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Speaker 1: Let's destroyed. Maybe like cap By coll Up. Get Showtime

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Speaker 1: free at showtime dot com. My brother, Jack, you back

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Speaker 1: All Smoke just getting started, baby, just getting started. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to a special quarantine edition of All the Smoke. Jack.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Bro? What's up? My brother? You don't know that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm still got from my birthday, that birtual birthday. Bro.

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Speaker 1: You got me drunk from a motherfucking zoom call. Bro.

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Speaker 1: I got drunk. It is crazy good time, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Jack again. Man, we got a special

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Speaker 1: Bay Area legend, NBA Hall of Famer, probably the best

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Speaker 1: ship talker we've ever seen. Welcome my broth and Gary Payton.

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Speaker 1: What's good? What's good? Fellas with you? Man? Shoot my my, my,

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Speaker 1: my nephew. You had a birthday high and you didn't

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Speaker 1: right right. So we had a KG back at All

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Speaker 1: up lads will be ridiculous because I go at everyone

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tet off and I'm on killing too, man.

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Speaker 1: And every time I make a bucket, I'm gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: the best dunkers of all time in Sean Kemp. All

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere. My mother's gonna come catching the dunk on somebody. Shit. Man,

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Speaker 1: Grady thanking Bob. And then you know how he at

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Speaker 1: the food he started pointing at people and how you

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Speaker 1: he made it entertaining when he dunk on you and

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Speaker 1: your mind to getting all bad. Uh. Cannabis can get

425
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: you there if you and you can take different ones

426
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: and make you mellow, to make you up here to

427
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: make whatever. And people gotta understand which one is a

428
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: witch one that you can do. And then we got

429
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff like that. And I'm not just

430
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: in the into the flower. I'm into bomb baths, I'm

431
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: into oils. I mean everything that's gonna make somebody feel

432
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: good about their self. And people know that. And that's

433
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: why a lot of people have been dealing with me

434
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: and wanted me to come to cannabis, uh, convintionous and

435
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that so that I can share this information

436
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: with I'm gonna share what I'm trying to do because

437
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm not just into two smoking and doing that. All

438
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: you guys know, I don't even smoke, but i do

439
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: have a line that people want to honor me with,

440
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do it. But then I'm gonna do

441
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: something else that is gonna make me be help other people,

442
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a movement. And I think we're

443
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: all gonna get into that, and we all want to

444
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: do that. And it's nothing wrong with with all every

445
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: one of you guys are doing because it is what

446
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 1: it is and this is the way life is going

447
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I think it's stuck. We're stuck on

448
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 1: old stick us. I think people fear the word high.

449
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean is we can remove the

450
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: word high and educate them because like you said, there's

451
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: so many different uh parts of this plant that can

452
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 1: help people in different ways, whether you want to get

453
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: whether you wanted to get the psychological high from it,

454
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: or you want to just get the straight you know,

455
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: the body recovery and and ailment. There's so many different

456
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 1: levels you can attack. And I think when people hear

457
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: the word cannabis, they instantly think you're smoking weeds are high.

458
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: But there's so many different ways to do this and

459
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: and I'm actually working on a project in the Bay

460
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: Area GP. We need to sit down and talk about

461
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: were unifying churches out there and educating church members because

462
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: you gotta think our grandparents, like you just said, we're

463
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: trying to cut that that we're trying to cut that

464
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,479
Speaker 1: medical cabinet in half, if not more, you know, by

465
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: taking different parts of this plant. You know. I mean

466
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: our grandparents are waking up taking how many pills a day,

467
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: like you said, just to get out of bed, just

468
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: to move, just to feel better. And there's so many

469
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 1: testimonies of people taking whether it's the oil, the tinctures,

470
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: the bath bombs, the rubs, smoking a joint, there's so

471
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: many testimonies to how beneficial is for these people. We

472
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: still want to have this old stigma on it. So,

473
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: like I said, I think the overall picture of all

474
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: of US athletes because when we speak, we know people

475
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: listen to really just push this mention and let you

476
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: know you can still be a very productive person on

477
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: on many different levels. Uh, if you're a cannabis user

478
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: and magic that's that's a good point because a lot

479
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: of the churches is and the people in their old

480
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: school people that really understand about what's going on. What's

481
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: a good thing about that is is that my brother

482
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: is is one of the main pastors in the you know,

483
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: in the California. He's the president of a lot of

484
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot of the things in California, where I'm educating

485
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: him on the same situation that you're talking about by

486
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: going to church and telling him what's going on. Because

487
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: he's got diabetes and he's got this. I want him

488
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: to get off peels and all of that stuff too.

489
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: It's nothing wrong, it's nothing wrong with it with the

490
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: stuff that he's doing. He doesn't have to smokee weed

491
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 1: and and and marijuanted to do that. He can get

492
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: these body wraps and cdds will make him feel understand

493
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: And we gotta get them to understand that. And that's

494
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: the problem that we have is that we're not letting

495
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: everybody understand what it is. And match You're right, all

496
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: they think about is high. It's not like that anymore.

497
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: It's just just a just regeneration man. And it's nothing

498
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: about hot and the more some people can take it

499
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: like we can say it with Snoop Dogg. He smokes

500
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: all the time and it's just something that he's immune to,

501
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's his thing to do

502
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: to keep him feeling right and and keep him motivated.

503
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: And that's no problem with that. And that's my homie,

504
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: and that's my dog. And I love him to death.

505
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: And I'm with him on that if that's gonna make

506
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: him be productive for him, for him, for him, for

507
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: everybody is different. Everybody is different. You know, we have

508
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: a hot we have a high tolerance. We smoked before

509
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: we played, when we played all the ship you know

510
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, So to everybody is different. But that's

511
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: the amazing part about it is because there's so much education.

512
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: I think education is the key. Now you learn how

513
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: the microdulce. Now you find out because to me, I

514
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: don't never want it to someone to have a bad

515
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: experience on it, you know what I mean. There's so

516
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: much information education on it. Now you can know you

517
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: can micro dose if you're messing with the edibles or

518
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: the tincuers whatever, you know. I even want to get

519
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: to a point where you know, I'm letting a little

520
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: cat off the bag. But when we start dropping our

521
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: pre rolls and ship again to give people like levels, right,

522
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: when you smoke this much, this is what you should feel.

523
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: You spoke this much is what you feel, And if

524
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: you feel like you can handle a whole joint, go

525
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: for it. But to me, if we can educate people

526
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: and let them know, like there's a responsible way to

527
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: handle this. Like the old narrative of stoners or loose,

528
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: this is a real life business down and and this

529
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: plan is really help helping change people's lives. So we

530
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: can continue to educate. Like I said with the church ship,

531
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: we definitely gotta link up with that to continue to

532
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: educate the members. Shout out Bishop Clark and word Assembly

533
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: in Oakland. We gotta sit down, especially that your brother

534
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: is a pastor too. So we got a whole a

535
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: cool play in the Bay Area and we want a

536
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: cookie cut that model and take that ship all over

537
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: the country. Yeah, we gotta do that soon and because

538
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: it'll it'll help everybody and it'll start something. But what

539
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: the thing is, I want to I want to congratulate

540
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: y'all and I want to be saying I'm proud of

541
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: both of you too, or even coming up with a

542
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: with a show like this so that they can understanding,

543
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: so that everybody in the world can understand what's going

544
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: on right here, especially with the two of you guys,

545
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: who you guys have doing what you've done in the

546
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: community and what you've done on the basketball court for

547
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: these people to come here and then y'all educate them

548
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: and talk to educational wise. That's what y'all doing. Now.

549
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: You're not talking like you're ignorant or a fool or

550
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: nothing like that. Y'all talking where y'all know about everything

551
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about in educational and doing things like that.

552
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: And I'm very proud of y'all, man, and I want

553
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: to give you all crudos for that, because this is

554
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: what we need. This is what we need in this Worldely,

555
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: we definitely appreciate it. And you know, a lot of

556
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: people you know and men, Matt, we always talk about it.

557
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: Then to touch what you're talking about the productive side

558
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: of it. It's just the stigma is just so bad.

559
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: Like I started smoking when I was twelve, so I

560
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: honestly would say I can tell by the I can

561
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: tell by the tent on the on your lower lipt.

562
00:26:53,880 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: It looked about because it started with used to be swishers,

563
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: then with the great swishers. Yeah you know what I mean,

564
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: shout out back shut out and shout out shot backwards

565
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: jack like backwards backwards holiday jack. He'll definitely you could

566
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: tell either backward supporter, so do something with it. Yeah,

567
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: but but for me, but for me, I know, I know,

568
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: especially sports wise, I played through all kind of entry,

569
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: just like you both y'all did. It's no way I

570
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: would have made it fourteen years, is no way I

571
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: would have been a productive that I that I have

572
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: been if it wasn't for cannabis. So a lot a

573
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: lot of people, I'm glad, like you sound glad that

574
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: we are able to stand on the form front because

575
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: me and Matt. You've never seen me and Matt missing

576
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: the game or suspended because of cannabis. You never seen

577
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: us getting pulled over with it. So we can speak

578
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: on it because we had with because we've done it

579
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: the right way, you know what I'm saying. So I'm glad.

580
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we got people like you two O

581
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: G that speak on the two because it gives us credibility,

582
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: right And you know, you guys, even though I didn't

583
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: smoke weed when I was in the league, and I

584
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: try to be uh a guy where I was tough

585
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: all the time and get through it, you know what

586
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But then I wish I could I would

587
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: have because then I wouldn't have had so much alcohol

588
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: in my system right now, what I'm saying, see, and

589
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: so I used to put it to the alcohol man.

590
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: Y'all had y'alls, I had mine, man, So I wish

591
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: I would have been a little bit different on that

592
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: because then I would have had my body, you know,

593
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: way way more better to than that idea then. So,

594
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: but it was always a learning process of what we're doing.

595
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: That's why everything trickles out to be what it is

596
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: in the future. Everything happens for a reason, and now

597
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: this reason is in that we understand it what the

598
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: cannabis is going about and how we did it, and

599
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: y'all had it already and and at forefront when y'all

600
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: was in the league, So we don't you know, people

601
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: don't know it, but they know it now. And that's

602
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: why a lot of these sports are now starting to say,

603
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: we're not gonna test for this. We're not gonna test

604
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: for marijuana. We're not gonna do this thing. So it's

605
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: not like I think it's so much not to cut

606
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: you off. You. I think that these leagues worried so

607
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: much about image and the message we're putting out the children,

608
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's not so much

609
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: promoting go smoke weed, just don't test for it no more.

610
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Remember back I'm sure, it's for you. We used to

611
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: get that preseason test. Uh one time we was good,

612
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like they were saying, go smoke. But

613
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: they just wasn't testing for that ship, you know. So

614
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: it's not like you're promoting we think kids, because I mean,

615
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: obviously the n b A is you know, we got

616
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: the kids until we got the world's attention, so we

617
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 1: are obviously they want to be conscious about the message

618
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: we're sending to children. But like I said that, at

619
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's not so much about

620
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: promoting the situation. It's just not testing for it anymore, right,

621
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: And that's what the leagues are doing because it's not

622
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna be you guys. You know that they're not gonna

623
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: be able to stop you guys from smoking weed and

624
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: nobody else. You're gonna do it. We're gonna do it regardless.

625
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it regardless. So why why fighting If

626
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: you feel around and all of a sudden you get

627
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: eighty people that that's positive for it, what you're gonna do.

628
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: You'll mess your whole league up if you try to

629
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: suspend eighty people, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and

630
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: just make sure and and y'all guys are responsible. Y'all

631
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: come to the game. Y'all know not to y'all gonna

632
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: hurt nobody or nothing no happen. You can read, you

633
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: can you can redo, you can do it, you can

634
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: maintain it and contain it, and you be responsible. So

635
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: everybody gonna be good. And they know they're not gonna

636
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: be able to control everybody because everybody's gonna keep doing it. Right.

637
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: I remember towards the end of my career, Um, I

638
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: was in the drug program and they were over I was.

639
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: I was told there half the dude there was over

640
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: two hundred dudes in there for cannabis alone. Yeah, that

641
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: that's half the league, you know what I mean. And

642
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: it's everywhere from rookies to superstars. You know what I mean,

643
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: like in all and not just the NBA, in the

644
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: NFL and Major League Baseball, you know what I mean.

645
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Like we know other people in different walls of life,

646
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: and it is what it is, So it shouldn't be

647
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: looked down upon. It shouldn't be criminalized. You shouldn't. You know.

648
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: I lost my home boy, shout out my home boy

649
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: Ontario men from Sacramento. One of the coldest running backs

650
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: ever was about to sign a big deal with the

651
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and got pot for the third time with

652
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: the Tree and some others you know in in the situation,

653
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: and he lost his career over it. You mean, you

654
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: look at the dude from the Cowboys, David Irving retired

655
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: over it because people, you know, people, they don't understand

656
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: the real benefits there. They they look at it and

657
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: with the old stigma, the old stereotype that it's it's

658
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: it's a gateway for other bullshit, and it's not, you

659
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we we smokers, and we smokers,

660
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: and it's very beneficial in our lives. Man. So it's

661
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad that I think we've still got a way

662
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: to go, but we're definitely heading the right direction as

663
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: far as just trying to normalize this. To me, it

664
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: should be just as normal for a mom at the

665
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: end of the day to have a joint than it

666
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: is to have a glass of wine. And that's true.

667
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: It's everybody, you know, Like you said, man, a lot

668
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: of people like to drink wine. Some people want to

669
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: have I have our joint, you know, I'm saying, have

670
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: a pre roll, you know, just smoke that and and

671
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: that'll make you relax and be there and you know,

672
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: and I guarantee right now in this quarantine, that's what

673
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: it's all about. Right now, everybody hey probably smoking it

674
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: out right now. So it's all good, man. And as

675
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: long as we could get to the point where we

676
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: can get everybody educated on this and get this to

677
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: just be where it's at, because we are moving in

678
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: the right direction. We are doing things and the right

679
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: people are stepping up to promote this to let them

680
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: know it. And the people that are stepping up are

681
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: respected people and people listen to it. So that's good

682
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: that we're getting into the right right direction. We need

683
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: to all come together on this is something our brother

684
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: Alharings has been been preaching on this. We need to

685
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: all come together and figure out, you know, create some quarter,

686
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: some sort of board like continuing to come together and

687
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: push this narrative and educate people. I think education um

688
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: on this situation is the key man. But we're gonna

689
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: wrap it up so like I said, we want to

690
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: get you in the studio, so we're not gonna get

691
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: too deep into too much ship. We're gonna close out

692
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: with a couple of quick hitters for you. Um, favorite

693
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: favorite player to watch, present day, favorite player to watch

694
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: present day? Man, you know that's a hard but I'm

695
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: gonna go with the boy Moran. Yeah, John Maran, I like.

696
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I love a little young boy man. He got a

697
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: lot of dog getting. He don't back down to nobody,

698
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: get into it. He talk his crash too, and he

699
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: just don't back down to people. And he reminds me

700
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: of myself a lot, and I love it. I love

701
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: that young kid. Yeah, So tell me the current day

702
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: with your rules rules from the nineties. Who's one point

703
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: guard you want to go one on one with? Play defense?

704
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: How you can play Marcus Smart from Boston. I want

705
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: to go at him, man, he little. I think I

706
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: think me and I think me and him might have

707
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: a real, real good battle. Man. I want to go

708
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: there because he got he got it and it's one more.

709
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: I would want to go with Patrick Beverley too. I

710
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: would want to go there. So you know what Tom

711
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: to yeah them THEO I really really yeah, yeah, I

712
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: would want to go to both of them. If if

713
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: the season gets back on track, Um, who do you

714
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: see going to the finals? I see the Clippers and

715
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: Milwaukee going to the finals. I think both of them

716
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: got both of them got what it takes. Milwaukee is

717
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: in that division and the East Coast where I think

718
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: they just dominating it right now with Janice being healthy

719
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: and everything, I don't think nobody over there can stop him.

720
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: Over here in the West Coast, you know, the Lakers

721
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: are are the truth. But I still think that that

722
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: team over there, with the with the Clippers, they got

723
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: too much off the bench and they got too much going.

724
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think Kauai and Paul uh and

725
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: Paul is just it's just they're just too tough for me.

726
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: I think that. Then with Patrick Beverley being the one

727
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: who he go and go lockdown superstar, I think he

728
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: can get up into Lebron a little bit and slow

729
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: him down and then get all of the big dogs

730
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: to start guarding him at the end, which they have done.

731
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: But the Lakers proved in the third game that they

732
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: can get with him. But I still think they got

733
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: too many people Clippers. So you see Clippers winning the championship.

734
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: I do see the Clippers winning the championship. You know,

735
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: I see the West winning championship period, even if the

736
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: Clippers don't. Even if the Clippers don't go by, and

737
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers can can do detrag can get at the

738
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: at the at the Clippers. I think the Lakers will

739
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: win the championship, especially with Lebron and a d. Lebron

740
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Is is just a player where you can't stop him.

741
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna get a triple double and he's gonna win

742
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: his way. You know, you don't seen that. I've seen that.

743
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen it every time he went in

744
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: the championship eight years in a row, at each heat

745
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: took bad teams to the championship. If the Lakers get by, yeah,

746
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: If the Lakers get and he got a great team

747
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: now and the Lakers by the Clippers, that winning to Yeah,

748
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: that win it. I see a lot of people think,

749
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: like by saying that that we're disrespecting Milwaukee, but we

750
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: know it's former players. You gotta do it in the playoffs.

751
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't gonna how many games you win in the

752
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: regular season, because you saw the Warriors won seventy three

753
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: and they and they and they unfortunately lost. Yeah, you

754
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta do. Johannis has to be the superstar

755
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: in the regular season, in the playoffs and then us

756
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: when his him and his team start getting more respects.

757
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: So it's not a disrespect thing, it's just he still

758
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: has some more room. You know, as former players, we

759
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: feel he needs to grow and he needs to do

760
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: he need We need to see regular season Janice in

761
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: the in the playoffs, in the Eastern Conference finals, and

762
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: we need to see regular season Janice in the finals.

763
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: And then that's when your team starts getting that respect

764
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: And then, Matt, you gotta understand, playoffs are very different

765
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: possessions to become a lot of important, referee start calling

766
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: the game a little bit more tough, as you've seen

767
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: last year when when Toronto start doubling him and then

768
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: putting Kauai on him and doing doing things, they took

769
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: him out of the game and he struggled. And then

770
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: now this is what he has to do this year.

771
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: And that's what he's been been preaching about all some

772
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: all season, that he's gonna be different. And when he's

773
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: being different, the other players on his team and his

774
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: teammates are gonna have to be different too. They're gonna

775
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: have to take some of that load off of him,

776
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: score points and make to make their selfs important too.

777
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: And that's what you guys know, we played in the NBA,

778
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: and when we get to the playoffs, it's a whole

779
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: different story. They start are you don't play person one

780
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: game and then don't see him until two months later,

781
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: playing back to back to back, and you gotta adjust,

782
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go in and watch videos and then

783
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to do something different than you gotta

784
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: be ready for, right right. I think it's important, man,

785
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: for Milwaukee, you know, with Middleton to be that consistent

786
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: second option, bled so to be that consistent third option,

787
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: and then the rest of the players just play their role.

788
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: But I really like, I thought Boston was playing really

789
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: well before we uh we took this break, you know

790
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think they were starting to get

791
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: their chemistry. Jason Tatum and Brown were hitting their stride,

792
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 1: Kimball was getting in where he fit in every Gordon

793
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: Hayward was flashing. Everyone was playing their roles, and I

794
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: really liked what Boston was doing. Um, but it's gonna

795
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: be interesting, man. Hopefully the League of the Season will

796
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: come back and we can crown and champ. Yeah. Yeah,

797
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: with Boston, Matt they get hurt too much. They let

798
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: one of them out. This time one of them out

799
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: that time. If they all could be on the floor

800
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: at the same time, they're a big threat. They are

801
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: really big threat. And with Tatum, and with Tatum playing

802
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: the way years and he's starting to become a superstar,

803
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to stop him from scoring the basketball when

804
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: he can give you thirty anytime, and then he real

805
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: smooth with his jumper is wet, and if they can

806
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: keep it up, they are a threat too. Over there

807
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: in the East, I think I think we walking is cool.

808
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: But but everybody talking about Yannice, we always see the

809
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: regular season Jannice. I think they could come out of

810
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: the East, but we need to see playoff, honest. We

811
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: can't see regular season nice in the playoffs. We need

812
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: to see playoff, honest. So he got to find another

813
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: identity to understand that the level goes way higher in

814
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs and you gotta bring your you gotta bring

815
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: your level up way higher. You gotta start hitting jump

816
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: but you gotta start doing stuff that you couldn't do

817
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: in regular season, that you wasn't doing the regular season

818
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: to get your team to the finals. And I think

819
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: you know that now after losing last year, he gonna

820
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: win the m v P two years in a row.

821
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: He gonna win it again this year. And I think

822
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: what's gonna make him different? What made him different this season?

823
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: Of them going into the World Games and if people

824
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: stopping him in that coach talking about we've been playing

825
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: against him so long, we know how to stop him

826
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: and stuff like. That's why I think he's gonna be

827
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: a little bit different when it comes to playoff time,

828
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be He's gonna be pretty good in

829
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think I like Lebron for m v P.

830
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: But I feel you, Hey, before we get out of here,

831
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: we're another reference. We spoke to KG one time and

832
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 1: he said that one time you pulled KG and Kobe

833
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: aside and taught up some ship on defense about when

834
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: to go after the ball, and then Kobe applied it.

835
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: It was a little back and forth. But you gotta

836
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: tell us about any personal stories you may have a

837
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: cob one of maybe one of your favorite memories of Kobe. Well,

838
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, Matt, I had the pleasure of mentoring Um

839
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: for one year when he was in trouble with the

840
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: differcation stuff. Uh it was really uh enjoyful time for

841
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: me to mentoring him. I became a big brother to him.

842
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: Kobe was just a little different. He he didn't have

843
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: no he didn't have no ego. But I'm not as

844
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: a meaning he did have ego, but I'm saying an

845
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: ego and acting o. G s what to do and

846
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: well and how did he could become better? And when

847
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: he came approached me at the All Star Game and

848
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: asked him how to become how to make first team

849
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: All Defense. And I sat there to at uh at

850
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Speaker 1: the the center court and taught him a lot of

851
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: things and he made the first team All Defense with

852
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: me that year. I said, this young kid that has

853
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: a lot of different and a lot of different things

854
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: in him. He's got a lot of different mentality. And

855
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: he kept asking me stuff every time he played me,

856
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: and I posted him up and I got it. He

857
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: would always come over to me and and and sneaking

858
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: in my ear. Oh g man, why you keep killing

859
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: me on these post ups? Man? You gotta teach me

860
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: that what should I do? And that was just a

861
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: big thing for me to hear that, and they respect that,

862
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: and I couldn't do nothing but respecting and teach him

863
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: the game because I know I'm a lot older than he,

864
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: and I was gonna be leaving the game soon, and

865
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: I want to see somebody in that game that imitates

866
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: the things that I do and can be dominated at it.

867
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: And this kid was one of them guys and I

868
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: and I taught him everything that I need to tell him.

869
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: We used to stay after practice at UM in l A.

870
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: And he used to t I used to teach him

871
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: to post up game. Then he used to fade away.

872
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: He took it all. He faced you up and go

873
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: at you. And it was things that he did like that.

874
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: And we used to do drills about defense. I used

875
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: to get him and I used to throw a tennis

876
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: ball back and forth and he used to catch with

877
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: one hand, catch one hand and slide what I I

878
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: learned and he got so good at it where he

879
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: used to guard all the top guys. And that's what

880
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I started telling him, stop straying away from all the

881
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: top guys. If day, if the top guy on the

882
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: team is there, you guard him, guard him all night,

883
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: and then you take his heart from him, and then

884
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: you go down and kill him on the other end.

885
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: And that's what he started doing, and that's when he

886
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: started with the dog shit, I love that. I don't

887
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: want to touch on that real quick because people forget,

888
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, towards the end of your career, Uh, you

889
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: touched with the Lakers and obviously won the championship with Miami.

890
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: What was it like going to the lager team because

891
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: arguably two people you never thought you would see move,

892
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: you and Karl Malone end up with the Layers. What

893
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: was that like because of that lake a lifestyle something else. Well,

894
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, Mattie, it was right a lot different. And

895
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: the and the way we got to l A is

896
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: because me and Karl had planned already to play with

897
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: each other. We have been talking about that for two

898
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: All Stars, and we said we knew that we wasn't

899
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna be with our same team for a long period

900
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: of time because our owners was a little bit different.

901
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: They were trying to stray away from us a little bit.

902
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: They wanted to go young. So he always told me,

903
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna play together. So when we came

904
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: free agents and then all of a sudden, magic start

905
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: calling us and saying that the Lakers want us, they

906
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: want us, they want us, they want us. And then

907
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden call called me and said, you know,

908
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: I want to go to the l A. I want

909
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: to get signed. I wanna get out of this coldness.

910
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I want to get out of all this crap. Man.

911
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: Let's enjoy ourselves at the end of our careers and

912
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: do what we do. We could sign here for two

913
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: years and and then re up and then in our

914
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: career here and it will be fine. And he said,

915
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: I'll take the less money, you take the big money.

916
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: And that's what we did. We took the left, he

917
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: took the less, I took the big and we went

918
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: there and it was a lot different. We didn't expect

919
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: for Kobe to get in trouble, we didn't expect for

920
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: shock to v few new dr Bus. But we we

921
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: worked it and we did a good job at it.

922
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: We went to the championship. I love both of them dudes, man,

923
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: and we had a good time and a love calling long.

924
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: We had a great time while we was there, even

925
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: though it was turmoil. Yeah. No, we wanted, like I said,

926
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: next time when you come in studio, man, we're gonna

927
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: get down and talk about We're gonna get in depth

928
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: about everything, man. But we just wanted to thank you

929
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: for your time today man, and and and and give

930
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: you your your respect that you do. Man, you're a legend.

931
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. I know obviously you and Jack are

932
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: close with the Big Three and other stuff, man, but

933
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: we appreciate everything you've done and and stories like that.

934
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: You know, we think it's amazing when the O G

935
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: s really kind of you know, passed that off. Like

936
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: you said, you was on your way out, you wanted

937
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: to share. That was one thing that Kobe was adamant about.

938
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: And it was across all avenues, not just sports, but

939
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: just you know what good is a brilliant mind if

940
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: you don't share it. So thank you for doing what

941
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: you do. Man. Appreciate Yeah, I appreciate you all too, man,

942
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: And thanks for having me on the show. And it's

943
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: always a pleasure man, especially with you too. You know.

944
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: You know, I respect both of you guys, man, and

945
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: you're both dogs and me and I respect that. So

946
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's always a pleasure anytime you need me,

947
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: both of y'all. Y'all just called me. You know, y'all

948
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: got my line and we can we can do whatever. Gee.

949
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: Appreciate Jack. What about your your bagging segment? Jack, I

950
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: ain't got no begging segment. He already know what time

951
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: it is. That's a wrap. You can find this some

952
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: Showtime Basketball YouTube and all platforms streaming podcast. Oh them

953
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Speaker 1: you did this? Life was all I ever wanted. I'm

954
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: not not yet. I was hoping that you gotta get

955
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: the streets, make some money. Maybe I like us. Let's

956
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: destroy people like him. Buckle up, get Showtime free at

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