no doubt you're wondering.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jeff, I need to know who is the guest
Speaker 1: for the day. All right, Jen, which ex?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you out of your misery. I've got
Speaker 2: all your ex you'r all your exes on this call.
Speaker 2: No listen, and you're gonna so here's your happy surprise.
Speaker 2: Over the course of this introduction, you will realize who
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, because I could only be talking about
Speaker 2: one man. We've got with us today, my dear friend
Speaker 2: of six years. He's an actor, he's a writer, he's
Speaker 2: a producer, he's a director, he's a businessman. He is
Speaker 2: one of the most multi hyphenit talented people I've ever
Speaker 2: met in my life and least interesting about him. He
Speaker 2: plays your love and Yellowstone Colby. We've got with us today,
Speaker 2: Denim Richards Denham, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3: Oh man. I feel like I need to take you
Speaker 3: and introduce me everywhere. When I go into grocery stores,
Speaker 3: when I get to petrol, everything that's now, that's what
Speaker 3: I need to do, literally anything. So it's great to
Speaker 3: be It's great to hear you guys's voice. Jen, how
Speaker 3: are you? Jen?
Speaker 1: I'm always happy to see you, but I have to say,
Speaker 1: I've never been more happy than I am right now
Speaker 1: to see you because of the terror I experienced for
Speaker 1: the last twelve minutes thinking that Jeff had brought some
Speaker 1: X out of the closet to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Do you imagine if there's like a roulette, imagine like
Speaker 3: a roulette something that's happening, like live or we just
Speaker 3: pulled in weird.
Speaker 1: Xces to tell you there aren't that many, like, don't
Speaker 1: make it roulette, there's like there's too many.
Speaker 2: It's more like, yeah, we're bringing.
Speaker 3: In I'm I'm clearly projected at this point. This is
Speaker 3: this is, this is all all.
Speaker 2: And now that we've got you here, Dnim, I'm so
Speaker 2: excited to bring our.
Speaker 3: Podcast right somebody that's dated.
Speaker 1: Both of us. At some point, it had to happen,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: It's like unbelievable. What's going on? Guys, how's everything? How's
Speaker 3: how's everything going?
Speaker 2: We're good man, We're chilling, We're spending today, we're talking
Speaker 2: about we're diving in. So at the core of the
Speaker 2: Yellowstone Universe, as we know, is family, and at the
Speaker 2: core of those families, it's couples, it's relationships. We're doing
Speaker 2: our our touchy feely intimate Valentine's Day episode of the
Speaker 2: Official Yellowstone Podcast. So we're talking about all the incredible
Speaker 2: couples of Yellowstone eighteen eighty three and nineteen twenty three.
Speaker 3: Okay, so naturally, when you were thinking super loving, super intimate,
Speaker 3: just romantic youth every week, it screamed whole Holby and Tea.
Speaker 2: Yes, but also we can't discount Colby and Jimmy's romance. Right,
Speaker 2: there's another You know, intimacy takes a lot of forms.
Speaker 3: It's true, this is true, This is true.
Speaker 2: Okay, before we get into all of that, we're going
Speaker 2: to step aside really fast, so don't go away. So
Speaker 2: listen this season to Yellowstone, particularly in season five of Yellowstone,
Speaker 2: we've got more relationships popping off in the workplace than
Speaker 2: ever before. Everybody on the show is booed up at
Speaker 2: this point. We've got Teeter and Colby, We've got Ryan
Speaker 2: and Abby, we've got Walker and Laramie. That's just in
Speaker 2: the bunk house, Jake and Ethan.
Speaker 3: And that to me is like the couple that everybody
Speaker 3: is kind of trying to get to be.
Speaker 2: Like exactly that level of that level of intimacy.
Speaker 3: We're all striving for that. I think like Lloyd and
Speaker 3: his gun, I got my gun.
Speaker 2: You know, Lloyd in the Life, the Cowboy Life. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like fishermen are married to see Lloyd is married.
Speaker 3: He's married to the title, He's married to the right.
Speaker 3: Like I think, no, this is I think it's fascinating, right,
Speaker 3: Like watching kind of all of these things, you know,
Speaker 3: it seemed like season one, it seemed like you would
Speaker 3: never be able to have relationships. And you know, the
Speaker 3: way that it's kind of been woven in in a
Speaker 3: very kind of organic way, it doesn't none of it
Speaker 3: feels forced. But I do think it's going to be
Speaker 3: fascinating because you know, us as individuals, we don't want
Speaker 3: our hearts broken. And then when you play that, you know,
Speaker 3: because we talk about this all the time that like
Speaker 3: you know, if a character leaves or if there's a
Speaker 3: split up, that person actually leaves. Yeah, right, So like
Speaker 3: we as individuals we feel even what the characters are feeling,
Speaker 3: because they're like, damn, this person's gone. I think hopefully
Speaker 3: these couples will stay strong and vibrant for many, many
Speaker 3: seasons to come.
Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of romance and the Dutton's right, So
Speaker 2: all of these all of these Dutton kids at this point,
Speaker 2: these relationships, and this season we also saw Jamie. Jamie
Speaker 2: developed this beautiful relationship, this amazing thing for Jamie. But
Speaker 2: I think the whole time we were all kind of
Speaker 2: grimacing and gritting our teeth with fear because this is,
Speaker 2: you know, it's the other it's the flip side of this.
Speaker 2: It's intimacy as a weapon, right, you know.
Speaker 3: The shoes on the other foot, you know, And I
Speaker 3: think that's you know, that's the Sometimes I think that's hard.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't never know if you're being used,
Speaker 3: what that looks like. You know, you get comfortable and
Speaker 3: then they cut your head off, you know. And I
Speaker 3: think that that's something with Jamie. I think that that's
Speaker 3: something he could could potentially be experiencing. Which is why
Speaker 3: more and more, as these relationships go, I feel more
Speaker 3: and more confident about the Colby and Teeters relationship because
Speaker 3: as weird as it is, the foundations of it are
Speaker 3: very unique and genuine. And I think that's it's fascinating
Speaker 3: because it seems like our relationship is kind of like
Speaker 3: a cockroach, right, where it's just no matter what you
Speaker 3: throw at it, We're still going to just kind of
Speaker 3: weirdly be together.
Speaker 1: Uh, Denim. Do you think that Colby and Teeter had
Speaker 1: a conversation about like consent in terms of bringing the
Speaker 1: third into their relationship, which is the bear. Do you
Speaker 1: think that like they talked about consciously bringing in a
Speaker 1: third or do you think that was just sort of
Speaker 1: spur of the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that in the moment, Colby felt like there
Speaker 3: was a lot of people that were around and he
Speaker 3: didn't want to make like a scene. And then I
Speaker 3: think what just kind of naturally ended up happening was
Speaker 3: the bear just became part of it. It's there at breakfast, right,
Speaker 3: it's bathing. It's weird, you know, but I think, you know,
Speaker 3: for Colby, I think Teeter loves it, and I think
Speaker 3: Colby is learning to love whatever Teeter loves from afar
Speaker 3: though right more.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that bear. I didn't see that bear on
Speaker 1: that truck when she drove out of there, so I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that bear is back.
Speaker 3: And it's like it's like it's like a it's weird.
Speaker 3: It's like an easter egg. Like nobody ever said, like hey,
Speaker 3: when he went back into we didn't see the bear
Speaker 3: in the bunk house. Where is the bear in the truck? Like,
Speaker 3: where is is the bear walking there? Like?
Speaker 2: I think that means Colby still has the bear, Dude,
Speaker 2: I think that means Colby held on to the beard.
Speaker 1: And before I uh uh lowered the conversation bar by
Speaker 1: bringing the bear and the threatle into it, you were
Speaker 1: actually hitting on like an interesting point you both were,
Speaker 1: which is about relationships that you know are maybe don't
Speaker 1: they're not right for everyone, but they're really right for
Speaker 1: that person. So for example, like Jeff, I was thinking about,
Speaker 1: of course, you know, there's this whole Mia and Emily thing, right,
Speaker 1: and I felt like what Jimmy had with Mia was
Speaker 1: so special, right, But it was one of those times
Speaker 1: in life where what they wanted and the circle stances
Speaker 1: of life were taking them in different directions.
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, Jimmy and
Speaker 2: Mia really didn't have a chance because Jimmy was ordered
Speaker 2: by his boss to leave this state, you know, like
Speaker 2: it's long distance relationships are incredibly difficult, punishingly difficult. Jimmy
Speaker 2: doesn't really he didn't have much control over his own fate.
Speaker 2: Mia certainly doesn't have a lot of control over Jimmy's fate,
Speaker 2: so it feels like circumstances pulled them apart. And then
Speaker 2: meeting Emily, it felt like that was the first time
Speaker 2: in his life that he actually had he got to
Speaker 2: make some decisions, he got to make some choices, He
Speaker 2: got to sort of, you know, be in the driver's
Speaker 2: seat and have some agency in his life, which I
Speaker 2: think is very empowering. I think that's a very empowering
Speaker 2: feeling to feel as though you're making your own choices.
Speaker 2: Because Mia pursued Jimmy from the beginning of their relationship,
Speaker 2: you know, Jimmy didn't make a lot of choices there either.
Speaker 2: I think he was really into it, but she kind
Speaker 2: of came up to him at a rodeo and hit
Speaker 2: on him. You know, she really was making the calls,
Speaker 2: which is intoxicating in its own way. But I think
Speaker 2: for Jimmy to actually get any sense of control, any
Speaker 2: sense of agency in his own life, it makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me that that is a powerful
Speaker 2: a powerful factor in driving people together, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think it's interesting too, like speaking on that, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I think with Mia it also became a
Speaker 3: good break between kind of the rough and tumbleness of
Speaker 3: the bunk house, but just giving a little bit of
Speaker 3: different energy somebody that's trying to let you see that
Speaker 3: you can be empowered, but because of your circumstance that
Speaker 3: you're in, it's impossible to act on that. And then,
Speaker 3: of course when you get to Texas, you're in an
Speaker 3: entirely different environment where you have the opportunity to a
Speaker 3: certain degree to become a little bit more empowered independently.
Speaker 3: And now you can kind of start to see what
Speaker 3: Mia saw in you before you saw it, but now
Speaker 3: the circumstances are different. I think Jen, what you were
Speaker 3: saying that sometimes the person that you end up ultimately
Speaker 3: in up with in life is not necessarily the person
Speaker 3: that you fell so deeply in love with and imagined,
Speaker 3: but it was somebody that in these circumstances and you
Speaker 3: learn that type of love. But there's so many different
Speaker 3: versions of love, right, And I think that we always
Speaker 3: just think that love is just a blanket thing like
Speaker 3: love is love, and there's so many different versions. There's
Speaker 3: loving in a situation and a circumstance depay on your
Speaker 3: social and economic standings, like it's so I think it's
Speaker 3: so multi layered and leveled and very complicated, and I
Speaker 3: think what's interesting about this show, and I think it's
Speaker 3: interesting in General's like art does imitate life, right, And
Speaker 3: so for us as individuals, we've all been in love
Speaker 3: with somebody that we thought that, you know, we can
Speaker 3: never imagine a life without them, and so naturally we
Speaker 3: thought we're good, and then something happens and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden that person's gone and you're like, okay,
Speaker 3: well now what And then you go and you fall
Speaker 3: in love with somebody else and you're like, okay, damn it.
Speaker 3: So it's this notion that it's like, yes, you can
Speaker 3: be in love, but that doesn't mean that if something
Speaker 3: goes wrong, that you can't be in love with somebody
Speaker 3: else and love some a different version because as we're growing,
Speaker 3: we're getting older and we have different versions of ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's very much a like right person, wrong time,
Speaker 2: wrong person, right time, and a relationship we've seen go
Speaker 2: through that whole spectrum is Beth and Rip. We've seen
Speaker 2: Beth and Rip at a time when they couldn't like
Speaker 2: they maybe had a sort of connection to each other
Speaker 2: that they didn't quite understand, but it wasn't the right
Speaker 2: time for them to explore that intimacy. It wasn't the
Speaker 2: right time for them to sort of partner up. And
Speaker 2: we've seen them over the course of the show like
Speaker 2: it was it was maybe the right person from the beginning,
Speaker 2: but it took them decades to find the right time,
Speaker 2: you know, and it was just that circumstances kept them together.
Speaker 1: There are these things though, if we look back in it,
Speaker 1: that they share that, like that Rip is always going
Speaker 1: to want, you know, cowboying is always going to come
Speaker 1: first for him on some level. Right, there's a freedom there,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about that a lot on the show.
Speaker 1: And there's something about Beth that will forever remains sort
Speaker 1: of wild, and so those two things sort of match together.
Speaker 1: And I was hearing some version of the thing that
Speaker 1: she said about all she really wants is, you know,
Speaker 1: a little house with like a little pasture that is
Speaker 1: like just her own or whatever, that the big expanse
Speaker 1: is too much for her, and there was and there's
Speaker 1: something about the Rip character that feels very much like
Speaker 1: that is true for him as well. You know, this
Speaker 1: is a guy who doesn't want to take over the
Speaker 1: Yellowstone Ranch. There's never been an inkling of that, like
Speaker 1: he just wants to serve, if that makes sense. There's
Speaker 1: a there's a simpleness in both their aspirations.
Speaker 3: And I think what's interesting too is like the question
Speaker 3: that you asked is that you know how like we'll
Speaker 3: be on set sometimes in like these kind of these
Speaker 3: hectic weeks or a month of DISCNECTICU, and we're like,
Speaker 3: you know what we're going to do when we wrap,
Speaker 3: We're going to go to an island for three weeks.
Speaker 3: We're gonna turn off our phones and we're just gonna
Speaker 3: be present. And then the moment where we wrap her,
Speaker 3: like what show do we get on? What do we do?
Speaker 3: We gotta work. So there's always a part of me
Speaker 3: that I wonder, like, can Beth actually just do a
Speaker 3: small house and you know, with a little pastor can Rip,
Speaker 3: you know, just wake up at nine am, you know,
Speaker 3: pour a coffee and just sit on the porch, Like
Speaker 3: can you do that? Or is it just kind of
Speaker 3: a fun thing to talk about. I think that's fascinating.
Speaker 2: I think you're so right. I think Rip could do it.
Speaker 2: I don't think Beth could do it. When Beth said
Speaker 2: that on the show. I was like, I believe that
Speaker 2: Beth feels that way right now, but I think she
Speaker 2: would be itching. She would be itching to get back
Speaker 2: in the boardroom, to get back on a plane. I
Speaker 2: think she would be itching to get back in the ass.
Speaker 1: I want to throw like, I think you guys are right,
Speaker 1: but I just want to like play Devil's advocate here
Speaker 1: a little bit. And just because this is a character
Speaker 1: as well who has like cannot shake the grief and
Speaker 1: rage that she feels over being robbed of being a mother,
Speaker 1: right And I'm wondering if she like was able to
Speaker 1: have kids, you know, if if actually like the raising
Speaker 1: of that child and pouring all of that energy into
Speaker 1: that would be the thing that would sort of ground her.
Speaker 1: And because so many some of Beth's impulses to like
Speaker 1: get out there and do things and whatnot, it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel just like it comes from drive. It feels sometimes
Speaker 1: like it comes from deep, a deeply unsettled place, you know,
Speaker 1: from her mother passing, from the loss of her ability
Speaker 1: to have kids. You know, there's a version of Beth
Speaker 1: that I see, like with a more less traumatizing child,
Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, it almost I could see a
Speaker 1: version of her if it feels a little bit more
Speaker 1: like Helen Mirren's character in twenty three, you know, which
Speaker 1: is still wild and filled with independence and adventure, but
Speaker 1: also more rooted in a life like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fascinating point. And also you know that
Speaker 2: that beast in her, that tornado in her, simmering underneath
Speaker 2: the surface. Should it be called upon, because as we
Speaker 2: see in nineteen twenty three, you know, she's got that
Speaker 2: dog in or two when the time comes when it
Speaker 2: needs to wake up and bark and bite a little.
Speaker 1: You guys, we're gonna we're gonna take a quick break,
Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're going to talk more
Speaker 1: about our favorite relationships in the Yellowstone Universe and maybe
Speaker 1: some of our relationships in our own personal lives. WHOA,
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: You know, another relationship that I'm watching like a hawk
Speaker 2: develop because I'm really enjoying nineteen twenty three is Spencer
Speaker 2: and Alexandra. That's a fascinating one. They found each other
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere. That might be a true
Speaker 2: star crossed lovers situation because they found themselves sort of,
Speaker 2: they found each other kind of against all odds, like
Speaker 2: on Safari, she was engaged to be married. He was
Speaker 2: chasing this death drive, like sort of trying to get
Speaker 2: himself run over by a rhinoceros. It's amazing that they
Speaker 2: found each other and in each other they find this
Speaker 2: kind of redemption. I think that's a bit of a
Speaker 2: Beth and Rip situation too, a different kind of connection
Speaker 2: and a different sort of they're at a different chapter
Speaker 2: in their lives. But I really think that's an amazing
Speaker 2: sort of star cross lover's relationship.
Speaker 1: I feel like Taylor's writing about that relationship that maybe
Speaker 1: we haven't seen yet in the sense of when you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there was nothing about Spencer that
Speaker 1: was even looking for relationship or or wanting one. And
Speaker 1: and it's it's that story of when when that thing
Speaker 1: walks into your life, no matter how much you don't
Speaker 1: want it, that's it, you just know. And that's what
Speaker 1: it feels like.
Speaker 2: He was really looking for the opposite, you know, if
Speaker 2: love is life. It really seemed like he was chasing
Speaker 2: his own death. And you know, his life a life,
Speaker 2: a different life, a different path walked in. Oh and
Speaker 2: now he's down a completely different path. Oh, Spencer. I know,
Speaker 2: we spend a lot of time. We spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time on this podcast talking about the big Man,
Speaker 2: Spencer Dunton. He's an icon.
Speaker 1: He's an icon because of the way he's written, and
Speaker 1: he's an icon because of the way he's portrayed. Between
Speaker 1: season four and season five, your life changed a lot.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk a little bit about where
Speaker 1: you live now and how your life looks different than
Speaker 1: it did before.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was living in Orange County and now I
Speaker 3: live in Botswana, which is in Sub Saharan Africa, which
Speaker 3: is where I'm doing this podcast. So clearly that means
Speaker 3: that there's internet and as you guys can see the
Speaker 3: layers of electricity and you know, wow, what a surprise.
Speaker 3: It's funny when people are like, uh, wow, running water,
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, guys, I'm fine, but you know it
Speaker 3: was important for me. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: with the world being more interconnected with different opportunities to
Speaker 3: for zoom, there's planes go everywhere, you know, you can be.
Speaker 3: I could be in Los Angeles if I needed to
Speaker 3: within twenty hours, you know. So I think that at
Speaker 3: a certain point you have to kind of figure out,
Speaker 3: like what you want to do with your life, what
Speaker 3: you want your life to look like. If you want
Speaker 3: to have a family, what does that family structure look like,
Speaker 3: and just kind of just do it. And the end
Speaker 3: of the day, like as we all know, production and
Speaker 3: being able to do thisseulf is such a blessing. But
Speaker 3: also with that, like at any given moment, things to
Speaker 3: just change. And then you sit there and you ask yourself,
Speaker 3: what the hell did I like? What was I doing?
Speaker 3: Did I get anything done in this court in the
Speaker 3: course of this time, or did I build a life
Speaker 3: that I always wanted to live or did I live
Speaker 3: a life that everybody else wanted me to live.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, you guys. I know our listeners are going
Speaker 1: to be disappointed if we don't talk about our on
Speaker 1: set relationship stuff, under our dynamic.
Speaker 3: With each other.
Speaker 1: They will be They will be it because and I
Speaker 1: don't know if we've like I'm sure we've painted this
Speaker 1: on the podcast before, but they see us on camera
Speaker 1: having fun, playing poker, you know, doing all the things
Speaker 1: that we do, and I feel like we do a
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff into varying degrees off camera, whether
Speaker 1: it's in between takes or on our free time.
Speaker 3: I think that's why we're not talking about it as
Speaker 3: much because we kind of like do a lot of
Speaker 3: the stuff that we do on screen off screen, like
Speaker 3: so I think maybe it's that's reason why we're not
Speaker 3: diving deep down because we spend time together. We go
Speaker 3: out to dinner together, some of us gym together, we
Speaker 3: play poker, we you know, we go to music events, rodeos,
Speaker 3: like all the stuff. The dynamics that we do on
Speaker 3: the camera are a lot of the stuff that we
Speaker 3: do outside of it. The difference is there's just not
Speaker 3: six hundred people, you know, they're filming us while we're
Speaker 3: doing it.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any favorite memories from on set
Speaker 1: or offset hangs from the last four or five years?
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: I think season one we went bowling and Wes Bentley
Speaker 2: got so mad because he lost in bowling that he left.
Speaker 3: He didn't leave, he did, he just left.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: It was like it was like one of our first
Speaker 2: big group hangs as a cast, and it's like, everybody,
Speaker 2: are we keeping the vibes good? No? No, no, Wescott
Speaker 2: in his car and fucking.
Speaker 3: Lie and you know it's hard in bowling. The thing
Speaker 3: that sucks and bowling is it's like it's only you.
Speaker 3: So then like naturally, as a competitor, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: want everyone to fail. But then you see the way
Speaker 3: that somebody's gonna take you, Like, I really hope they
Speaker 3: get a strike, Like I really hope that it goes well.
Speaker 2: For them, and then we're hard to let somebody win
Speaker 2: in bowling, right, I think I can do that.
Speaker 3: By the I can't make the ball it not go
Speaker 3: into the gutter. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're all sitting there like just like praying, trying to
Speaker 2: manifest West getting a strike.
Speaker 3: That was so funny.
Speaker 2: It was a big because Wes is a really good athlete.
Speaker 2: Everything very seriously, He's an incredibly pleasant, very smart guy,
Speaker 2: and we all of us have our days where we're
Speaker 2: a few bad roles away from uh yeah, that's you bad.
Speaker 3: Gutter balls away from being I mean, I think we've had,
Speaker 3: you know, I think some of the events, you know,
Speaker 3: that we've been able to go to together, Like I
Speaker 3: think one of the things exciting, you know, when we
Speaker 3: took a year off of Yellowstone and then we all
Speaker 3: kind of came back, you know for a cowboy camp.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that was nice just to kind
Speaker 3: of reconnect again. I think sometimes that it's just like man,
Speaker 3: we're like we're here, like we're doing it again. Like
Speaker 3: we didn't know. Oh, we didn't know that we were
Speaker 3: going to get the opportunity to come back, and you know,
Speaker 3: here we are. So I think it's always just it's
Speaker 3: exciting when we finally get that opportunity.
Speaker 2: To do so. I wasn't there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That's all I was saying.
Speaker 3: It was a highlight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the you just that's the one time I
Speaker 2: wasn't there. Jen, What do you got favorite memories? Oh,
Speaker 2: we have to both be in them. We have to
Speaker 2: both you and I have.
Speaker 3: I think for the same I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: But honestly, they're gonna act, they're going to exist a
Speaker 1: different listen, they're going to exist at different times because
Speaker 1: I think, honestly one of them. There was a hike
Speaker 1: that we took looking for some berries. Jeff, you were there, Dunham.
Speaker 1: You were not there, Dunham. You were like home or
Speaker 1: something you had left.
Speaker 3: That's pretty accurate.
Speaker 1: But we went hiking for some berries and we were
Speaker 1: looking for the huckleberries that we never find, which I
Speaker 1: don't even think are that hard to find, but we
Speaker 1: never find them as a group. There was, there's a
Speaker 1: small group of us and done of my favorite like
Speaker 1: offset stuff with you is always revolved around our obsession
Speaker 1: with health.
Speaker 3: Health.
Speaker 1: So you're going to say, you know, like the the
Speaker 1: insane conversations that we have in the aisles of health
Speaker 1: food stores and also the time that you and Ian
Speaker 1: let me work out with you guys.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 2: That was sweet.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed you guys were really nice about that.
Speaker 1: You're incredibly sweet about that.
Speaker 3: No, I think, but like I think, I think it's
Speaker 3: important for the audience to know, like, you know, as
Speaker 3: much as we are acting on you know, camera, that
Speaker 3: we actually do spend time with one another, and that
Speaker 3: you know, we are highly impacted by our relationships that
Speaker 3: we have because, like Jeff, like you were saying, when
Speaker 3: you're in that world, you know, in Montana, and it's
Speaker 3: very because it's so small and because we've been very
Speaker 3: blessed that the show has gotten so big, there's not
Speaker 3: that many places you can go and you kind of
Speaker 3: get that opportunity to kind of bond with one another.
Speaker 3: It's not the same thing as being New York or Elis, Chicago, Florida,
Speaker 3: where you can kind of just get lost in all
Speaker 3: of these other things that are going on. And I
Speaker 3: think that I think that our relationships on off camera
Speaker 3: really resonate on camera. I don't think that we're really
Speaker 3: having to do that much acting. I think we're just
Speaker 3: in the moment. I think sometimes we're just saying the
Speaker 3: words we happen to be saying the words, and a
Speaker 3: bunk house of saying the words, you know, on a horse.
Speaker 3: But I think it's a It's a beautiful thing, the
Speaker 3: relationships that we built on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you likes our friendship so much that he
Speaker 2: moved content?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I left. I wanted to make sure that I
Speaker 3: ran into people, so I got on a flight and
Speaker 3: left the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. He loved the time we spent together so
Speaker 2: much that he got as far.
Speaker 3: Away as far away from possible.
Speaker 2: I said, you said earlier, you were like, you know,
Speaker 2: I can be in LA within twenty hours. And I
Speaker 2: was like, Bro, isn't it like exactly a twenty hour flight? Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: you mean like I can be there in twenty hours.
Speaker 3: We one, like, I really have to think about it.
Speaker 3: I got to really want to. Well, the great thing
Speaker 3: about being here is like nobody's just in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Nobody's just like, oh yeah, hey, Like I was just
Speaker 3: in Botswana and I'm like, no, you are, like, so
Speaker 3: you got to kind of tell me I'm just coming through.
Speaker 2: I'm just popping.
Speaker 1: Didn't we all decide? Didn't we all decide we're going
Speaker 1: to BUTS wanted to hang out at Dunham. Since there's
Speaker 1: there's such a between every time we shoot seasons, We're like, well,
Speaker 1: might as well just go out.
Speaker 3: Of every season. We've also said that we're going to
Speaker 3: go on some magical vacation with all of us and
Speaker 3: they we're like, yeah, we're gonna do that and then
Speaker 3: we leave. But you guys, here's the reality. The good
Speaker 3: thing is I'll be here and so anytime you guys
Speaker 3: would like to come to Botswana, I'll be able to
Speaker 3: host you. We're doing a lot of exciting things, uh
Speaker 3: you know with my my company here, so uh yeah,
Speaker 3: so anytime you guys want to come, it would be
Speaker 3: it would be a blessing.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks always
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Speaker 2: he's doing. Much love Dhim, Thank you so much being
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Speaker 1: Bye.
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